The Daily Zeitgeist - Vibes Based Oil Pricing, Chalamet VS Ballet 03.10.26

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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I was reading this thing about, you remember how there was that thing where Trump's like, I'm going to get you some new dress shoes, like to Marco Rubio. Oh, to Rubio. Yeah. And like everyone, like apparently he buys people all these shoes. It's getting like, like, it's like a whole thing now. There's like a whole report about how he like wants all these people to wear floor shime shoes. Hmm. Floor shine.

Yeah, there's like, yeah, that brand floor shime. It's like a Chicago brand. But they're like a main shoe. Like they make dress shoes or whatever. He likes all these people. He likes all these people to wear the oxfords from there. Yeah. And like it's straight up like cult leader, you know, dictator behavior.

These are the Nikes. These are the Heaven's Gate Nikes are these oxfers. I saw a photo of Rubio the other day and he was like kind of side look. And I mean, there was a clear sort of bronzer line on his jaw line for a dude that, I mean, isn't it? What's his background? He's like Cuban or something. right? Yeah.

Crazy. Yeah. And he still got to darken up, you know? Just embrace. The bronzer line is not an accident. That's the point. You got to let dear leader know that you're in it. Yeah.

Oh yeah, bro. You mean it. You're serious. Yeah. Please, please do the right thing. But yeah, they were saying that like people are aware, like once Trump sees you in them, like no one wants to not be seen not wearing them. Right.

Classic cult behavior. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, and with, at least Heaven's Gate had like a cool vibe to what they wore for their Doomsday Colt. You know what I mean? Yeah. The look was kind of perfect.

It was out of this world, some might say. Were they Cortez's? No, it's like this other specific shoe that Nike stopped making after that because people are like, no, everyone's trying to buy the fucking Heaven's Day death shoe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone in my middle school, I believe, had that shoe right up until they stopped selling it. because it was a pretty cool, like, it was people that wanted to pretend they were in a gang. It had, like, kind of a gang affiliation at my school anyway.

And that's strange that a colt was like, that's us too. I mean, well, because it looks like a Cortez, which is like, yeah, like West Coast gangster fashion, the Cortez. But this is, this one's called the Decade, the Nike Decades. And they go for 1,300, like every, every sneaker. Do they really? Yeah, whenever they pop up, people are like, bro, you got the fucking heavens gates, bro. Can you imagine being a sneaker had for cult sneakers? Holy shit.

They're going for 1,300 on eBay, like, not even new. Like, these are, like, they look like my, like, shoes from three years ago. Lightly worn in the late 90s. Don't ask about the provenance of the stress. Very enthusiastic collective. They have a formaldehyde scent to them, but don't worry about it. Damn, you got those Jonestown threes, bro? This is an I-Heart podcast

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That's true. What was that couple? The hills? Is that what the hill? The name of the people with the, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Betty and I'm blowing it. Unremembering their name.

Look, I got a lot of tables, man. but it's a fascinating story of how we arrived at this alien face that is the Stain Hill. Barney and Betty. Yeah. Yeah. Who gave it to us, you know? They were the founders of the gray aliens. I kind of looked like a gray like that too.

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I think it's just because this was the day that Mario first appeared in a little game called Don Quikong. Don Quigong. Yeah. I say like Don Quixote. Don quixong. The first novel, Dong K-Kong. Exactly.

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Hey, I thought it was just all right. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k. Embassies in Bogota. I don't want to go. Here I am stuck in Medellin, boo-hoo. Shout out to no clue for that one where Chad Hanks is stranded in Medellin because he refuses to go to the fucking American Embassy in Bolivia.

And I don't want to go. It's like this big wind up. Like, so I'm stuck here. I don't have my passport. The only way I can do this is if I get on a flight for one hour and just get it easily solved. Yeah. But I don't want to do that, dude. I don't want to solve the problem that's easily solved.

That's crazy when you talk to life like your mom. Yeah. Like, I don't even want to do that. And it's like, what do you fucking think's going to happen then? So like, free me, I guess. My God. He's going to somehow like inexplicably just like catch fire accidentally like in his own like and just be like what the heck happened to me. But they're saying stop drop and roll.

I don't want to stop. Like I'll drop and roll but I don't want to stop at all. Bro. If I'm going to roll, bro, you better have a fucking bag of molly dog. It's not my thing. Anyway, shout out. Is he just sending out videos of of himself? Like he's saying these things.

I don't want to go. Yeah. How old is he now? Like fucking. in his late 30s. Oh my God. Let's just say still, that's his brand.

But I don't want to do that, Dave. I don't want to do that. So like, do that, bro, what the fuck am I supposed to do? Because I don't want to do the thing that would solve my problem. Dude,

my dad should just send Buzz Lightyer over here to fucking save me, dog. It won't. It feels like it was in the last five years that he was complaining that he didn't have a strong male role model in his life as a father. Remember that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? So this is just another thing. No dad ever showed him how to get to the embassy. But he got himself across the world, like a different place. He seems to do that all the time. He's always someone in my boy, actually. So what was that story? Funny story, actually, Dave. So I was in Miami for my boy's birthday. And then I was like, oh, shit. Like my homie is in Medellin. So I hopped over and was kicking it with him. Yeah. Oh, okay. You know, and your boy's like, dude, come through it? a fucking Medell Gene, bro.

And I'm there. That's not a story. That's just, you just decided to go visit someone. Yeah, that's a story of immense privilege. We're like, and I on a whim travel internationally because like my boy said come through. But I didn't have the right passport with me. You know how it is when your dad does some, you know, charity work for Greece and then you incidentally get a Greek passport, but then you get your passports mixed up.

We're just going to Medellin. They kick it with your boy track. or whatever the fuck the guy's name is. Trex. It is Trex. It's got to be Trex. Shor for Val Tracks, dude. He got herpes.

You know what I mean? That's why we call him that. Fucking tracks, dog. I do have to give a shout out to you, Miles, for nailing the Bob Dylan in the Steelers' wheel stuck in the middle with you. Had to. It's one of the few times I can get a right for Bob Dylan. A song that they made Making Fun of Bob Dylan. And then it became their biggest hit by far.

Miles. Yes. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and talented comedian podcaster, artist, who hosted the classic podcast, Professor Blastoff Space Cave, and the current podcast Intercepts. Draw some hilarious comics, stand-up specials, animations. You can all find at www.davidhunsberger.com, which was a smart place to put it all, because that's his name. Please welcome to this show. David Huntsberger!

David Huntsberger.com. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Should just change your name to David Huntsberger.com. I really should. That's cool. I'll be a cool move right now.

Blue Sky lets you, they're not like totally decentralized, but they act like they are. So you can change your C name, which is like that just serves the name. So then you can have it at David Huntsberger.com. So I think I am David Huntsberger

at David. Huntsburgh.com on blue sky as opposed to like at blue sky. It looks so gross. It's too long. Too much. Too much. Whatever. At least there's less Nazis over there.

That's true. Fewer Nazis is all we can ask for. Small price to pay. And you said the WWW, which I mean, that's a cloud bring. WWW. Yeah. People bring that back as like, oh, there's a name for it. The protocol.

But then also now, if you're going to do that, you should probably bring in H-T-T-P-S. S. Right. Make sure it was secure. Yeah. We have a secure connection. Yeah.

Yeah, you got to have that S at the end. So it has the S. I got a lot of you. Didn't know if your website was secure. So I'm glad to hear it is. Glad to hear you doing well. Can I see that certificate now? It's from Letts Encrypt.

I mean, anyone can get it. Okay. It's free. David, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about rising oil prices. We're talking about rising oil prices.

We're talking about Havana syndrome being real, the Pentagon, according to the Pentagon and 60 minutes. They're like, we did it to some rats. So in your face, assholes. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Arnold's being back. It's fantastic. Everybody's coming.

They're trying to reboot Arnold. So we'll talk about that. And we'll talk about the Timothy Salome, ballet, opera. Chalemay v. Opera, beef. that is a controversial. There's probably

a lot of people by this. Consequential story of the week. For people hiding from the regular news, this is a thing that everybody's focusing on.

So we'll talk about that too. A port in any storm. All of that plenty more. But first, David, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, man,

probably HTTPPS. I mean, something to do with coding. Probably something to do with my main search these days. is who owns this? Who makes money on this? Anything that anyone brings up,

I go, who owns that? It's a grocery store, whatever it is. So it's always my search history. It's who owns this? Not all that exciting, but it typically trickles back to like Black Rock,

some sort of private equity. They own everything. They own like Etsy. I think potentially Pinterest is in there. They own the entire Intuit, like, or they have a vested stake in that. So if you look at like... The Intuit Dome, all that stuff?

All that stuff. Yeah, like they've bought into it. So when you're using like Adobe products, like, you know, they got you in that cycle where you have to pay per month where it used to be you could buy the software once. And then like every company, they're like, wait, if we only sell this once,

what are we going to do? We got to sell this every month. And then, so now like final draft, I feel like is even moving over to that a little bit. Yeah. I use this open source software called Beat. Highly recommend it. They're just, I look at who owns stuff

and try to find what's the alternative. And like, can I? So for Beat, they have a page. So then I'm just paying them directly and appreciating. I want the economy to move more that way, more direct as we're all just using stuff and then going, how are they making money? I don't know. I want to be more like direct with this. So it's always who owns it?

I'm team BlackRock personally. But like I appreciate it. I like that you're, you know, you have a side. Appreciate it. Yeah. That's super infuriating. that it all goes back to BlackRock. A huge percentage.

The answer of who owns this is not you. Like now, like, you can't own software, you can't own media. You are renting everything. We're all renting everything all the time from BlackRock from one company. I learned how to make a Linux server just so I, because an SMTP port has become like the most valuable thing in the world. That's what all that substack is really. That's what like MailChimp, all the,

you know, have a more like elegant design for your mailing list. Everything's a mailing list and trying to get everyone's attention beyond social media. But then MailChimp, after a while, was like, hey, if you have more than 250 contacts, we're not going to send your messages. You either have to upgrade or like cut people out. I thought that was a pretty interesting move that like, this shit doesn't work anymore. The button that we would press to send it, we're not going to press it anymore. And as that becomes, hey man, they guess we're all frogs in the water's boiling. I mean, everyone has varying levels of, like, what that feels like.

But a lot of that is real in the sense that when someone turns off that button and you want to hit send, if you don't own it or know how it works, you're just sitting there tapping the button going like, but, but it used to work. Right. So BlackRock was smart to understand that's how it's going to be. And that's where they're great. They're smart. They're doing smart things.

They're stealing all the power away from everybody else. It's like they're just winning. It's like they're all corrows. us in the pen for the slaughter, but doing it real, real elegantly. Yeah. It's a slow play, but it's really effective how it's going. Just like writing about the people.

I'm like, really smart play by Black Rock here, just putting us all in the same corral as we walk off to slaughter. Like, you really have to admire how they've done this, the seamlessness, the frictionlessness of the walls and of the design of this shoot that they're sending us down onto the conveyor belt. We're all the guy from Jurassic Park that looks like, clever girl. Yeah, exactly.

Do have to admire them. What is something you think is underrated? Learning how to do shit, learning how to make things, learning how things work, like DIY things, just taking a second and asking, is there an alternative? We were so used to these big proprietary tech companies. if you're upset with, say, like, how Airbnb spends their money or maybe how one of their former CEOs is as a person

where they contribute to certain inaugurations and so on. If you don't like how they conduct business, when you're traveling somewhere, look and just see, is there an alternative in this city? And so many big cities have, like, a little hometown version of that for rental stays. And so just little things like that of just questioning, just asking, is there an alternative to this? And that stems from who owns this.

think it's the same thing. Yeah, there's like, there's like a similar thing with like on in east, like the east side of LA where people are trying to just be like, hey, this is like kind of like Uber eats, but it's all people that are going to local businesses. Yeah. And like we're paying the people that are going to drop it off. Like it's it's going to cost a little more. But like at least you know you're buying it from a local place, like whatever it is.

And yeah, I think a lot of people are being more obviously like more conscious of it as we just watch the oligarchs do they. thing in our faces. Yeah, well, when they win, and if it's like every four years and people go, oh, dang it, I did that one vote that one time every four years. Like, I think it, on, on some level when people bring up something like, hey, we're going to go to local businesses, everyone hears that and goes, I like that. Yeah.

But implementing it and using it is very different because most ways that people are living their lives, if they had to write it down like a mission statement, it would be a horrible mission statement. Right. They'd just be like, I laxidazically go here and I buy this because it's the most convenient. I guess it helps Black Rock. But, and then, you know, every... I'm also being crushed by society and every turn.

Yeah. I got a lot of tables, man. That's, uh, yeah, the I got a lot of tables. The economy of just everybody's like, fuck, I don't know, man. I got to work really, really hard all the time. Yeah. Yeah. It's too hard to find a ground BNB to compete with the Airbnb, you know?

Remember these, you ever heard of these ground BNBs, the otherwise known as just B&Bs? Well, all these things made it, in theory, so simple and life is still so hard with them. So if you're like, hold on, I'm barely keeping up by, like, ordering a car through this service and getting my food delivered through this one, you want me to now stop and find an alternative to that? I'm barely keeping up as it's the most simplified it's ever been. That's a tricky hill to climb off of if you're sliding down it. Yeah, yeah. And it's almost like it's by design. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So you might as well just be like, wee! We're sliding! I got a limousine for one donut. You see that video of the mountain goats with the cameras on their back, and they're just like jumping down the side of a mountain? Whoa. Pretty fucking cool.

I like that. Jack, I think that one is AI. Is it AI? Yeah. Probably AI. I looked at it and said, this is probably AI. Yeah, that's AI. Yeah, it's AI.

Oh, shoot. Got my hopes. Anyways. Luckily, this show, it's not like we're, Joe Rogan gets called out by Jamie all the time for being AI. And he's like, no, it isn't. You go, yep, that makes sense. I absolutely look like a.

I embarrass myself. I feel foolish. Dave, what's something you think is overrated? AI, I guess would be the first thing. Oh, come on now. I know that's like too big of a thing that's like too ubiquitous and too like that's low-hanging fruit to say that. But I'm so curious when we're going to, I think if you voted for certain

things and then you just have like Ukraine and Gaza and the east wing of the White House and the Epstein files and now at what point are you like it's still going pretty good it's going okay right and I feel like with AI they've sold us on this idea that like it's going to be exponential and if you ever had a Ti-85 calculator and you could put in exponentials and watch them graph it really it goes way up real fast and so right now we're just in this at I don't even know if it's It feels like a plateau in what it can do. Like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fight and we're all supposed to flip out. Oh, wow, I could do this.

It did nothing for me. I don't give a shit about that. That is not impressive. Yeah, when they're like, dude, this is what if Batman fought Thanos? And you're like, first of all, bro, it wouldn't be a fair one. Why the fuck is Batman even getting a hand on Thanos? That's not even how to do you do. I would have been killed at the pitch stage in a human-controlled writer's room.

Yeah. The one thing is that's really interesting is how precariously tied the AI bubble is to the Persian Gulf right now because of all of the tech investment that's happened from the Gulf states like where the U.S. like, let's court some AI investment. And with the straight of Hormuz shutting down, if they're like, this actually might not be the best move for us financially given the war you fucking started over here, that could have insane reverberations to the tech sector in the U.S. and just show him we're all connected. We're all connected. One big village. Yeah, and just like all the, they talked about all the facilities.

They want to, like all these, you know, data centers they want to start deploying over there. And it's like, yeah, it's all built on a bunch of flimsy shit. Yeah.

There was a, there was somebody, I talked to yesterday's episode about, somebody found a children's book at their doctor's office that was like AI generated. And it was just, just like shadow faces in the back of like these like 17 fingers on one hand completely nonsensical like it just it's it's the fact that it's breaking into like children's books

is really fucked up really yeah yeah and I want also think of like that really drove it home for me well I think it's also too like at that age if you like a book that shit might as well be the Bible to you. You believe everything that book showed you, like it's depictions of a pet, like a dog or whatever. You're like, oh, yeah, based on this book I read when I was a kid, you're putting AI hallucinations now for like kids to sort of begin to build their own idea of like media literacy off of. Oh, it's going to be so fucking bad. Like that's not how you draw a face. It's like this. It has to look melted. Like it's looking into the arc of the covenant. Right. So much of the, now if you're, you know, you have little kids, you have a spectrum of like people might have

handed you books from the 70s. You have real current books. And the way art changed, the way you can really feel it come off the page of a human hand drew it. However that was like... Yeah, like, when we moved to where everyone was drawn on like a Waltham tablet, that was a move where now people go, oh, you can't use AI to animate or something. I feel like, but I can use a bunch of Koreans because it's cheap or I can, you know,

I can draw and take away the human element of my pencil going to the paper. So it's all happening on a scale where like on some level, if it's just the next tool, I can get behind that. But if it's the thing that's meant to be all end all, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That I don't, that doesn't check out. It's, and the desperation to, I forget which company just came out. They had their own analysis of what their AI, like what white collar jobs, their AI was about to replace.

And like, so many business outlets are like, wow, this is this company thinks this is the job is going to take. It's like, yeah, of course, to keep its stock price high. Yeah. It has to present itself as being so effective. It's an existence. threat to our employment? Not a great business hook for me personally, but okay. You do.

Yeah, I know. I know. It just, I think we can trust them. I think we're going to get good data from these guys. I've seen enough. I think they know what they're doing. No,

we ran it through our AI algorithms and it says that it's going to work. I don't know, dude, this Miles Dyson guy has a point. I can hear AI proponents being like, yeah, well, it fooled you on that fucking,

mountain goat thing. Yeah. So I guess you're not so smart. Okay, so it's going to replace the job of what then? At that point. Making sick videos. Making you look like an idiot.

Dude, dudes who strap A gopros to goats? Just replace their asses with that video. Next question. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back to talk about these amazing videos of raccoons jumping on a

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We're talking about turning a book into a hit show and what it really takes to bring a story to life. The most important metric for me is do I want to share this book with somebody? That's what creates community and that's the main thesis of our book club and why we started it was just to connect people together. Listen to the bookmarked by Reese's Book Club podcast on the IHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And we've been talking about how the American people, it's kind of sickening that the way the mainstream media covers the American response to the war in Iran is basically like, they're not going to like their oil prices going up.

just like that's the standard there held to. Right. It's just like, I mean, if it costs me money, me no likey. However, other way, if it makes me money, yeah, thumbs up on that Tomahawk going into a children's girls school. We're all on board with that. That's annoying. However, as was easily predictable, oil prices are skyrocketing thanks to the U.S. Israeli war on Iran. They're going up like at an unprecedented level.

Yeah, yeah. I think last time it was high was like at the like outset of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Right. It was like the last time it got this high. And even then it's funny. Well, this time we're in control of sending the prices higher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Equally volatile, equally impossible to trust.

Energy Secretary Chris Wright immediately went Jimmy Carter on that ass and was claimed that this is merely due to fear. perception. That's just like your perception, man. Yeah. Okay. So it's bad that Iran shut down the straight of Hormuz, where the one part where it's deep enough for tankers to get through is so close. You could just throw a rock and explode a ship from the Iranian side. Is the problem that all that stuff you just said, Miles, or is it your response to that? What? I feel like the way you're thinking about it, really. Yeah, really. I don't know, dude. We could just keep the prices up if we wanted to. You sound super negative, dude.

Yeah, that's really like, we sound super negative. We call in the crypto space, we call this fudding, fear, uncertainty and doubt. You're just trying to spread, you're just fudding to get people

like in the bad vibe train with you. I feel like I heard that. Yeah. Yeah, it's all. They're just fudding, bro. It's all just fudding. And we have to check in with each other every morning

to make sure everybody's still on board. Good morning, good morning. Good morning. Are we going down? No, we're going to the moon. Fear and perception. It's like, it's truly the same playbook when you're like, guys, objectively and it's clear to everyone, this is bad.

So the only defense I have is like, you're just showing bad vibes, man. Right. Is there a part of you that thinks, when you think of that group, the people that get up and do that and they're like, they're fine with like Bitcoin, not so great to the environment, the things you can speculate and embed on, like people that made money on, um, Kumani dying, who probably now his son has... I think they weren't going to pay that out, though. I think they said they, they are, one of them were like, yeah, we're not going to pay out all the bets on that one, unfortunately. There's like some like $56 million that was like wagered on that.

Wow. But anyway, sorry. You're going to get robbed by a giant corporation. You might as well do it by one where like literally no one is ever going to feel sorry for you at all. Right, right, right, right. Like, fucking Cali she burns me. Chad Hanks is going to come through.

Yeah. Cali didn't pay out my commandee bet. Oh, my God. So now I'm stranded and Medellin still. And I don't want to solve it. But like I think of it in the sense of like a nihilistic approach to the world where if you've ever been, this happens all the time in Southern California. You're on a freeway and traffic's not so bad. And someone zooms past you in a car where if you have a passenger, you have them look it up.

What was that? And then they go, oh, well, this is like a rare car. They only made 15 of them. It's worth $5 million. dollars. You're like, that's what we just saw crazy. That person might be one of these crypto people that just go, you can bet on what? My mom having a stroke? I'm doing it. They have no feeling. They're so comfortable. I took her out for a drive at my new car. It was going 300 miles per hours. She fucking freaked out. You shouldn't see in her face anyways. I got a whole bundle of hair.

Cleaned up on that one. The whole bundle of hair I burn his incense in the car. So she's like, I smell burning hair. I'm like, you stroking out, mom? Winner, winner. That's a winner. That's a Winner. Got her. Yeah. Call it in. Yeah. I mean, everyone else I think is trying to just, if you look around most neighborhoods,

people want to like take their bins out to the curb, take the kids if they have them to go to a park, go for a hype. People want to live a pretty simple life. And then the people like speculating in that way are like, no, I just, it's all nonsense. I don't care if they blow up a million oil tankers. I just want to like make money and drive a car fast. And have they just said it's absurd to think about this? that it's fixable and they've just gone enough. I think there's that group of people.

There's some people who are truly like in a, bro, it's all about getting yours and fuck everybody else because truly that is what's being reflected back to everyone, like societally, right? Like there is nothing that suggests that's not how everything works. And then you have people, like I feel like, especially with younger people, they're just so, they've become rightfully nihilistic financially.

Yeah. This seems like, you know, our generation is like, go to college. You go to the middle class. Right. You graduate in 2007. Oh, oh. He's starting to feel weirdly specific.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But like, with these kids, it's even fucking worse. You know what I mean? And so for them, they're like, bro, I don't know. I think I just need to get rich somehow instantly. So what are my options? Yeah. Yeah.

It feels very bleak for it to, I mean, we've had a civilization, a society that is completely, you know, driven by whether it was, it hasn't been like overtly and out loud driven by these morals of like, fuck everybody else get yours. But it's been driven by that and people are smart enough to see that that's the case. And children are smart enough to be like, well, yeah, but like my parents are working as though they're going to die if, like, we're all going to die if they stop working. And like there's an immense amount of stress. And so like being raised in that world is going to result in people having this nihilistic view of like how reality operates. Yeah.

Because it is in effect how reality operates in a lot of cases. But yeah. So back to back to oil prices. They are bad. Back to the thing that affects me. He cited emotional reactions and fear that this is a long-term war. And he's like, it is not. It's a temporary movement, which I, again, it's just like Donald Trump has said he won't back down.

Iran has said that they will not back down. What do you? So it's just assuming that like he's full of shit. And it also completely is not acknowledging that Iran or Israel and the United States put, put Iran in a corner with this attack. There is no off ramp based on the way you initiated all of this. Yeah. It's like, oh, so we're fighting for. our lives? Okay. It's not like, oh, here we go. They're trying to do some tit for tad shit.

They're like, oh, no, no, no. Okay. So it's like this now. Not sure what you do because it's going to make the Suez Canal crisis look like a fucking like bank holiday. Yeah. The IDF's, there were IDF strikes on fuel depots over the, over the weekend. That prompted the US to respond with literally WTF. Right. Israeli official said the U.S. message to Israel was WTF, as in like, why are you blowing up oil? That's really fucking with our ability to like sell this to our people. Yeah, you know, for us, all we can do is tell people how much gasoline costs. And from there, they can excuse genocide, homicides, whatever, all the sides.

But yeah, we got to keep that low. It's just, oh, man, because like, yeah, again, the street of Hormuz, the Suez Canal at the it was 10% of the global oil flowing through there. With the Hormuz, it's 20% of the global world, the global oil supply moving through there. So the shocks that are about to occur across markets. And the liquid natural gas, huge percentage goes through there. Luckily, we export a lot of that here from the States. And that's what they say.

Right, exactly. And you get these fucking weird, we're actually a net export. So we're doing in a pretty good position. That's actually, you'll get. I think that's probably maybe why they're like, maybe we just frame all of this as gas prices, because we're not going to win off of a national security argument that it's necessary in any way.

So it's like, guys, don't worry, don't worry, don't worry, where your gas prices aren't going to go up. That's all you're worried about, right? The gas prices, they're going to go down. And I think what's very frightening, or I think just reinforces our idea that, they're just improvising this entire war that Trump had a thing like an interview with the new york post and this he's like he says he's got a plan to bring the cost of oil down he's a quote oh good

i have this is what this is how you know we're fucking i was so scared there for a second wait to you hear what he said jack the president said quote i have a plan for everything okay okay i have a plan for everything you'll be very happy that's what they said in response to there's a 65 percent spike in the pre-war price of oil. What are you going to do it? I got a plan for everything, except how to start a war, end a war, bring prices down. Really, I just have a plan. Is he going with the, it's a surprise? Like, what is it? Do you guys, do you guys have stuff in your life where you, like, you know as a behavior? Like, I wish I didn't do that, whether it's procrastination. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Everyone, everyone has like an ADHD thing. No, Dave, I don't have that at all.

I'm actually a perfected life. You guys seem like you got your act together. Oh, my God. Oh, no. So everyone has that. Baby, my mortal enemy and my best friend. I would say it's almost, it's universal. Like everyone has a thing like that.

But maybe when you're a malignant narcissist, you never go, God, I wish I could stop saying I have frameworks of a whatever. And in a couple weeks, I'm going to lay it out there. You know, like you get in a car and you go, I wish I'd stop saying that. I've probably said it. a thousand times. And I never, I never come through. I don't have the plan.

It seems like you externalize all negative things so that like it's always a problem being caused by somebody else. Yeah. Therefore, you are just in a constant like battle with other people and there's never a moment of introspection. No. No. Did you see that Tony Robbins documentary years ago?

Mm-mm. There's a similarity there. And I think that's why like people that want to be like these. I'm excelling at life, and I'd never do anything wrong. Like, they spend $1,500 a day to go to these three-day workshops with Tony Robbins to learn how to, like, treated like shit, right? You get yelled at, and you learn coming out of it how to always just like turn every obstacle into the next. No, that's your problem. No, I'm the best.

I'm great. And even him himself, Tony Robbins, like, he was doing cold plunges and like any time he, you can see him having negative thoughts that every human has and then going, no, no, no, I'm the best. I'm just like, what's shutting out of it? Let's grow this skull bigger by another few inches. Come on, like, it really feels like that's what he was doing.

We're just like, never ever let anything in. It's always deflect and move it and you're the best and power through it. And I think that's why so many people really respond to what's happening is they're like, this dude never. It doesn't matter what's happening is always like, I'm the best. I'm doing great.

I'm going forward. And it seems like a sickness. Well, of course, because I think part of that too, especially with right wingers is the concept of vulnerability is totally foreign. There is no such thing as vulnerability for anything relating to us or themselves. They're not vulnerable emotionally.

We're not vulnerable as a nation in any way. Like to talk about to admit that there's any kind of vulnerability on any level, that allows the humanity to creep in a little bit. And so if you just cauterize that part of your soul and everything like, I'm not fucking vulnerable, man. I'm just cleaning up a bunch of shit all the time, man. Yeah, great leadership. But then even in that same interview with Trump,

they were like, hey, man, what about like all the airport security checkpoint delays? Because, you know, DHS got its funding pulled because, you know, the fucking fascist goons out there with ice. And he said, it's already been addressed. It's been addressed. This is according to the post, Trump said, without providing additional detail on the airport delays, we're moving people out rapidly, rapidly, rapidly.

You're going to be very happy. It's very, yeah. It's like, what? It's a surprise, but it's a good one. You're going to love it. It does. Fucking out of his mind. That Tony Robbins thing is so interesting.

It really does feel like, I don't think they're wrong that that is the best way to, like, there's a point during the rise, like Trump's first rise to power where just everything he did made him more of a focus, more headlines, just, you know, earned media or whatever the fuck people call it. And it's just like, oh, this thing. that we've thought of for years as a pathological personality disorder is actually the model

for winning at the video game of like modern America. Like it is. It shouldn't be but like that's it's really a fucked system where like that is you know it's one thing to be like look how like evil and like how much bad he's doing

but you know. You reap what you sewed man. That's what we put into the ground and this is what the fuck comes out of it. Yeah, yeah. But you see quotes like Eisenhower saying, you know, every bomber made is a children that doesn't get, or a child that doesn't get adequate books or learning.

There's a part of you, like, when you read that, you're like, an American president said that? You almost like can't believe it. Like there was a period where that was not only common, but like acceptable to say. It's so weird. Yeah, yeah. It were, yeah. It's been

I think for the past 20 to 30 years, just pure mask off capitalism, like not really mask off because they still had like nice messaging and commercials and stuff. Yeah, they still had for corporate pride month and corporate black history month. The results were still just like, yeah, we're going to take what we can. We're going to invade other countries for reasons having only to do with like our own goals and like what we're going to kill millions of people. And if you're going to live. live in this country, you're going to have to, like, put it out of your mind. And that's, yeah, now we're at a place where it's just like people are coming of age in that

world. It's, you know, not a healthy environment to, I don't, I don't think it's irrevocable. And I still think that people understand there's, like, a sickness to it. But I don't know. Like, it makes sense to me that Tony Robbins is able to just be like, pay me a, $1,500 and I'm going to tell you how to like optimize yourself for this malignant form of capitalism that we exist in and like redefine everything that like therapists would tell you as like a problem as like actually an attribute like how to propel yourself forward you know sounds like

you're not confronting your vulnerabilities no no I don't need to don't need to just got to keep moving, you know. Yeah. But I think the group sourcing food from local businesses and when you go to local festivals, when you get out and see the people and realize there are way more people that believe in ethics and that are normal. For sure. Like, it's almost like we've been talked out of this idea that like, don't do business among friends. That's the worst thing you can do. That's not really true. It's only that like it comes with that risk that one day you get a phone call and go, what, let me call them. And you call your friend and go,

did we get an evaluation and you signed off on it, but you left me off, that's the price of doing business. Right. Like you would hear that phrase and go, oh, yeah, it is business. My friend would just sell me out. Maybe that happens.

But I think overwhelmingly, people start businesses and they go okay if like you have someone to check you to go. Right. That's not what we do here. And then you have a good business, a functioning business. Yeah, or the mission of your business

isn't to make as much money as possible. You're like, I can support myself. and actually feed other people or provide a service to other people. And it just feels like an even exchange. And this is a great way for me to live and continue my life. Yeah. Yeah, don't shit where you eat, boys.

That's all I got to say. Don't shit where you eat. I don't really know what that means, but it's a thing that I say. And then when people say, oh, I shit where I ate, I say, tries to do a business, man. My dad always said, don't talk where you fuck. Got that shit tatted, man. So I got a Lambo.

With tears in your eyes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Walk silently with tears in your eyes and clenched fists through a shopping mall. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about Arnold.

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And we're back. We're back. And Arnold Schwarzenegger has been quite, been a little quiet for a while. I feel like he's been in no less than three Terminator reboots. And every time they're like, but this one's got Arnold, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has that happened a bunch of times, or am I just imagining that? I feel like they've tried it a couple times. For what, I mean, there's always,

there's always talk of other Arnold things happening. This is the, like, apparently he was just at the Arnold Sports Festival, which I did not realize that was a thing. Did you know this? I actually missed the Olympics because I was watching the Arnold Sports Festival. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm like, what the fuck is the,

it's just like annual thing. Arnold's there all the time. And anyway, at this event, he gave this quote that had like all the movie blogs. You're like, what the fuck? Because he's saying there's about to be potentially three reboots of films he's been in Predator, Commando, and Conan. And people are like, what the fuck he said they did an additional Predator and the director Dan Tractenberg has been doing a great job of that. Now he wants me to be in the next Predator. We've talked about it.

And as a matter of fact, Fox Studios has kind of real. Rediscovered Arnold. What? They've rediscovered. They've come to me and said, we want you to do Predator. We've just got a script for you to do Commando 2. Commando 2. Then he goes on.

He says that there's also a possible Conan sequel, quote, they just hired a fantastic writer-director who did Tom Cruise's last four movies. They just hired him, this is Christopher McCoy, to write and direct King Conan. Okay. Okay. My first thing is like, this also feels like the most 20-20. 26 shit of like someone passed it saying like I still got it and we need to pour more money onto this like you want to see me back in predator right you want to see me back in Conan or commando two at my age yes this is exactly what you want uh I don't know Arnold I don't know I don't

know I think you know just you did what you did you did your thing good just yeah the very idea that his entire stardom is based on was just like the invulnerability of the human body and like this just pure, like, just a human body as machine. Like he's, he's not wrong that like, we're definitely in a fascist moment and there are like a lot of fascist vibes and like the original Conan and, you know, stuff like that. But it doesn't really work, doesn't quite work the same when you're just like kind of a older version of that thing.

Right, to that point. It's just sort of like the idea of how indestructible his body felt when this guy is 78 years old right now. But did you see the final? Hopefully it was the final. Indiana Jones, where Harrison Ford's like 80 plus. No, I couldn't bring myself to watch it. Oh, man. They had some ingredients there.

Had they not once again used Nazis? Like he pulled it off as the old guy in a way where like, this could have been a fun final, like hang up the house. hat. We did it everybody. And I feel like they were taking a chance on that. What if? Like, what if people want to see this because nostalgia, they miss it, all the things that are currently happening? But then there's another side that is like, I think it was called Ben.

It was a movie about a chimp or something that was like killing everybody. It came out like a few months ago. I was just re- Chimp, wasn't it? Just called Chim. Primate. Primate. Okay.

And I think his name is Ben. Something's wrong with Ben. Oh, yeah. listening to these two movie reviewers talk about it, and they're like, something interesting happened in the theater. The movie's almost so bad that the crowd is cheering for the chimp to kill everybody. And it becomes this fun, like everyone's bonding, which I think was a unique thing. If you're that studio or if you're that director, like, I figured it out.

This is why people like to go and be in the theater. It's if you can be there going, and everyone collectively is like, all right, you still got it, Arnold. You're 78. You got it, buddy. And remembering their childhood and laughing. Like, ah, this was different when I was a kid. Because if you go back and watch a lot of those movies, they're just a different experience.

They were playing to the theater where there's almost like a wink, wink to the camera. And like the score goes up when the hero comes on stage. And I think maybe there's an element to try to get back to that. Is that what's going on? But I guess it's like such a misread, right? Because it's like for all the people who aren't 78, we're not going, yeah, you still got it. You keep doing it, Mitch McConnell.

Yeah, you keep going Joe Biden. and you got this. It's like, get the fuck out of the fucking way. Yeah. Like stop rehashing bullshit. We're not fucking growing by just allowing this generation of people

to fucking never end. Like, holy shit. That's just my feeling. And I'm sorry I got loud there, but just get the fuck out of the way, please. I'm scared,

Miles. Yet, he came back in Terminator Salvation, Terminator Genesis, Terminator Dark Fate, each time in a, like, for some,

reason they've inexplicably, like, made a Terminator that ages. Yeah. For some reason. And then, like, retired to a cabin in that last one. Like, wasn't he living a simple life, like, alone? You're like, what the fuck? Like, he has needs and interests. And were you saying that, like, people are, like, there's a predator, a killer of

killers is an animated one, right? Yeah. Apparently, that's where there's room for the return of Dutch in that one, because there's, like a deleted scene where all of the predators have like they've like kidnapped like these people these like characters from the past films they're suspended animation as trophies and then apparently they're going to have them do like a gladiator fight and that's why they could be reanimated and in one of these scenes you see a tank one has harrigan in it see danny glover's character and another one has dutch in it and they're like so there you go and i'm like but is he is dutch old as fuck in this just

suspended animation tank? Is he's 78 years old when he comes out? Yeah, you got it. That's how it works. Take him out of suspended animation. They start aging like forever young Mel Gibson. Yeah, right. Or you take him out.

You're like, oh, fuck, put him back, bro. They start aging rapidly when you take him out of the goo. Fuck, all right. That went all wrong. Yeah. So you're going to watch it because you watched the last one. Like you're disappointed they're going to make it, but it seems like you're going to watch it.

I didn't see. No, no, this is I've read all wrong. Oh, okay. This is reported. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm woefully behind on Predator films. I haven't seen a Terminator since Terminator 3 came out. And I was like, oh, they've seen all the Terminators.

You've seen them all? I've seen all the Terminators. And I rocked them all. Seen a million Terminator. And I rocked them all. Parenthetical got drunk and was thrown out of the theater. When I go back to who owns this and or like, what did they see? Do you talk to anyone starting any kind of tech company startup that's looking to,

We want to pair creators with. What they're really saying is we want to make 5 or 10% of every person because everyone feels like they're a fucking creator. Everyone wants attention and wants cameras on them. So then I look at that like, oh, right. They are trying to monetize this need that humans have to get attention and or share whatever you'd call it, entertainment, content, et cetera. But like, I started asking myself, does this species and has it always needed this level of amusement? that we always need to be. And if you stop yourself and go, like,

I don't need to see predator or whatever. I don't need to see Commando six or something. Predator, killer of killers. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, if I just go like, oh, I don't need that amusement. I can, I'd rather just sit in a chair. I'd rather just look out at trees or something.

As I've started doing that, it's made me, like, way more specific about the sort of, I'm going to take on this book. I'm not going to, like, scroll mindlessly. I'm going to have something in mind and then, like, go get that movie and watch it. It's totally different. It's like going back to the 90s or something,

but it is, I think, helpful mentally. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, that sounds great, man. That sounds fucking wonderful. Try it out, guys. Jack got a predator, killer of killers playing on his phone off screen. He's watching it right now simultaneously.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, that sounds good, man. Oh, shit. Yeah, Arnold actually looks pretty good, guys. Holy shit. The fucking... Derry. I just picture a predator up there, man.

Yeah. Think about what a predator can do in that tree. And finally, if Frazier Crane existed, he'd be pissed at Timothy Shalame this week. The Oscar nominee went viral over the weekend for claiming that no one cares about ballet or opera anymore, sort of. Yeah. He's like discussing with Matthew McConaughey in costume, like in disguise? I don't know. Matthew McConaughey looking like he's like method for a role as like a 1930s Irish cabbie.

Or yeah, or like definitely going method. Yeah, some maybe like a Sinn Fane role. He's like, yeah, we've got to be popping up. I don't know. But he, he's almost a distraction, him being there. Because like they'll just cut away. He's like, like responding to Timothy Shalman. Sometimes you go, ooh.

Yeah, what was that part? Anyway, we'll get to the clip because this part. He's just like inexplicably going, like making sounds while he's talking. It's basically Shalemay's just, he's making the point that, and far be it from me, to defend Kylie Jenner's boyfriend here, but it does just seem like he's making the point. He's his own guy. He's his own, I don't know. For me, he's always going to be Kylie Jenner.

Kylie's man. It seems like he's making the point, like I don't want film. to go to the place where it's it's a thing that you have to patronize. You have to, like, get people to vote and be like, hey, come out to the ballet because it's dying. Yeah. And he's like, drawing a line between that and film and like the way now. I am, I'm really happy that Hoppers made money this weekend. I have no reason to really care other than that it's a movie in theaters.

like, you know, Pixar, which is a subsidiary of Disney, a company that is probably pretty evil in many ways, I'm like rooting for them to have a hit because I'm just like, I don't want movies to go away. The thing, that clip was first just it was just lopped off or just started off with Shalman going, I don't want to be like working in ballet or opera things where people are like, hey, let's keep this thing alive. And people were like, why is you shitting on it? And that's when like the full context clip is him sort of like lamenting like sort of the ebb and flow of the popularity of films. But there's just this part because before he gets to that quote, there's just this one moment where I don't, I still don't know what the fuck Matthew McCona is groaning about. Yeah. I want to speak for people that are here that are younger than me where people desire are desiring things that are more patient and that pull you in. I just saw another article that says, Gen Z is a bigger movie going audience than a millennial audience, you know.

I feel like a fucking grandpa saying that. No, but point B. Like, I guess maybe he was agreeing with the take of like feeling ancient because he was like, mm-hmm. Oh, maybe he's saying, hey, like, hey, you can't be acting like you're feeling old because, dude, I'm over here 25 years older. Is that even him saying, it's just like, wait? I don't know.

I feel like a fucking grandpa saying that. No. No. Sounds like he's saying Craig. Craig. Craig. Craig. Cut that out, Craig. We're talking about from Ice Cube's character and Friday? From Friday?

Craig, Craig, Craig. But then, yeah, this is the part where he gets to the sort of like what he's sort of getting at in terms of like film and ballet and all that. I want to be entertaining quickly. I'm really right in the middle, Matthew, because I admire people and I've done it myself to go on a talk show. I go, hey, we got to keep movie theaters alive. You know, we got to keep this genre alive. And another part of me feels like if people want to see. see it like Barbie, like Oppenheimer, they're going to go see it and go out of their way to

be loud and proud about it. And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though like no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there. I just lost 14 cents in viewership. That's probably the part that was where. I was like, well, hold on, motherfucker. You don't got it. You could have been like, yeah, I'm not starting to say. Just lost 14 cents from these broke ass motherfuckers. I just lost less than a court, what a quarter's worth in revenue. That's when you're like, okay, motherfuckers, just shut the fuck up.

But yeah, I think, if anything, he's probably taking more shots at his own family with that quote, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. His mom is a fan, like a dancer. She worked. Let me see. Yeah, like in the New York. Well, here's a clip of him talking about his family

in the New York City ballet. This interview you had mentioned, you danced. Or your sister liked to talk. I grew up backstage at the New York City Ballet. My grandmother danced in New York City. Valley, my mother dance in New York City Valley, my sister danced in New York City Valley. I grew up dreaming big backstage at the Coke Theater in New York. That's kind of dystopian, the Coke Theater.

The Coke, K-O-C-H theater. Dude, my grandmother was a dancer. My mother's a dancer. My sister fucking danced in the New York City Ballet. All of them fucking irrelevant now. You know what I mean? And that's the point I'm making. All respect to Uncle Charlie Coke, you know, who gave them that opportunity.

I had a poet on my podcast, The Space Cave. And I've talked to poets since then and brought this thing up where he was like, you know, there's a new kind of camaraderie in poetry because people think of it as really erudite or snobby, like aristocratic. But in reality, there's no wealthy poets. So everyone's doing it purely because they love it. And I think they could relate to that idea of like, yeah, poetry kind of we got left behind a little bit. Right.

And yet, like, that's my way of agree with you. Sorry. Appreciate that. And then you go see it. And you, like, I don't know that poetry is the thing for me, but, like, I did the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. And it used to be just the festival. And it was the opera and the ballet coming through.

And then comedians, magicians, other people are like, we're artists too? And they started the fringe. And then outside of the fringe, there's even, like, a really vibrant street performer, you know, buskers hanging out. And that's probably the most interesting part of the whole thing, like the most punk rock. Oh, you guys have to wait in line. get a venue, fuck that. I'm just going to do it right here. And then they blow everyone's mind and grab the biggest crowds and they get, you know, people tip them and all that. And yet,

but the biggest crowds are still waiting to see maybe because it's like a destination thing. The highest ticket prices are to go see like what dance troupe has brought in their performance for that year or the plays. So it's still like they are sophisticated. It just, it's in that sphere of like right now, any of us could go to the Hollywood Bowl and that feels like a sophisticated place to be. But I don't think any of us like go to the opera. But if we went there, it'd be like, tickets are how much? And they only see it's just like a totally different.

It's nuts. It's so expensive. But yeah, more than anything, like, don't take shots at other fucking artists. Yeah. We're all in this together. Yeah. Like, seriously. Like, the whole point, anyone who has an artistic craft they engage in, they know how

life giving it is. And it's not relevant how popular it is. You do it because you've intersected with a way of expressing yourself that gives you life. So to be like, I don't want to be like these other motherfuckers. Like, no, if anything, figure out how to keep all these boats up floating, like floating because we're living in an era where they're trying to fucking grind out the idea of human artistry at every single corner. So Timothy, come on, man. You should be taken up for all the artists out there. So making us all simultaneously saying,

Weep, you know, in agreements, in agreement. I make this little scripted podcast. And I got to imagine it's significantly less popular than poetry even, or like for sure the ballet or the opera. And if I heard him saying that about me, about like the art form that I'm currently doing, like, yeah, I might as well be making scripted podcast. And then found out all, every one of my family did script,

I'd be like, what the fuck, man? Yeah, he's just kind of, he looks like more and more like an insufferable dickhead. I feel like, I just hated the rap shit. That thing when he was in the SD kid video, I was like, what the fuck are you doing, Timothy Shalomay? Your fucking rapping ass. Dude, he's good, man. He's actually my favorite rapper. So that is the one thing.

Why is it spelled that way? It is just Timothy, right? Yeah, he's French. That's why. Okay. Yeah. Don't be so American about it where you're like, why is you spelled like that? Why you spell it wrong?

We do it with a why around here, boy. That's right. Never seen that. Never seen that before. He might be France like Jim Carrey. All right. Dave, do you have any feelings on the Havana syndrome story? The last I remember reading about it was maybe like five years ago when they had to like the CIA, the building.

They were examining it and saying something, something weird is happening. here there's like a frequency and it reminded me of when nicola Tesla had his before like his his like shop burned down but prior he developed this little device he would set on like a girder and tune to a frequency and then it would make like the whole building start shaking and so the police had to come they thought there was an earthquake like what is happening here and so i remember just thinking now like oh there's some frequency they've tapped into that like makes human brains start to like unravel. Right.

But I had not heard of it since them, but there have been the stuff with the rats now, I guess, is pretty interesting. Yeah. It's, so I was kind of firmly on the, I feel like this is psychosomatic CIA thing. And like that ended up being where the CIA landed on it. But now. Where we get all our takes from. What's that?

I said where we get all our takes from. That should be when I first was like, oh, no. I was wrong. No, you're right. Okay, we'd love to have you over to Langley to come check out some stuff. Oh, cool, cool. Talk about it on your little podcast. But yeah, I mean, there's like some compelling articles about how even if they,

the people who suffered the attacks had been physically injured, like the injuries would have healed faster than, like, they were still experiencing symptoms like, you know. Years after. Years later. Whereas, like, if they had been hit by something physically, they would have recovered sooner. So it's probably, you know. Everything is a combination of like mental and physical. But there's this news story from 60 minutes where they're saying,

completely uncompromised network. We might add also. CBS completely compromised. They're saying that undercover U.S. agents obtained a mysterious Russian weapon that causes Havana syndrome like brain injuries in rats and sheep is what they're saying. They purchased the miniaturized microwave device for $15 million and have been testing it out on rats and sheep. Purchased from a complex Russian criminal network. The thing is when this was when this news was first happening, like when you asked scientists how this was possible, they'd be like, it's not.

Yeah. Like you can't do this. So something odd. Still a little skeptical. Just the description of it was purchased from a complex. Russian criminal network for about $15 million in a Pentagon funded operation by undercover Department of Homeland Security agents. I'm like, okay, so Donald Trump paid $15 million for a Russian microwave? Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. What's going on here? Well, what really?

There are two 60 Minutes producers who have a Havana syndrome book coming out later this year. But the gap, the gap seems to be widening between people who are like, I don't know. I think there's like maybe some psychosomatic stuff happening here and the people who are like, we're actually, we're going zero dark 30 on this thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's real. We bought it from a guy in Russia for 15 million.

It just sounds so dumb. Like, what? Yeah, do we like low-key got that shit for like a fucking deal, dog? 15 million. But I do like it's the idea that like there's some technological kind of thing that established scientists aren't aware of. Yeah. That they figured out in like the Russian underground.

is pretty intriguing. So I'm paying attention. We're back in, baby. I'm back, baby. Jack, let's try and get our own, do it? 15 mil? We can crowdsource that. And if it's just like a placebo thing,

what a beauty, you just show up with a briefcase, and it is just some wires and things you put together in an old fax machine. Dial 6, 6-8-1, then hit start, get in a bunker. Get the fuck out, bro. You got 10 minutes. Yeah. Just bluff people into brain injuries.

Yeah. You're feeling that, huh, bro? You're probably feeling that right now, right, dog? Yeah, bro. Yeah, you're feeling it. Bluff rats into brain injuries? Yeah. Fanning yourself with the money.

Yeah. David Huntsberger is such a pleasure having you, as always on the day. Yeah, great to be here, guys. Good to see you guys. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? David Huntsburger.com. If you want to join an open source newsletter, I send it out a couple times a year. I'm not very good at it.

but it exists, and a male chimp can't corrupt that. Then I have a Mastodon account, the Fediverse. They truly decentralized social platform of the future. When all the big servers go down, they'll just be me talking to no one there. There's no engagement. Mastodon is not really a hive like old Twitter used to be, but fewer Nazis and truly decentralized.

So there's no big oligarch player that can come in and swoop in and buy it. I'm there at David Huntsberger, and I'm at Blue Sky at David Huntsburgh.com and then the Intercepts podcast, intercepts plural, is at the, you can find that at David Huntsberger.com,

but it also is at the Inlessabyss.org. And if people wanted to join or anything, I'll do a TDZ, enter TDZ 50. I'll do a membership pass if you want to get like episodes that are in stereo, they come out a week early,

there's some bonus stuff, all the classics. Because I didn't trust, Patreon. I think it's DC funded. And so anything that's that, I'm who owns this, I'm like, I learned how to, like, build my own membership website. So it's really... Do you need to get that offer code approved by marketing

and the good people at BlackRock? What's going on? I just do it in there on my own. I've got a whole little system I built. It's an experiment in lunacy, but it also, like, in terms of a mission statement, I think is kind of fascinating to, like, try to operate outside the bounds of all the

big technology because all of stand-up comedy goes through Mark Zuckerberg, I couldn't fucking live with that. So it's the least punk rock thing I've ever heard of. So I'm out there in the woods now on Macedon with my 10 followers. Mark Marion asked me who my guys are, Zuckerberg's on that list. Who are you guys? Hey, who are you guys? Zuckerberg number one. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, off the top of my head. I forgot this was one of the things. I recently revisited a movie that came out probably 10 years ago called The Kings of Summer. It's pretty great. I don't know if it feels like that was one that people missed,

but really into movies with like that base the conflict on something other than he's an arms dealer operating outside of the, you know, like not a lot of guns, not a lot of violence, just like people out in nature, people like are like perfect days. Did you see that? So goddamn great. Oh, perfect days is just a masterpiece. movies that are just still and like the drama just kind of has something to do with I guess a typical kind of conflicts you'd run into in life which of which there are a trillion

I mean it's complicated to be a human so Kings of Summer and Perfect Days pretty great Perfect Days yeah not not a perfect day which appears to be a movie this one's set in Japan it's probably two years old now yeah this one appears Never mind. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, talking shit about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé,

talking shit about the English Premier League on A&F Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Check out the new show. Shout out everybody subscribing, reviewing. Please continue to do so to spread the word out there. A couple posts I like. First one is from at Toilin 20, he posted. I just learned I have to pay to join

a running club. What are you going to do if I just start running behind you guys? It's a great question. Clever, clever, clever. You can do that with city tours too. I don't recommend it, but I've done that. It's definitely way more obvious.

I remember, I like maybe 10 years ago I was in New Orleans and there was like a haunted New Orleans street tour. I was just going to bring this up and they kicked a person out when I was there doing it. I was trying to do Jack's idea and they're like, uh-uh. and they like sent him away. Well, it started because we were just like walking on the same parts of Bourbon Street or, you know, in the French quarter.

And then everyone was like, what's this big group talking about? And it was clearly a tour and they're like, oh. And then like we just caught like a glimpse of it like a nugget. And then we went ahead of them. And then they caught up to us and they did it again. We're like, hold on guys. We might have hacked the matrix here as long as we're ahead of them. It looks a little better.

Also true of the running group. It looks like the running group is chasing you. Yeah. Good motivation. Good motivation. Oh, God. God. And then one more was this post I saw on Instagram. It says POV your class is watching a documentary on slavery. I think all students who went to, you know, mixed schools with white students around when you're watching slavery.

This video is so funny because it's like this black kid watching and all the white kids are just keep turning around to look at you. Avery has existed in many different forms through history. The reduction of another human being to the status of property. The guy cracked a dance because the looks are always like, damn, you know about this? Wow, you're my conduit to the Black experience. Are you? Is this okay?

That was from Poppy Mex underscore on Instagram. I really like this footage, this amazing. footage of wild mountain goats with cameras attached. Fucking beasts. It's AI, man. AI generated content, according to X. It's been established, man. That's just like your opinion, man.

I liked this synesthetic posted a picture behind the scenes of 101 Dalmatians, 1961, and it has, I think, Walt Disney drawing two, maybe not Walt Disney, but drawing two Dalmatians. Noah Garfunkel posted. Okay, I drew two Dalmatians. Are we set? Brother, not even close. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O'B, the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian.

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So this is like a super trippy, heavy rock duo from New Zealand, New Zealand. Is it a Earth tongue? They're just super, they're dope. It's heavy, man. This track's called Demon Cam. So check this one out from Earth Tongue. It's Demon Cam. It just feels, I don't know.

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