The Daily Zeitgeist - WAGyu Beef, Laws = LOLs 10.10.19

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

In episode 492, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Private Parts Unknown co-host Sofiya Alexandra to discuss activists helming ICE agents quit and find new jobs, the existential threat we are c...urrently in with the Trump impeachment inquiry, income inequality being at record levels, some footy drama, more Menghazi allegations against Matt Lauer and James Franco, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. Activists Entice ICE Agents to Quit by Finding Them New Jobs2. White House says it will not cooperate with House impeachment inquiry; Democrats subpoena State Dept. official3. Americaā€™s greedy and unpatriotic millionaires and billionaires4. Extreme poverty in America: read the UN special monitor's report5. Historical Highest Marginal Income Tax Rates6. Coleen Rooney accuses Rebekah Vardy of leaking stories to Sun7. Ronan Farrow Book Alleges Matt Lauer Raped NBC News Colleague8. 2 Women Say James Francoā€™s Acting School Sexually Exploited Them9. Zero stars: is James Franco's starry Zeroville the worst film of 2019?10. WATCH: Skatt Bros ~ Walk The Night 1979 Disco Purrfection Version Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Kiss me on the Daily Zeitgeist ED Out on a Tuscan tour Spliff in your open hand Strike up the match And pop up the gems That we ride out on
Starting point is 00:03:06 Boom, boom So kiss me Thank you to Tyler Olten for that one. Sixpence sounds richer. If you remember, there's a cool YouTube video called Kiz Me, K-E-Y-S, and it's from a Filipino talent show where a woman is trying to sing
Starting point is 00:03:26 Kiss Me, but the lyrics are a little bit different. Wait, Kizmi? Kizmi. Rather than Kiss Me, it's like very phonetically heard through someone who speaks Tagalog. And then at the last part, she's like, Make the fireflies dance, Sylvie Moose is Barkley.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Rather than Silver Moon Sparkling, it's Sylvie Moose Barkley. It's way better. It's way better. It's actually amazing. And she does it well. Anyway, he's me, YouTube. Everything's a YouTube video.
Starting point is 00:03:53 What are the actual lyrics to that? I don't know. Who cares? Beneath the milky twilight? Yeah. For my research for my AKA, I was looking at what the lyrics are actually to Informer, and I was way off. I mean, I guess I always...
Starting point is 00:04:14 In my mind, Informer. That's how I'm going to go on the whale. I likey boom boom now. And no one knows the parts between Informer and whale likey boom boom down. Yeah. Try to sing it with the lyrics then. Boom Down. Yeah. Try to sing it with the lyrics then. What are the actions? Try to sing it. Informer,
Starting point is 00:04:29 you know, say daddy, me, snow, me, I go playing. Licky Boom Boom Down. Detective Mayer, say daddy, me, snow, me, stab someone down the lane. Alright, Justin Trudeau. Licky Boom Boom Down. This is gonna be my new ringer. Like, that doesn't even...
Starting point is 00:04:47 What is that? I don't know. Anybody who understands patois, let me know. What's he really saying? Was Snow Jamaican? No, he was Canadian. And his last name? O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Snow Brian? Yeah. Wow. Is he your Brian? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Is he your brother? Yes. Kiss me. This is my way of coming out with that information.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Kiss me is, oh, kiss me beneath the milky twilight. Lead me out on the moonlit floor. Lift your open hand. Strike up the band and make the fireflies dance. Silver moon sparkling. So kiss me. So kiss me. Not Sylvie Moose Barkley.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Again, those are better. Shout out to charles barkley uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented comedian and podcast host sophia alexandra So... Cancel me. She's so far above me. Sophia, how you been? I've been great. I'm so excited to be back. It's great to have you back here on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You've been coming in for another show. That's right. That's in Cooking in the Lab. Cooking in the Lab. Cooking in the Lab for so long. It's a stew at this point. We're just going to drop 60 episodes when it comes out. A 420-day fiance.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Worry not, listeners. This show is real. It is fully cooked. This is the problem, though. At this level, you're dealing with high-level contracts, palace intrigue, and things like that. Yeah. And when this shit comes out. There's been a couple stabbings.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah, there's been a few. Not going to lie. I mean, all I have to say is I'm a tough negotiator. Yeah. Ukrainians apparently aren't easy to deal with. Don't fuck around. Yeah. Don't fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:06:28 If you want me to do a chill podcast about weed and 90 Fiance, I'm not the one. Don't play. I don't play that. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about today. to tell our listeners uh what we're talking about today we're going to talk about uh how people are working with slash against uh border patrol agents to try and fuck that agency up a little bit uh we're going to check in with just the latest uh kind of a more taking a step back hundred thousand
Starting point is 00:07:01 foot view of the whistleblower story uh we're gonna look at inequality in america and then we're gonna have a long overdue update uh of menka uh because we got some new texture on the matt lauer uh allegations and j Franco allegations. So we're going to look at some of that. All of that and some footie drama. Footie drama. As my mom has wrote. We love it, man. But first, Sophia, we'd like to ask our guest,
Starting point is 00:07:34 what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So I just went to Mexico City with my podcasting partner, Courtney Kosak, for our podcast, Private Parts Unknown. And it struck me that I might want to get a tattoo for every city we go to for the pod. Do you have tattoos? Tattoos. Yeah, I have four tattoos.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Four tattoos. They're real small. They're more like tatties. Tatties. They're little guys. Just little tatties. But yeah, so I was thinking what would be a good way. Taddies. Okay. Little Taddies. But yeah, so I was thinking
Starting point is 00:08:06 what would be a good way? I don't want to do like flags or whatever. yeah. So I was thinking like, what if I do a flower? And then I'm like, but then I would get it
Starting point is 00:08:15 for the country because the city doesn't have a flower. So then I Googled National Flower of Mexico. It's the Dahlia. What's the Dahlia? Oh,
Starting point is 00:08:23 Dahlia. Dahlia, They have like a lot of petals. Yeah, they're really pretty. They almost look like what's that? Almost like sunflowers but a different color than a sunflower. They're pink. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. This thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's trippy. Looks like an Ikea lamp. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, I was like, should I get a Dahlia tattoo that was my last i didn't know anything about the dahlia other than the black dahlia murder yeah and then i finally saw one uh at a farmer's market and they're really pretty bought some for our house got a lot of compliments on them they're a pretty flower jack that is the cutest story they're real real pretty apparently there's a lot of our guests really felt welcomed the aroma i would say was very pleasing
Starting point is 00:09:14 and it complimented my throat yeah jack you have no idea goes along with the color story yeah sort of having here uh what is something you think is overrated? CBD oil. What? I was just told to use it to... Everybody says to use it for everything. Literally, I want to believe in it because I love the idea of it. But every time I give it to anyone
Starting point is 00:09:39 or try it for anything, that shit does not work. Like my mom was having pains and I bought her this fucking fancy CBD emu cream. They they're like it's made with emu fat it penetrates deeper they're like here it's a million dollars i was like all right it's for my mom right i'm like did it do anything she's like no anytime i'm like oh people are like yeah it helps with anxiety i'm like you should try it and they're like no it's, I don't really know what the fuck it does do. Well, I think the most effective case for it was with anti-seizure applications.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Because I remember that was like one of the big things where there were children who- I saw that video too. Well, not even the video. I mean, it was like a whole thing. No, but there's like a bunch of videos that have gone viral showing of people putting CBD oil on like the feet, the bottoms of the feet of people who are having seizures and of people putting CBD oil on like the feet bottoms of the feet of people who are having seizures and it helping and stuff on the bottoms of their feet. Yeah. And I've heard that it helps in like Parkinson's and my husband's dad has Parkinson's.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So we've been I've been giving him all the CBD and that shit does not do anything for your point being that CBD like people are constantly like, oh, have you tried CBD oil? Just in conversation. And that's rarely a illness or like a malady that people are bringing up conversationally. Like, man, I keep having these seizures. I don't know what to do. Like to add more. And I'm not saying it doesn't work for anything. I'm just saying, I don't think it works for most of the things we're trying to use it for casually being like, oh yeah, try for any of the 10 things that are wrong with you. Yeah, well people love it, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:12 because there's so many CBD drinks everywhere too. How many of these do I have to drink to catch the spirit? Is that what you take medicine for? To catch the spirit? To catch the spirit, yeah. Everybody knows that.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Everybody knows from my praise band I was in called Catch the Spirit. Yeah, yeah. They were great. You love to wear white linen when you perform. It's so beautiful. Well, it's about purity, and it's about talking about coming to Jesus in the purest form as possible. I've only ever seen you as God's virgin. Has that white linen shirt ever been buttoned up? No. No, it didn't seem like it.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Well, you know, it depends on how I'm feeling. Right. That's how he gets new additions to the church. Yeah. That's how I bring him in. Yeah. But only those who are pure of heart. And he will find a gust or a fan or something just so that I can blow him behind him a little bit. If they just want to say,
Starting point is 00:12:03 who's the king of the jungle? Who's the king of the sea? Bubble just want to say, Who's the king of the jungle? Who's the king of the sea? Who's the king of the universe? And who's the king of me? His name is J-E-S-U-S. What? Wow. Let him know.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Catch the spirit. That's the kind of jams we were rocking out to. Yeah, that was definitely a jam what is something you think is underrated so um well what i think is underrated is um jungle pussy jungle pussy underrated artist yeah ah okay and um to make a point i'm just gonna say two of my favorite lines one is like Rihanna forehead bitch you gotta think big hilarious
Starting point is 00:12:51 and um Papa Plan B stop the family your father not cute that is the funniest shit of all time that's really good she got a new album yet? Out? No, but I stay rocking
Starting point is 00:13:07 to the old shit. Yeah, yeah. Okay. She's kind of young. Well, younger than us. Everyone's younger than us these days. Grumpity Grump. Am I right, brother? Am I right? She also has that great song, Traitor Joe,
Starting point is 00:13:23 where she's like, we don't fuck, he just picked me up from Trader Joe. Carry all my groceries and lick on all my toes. Like, yes, girl. Get it. You freak. Also, I hope putting some of that Speculoos cookie butter on your feet.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Thank you. He's into pizza. We all have that relationship in our life, don't we? What? The traitor, Joe? To suck on your toes? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 For sure. Our grocery ride. That's how I get to the grocery store. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? So here's something that I thought before going to Mexico City. I thought that because Mexico is such a Catholic country, that Mexico City probably wouldn't be a good place to be queer.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And I was totally wrong. Really? I met a bunch of trans people, a bunch of genderqueer people, and they feel super safe living there. And one of the really interesting ways that they put it, they're like, you know, family is really big here. So if you say no to someone in your family because of like their orientation, then like it's really hard to cut off like a part of yourself like that.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So sometimes people still do do it. It's not that there aren't any religious people. Sure, sure. orientation then like it's really hard to cut off like a part of yourself like that so sometimes people still do do it's not that there aren't any religious people sure sure but i think because family is so important people love each other so much it's actually general progress has like created a yeah of acceptance yeah and i thought that was really cool and um i mean progressive as fuck and the artists are doing really interesting stuff. I talked to like a performance artist who like does stuff where she puts like lipstick on her body and then has people rub it off. And she's like, it's, you know, it hurts my body and like it leaves a mark. And like, that's what patriarchy is.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And she's just fucking dope. And so all these, yeah, Mexico City is just insanely interesting. So many artists are like flocking down there too. Yeah. So I definitely know it's got a scene. Is there any Mexico City Zeitgang? Let us know. If there are.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Holler. Maybe you can show me. Maybe there's a lot. Maybe we should do a show down there. You should. Meco de Efe, as I learned to call it in Espanol. Oh, pardon me, sir. How long were you guys down there?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Pretty short, like a long weekend. Like Friday to Monday night. Oh, shit. A little quick weekend warrior. Yeah, but I mean, we did a shit ton of stuff in that time. And now we can't wait to come back. And we met so many interesting people that are like, oh, yeah, I'm a pleasure activist. I work with sex workers. We're like, everybody we're meeting is the
Starting point is 00:16:07 fucking coolest person ever. Dang. Do you feel like you were in a particularly progressive pocket or you feel like they were kind of talking about overall Mexican culture? Well, I think because of what we do for the podcast and when we were looking for people to interview, we specifically are like, who has interesting love and sexuality stories in Mexico City?
Starting point is 00:16:31 So, and then because of who our friends are and who their friends are, I think you kind of, a little bit self-selecting. Right. You know, because we are progressive people and, you know, we have friends that are trans and non-binary and artists, like that's who our friends are going to introduce us to.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So I feel like that's true. But we ask them on their own, yeah, what's it like? And I mean, I talked to a 21-year-old who has a girlfriend and she's totally cool with him just cross-dressing. And that's all he wants to do. And his point of view on it was like, I never understood how women felt until I was dressed
Starting point is 00:17:07 as a woman and got treated as a woman. And it's just a real like mind blowing I'm like that's the most progressive shit
Starting point is 00:17:13 I've ever heard. This 21 year old is like schooling me. So yeah. Dang these kids everyone's younger than us. And so much cooler than us.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Fuck. We're like old fucking phones that will not boot up with the new. We're flip phones. fuck we're like old fucking phones that will not boot up yeah we're like uh there's no pictures on this thing snake i'm interested like that'll be interesting to see on your podcast as you like look at different cultures which because i i wonder how much of america is unique Like America, because it is this culture that doesn't really have a history,
Starting point is 00:17:51 like a long history. I feel like there's more of a tendency towards extreme religion and also like not having like strong family, I guess. Strong family values. I think those ties typically come from people who like migrate to this country. Exactly. Like you're bringing those here.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And that's sort of like what the, you know, the melting pot. Right. As Alexei de Tocqueville famously said. Oh, and that's one thing that also people kept telling us. They're like, you know, this is a true melting pot of like three different cultures. Yeah. And they're like in a lot of places you know um doesn't happen what happened here and the tour guy put it like this he's like everybody came here and
Starting point is 00:18:29 everybody fucked each other right he's like it's a true melting pot yeah like you know everybody's kind of tied into everybody else and the history is very deep and um and you know all the food they're like oh this is from this country this is from this country this is how this got incorporated and it's it is a true melting pot it was pretty pretty insane and it's one of the biggest cities in the world i think second biggest maybe right it's enormous huge uh awesome well uh where can people hear hear about that um private parts unknown we're on a pleasure podcast network. Pleasure. All right. Let's talk about something slightly positive to start things off because I came in today. Really, really bleak, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Storm cloud. His hair was a storm cloud. So let's talk about something that somebody is doing that seems like a good idea using kindness constructively well you know i we talked a few weeks ago maybe a month or two ago about that new york times piece that was a profile on cb cbp not cbd customs and border patrol agents to sort of get a general take on like what it's like there where many people like it's fucking terrible it's a terrible place to work as a woman. There are many people who are just fucking terrible people. There are also people who are there who hate the fact that this is their job.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Have they tried CBD oil? I don't know. Because I feel like that would maybe help some of the things we're talking about. It's worth noting. It's worth noting. Right. And also just the idea that there are people where the morale is just so low because, like, they go to work and they have to interact with children who are just crying for their parents and things like that. And psychologically, that's taking a toll.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And then, you know, a lot of it we were also talking about. Most of us sort of the idea is like, man, these people are fucking they suck or whatever. Why can't they just do something else and then you know we talked about how you can't not many people just have the ability to fucking quit a job because they're philosophically opposed to it because the way this system is set up you must work to live and if you're not working then you could perish quite quickly or your life your living situation could turn very dark very quickly so the never again action group their immigrant rights group that's spearheaded by a lot of jewish activists about this idea of like not separating families you know akin to the holocaust um they were really trying to figure out because they do a lot of activities outside of ice facilities and things
Starting point is 00:20:56 like that a lot of the people around were thinking like it's not a lot of the times they chant quit your job quit your job and then we're kind of realizing like, that's just kind of not enough either. So on Monday- It's sort of dismissive to the people themselves. Yeah, yeah. So on Monday, they were thinking like, okay, what can we actually do? So they launched a website that would match ICE agents with confidential career advisors like you would in college- That's amazing. To try and find a way for you to get another job so you can fucking quit this disastrous, evil organization.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And they said from that launch, two people immediately hit them up. From outside the Atlanta area where they were first trying to get people to sort of notice this project. But they said, yeah, those people who came out were just immediately like, yeah, I don't want to be, I absolutely do not want to work here anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And the comment that one of the people left who was interacting with the website confidentially said something like, I'm drowning in this place. So I think there is this idea that we think that every person that works there is just an automaton who's hellbent on doing harm. And I think there are some people who are. on who's hell bent on doing harm. And I think there are some people who are, but there are very much also people who, you know, like we were saying to like border patrol in certain areas is a very quick ticket to meet the middle to a middle-class lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Like with very, like you could just have a high school education and start making, you know, decent money. So, you know, shout out to them for using, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:20 sensible tactics. Because again, I think one thing we've learned throughout this whole week is that money fucking makes everything move. Values, they don't matter. Because at the end of the day, nothing works without money. I also just want to say that I think
Starting point is 00:22:36 the way that becoming complicit and evil works is it happens kind of in a certain way slowly, but then you're like what the fuck sure right and i think you know it just it does you're mentioning the holocaust like totally makes you think about the germans that lived in nazi germany that weren't like gung-ho nazis but then right we're also caught there and i don't think anybody came and was like hey this this is your ticket out of the nazi party or whatever yeah one Unless it was like be a defector or something and a conspirator and be executed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So, and I feel like giving these people a way to leave something that is like, so, I mean, someone making you complicit in evil is fucked up. So giving someone a way out, I think is like actually a real way to work at the problem as opposed to just be like, this is fucked up. Well, I mean, it definitely helps weaken that agency. But I think, yeah, the real solutions have to come from further up. But I think that's where we're at least acknowledging the humanity of people who are in a situation they probably also don't want to be in. Right. And that there are people like that.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Again, and they're also evil fucking monsters. Sure, of course. Who are out here getting off on watching children cry yeah or who are when journalists come in be like oh so you write fake news oh right so you write for the fake news why don't you admit no propaganda propaganda yeah you have to admit that that's what you do and you won't and you'll get your passport back yeah it's like i'm sorry i happened a journalist named ben watson uh i think at LAX or maybe JFK. I hear some propaganda.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Suck my shit. Yeah, that is some propaganda for sure. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
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Starting point is 00:28:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back, and it's time to sort of check in with the whistleblower. Ongoing Ukraine saga. Was it?
Starting point is 00:28:30 It was. That's fucking dope. Did you have a flashback to when you had alarms? Yeah. Well, no, on my phone. Oh, just in general, that was always your alarm tone? That's my alarm. Even right now?
Starting point is 00:28:39 No, now it's no diggity, no doubt. Oh, something a little bit easier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the beginning part. The whistle does make you feel in a good mood, though. When you wake up? Like, right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Does it? I've noticed when I used to wake up to an alarm, the song that would wake me up was ruined because I hated my alarm. Because you were mad at it? Yeah. That's a whole other show. What were you saying about our constitutional democracy
Starting point is 00:29:00 falling apart? Yeah, so. Oh, right. No, I'm just kidding. I feel like we need to take a step back like i you know just kind of through osmosis taking in like what the media is saying right now it seems like they're treating this like another trump scandal sort of rather than we've we're crossing the rubicon right rather than this is like even even on the left the democrats are treating it like i mean this is we've only had
Starting point is 00:29:28 three four impeachments three impeachments in the history of the country i don't i don't even think that's giving it the product like i think this is outside of u.s history like you can't judge it on the continuum of u.s history because that's not who this is. This is a dictator trying to sweep to power and end the country as we know it, and he's not going to stop until he's done that or he's in prison. It doesn't matter. I know a lot of people are just like it's really easy to underrate him or just be like, ah, he's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:30:05 But whether he's just exactly the right type of idiot for this moment or he's a genius, he's effective at what he's doing. And it seems I just got the feeling in the past 24 hours like he's successfully weathering the fact that he admitted to cheating on an election that's currently going on and that's like so stark like that's that's the whole thing that's the whole system like and and the things that are supposed to the things that are supposed to check him are the media and Congress. And he's basically rendered them moot at this point. And we're still,
Starting point is 00:30:51 I feel like we're still treating like that. That's what seems different this time to me is Congress just has proven like there, there's nothing that can be done. Well, right. Because we're, we're up against somebody who literally doesn't give a fuck about the law.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Right. Like in that letter, right, where he was like telling Congress, he's like, I'm not fucking with this. Like literally was like, I'm not really feeling this. So go on. Like I'm not going to do anything. Right. And the way the language that's being used, right, characterizing like the impeachment thing he's calling in that letter, right, says never before in our history has the House of Representatives under the control of either political party taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue. So that is saying I'm diametrically opposed to a constitutionally sanctioned ability or power granted to the congress and then saying
Starting point is 00:31:48 then to try and spin this as overturning the election is another thing like we're going into we're not actually acknowledging what's happening it's all trying to obscure what's actually going on and it's kind of like that idea i always bring up this same thing from history of like when the vikings pulled up to continental europe yeah they were used to just smashing motherfuckers and taking their shit yeah and they came to europe and they saw fucking monasteries and shit where there was a lot of money gold or whatever that were being protected by monks who were like relying on people's faith or fear of god right to deter people from going into the fucking places and stealing everything and smashing shit up.
Starting point is 00:32:29 The Vikings pulled up. They don't have that context. They said, this is it? Yeah. Watch me smash the fuck out of y'all and take this shit. And that's where we're like, what the fuck? People used to have the fear of God in them. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And now we are fully in this mode now where other people might have been like, oh, shit, okay, a subpoena. I should probably follow that because, you know, the law. He's not going to respond to that stuff. I don't have a solution other than that everybody needs to start taking it way more seriously and recognize it as the existential threat that it is. But he's told us who he is. He's a dictator.
Starting point is 00:33:09 We're going to, if he gets away with this, we're going to be letting him get away with being a dictator. We haven't had one of those in American history. The precedent is other dictators and how their regime started in other countries. That's who he wants to be. That's who our institutions are letting him be, or not trying to let him be, but the media, the mainstream media, he's basically invalidated them with the whole multi-year fake news thing. Electoral
Starting point is 00:33:41 politics, he's invalidating by being able to use the powers of the presidency to cheat on the election and the other branches of government. They're just not holding up. And we keep expecting them to come in and prove we're different from history and we're different from those other countries that became dictatorships and that doesn't seem to be happening like that there needs to be a change in order for that to happen because otherwise like that's he's not going to go away if he gets away with this he's not going away next year and i don't think he's going away five years from now if he's still alive i think think he's going to, you know, the more we let him act like a dictator who gets to strong arm everyone and every institution, the more, the more rope he's going to take, the more he's going to do that. And the harder he's going to be to get away to get out of the office. I think the hard thing is hearing, you know, Republicans, or at least Lindsey Graham being like, I'm trying to get all the Republicans to sign a letter in the Senate basically saying we won't, we absolutely won't take this seriously in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I think we also need to really, really begin looking more critically. I mean, not that people aren't already, but also looking at who exactly is enabling this too. Because as much as we focus on like, why is Trump doing this why is this all this other shit happening to we should be probably demonstrating in front of the offices in front of these Senate Republicans because these are the people who truly are allowing this to happen they're sort of saying well this is my team I'm because we've gone into such our own corners and to such an extent where we're over not allowing ourselves or they are not allowing themselves to see the threat that this person poses uh we need
Starting point is 00:35:32 to begin to hold their feet to the fire too and i think that's something that's actually missing a lot of the reporting is like oh my god the can can you believe the justice department doing this and this blah blah it's like well hold. What about the senators who are like just standing idly by and creating this atmosphere for Trump to flourish in too. And I think that's another point of rot that has to be addressed. And a little bit more like emphasis on that too, because, you know, this is happening everywhere in the world right now too. There are many countries at the same time who are being like
Starting point is 00:36:06 we're pushing back against the corruption we're seeing it's happening in puerto rico it's happening in ukraine it's happening in fucking bolivia it's happening in haiti it's happening in iraq it's happening in hong kong it's there are fucking so many places where people egypt where they're saying yo y'all are fucking us the people right what what's good here yeah and i think that's a point where i'm not sure americans are quite at that you know the the beauty of this system is that they've deceived us as voters and citizens into thinking this is the best thing that's going on and everything is pure right and now we're at that point now where all that fucking corruption and rot is we're now seeing in the form of ineffective governance, ineffective checks and balances.
Starting point is 00:36:51 The only thing they're trying to do is check their balances. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like their bank account. Exactly. But this is sort of ā€“ this is the byproduct of all of this now. And we're actually ā€“ I don't know what could i don't know what kind of sea change could happen among american people yeah because i think we're in more
Starting point is 00:37:09 danger than the mainstream like sort of assumption on either side seems to realize we are well because i think the democrats seem to be like oh okay you're gonna really just uh fucking say not not onto this right but then so what? It's like, yes. Then they did. Now what? I just don't think, I mean, people say this all the time about the Democrats, like not enough backbone. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But I'm guessing this is the part now. What remedies do we have within our constitution to have a, how do you swing back on this? Right. Because what, how do you answer illegality with what? More illegality with what more illegality yeah because the the i mean really the only shot we have or people are thinking is like well we'll just have to sue and then the supreme court will ultimately decide but do we really have faith in these people
Starting point is 00:37:57 because we've seen over the you know last few decades that just become a fucking you know the the coaching staff for the new corporatocracy. Like, yeah, get our people who, you know, vote in our favor there. Yep. Right. So I don't know. It does seem bleak. But then I'm curious, as we say with money, what happens when the money gets weird?
Starting point is 00:38:19 What happens when the economy does really terribly? Because already the deficit's up, 68 percent then when trump took office yeah the farm bailout is already twice the auto bailout but i mean i don't think we can count on the recession to come save us like no that's what i'm saying i don't know and also remember how easy it is to spin like shit it doesn't really matter what the facts are to this administration the people right no but but that's what they get sold you know what i mean so it's like uh just because Like shit. It doesn't really matter what the facts are to this administration. To the people, right? No, but that's what they get sold. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:59 So it's like just because Obama, when he was in office, reduced unemployment and did so well for the economy and it transferred over to Trump's term doesn't mean that Trump is good for the economy. But they will spin it like that for no but i'm not but i'm saying this is the same thing that if it starts failing they can be like well we're dealing with the democratic policies still from obama that's really what the problem is but i'm not talking about how you spin the recession to voters i'm talking about the moneyed class in this country that are truly at the levers of power the people who are like yeah let me get those tax cuts the people who are like, yeah, let me get those tax cuts. The people who are really pillaging the country. And I think there's a lot at stake for those people too, because at the end of the day, their God is money. We saw that with the NBA. We see that with other video game companies,
Starting point is 00:39:34 all the China stuff that's going on. No one wants to threaten their revenue streams. So I'm curious if at a certain point, those have been the moments where people have been like, oh, this trade war is fucking us up. What are we going to do? Is there a point where that moneyed banking class, the investment bankers of the world, the corporations of the world, it becomes untenable for them? It seems like everything he does ends up actually benefiting the very very wealthiest and most powerful people like yeah it's
Starting point is 00:40:08 fucking the farmers but it's not necessarily fucking people who are viewing things from like a macroeconomic level and just kind of looking at america as an economic competitor to china like they're that's sort of how he's viewing it too. And his tax cut is bad for the overall economy, but it's good for the wealthiest, like the absolute, the 40 wealthiest households in America. So it seems like, I don't know. I did hear a political scientist talk about how he thinks that the only thing that people were reacting to in past impeachments was the economy. So like Clinton, we look back and we're like, people just didn't care about the sexual mores. But when you actually asked them about that people were like not happy with clinton but they were just the economy was moving in the right direction and so they their opinion
Starting point is 00:41:12 basically followed the economy and the economy is doing well right now so he doesn't see opinion changing on this story unless the economy starts going in the shitter. And I guess it's debatable whether the economy is doing well, but his take is that the stock market and shit like that. Whereas Nixon, his big public opinion turnabout actually happened right as the economy was hitting the shitter. So those things need to, to i guess align with one another uh in order for something to to change is his theory right it's also that everything's been at an 11 for like a couple of years right so people have run out of outrage and like i'm definitely not the first
Starting point is 00:42:01 person to say that but people i don't know how you get people interested in the like increasingly horrible dictator moves that are happening in this country sense of proportion anymore because we've spent the last year, you know, being told everything is life and death. And, you know, because it kind of is. But he just has a tendency to just take up all the oxygen in the news cycle. And so it's it is exhausting. And so it is exhausting. And we've talked before, just from a historical perspective, how in the early 30s when the Nazis swept to power and we're doing all this outrageous stuff, all the headlines were about that. But by the time they started the Holocaust and started invading other countries, none of the headlines in Germany or in even surrounding countries were about that because people were just fucking tired of it. They resigned to the fact that that's what it was. And it was just years and years of reading those headlines and you can only write the same story.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's almost like a hack in the time space continuum where it's just like, yeah, just keep doing the same shit over and over and over again. And it's sort of like Trump's thing where he accuses his enemy of the thing that he has done bad so that when they find out what he's done bad, there's just people have already heard that word a hundred times and it's just kind of losing all meaning. Yeah. I mean, I think the one thing I can feel somewhat good about is that some of the other cases that are floating through the courts are absolutely not going Trump's way. And they're, they are getting orders on certain things to do, you know, like right now there's
Starting point is 00:43:56 this whole idea of them trying to keep the, some of the grand jury material from the Mueller report away from Congress. And their argument was the, was asking, like, so do you think in the Watergate impeachment, they shouldn't have had this material, but like law enforcement and these other people should? And they're like, yeah, absolutely. They shouldn't have had that in the Nixon era. And the judge's response was, wow, okay. That's a very interesting argument. Right. Like, and I can't believe I'm hearing this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So I think there, because that's the thing though too when it gets to court there are moments where they are absolutely just trying to rewrite the law in a way that makes no sense because it's purely a stalling tactic it's not based in any legal argument a lot of this a lot of the stalling tactics i mean i'm sure they've they found clever ways to try and maneuver things but for the most part a lot of these things are there because they just, they're like, look, we'll just take a ridiculous take. We'll try and run out the clock. Maybe they won't be able to get a vote on impeachment till closer to the election. And then they won't take a vote because then they don't want some of the vulnerable people in the house or Senate to have to have that on their record and answer for that. There's this like, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:01 there's just a lot of bullshit. Yeah. But yeah, it's hard to know because clearly the Congress is unable to be a check on the power of the executive at this point. So I guess we'll see what the judiciary does. Right. Hopefully one of the three. But if not, I mean, I think it's true.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That's something people really do need to understand. Like what, you know, this isn't a uniquely Trump thing. This has been America since, you know, its inception of this sort of imbalance. And I think it's easier when like the times were really good in the middle of this last century up until the end of this, up until the beginning of this one. until the beginning of this one. And as people are becoming, starting to see what is really happening, you'd hope that we can tap into some kind of sense of outrage to try and restore some kind of balance. But that's why it's important to look at the kind of candidates we want to run also. Right. Because ultimately the business as usual type people who are here to be like,
Starting point is 00:46:02 oh yeah, I'm here for, you know, small government and blah, blah, blah. It blah it's like that's not clear enough and i think you're just a pod person caping for a corporatocracy like we need we need to actually put human beings back into these positions but yeah it's a fucking it's a long ass process and a terrible evolution we're having to witness in slow motion right now but you know we've successfully done long processes that got us things that we then immediately started taking for granted, but it can be done. I did want to talk really briefly, there was a chart that I was talking about earlier this week about basically the tax rate as it applies to different income groups. And it kind of shows the evolution over time. And in 1950, it goes up in an up direction. So the people who are the richest 400 households in the United
Starting point is 00:46:57 States are paying the highest tax rate. And then it just steadily goes in the opposite direction until this past year, 2018, the top 400 households are paying the lowest tax rate because of loopholes and just various things they're able to exploit. And the article that that chart appears in explains how Trump's tax cut has affected middle class and poor families, basically keeping their taxes flat. And, you know, meanwhile, wealthier families and the wealthiest families have seen just enormous returns. So it's going even more in that direction. Yeah. And this is as America is seeing, uh, wealth imbalance and income imbalance, uh,
Starting point is 00:47:55 inequality on level with like, you know, developing nations or third world countries or whatever phrase you use. And, uh, that guy, Tom Hartman is like an economist and, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:04 general take machine, uh, was talking about how there's a multimillion dollar effort through these news organizations and through Facebook to create people who are going to buy this mentality or this idea that we need wealthy people and we need to keep their taxes low and all these myths that help to keep a class of economics. Right. And all these ideas, whether it's distraction and blaming other people that keep a very large group of Americans locked into this mentality that this is fine. Like voting against your interests, that there's no such thing as voting against your interests. thing is voting against your interests. And that's a very interesting point because that is something that has been cultivated over time because these are the exact people who you can say, I know you're mad about these costs of living and these, this, this, that, and the other, but are you willing to
Starting point is 00:48:53 actually see who you're voting for and what the policies that they enact actually do to you? And then, but that's part of the, I mean, to a certain level, it's also happening on the left in terms of just sort of blindly following your side or whatever. But specifically to be like voting against your own interests like this is also a part of the grand plan as well. Yeah. And I mean, the left is growing and growing. So I don't know how much that's blindly following, you know, as much as it's just people. Well, I just mean more like there are people who are just blindly will take listen to takes of centrist or neoliberal talking points right not really begin to examine
Starting point is 00:49:29 them i think that in and of itself is a form of people just sort of droning off but then there's a very other specific brand too where it's like let's not look about let's not think about corruption or what these people were voting in what they do it's more like hey man we're just trying to make america great let's keep that shit vague. Yeah. But anyways, that chart and this op-ed is part of a review of a book called The Triumph of Injustice that is about how really wealthy people and companies have found ways to not pay taxes and how that is a huge injustice that has actual impacts on the lives of people and people's ability to live happy, healthy lives that are just not die. And I think it's being released next week, but they do have solutions in the book
Starting point is 00:50:20 that are about how to adapt the tax code. And I think some of the Democratic candidates in the 2020 election are actually adopting some of their suggestions. I think Elizabeth Warren's tax plan is actually pretty heavily influenced by these two award-winning economists. I think it's also an attitude and a mentality thing, because when we went to Helsinki for the podcast, the thing that struck us so much is that the government there invests in their citizens. They think that's one of their greatest strengths is having that and caring about their
Starting point is 00:51:00 people. So providing infrastructure to support that, not to just say that, that's how their government works. And then it's not an accident that that's considered to be the happiest country in the world. It's because they're not looking at their citizens as a piggy bank, you know, or as a resource to exploit. They're looking at their citizens as a resource, period. a resource to exploit. They're looking at their citizens as a resource, period. Right. Yeah. And I mean, I just think that it's dishonest to pretend that America isn't completely different from that and that the extremely wealthy aren't basically robbing the country blind. Right. That's what is happening. Well, if you just look, right, like even in 2014,
Starting point is 00:51:49 McDonald's workers in Denmark made $20 an hour. Right. 20 USD an hour. Yeah. And here, we're still out here trying to be like, can we get 15? Right. And if you really think of like, you know, back in probably 2008 or something in this book called Screwed about how like the middle class has been dismantled again by Tom Hartman raises this point of like, if you really actually tied CEO pay to minimum wage around the time he wrote that book, minimum wage should have been $25 an hour.
Starting point is 00:52:24 an hour. So probably now at this point, minimum wage should probably be 35 an hour. If we're talking about if it's, if we're, if the workers are going to be paid proportionally to what the CEOs, how exponential their growth is and their income, then that's what minimum wage should be. Right. And I think a lot of people don't really take into account that we are fucking getting suckered by people that are this wealthy. It like well you know if people work uh 40 hours a week you got to give them an hour lunch or something blah blah well then maybe they'll work 38 hours right you know what i mean and how these corn people cut these fucking corners at the cost of our own quality of life and i think that's really hopefully people really get in touch with the true class warfare that is actually going on in this country and a lot of the developed world. And it's tied into the healthcare system.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's tied into the schools and the prison. It's all of it. Our focus should be on how can we make our citizens the most happy and have the most enriched lives instead of how can we get the most money out of them? We don't care if they die. We don't want to take care of them. If they're're sick fuck you well because all how much is it going to
Starting point is 00:53:28 cost yeah how much is it going to cost all it comes down again right because the profits are the fucking god but the how much it's going to cost is like that's an important part of the thing is that the reason we don't have as much money to pay for these things is because the richest 1% are actually not paying their fair share, not even close to it. So this book with these two economists suggest a progressive tax code that's more in line with the tax code at the outset of America's greatest period of prosperity. The last time it was as imbalanced as it currently is was right before the Great Depression. So take that for what it is. But they just say, bring in the richest, 1% would roughly have to pay double the tax rate that they're paying now, or 60%,
Starting point is 00:54:18 which would bring in $750 billion a year or 4% of GDP, enough to pay for universal pre-K, an infrastructure program, medical research, clean energy. And yeah, they point out those are the kinds of policies that lift economic growth. Because like you said, you're treating your citizens like assets, like things to be invested in as opposed to things to be exploited. Like or barnacles that you need to scrape off the hull of the SS predatory profit. Right. SS US dollar. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:58:54 Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And, Miles, let's get right into the footie drama alert. Because I need this explained to me. It's mental right now, man. Okay. It's okay. So in the UK, they refer to the wives and girlfriends of footballers as WAGs.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Okay, that's what they call them, WAGs over there. And right now there's... What does that stand for? Wives and girlfriends. Got it. Okay. They call them that here too. Oh, did they adopt that now?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah. It's for a long time. They had a WAGs show on TLC or Bravo or something like that. Oh, really? Hey. So right now the drama is between the wives of two England strikers. Well, not anymore for Wayne Rooney. Wayne Rooney, who famously played for Manchester United. So right now the drama is between the wives of two England strikers. Well, not anymore for Wayne Rooney.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Wayne Rooney, who famously played for Manchester United and for DC United. And Jamie Vardy, who plays for Leicester City and is a very interesting character. Just some background on Jamie Vardy. Is he still good? He's all right. I mean, he's not nearly as good as the season when Lester won the league in 2015, 2016. But around this guy, he like it was kind of the dude at certain points. He had to play with an ankle ankle monitor on for some shit.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He got into. Oh, like a police ankle. Yes. Yes. Did he get it? I think it may have been drink driving or something, as they call it in the UK. Drink driving. And also Wayne Rooney. Also, he's been he's been cheating a lot on his wife,
Starting point is 01:00:27 a lot of drink driving over there too. But interesting fact about Jamie Vardy, there was a, in his book, he had like a dead leg that he couldn't get over and the physio was like, what the fuck is going on with you, bro? Like we're rehabbing, you're resting. And he found out this dude
Starting point is 01:00:41 has just been drinking a bunch of vodka. And so what he would do is he would fill up like a three liter bottle of vodka with only red and purple skittles because he liked the flavor and that was like his fucking vibe uh and he also famously would wait he would do that before playing or like i think like whenever like that was just part of his shit i mean he would drink a ton of red bull before playing um and famously took a shit while playing arsenal uh in the middle of a match wait what do you mean like on the field no no he like left i was like how come this isn't a bigger deal you shit on the field i need more another thing is he would say in the season that his team won in 2015 and 16 he
Starting point is 01:01:20 would drink basically a bottle of like half Gatorade, half port. What? Every night. That was his pre-match drink or the night before. And then the day of, he would drink a double espresso and three cans of Red Bull. Damn. Anyway, so he's on his own vibe. So back to the lecture at hand.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Red Bull is so bad for you. So Rebecca. Unless they want to sponsor us. So his wife, Rebecca Vardy and Colleen Rooney wife of Wayne Rooney are into some shit right now because Colleen Rooney
Starting point is 01:01:51 was noticing a lot of shit from her personal life was ending up in the sun the tabloid over there and couldn't understand because she had her own like private Instagram account that was only for people
Starting point is 01:02:00 she knew personally. So she was like how the fuck is shit I'm talking about on here ending up there. So she concocted a little fucking experiment to see how where the leak would go yeah so she started on her stories she blocked everyone she followed or that was following her except for one woman rebecca vardy okay and was like and for five months started putting in bullshit stories to see if any of them would end up in the sun. So she's like, oh, my basement flooded.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Or this other thing, like she went to Mexico for some kind of experimental thing where she would be able to select the gender of her child when she was pregnant. And these things made it into the sun. So then I think yesterday. Ooh, Rebecca Vardy. Yeah, she came out with it and was like, so let me gather around, kids. I've been doing this experiment because I've noticed a lot of disturbing things have been showing up in the tabloids. And for five months, I've been doing this thing. And it's Rebecca Vardy.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And her excuse. Boom. Now, I will read the defense that Rebecca Vardy tweeted out for this kind of, you know, underhandedness. She says, as I have just said to you on the phone, I wish you had called me if you thought this. I never speak to anyone about you as various journalists who have asked me to over the years can vouch for. If you thought this was happening, you could have told me
Starting point is 01:03:15 and I could have changed my passwords to see if it stopped. Over the years, various people have had access to my Insta. And just this week I found I was following people I didn't know and have never followed in my life. Stupid. I'm'm not being funny but i don't need the money what would i gain from selling stories on you i liked you a lot colleen and i'm so upset that you have chosen to do this especially when i'm heavily pregnant i'm disgusted that i'm even having to deny this you should have called me the first time this happened heartbreakbreak emoji. Yeah. Do we think? Bullshit.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I think when you start doing the, I mean, I'm starting to follow accounts I've never seen. Come on, fam. Right. It's just, you love to see it though. You really do. I like it when a juicy secret comes out like that.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Her story is that somebody broke into her account, comes out like that. Her story is that somebody broke into her account, found out about this other woman's Instagram posts by following her. So someone broke into her account
Starting point is 01:04:13 to follow someone else. I guess. And get secrets about their private life and then sold those secrets to the son. Maybe, if we're living in her world. Huh. It's a tough sell. Yeah. It's a hard
Starting point is 01:04:26 bargain. That is... No good. Yeah, I'm not buying it. Come up with a better lie, dog. Colleen. Well, the, uh, no, Colleen is the victim here. Colleen. Rebecca. You victim. Don't play the victim, Colleen. Colleen Rooney. Yo, Wayne has been doing her dirty for a long
Starting point is 01:04:42 time. Damn, man. When she was pregnant, he was, like, sleeping around on her, having, like, threesomes and shit. So she's been, she's been doing her dirty for a long time. When she was pregnant, he was sleeping around on her, having threesomes and shit. So she's been through it. His name's Wayne Rooney. This is on her. Yeah, he had terrible hair plugs. You do not marry a guy named that. I thought he was in his 50s.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You did? Yeah. Just legitimately off the photo? Based on I had seen him many years, like a decade ago. And I think it was during one of the World Cups when he was the best player on England's team. And I was like, oh, well, that guy must be very old at that time. And now he must be playing on the seniors tour or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:18 He'll be 34 this year. Yeah. He's scored some pretty wild goals in the mls uh which people tend to do when they come over from europe but um so this is like if the shack damian lillard beef were their wives yeah kind of maybe i mean and a little bit messier i don't know what their beef is to begin with really right um but i do know that there is an interesting stat for the amount of minutes wayne rooney and jamie have already played together on the pitch they never created as a goal scoring chance for the other player yeah so that's true
Starting point is 01:05:53 not a lot of harmony in that's that three lion squad that's how you know yeah that's how you know exactly right uh any thoughts on this sofia i mean just too many almost. Yeah. It's just a mess. Yeah. It's a mess. And I really don't know if Rebecca Vardy was like trying to make money or she just really hated. You know, there's got to be something else, right? Like if Rebecca Vardy really was, and I believe she probably was the one, obviously the leak. She just probably enjoyed fucking her friend over.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Was it her friend or was it one of those things where she's like like it's all because you didn't come to my baby shower type shit or like you fucking shaded me at this restaurant right it could obviously be competitively fucking the best soccer player in england well i wouldn't go that far you wouldn't no they're not oh were they ever their peaks weren't at the same time okay so it was hard like Like Jamie Vardy had his time a few years ago and Wayne Rooney had his like seven years ago. Right. So. Right, but I'm just wondering if she was like feeling.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But I guess historically, right? Like Wayne Rooney was the man. And then when Jamie Vardy had his huge season, then he became the man. So maybe since there were two mans on the block. Okay. All right. Well, shout out to them.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Shout out to them. Let's check in with the ongoing Mengazi story. We haven't checked in for a while, but Ronan Farrow's book is dropping. I love him. The 15th of October. And it's got some details in it that are horrifying. Is the book specifically about Matt Lauer?
Starting point is 01:07:27 The book's about the whole thing. What whole thing? But the whole Weinstein, Lauer. Oh, just the Me Too. Got it, got it, got it. Okay. Right. But he was the one who broke the Lauer news.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Right, right, right. And in fact, he was at NBC News when he was building the Weinstein story. And NBC News was who was trying to block the story. And there's some actual amazing quotes from the book. And on that subject, it says from this Variety article, the book paints NBC News executives as obstructive in his Weinstein investigation as Farrow amassed his reporting about Weinstein Oppenheim Noah Oppenheim who was the head of NBC News asked him like is this really worth it oh my god suggested no one knows who Weinstein is okay Farrow was eventually told to stop reporting the story because it was under review at NBC Universal this is a Steve Burke
Starting point is 01:08:23 decision it's an Andy decision. Richard Greenberg, the head of NBC News' investigative unit, told him. And so since he didn't believe NBC would ever run his story, he took it to the New Yorker and promptly won a Pulitzer. Wow. So good call on that one, dipshit. Yeah. Well, see, and again, you see the kinds of people in positions of power that keep this kind of shit in place
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah, all the people at NBC News you have someone who is being like this needs to be reported and People dragging their feet and enabling this shit. Yeah, so you love how good Ronan Farrow though is is at his job? Yes, oh, yeah, he's like a fucking hound dog. He's like, what's that the scent of injustice? But I solved it Right to the source. So what is this new Lauer? The Lauer thing basically is it's going from he was having all sorts of extramarital affairs all over the desks at NBC News to a rape allegation. The colleague that he-
Starting point is 01:09:21 He's so smug. Right. And his statement is just the smuggest shit that you've ever uh heard but so basically the colleague was drunk and they were hooking up and she said no to a certain sex act and he just went and did it anyways uh and she says first of all she was too drunk to consent and second of of all, he raped her. And his defense is like it was consensual, basically. It was consensual.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And here, let me describe in detail what sex acts we engaged in. What a dick. One of the really brutal details is that she was still at NBC News when Lauer was fired. is that she was still at NBC News when Lauer was fired, and she was made to sit in meetings where people who probably knew she was the accuser were casting doubt on her account and defending Lauer. Fuck. Yeah, NBC eventually paid her a seven-figure settlement
Starting point is 01:10:20 after putting her on medical leave and asked her to release a statement saying she was leaving to pursue other interests and that NBC News had been an example of how to properly handle sexual assault in the workplace. Oh, yeah. I think the second you enable a guy by installing trap doors in their office.
Starting point is 01:10:40 The door lock, the lock button. That's like literally some supervillain shit. Oh, yeah. That is a supervill i'm that's like literally some super villain shit oh yeah no i mean that is a super that's like no one in real life has a locking mechanism under their desk like that that's mr burns shit that's so weird and fucked up don't bring mr burns into this don't besmirch his good name don't besmirch that selfish billionaire uh we're also learning some creepy details about james franco who sort of i don't know like what happened it was it was almost like he his name got brought up at the very end when people were like all right enough with this story let's move on i don't know he spun out of that one real yeah i mean i think he also just
Starting point is 01:11:22 like dropped off the face of the earth but how But how James Franco hasn't had consequences for all the shit. He went on SNL and made fun of the fact that he was texting with that high school girl, like Instagram DMing. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Like, what are we doing? What's wrong with us?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Like, how good an actor do we think he is? Right. I don't think he's good enough to ignore him fucking underage girls like but he's got that vibe of a chill stoner and then like i've always thought that his brother dave franco was the good one and he's the fucking trash oh dave is the trash one no dave i think is the good one he's like funny and nice is i hopefully that's that holds up james is well yeah and all the stories basically because you know what he had to answer questions about the practices of his like studio and acting school basically where he was making women do a
Starting point is 01:12:10 lot of things they didn't want to in the name of like this is an acting class and I remember he was like you know like whatever I got to do like I'll do like what you know I'm this I'm not going to say sorry but I'm going to say I'll do whatever else to make amends or I'm open to hearing these women. But also the balls on him to say that that was a class. Right. No, you were auditioning women to like force them into pornography for you.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah, he had a school, an acting school that had a propensity for letting attractive women in and offered a $750 master class for sex scenes. Right. In which they had to videotape themselves simulating sex, sign away the rights to the recording. And in these acting classes, women were routinely pressured to engage in simulated sex acts that went far beyond the standards in the industry. So it wasn't like,
Starting point is 01:13:07 like there, there's no claim to what he was doing was educational. It was just, you know, him trying to get away with whatever he could and making people pay for it. That's what I was going to say. And making the women pay for their own humiliation and shit. That's so fucked up.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Right. And again, again, just that abuse of power, because that studio set up to be like, look, was gonna say and making the women pay for their own humiliation and shit that's so fucked up right and again again just that abuse of power because that studio set up to be like look we make movies so logically if you really want this we're gonna sort of leverage that to exploit your desire to succeed uh by making you self-tape these like weird videos that we own and you know the lawsuit that they're filing they not only just want like the, like they're seeking financial damages, but they want those tapes back. Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Because they don't just want this shit out there for their weird, like half-baked, like porn shit they were making. And yeah, when he went on Colbert in January of 2018, right after all of this stuff was coming out, that's, he said, again, his quote unquote apology, he said, if there's restitution to be made, I will make it. I'm here to listen and learn and change my perspective where it's off. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:15 What a fucking liar. Exactly. Then his lawyer claimed that a lot of the things that were claimed in this lawsuit had already been debunked? What the fuck does that even mean? Right, so which ones in particular? It's just like the same shit as like the Trump shit where it's just like, I mean, a lot of this stuff has already been debunked,
Starting point is 01:14:36 you know, just like throwing shit out there without like allowing people to follow up and be like, okay, can you talk about specifically what you mean by that? Right. He also directed, none of this has any bearing on culpability in any of this, but apparently he just released a movie,
Starting point is 01:14:52 his directorial debut, that if you thought you wanted to go to a film school run by him before, you would see this movie and have some second thoughts because it's being dubbed the worst film of 2019. It's based on a well-regarded novel about a guy who comes to Hollywood in 1969 and initially gets mistaken for a member of the Manson family. Good call on releasing that right after
Starting point is 01:15:18 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And apparently it's just a real piece of shit like its director. I wonder how, like if he, what else he has in like development or like production where there, people are still like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:15:34 yeah, we're still, uh, people are obviously still fucking with him. Yeah. His roast wasn't even that long ago. His comedy central roast. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like we have really all this shit out of oh yeah and the deuce i forgot he's in that show oh yeah um yeah it's it'll be i'm why the fuck is he in the deuce that's what i'm saying and that's a show about porn right yeah i mean come on dude you're just telling on yourself like louis. And he's playing twins, which is such an actorly indulgence. Oh, man. When Armie Hammer did it, though, people loved it. Yeah. In the Facebook.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Well, he was really good. The social network. As the Winklevii. Right. I mean, that and Dennis Rodman's twins movie are. Wait, no, Dennis Rodman. Oh, Double Impact? Yeah, is he a twin or...
Starting point is 01:16:27 No, I think... I can't believe you didn't bring up Full House. No, no, no, it's not... Double Impact was the one where Jean-Claude Van Damme had a twin, right? Played a twin, yes, that's right. He has a twin brother. That's right. The one...
Starting point is 01:16:41 What is the Van Damme and Dennis Rodman film? Double Play or something. Rodman was called double team don't shit don't call it a film yo i saw that shit in the theater with my dad because we were both like yo fucking dennis rodman and van damme yeah we're there uh because i think i was 13 or some shit uh it says a ci agent is interneded for failing a mission to kill an international terrorist escaping from his island exile. He teams up with a flamboyant arms dealer and sets out to find the terrorist and rescue the agent's wife and son.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Anyway, Armie Hammer and Van Damme are the only people who have pulled off the... Playing twins. Twin thing. Great. What about... What about twins playing one person? Ah, right. right ah full house that's what i'm saying that's the best and dylan and cole sprouse in big daddy oh yeah that was a
Starting point is 01:17:33 great movie oh and then you watch it now and it does not hold up yeah apologies when i said dave carter played for the toronto blues is not joe carter yeah okay look all my memory that i just didn't i wanted you to learn the lesson for yourself. Thank you. And that's why you're my father. Yes. You let me burn up in the atmosphere. That's right.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Well, Sophia, it's been so fun having you back. Thanks so much for having me. On the podcast. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at TheSophia-o-f-i-y-a and you should look out for 420 day fiance which is a podcast miles and i are swearing to you is real and we are cooking it's cooking it's cooking dude it's cooking and you can find me also uh on my podcast about love and sexuality around the world with courtneyak called Private Parts Unknown. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:18:28 So glad you asked. There is. It's a conversation. The tweet is by at Lacing It Up. Me. I need to show him he can't keep putting no effort in. I'm going distant. Him. Hey. Me. Hey, how are you? How was work? How was your weekend? How was your
Starting point is 01:18:43 brother's, girlfriend's, cousin's, co-worker? How was dinner with your mom? Does she know about me? Ha ha, JK. I don't care unless she does, does she? Miles, where can people find you? Oh, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Y'all know Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey, at 420 Day Fiance. Social accounts, we have to keep private okay because tlc does not want this show to come out look i'm gonna tell you i'm just keeping it blunt okay they don't want this show to come out because our show is unadulterated truth about 90 day fiance it's a threat we have a fucking algorithm we apply to the show to rate the performances of the people this is something very new okay no one's seen this shit before. So we have to protect ourselves legally because we feel like there's gonna be a lot of biters. Anyway, some tweets I like.
Starting point is 01:19:29 First one is from Hannah Lynn, at Hamfranny. She's quote tweeting a page six article that says, Kim Kardashian wants to invite activist Greta Thunberg for dinner. And then she says, I actually would love for Greta to look Kim in the eye and say, your entire lifestyle is a burden on the planet. And then this one is from at daemonic3.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Interviewer, can you explain this five-year gap on your resume? Me, I was vibing. Interviewer, really? Me, yeah, literally just vibing. Interviewer, under his breath, that's dope as hell. I clapped for that one. literally just vibing, interviewer under his breath, that's dope as hell. Damn. I clapped for that one. I love that one.
Starting point is 01:20:10 He was just vibing. Well, it's just the turn, you know. It's dope as hell. All right, welcome to Valsurf. A couple tweets. I've been enjoying Winsler Powers. Is that someone's real name? Tweeted Wonka. Congratulations, Charlie.
Starting point is 01:20:25 My chocolate empire is yours. Charlie, that's wondrous. Wonka, now first thing, we'll be handling this PR crisis. Charlie, wait, what? Wonka, a lot of kids just died in your factory, Charlie, and there's a rumor that you apparently own slaves? And Tomb Slate at PleaseBeGneiss, and tomeslate at please be g-n-e-i-s-s
Starting point is 01:20:47 nice tweeted medium if you're there move the glass to say something Ouija board s-o-m-e-t wife that's him yeah that's him
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Starting point is 01:21:22 Miles, what's that going to be today? Okay, I think we need some disco okay we're doing the scat brothers uh who are an la disco group i believe they formed in la um and they were kind of like the like another masculine answer to the village people and this track is called walk the night and it's fucking this shit is trailer music. This, look, if you have a very visual mind, close your eyes and just imagine any film happening to this song. It has a great thumping bass line. The song is so simple.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It's got the four on the floor drum track. So this is the Scat Brothers' Walk the Night. If you actually watch Righteous Gemstones, it was the credit music to the episode, the Easter episode. You might recognize it from there. Otherwise, look, this is just some good old-fashioned four on the floor. Get your foot pumping disco
Starting point is 01:22:11 music. Alright. Disco funk rock, I guess. Well, we are going to ride out on that disco funk rock. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, and we'll on and walk the night, hey Walk the night, hey, go on and walk the night, hey
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