The Daily Zeitgeist - Voter Suppression Or Infighting? Rockefeller Xmas Tree Truther 11.24.20

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

In episode 766, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Steve Hernandez to discuss the Trump administration cutting ties with Sidney Powell, a study showing that masks work, the Rockefeller Christmas tree, and more!FOOTNOTES: What We Know About Sidney Powell, the Lawyer Behind Wild Voting Conspiracy Theories Sidney Powell: Trump team cuts ties with lawyer who peddled bizarre fraud claims Mask Mandates Work To Slow Spread Of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds About That Maligned Christmas Tree (and That Owl) at Rockefeller Center A Brief History of the Christmas Tree in Rockefeller Center Owl rescued from Rockefeller Christmas tree is almost ready to be released WATCH: Jeremih - Fuck You All The Time (Shlohmo Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's right. with jack that's right uh we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious the talented he is mr steve hernandez great to be back how are you fellas good good welcome welcome jack i haven't seen you in a while jack uh how's your quarantine oh you know you know, I'm tired for no reason. Well, you got those kids, man. Yeah, yeah. I've been going to sleep when they go to sleep at like 7.30 and still tired. So, you know, I have an excuse to the outside world,

but really I'm just, you know, sleeping know sleeping entirely too much now the rest of us put on weight i'm sure you've you've gotten more defined abs that's the vibe i'm getting from you jack you piece of shit nope uh i am the tiredest i've ever been uh jack if i find out your intermittent fasting during the quarantine i'm gonna I try. This guy's doing like HIIT workouts, then taking ice baths. I see him. He has a whole Instagram where he doesn't follow any of us that I came across, where he's posting stories putting in work. Ice baths.

I actually found that lifting while in an ice bath is the best way to just kind of keep it. Massive gains, bro. Massive gains, bro. Massive gains, bro. The Rocky Fro workout. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's right. That's right.

Call these shits capital gains, bro. Capital G. No, I feel bad all around. That's good. I mean, good that we're all on the same page as always. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How about you? How have you been you how have you been

what do you everything's great i don't know if you guys saw i got engaged yeah congrats man yeah thank you person yes very excited it couldn't have happened without the quarantine uh it just you know you just spend so much time with the person and like yeah thinking about the future and i we're like mapping it out like okay case scenario, like we could live with your folks or we could live with my older brother. You just start planning like that. And I'm like, you know, if I end up having to live with their parents, I got to be her husband at least. You know what I mean? That's what I read.

You won't be able to survive. You don't have to be Steve. You know, she's a real top shelf white woman. So when she gets the inheritance i want my legal share of that you know you gotta lock that in now i'll go to fabric.com to get your will for free now and i hope you do include that in your personalized vows as well yeah lock in my share gotta lock it in i mean yeah it was a congrats man i honestly it was ever since you've been on the show like it's been an evolution about

talking about you and your relationships and things like that. So it's nice to see it, you know, like the last couple of times you've been like, you know, like, I don't know what's stopping me really. It's not like I don't like, I don't love this person and I don't want to be with them forever. It's just now that you've gotten to that, I guess the formalities of it, but does it feel any different or is just purely for like it feels so i'm telling you it feels so good but you know something that happened i'm non-monogamous she isn't she can if she wants to but that's just not a thing but i dated someone that went kind of halfway through the quarantine too and i was able to see how that how we dealt with that as a couple and i mean the communication

was great everything was just went well and so i was like okay what the fuck am i doing now and also i truly believe this too i know it sounds like a joke but a man if you could have a wife and a girlfriend you can't have two girlfriends and so i'm like i've got to make this official i've got to be a respectable person. And now because of the quarantine and everything, and because she didn't pressure me or, and it evolved, it happened so slow. We've been together almost six years. I, right now, once I made the decision in my mind and I was like,

start looking for rings. Now I'm like, I absolutely cannot wait to be married to her. I'm so excited for it. And I didn't think I would ever feel this way again so i'm very excited i'm very stoked even on the idea of marriage i'm like super stoked i i'm married i've married a lot of people in my past because i used to be a minister right and uh i i like i got to a point after my for my divorce where i was like i don't know how much i believe in this thing but even now just in the past couple of months i've been like i fucking

love marriage man i can't wait to do this i'm ready for if anybody if there's any zeit gang out there that wants me to marry them just give me a call i'll hop on the first plane covid be damned i don't give a shit yeah wow that big minister energy right there okay yeah uh well congrats man thank you that's uh when we usually ask people up top, like what they've been up to. The response is usually not as productive and life affirming as that. So I love to hear it, man. Love to hear it. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.

Whoo. We're going to about sydney powell baby um yeah i mean we talked about her on yesterday's episode uh which was recorded before uh the trump administration decided to throw her under the bus slash distance themselves from her um she is the lawyer who uh has been just thrown out wild QAnon conspiracy theories. She is J-Lo to their Mariah Carey. That's right. They do not know her. I don't know her.

We will talk about more evidence that masks work. I think I had referenced the fact that there were some studies. I think they were actually out of Europe. They were saying maybe masks don't work, but they do. They work. There's, there's more data backing that shit up. Um,

we're going to talk about, uh, the either sophisticated voter suppression or sad infighting that's happening in the Republican party, uh, in Georgia. We're going to talk about Amazon spying on labor. We'll talk about the Rockefeller Christmas tree,

uh, which we had called very sad looking uh all of that plenty more uh but first steve we like to ask our guests what's something from your search history um this is a little crazy but i looked up i i tweeted this late last night the the mega church that i used to work at that I grew up with, I guess this has happened in the past couple of years. I just wasn't paying attention. But the senior pastor, who is brilliant, who's a brilliant preacher and stuff like that,

kind of stepped aside so his son that I grew up with could take over. And his son is one of the worst preachers I've ever seen in my life. I knew he was bad. I knew he was bad 20 years ago. He's a year older than me. I grew up with this guy. And the same draft class, basically. I mean, I know this guy.

I know his ex-wife now. And then my first girlfriend was the sister, his sister, too. I know this family so well. But I found out that and I started watching his clips on YouTube. And you guys, his sister too. I know this family so well, but I found out that and I started watching his clips on YouTube. And you guys, I tweeted it, but I'm like for real going to tag you guys in a clip because it's the worst preacher I've ever seen in my life.

It makes zero sense. If you know preaching, you can tell you all the reasons. I can tell you all the reasons about why it's bad too. But if you know preaching, it's even worse. But any layman could look at it and say, this guy's out of control. And I,

what I actually, I, the search history was, I looked up his new wife and I found out that she's a member of this weird other mega church family from back East called the Muncie's. So this is faith community church. I looked into this too. Also,

I posted this clip on Twitter. It's kind of blowing up. And I guess this church that bought their property in west covina for four million dollars about 25 million years ago is selling it now for 30 million and i don't know what they're going to do with that money so i'm like the combination of looking into his preaching and me knowing this family and knowing like the kind of shady ways they're doing. I'm pretty sure I'm going to do like a limited series podcast on it because I know this family. And they're going to try to run away with this 30 million.

And all I have to do is post pictures of this guy's preaching. And you'll understand what a fucking joke this is. And this is in West Covina. This is in L.A. County. So I don't want people think of megachurches is happening in the south and shit. This is in LA County. So I don't want, you know, people think of mega churches is happening in the South and shit. This is a half an hour from us, guys. So I want to look into it.

Shout out West Covina. You know, shout out to Ikea in West Covina. Shout out Eric, the dude who used to hook me up with quarter pounds of kush out in West Covina. Great town. Great town. So I looked up this guy's wife. And so, yeah, that was my last internet search.

I'm looking at your Twitter page right now because I grew up in churches going to K through 12th grade. It was either Lutheran or Catholic school. So I've been around the word of Christ. And looking at this clip, I'm just watching it on mute and hearing you. I'm like, oh, yeah, this dude is full of shit. But just to indulge us, I'm just going to play a bit of a soundbite of it just so we can get an idea. I just love the way it captures it here verse one says the lord is how do you start this is how it starts the lord is we talk with people and people we start our sentences with the world is the world is falling apart you're talking with some people and you're

like the government the government is okay i have to stop there because i'm not yeah you're right that is it's failing to connect on the most basic level i gotta keep watching i just don't want to put people through this yeah i absolutely don't want to um yeah i was gonna actually play the clip i had the idea to have it and bring it but you have to watch it i don't want to um yeah i was gonna actually play the clip i had the idea to have it and bring it but you have to watch it i don't want to put anyone through that i'm so mad because his dad really is brilliant he made me fall in love with the bible and the word of god and the fact that he just passed it on to this piece of shit who's a he's a legit bad person and he looks so much older than you he like he hasn't read his bible i know the bible

and i know his dad's preaching and i've i've been watching hours of this guy's preaching guys it's available on youtube dan reeve faith community church and uh go check it out and i know his dad's preaching and he's basically ripped off a ton of his dad's preaching too so i'm like oh i'm pissed he's like uh let me just let me just freestyle off the top y'all something i was writing for my sermon how about this uh love is patient uh love is kind love does not envy or boast wait you said what this is corinthian get the fuck out of my face america american nepotism is just so they're about to come up on 30 million yes and it's you know churches are non-profits i know this church i'm telling you i haven't been this excited for a project because i've

people started messaging me that used to go to the church a lot of former pastors they've always come to me because i used to work here and they've been messaging me things and i don't know what you bro it's a non-profit so they can't steal the money but i know what you, bro. It's a nonprofit, so they can't steal the money. But I know what that family does a lot of times is they hire every member of the family. And because it's a church, it's tax free. So everyone gets like 100 grand to do a different job or you do a different bunch of different jobs. I know his dad. This is West Covina Church. They started 40 years ago.

The dad lives in Newport Beach, and they used to just come into West Covina and preach and go back to Newport Beach. Some Devin Nunes shit. Oh, yeah. From here, bro. They started getting tons of plastic surgery. It's a whole thing. I know. I mean, the reason why I'm so hype about it is just I'm so mad they gave it to Dan.

I was going to let it go. And this $30 million seems so fishy to me they're gonna break apart the mega church and they said they're gonna start a bunch of smaller churches but i just don't see them doing it so i want to look energy i love this energy it's like it's the kind it reminds me of when i used to be on facebook and i would see some shit about somebody like i kind of halfway fucked with but then you see some up there like this motherfucker are you fucking and then i would be like hold on come here sir let me tell you about this person right here on my laptop and they're like i don't know them i'm like yeah but wait till i tell you about that i love it i love it yeah fuck that guy steve what's something you

think is overrated um you know because i just said that I do think I think weddings are overrated. I know that's something that we say, but I think one of the great things about quarantine is that it's really allowed us to step back and be like, wait a minute, though. Am I going to continue to participate this? Now, Jack, you're practically a fucking Kennedy. I'm sure you had a two hundred thousand dollar affair. You know, everybody was in person a $200,000 affair. $200,000 person wedding. A plate. Some indoor

stadium. 20 groomsmen. Wembley isn't indoor. I want to get married so quick. I want to get married in 2020 because of the Lakers and because of the Dodgers and because of this bullshit year. I just think it's... I want to get married like to be like oh yeah that crazy fucking bullshit year

yeah i also got married in that year yeah easy to remember yeah and we were looking at new year's eve and at first we had and this is very minimal uh at first we had because we're both from here we had 57 people and this was like three weeks ago. And I was like, it just feels like too many people. Even that, health-wise, because of COVID, we just can't do it. We got it down to 28 people, which is basically all of our podcast co-hosts and our immediate family. I mean, I got three podcasts, so that's a lot of people. That's a family union right there.

But even at that 28 people, looking at this week, we just were like, five days ago, we had talked to a caterer. We had a little place. Her friend has a beautiful backyard, and we were going to use, but get it catered still. It was going to be nice. And then I was just like, the whole city is going to be fucking shut down by New Year's Eve.

We're idiots if we do this. So I think we're just going to end up going to Vegas. But I saw yesterday. Have you guys gone to a Zoom wedding yet? No. I've been in the room. And I was like, oh, that's what y'all doing? No, I'm good.

I saw a Zoom wedding yesterday. Henry Phillips, a very funny comedian, and our friend Deborah Etta Robinson. And they were at a cliff or something. And it was about a 20-minute ceremony. And they were both such funny and had so much heart. But I watched that wedding, and I got choked up, and it was beautiful. And then we just fucking closed the computer. And I was like, that was fucking cool.

And I'm sure everybody's stoked about it. So I do think now with me, that said, I do think weddings are overrated with $50,000, all that kind of thing. When we do have a big, a wedding, we are going to make it a party. I think we might just, her and I just might go to Vegas this like in a month or something and then have a big party, but I'd rather drop. I have no problem dropping 10 grand on a big-ass party for my friends rather than the 50,000 that comes with all the pomp and circumstances and the wedding industry

will just grab as much out of you as you can because you do love this person and you want to make it special. Exactly. Yeah. Because you don't want to do a wedding where you have to do drugs in the bathroom at your own wedding. No, no, no, no. exactly yeah yeah because you don't want to do a wedding where you have to do drugs in the bathroom my wedding do drugs where we want to right here at the fucking table of honor what is uh what's

something you think is underrated steve uh i love this i don't know have you guys have date have you guys had dave's killer bread yeah yeah i love dave's killer bread and i don't hear enough people talking about it i see they're starting they're starting to put up billboards and stuff so i i think they're doing well but you know as a fat person i try to avoid bread at all costs uh even though i i stay the same amount of fat no matter what i do but i i try to avoid it but this is the one bread i've found that is still delicious uh that that is all organic and whole grain and still soft it's like not like that ezekiel shit where it really does feel like you're in bible times like it's barely bread um but also dave's has a really cool story it started started in 2005 and Dave got out of prison. He started making this bread and they're a second chance company.

So they hire people who've gotten out of prison too. So it's a delicious loaf of bread. Great for a breakfast sandwich and a regular sandwich. It's they're big. Now you can buy them at Vons and Ralph's, not Trader Joe's, but if you got it, when you go make your way to your regular grocery store,

you can pick it up for four or five bucks and it's delicious bread you don't have to feel bad about and you're giving to a relatively small company that helps out x-con so i love dave's killer bread oh we've yeah we've developed like a brand loyalty to that and it's not like it was just because it's so much better than the other like you know wait to dave it's so much better than the other. Wait, to Dave? It's so funny because the second he mentioned it, Jack, you're like, mm-mm-mm-mm. Yeah, yeah. Now that I look at the packaging, I always see it, and I'm like,

that bread looked too intense for me. I'm like a Kroger, just straight white bread kind of person, but I like this. Oh, it's a Kroger. You get it at Ralph's. I mean, I know, but I was put off by the man hitting a guitar solo on the sleeve for the bread loaf no there's nothing about it there's nothing about the packaging or like i don't know like i didn't really know the backstory so like just being

like killer bread man did not like super appeal to me yeah man i thought it was like a southern california bullshit thing when i first saw the the packaging but the the product is good and uh equally ezekiel bread which you mentioned is like that's punished my wife and i like got mad at ezekiel bread we were like well you gotta get this dave's is out because like dave's is one of those products at ralph's that will sell out like that you can just tell it's like much better than everything else because it'll be a full shelf and then Dave's is just gone. Dave's Killer Bread is gone.

I feel so ignorant. My bread ignorance is just in several moments. I love it. Although now that I'm talking about it, I said he was an ex-con and everything. What if he was a murderer? What if that's why they call it that? I was just trying to look that up. I was like, wait a second.

Is that the play on words uh it was he dave's manslaughter bread dave's rote gross and negligence bread he all right so good news uh He co-founded Dave's in 2005. Prior to that, he had served a total of over 15 years in prison for multiple offenses, including drug distribution, burglary, armed robbery, and assault. No murder. So we good. Okay, so just pistol-whipping people. Yeah, yeah.

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She was just, she's caught my eye. She has a very specific look that this morning i was like trying to nail it down i think it's like partially she looks like one of the neighbors from rosemary's baby that's at like the satanic baby stealing party at the end that's good like she really has that like kind of soulless like a little bit off uh white lady vibe about her i i talked about on monday's episode how in addition to like being at the center of this you know uh attempt by the trump administration to undermine democracy and probably will succeed in many ways at undermining future uh elections uh she also defended enron executives which was like they were basically

deconstructing the idea of money so uh she's just always there to try to so uh tnt in the ground uh in the foundations of of uh our our society and she's a q supporter and got shit on by famous left-wing muckraker tucker carlson it's bad it's all weird yeah she's very strange she had that full-on like thing of like you know screaming uh anti-reality takes on fox news to get the president's attention and that's sort of like how she sort of came into orbit especially with like all the muller stuff investigations anything like she's just been a you know willing participant to just say absolute fucking nonsense and yeah this evolution since like the weird my cousin vinnie press conference where rudy did like his impression of fucking zorg from fifth element when he started bleeding black out his head for no reason.

That was sort of like the clock started ticking there. And the whole, like since Rudy came on, and just to, you know, I know up top we talked about how the Trump campaign is already distancing themselves from Sidney Powell. If you just look at his tweets from, I think, November 14th, Trump is like, here's the team. It's Victoria Tenzing, Joe DiGenova, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell. tweets from i think november 14th trump is like here's the team it's victoria tensing joe de geneva rudy giuliani sydney powell absolutely saying that's the team right there that's the

fucking squizzy and now the the legal arguments are completely like unraveling and rudy like you know right before he gave that just you know know, release the Kraken press conference. If you act like the words of the judge that he was just speaking to, you would be like, I can't believe these people just went out there and acted like they're so confident. The judge that Rudy was trying to, you know, we talked about how the case evolved. Like first they were saying like they were put there, had all this. Their complaint was about like the poll watchers aren't there and we're not like this is this is unfair. The judge was like, you technically you don't have legal standing as a candidate to forth like to get election law enforced through the court like this. Like it doesn't work like fine. We'll take that part out.

And then it becomes like this other case. But then Rudy, because of the optics of the the case like he needs that in to be part of the legal complaint so they can say like technically that's what we're arguing in court so he went back and he's like i'd like to amend it again and the judge is sort of like bro that's not how any of this works if you were in court you know you get like oh like one shot at this and then you there's a lot of approvals that have to be made to amend your complaint. So this judge says to just straight to Rudy, after all this just nonsense, he was saying, quote, one might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments

and factual proof of rampant corruption such that this court would have no option, but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief, despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence in the United States of America.

This cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. So they went in there, the judge basically basically you'll get the fuck out of here like you know it's clear there's no room for you for any of this what you're doing is an absolute waste of time and they yet they go out and they cry oh wait till you see this they don't even know what's coming so as that happens, they take just this terrible legal loss. They're now at a point where they're saying that this was all part of the plan so they can go to the Supreme Court. But as it stands, the way these cases are working, that isn't going to happen. And also their argument has not improved to the point that

the Supreme Court is suddenly going to see something different and be like oh yes we're going to overturn all of that so it's a very strange thing where you have people who are fucking around in a courtroom then tweeting to their ignorant base who know nothing about like the legal process in this country and just because they do all caps and hashtags and like emojis they're like oh shit that's a win because they said patriots and used an exclamation point being like we just lost in court patriots and people like retweeting it like yes the plan is coming together right so you know what kind of a lunatic you need to be for trump to kick you off his team at this point yeah i don't it's i mean the the thing that got him over the edge was that on sunday sydney powell went on newsmax and i'm just gonna play like a couple seconds where she she touched she said almost everything that there's a million there's billions of votes for trump uh magnets how

do those work uh how do we know dominion voting machines didn't like get brian kemp like he was paid off by dominion like she went after brian kemp and then brings in like vpn networks and venezuelans i'm just gonna play this and we also have evidence that there were any number of vpn lines open to the internet for foreign actors to be meddling in it. Has anybody given you an explanation as to why they had to turn the machines off? You talk about how the machines got turned off and then it was about done. Our witness from Venezuela, who saw it all created and how it worked, said that he knew as soon as the machines were turned off in those key straits,

said that he knew as soon as the machines were turned off in those key straights it was because we the people in voting trump and voting for trump in a landslide election had essentially broken the algorithm that had been pre-programmed into the machine so they had to stop counting in those states i don't even know so they voted so hard that it broke the algorithm they broke the internet it was like kim kardashian's uh a magazine cover with the champagne bottle of that like racist caricature that was the tail end of a six and a half minute rant of then like being like well what about kelly leffler like what's she doing it's like she's a republican senate can't whatever okay uh do that and yeah that sort of began the beginning the countdown clock where suddenly it's like oh yeah we don't know her um and i think because too this also signaled a lot

of like republicans starting to like be a little less enthusiastic about being like oh he won man we got to count all the like first it was like count all the votes and now some people are like being really cryptic john corin is like i think the result is becoming clear and they're like well what do you mean and he's like that there were wanting for evidence so this is like yeah these are the kinds of looks even like on you know right wing twitter i'm looking on like the different like subreddits and things like that people are starting to get pissed because even objectively like they were literally promised they've been promised a ton of shit in this presidency this administration and with this election they're like oh wait till we hit them with the fucking knockout punch of evidence and people were like yeah oh fuck yeah fuck yeah the shit never came and now everyone's like what the fuck this is

this is actually not i can't even go to work and being like oh y'all see that press conference where fucking rudy bled black out his head and Sidney Powell said something about VPNs in Venezuela. He burns everyone who puts faith in him, like on a personal level, like on a one to one level. And I feel like that's what's happening here as well is just, you know, he's a scam artist. His whole career is like a giant like charisma money pr ponzi scheme and like this is just the final you know it's it's just coming out in the wash like that this dude is completely corrupt and these people have put more faith in him than i i don't know any politician has had people just be like nah fuck it i'll die

for this man it doesn't matter what reality says or it's like fuck it i got a bone to pick with the world at large and i will just use this opportunity to just completely ignore everything i'm seeing and just go full throttle into like my own ego yeah oh yeah it reminds me of like i think all of his followers and everything too reminds me i've you know i used to swing and i've been to some big swinging parties but if you've ever been in there and a big group sex thing and you're just having all this sex and then that someone turns on the lights it gets really scary really fast but you're also just very i think these people have been caught up in the drama like this is a play. And then it's going to take some months for them to kind of snap out of it and realize however they've been being is not okay anymore.

And hopefully, I mean, I pray that they'll start to kind of calm down some. That's what's really interesting. I feel like we know what has happened here with this election we know that like they're not going to succeed in uh you know overturning the results of the election and now like the drama that remains is like what happens to those people who were willing to die to like buy into that version of reality that doesn't actually exist. How do they deal with the fact that this isn't going to go their way? Right.

Because it could go a lot of different ways. I mean, people thought wrestling was real. Yeah. Some people dealt with it okay. Others didn't. I don't know. Because these people aren't interested in actual politics. Like that's what I think that's also what it revealed is that there's a group of people who like policy or are interested in how policy affects people's day to day lives. And then there are people who are like use whiteness as a cudgel to just bash the weak.

And then that's what they're invested in. It's not like that they have a fucking slight brain for policy at any level it's like no i'm not responding to any of that because if i did i would be absolutely like none of this makes sense i'm here for this other show the cruelty show well he's also too you know as much as i i just you know he's also like paints the world in such a good and evil way uh where i think very uh uh, dumb people are, you know, like,

you know, evangelical Christians. My mom, I found out the week of, I found out she was voting for Trump and I found out through a Facebook, uh, like a Facebook live story. She was at like some kind of little rally.

And, uh, she sounded so sad in the video. I didn't even give her a harder time about it because it was a California too. So who cares? But she was just like, that's right. You guessed it. I didn't even give her a harder time about it because it was in California too. So who cares? But she was just like, that's right. You guessed it. I'm voting for Trump.

And I know she, I know what she's doing. It is. She thinks that like she believes him holding up the Bible and stuff. I don't like to say that my mom's dumb, but my mom is dumb about this kind of stuff. There's a lot of people where he actually believes he says he believes in god when he lets people pray for him that kind of stuff for people who believe in this stuff is like biden's not praying letting anyone pray for him not that he should either i don't believe in this shit but uh my mom sees that stuff and he she sent me a message that

was she's always sending me messages that i think she might i don't think i hope she's not q but it's always like kind of shady weird shit from your mom yeah yeah and she's like told me she's like steve i will tell you this though he had a he had an aunt who was a strong believer so they my mom really do yeah i mean she really said that to me on the phone so she thinks that he's an imperfect vessel but he does believe in god and they so there is a large portion of people who are a regular racist there are people who don't know they're racist but um you know the way the uh institutionalized racism has worked for them so well that they're like i don't know i like the way things are so they wouldn't understand that they're racist in the traditional sense.

And there's a lot of dumb people who just believe that the world is about good and evil. God. I mean, this God shit is truly driving a lot of them crazy. Yeah. And that's on God. And that's on God.

I mean, they are even ripping each other apart. You know, like you were saying, Jack, like they were saying jack like they're saying tucker carlson is a pedophile now yeah because he asked for evidence because even for him right he's willing to fucking cast dispersions over fucking and like whatever he's willing to do anything but even for him he knows like he can't go to like a to debate someone

of like with an intelligence level that he feels is on his level and be like hey man i ain't got shit like you're not winning a debate like that just like please give i need the goods so i can actually be out here and tell these people to eat shit and because they can't produce it now they're like saying oh you want evidence oh what are you one of these fucking communists and it's happening so rapidly. And I think it's an indicator of like what this, you know, what stage of, you know,

loss they're in. Cause I think we're past bargaining cause they've tried to stop the count or do these other things. Um, I think we're going to move into the sadness section because I don't know, like, cause now they're being like, well,

we don't need Tucker. Um, and they're also going after Kelly Lefflerler and david purdue like i was mentioning even with sydney powell these are people who are running for senate in a runoff that could potentially you know it will depending on how these races go it will it will it will determine which party controls the senate and essentially all of the legislative business going into this next administration. And you have a lot of conservatives saying, this is one from this guy, Lincoln Wood, at Lin Wood, who's like one of these conservative

Trump-er lawyers who's out there all the time. He's out here saying, let's speak truth about Senator Loeffler and Senator David Perdue. Why are they doing little or nothing to support efforts by Georgia citizens to address unlawful election and need for Governor Kemp to order a special session of legislature? If not fixed, I will not vote in the runoff. Will you? And this has become a thing of saying these people like turned their back on Trump and didn't go full on coup during this election that now they're bad and we have to essentially teach them a lesson by sitting out. Now, my whole thing is I see a lot of it being talked about, but there's also like it also feels like elaborate voter suppression to try and pull off this win in Georgia, because if the optics are that the Republicans are completely divided,

they're melting down, it makes it much easier for you to be like, OK, they're fucked up. If enough Democrats come out, then maybe the election is settled. But I don't know. Like, if you look at how Republicans vote, they vote much more consistently than Democrats do, especially in these like little runoffs and special elections. do especially in these like little runoffs and special elections so i just want to say when when looking at that i'm trying to look at both you know realities at the same time too because i just there there was a there was a version of me that was reading these stories and be like yes go on fall the fuck apart and part of me also being like you know i i i don't put it past them to also say this stuff out loud but also be like like, no, low key, like we're not fucking stupid.

If we lose the Senate, then it's a fucking wrap. So they are they're basically saying because these two senators will not overturn the popular vote for president in their state in Georgia, then Republicans shouldn't vote for them in the runoff. That's because the republicans aren't backing trump none of these people are backing trump it's become like we're actually seeing that part where we always said they've already been out of control with the base but to that point where now they're like you know they're like oh we'll third party this shit you're like right they got to it before progressives did fuck yeah yeah i mean i just back to i i think we're seeing a trend of trump you know we're seeing this in the transition and how he interacts with his base and his

supporters and now how he interacts with the republican party it's all just you know burning shit down on the way out uh that's just kind of how he operates always all right let's talk let's talk pandemic real quick because uh where we are uh over last weekend the saw the worst numbers uh in the history of california and this is happening at the same time that i just feel like there's a lot of lockdown fatigue there There's a lot of people just out. In Los Angeles, they're wearing masks, but they're out. And even sometimes not.

Man, I was reading people who are going against this curfew where it's at 10 p.m. a lot of places are supposed to close. And the quotes from people on the street are like, oh, what, COVID takes a break from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. get out of here it's nonsense right like what does it matter oh you're gonna tell me COVID already has a vaccine but cancer doesn't nice try bro okay no and then you know the fatigue things really I've seen in my own personal life you know with friends family like it's it's a very real thing and I think I just want to keep bringing these stories up because if you know if you don't you don't want to try and mix your households right now it's just things are so fraught and tense and um if you need if you need to come back at somebody

uh who's using all kinds of arguments about why it doesn't matter or whatever who gives a shit about masks there there's just more and more, like even in the easiest way to describe to somebody like not just being like, well, the particles that are just, it's very simple. They looked at it like this in Kansas, right? The CDC and the Kansas department of health, they did a study, right? When the state said we want to do a mask requirement, but it's not, you know, counties can opt out. 81 counties opted out of the mask mandate. The other 24 counties, which were like the accounted for like a huge part of the state's population. They said, you know what, we're, we're going to go with the mandate that says you have to wear a mask in public. They looked at the sort of infection trends and things

like that. And it's, it showed that the counties that required masks that obviously they had higher rates just because of the population. But in terms of the mask usage over that two month period, they brought the growth of cases under control and even reduce them. The places that didn't require masks saw their cases rise. And then even on average, the counties that required masks saw a 6% reduction in cases.'s that's that's a reduction that's verifiable uh the counties that opted out of the the mask mandate saw a 100 percent increase um now i'm no math expert but oh fuck okay so let's talk about percentages man how did that work percentage of what that's the thing i always hear is like well percentage of what and i'm like what are you even asking like that's not that's not a that's

not a rebuttal to a fact i just gave i'm telling you what that percentage is but it's just so weird because without throughout all this mask or safety or social distancing stuff you see people bend their fucking minds in knots to suddenly be like an armchair physicist or expert in airflow and like particle movement and like epidemiology and use like very site like pseudo-scientific reasonings to be like um actually masks don't work but then rather but they can't even go to the simple step of just saying like putting something over fucking mouth and face will act as a barrier like even if i'm talking right now there's a difference there rather than being like let me

try and think about how this mask makes it worse for someone like there it's it's a lot of work so you know it's it's real simple masks help uh anybody who's trying to say counter it's not just for it's and it's not just for other people it will also protect you the cdc also came out and be like oh no it also has a benefit to the wearer as well so please as we go into this reminding people everybody who's listening to this is going to wear a fucking mask though right i you think so i don't know there could be some cool people some uh left curious listeners who are like what are they talking about over there huh they're not talking about enslaving

conservatives obsession america's obsession with individualism i just you know all this trump shit it's all like they don't people just don't like to be told what to do and that's like the american way and i really do feel like are like the the roosters have are the chickens have come home to roost that there's just a segment of our population because our country is founded on this bullshit that is like they're just not going to listen to anything to them the highest value is you cannot tell me what to do that's a terrible way to live but it's also what our country is based on and uh i think we're just going to be kind of fucked for a while. Our dream is that we went in Georgia and that they let us shut down for a few months and they pay everybody.

But I don't know if even Orange County, I don't even know if the people would listen at that point. I mean, yeah, but people would be like, thanks for my check. Now I'm a party with it in public. Oh, yeah. I know a lot of people in the suburbs in Covina, West Covina, in Corona. And the people in the suburbs as seriously as we're taking it or not taking it here in the city in L.A. proper. Those people just it does not matter to them. I'm like following them on Instagram.

They have barely changed the way they have lived completely because because the disease is just not killing enough people it's very deadly but it's a lot of people don't know anyone who's been seriously hurt or or killed by it and so people you know they only see what's in front of their face it's just not enough for them so i actually this one's on god too we could have used a little deadlier father god what the fuck we could have used it a little deadlier i was hoping for that hand of darwin to come on down coming for to carry me home i mean the things that they love i you know it's i'm not mad at anyone i actually love my family i i am sad that i'm not going to see my family on thanksgiving but i'm also like who

gives a shit it's one year we'll be back next year it's fine so when you see like people mourning on twitter like you know some people think it doesn't matter they say this but it means so much to me i'm like man we're just such like basic animals that some people's brains are just wired ways where they think some things are just so important and thanksgiving is oxygen disneyland is oxygen yeah i mean it's exactly that it's this like fairy tale thing where they're not able and i'm not saying that it's you know we've built our lives around some of these fairy tales and some of the things that we value so i'm not saying like it's the easiest thing but for them to accept these realities, just like Trump stuff, it's like it kind of could destroy the way a person has set up their life.

You know, if you work so hard to get things like Thanksgiving and Christmas, you like bust your ass to do all these things and then you take these things away. This is like a fundamental building block in some people's mind. I don't think that's correct for them to be that way. But I know that a lot of years based on that being and christmas thanksgiving and christmas you know vacation yeah those two weeks of hawaii i do everything for those two weeks i just had to convince my parents not to come out here they they just canceled their trip from the east coast to come to california they i mean my parents haven't seen my two-year-old since he was one you know they haven't seen like that's a that's tough for a for a grandparent not

to see like a whole like chunk of a kid's life or to be able to age yeah who the fuck is this jack yeah exactly my son why does he have a little mustache exactly yeah i mean even when there's like good reason and even you know that's it's very sad for them it's very sad for us but like you gotta make some sacrifices and just trust that there's light at the end of the tunnel if we you know trust in the scientific method that's been making everybody's lives better for for a fucking century now yeah it's funny to see even people who are like man like for all the people who like want to go to thanksgiving like i saw a few takes are like i i'm trying to avoid the thing that is the reason like the 25 times of doing this over my life has is the basis of my therapy like we don't need these

thanksgivings right now like thank god and also yeah like i get it when it's such a part of your it's like the seasons for some people you know it's like well the year i the only one thing that is consistent might be these holidays and i get it but fuck man we got so much time in our lives and life is very precious at the moment so that there's you don't want to be like i was reading a story about this family in texas that got together for someone's birthday fucking everybody got covid everybody got it at the park every fucking family member and like now like the elderly members of the family are like in bad shape and they're just like uh we i don't even know yeah because

even the even the old folks or you know anyone who gets it and doesn't die but like they can have heart damage brain damage like long term it's it's no fucking joke and yeah it's uh it's hard like we're having to um do adulting uh the coolest phrase in the world but like we're actually having to like you know be an actual be actual adults even sometimes when like you're having to convince people who are older than you to do the adult responsible thing like you just got to do it yeah all right let's take a let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the true meaning of Christmas. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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And we're back. And the Rockefeller Christmas tree. I think we all can agree. The most important symbol. The seasons are changing. It's actually kind of a wholesome origin story that during the Depression, while the construction workers were building 30 Rock,

the construction workers themselves decided to buy a giant-ass Christmas tree with their own construction worker money and put it up as a symbol of hope for the city during the Great Depression like when nobody had any money they were just like nah fuck it let's chip in we'll decorate it with our

own like Christmas tree decorations from home so this has been going on for for close to a decade or close to a century and it started like with the actual people as opposed to like some corporate sponsor that is like the first national bank lighting ceremony or whatever the fuck is well that's america you know it starts off with like a sincere gesture

from normal human beings and then a corporate is like get out of my way we're gonna brand it fuck you this is a new thing here's the doll buy it for this christmas for your kids um but anyways our writer jm i i talked shit about the appearance of the uh this year's rockefeller christmas tree uh i got on the yeah this is so appropriate for 2020 bro look at this piece of shit christmas tree uh because it did look like shit in the pictures people were posting. It just looked like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree, like a giant version of the Charlie Brown Christmas tree with just a couple branches, a couple pine needles,

but that was about it. But apparently, that's what it always looks like after it's been transported for two days and it's just all bundled up and shit. Fuck that. It looks like after it's been transported for two days and it's just all bundled up and shit. It looks like vacation weed. I'm like, are you sure, bro? What the fuck is this?

But yeah, I guess... I mean, if you look at the one from 2010, it looks like shit. Can we get some arborists on to tell us if our tree shit talking is on point are we missing some nuances you're like i don't know man check out that branch those branch clusters looking pretty good yeah but i don't know i guess one way to interpret it is that like we just don't usually look at the tree right when it's hauled out like without any decorations on it for like a sign of the year to be like ah see the whole year is fucked look at that thing look at that tree

that was all wrapped up in shit on the exactly right for 2020 um i would never look like that if i was bound and laid on a truck for two days. Are you going to get a tree this year, Jack? Yeah. Yeah, we're going to. Probably this weekend. That's usually when we do it. I got my shit up last night. What?

Is that real? Yeah. I bought a fake one for the first time because I was like, I love a tree because I love this scent. That's really the only reason I get it is just to basically have a big-ass potpourri dish in my home that smells like a fir tree or whatever that is, that pine scent. But then, like, when the needles start coming off and I got pets, so that shit just, like, starts scattering everywhere. And then the pets want to drink from the little bowl where the fucking tree water is at. And I'm like, it just, I'm like, fuck it.

Let me just get the cheap $60 joint that I just have to put in a box every year and bring back. I'm actually liking it. It was nice. It has the nice shape because, to your point, when you buy them and you get them at a tree lot and you're not getting the one that's like, they're all sort of already on stands and stuff.

They're like, okay, yeah, let me pull a six footer from you. That's already wrapped up. You're like, fuck, is this going to look good? fuck is this gonna look good right and then you actually can't know yeah and you gotta like work the branches and shit to try and get them like be even then you get like sap on your hand and then like papers are sticking to that for like three weeks yep exactly and then then you're disbarred because the judge is saying you're making specious legal arguments it It's all bullshit. I think I don't normally like to get...

I don't have kids. If I have kids, then I'm doing all this shit right away. But I don't normally like to buy one. But I think I'll buy one this year. Get the fakey. I like the real one. I even like to think about death, okay? Yeah, yeah.

So when it's dying, I want to think about death. Plus, you guys see my instagram you know i gotta take a picture of my girl by a tree she'll love that shit oh yeah yeah right yeah but um yeah i think i'll buy one this year just because we have there's there's like we're gonna have nothing it's gonna be like yeah like oh charlie willie wonka in the check when he gets the loaf of bread we're gonna have just the fucking tree. The loaf. Yeah, just that loaf. But I'm excited.

I love the holidays. I didn't used to because I came out of the church, and there's a strong streak of like, oh, this is such a bullshit holiday. But the older you get, the more. Anytime you get time off of work, anytime you can see your loved ones or just take time to think about what's good about life. I'll fucking take that shit now. Any way it comes.

I love the state sanctioned eating. Yeah. The secular side of it that like, you know, we've been celebrating this before Christianity, like just as the the day that the earth is trying to kill you the most. And we all get inside and get drunk and eat a lot of food and it's actually uh humanity's mating season when you look at like how the uh birthdays line up like this is the time when most babies are conceived so it's i i like that i like that side of it just people fucking in a hot cave exactly our ancestors some whiskey milk concoction to me that's like the greatest you know we have all these dating rituals now but back then it used to be villages and you just just grab the closest person like like that's to me like yeah we're just animals baby

i know we've created all of this but give me that fucking uh you know you know but with the lights off you know you don't want to be a swingers party in the lights yeah yeah yeah still respect this maybe a small fire flickering in the corner but yeah i would say you know like to your point steve of like you know we're not gonna get the same activities that we normally do like i would love to hit a christmas market for some shit shout out to the vancouver christmas market i love that one but there's shit like shit that you do that's out and about and you're like oh let's go look at this since i can't do that i am fully just trying to transform like my living room into like a hallmark channel fucking like fever dream because i put a i got a wreath i put

a wreath on my wall inside the fucking house like i'm i'm honestly i will be trust me on fucking december 25th i will be karen gray uh i am a you know 49 year old white woman from the san fernando valley who does not fuck around with the holidays like i'm i'm i'm trying to get new candles and shit i'm'm fully invested on getting my senses as immersed in that just to make up for the other shit. It's easy. People can't see it, but you took a few days off and came back with an amazing blowout.

Thank you so much. It looks great. Very chunky. Full disclosure, I got the hair transplant because I didn't want to wear a wig. I was telling y'all, it just doesn't feel the same. So I want to get the transplant. I got i got the you know can i speak with your manager kate gosselin edge cut like the edgiest woman in yuma arizona uh and yeah i'm just feeling good

you know yeah and then there's also the fact that they found like this really cute tiny owl uh in the christmas tree uh that they know is that rockefeller uh this year yeah this year that's this year they this year's ken bone yeah that's right tiny tiny owl the rock rockefeller the tiny owl uh and was i don't know you know transported from wherever the tree grew they had to put it in an animal sanctuary because it was dehydrated and malnourished. And so they gave it a bunch of water and mice. This thing is a killer.

Don't ever forget it. Owls are the greatest hunters. Have you ever seen those videos where they show all the different animals flying and how much sound they make, and then an owl goes and it's silence just stealth as fuck anyways this tiny cute little owl still eats red-blooded uh animals what were those like scandinavian pilot women oh the uh yeah the um night witches right because when they kill the engines and just start gliding. Kill the engine, glide over, and just drop bombs.

Like, wow. Shout out to the owls throughout history. When you come through silent and you just fuck the whole thing up. Just like drop bombs with their hands out of airplanes. Hey, give me another one. Yeah, yeah.

Eat that one, motherfucker. They called them the Night Witches because they could hear them laughing. another one yeah yeah right here eat that one motherfucker yeah have another one they called him which is because they could hear them laughing and that was the only thing they heard you couldn't hear the airplane because they're having a good old time throwing bombs out the cockpit window exploding uh yeah yeah steve it has been a pleasure having you as always man where can people uh find you and follow you you find me at big Big Hern on Twitter, Herny on Instagram. Listen to my horny male podcast, The Male Gaze, my religion ethics podcast with Amy Miller called Who's Your God,

and then our movie podcast with Zed Kutzinger and Honor Nezzo called Views from the Vista. Just wanted to wish a happy birthday to my beautiful fiance. It's her birthday today. We're about to leave out of town. So happy birthday, Julia. I love you. I can't wait.

I hope we last for at least 15 years. That feels pretty good to me. Yes. Thank you guys for having me on. 818-555-3030. And give a shout out to your special honey live on the air. I just want to tell you, girl, I love you. I love that. It's a quiet storm.

Oh, and is there a tweet you've been enjoying Steve? Uh, yeah, I just retweeted this last night. It just made me laugh a lot, uh, because I am a lefty liberal person.

Uh, and this, this, I believe has the correct sentiment. Uh, where is it? Uh, this is from,

uh, at mumble comic. He's a, uh, comedian in New York, uhork venae and it was this you only get 17 chances with me don't blow it i know i love that yeah i i've got forgiveness in my bones you know i'm ready to i'm ready to take these trump voters back and open arms just quit being morons we'll take you back baby yeah uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying uh find me twitter instagram at miles of gray also

the other podcast for 20 day fiance we're talking 90 day uh and see let's see let's see what am i what's a tweet i like oh this one from dana donnelly at dana donnelly d-o-n-l-y she tweets one time i told my doctor I eat candy every day, but it's fine because I've never tried hard drugs. And she was like, hard drugs one time is not as bad as candy every day. Oh, no. Is that true?

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's funny. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying at snooted tweeted taking her to starbucks because i forgot her name just a little life uh and uh alex uh damn tweeted friends Yeah, friends giving each other COVID. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore Brian. You can find us

on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on, Miles.

What are we riding out on today? I was just thinking about, you know, R&B singer Jeremiah. And he was hospitalized and he was in the ICU, but he's been moved out of the ICU. And I was like, oh, you'd love to see it. And the other day i was thinking about magic mike and there's that song fuck you all the time that plays um in that like the like climax scene when they're in vegas doing like the wild big show uh but that song there's a

remix by shlomo that i like so this is the jeremiah fuck you all time. Shlomo remix. Okay. Uh, I think you can only get this on soundcloud, but it's, I mean, look, if you want to close your eyes and envision your one of Steve Hernandez is sexy lights off sex parties.

Uh, and this is the vibe for sure. Uh, with this track. All right. The daily zeitgeist of production of I heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio, visit the heart radio app,

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