The Daily Zeitgeist - Vodka Tastes Like Fries, Candle Smells Like Orgasm 11.11.21

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

In episode 1028, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Get Rich Nicks, Nick Turner, to discuss Dems trying to figure out how to not get fully WAVED in the midterms, Tanya Harding 2.0?, ...Arby’s Releases a Vodka Because They Are Trying to Kill You, Reminder: Goop is Still Garbage and more! Dems trying to figure out how to not get fully WAVED in the midterms Joe Biden’s Biggest Economic Problem? Inflation Is Rising Faster Than Wages Tanya Harding 2.0? Arby’s Releases a Vodka Because They Are Trying to Kill You Want some fries in that vodka? Arby's rolls out limited edition fry-flavored booze Alcohol and junk food companies are exploiting the pandemic Reminder: Goop is Still Garbage The Splendid Uncoolness of “Sex, Love & Goop” With ‘Sex, Love & Goop,’ Gwyneth Paltrow’s latest career pivot might finally be worth rooting for Listen: Slow Down - Mixed By Art Feynman Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet. I am welcome to season 210, episode 4 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 00:02:08 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It's Thursday, November 11th, 2021, which is, of course, 11-11-21. 21, the 11 of the 20s. National Sunday Day. Yes. On the 11th day of the 11th month, 11th hour, we declared it National Sunday Day. Or Veterans Day. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yeah. Shout out to all of the veterans out there. Thank you for your service. All of them. Sorry. Every single last one of them. At least the ones I know. I can vouch for them.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I can vouch for most of them. But yeah. Yeah. Why not? Especially if you were terribly conscripted in a war that you did not want to fight in yeah double shouts to you uh well my name is jack o'brien aka sharks biting me you know how i feel miss kintner throwing hands you know I feel. Squid game salesman slapping me, you know how I feel. It's a hot take. It's a Borat voice saying my wife for me. And I'm feeling still pretty uncomfortable on my own skin.
Starting point is 00:03:22 This is courtesy of Ryan Stark, who I appreciate gave it to me as the Michael Buble version of it because he knew I wasn't capable of anything beyond that. I am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, I I just cried on the stand tonight To cover up something I did I'll cry and it'll be alright That's just from me watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial And just already having my skin crawl Where I was like, is this gonna work?
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm like, is this gonna work i'm like is this sometimes this shit works yeah i didn't know i could do that judge like like stepping in is like also part of the defense it's a whole fucking mess but anyway that's from me and thank you me you're welcome yes thank you you as katie put it, though, leave him alone for his performance. He's not an actor. He's just a murderer. Fair. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and talented comedian and podcast host.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You've seen him on Fallon, Seth Meyers, and Comedy Central and can hear him on the Truly Hilarious podcast. Get Rich, Nick. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Nick Turner. Jack and Miles, you truly are the best of us. But I'm a little disappointed that it's not Jamie Loftus. Pretty good. Sorry. It's okay. It's not great great i don't deserve praise for it harder to rhyme than you'd uh imagine loftus yeah loftus best of us no it was bad and honestly i'm gonna go okay well
Starting point is 00:05:18 all right i've seen you man it was great seeing you bye guys i love your work love you too man yeah he's changed since he had that kid oh guys can i um can i uh yeah i'm back all right hey can i give you a suggestion yeah yeah i love a suggestion okay good i know people who do a show every day they're just like what's another thing i could do right here's here's it you gotta add jack fm like stuff and okay play on uh the tdz name you know okay like uh after these messages you know like we're gonna come back to the dog zoo the dog zoo is pretty good yeah the dogs i imagine a dog zoo that's fine welcome back to tight eyes zebra zoo is ttz yeah damn fool i didn't even realize
Starting point is 00:06:07 that that rules yeah i just thought it was a good concept for a zoo yeah no it is i mean yeah that's the problem with a lot of my ideas is that there are too many good ideas in them right people are distracted by uh trying to throw money at you and don't bother to get. Yeah. No, it's tough. Yeah. Okay. So this Thanksgiving, your Thanksgiving show, you know, comes back from break.
Starting point is 00:06:33 We're back. We're back to the turducken zone. Oh, it just comes in like that. And I'll write them. We'll work something out financially. Work something out financially work something out yeah yeah put you on a retainer yeah also a good idea fans write in you know tweet at us what your tdz of choice did you read them they love that shit like trippy dad zingers people love that
Starting point is 00:06:56 shit people love that shit they eat that shit up man well i know not much is new with you since we last spoke so uh we can just breeze past that part. Wait, wait, Jack, but that's not true. Wait, what? What happened? You're mistaken. What happened? I had a child.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What? Yeah, that's right. I'm a dad. I was... Zaddy Turner? I was a Nick Turner Jr., but now I'm a Nick Turner Sr. I don't know if that's how it works. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:07:23 For the purpose of this, it does work like that. All right. Well, I'm a senior, baby. welcome to the club man thanks what's it like uh you just said your child now is in the phase where it's gone from being like please i'm i'm not going to do much facially here because i've just been born to now entering the phase of smiles and giggles yeah so i wish that it was not much facially before it smiles but the baby can react negatively right from the first second it's always upset you can see it on his face you can hear it when he's crying constantly it's just having a bad time right and you do so much and it's like, guess what? Not enough to make me happy. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:08 When I feel like the first two months to three months are like a, you know, perpetual period of like when you first get out of a warm bath or out of the shower and you're just like, fuck, this is that the last thing was very very comfortable this is less comfortable yeah and then you know i know i'm gonna acclimate to this right cold weather but right it's gonna take a few months yeah so it sucked and being a bad a dad is bad
Starting point is 00:08:37 i thought but then but then those smiles started coming and uh boy, howdy, get you some of that. What kind of giggle? What's the stuff that your baby likes in terms of that inspires a giggle? What's the height of comedy to your child at the moment? Tickling the belly, maybe. I think it's like eye contact. The mamaroo. Put him in the mamaroo put him in the mamaroo if you don't know it's a little a little baby uh
Starting point is 00:09:09 chair that uh just moves in like a u okay yeah yeah there's the other one that's like the baby rocker that's like kind of a l-shaped thing that just like goes back and forth that you can really like get going do you know that one oh you're the baby bjorn the non-mechanical yes yeah yeah yeah i would get a little aggressive with that it's baby born brand i don't i don't know right but like when you're do you ever find like you know you're a comedian do you think you'll ever come at a point where you see your baby laugh at something and you're failing to get your own child to laugh and it like kind of fucks with you oh yeah well it's like i've uh it's that chapelle show sketch where his son is like nick cannon is hilarious right yeah of course man i mean it's insane i mean i've you know my dad he's a great
Starting point is 00:10:00 guy and he loves me but he's not my audience right right yeah if my whole life was like trying to make my dad laugh you know fuck i would be even less successful if you can believe or you'd be jeff dunham who knows oh my god the dream right i'm uh i'm like in a bit of a conflict right now because on the one hand my son is is having his first theater experience and it's really great he sings the songs uh loves them we play them around the house the downside is that it is cats cats sucks it is bad for kids it's fun but and he really likes cats so yeah yeah but i yeah i had never really gotten into cats, never listened to cats. And it's true what the haters say in a lot of cases. Not my favorite.
Starting point is 00:11:11 The hate is true. Yeah. And I'm worrying that this is going to imprint on him as what musical theater should be. Okay, so it's good. We'll give him another chance. After two months, three months, it starts getting good. And then at five years, he gets into cats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And it's bad again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to. Yeah, you're in a perpetual war with Andrew Lloyd Webber. Yeah. As we all are as artists. Yeah. Yeah, he is into Rogan, Miles.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I kind of told you that in confidence. But I was like, whatever. I mean. Well well because i tried to get him into tdz and he was like i i see what you're going for but and then he heard rogan and was like dad have you heard rogan dad i mean like this guy gets it man he's like you're just arguing with joe rogan and like you're not even respecting his like perspective at all of that right actually you're kind of more small-minded i'm fucking with the jre now slippery slope slippery slope that we all have to be careful of hey welcome back to just reheat eggs with your host joe rogan you see if you don't take it i can take the idea to a different right yeah yeah you're gonna pitch it around god can you imagine like what a sad show like Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to pitch it around.
Starting point is 00:12:25 God, can you imagine? Like, what a sad show. Like, all right, so how do you like to reheat your eggs? Oh, I love reheated eggs. I think everyone does. Just reheat them, man. You know, I can't afford new eggs. No.
Starting point is 00:12:37 What I do is I batch cook my sunny side up eggs, and I individually wrap them, and then I put them in the microwave for about a minute and a half. Perfect. Uh-huh. I reheat them longer than you would cook an egg in the first place. All right, Nick, it is wonderful to have you back. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the things we're talking about today on the show.
Starting point is 00:13:02 The Democrats are trying to figure out how to not get fully waived in the midterms. So we're going to talk about that. See what ideas they've come up with. What the pollsters have been telling them. Yeah. What does the handful of people who are just in the business of perpetuating their industry have to say to them about what they should do. What's their strategy? We're going to do a quick sedition vibe check. Like, what's that Jan 6 committee up to?
Starting point is 00:13:33 We might have a Tanya Harding 2.0 on our hands. I think we do. In the world of what I believe is known in Europe as soccer. Soccer? Soccer. Soccer? Yeah. I already pissed off the football fans by calling
Starting point is 00:13:48 the NBA the beautiful game. And I will continue to do that. We're going to talk about Arby's because they're trying to kill you with this latest product that they dropped on our ass. Fry flavored vodka. I guess not really trying to kill you because i don't think anyone's falling for that but could be wrong they got both crinkle cut and curly fries so we'll we'll talk about those nick will be taste testing those for us uh there's gonna be a ring on ding dong before we get to any of that shit though nick we do like to ask our guests what's something from your search history okay i was just looking at it i don't need to say i'm not a waste your time looking at my phone now i know it was coming hey it's uh it was thomas jane
Starting point is 00:14:37 thomas that's right last night i was watching watchingights. Okay. He comes in in the 80s. He's in the scene with Alfred Molina. Yeah. Where the firecrackers and it all goes wrong. The scene that was pretty much uncut gems packed into one scene. The whole movie packed into one scene. That's true. It really has the exact same energy.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, man. It's fucking awful. It lasts so long. Oh, man. It's fucking awful. It lasts so long. Oh, my God. Yeah. So Thomas Jane, and I hate to drop names. You guys know this. That's not the kind of guy I am.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Absolutely not. That's not the kind of comedian I am. Yeah. No. But I have done a couple podcasts with Jamie Loftus. Lyra, by the way, is maybe the single biggest jamie lost his fan that exists lyra lyra my wife yes lyra i'm sure the audience knows my wife at this point why do i need to say this yes the mother of my son anyway when i first got to los angeles not to live, but as a comedian. One of the first trips I ever made,
Starting point is 00:15:45 I went to a pool party in the Hollywood Hills at Thomas Jane's house. Oh, shit. Yeah. And he was not there. Wait. So is this like house sitting? You just jumped and hopped the fence in his backyard?
Starting point is 00:16:03 No. I mean, I don't know how I... I don't even don't even remember who i went with but uh i remember that his all of his siblings were there there were like three of his siblings oh hell yeah and i think that that some of them were adopted you know anyway they didn't even look like thomas jane sure but but anyway uh anyway it's just a funny memory that like that's my big holly Hollywood pool party. And my memory of that that stands out the most is I tasted some cheeseburger chips. If you're wondering what effect that does at a pool party in the Hollywood Hills.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Were they Lay's cheeseburger flavor? They could have been. I remember it tasted like someone just added pickle. Yeah. That's pretty much it. Thomas Jane is somebody who I have Googled personally as like, I've seen him be like fucking incredible in enough things that I'm always like, wait, why isn't he in everything? I guess he's been in a lot. He's had a good career career but it just feels like
Starting point is 00:17:06 i don't know i would say he's most famous for the punisher right right he was also in a hung two-season hbo show yeah right right and also uh and if you remember arrested development when he was the actor who was like playing like a like a unhoused guy and then he's what's uh portia what's her what's her name in the show fuck man i'm forgetting all the bluths yeah she she like portia portia de rossi is the one who's like falling in love with him and she like can't like she thinks he's like actually like a homeless guy right and then there's just like this one line where like he goes to help on the model home and they're like sort of like i know everyone's here for like you know their own reasons and thomas jane just says this line he's like i just want my kids back
Starting point is 00:17:54 lindsey lindsey bluth lindsey bluth of course of course work of unburdening that off of the listener's mind. People screaming, yeah, I'm sorry. Lindsay! Forgotten the Arrested Development canon. Yeah. And I'm not criticizing them because I have that same thing on podcasts. If somebody puts something out there and can't come up with it. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's a weight on me that is slowly killing me. I got to stop listening to podcasts. Nick, what is something that you think is overrated? My baby's gender. Okay. It's everyone's first question. When you're pregnant, when you have a baby, boy or girl. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But that is relevant information to no one. That's a really good point. It doesn't fucking matter at all it doesn't matter at all to anyone not even to me right there's nothing going on i mean it matters to me because i got a i learned i had to pull back his foreskin right to wipe his penis yeah yeah but that's it. You know, I bet you don't have to do that. If he doesn't have a penis.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Right. But in other ways, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, cause it is the, just the most often asked question and like for strangers, you know, right.
Starting point is 00:19:15 If they just see a pregnant woman and like, Oh, congrats. Like what, what's, is it a boy or a girl? You're like, you're a lady at the bank.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Right. What do you give a fuck? but i i like the reptile yeah she just like pulls out a notebook and she's like one boy all right thank you miss i wanted to know noted on your account yeah it's really really weird and just as humans we just have these just automatic responses that for no reason. And then it's just a waste of time. Yeah, because it does seem like if you have really nothing to say, it's just sort of like it follows this pattern of conversation when talking to like somebody like, oh, you're pregnant, which the next thing would be probably be, what is it? Was it a boy or a girl?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. Yeah. You know? be what is it was it a boy or a girl yeah yeah you know like i feel like it gives them something to because i i don't know too many people who are like when if when you give them an answer they're like oh never mind yeah a boy oh fuck okay sorry and then it's always gonna be oh that's gonna be right oh it just's great. Yeah, raise their shoulders behind their head. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 They're both pretty good. Yeah. So we found out with our first, did not find out until day of, on day zero on the second. And it really brings out a lot of folk science in people. People will do love to be like, oh, you're definitely having a girl. Oh, yeah, why? Why? Why do they think?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Hold on, take your socks off really quick, Dad. Let me look at that. You're sweating. Your pinky toe's as long as that fourth toe, so it's a boy. They were mostly wrong. Mostly, almost all of them wrong like oh you're carrying that like a girl it's definitely a girl uh-huh this is based off of
Starting point is 00:21:13 it's funny too one of my friends who's a nurse like when she was pregnant she's just around a bunch of like other nurses and like it was funny how she said so many of them she's like i don't really we're not we don't really care we're not looking blah blah blah they were like oh everyone introduced all their theories like so if like a nurse was from the philippines there was like a version of like what filipinos believe is like the full sort of assessment of what a child what kind of child it'll be and then like a russian nurse would say different. And it's interesting how she's just constantly bombarded by all these different ideas. Contradicting?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. Almost like it's not scientific. No. The one theory that I've enjoyed is that pilots claim that pilots only have girls, that there's something about being that high in the air, that close to the sun, that makes it so you only have girls.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And there's a band that I'm friendly with that back when they were very small and didn't fly anywhere, they all had boys. And then once they started flying places, they all started having girls. And their pilot was like, Oh, yeah, well, you're definitely going to only have girls now, guys. This band like a...
Starting point is 00:22:26 This band had a lot of kids. Is this Hanson? It is Hanson. Wow. That was the Walkmen. And they did have a lot of kids, in fact. But yeah, it must be like a holdover from the day when it was like, oh good, so you're going to be able to put them out in the field pretty soon. Or, you know, there There is a part of the mind that just immediately goes to that, but I just wonder if it's just
Starting point is 00:22:52 from an earlier era, because it doesn't matter until a long time on. It doesn't even change how you approach the child at all. What is something you think is underrated? That is a great question and a little out of left field. I did not see that one come. But I guess if I had to say something, I would say baby names. Okay. Baby names. This is no easy feat.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It took us three days in the hospital before we before we decided yeah he was nameless for three days now my approach coming with the name nick is that i don't want a name that three-fifths of my best friends have also. Sure. I mean, it is bonkers. Shout out to Nick Vatterot and Nick Rutherford, who are those guys in my inner circle. And it is insane that there's so many of us. And I don't want that for my kid.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Right. Yeah, yeah. We also thought that Tennessee was pretty cool. and it would be nice and alliterative tennessee turner you know yeah but that's that hits too hard that's too good of a name yeah stick that in the middle and they get it's an option for yeah if he if he wins a grammy then he can then he can start using it if he's a college football star i feel like that would be a show horse yeah yeah yeah don't gender my baby he could be a show horse now sounds like oh yeah that name all sounds like a turn of the century like baseball pitcher oh tennessee turner oh tennessee turner
Starting point is 00:24:39 oh my i mean we're a baseball pitch like a oh the tent throwing the tennessee turner yeah yeah oh yeah like an off-speed pitch yeah or a pool shark yeah yeah absolutely a pool shark it's no it's no joke that like that when you don't have a name and the baby's out is uh it's a real real process gut check yeah people really get upset it's like you know you thought people cared about what the gender was but once they confirm what the gender is then they come hard with what is that goddamn baby's name tell me now it matters how much does it weigh what's its name i need this yesterday on my desk yesterday you don't have a fucking name. I'm calling CPS. Everybody at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:25:28 It's the first thing they ask because they like write the baby's name down. Right. Right. And so you go in and they're like, what's the name? Every person we don't know. And they go, oh, you're waiting to find out what it looks like. You're going to you're waiting to see the baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, absolutely not. I'm not. We're just trying to come up with a good name. Who would do that? You don't look at a baby and it's like, yep, that's a jack. Just a baby doesn't look like a jack. A baby looks like another baby.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Baby looks like baby if you had to give it a name. If you waited, yeah, you'd be like, oh, tiny grandpa. Most of the kids. Yeah. Would just be bag of mayonnaise. Yeah, yeah, you'd be like, oh, tiny grandpa. Most of the kids would just be bag of mayonnaise. Yeah, yeah. You got nothing. But we went with Otis.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah, which is a great news. Because we looked up what it meant and made sure it wasn't on any lists. Right. That's what we, yeah, we had Liam locked and loaded for the first five years of our marriage. And then once we started thinking about having kids, we looked at a name list and it had been the number one name. And still remains the number one name. Yeah, it's still the number one name. The Liam Neeson affection is strong, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I don't know. Yeah, Gallagher. Yeah. Liam Gallagher is probably yeah i want a baby who can find me if i get taken you're about to be taken daddy someone who knows what a champagne supernova is yes thank you um and then of course as soon as i posted the name a friend of mine texted me to say that uh her she had named her baby otis and like moments before or no no uh years a couple of years ago i just but you just weren't up yeah i just i just forgot or did you know whatever
Starting point is 00:27:18 baby you know it goes over my head i don't care until it's relevant to me yeah exactly well you nailed it. So congratulations. Oh, thank you. Did you have a committee? Like I had my, it was my wife, my sister, and I were the only people who I was really letting in on the naming process on the second one who we didn't have a name for for the first couple of days.
Starting point is 00:27:40 But like, that's how you know you trust somebody is when it's like all right i'm gonna let you in the writer's room on this baby's name i wouldn't even tell anyone like what we were thinking about yeah just because i don't want anyone's negative opinion i don't want to see your face because it doesn't matter you know and there's no yeah there's no good names none of them make sense. Right. And so, yeah, we had no committee.
Starting point is 00:28:06 We just, at that final day, we were like, the hospital is like, you have to name him by this day or else, or else it's going to be way more paperwork. Yeah. It can't,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and it can't be untitled. How does it feel? Angelo. Okay, fine. Give me another form then. Brown sugar. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about some news.
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Starting point is 00:33:09 You hear that, MFC Erickson? No, we're putting too much on MFC Erickson's plate. Yeah, I feel like, don't do it, man. Anyone got a Canva account? Yeah, I'm not saying like a tie-dyed print with zebras running around on it. I mean a print that is zebra print, but with tie-dye. I'm sure it's being done. Oh, you're saying it's like a black-dyed print with zebras running around on it. I mean a print that is zebra print, but with tie-dye. I'm sure it's being done.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, you're saying it's like a black and white zebra print base shirt, and then you tie-dye the fuck out of that. Out of the white, yeah. What does tie-dye mean? Is it because you tie it together? Because you turn it and you dip it in the dye, so that's how you get them trippy patterns and shit. Anyways, people should listen.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I'm glad that i spent a minute expressing my thoughts on fashion because it's something that i'm really good at and i'm sure is one of the main reasons the listeners tune in i didn't say it at the beginning but uh it's a wonderful white shirt thank you yeah wait white t-shirt is uh is that like ball mon it looks like very vintagey dist distressed design. It is. Yeah, Balmain. I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's fruit of the loom. By the way, just speaking of what I look like right now, I'm still growing out my beard and mustache. I haven't made the full commitment to the mustache because, as I mentioned, my wife, I think, is going to leave me when I do the mustache. I haven't made the full commitment to the mustache because, as I mentioned, my wife, I think, is going to leave me when I do the mustache. So it's very uncomfortable, though. Things are going that well, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm hanging on by a thread. Literally hanging on by some beard hairs. I'm as full as Miles.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Oh, I mean, look at this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looking like fucking Burt Reynolds over here. Looking like turd Reynolds over here. All right. Let's talk about, uh, the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:34:52 They, how they feeling these days? I mean, look how we look and baby, they'd have a good, they had a bad bit of a bad couple elections. Some races didn't go the way they thought they were, especially in Virginia.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And like then it kicked off the whole thing of like, is it, are we too woke? Did the woke artists completely swindle the party and go too far left or something like that? So it's been a bit of a gut check, especially as most onlookers are like, see, this is typically the disaster. This is the recipe for it. You promise shit,
Starting point is 00:35:26 you don't deliver, then you wonder what the hell happened. And then you continue to not deliver only for a rebalancing of power to happen in Congress. And I think from the outside, it's pretty clear what went wrong, which was just sort of like, hey, why don't you deliver on the fucking legislation that makes life easier for 99% of the people? But I think it's like, they have this, it's sort of like they forget that there are more, like their donors maybe make up a couple thousand people that can cast votes, where, you know, the people they actually need to impress are in the fucking millions. So maybe just maybe emphasize that part. So pollsters have been doing a lot of,
Starting point is 00:36:06 you know, A, B testing to figure out, like, what kind of messaging is going to work? How is how are the Democrats going to make up to get some like independence and the base sort of energized to come out and vote? And again, the results are very clear. They come to this conclusion that, you know, essentially what it boils down to, people want to hear about increased pay and addressing the imbalance of power in terms of employment and governance. There's just a feeling that people aren't heard, cannot do anything. Their wages are just sort of stagnant and no one's addressing that. So that's just sort of like, hey, that's easy. We can kind of get behind that. Right. But it's just kind of sad to see that, like, so much money is being spent on consultants, you know, but the fuck. And like these are people who act like millennials and Gen Z voters like don't exist at all and are like confused when like these kinds of sentiments come out.
Starting point is 00:36:59 But the whole thing with this now is this polling document it like reads like aliens from another planet are just finding out about like class struggle and that people are aware of the disparity in the economy and it's funny how like with all this stuff's like we got to talk about this you know black voters like talk about just finding better outcomes in the legal system as well as funding for like historical black colleges and universities things like that and then there's like this one line that says quote and most importantly this framework produces some of its biggest shifts with gen z and millennials particularly the whites from this like document you're like you guys just don't know who you guys just don't talk to normal people at
Starting point is 00:37:41 all this is so clear that you don't know people who are like get a paycheck that they count on every week that you're just in an echelon or you're in a reality of people who don't have to think about their bills at all and it shows by never considering this when you're ideating around legislation and not only the small group to do it that they like don't worry about their bills like they're all multi-millionaires right you can't be in congress which is like hilarious how much money we know every congressman makes right it's not it's like sub 200 000 right and 100 of them that have been there more than one term are millionaires like yeah yeah we need to shut it down all of the defund
Starting point is 00:38:28 congress i'll go one further yeah right they're like y'all don't need a fucking paycheck that i feel like would be very popular uh with the people but you know right yeah you don't need a paycheck why are we doing this shit you everyone as soon as they get to office must pick a charity that their money goes to or something right or if it's like if you're not a millionaire then you can get you know because there are new members of congress who are like activists like you have cory bush yeah and people like that you're like oh yeah give them a better paycheck but like if you're out here like if you're the bullshit no even them no everyone's gonna get correct corrupted you know everyone's good until they're not well i don't think the
Starting point is 00:39:10 corruption comes from the paycheck yeah it's not it's such an insignificant amount of okay how about this they only get their paycheck you're not allowed to make outside money like a like an athlete like an ncaa athlete yes that's a good idea like take take the ncaas all the energy they were putting towards making sure that like nobody got paid overtime for the summer job that like they got while playing for the university of louisville like change take all that energy which was a considerable amount of energy they were like the fucking fbi on that shit like take all that and put that towards just making sure that congress people don't it'd be interesting it would be interesting to hear congress members of congress defend them getting a salary right you know like
Starting point is 00:39:58 being like well if not i mean i have bills i have to pay. And you're like, really? Then fuck off. You are worth, I think, over $100 million. I don't think you need a paycheck. I don't take a paycheck on that. That doesn't go to me. That's just holdings. So that's the big argument about you can't tax that. It doesn't technically count, really.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It just means that I can take out a zero interest loan on a fucking mansion because I have that much holdings. Yeah. And also, I got a good deal from the Gettys for officiating that way. Oh, God. How is that? Like, why would anyone want that, eh? Why would she do that? Why would she do that? A, why would she do that? Why would she do that for the optics?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Oh, I thought you were going to say, how was that something I wasn't invited to? Cause that was my first thought. I was pissed. Yeah. Fucking tight. I've not been invited to weddings before.
Starting point is 00:40:59 My friend, Gavin Newsom skipped out on the COP 26 conference to go to that. So that's how cool that thing was. Is that true? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, look, we all stand an oil baroness.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Oil baroness queen. You know what I mean? Anyway, so all this to say is they still have their heads in the completely wrong compartment of their body, not on the outside, just to see what is happening generally in the country. Because another huge thing that's happening that they're not really paying attention to, or it doesn't sound like they're saying out loud they're paying attention to, is the fact that prices are going up on certain things. We talked about how the inflation, there was an inflation piece on CNN, wasn't quite nailing all of the data on inflation, but prices are going up. Like there is there that's that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But, you know, how much it's going to go further or how long it is, I think, are the big question marks. And the huge disparity that's happening at the moment is sort of like around the fact that the middle 50 percent of earners have not seen a lot of wage increases, you know, because of a lot of the people holding out to not take low paying like hourly wage jobs, that's created an environment where companies are actively being like, here's like, we need to be upping what we offer people to get more people to work. So in the like the wage growth for people who are working hourly jobs has gone up, you know, higher than like the increase in prices that's gone on. So it's not quite maybe felt the same way, not to say that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:30 they're completely insulated from this, but because their incomes have gone up, it's a little bit less of, you know, I guess a perceptible, again, math issue compared to what middle earners make and like how much prices have increased. And then when you look at that again, that's a group of voters are saying, is anyone going to talk about, you know, cost of living increases, how to maybe treat people more humanely? Is that something the Democrats can talk about? I don't know, but they didn't. And so that's another thing they're pointing to is you also,
Starting point is 00:43:01 you got to look at again, what people people's lived experiences are not just what the messaging is going to be right but it's those like kind of very basic and straightforward ideas that they treat what when like you know a socialist candidate like just uses plain language to speak about them they treat it like it's a fucking magic trick that they're like this person like just puts has an amazing ability to translate people's needs into regular like that is disqualifyingly simple for the class of people who get their paycheck making it seem like you can't get elected without them you know going through your your phone and telling telling you which donor you need to like reach out to and then like also like you know charting and triangulating like fucking how you should proceed but the more the more i see of history the more i think
Starting point is 00:43:59 like the the pepsi logo redesign pitch that gawker leaked to the world in the early 2000s explains our modern world. It's an English paper by someone who didn't read the book but is on cocaine and is just so confident and just making shit up but is so confident that the shit they're making up is like smart and all all they have to do is like kind of confuse and intimidate the person into like not firing them basically that like the that the thing about like the this is the biggest shifts with gen z and millennials particularly the whites, that energy is just so fucking poisonous. All you have to do is just kind of look into it
Starting point is 00:44:52 and say, hey, do we have anybody who's fluent in porn? What are they saying? Oh, like it's, yeah, there's just such a terrible, terrible disconnect. We'll see what they do with this information, whether or not that's going to say like, hey, we actually turns out we actually can't just lie to people all the time. Or I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:14 TBD. But the answer will become clear next year. All right. Let's let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:49:18 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Pro soccer. So, I'll just let you talk about this, Myles. I'm not going to even pretend like I know what the fuck's happening. Your favorite, Paris Saint-Germain? Yeah. So, yeah, look. The Paris Saint-Germain PSG women's team is one of Europe's top squads.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Oh, yeah. And they had a great win over Real Madrid in the middle of the week. And, you know, sort of the story was there was like, you know, one of their starting midfielders, Kira Hamraoui, she wasn't able to start because her and another player were attacked the day before by like masked goons that pulled them out of the car and shit. And she had her like legs and hands smashed with metal bars. And luckily for PSG, Hamraoui isoui is you know understudy the person who's like kind of keeping you know just has this other play have someone on off the bench who could come
Starting point is 00:50:32 and slot right in perfectly under the name of amanita diala hania harding right so this shit got real yesterday because dialo was arrested on suspicion of being involved in the attack. Now, the story goes like this. This is from the Daily Beast. Quote, on the night of the attack, Humrawi had reportedly accepted a ride home from Diallo after a team dinner. Diallo was said to be at the wheel when both women were pulled outside by the masked men. But Diallo was only restrained by them while Hamraoui was hammered with iron bars. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So she's now being brought in under just basically saying like, so what's good, Tanya? Yeah, why can't they hit her? Also, they don't understand the game of soccer very well if half of their hits were on her hands. Yeah. Right. You're wasting time there.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Also, hit the other girl's hands. Yeah, just give her a good one, like on one of her fingers. Be like, I got hit on my hand too. I don't know. What if they were hitting our hands, man? Yeah, was that the plan to be like, do the hands too, so it doesn't look like a specifically soccer hit job? I don't know what exactly the instructions, what exactly was in the instructions were,
Starting point is 00:51:46 but yeah, apparently this was super sloppy. If like within days that they're like, okay, I think it's this part. Like we have enough to go on to bring this person into investigate further, but I guess so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Beating the fuck out of a teammate or a player that's above you in the pecking order, I guess it's still going strong in 2021. It is like a possibility that they just had orders to hit the star. They didn't care about some bench person. You know?
Starting point is 00:52:16 What's your defense going to be at that point if you're Diallo? I don't know what you can... Maybe I don't know. They just, you're like, maybe, I don't know. They just held me back. And I was like, please think of my legs and get hers only. I don't think there's much of a defense here, but we don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:35 We don't know. But I get it. Like, I feel like a lot of the time in soccer, there's always like this narrative of like a player who's keeping another player from starting. And I think that's true in most sports when there's competition for positions. But this is like one where you're truly like, damn, you really just went for it and knocked off this player to get your way into the squad. They're both like national team teammates, too. So it very evokes a lot of modern day Tanya energy.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Wow. I mean, yeah. Stay tuned. We'll be following this. I don't know if we will. We're getting to the bottom of this, guys. Or if it's open and shut, then we won't be, but it's pretty well. And also, I didn't realize she was gooned up to the point where she could put together something like that pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Oh, you're a pro athlete? Goons find you. That's true. Yeah. Right. Alright right let's talk about arby's they are releasing a vodka because they are trying to kill you yeah it's a good time for people who somehow don't feel bad enough about themselves already while drinking they are releasing a vodka that has won competing vodkas. You got your Arby's Crinkle Cup Fry vodka and your Arby's Curly Fry vodka. I am a curly fry man myself.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I don't think I would be interested in drinking curly fry infused vodka. Flavoring anything. Yeah. What is the seasoning in curly fries that makes them... What do we got? MSG?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Paprika? Yeah, you got your cayenne, you got your paprika, you got your onion and garlic. Okay. And that seems to be the main flavor profile of the traditional Arby's curly fry.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I mean... Okay, well, how much is a bottle? Oh, it's a mere $60. Now, is this just in liquor stores or are they opening Arby's with like Taco Bell Cantina, they'll have Arby's Barbies.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, right, right, right. Arby Barbie, welcome. Arby Barbie. Welcome to Arby Barbie, I. Arby Barbie. Welcome to Arby Barbie. I hate myself. And I'm Barbie. Branded with Mattel. Arby Barbie and Barbie.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah, it's just for people to buy online, yeah. Just to put on your shelf collection of empty bottles for college. Right. I don't know if I could eat. I mean, it looks like in this promo image, it's for like a Bloody Mary. Because I feel like that's the only time you could have a savory flavor, like in a cocktail where you're like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:11 okay. I guess, but this is just, I don't know. Like Arby's, I think of me being like just terribly high and needing to eat a beef and cheddar. And I,
Starting point is 00:55:23 the last thing in my mind is like, I would love vodka with this. I think it's so expensive because you're not supposed to eat it. It's just for promo. You're not supposed to drink it. You're not supposed to know. No one wants you to taste it.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Right. You hold it on to your kid for your kid, Nick. You're like, hey boy, you know what this is? This is a collector's item. This is your American vodka. I wanted to share it with you for your first drink, my boy. Well, it's the only vodka they let you drink in an Arby's, so that's why I bought it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:57 It's BYOB. Keep your options open. BYOB Arby's. This is actually part of a trend. There was a Taco Bell wine, a Grey Poupon wine, and even Cheez-It wine. These are wines meant to pair with Taco Bell. It's not like a cheesy Gordita Crunch flavored wine. Someone's just stomping on a bunch of Cheetos. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah, people stomping on Cheetos. Come on, everyone. Do a Cheetos and Cheez-It the gutter. Yeah. Yeah. People stomping on Cheetos. Come on, everyone. Do a Cheetos and Cheez-It stomping party. Yeah. And Duncan partnered with a brewery this year to release multiple beers. And they always sound pretty, pretty gross to me. I guess flavor is just fucking king now, you know, because like even if it's that like seltzer is also brought in the era of like
Starting point is 00:56:46 hey man fun flavors to drink right you know remember you didn't make varsity basketball it's like when a high school t show go high school tv show goes to college right you're like what is even your brand anymore this is right this is too fractured go to bed arby's you're drunk sir this isn't arby's this is perfectly okay i mean you know i i guess this is everything's just going to be a flavor like there's no like everything's just sort of done to the point where little thought has to be put into anything and you're not really like assembling anything anymore. Obviously, the others like I can see how the Arby's thing is just a pure marketing stunt. But even like when you look at just in general, how like the seltzer markets moving and how beers are starting to be like, fuck, fuck, man, fucking seltzers.
Starting point is 00:57:40 We got to fucking keep up. It's just wild how much that is just these like little things are completely upending, like sort of business as usual. Do you think tomorrow in the, in the Arby's marketing boardroom or whatever, they're going to high five over getting it on TDZ? TDZ. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:59 absolutely. Oh yeah. It's the number one target for all marketers. It's going to be on a chalkboard. I guarantee 100% a podcast barely hanging on the charts is the number you know, product charts during the pandemic. But apparently they were the ones that were nailing it from a advertising perspective. Alcohol and junk food companies have used the pandemic. This is a quote from a OpenDemocracy.net article. Have used the pandemic to, quote,
Starting point is 00:58:45 ingratiate themselves with the public and governments, yet their products are driving disease that exacerbated COVID-19 infection. Companies have donated junk food and sugary drinks to health workers and children's homes. So, that's cool. A beer maker has marketed a six-foot social distancing cool box.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And then, yeah, just like making donations, just making sure that everybody remembers. Hey, making sure. Yeah. When Sonny,
Starting point is 00:59:13 when your kids turn 21 or who knows by this time, maybe they'll lobby the fuck out of Congress and the new drinking age is 11. Nice. They'll remember to, to reach for a nice, great cheese at wine yeah because like that honestly feels like it just has it's just weird also too how products seem to be like it's clear like a lot of millennials are in the driver's seat with a lot of marketing stuff because a lot
Starting point is 00:59:37 of shit is now we're at that point where it's like being like hey hey hey asshole remember this remember this shit and now we're like oh yeah fucking arby's vodka cheese at one i'm it's enough for me to go on go on yeah say it say the whole thing and then i'll be like no i'm i will pass respectfully yeah taco bell pairing wine is a very that seems like a reach to me i just can't it's not let's not let's not pretend we need to do this you know it's the only thing that pairs with taco bell and every motherfucker on earth knows this is baja blast okay thank you okay so let's just cut the shit with this and know that that's the only thing you need to pair with it is some food dye. Like a New Orleans style Baja Blast frozen beverage, like hurricane alcohol, grain alcohol mixture.
Starting point is 01:00:37 That makes sense to me, but not wine. I do like this Cheez-It wine a lot more. I looked at a picture and it's a box. Half of the box is the crackers. Half of the box is a box of wine. That's much, I don't know, it just fits a lot better in my head. Right. That's a good combo to bring to a party.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You know what I mean? You're like pull up, they're like, oh, it's a house. I'm like, hey, I brought a little, I heard there's charcuterie. So I thought I'd, you know, pull up. They're like, oh, it's a house. I'm like, hey, I brought a little, I heard there's charcuterie. So I thought I'd, you know, contribute here. Little house blend wine and some Cheez-Its. In California, you can get that in the same store. But like in Virginia or New York, you can't buy food in the same store as liquor. So I wonder how that would work.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Like you go into, I don't know. Oh, right. You would have to get, in my mind, I was thinking someone goes to get the wine and then do another store to get the Cheez-Its. And then they have a separate store that fuses them for you. Yeah, you go to Lowe's and they shake them together in a big pink van. They're like, here you go. Off you go. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Sorry we couldn't sell it to you in one piece, but we appreciate the business. Collecting the elements to create this collab box. Collabo. All right. Is anybody ever going to beat the Doritos Locos Taco in terms of brand collaborations? Has anyone? Am I wrong in assuming that that is the unassailable greatest? You mean in terms of pure, just pushing the genre? Well, just putting two products together.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Like that one just made so much sense and worked so well. I'm just wondering, like, have we approached that level with a product? I don't know. I mean, I think if you made like a hot Cheetos michelada, canned michelada, I would drink the fuck out of that. I feel like we have not explored hot Cheetos enough. There were what we did talk about, like some Cheeto crusted fried chicken products. Yeah, there is some stuff like that. And the Cheetos did like a pop up shop.
Starting point is 01:03:04 But I feel like there's there's a way to go outside of food or something with hot cheetos to to the hot cheetos experience yeah cheetos essence yeah like maybe if it's just hot cheeto dust you know in a fucking bottle yeah oh like people use it like glitter. Yeah. You go strippers just covered. Hot Cheeto dust, where were you last night? Coming home smelling like country apple splash from Bath and Body Works. Hot Cheeto dust all over your work shirt. I bet the way people want ground up whale tusks or whatever, because they think it's got some healing property. You could sell it.
Starting point is 01:03:48 This is like pure from the factory floor Cheeto dust. It's not like his fingers were in this. That sounds like a millennial grandparent folk cure. You didn't eat enough hot Cheeto. Here, here, here. It's like my fucking great grandmother thinks hot Cheeto
Starting point is 01:04:04 dust fucking fixes that's today's tessin tessin on it stir it in with like like some muesli just to like add a little yeah yeah i think that i think that could work i think there's a future treating treating hot cheeto dust like a supplement that yeah just and what the supplement. You compress it into a diamond? The new Hot Cheeto diamond? Ooh. I mean, this is all music to my ears.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I'm trying to think of a TDZ acronym that works with Hot Cheetos. Give me 15 minutes. Okay. We'll just be waiting so listeners just get comfortable. We'll be, might hear some pen scratching.
Starting point is 01:04:48 The dust zeals. Yeah. Uh-huh. The dust zealots. The dust zealots. That's what it is. The dust zealots. Because we're all about the dust
Starting point is 01:04:56 and the hot Cheeto dust, not angel dust. Right. All right. And finally, we just wanted to check in with Goop, let you know they're still garbage despite the fact that they have a new Netflix series that is getting like like rave reviews from the New Yorker who had the headline The Splendid Uncoolness of Sex, Love and Goop, which is the name of the show.
Starting point is 01:05:19 The Splendid Uncoolness. OK, yeah, that's an interesting compliment. Blended uncool? Okay. Yeah. That's an interesting compliment. With sex, love, and goop, Gwyneth Paltrow's latest career pivot might finally be worth rooting for. That was from the Washington Post. Because we're all just like kind of waiting around, waiting to see, should we be rooting for her career pivot?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Or like, I don't know. How is this a pivot? Yeah. She's been doing this website for a decade or two. Right. Then she got a TV show, but she's a famous actress. Yes. So just one thing, like it is, it checks in with different couples about like sexual dysfunction and their relationships and like how they overcome it with the help of sex therapists
Starting point is 01:06:05 but because it's a tv version they like csi that shit up and like make it real like active and you know visual so sexologists actual like the people who help real couples off tv with sexual dysfunction in their relationships are pointing out that this could actually do real world harm because the show includes footage of sexologists and sex therapists orgasming and simulating sex in front of clients, watching clients being intimate in bed and digitally penetrating to women, which is generally not how that profession operates, but it sure would be enough to probably scare a bunch of people off of not ever like going and getting help from a sex therapist. This does sound like a better show than I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's like straight. Is this nest? Yeah. This is awful.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I got this. This sounds like the, like something like a teenager. Like, it's like when you don't have access to porn. Like, you find shit that you can kind of rock with. Yeah, you masturbate to HBO's real sex. Right. Which seems to splendid uncoolness of sex, love, and goop.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Masturbating to the splendid uncoolness of sex, love, and goop. But, yeah. coolness of sex love and goop but yeah the like the one of the the sexologists are saying like what one of the false you know misconceptions they come up against is that sexologists will need to touch you or watch you have sex and right that leads to real world sexologists both like not being used but also being harassed or people claiming to be sexologists making demands that people don't realize are inappropriate that's porn right because every time i've ever seen a sexologist or two people go to the therapist they end up fucking the therapist right it's only in porn right yeah but i mean i watch it over my wife's shoulder i don't watch it personally right right yeah that's that's nasty no it's fine you know
Starting point is 01:08:06 i don't judge i just personally i'm i'm a higher being right yeah i did notice you've been levitating off of your chair for by like two to three inches throughout it's november 10th what do you think's going on man yeah directing it inward it's november 11th miles come on oh i mean 11th yeah i'm so enlightened i didn't even correct you right is it just like weird sexology because i feel like all goop things are like here's some people to tell you some stuff that's kind of half true and completely distort your view of a given topic and then it's like and here's some shit you can buy too like you feel like is the one-two punch a lot of right no not not in this case because like goop is just selling
Starting point is 01:08:50 their uh fully scientifically vetted dtf supplement to boost women's sex drives which medical experts have called exploitive noise containing nonsense medical claims and they are like the netflix show is tethered to a quote online shop inspired with the show not by the show it was like a inspired a beautiful yeah inspired with the show which i feel like is similar to her like conscious uncoupling of like there's no one cause or effect here it's that two things are kind of working together right right it is the conscious uncoupling of bullshit merch that is attached to a harmful show so dtf uh was also featured in goop's recent 2021 gift guide which you know has been raved about and described as uh with words such as deranged the gift guide uh featured a 75 orgasm candle a 95 vibrator a 180 salad set a sled that
Starting point is 01:09:59 costs more than ten thousand dollars and a kid's jungle gym that goes for the low, low price of $37,000 because it's gold-plated and I'm guessing made from the bones of poor people. I mean, vibrators, you know, the vibrator tech, I'm not mad at a $95 vibrator. I'm not mad at it, but
Starting point is 01:10:19 I mean, an orgasm candle, like, I love when shit is, like, completely disconnected from something. Well, that's the sequel to last year'sm candle. I love when shit is completely disconnected from something. Well, that's the sequel to last year's vagina candle. Right. Wasn't that scented, though? Yeah, no, this one is described, I think the text on the product page says,
Starting point is 01:10:38 this candle smells like my orgasm. Oh my God, it really does. Yeah, it really does. What the, so what, like rotten cookie dough? Oh no. What does that even, I mean, that's what I hear. Yeah. From other people that do sex normally.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Anyway, this is about goop though. Why am I on trial? Yeah. Mile just burst into tears like Kyle Rittenhouse. No, man. I rolled over my foot with my desk chair. So anyways, this is all coming on the heels
Starting point is 01:11:09 of the Goop Health Summit, which costs $1,000 per ticket, featuring workshops on creativity, love, astrology, and belonging. And of course, Porsche rides. Because Porsche was a sponsor and the Summit on health was powered by porsche and held at the porsche experience center and attendees were invited to try the new 45 minute
Starting point is 01:11:35 porsche track driving experience and goop kind of presented this as a wellness activity claiming that the test driving a porsche was quote the chance to experience being in your body in a new way like i feel like they do collaborate like collaborate with like raytheon right be like their weapon systems allow us to be connected with the present in a way that only can be brought on by imminent death or something like that. Like, I mean, credit to them for finding a way to always goopify something like, yeah, this Porsche collab, they drive it way to be in your body in a car. Fuck it. Okay. Next thing. Check. There's also this personal sort of anecdote from when. She says, Driving's my obsession. I'm an excellent driver.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I'm too fast and I curse the whole time. She said that in the opening remarks. Thank you, Porsche, for being so aligned with us on the theme of dreams and dreaming big and dreaming your way into new incarnations of yourself
Starting point is 01:12:39 that cost nearly a million dollars too. Also, like the way you said my wife earlier. It's one of those things where you can't not say it like I'm an excellent driver. Right. Also, she sounds like a total asshole on the road. But yeah, cursing and stuff. It's wild because I know some people I've worked with people who have gone over there to work and they either flame out real quick or they get they fucking get in deep
Starting point is 01:13:13 right i saw footage of this over the weekend from someone i know who works there and the way they post and like we're like so geeked up on those Porsches and stuff, I was like, damn, look at you. They got your ass. Got us. Every time one of those posts happens, she's just quietly on her phone and she turns to her COO and is like, got him. See, got another one.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's like the guys at the Arby's Vodka. TDC, got him. These dipshits. I think they're actually hurting us. This is going to boost sales. My favorite Goop product is the vaccine candle. The vaccine candle.
Starting point is 01:13:57 So, yeah. So, don't get the vaccine. Get the vaccine candle. The candle works just as good. Just as good. It puts midichlorians in the air. And you, you too will be able to harness the power of the force. But yeah, like you meant, like a month ago there was a report that Goop has seen a massive exodus of employees in the past two years due to being overworked and paid at least 40% less than the industry standard. But, you know, someone's got to pay for Gwyneth and her higher ups to drive Porsches and
Starting point is 01:14:25 curse at everybody. They speed past as they drive recklessly through LA. Wow. Good for, I mean, these people are making so much money up at the top over there. Doesn't that like undo everything she's ever tried to do with goop. She's like,
Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh me personally, I'm a nightmare. I can't, I don't care how much yoga person does how many fucking sex candle therapies you do there's nothing you can do i'm a nightmare goop doesn't work by our product personally i'm so fucking wild with this shit none of this shit works on me but maybe well for you assholes don't know. I have committed vehicular homicide twice this month already. But yeah, now give it a shot.
Starting point is 01:15:07 But my mother's Blythe Danner. So I think I'm walking off that. Yeah. But, you know, good to see somebody again straight from the bootstraps. Oh, sure. Yeah. My dad wasn't one of the biggest producers in Hollywood. No.
Starting point is 01:15:25 The second biggest. The second. No. The second biggest. The second, yeah. Shout out. Nick, as always. Hey, that's me. Oh, it's over. That is you. It's over.
Starting point is 01:15:34 It's all over. No, it's all right. Whatever. It's over, Turner. I guess I'll go back to my life. Turn yourself in. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Great.
Starting point is 01:15:43 You can usually find me in the nursery nursery uh changing the baby yeah yeah uh yeah follow me on get rich nick and uh i'm at nicks turners on the socials and i want you to dm me and i will get to that in the first three weeks of you dming me all All right. Yeah. Great response time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, it's either never or right away, but not me.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Better response time than HR at most companies. Thank you. That's very nice. Better than HR at most companies. I want that to be on my next album deck. There you go. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yeah of course i have that information right here my dude that's sweet it's pulled up
Starting point is 01:16:33 dude you are on it yeah of course right here and i was last i was saying to miles earlier i like up to three tweets a month and so it's funny when i go to my likes, they're always very, very far away. Oh, here we go. This one is from July. I don't know. I think I liked it recently though. And it says, the most unintentionally ironic video for July 4th, a veteran having to deliver packages instead of enjoying his retirement. Everyone is focused on, well, he takes care of the flag, but how about how well his country takes care of him? This was attached to a video of an Amazon delivery guy, an Amazon crime delivery guy. And he notices while he's delivering a package, a flag falls off the flagpole.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And then he picks it up and he folds it back and he salutes. And then he picks it up and he folds it back and he salutes. And then he turns around and then almost falls over because he is like a hurt hip. And it was just everyone being like, this is the greatest video, American video that I've ever seen. It's just an old dying man. Yeah. Who fought for our country delivering packages. And it's just like, dying man. Yeah. Who fought for our country delivering packages. And it's just like,
Starting point is 01:17:48 that's our country. Yeah, it is our country. Sorry. It wasn't funny. No, that's no, this sucks.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Poignant. Poignant. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh man. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, the other show, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Come through for that.
Starting point is 01:18:12 We talk 90 day. Tweet I like. First one is from at Sneer ID tweeted, I'm proud of you. Hits harder than crack. That's true sometimes and from april wolf at a wolfle tweeted i just read a next door post with a woman looking for friends for her 40 something husband to play music with and there are a lot of women offering up their friendless husbands oh fuck anyone play bass oh that's actually how the beatles were founded yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien some tweets i've been enjoying uh dana schwartz tweeted why
Starting point is 01:18:57 did i grow up thinking that marine biologist was like one of five main jobs people had marvel's next wolverine at Kai Choice tweeted, Amazon at checkout, do you want to donate to charity? Me, bitch, do you? And then Josh Gondelman tweeted, do you think Shaq and the General are friends in real life or it's just a work thing?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Wow. I do like to just picture that. They better be fucking friends. Yeah, they better fucking be. Yeah. Also, Dawn at Dawn Blog tweeted, a group of white men is called a podcast. picture they better be fucking friends yeah they better fucking be yeah also dawn at dawn blog tweeted a group of white men is called a podcast don't appreciate that dawn uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist read the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page
Starting point is 01:19:40 and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles. What song do we think people might enjoy today? This track is called slow down mixed by art Feynman F E Y N M A N. And it's just a really, it's like just one of those tracks where I love when people, you know, will add a little bit of distortion or fuzz, like the overall recording to give it just that little patina to it. Feels like something vintage, but also spooky at the same time.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And look, great energy. You'll be able to, it's catchy. So if you like those aesthetic choices, I think you're going to like this. So this is Slow Down mixed by Art Fein. There you go. Well, we are going to send you there. We hope you enjoy that song. The Daily Zeke is a production of iHeartRadio.
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