The Daily Zeitgeist - Vice Is The Worst, Tight Little Frog Butts Are The Best 7.4.18

Episode Date: July 4, 2018

In this special 4th of July episode, Jack and Miles are joined by Super Producer Anna and Super Producer Nick to talk what they personally find overrated and underrated. Happy 4th of July!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No A.K.A. for you, and I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Okay, do you have the pitch pipe? E-flat. Okay. Yes, A.K.A. It's the 4th of July, so just be glad we put out an episode today because we're about to go to barbecues. You're welcome. I've got my British red coat outfit on.

And we are also thrilled to be joined by super producers Ana Hosnier and Nick Stumpf. What's up, guys? We'll just say hi together, I guess. Hey, it's Anna. Is that passive aggressive? I guess. Hey, it's Anna. Is that passive aggressive? I guess you're just introducing us together. You couldn't be more laid back, literally, right now.

I couldn't figure out how to fix this chair. It's almost offensive. You're nearly horizontal. Hey, I hear you, man. I'm fully checked in. I just want to tell you, I did that to the chair accidentally and I cannot put it back. I don't know how to put it back. He looks like the next two of us. Wow.

Are you going to be able to stay awake for this, buddy? You think you're going to make it through? Thanks for writing everything down on that paper towel, man. He's got a folded piece of, I wish I hadn't dropped it in the sink. It's really hard.

It's hard to read. What's this? I think it says, uh, all right. So you guys know the deal, you know, the format,

uh, we do it at the top of every show with our guest and we're just going to let you know some things we think are over and underrated. Do you guys have any myths? Myths? Nah. Nah. All right. I mean, we're living in a giganticrated. Do you guys have any myths? Myths? Nah. Nah. I mean, we're living in a gigantic myth, I think, every day.

Oh, myth. That this is a second-rate podcast. Exactly. That is not true. We're a third-rate podcast. Actually, I have a myth. God isn't going to fix anything. Okay.

Sorry, I just read a book by the Duck Dynasty patriarch, Phil Robertson. And boy, does that guy really think God's going to fix everything. Let me just tell you. By God, does he mean women? No, he means actual God. He's also that guy that's like, look, I'm not judging you for being gay. God's judging you, and I just happen to be the man who reports what God says. Don't shoot the messenger.

Okay. So I think we have our first underrated is this book by the Duck Dynasty guy. No. All right. Jack, what's something that's underrated? Oh, my God. I thought you would never ask. So I've been listening to a little bit of this podcast called Behind the Bastards,

which is on our network hosted by one robert evans from cracked and uh i i think the bubble from the bubble episode of 30 rock is responsible for many of history's greatest atrocities okay uh so if you've seen the bubble episode of 30 rockets where john ham is a handsome doctor who, it turns out, has just had everybody say yes to him about everything because of how handsome he is. And so he exists in this bubble where he just is incredibly confident in himself and every decision that he makes. And he cooks for Liz Lemon this thing he calls orange chicken. And it's just, he pours orange Gatorade on chicken and it's just terrible.

Anyways. So Robert Evans has noticed that many of history's greatest monsters were really handsome when they were younger. Like Stalin was. My God. He looks a lot like Zayn Malik actually. they were younger like Stalin was my god and then it's a run for his money he looks a lot like Zayn Malik actually Castro Che Guevara a lot of dudes who ended up killing a lot of people were really handsome when they were growing

up and I think it might be a thing where they just like never had anybody say no to them especially at that time time when white men ruled society. Che Guevara isn't white, though. Yeah, okay. So not Che Guevara. Or Fidel. Right. But I guess in their realm.

I mean, they weren't the black. They were like black Hispanics. They were the ruling class. Yeah. Yeah, Muammar Gaddafi. Muammar Gaddafi was really handsome. That million-dollar smile. Muammar. Sofi was really handsome. That million dollar smile. Yeah. Muammar.

So, I don't know. I think there's something to that idea that these just real handsome dudes are just used to having everybody just do whatever they say. I like to say, get gas lit by your own privilege. Right. Exactly. You're living in a whole other construct. Right.

We were talking about big dick energy last week while you were out of the country miles we knew we couldn't talk about it when you were around thank you you're an ally to all people ed uh and yeah i like we talked about how there's dark big dick energy and i think this is a great example of it it's just like you are just used to having everybody agree with everything you say and you you just start, yeah, gaslighting yourself into thinking everything you say is brilliant. And then you end up killing everybody. I think I'm one of those people. Yeah.

Anna, what's something that's underrated? Oh, thank you so much for asking. Underrated? Well, I'm going to come in strong because I didn't know this was a branded episode. But my own podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous. There you go. But that's just an aside. Really what I think is underrated is talking about your medical problems.

You just mean in general, out loud? Yeah, I feel like there's such a stigma. You're not allowed to be sick or people are either like, ew, get away from me, you're going to get me sick, or they're like, oh, no. It should just be like, yeah, like, that hurt. Yeah, you got, I got to go to the doctor for this. Oh, okay, cool.

Yeah, yeah. Take care of yourself. Exactly. It should be that easy. Well, if you come in saying you're sick, I don't think it's the fault of a person to be like, oh, shit. Like, if you're like, I'm sick.

I'm sick. Yeah, like, yo, get the fuck away from me, you contagion. I mean, like, sick mean like sick like oh yeah having kidney failure you know how that goes oh yeah kidney failure you would be in the hospital

but you know what I mean like that kind of medical problems were just they're you know yeah let people know you know cause wouldn't you rather know

that I was sick versus like in two weeks so I just stopped showing up to the office and you're like I didn't know she was sick I like dude I think she's lazy as shit

where the fuck she been she was sick. I like, dude, I think she's lazy as shit. I feel like women are way better at being open and honest about illness and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Men are. I don't say shit. I know. I do tell you guys my medical problem. I list off my medical problems every morning when I come in.

I know. You do. I have to listen to a 318 point inspection on yourself. And apparently all of our reactions were inappropriate. Right. And you guys. I know. They have to listen. Do a 318 point inspection on yourself. And apparently all of our reactions were inappropriate. Right. And you guys. I'm sorry for dry heaving.

I wasn't right. Yeah, because I fucking lied to my doctor. Because I'm like, I'm not telling this motherfucker what's wrong with me. Why are you even going to a doctor?

Wouldn't you like to know? So my mom thinks I'm taking care of myself. Yeah. You know, men are terrible at taking care of themselves. They're just going to tell you something's wrong. That's all.

Yeah. So I guess I'll listen to your underrated. I have ED. Okay? I'm coming out with it. Hey, Nick Stumpf. Yes. What's something that you think is underrated?

Miles, you and I have talked about this, and it's maybe appropriate to bring up because Drake just dropped a record, but I always thought that old Craig David was underrated. Oh, yeah. Craig David. Craig David. Love Craig David. Craig David's record, but I always thought that old Craig David was underrated. Oh, yeah, Craig David. Craig David's record. Love Craig David. Born to do it. He's invented this sort of same singing vibe over beats and stuff. Yeah, and like garage-y English dance

music that is now just running the world. I don't think he gets the credit that he's due. Craig David. That's amazing. As you say that, so relaxed. I don't think he gets the credit that he's due. Craig David. As you say that, so relaxed. I'm almost fully lying. I feel like it's therapy or something. I'm like, huh, and who else do you feel was unjustly...

What does that album make you feel about yourself? Also, if you guys want to see Craig David come back with an amazing flip of Fill Me In, search BBC Radio with Corrupt FM and Craig David. At the end of it, he comes in and does another version of Fill Me In and starts rapping. It's pretty good. And also he toured with that, like just a nylon guitar player. That's how they would play shows, which was pretty awesome too.

Oh, really? Yeah, it was just him and a guitar player. Like a lot of during that time. Oh yeah, because Fill Me In is a lot of... Yeah, but they would just do the two of them and it was pretty rad did you see them no I would never

I would never just get drunk and sob over Craig David live YouTube videos that reminds me of my favorite concert Dave Matthews

and Tim Reynolds oh shit what the fuck alright moving on Miles what's something you think is underrated?

Okay, so my first one, sharing sandwiches. Is underrated. Now, let me tell you, I like sandwiches. And sometimes I go to places and I want to try like four different sandwiches. The real wave is to agree with the other person and say, yo, you get this sandwich. I'm going to get this sandwich. We'll split the halves. Best of both worlds.

Not the album of Jay-Z and R. Kelly, but best of both worlds in the sandwich context. I feel like in the beginning, I was not really up for that because I felt like it wasn't enough food. But it's about variety. So begin sharing your sandwiches. You know what I mean? Not a really heavy one. This guy over here is talking about the bubble episode and evil people. And I'm over here like sharing sandwiches.

So this is something that is underrated. Yeah, I here like sharing sandwiches so this is something that is under it yeah i feel like sharing sandwiches is a bad rap generally people are hating a lot i feel like people don't embrace it like of course you're gonna go in i and shout out to my friend kevin when we work together we will go to capriati subs and he would want to try the bobby maybe i want a philly cheesesteak but i also maybe was down for the Bobby, and we just say, yo, let's half it up. All right. Fine, Miles. I'm sorry I didn't share my sandwich with you today.

Jesus Christ. No, and I told you that fried chicken sandwich looked really good, and you were over there eating it like Smeagol in the corner. Well, I'm glad I didn't make Kevin my underrated, because that was going to be mine. I got a food underrated. Okay, do it. Do it.

Generic Mexican food in a restaurant. Like not a taco truck, not an upscale Mexican restaurant, but just a straight up regular old Mexican restaurant. Like Ernie's type place. There's a place in my neighborhood called Chico's. It is just the best thing. The way they do like rice and beans when you don't have to, there's nothing proprietary about it.

There's no twist. It's just- Nondescript. Nondescript. Yeah. Regular old Mexican food. Straight's no twist. It's just... Nondescript. Nondescript. Yeah. Regular old Mexican food. Straight down the middle. Right up the pie hole.

Uh-huh. What do you get? You just get rice and beans? I got two chicken, one cheese enchiladas with the sweet sauce, green sauce. Oh, enchilada, sweet sauce, yes. And it's just the best thing in the world. It's like Coca-Cola or something. It's exactly dialed in.

Wow. You're a regular old Anthony Bourdain. Also, you were saying Coca-Cola, underrated, right? Underrated. Just a great company. Yeah, as a company. I think I've heard of this stuff. Now, would you say, Nick, that this is based on the fact that you now live in Los Angeles,

which has generally good Mexican food? Or do you think Mexican food, like just down the middle Mexican restaurants, are somewhat unfuck-uppable? Oh, no, you can fuck up Mexican fuck up i think you can fuck it up but it's i think it's just not something people talk enough about how good thank you bring awareness general mexican like just vague mexican food i feel like if you go like maybe texas and california you can get away with like just sort of or and in illinois too there's a good mexican food but like i've had mexican food in like oregon like driving through there and i was like whoa like you know sort of very generic no like like how'd y'all fuck this up right right right yeah it's possible to do but there is like a school of doing it where if people do it well it's really great and people like to talk about

oh i only go to this off-market version right that off-market version yeah i like the straight up the pie hole yeah and just i i would say maybe overrated is like artisanal like how important it is to like find the like hole in the wall taco place or whatever i feel like that's a big deal in los angeles is like well this one truck that actually never stops moving uh but it has the best tacos literally It's literally grown roots in the ground. You have to jump on the back when it drives by and then fight another person if they're already on it. But their al pastor is amazing. Tacos Leo.

Food truck culture. Mm-hmm. Overrated. Jack, what's something that's underrated? Underrated? Again. We just skipped over Super Producer Anna Hosnier. Anna, what's something that's underrated?

She likes to be asked twice. Yeah. You know, I'm going to come hard hitting. Oh, shit. Tevas. Oh. Now. Underrated.

Underrated. I have not actually purchased a pair yet, but I have been eyeing up here for a very long time. Tevas are. Since we talked about it. The sandals with the strap that goes around your heel. Yes. And around the forefoot. I just wanted to make sure you knew that. Yeah. I don't know what a Teva is, but you know what?

Strong underrated. No, they just look so comfortable and I've tried my friends on. They just, you know, they're back, baby. And now they have these platform heel Tevas. Look, honey. Like a big chunk? You look cute. Yeah. Walk around with your platform heels. Unfortunately, I can't do that because I trip over a lot of things.

But I will find a flat-footed one soon, and I'll be out and about in my Tevas. Yeah, so if anybody has a Teva Connect, hit Anna up. Oh, please. You know what I mean? I went to the website. It said 10% off if you join the email list. Mm-hmm. I'm still waiting for the email with 10% off.

Never came through. Check your spam folder. You know what I did? I did. So I still have one in the cart just waiting, hoping one day a 10% off comes on anyway. And that's how we know you're humble and you're grounded. You're not out here buying full-priced Tevas,

like some 1%ers. How much are Tevas? They can range from like $30 to $60. Oh, Jesus. $300 or $400. Oh, Jesus. $300 or $400. Oh, so they're cheap? I'm not out here buying Chacos. I mean, you did turn me on to the fact that Tevas,

like I had always associated them with Crocs, like that level of comfort and also like coolness. What's wrong with Crocs? Nothing. Do people hate on Crocs? No, I was just saying they're really cool. Ever since my uncle put me onto them,

I was like, yes, these are really comfortable if you're on your feet all day. Don't look at my feet right now. I have the knockoff version gates. They're really uncomfortable. They're really uncomfortable. Gators. They're really uncomfortable.

Oh, the ones you get at the dollar store? Yeah. But yeah, you were saying that they're like kind of making a fashion. Yeah, they're back, baby. Yeah, well, a lot of that 90s stuff is coming back around again. Splash. Jack, what's underrated? I was going to say the peacefulness of being in other countries.

I feel like when I traveled, and I haven't been to another country in a while. Ever. I've never been to one, but they look so nice. They look cool. But I remember I studied abroad for a semester, and just coming back to America, everything seemed really fast, and there was just to America, everything seemed like really fast. And like, there was just like a higher stakes to everything than like, just,

just standing in line, like at a restaurant, people were just like more stressed out and like meaner to each other than like they were in other countries. And I mean, yeah, even just going to, you know,

Portugal for a week or Mexico for a week or, you know, I definitely notice something and it's not I don't know. I don't necessarily know what it is but you kind of had a take on this coming back from Europe this week. It's all cultural.

The US is too high stakes capitalism. That's just the vibe of America. You know what I mean? It's because we're all constipated. We don't drink enough water or Metamucil. Like you say, like that's just the vibe of America. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then we're all constipated. Yes, we are all kind of, we don't drink enough water or Metamucil, but I think,

yeah, like you say, sometimes the, of the vibe of a country can go very underrated because people just think about the monuments or things visually that are there without taking for into account the energy of a place. So like, yeah,

when I was in Denmark, it was, everyone's really laid back and, you know, not going broke from going to the hospital or school will i guess do that to people so yeah the vibes are very very nice also when i was in ghana like africa you can tell when things move slower there's something really restorative about that too coming from like the states or whatever and when i was in ghana my

god everyone's just like so happy and just like it's yeah it's just it's so different and like you you have to kind of remember that it's important to take care of your energy when i was out of the country for a long time a few summers ago i came back i remember like landing at kennedy airport and just feeling like it's sort of an adolescent country it's like a young you feel the sort of young adolescent energy in the united states like right how young the country is that's exactly true yeah It's like a young, you feel this sort of young adolescent energy in the United States, like how young the country is. That's exactly true. Yeah.

It's like, because everything just has so much more history. There's like a cultural memory almost to like, you know, almost the stakes feel higher here

because we have a short memory. Yeah. Everything's like life and death. We think the world is going to end in the next couple years, usually.

So. Yeah. We're still kind of like scrambling to figure it out and put it all together. Denmark, they've been around forever. Older cultures, they just have grown up. They figured out what to worry about and what not to worry about and where to put the priorities. That's how I feel about when I go visit Berlin.

It's very nice. It's very nice. Everyone's chilling. You can drink. You can just go buy your beer, go sit at the park and just chill. And yeah, like you said, it feels more mature. Wow. You're a polyglot, huh?

Mature. Mature. Wow. Yeah, and I also think just things like the vibe or just the ambient energy of a place as hippie and LA as that sounds. I read this book incognito that I think about that's about how the mind works. And basically it's like 95% of your mind is like all the, of the processes in your mind are happening in a part of your brain that you don't

have access to. So like consciousness is like 5%. and then consciousness is just like receiving these things that are bubbling up from underneath that you like just aren't aware of. And I think that like that stuff affects you way more than you might realize. Yeah, definitely. Anything else you guys wanted to call? Oh yes.

My other one, Fruitopia, the drink. I don't know why the fuck they got rid of it in this country i love fruitopia and i used to love it in high school they got rid of it in this country and i'm really upset about it they still actually have it in canada and australia australia fucking arth might um but yes they got rid of it out here and i'm'm really upset about it. And I'm going to continue to be upset about it. One interesting fact about it.

Fruitopia? Fruitopia was a- It was Coca-Cola Snapple. Yeah, exactly. It was a poisonous fruit drink made of about 10% juice that had like this super trippy kaleidoscopic, you know, psychedelic imagery to be like mango. Like what were the things like raspberry psychic lemonade or like peaceable peach uh curious mango uh and i've i was addicted to it because i think high fructose corn syrup

still running through my veins but one thing i do want to talk about uh was on the simpsons on the episode where lisa joins mensa and she meets stephen Hawking he's like I thought this was a utopia but I see now that it is more like a fruitopia and the thing was that the computer that Stephen Hawking used to speak it didn't have fruitopia and like its vocabulary so they had to like phonetically reprogram his shit just to get that line out in the Simpsons so fruitopia even tripped up Stephen Hawking right and I would just like people to know that. And that's why they should bring it back. Wait, Stephen Hawking played himself? Yes, he did. You'd think

that with something like that people would just cheat and be like, yeah, it's Stephen Hawking. No, they really had him. But it's such a funny product because it was back at a time when people were first waking up to the fact that we were just putting garbage in our bodies.

But it was just a contest between them and Snapple, who could give off the best vibes of healthiness and natural ingredients. But they were both just sugar water, essentially, with food coloring and then fruit on the label. Yeah. Well, I mean, Snapple had their facts and the Snapple lady,

so that made it feel a little more safe. Snapple definitely won. It seems like that's where Fruitopia went, is just got swallowed by Snapple. The dinosaurs. Yeah. Jack, what is something that's overrated? Ah, fuck.

Vice, I would say, is overrated as an institution. Did Vice pay you to write that? Right. That sounds like some shit to me. Exactly Vice pay you to write that? Right. That sounds like some shit to me. Exactly. We're whack as fuck. Fuck you. Just say fuck them.

Why are you reading this, you dipshit? Fuck off. That's how sick we are. Buy this Hewlett-Packard printer. I'll do my motherboard. So reading the New York Magazine article about Vice and the history and how Shane Smith like just directly cashed in on all these young, talented, hardworking people over the past like 15, 20 years. It's just like they directly converted the idealism and creativity of an entire generation into a cynical cash grab. And it's worse than like really any company that I can think of because of how well it

worked. Right. Like how, I don't know. And it's probably not worse than any company I could think of. It's just the company that did it. It's worse than ExxonMobil. Right. It's the company that did it the most, I don't know, shadily in our time, I feel like.

It's like. Well, because it was one of those things where, like, it was cool before when it was just a magazine. And it used to be that thing, like, when you had cool friends who had advice. You're like, yo, what is this? And like, dude, it's all about, like, Russian heroin addicts. Right, yeah, because they used to put out that giant book that people would get. And people would have it on their coffee tables in collage.

Oh, wow. And you would see it and you'd be like oh that's so cool it's things that i don't really look at normally right right right and then the and then you the when they went to youtube that's when it really started ramping up their like social cachet where people like yo vice is fucking sick dude and then yeah then they just sort of exploited people to just really be like yeah you're gonna work for nothing why because this is vice and you think that's cool right we're not gonna fucking compensate you you know fairly or at all in some instances the 22 22 22 rule which is hire 22 year olds work them 22 hours a day and pay them 22 grand a year and yeah there's just all sorts of toxic masculinity behind the scenes and like just weird

creepy shit where men would hit on like these young people who are working for them and uh you know one of their co-founders went on to found a neo-nazi gang that uh the proud boys that's probably gonna murder someone what do they call themselves though they're like we're not all right they're they really try and like act like they're something other than a borderline white nationalist group. I don't know. I know that a key part of their ethos is that they don't masturbate, which is weird. Oh, cool.

All right, Gavin. Yep. Gavin. Real quick side note. Cynical Cash Grab would be a great game show. Cynical Cash Grab? That would be a good game show. Or a punk band.

My overrated is How Good of a Game Show Cynical Cash Grab. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Anna, what's something that's overrated? I'm going to come in hard with this one for 4th of July. I'm going to have to say Celebrating. Oh, no. Celebrating is overrated. I'm just so over celebrating.

Yeah. That shows you how blessed you are. You become jaded about celebrating. Glass of wine. Let's not rent mansions to throw parties in for 4th of July. Wait, you don't be able to rent mansions? For my friend who keeps insistinging I come to her mansion party and throw down $10.

See, I feel like you go to I feel like you go to more No. No, thank you. This is coming from somebody who is like, yeah, and my friends and I

just rented a boat for the weekend and we're out on the bay drinking wine all weekend. That is not true. That is not who I am. But that's what you were telling me. You were like,

yo, we just It was for someone's birthday. Yeah. Well, I am. But that's what you were telling me. You were like, yo, we just. It was for someone's birthday. Yeah. Well, what I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with that. A duffy boat. All I'm trying to say is that you are a connoisseur of how to celebrate. And you're like, people just overdo it. No, I just, look, I'm a homebody.

I don't like leaving my house. I don't like anyone calling me. I don't like being interacted with. Okay. I don't like anyone looking me in the eye. Yeah. Wow. No I was just trying

to make this not about how you hate people. I just think like 4th of July and like New Year's like that kind of like aggressive of like we have

to celebrate this or what really are we? That kills me. It's like no I don't want to. You could just act like it's fucking Wednesday. Yeah.

Tomorrow is going to be my day off. I just want to spend it as if my butt is attached to another couch. Can we come in late on Thursday? Or else I'm going to be fucking... We're going to have a weird episode tomorrow. I'm going to erase my underrated 4th of July because if we don't celebrate this, what are we?

Never mind about that. Yeah, but also people being like, we're going to rent this mansion. Yeah. And you got to pay to go throw down. Yeah, that sounds fun. It's like if you're trying to make other people pay, then maybe look at your own self and see maybe you shouldn't have rented a mansion. Yeah, like are you that caught up by consumer culture?

I'm just going to push back. I'm going to head push back. I know. 10 bucks for renting a mansion. It was between 10. I'll go. It was between drop 10 to 50.. You're not sleeping there, though. It was between drop ten to fifty.

So what? You own Woodland Hills? Ten dollars. It gives a shit. Fine, Nick. You can go in my place. Money bag stump over here. Ten bucks.

I'll pay for you. Fuck it. Well, it was between ten to fifty, and I was like, oh, now there's a scale based on how much I make. You want to see some like, they want to see my salary card. They want to see what I'm doing and then be like, well, based on the amount of money you make per year. Do you get more access for 50? I don't know.

Different rooms? I get snacks. There's levels to it. Now, do they have loyalty cards where you go to multiple mansion parties and then you get a free mansion party at the end? Just do what we used to do. You go, you have a friend whose parents work at the bank, find out where the foreclosed homes are, and then hop the a free mansion party at the end. Just do what we used to do. You have a friend whose parents work at the bank, find out where the foreclosed homes are, and then hop the fence.

Squat party. Squat party. Squatty potty. Nick? Yes? What's on this? Overrated, yes. I got drugs.

Drugs and drug culture. Dude. Fuck you, dude. All about that. All about that. Also the World Cup and traveling to Europe oh shit yeah

I don't know I think that's I think it's gotten a little I think it's time I think it's time to call it what do you mean drugs are over yeah

like doing them no just the concept of them the culture like talking about it you know now the weed has been legalized

yeah yeah like the legal weed I don't know that's what I wrote too, overrated drug stories. Like, we get it, man. We get it. I think it's gotten too...

Wait, you're the person who got the wildest stories. I'm not... I need to stop talking about them. Your drug stories are great. Yeah, my drug stories are always low-key problematic. My drug stories

are actually the best. I don't talk about them anymore because sometimes I feel like when I get in a conversation and someone starts telling them and then there's like a pause for you to be like, that's tight. And then I just don't talk about them anymore because sometimes I feel like when I get in a conversation and someone starts telling them and then there's like a pause for you to be like that's tight and then I just don't say anything yes and

yeah you know yeah I guess yeah there are times when I man like in my younger days I used to sport anyway yes I oh I wish you had gone into a half hour honestly dude so Anyway, yes, I... Oh, I wish you had gone into a half-hour drug story.

Yo, so sweet. It's me. Honestly, dude, so... Well, sometimes I just want to respond like, yeah, you know, our brains are a little less developed than they could be. And then people don't like that. Whoa. What do you mean?

I just feel like there's a certain amount of drugs I've done and people will be... And then when I feel like I talk about it, people are like, wow, you don't seem fried. And I'm like, dude, you don't fucking know what my day to day is. You don't know how fucked up I've made myself thinking I was so cool doing all these drugs. Because the list of medical problems I bring in every morning to this group of dudes. You're going to do a 318 point check.

Yeah, it ain't worth it. Doctors are like, why are your teeth like that? And you don't want to fucking answer that question. You're like, these ain't even teeth, doctor. These are chicklets. That's why my breath's so minty. We talked last week when both of you guys were out about this Johnny Depp Rolling Stone article. I don't know if you read it.

I mean, I heard that episode. It was just super depressing. And also, he talked all the time about his boy Hunter S. Thompson and like all the drugs they did together. And I was just thinking back like, man, when I got out of college, I thought Hunter S. Thompson was so fucking cool. And like now I'm just like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The whole thing's kind of been like demystified.

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Miles, what's something that's overrated, man? Nick's takes. Whack, dude. Overrated. Myspace. Overrated, man. Nick's takes. Whack, dude. Overrated.

Myspace. Overrated. Nice. What else I got? Oh, you know, honestly, like late night shows, taking Trump to task is getting a little worn out for me because they're not doing, they're not communicating to people the danger. We're like the clownification of him it's funny in the beginning and we do that too right but i feel like we also try and like express our deep concerns about this

administration right and i feel like a few of the shows are kind of like in that area where it's like ha ha ha when it's it should be like ha ha fuck no though for for real. Like, we can't just sort of stand to kind of laugh at how dumb or inept he is as a president. Like, I think really, when you have a platform that big, you should also be really sort of informing people, too, about, like, that it's dangerous. So, yeah, the whole, like, you know, I think eventually it was going to get worn out.

You know what I mean? Like, and i think we all thought i think at least everything like comedy like a lot of comedians even talk it's like yeah it's like whatever everyone's got like trump material but it's not right it's not interesting anymore because now it's like we've gone past speculating about how bad it could be or whatever to like oh no now we're looking at things like another conservative supreme court justice and like you know really fucking draconian immigration laws and things like that.

Yeah, it's there's something that's just so inherently toothless about that format generally, like because Stephen Colbert used to be able to talk about this shit and like have some of the context and the consequences built into it but like now that he's switched to doing a late night show it just feels yeah like they're the jokes are written specifically they're just burns yeah they're that's exactly burned them they're just burns yeah like i think desus and marrow like do a better job of expressing the complete just darkness of the situation even though they're like also they're laughing but yeah but they're like men of color and their life experience kind of informs like right why they're sort of like nihilistic kind of like right yeah there's nihilism yeah

and like you just would never see that like i think i think conan in the early days had a little nihilism built in but he's like i don't even know if he necessarily has that anymore. He's going to once a week now, isn't he? Is he really? I think that's the next step for Conan. He should have never took Jay Leno's spot anyway. All right. Overrated that Jay Leno spot.

Yeah. What else? What else? I live off of avocado toast on the weekends. Homemade, though. Homemade avocado toast. You just mash up a fucking avocado, salt, pepper, and lemon juice, and toast. It's the cheapest thing that you can possibly make for yourself really, really easily.

Water soup. Water soup. Right. But it's not quite as filling as water soup. It keeps you feeling light. Do you have avocados growing? Do you have your own avocados? We don't grow our own avocados.

So you're not like Soren. No, Soren's got a huge avocado tree. I steal him. He doesn't know. I told him on Twitter. He doesn't know. I take his. I know where he lives.

You just go into his avocado. Yeah, I know when he's at work. This just became a shorthand from the Generation X and the Baby Boomer generation to be like, well, these millennials and their avocado toast. And at some point that just became like fancy ass. Like that's all they care about. And like they're like spending their money on avocado toast. And it's like not expensive. And it's just healthy.

I know the best avocado toast, $46. It's so good. Oh, God. Oh, hell yeah. You are not helping right now. They serve it out of a fucking Hermes Birkenback. Jack, have you ever tried the cumin on the avocado toast? No, and I will take that down

right now. That's some good stuff. It's funny, I was at my last gig when we would do more like we'd have out of town crews come through for video shoots and stuff. I remember the director was staying at the beverly hills hotel and they're like oh let's talk about the shoot and like we'll grab breakfast at the hotel or whatever the fucking avocado toast there was 28 or 26 and i was like yo this is fucking dumb that is offensive and i will have it because you're paying but i'll fuck that was it good no it was just literally straight up

avocado toast but because it was the hotel and this idea like there's this like glamour it is fucking and whatever it's everywhere though even in europe it's all over the place now really yep avocado toast it's a good thing to feed your kids too i have a good underrated that's not good was that an overrated um i mean under an overrated. Okay. Indie cred. Indie cred. I like that one. It is just, what are we doing these days? Right.

You know? What's an example? Give an example of something that's got indie cred. I can't because I know a few people if I start naming names, they'll come from my indie cred. Okay. Oh, shit. I'm just kidding. But you said it was overrated.

Well, like the- I can't lose that. Like the Noah Bomb Box and the Greta Gerwigs. I mean, you can see it in TV commercials. Every car commercial is an Instagram filter and looks like an IndieCred. Adorable movie. IndieCred doesn't exist anymore because festival culture kind of killed the IndieCred because now it's like everything has to be indie to get to a festival

because these giant films, like, you can't just go straight from making a movie straight to theater. Like, it has to go through festival. But, like, that culture is blown up so much that you're like, well, you're not really indie anymore. Oh, I was even talking about, like, music festivals. Any car commercial, it's like a bunch of people going to Coachella Fashion. And that's related to the drug culture thing.

Like, it's all the same kind of, you know. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? that's kind of what i was guys before we get to some more over and underrated we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.

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What do you need? An overrated. An overrated, sir. Okay. Ring out your paper towel. I got movies. Movies. Jesus Christ.

Movies are overrated? Movies are overrated, yes. Okay. They're not, generally a movie is not that great. It's true. That's true? It is not that great it's true that's true okay it is look at 10 movies it's true how many of them are good really and it's considered to be this massive cultural thing and they're just not that good but isn't you can say that about music or anything that's like subjective you could say that about anything we subject but movies i think

have an outsized place in culture based on because it's a movie right yeah it's like oh it's a movie it's just not i guess it's true because it takes so much money yeah to to create an actual feature film that would be in a theater so therefore you it like you'd think well all this money it can't be bad it's a big event but it's not actually that good like when you get down to what it is as a piece of art... Because you can make music broke as fuck. You can make art broke as fuck. But you can make a weird indie arthouse movie kind of broke. But also the way it's evolved to such a point where they're just not making very many good movies anymore for whatever reason.

Because they started focusing on like really expensive yeah you know i i feel like the studios got too smart for their own good almost that they moneyballed themselves well i know at a certain point the people who were in development roles at the studios were slowly replaced with people from marketing right because it was like well hold on like these these guys know what's to make money now. Versus old school development people or their directors or people who had an actual creative stake in things. It'd be like, oh, this is a good idea. We like this. Versus, how can we turn this fucking emoji into a fucking event?

I feel like the only thing that makes movies are Marvel. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of that. And there's a lot of like, you know, somebody forgot to hire a good writer. That happens a lot. They do everything but get a good story and a good like well-written thing. What's a good movie to you that just came out recently? I mean, that's the problem.

I don't know. I have a lot of faith in the future of documentaries because of like just the sheer amount of raw material that we're generating on a daily basis as human beings. Anybody could have an incredible documentary made about them at this point. That is the stuff that I got the most excited about recently to watch was definitely like Wild Wild Country or something. Right.

That I thought was pretty interesting, but I don't know. I haven't seen a movie where I was like, wow, that was just so great. Right. Like that is, I thought was pretty interesting, but like, I don't know. Yeah. I haven't seen a movie where I was like, wow, that was just so great as a lasting piece of art in a, in a while. Have you seen cutthroat Island? Well,

my man buckle up. Well, you're about to, cause I just wrote it. Have you announced that you're in the year 1997 yet? Or no, no, that's just implied.

Well, I, I mean, that brings me to my next uh overrated not having ed oh that's overrated not having ed yeah no i can see that it's kind of a confusing double negative well underage having me uh well i mean look at hemingway's career yeah uh no one actual overrated have the flat sheet in a bed. I agree. I don't like it. No need.

I move around too much when I sleep. That shit always ends up at my feet, bunched up. I just need the fucking blanket. I don't know what the fuck this other shit is. Also, tucking the shit, like when you get a hotel bed and they tuck the fucking shit out of the bed. You're a leg outer? Leg out. I'm all leg out. Tim Legler. I need leg out. I like being enveloped in there.

So the flat sheet is not the one that goes over the The fitted sheet goes over the mattress and the flat is just that tissue paper that goes in between you and the blanket. The comfort. It's like you're a present. Yours is made of tissue paper. Yes,

it is. You always come in with just wet tissue paper sticking to your body. Well, that's cause I, anyways, on the floor of Dodger stadium bathroom. Yeah. I mean,

that's, that's like a thing that I always just felt that, Oh, you know what else? Just a overrated extra fucking pillows that people just decorative fucking pillows on the bed get them shits off don't even

get me started am I right ladies that sketch is underrated oh yeah Molly Shannon as a stand up comedian don't get me started don't even

get me started am I right ladies that was funny cause we came in we like all had a memory of that sketch she's still good

she's in that divorce show which is not the greatest show in the world, but she's very good. My ex has been. My ex. First season was great. Was it? Divorce.

What's the name of the woman who created that show, who also did the other show? Sharon? She did Catastrophe. Catastrophe is incredible. Oh, really? Catastrophe is great. Oh, so good. No, no, I know Catastrophe is great.

I didn't know Sharon. I forget her name. It's like we know her. Oh, Sharon did that? Oh, Cher? Oh, yeah. My No, no, I know Catastrophe is Great. I didn't know Sharon. I forget her name. It's like we know her. Oh, Sharon did that? Oh, Cher? Oh, yeah. Sharon's the funniest thing. Sharon Horgan.

Sharon Horgan. Freaking Horgan? Oh, yeah, mine? Actually, you know what? Underrated Thomas Hayden Church in Divorce. So good. Thomas Hayden Church in general is so good. So funny.

He's a very funny man. I'm all tapped out for overrateds. What about you, Jack? Your knowledge slash perception of yourself. I already touched on that a little bit, but you're the worst person to judge yourself, whether it's what you look like or your personality.

We're our worst critics. Or you think you are better at certain things than you are like we tend to give ourselves more credit for being like good people in some respects like morality but uh so we give ourselves too much credit there but then we're like too critical of ourselves when it comes to other things. Right. So yeah. Ask a stranger, go to therapy. Ask a stranger.

Hey, do I look hot? Yeah. Instead of looking into a mirror, just ask somebody. I look like shit, right? Put something on the internet and you'll,

you'll find out. Oh my God. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. The internet was just confirmed. I knew it. Average it.

Yeah. And that's the truth. Um, I haven't overrated. Yeah. Rick and Morty. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. just confirmed. I knew it. Average it. Yeah, that's the truth. I haven't overrated. Yeah? Rick and Morty. Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding, just kidding. That was a fake.

Our podcast was just canceled. You're making it hot for somebody. You're making it hot for somebody else. I was trying to find the most upsetting overrated I could possibly say. I don't really think it's overrated. I'm so sorry. Joe Rogan. It's completely perfectly rated.

Perfectly rated. Joe Rogan is also rated. Well, wait till they do that Kanye episode. If that happens. What's the Kanye episode? Because Kanye was like, Rick and Morty's my favorite show. And then wasn't Justin Roiland on Twitter like, yo, great. Let's do something. And then Kanye responded like,

great. I was like, oh shit. That will be interesting. Either they're going gonna make the best episode or it'll be the worst episode yeah so we'll see overrated I'd say do you have one yeah I have one

said no one ever by least everything in the world hey said no one ever though canceled said no one ever wait who are you around that's saying that? You see it everywhere. You see some cute quote and it'll be like, dash, no one ever.

And it just drives me crazy. Oh, man. Did your three-year-old recently get into memes? Yeah. Said no one ever. Your daughter is saying that to you. She's like, okay, dad. It's a matter of time.

I respect you, father. Said i respect you father said no one ever burn i'm three love no one ever happy father's day love no one ever i think two technologies that are underrated in terms of the impact they're gonna have on our future are like ambient computing like alexa i mean people kind of know that now but just watching my son interact with alexa is insane like he's obsessed with it and i feel like yeah who's two and he's like that's all he does all day is shout out oh really so are you gonna just lose the nanny and just having a look yeah totally totally well yeah they got nanny mode oh nice and also crisper which I don't know enough

about to speak knowledgeably about but they can in the refrigerator yeah the crisper in the refrigerator they can edit

our jeans so they can edit our jeans if you want a boot cut like they can do like a copy control

alt F whatever they can do like a copy control F whatever. They can do a universal replace. I was just getting the hotkeys wrong for universal replace. Open Apple Q? Open Apple? But yeah, they can fix a lot of problems.

So that's going to be weird. Can't you already sort of opt for some stuff? Not really, no. Not in humans yet, I don't think. Then this doctor scammed me. Can I use your phone? Nick's like,

overrated having a phone. Oh, man. Nick's overrateds are the best. Last overrated for me, the idea that things can't get worse. There's the frog boiling analogy that people make sometimes, but I don't know. I just read somebody on Twitter do a whole thread about having grown up in South Africa and being a student of South African history. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

They were talking about how the National Party, we just associate South Africa with like a racist white government. And they had 37% of the vote in the early 20th century. 37% of the vote in the early 20th century and then rural votes were given like slightly heavier representation in Parliament which yeah almost like a country I've heard of in the modern day and it was like a glitch that they exploited and people didn't take them seriously and they just kept waiting for things to go back to normal and you i i just frequently hear people say ah things well as if things could get any worse and i think it's just we we oftentimes can't imagine how they're going to get worse but uh they can yeah they they can um so what is the frog boiling analogy it's that uh

when you just put a frog in like room temp water and then turn the heat on like the water gets warmer and warmer slowly and they don't realize they're being boiled alive yeah you know when you're cooking a frog up right i don't know how we use that you know the frog boiling analogy people must have been eating frogs that's why they're like oh my man france yeah but you don't know why we use that. You know, the frog boiling analogy. People must have been eating frogs. That's why. People still eat frogs. Yeah, but you don't boil them, right? Don't you?

I don't know what you're doing. Do you guys ever have fried frog legs? Yeah, I've had the frog legs. Their butts are so cute, though. They do have tight little butts. They got like, yeah, they're like, hey, what's up? You got little tight little asses. Yeah, little tight little ass.

You ever see that? Disgusting. Oh, I remember seeing one and being like, that is my like fit spo, like fit inspiration. Oh my God. Did you see that frog's ass? I mean goals. It's like a cute little, it's a tight ass. It's got some like.

Gluteus minimus. Yeah. Some like strong legs. Like I was like, oh girl. I did eat it. Oh, that's why, yeah. When I was like, hey, come with me to this aquarium real quick. I got some fish food.

You're like, I actually am not allowed in there. They got frogs in there. It's a misunderstanding with the local police. It's something. Guys, this was fun. Yeah. Underrated how much fun this was. Yes.

No, it was great having you guys on. Okay, I got to go. I'm trying to go to a barbecue. Okay. No, fuck you guys. I hate this. Yeah, yeah, me too. Yes, we recorded this on 4th of July.

Hey, look at those fireworks up there. Whoa. Wow. Wow. Wow, Uncle Sam. Those babies really can't move across the sky. Uncle Sam's here. Uncle Sam came by.

Like he's Santa Claus. Oh, Uncle Sam rode on his, flew across on his eagle. Well, enjoy, be safe, drink a lot of water. Water. Don't watch movies. Yeah, don't watch movies. They're bad. Fuck drugs.

Drink a lot of Fruitopia, share a sandwich. And use your Alexa and CRISPR. And tell everyone right as soon as you come into contact with them about all your medical problems. All your medical history. And make sure you make plans to leave the country on this 4th of July. And Google tight-ass little frog ass. Oh, yeah. Look at those frog asses.

That's a little redundant. Okay, let me Google tight-ass little frog ass. Well, Nick, Ana, it's been lovely having you. Where can people find you, follow you? I don't do any of that. Okay. Unoverrated. Social media.

You can follow me in my house, I guess. No. You can follow me on Twitter at Ana Hosnier, A-N-N-A-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H. You can follow my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous, on the HowStuffWorks network. We have fun.

Enjoy us. We're underrated for the time being. Yeah. All right. Miles, any patriotic music that you want to ride out on? National Anthem as sung by... Oh, National Anthem by Radiohead.

By Radiohead. There you go. There we go. That's a good one. Alright. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Bye. Woo!

Boy, I better call my PO. We'll be right back. Thank you. Everyone Everyone around here Everyone is so near. So alone. So alone. Thank you. Everyone is so near Everyone is so near It's all in love It's all in love electric guitar solo I'm so young I'm so young You've got to be kidding me.

I'm falling in love. Falling in love. guitar solo electric guitar solo Thank you. K hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself?

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