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Hello, the internet and welcome to season 394 episode five of Dear Daily Zeitgeist. The exciting conclusion of season 394, one of my favorite seasons of the podcast. This has actually been the best, one of the best personally, I think for us, the amount of kind words that have been uttered to us. Our guests are like so nice. Our listeners even nicer. Yeah, yeah, the listeners too nice. We've gotten some guest bookings on the horizon

that we won't reveal as of yet, but very exciting. And we've got a guest booking today that we're very excited about. But this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It's Friday, June 26th, 27th, 2025. I'm coming in on a full William H. Macy and Fargo. I was just- Flop sweat.

Flop sweat. Everywhere. Just doing my best not to punch the steering wheel. Just being like, fuck, fuck, fuck. My internet died right as we were about to start recording. Drove into the office, which is only 10 minutes. Realized I left my keys to the office at home. Drove back home.

So we're coming to you like 40 minutes later than we were supposed to, all on account of me just having that real good William H. Macy. Just everything collapsing around the energy. But thank you for your patience, my dear co-host. What's happening on June 27th? Oh, sorry. I was just so disappointed, Jack, that you just took so long. I thought, you know, my abandonment issues,

I had some stuff going on with my family too, it's very triggering, you know what I mean? So it's okay stuff going on with my family to very triggering. I mean, it's okay It's all about its National Sunglasses Day National Onion Day National Ice Cream Cake Day National Orange Blossom Day National HIV testing day and National PTSD awareness day So yeah, great. I love a sunglass. Do you call it a sunglass? Oh shit, okay and onions orange blossoms great ice cream a sunglass? Do you call it a sunglass? I just put my sunglasses on. Oh shit, okay. And onions, orange blossoms, great. Ice cream, PTSD awareness, HIV testing awareness. Yeah, other if I had an HIV test or you know orange blossoms or any of those things, I would partake in those as well. That's

a weird thing that radio DJs are always doing, they're always wearing sunglasses indoors. I mean that's like the 80s movie version of a radio DJ. Always. That's the last time I paid attention. As someone who's worked at radio, never seen somebody wear shades. That was the DJ. The artists will come in on some cool shit and wear sunglasses, but the DJs never.

They're working and they're always wearing sweatpants. I'm too sleepy to wear sunglasses in the morning. You think it just puts you to sleep? Yeah, it just puts me right to sleep. All right. What is it? Bedtime? All right, well wake up. My name is Jack O'Brien,

aka let me sleep, let me slumber. Why the hell won't you open up? Are you just stupid? Oh, I see you're stupid. That one courtesy of New Chris. New Chris Ventures with Old Christine. Is that something? I don't know.

It's something I wrote this morning. That was a song written from the perspective of my youngest when I wouldn't let him into our room when we were trying to do a sleep training. He just roasted me for like 45 minutes straight. Yeah. Hey, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, straight off the streets of the San Fernando Valley is the Lord of Lakersham, the Shogun with no gun. It's Miles great. Thank you for having me. It's great Also, it's great to have you miles. Well, just want to say up top demoine zeit gang

I'm going to be in your city this weekend. I need recommendations. I need to know where Where do where do the where do the fine people of demoine the where do zeit gang go? You know, where's the food that I need to eat? I want to hear from you all because I love you all, I trust you all. If you see me in the street, say what's up, but do it politely. You know what I mean? Yeah. Awesome. That'll be fun.

I didn't know you're going to Des Moines. Yeah, for a wedding. Obviously, I'm not going to miss out on a chance to go to the great state of Iowa. Never. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning playwright whose work has been developed and performed at the Public Theater in New York, Interact Theater in Philadelphia, the Royal Court in London.

What the fuck is he doing on this show? What is he doing on this show? What the fuck is he doing on this show? He's written on shows on TV from NBC's Law and Order SVU, BET's American Soul, AMC's critically acclaimed interview with a vampire. What? He also co-hosts the podcast, the Inner Cities podcast.

All right. That makes me feel better. Brings him back down. He's a podcast. He's a podcast. Please welcome to the show, Azeell Williams. Thank you for having me. I am the Angry Black Man of the West, A-Zell Williams. But let's hear it for Zoran. Candidate who actually does shit.

New world lives won't have it, but we love Zoran. Feels good to feel good, doesn't it? Yeah. It does feel good to feel good. Won't have it but we love Zoran Good doesn't it? Yeah, good to feel good. It was just all my good feelings were I didn't realize there I was reading so many takes from people who are like, you know, a lot of leftist progressive have been just sort of conditioned into believing Something like this was basically beyond reach like a wind like that And I think that's why I was so this whole process like is it okay? Is this for real? Surely is this gonna get fucking destroyed right? Because that's what always happens every time this thing happens and we think oh We're moving forward are we?

Their inner voice is Natasha Leoni by the way I could not believe it and I refused to believe it until he started talking. Like until he gave his speech. Like I was like, okay, this could happen. I might have to go back. I used to live in Astoria and I left in 2016 and I'm like, do I need to go back? Is that what is happening?

Do I need to feel this? Yeah. Oh man. Thank you guys for having me. I love the show,? Yeah. Oh man. Thank you guys for having me. I love the show. Big fan. Oh, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah. Insane.

But we're thrilled to have you. How could you like this show? You should talk to a therapist about liking the show. No, that's very nice to hear. And we're very happy to have you. Very flattered. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

We are going to talk about Zoran's success and how the New York Times is dealing with it. Because that's mainly what I'm worried about. How are they going to hang in there with this? How are they going to keep it together? How are they going to keep it together? We'll talk about that. We will talk about just what the latest in the world of AI. We've got a federal judge siding with an AI company in a copyright case and all of that,

plenty more. But first, Zell, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Ninja rocks. Do you guys know what ninja rocks are? No. Is this like pipe rock theory? Yeah.

So- What's opposite of pipe? Rock? Rock. Yeah, crack rock. No, it's like pipe rock theory. Yeah. So, uh, what's opposite of pipe rock. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, scared because these like chicken shits have no problem adding vehicular assaults to like the crimes they're already doing of like kidnapping and disappearing people. And then I remembered or I started to remember something from my teenage years, which I definitely never ever experimented with by the train tracks in Fresno, California, called Ninja Rocks. And basically, it's this thing that I need to stress is wildly illegal if you are caught having them everybody needs to understand that but if the choices between getting hit by a car and spraying

Autoglass in the face of the Gestapo if you take the ceramic from a spark plug Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, The colloquial term for that is Ninja rocks. And I was thinking one day, like, what was that thing I was really fascinated by as a teenager that would make like auto glass explode? And I'm just like, at some point, the fact that we have allowed the federal government to allow mass people to just grab folks on the street,

compared to maybe just having something in case you happen to run into a car. Cause like, I, you know, I also have lived in Los Angeles this entire time during the hellscape, we've all survived somehow, some way guys. And it's been weird to just be riding my bike through a perfectly fine neighborhood, but also have a national conversation

about how it's falling apart, which is not true. So like, I think we all need to be looking at alternatives for in case a car happens to decide our human life has no value. Just saying. Yeah. What are the options? I see a lot of people, they're also saying you should throw glitter on them. Glitter is more legal because they can't get it off. They go with glitter. Uh, I've also seen, you know, people being like, how do you make spike strips?

I can read that kind of search term pop up. And this is just a podcast where we talk about what is trending in the zeitgeist. And we're just talking about what's trending. We're just talking about, we're just talking to talk. We're identifying trends and sharing those trends. Well, the other thing I see too is like a lot of times you see people really like pull their cars around like these masked goons, whoever the fuck they are and like try and block them in.

But then someone comes out with like a machine gun and tells them to back up. I'm like, you just be like parking their car and taking the keys out and just splitting being like, all right. Yeah, I'm right. This RAV4. But yeah, it's it's it's truly wild. Like just so many moments you see people who are like in total disbelief that they are this is like the interaction that they're having. But it's, yeah, this is just the norm now. And now they're using facial recognition.

Like the the stuff that you like when you enter the country and they take a photo of you, they're you they're accessing that database now to face like use facial recognition to like identify people that are getting in the way or harassing the goons. It's really fucking dark out there. So have you guys heard? I am new to Ninja Rocks and I do just wanna, we'll link off to this Reddit demonstration

of what they are because just Googling it and your description of it, I thought I had a sense of what it was, but I thought it was big. No, no, no, no, no. I what it was, but I thought it was like big. No, no, no. I thought it was like, I thought it was like, oh, a rock, like a ninja star that's like a full rock

and there's like little points going everywhere. No, it's like literally like little shards that come off of a spark plug. And then- Again, illegal to have in your pocket in case this cop stop you, I wanna stress that. But when you throw just a tiny little thing at the glass, the glass shatter. Yeah.

And again, I feel like better than getting hit by a car. And it's harder. Like, again, you can't really Google it. It's not that easy to find other than on the Reddit. You can find YouTube. Because I actually could not remember. I thought they were called Ninja Rocks. And I was like, I think that's the thing I actually could not remember I thought I thought they were called ninja rocks And I was like I think that's the thing I came up with when I was a kid because I like ninja turtles or something

And then it turns out no the Was ninja rocks. I just like Wikipedia. There's a post from the American Ceramic Society and it said video ninja rocks exploit ceramics dark side Oh Ninja rocks exploit ceramics dark side Oh the hidden side of ceramic your mother never told you this in pottery class exactly. Yeah Zell what some of you things underrated? Cerise castle, I think you're in mine So I think Cerise's LA's best journalist like working right now She was a guest on my podcast, The Inner Cities,

and we did it on YouTube, and it's the first time we did that, and it worked out really well. But like, Cerise has this ability to find local LA stories that have impact nationally. And I think she's prominently known for exposing Sheriff Games back in 2021 with her piece on LA Taco.

She has now moved to a new group called Capital in Maine, and she has been following the story of A.B. Hernandez. A.B. Hernandez is a student athlete who has been targeted by their own school superintendent for being trans. And she has been performing very, very well, but she's also being beaten by other young women who have identified as women since birth. So just proving that there's really no case here. And she's having

adults who have no children in the school whatsoever come to her meets and harass her. And she was also targeted by President Trump and a true social statement, which I think again, Cerise is like, Cerise has been on top of stories that have such deep resonance and that you may not even be realizing is happening in your community. And I just love her death. So check out Cerise, follow her on everything, follow any journalist she suggests to follow because I gotta be honest with you,

also doing a podcast where we talk about the news, I basically stopped looking at American journalism when it comes to stories about American mainstream. I go to the guardian. I go to like Lamont cause it's a little French. Uh, but when it comes to, yeah, like when it comes to stories, I'm looking directly at the intercept, I'm looking like occasionally wired, wired still good, but like it's hard.

So you gotta support these for media. Yeah. Yeah. Theresa's the these. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Theresa's the best. Yeah. Just like hyper local, like deep reporting on stories. And so fucking just so devoted to truth

and speaking truth to power and at any, I mean like just thinking of the, like the harassment she was getting after the LASD gangs thing and just does not stop her. I don't know if she ever said this publicly. She had to hire a bodyguard during that time. Yeah, we heard about that. Yeah.

Yeah. Like it's crazy. She's the best. She's amazing. Totally. What is something you think's overrated? Unions that don't support other unions. And this one might get me in trouble.

So, uh, this spring, the writers guild of America, which I've been part of since 2014, their staff voted to unionize and I am very thrilled for them. I was a Writers Guild captain during the strike in 2023, the entire time. We could not have won that without the staff. I don't know if people realized it. It wasn't just writers out there. The administrators of the staff, the lawyers of the staff, the accountants of the staff,

they were all there setting up our pickets and managing them for us and occasionally like dealing with like emergency response in instances. So they are amazing. They were the backbone of the strike. When the staff decided to organize, they were met with what I would consider to be a little more resistance

than I would hope from another union. And it was really disappointing. The most upsetting thing of this is that the WGA fired a labor organizer named Fatima Moreta. And Fatima was an organizer for LA hotels before she came to us to help out. And she really did this groundwork to make it more than just like TV writers demanding more money. We were picketing and marching with hotel workers in this town and we showed up at their rallies. It was really, really amazing. And I felt really for the first time, particularly being like a working class kid whose mom had a union job. And that's

the only reason I was able to go to college and become a writer from Fresno, which I feel like people don't understand how far that is from LA, even though it's not really that far from LA. It's very far from LA. I felt a kinship and a community that I have not really felt all the time. Without being in the actual thing, in the actual Writers Guild staff union, which is what it's called, the Writers Guild staff union, I don't know what happened. They said they let her go from cause,

but the union itself is asking the Writers Guild to reinstate Fatima, and I really support this. I really, really am saddened that this has been the reaction of the Writers Guild, because I showed up at 3 a.m. for pickets because my union asked me to. When I was harassed by studio lots during this picket, because I showed up at 3 a.m. for pickets because my union asked me to. When I was harassed by studio lots during this picket, I still showed up.

When I was sometimes harassed by WGA members who didn't like me asking them to not get hit by a car, I still showed up. And I will always have more solidarity with Fatima, who is an immigrant, who worked for working class people in this town, than I ever will the white millionaires who are constantly giving speeches and telling me what to do that time.

I'm really upset. If I could give a piece of action to Zeitgang, go to their Instagram, the WGA staff union Instagram, and just follow them and say congratulations. That's all you have to do. If you are a WGA member, and this is the first time you're hearing about this, you need to ask your captain why this happened

and let them know that it upsets you, because she was an amazing labor organizer, and it's really, really sad what the guilds do. They're not even talking about it. They said she was fired for cause, and I know enough people in the staff to know that that's not a good enough answer is all I will say. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. So the staff of the guild. The people who work for the union. Yeah, newly formed in April. They fired her the day before they announced their formation, which is sus. Writers Guild Staff Union is what you should look for on Instagram. Just follow them. And if you're in the Guild, be nice. Be nice about asking the question.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And yeah, so I just I just want to read the headline. And then the sort of subhead from the New York Times on Zorin's mayoral win, primary win, said, Mondani success and mayoral primary reverberates beyond New York City. Yeah, that makes sense.

Feeling it here in LA. Yeah. And then as Zoran Mondani pledges major changes after his apparent primary win, national Democrats are looking for lessons and Republicans see a new political target. That's how you know he's doing the right thing. That's the headline that you would have if the Democrats, like that sounds like it's bad news for the Democrats. The Democrats are looking for answers or lessons. I mean, it is bad news.

The Republicans are licking their chops. It's bad news for them because he's showing that, like, if you actually give people what they want, they will vote for you. And now the Democrats are going to have to do that for shade. What? What? I didn't read the article when they say they're looking for lessons. Did they mean that to say this is potentially a new path for Democrats? Like they can learn from this or they're like, how did they fuck up and not added to Cuomo, not win lessons? It's a little bit of that. I mean, there's there's a lot of donors this or they're like, how did they fuck up and not added to Cuomo not win lessons?

It's a little bit of that. I mean, there's a lot of donors in there who are like, well, we're just gonna have to solidify behind Mayor Eric Adams now. And then there's one donor who said, I feel like people misunderstood my $250,000 for Cuomo for real enthusiasm. It was basically, oh, looks like Cuomo's coming back. We don't want to be shut out. Let's try and get on his good side. I wish I had $250,000 I could spend unenthusiastically. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, don't mix that up for enthusiasm. That's just a cool quarter million just to keep my name a little just in the conversation. That's it. Don't take that for anything else. I don't want to be shut out. But yeah, I mean, it was that or another house

that I could flip. So I just decided I'd one less flippable house. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I already have five of those. Yeah. But it's just, I don't know, it seems like so much of the democratic establishment is powered by either people voting for them or donating to them because that's who they think always wins and they're like the lesser of two evils. That's really like how, where their power comes from and their brand is currently catastrophic failure to do the obvious thing they needed to do to win. Yes. That's what the last big moment they had is giving.

Well, they have to let them fail so that in nine months, then they can say, look how they failed and we'll all be dead, but they can say that. Right. Look how we killed our base. Whoops. It's really giving Nico the Luca trade. You back up and then Nico. What the Democrats did in

the 2024 election where they came in, had a little spark at the start, and we're going to call them weird. We're going to talk about price gouging and shit like that. And then immediately started like tacking, right. And just ignoring what everybody in their base like knew they should do is like, yeah, it's, it's giving Nico like 98% of their fans and supporters would have done a better job than they just did.

And it was like a highly public, highly consequential series of decisions that they just failed at in a way that we were like, well, that seems wrong, like over and over repeatedly. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes. And it's the same thing they did in 2020. I won't, I'm still upset about March, 2020 when Bernie was doing okay.

And then like Amy Klobuchar and Buttigieg and everybody was just like, oh shit, let's just jump behind the centrist. And it's them attacking what their voters actually want. Like they, it's, we're never going to freaking learn this lesson of doing slow fascism is what I think the Democrats are pitching to us. Cause it's like, they keep saying like, oh, democracy is in danger.

We have to do things that like actually energize people. And then Zoran comes out here and is like, I'm a freezer rent. I'm actually going to do some price controls for food. I'm not saying you got to shop at the NYC grocery store. There will be stores. Shop at the green room. Do it. I don't care.

I'm going to make buses fast and free. None of this is bad. The fact that the Democrats, which is supposed to be the opposition party, have, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, I think, a couple, like right after the election, finally said, like, I'm going to sit down and talk to this Zoran Mahtab.

Really? Really? Like a year into his, or two years into him running for this seat, you finally decided that you're going to you're going to stand for the guy who is not the sexual predator you're going to stand for the guy who was not killing people's grandmas and like It's I'm still trying to understand why Andrew Cuomo thought he could come back because it's like that was three years ago dog Like some of us have like kovat brain, but not that I remember my grandma that you did The established I mean, I think all these establishment Democrats, whether they're like part of the infrastructure of the party or the

politicians themselves, they just think it's, it's still 1998 or some shit. Like their thinking is stuck there and they don't even see like what the, um, what the consequences are of them constantly knocking back a perceived leftist or hyper-progress, ultra-left wing policy in favor for something that looks more like 2004 Republicans. I feel like their pitch is, fascism you can sleep through. He's like, change that you can believe in.

They're like, I think we want the fascism you can sleep through. I think that's what people prefer. They've been doing it for a decade now. It's brunch fascism is what you can get. That's pretty what. Some people are insulated enough that they're fine with a world like that, but the majority of us that live in this country are absolutely not. I think they don't realize that every time they knock one of these policies back,

they're saying, fuck you to all the people that stood to benefit from that policy They don't realize that but when they say every time they don't take action on police brutality and shit like that. They lose people Okay, every time they've pump faked codifying row they lose people every time they don't take aggressive action to fight corporate greed They lose people every time they don't they fucking fail the dreamers. They lose people every time they don't take aggressive action to fight corporate greed. They lose people every time they don't. They fucking fail the dreamers. They lose people. So how the fuck do they think they're going to get them back by being like, well, we're going to do some really cheeky rezoning to help some.

You know, this luxury condo will have 14 affordable units within it. Like at a time and place of our choosing. That's the summary of it just being like, we're going to do that at a time and place of our choosing. That's the summary of it just being like, we're gonna do that at a time and place of our choosing. Yeah. And also, I don't think they realize, because again, so much of the power in the Democratic Party is either old or is capitulating to the old,

i.e. Hakeem Jeffries. And it's just like, they don't realize the word socialism is not, it's not 1958. Like't realize the word socialism is not it's not 1958 like kids aren't scared of that like 1958 I mean they talk like it's 1958. I mean like yeah day after not even a day after he wins It's just like this could be a 9-eleven in New York. It's gonna be his fault. It's like yeah, okay first of all whatever I don't know where to begin with that but like like, Oh, cause it was Giuliani's fault too. Is that the line? Or you're just really saying because he's a Muslim that that's that that equals

9 11. Okay, cool. Yeah. You're, you're naked Islamophobia also ain't hit. Yeah. But like, I don't think, I don't think my niece, I have a five sister, so I have a billion nieces and nephews. Uh, I don't think these kids, like they're not even kids anymore, most of them are young adults, but like, socialism is not a scary thing to them. Like a lot of them, they grew up in a world where they could see a kid in a country

that had like socialist leaders, and they're fine, they're perfectly fine. Anne Hildago, I'm a big fan of France, I talk about it way too much, as my friend tell me, but like the mayor of France is a socialist. And honestly, yeah, Anne Hildago, she's this amazing socialist who has been pushing through like things like making France even more,

sorry, mayor, I said mayor of France, forgive me. Don't judge me French people. Okay, I was for a second, I was like, we're sounding real American right now. I know, I'm so ashamed, Miles. Oh God, you have no idea how deeply you cut me by pointing that out. The mayor of Paris.

I was confused, because I was willing to be like, oh, maybe this is just a position I didn't know about. No, no, no, no, no, I wish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, I don't wish, but like, Anne Hildago, the mayor of Paris, specifically the city of Paris, which is not France, I know that French people, forgive me,

is a socialist and has been making the city bikeable and walkable. And guess what? She's not the most leftist party in the country. There are wonderful things that can happen if your party makes their core, we actually want to distribute wealth and resources. And younger people know that.

And frankly, I think they, I think they finally understand that we've been conning them this whole time with this idea that like America just is the best. It's like, no, we can, I got, I got fucking tech talk. Like I can see people going to like on vacation for months. Yeah. And that's what China wants. That's why they're undermining us. That's how they, that's how they win. America is like a, like a, like a ultra sports car from the eighties, but every year you get further from the eighties, the more it looks like shit. Right.

I mean, and you're like, Oh, I don't know, bro. I'm pulling up in that. It looks fucking weird now. And people are like, Hey man, it's a Ferrari or whatever. It's a DeLorean. These things could really go for like 15 seconds. But like what Zorin is even, you know, a lot, his policies aren't necessarily like capital S socialism either.

Like these are things like that you would have seen FDR like get behind. It's like, Hey man, we got to make some food affordable. How about we expand the ability for people to take care of their kids? And, you know, but these, again, these are things that are just straight to the point because he's consistent around the concept of shit costs too much. And we need to do something that the people will actually feel like when you say it, they go, ah, yes, that rather than bureaucratic, like wonk talk. And they're like, oh, great.

A three point, the 3% like what? Like you start talking shit like that. People don't understand free buses. Yes. Right. Price controlled supermarket. Great. Yeah.

You know, free things for, for new parents. How dare you. Yeah. But that's why I think it's so dangerous. So difficult for the mainstream media to deal with is just the one thing that they had that the Democrats had was the idea that they were the one thing that they had, that the Democrats had, was the idea that they were the path, like they were the practical path. Like socialism is nice in theory, you can't win elections. It scares people. And then, you know, like...

People wildly vote for it. Yeah, and then everybody votes for it. for it. I think now they're like, well, you can't actually do it. But I just want to read this other quote from the article. But with Democrats shut out of power in Washington and focused on taking back the House next year, it remains unclear how closely senior lawmakers will embrace Mr.

Mamdani as they try to flip battleground districts where his far left stances might alienate voters. There it is. Of course, no acknowledgement that this very publication where this is being written was saying this very same thing about his policies in New York City. Right. They were like, New York is tacked right,

and traditionally, they've been open to voting for Democrats and Republicans. Also, this is said elsewhere in the article. It is the fucking capital of capitalism. It is the capital of capitalism. They just voted for a socialist and they're like, well, that couldn't work anywhere else. Also, that it couldn't work there.

Oh, as far as I know, those people don't have those people don't eat food or have babies to take care of in those battleground states. So I don't know if these policies will fucking appeal like are you be for real? Yeah. Where is this place they're talking about? Because like I will. Okay. Granted again, I come from Fresno, California.

It's a very conservative part of California They may be they may still be afraid of like the term socialism But if you just talk to people about like yo, do you want your house to be like less expensive, right? They're down Would you would you like eggs to just be a normal fucking price again? Yes, absolutely down for it Like do you have a problem giving a new mother some supplies to get started with? No. What kind of monster would, no one is against these policies. They're against the fear mongering that you do around it. They're against this idea that somehow raising the tax on the wealthiest people in your town is going to impact most people when in

actuality, if you go back to when you keep talking about what America was great, those people would have been paying like 50% taxes. Yeah. I mean, like, and then I think people, people are beginning to realize that like all the fear around, you know, wealth, like progressive taxes on the wealthy, they're, they're ambiently getting all that fear from the media that they fund. It means like at a certain point, it's actually like,

do I know somebody who's actually get fucked over by these progressive wealth taxes? No, actually, I stand to benefit from all these other policies. So this is a decent thing. There's also like the amount of just bed pissing from the Democratic consultant class is so telling that I think that they are, I think they do see that they are losing their grip a bit like on the party and because this is where it's getting real like we've been saying since the election, like the next fight for the Democrats is who is going to be at the wheel of this party? Is it going to be the progressives?

Is it going to be where all this energy is right now, Or are they going to do everything they can to just rest control again and drag this thing to the right? This one strategist told a political quote, it is extremely alarming that the only candidates who genuinely excite our voters are the ones making absolutely insane promises on politically toxic positions. That's their take on what has just happened. That's how they're trying to spin that is that like this is all fucking stupid. It's quote, leaving us in the spot of trying to execute on bad policy and losing terribly or failing to keep our promises and reinforcing the idea that all politics is bullshit. Yeah, okay. Okay. So again, I think we're saying all of their reflexive habits of just spending money on studies and going for superficial deregulation and like zoning reform is just not working anymore. And I think this must be this feels kind of like probably what never Trumpers were thinking when Trump stepped on the scene in 2015 that words like they did fucking everything. They're like, bro, get this guy out of here. He's done know what the fuck time it is. Like we have our own neocon shit that we're on that. We're really we've protected this thing.

We have all the money. We control the media. Let's see if we can get this guy out the box, but they fucking couldn't they could not they couldn't and he's still fucking one and I think he just again, he had an appeal sadly to the voters that felt like the party wasn't really following through on their like racial grievances. And Trump was there for that. And they're like, Yeah, you know, that's

kind of what I'm kind of what I've been missing, really. And in this in this end with mum, Donnie, he's appealing to the voters who are fucking sick and tired of the Democrats just failing to deliver and just talking around things getting better. And they don't realize that that's what's happening. It's like the shit gets hollowed out and somebody's offering what you want. They're all going to move this way now.

So and there and again, you look at all the money they spent trying to smear mom, Donnie, like all the those fucked up attack ads trying to paint him as a terrorist and shit and he's still fucking one. And I think again, there's I think I think they're starting to be like, fuck man, like, but we don't do stuff that's going against the status quo. We're the constant gardeners of the status quo.

And he won by getting people to go out again. Like, can we just acknowledge that the big factor of the last presidential election was a lot of people just did not want to vote because you gave them the choice between the crazy guy that they had experienced already and somebody who was doing a Fucking whistle-stop tour with Liz Cheney like right you we need to excite people. Yeah Yeah, they were like, you know, what would be a good idea is if we ran against Trump with Something that is as close to Jeb Bush as possible,

the person that he beat in the very first place to make it clear to everybody. Yeah, please clap. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to add, did you guys see Bill Ackman's like, uh, uh, frantic midnight tweet? I, I w I heard about people were saying him and Elon's, uh, tweets were real something that night of the the primary what it what was his I? so it's it's

Again, he's not I'm not saying bill acme is a part of the Democratic Party I am saying he's one of these people who would literally give money to anyone who would stop a progressive from doing anything But like he literally said I woke up in the morning gravely concerned about New York City I thought what has New York City become that it avowed, an avowed socialist has supported, who supported defunding the police whose solution to lowering food prices is city-owned supermarkets, who doesn't understand that freezing the rent will only reduce the supply of housing, who has no experience managing organizations, let alone a city of a hundred million, hundred billion dollar budget and two trillion dollar economy and who believes that chance of Globalizing the intifada are acceptable wins the Democratic primary and it's just like

Every time I see something like that, by the way, that's the first paragraph of I don't even know how Yeah, yeah, but like he is looking literally for anyone to run against him and basically saying, I will fucking destroy democracy in the city of New York before I allow these people to have a progressive leader. Right. And... Because they see what time it is. Yeah, absolutely.

And my big fear and concern, and I'm sure there are smarter people working with Zoran who have thought about this, is that the mainstream establishment, Democratic Party, having the chance to get like Bill Eichmann money will trade the city of New York for that money. And that is what I think we all need to be looking out for. Because if we don't, if I'm judging the Democratic Party for the for the next election based on how strongly they support Zora Han going out Because like the man did it he did it. He fought he fought an established Democratic machine legacy Nepo, baby, he fought the billionaires were giving him money He fought the the general racism of America and he got people to show up and if you can't get behind that I

Don't even know if this country even has an opposition party to the Republic America and he got people to show up and if you can't get behind that I don't even know if this country even has an opposition party to the Republicans anymore. And I mean that's where I think talk like serious talk has to be about like where where does this energy go because it can't be put but they can't be trusted with the Democrats at all. Yeah. I mean it has to right like the Democrats just need to fucking step up because yeah, and good luck. But again, the thing is, right there, all of these this donor class, the consultant class, they see that all this energy is coming from young people, normal people who aren't

wealthy and are starting to realize, bro, this this inequality is fucked up. And for them, they're like, shit, man, they're fucking realizing. They're catching on. That we're fucking drink, we've been drinking their fucking milkshake for centuries now, and they're getting behind policies that are actually going to address that.

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and declared that artificial intelligence developers can train models using published books without authors consent. Cool. It's thoroughly transformative, exceedingly transformative is what the judge said. I haven't looked into is this judge like, is this judge an AI? Are they funded by the decision filed Monday in US District Court for the Northern District of California?

Yeah. What's up in Northern California? Is there anything? I don't know. It's like one of them valleys, the silicon one or something. But the suit was brought by several authors who didn't grant permission for their books to be used to train AI models.

The judge was like, that's tough shit, I guess. Right. Yeah. Some people have pointed out, there are some limits to this, but it does create a precedent for courts to favor AI companies over individuals in AI copyright disputes. Obviously, AI companies pretty well funded, as far as I can tell. Yeah. Sure, the precedent is there. But I think a lot of

people are saying like, that doesn't mean every, every court will follow suit. But it, but it does. I mean, there is a precedent now. But I think, yeah, this is just, you know, the slow, slow creep to I think, like the large, the biggest thing for me, and you hear a lot of people, a lot of creative people and artists talk about this in different ways is like, how, it's not just like that the works can be used to just make AI slob, that it can slowly erode our like humanity and our will to create things from our own minds. You know what I mean? And having these tools like that, I'm sure obviously, I think the people who are compelled to create will always do that. I'm sure, obviously, I think the people who are compelled to create will always do that. But broadly, if it becomes so easy, and I just typed the words in and now here's a video

of the Pope making a pizza out of a bed sheet or whatever, you're like, this is really going to have- That actually sounds so sick. Look, I just did the prompt on anthropic. It was pretty cool. But I just want to say is I can really see how this really disincentivizes just even like the learning of an artistic skill when things become created so like out of thin air so easily.

And I think that's just like kind of the freaky part I think about all the time. What does that mean? Like when anyone can do everything, not to say that that's a bad thing, but what does that mean for the process of creating things? I think you have hit on that, because we talked about this during the strike all the time,

because AI was kind of new in the conversation, and we were like, what if they replace us? And then we started seeing what AI made, and it was like, well, this is dog shit. Yeah, this is some shit. And it'll get better, I'm sure, as it steals from more people. But at its core, there's this thing that I don't think people are really thinking about.

I don't want to hear what a computer has to say about being a black man in America. Miles, I don't know about you. But... I'm open. Let's see where they're going with this. Let's see where this racist thing might be going with this thing. It's going to make like people engage with art because it resonates with them and Generally people want to feel a human connection to the source of the art I am sorry if you you might be able to trick people into thinking that you know, oh

able to trick people into thinking that, you know, oh, let's, let's, let's pretend that like fucking centers was made by AI. Ryan's been lying to us this whole time, right? And we, and we saw this, this movie that was created by AI. Once you realize that people not only, not only do people lose engagement with the art and with what they create But it loses its place in the in the zeitgeist Yeah, that is that is what this and this is what you cannot teach a lot of these like tech bros and executives That's what art is is that at its core is it is a thing that connects with people like Barbie is America's most if you really think about it Barbies, Barbie's one of America's most absurdist films, when you think about it. It is about a doll who lives in an existence

and then somehow magically transfers into reality and has to deal with the oppressive force of misogyny. Like, that is a crazy concept. And the thing that makes it work is the connection that everyone feels to having struggled against that. And I'm, you know, again, I'm a writer. I obviously have a stake in this,

but like, I think that as you go farther down this, it's going to, there's gonna be, we're already seeing like fewer and fewer returns from AI. Like people know what AI slop is if you're under the age of 50 And you care and they don't like it. Like people are actively rejecting it. Also, it's fucking boiling our fucking ocean I was listening to some track online and I was like what the fuck is this kind of freaky sample They got come to find out. It's this French guy who just like cooks up AI

samples and then like flips them they don't really describe themselves as an artist but for me I immediately was like oh yeah all right like whatever like it just like it gets like to your point I'm like oh this was so much more impressive when you when you because again someone who makes music you like you know the time it takes to find a sample, to mess with it, to alter it, to be something new. And it's just like, oh no, I just do this to kind of find weird stuff and I make other things.

I don't know, it just completely took the enjoyment out of it for me. So yeah, it's true. You want to connect to another person's creative process through enjoying their art. Yeah, I feel like people mainly use it as like this, look how like weird and like bad this shit is. Like that's the one place I've seen people be like, the hallucination is the point kind of, like when the computer gets really weird and you feel like you're looking at someone's brain melting,

like that's the only good thing. But that's such a good point. That always feels like it's just like when someone's like playing a guitar and like shredding the street, you know Like it's just it's like the fun of it is it being used against its purpose The most popular AI is AI that looks like shit so we can laugh at it. Yeah Always what it is. Yeah. All right. Well, they'll again. Sorry for the the truncated runtime That is my fault, but it's been a true thrill having you

and we can't wait to have you back. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? You can go to the Inner Cities podcast wherever you get podcasts. We started doing a video podcast as well. You can go to youtube.com slash at the inner cities and you can see the interview I did with Therese.

And I'm Azell will on most things I have a website called a Zell will calm my blue sky and my IG are a Zell will and Oh, yeah, you can find me on twitch And I'm actually starting to do this experiment of writing plays live if you want to see a playwright struggle Writing plays live on Tuesday nights, and then other times on on Trich getting my ass beat in street fighter six So you can see that as well. So What do you mean? Oh, oh Akki

Akki is the best and anybody punk the god has said a lot of shit about akki You need to stop talking about my girl. You're mad because you know, she's good punk. I respect you. Don't don't come at me. I'm sorry If you know the fgc if you know the fighting game community, I respect you. Don't don't come at me. I'm sorry. If you know the FGC, if you know the fighting game community, I just stepped to a person I should not and I already regret it. I am the J Cole of this right now. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. Punk, please leave me alone.

A lot of people were pressuring me to have that response and it was misguided. Yeah. Please don't please don't blame me, Kendrick. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Duster on hbo max there's a new show by jj abrams and la toya morgan that I cannot understand why nobody's talking about Like it's or I mean, I know there's a lot of stuff going on, but it's like they have a very very Beautiful looking high quality show that stars uh, rachel hilson Good Wife and Josh Holloway from Lost.

Yeah. Sawyer. And the national goddamn treasure. Sawyer back. Yeah. The national treasure that is Keith David and his buttery smooth voice. The show is about a black female FBI agent trying to take down a black crime family in Arizona and it's set in the 70s.

Like I said, it's got a great soundtrack. It looks really good. The violence is really over the top and fun, but it's a really good show and it's got a great soundtrack. It looks really good. The violence is really over the top and fun. But it's just, it's a really good show. And it's one of these shows where, particularly as somebody who works in this industry, I don't know how marketing decides to market things. I think it has something to do with like,

it came out sort of towards the tail end of the Last of Us season two. So I think they were just like pumping all their money into Pedro, which I get. Like, it's a good show. It's fun. Watch Duster. I started watching, is it a pretty JJ Abrams the show? It's a JJ Abrams the show. It's a good time show

It is not like I don't think you're gonna sit and watch be like it's not the bear Like you're not gonna have like an emotional journey with Duster But that's why I watch dusters cuz like it's fun. You get to see cool 70 shit and again like soundtrack is It's perfect. It's great. Oh, yeah miles. Where can people find you? Is there working media? You've been enjoying Yes find us everywhere on or find me. I was about to do the ending of mad boosties Jack I gotta get that out of me. I gotta get that out of me. You can find me everywhere Yes, I know I know But you can also find us in the final

series finale episode of miles and jackout mad boosties, we wrap up the NBA finals and cry and beg the NBA not to stop the show but it and also if you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance, you can find me over there at 420 day fiance, some works of media I like here's some posts that I enjoyed on blue ski. The first one is at firefox.com just said to close one's tab is to admit you were never truly committed to the journey and I kind of feel like that is kind of the hesitation I have sometimes when I'm closing a tab. At clhubes.beastguy.social posted,

"'Cris-Cross' applesauce is the best woke rebrand of all time. So catchy, caught on immediately. A plus woke work, y'all." Really well done. Yeah, Ashwin, and my last one, ashwinrodriguez.com. Muslim guy, "'What if a poor person could buy vegetables?'

Reasonable New Yorker. I am moving to a whites only compound 1140 miles away from here as soon as possible. Please invite me onto the television to say this again. They will be. They will be on TV. That's America.

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And there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, this is straight out of Georgia, Eddie Nine V, amazing soul, blues, funk kind of singer, musician, this track that I will recommend

called Love Moves Slow, it feels like this could have been like an Algreen track or an Isley Brothers track like the production the the aesthetic like it's so So on point for that era, but it's it's now baby. It's it's modern music So this is a fantastic track Eddie 9b love moves slow Alright, we will link off to that in the footnotes for the daily zeitgeist is a production of I heart radio for more podcasts From my heart radio visit the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows That's gonna do it for us this week. Yep. We are back on Monday to tell you what was trending and On Saturday, we do a little greatest hits of the week

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