The Daily Zeitgeist - Wait, Is Trump ... Racist? 1.12.18

Episode Date: January 13, 2018

In episode 63, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss Menghazi crims Steven Seagal, James Franco, plus Dan Harmon's apology to Megan Ganz, his former writer, Trump's blatant racism towards people of color, white panthers, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 13, Episode 5 of Das Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah! January 12, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Tara Jackdell. Oh, wow. That's courtesy of

Miles of Grey. And I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Grey! Hey, that's right, it's your boy chain miles gration in the building i can't be stopped i'm bringing fucking everybody with me my aunt my fucking mom my grandma my grandpa everybody's coming fuck out of here uh and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian and podcast host sarah june hello aka summer loving oh is that uh what do you mind if i ask uh yeah greece you know stand-up comedian and podcast host, Sarah June. Hello, it's me. A.K.A. Summer Lovin'.

Ooh. Is that, uh, what, do you mind if I ask, uh... Yeah, Greece? You know, June, summer. Oh! I love summer. I love Greece. The country?

Greece is the word. It's... Have you heard? The style is the place it's appealing. It's got groove. It's got meaning. Yeah. Ah, okay.

Yes. I'm savvy. Yeah. That song is, uh, the men's, the men's version, or the men's verses in that song are awfully rave-y. Oh, yeah. You didn't tell me more? Yeah. Oh, no, that is Summer Loving.

Yeah, that is Summer Loving. Yeah. Did you get very far? Did she put up a fight? Dude, but when he goes like this, when did you get very far, he's like squeezing something. It's like, I was like, even as a kid, I was like, damn. Yeah. No, when I was a kid, my kid i was like damn yeah no when i

was a kid uh my friend melissa was in a production of grease and when they did the song grease lightning um when they were like the chicks will cream i was like i'm too young for this yeah we were eight yeah right uh well you know that's the beauty of musical theater yeah sorry june what is something from your search history uh that is revealing about who That's the beauty of musical theater. The chicks of Korea. The groups of light men. Yeah. Sorry, June. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Last thing I searched was young David Attenborough. Oh.

Because somebody told me that he was hot as a young man, and it turns out they were correct. Is he? Yeah, look at that. Yeah, he's a pretty hot young guy. And all the pictures are of him caressing and feeding baby animals. Yeah. So that really ups the smoking factor. Oh, wow look at you david amber yeah he's never he's never been ripped in the way that nobody born before 1980 has ever been ripped you know what i mean like there's a modern ripped and then uh but it's also not dad bought he's just a guy

he's just a skinny guy yeah and uh he loves to sit on the beach and play with animals. It was easier to be fit back then because the food wasn't just laden with fat and bullshit. Right, and nobody went to the gym. He has an office body, but he's hanging out on the beach shirtless. That's when I get mad when I see pictures of people back in the day who you know weren't working out, but everyone's just rail thin and eating all kinds of shit. Like, wow, look what processed foods they do to us. It helped that they smoked like two packs a day.

That helped too, yeah. Right, did piles of cocaine. Okay, cool. Well, let me write that down for my new diet. I highly recommend people look at videos of people working out. Like in, I think it's like the 1920s or something. They just didn't even know how exercise worked. So they would like, they're like people standing with like a belt sander type thing. That's just like moving them,

but they're not moving it. And like, they don't know that that that's not working. They don't know they have to use a shake weight if they want to get any results. Right. Exactly. You have to simulate masturbating someone to get in shape. Yeah.

I like to pretend I'm jacking off someone behind my head in order to get their tricep workout. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated? Here's something overrated. Jack. Neo-Yokio. Hmm. It's fine.

Okay. It's fine. It's overrated. Are you saying there's too much fervor around it? There's too much fervor. It is overrated in the classical sense of like, it's good. It's not as great as everybody's been saying. It's, I mean, it's a fucking anime.

Right. It's, I don't know. Really, the most interesting thing about Neo-Yokyo is, is it an anime? Because it is American produced, right? Right, right. So does that make it technically not an anime? That's the most interesting thing about the show. Is the debate around, is it actual anime?

Right. I think that's, personally, I find that to be a very interesting question i will not uh upset your listeners with the long discussion that i've had about the subject but uh new york you're the show it's it's like pretty good oh so this seems like i feel like when when stranger things came out everyone was coming here saying that's overrated it's like look i'm not saying it's bad yeah like but people are getting way too hyped over exactly and it's not like revolutionary exactly Exactly. Gotcha. Another thing overrated that is bad, Casa Hawkins.

What is that? Casa Hawkins is a legislation in California that was passed in like 95, 96 that prohibits rent control from happening. So that means it makes it easier for landlords to up your rent and up your rent and up your rent. And it also prohibits vacancy control, which means that if a landlord has an empty apartment or unit or whatever, and nobody in the city can pay as much as they want, they don't have to lower the price.

They can just wait. They can just wait until richer people move here and fill it up. So Costa Hawkins is on the table for repeal. And yesterday there was a vote on it. And a lot of members of our state senate um voted to abstain weird yeah because they don't want to piss off real estate developers who want casa hawkins to remain in place but they also don't want uh tenants who are like i mean do you know anyone that owns a fucking house smiles uh yeah um tenants have uh had the people

power so yeah they don't want to piss off their constituents, but they also – But they don't have the lobbying power like real estate developers do. Exactly. What a conundrum they're in. Exactly. Just pull up for the people. Come on now. What's something that's underrated?

Underrated? All right, I got a secret for you guys. It's called honey on eggs. Wait, what? Yeah. You ever had an egg over easy or over medium, put it on a piece of bread, right? Crack that yolk open, get that runny, drip a little honey on there. Whoa.

Yeah. Interesting. Okay. How did you encounter this? My mom told me and some coworker or something told her. Oh, so this is recent. You didn't grow up eating this. No, no, no, no, no.

This is why I'm like, I got to come on your podcast and let the people know. Yeah. A little bit of honey on your eggs. A little bit of honey. It sounds weird. And I don't like stuff that's super sweet. So I was like, I don't know if I'm going to like it. Oh my God, it's fucking amazing, dude.

Right. It's unbelievably good. Wow. Okay. I can't believe I haven't been eating it my whole life. That's how good it is. Do we have honey in the office? Because I know we got eggs.

We need to get some. Yeah. We definitely need to get some. We might have to do that in between the break. You get a good egg. You drip a little honey on the yolk. That's the thing. On the yolk.

That's delicious. I mean, that makes sense because lots of foods, like lots of sweet foods involve eggs. And sugar. Yeah, exactly. Eggs and sugar. It's rich. It's delicious. Are the basis of all of my favorite foods.

Right. Sauces. Sauces. Sauces. Sausage. All right. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world. We talk about pop culture, the news. Eggs.

We're just trying to take eggs, honey. We're trying to take the temperature of the global shared consciousness of the human species. Miles, where are we at today? Oh, bud. It's about 43 degrees Celsius. Yeah. This is all for everybody on the metric system out there and not on Fahrenheit because we're not trying to push an agenda.

But yeah, it's about 43 degrees. Isn't that super hot? Yeah, that's like 110 degrees, my G, Fahrenheit. Because, I mean, we'll get into it. We know why we're hot in here today. Yeah. It is hot. It's hot.

And the way we like to start that out is by asking our guest, what is something that people believe, the national global shared consciousness believes to be true, that you know to be false? What is a myth? Sorry, June. A myth is that having a viral video on YouTube is fun and will help your career. Okay, yep. This is not true. I can verify this. viral video on YouTube is fun and will help your career. Okay. Yep. This is not true. I can verify this. Okay. So you had a viral, a viral hit.

I had a viral hit some years ago and I got jack shit, buddy. Oh, you mean Nyan Cat? Yeah. I mean, Nyan Cat. Yeah. People don't know that about you. Have we talked about this? I don't think so. That you are the mother of Nyan Cat?

I am. I am the godmother. Can you describe Nyan Cat? Nyan Cat is a video. You are the mother of Nyan Cat? I am the godmother. Can you describe Nyan Cat? Nyan Cat is a video.

It is a looping animated gif of a cat whose body is a Pop-Tart, sort of in an 8-bit style. It was made by an artist named Chris Torres. And then there's a song behind it that has a very long history. But, I mean, all you need to know is it's like a very annoying – Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's from a Vocaloid thing and there's all this bullshit. Anyways, I made this video. I put it on YouTube. It went viral in 2011, many, many years ago.

I mean, it's part of the internet fabric. It's a fucking classic. If I – yeah, I hate to toot my own horn. But yeah, I mean, it – I got some money out of it. I am not rich from it, as a lot of people think, because I am not the owner of the image or the song. Right. So I could not profit directly from it. Yeah.

The owner of the image can and does, and we have a contract. Oh, cool. Yes. But he doesn't make that much money from it anymore. That's true. But back in 2011, he was getting a little scratch. I mean, look, I'm looking at the stats right now, 154 million right4 million right now yeah you know what i mean that's why i have a lot of youtube subscribers right but guess what they all hate everything else i make right right they

fucking hate it's too real for them oh yeah no literally every comment i get is like needs more nyan right oh shit yeah i got some good comments for a while that were like why don't you make another nyan cat right like but with a twist, like Nyan Dog. Ooh. And I was like, people have made this. Yeah. Like, the point of a viral video is hundreds of people make their own version of it. Right.

And then you get a million versions of the thing and plays on it, right? Well, because then there's the one that's like 10 hours straight. Exactly. Yeah. You get the 10 hours straight. You get the jazz one. You get the goth one. You get like an evil one.

There's one in 4K now? I don't have to make these. Yeah. Other people make them. That's what makes it a meme. Right. It is the property of the internet. It's a collective struggle.

And in films too, they always do the premise like, oh, and then the video went viral and everything changed for this character. Right. I remember I got a video that had like over a million views and all I got was like on the local news. Yeah. Like they referenced it because it was like a slow news day and I was like oh shit okay i made it yeah biggest biggest thing i well because my name wasn't attached to it so like i'm in sort of a unique position where like it's not like a

comedy video i made went viral it's not like a a video of me performing or whatever uh it straight up was just like more abstract a random thing i threw together for my boyfriend at the time and uh it suddenly everybody's like this is so so fucking cool you know what i got a ton of 10 year olds subscribing to my youtube channel right now and they do not like the rest of my content right right how many views does it have now 154 million 154 million motherfuckers uh so yeah people who are like yeah i went viral you know what 200 000 this is what you're doing sorry at the end you're to hit people up with your Venmo. Because you know what?

We didn't have Venmo in 2011. Exactly. And people need to know. I'm telling you, I bet you every single person who listens to this has heard of Nyan Cat. Or if they saw it, they would know. I've had people tell me, that was a big part of my childhood. Okay. Well, you know what you can do?

You can give Sara June at least $1.50. My Venmo is HeySaraJune. H-E-Y-S-A-R-A-J-U-N-E. Hit her up. I would appreciate it. Yeah, the mother of Nyan Cat. Anyway, we're going to plug that at the end, too. If you think about it, like a percentage of your childhood is what your entire life is built on. So she deserves an entire portion of your entire life's earnings. Don't make $5.

Yeah, exactly. I could fucking use it right now. You know how much money I have in my bank account right now, Miles? You showed me. Do I? It was three cents. It's three cents. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

You're reimbursing me for the lift here, I hope. I know. Yeah. Good. You asked to borrow my socks. Socks are tough. We're in the double digits, baby. We're in the double digits in the old bank account.

Right. All right. We're going gonna get into the stories of the day we've got a couple mengazi updates is that what we're calling it yeah that's what we're calling it i've been calling it the weinstein affair yeah you might not have been here we started calling mengazi for a while ago uh courtesy of one of our guests yeah courtesy of one of our fans whose name is escaping me now we need to oh man you need to remember that fuck yo i'm so sorry my man i know i called it out the first time yeah uh anyway yes great a twitter user gave it to us and yeah and i think maybe the episode

you're on maybe there wasn't it was a slow mangasi day so we oh no we definitely talked about roy moore but that's not it wasn't weinstein stuff you know it wasn't mangasi it was like a whole another crock of shit right that was more yeah that's all i think but't Weinstein stuff. It wasn't Benghazi. It was like a whole other crock of shit. That was more – yeah. That's all I think. But we're past that. We're past that. We're past it and we're on to Steven Seagal is being investigated by the LAPD for allegedly raping an extra from the movie On Deadly Ground, his first movie as a director.

Fun anecdote about Steven Seagal. If you read the oral history of SNL live from New York, they talk about how he's the worst guest ever. And people are like, okay, elaborate. And they were like, he just kept insisting on

adding rape jokes. And him raping other characters into the sketches as a joke. What? So now just think about this. On Deadly Ground is his first directorial effort, first time he gets to be calling the shots. Right, right, right.

And on Saturday Night Live, he was trying to call the shots and trying to get everybody to let him enact his weird rape jokes. Wow. Do you have that anecdote about Al Franken? No. What's that? Apparently, Steven Seagal – this is in some oral history or somebody told it to me. Steven Seagal is in the writer's room. They're telling him here's the sketch.

And he's like, hey, how about at the end I grope her or something. Right, right. Just something very clearly. And then like fucking Al Franken has to be like, yeah. And then and then we'll just have you rape her on stage. How about that? And everybody's like makes fun of makes fun of Steven Seagal for proposing such an obvious rape. Like Al Franken is like, dude, that's rape.

Right. And then everyone's like, fuck off, Steven Seagal. And Steven Seagal does not understand why everyone's laughing at him. Right. He doesn't understand why pitching rape doesn't't work doesn't fly with the writers right vladimir putin yeah i mean yeah he's out there in russia so yeah he's doing his thing we'll never get him just bums me out that he's like kind of respected in japan as like an aikido like master it's kind of crazy yeah he's like oh he's legit with aikido yeah he's actually good at the or

was good at the or was good at the martial art that uh when are you guys getting him on the pod yeah we'll have to probably skype him in since he's from he's in uh moscow right he's always talking perhaps he's here right now through a bot oh shit seriously don't bring that up we already have we've already been talking about bots trying to get at us up next a section we're calling the Franco file. So we talked yesterday briefly. There are some accusations. There was a article in L.A. Times with a headline that like five different women accuse him of sexual misconduct. It seemed like there was a lot of stuff that was like weird and sort of gray area alongside stuff that was like really, really, really problematic in there. And like the article wasn't really making the distinction, which was sort of my take on it. What did you think, Sarju? I have complex feelings about this.

What did you think, Sarju? I have complex feelings about this. I know a lot of people hate James Franco, just like as an actor or whatever. I don't. I also have a weird – I'm going to get real for a sec. James Franco is from my hometown, Palo Alto, California. I don't like all of James Franco's work, but overall I really respect him. California I don't like all of James Franco's work but overall I really like respect him and um it's a weird thing uh having a guy who like is both a guy I don't know at all and is very very famous and also somebody that I consider uh personally associated with me purely because

we are from the same place but not just that it's because he talks a fucking lot about being from Palo Alto you know what I mean like nobody would care if he wrote a damn book about it he talks a fucking lot about being from Palo Alto. You know what I mean? Like nobody would care if he wrote a damn book about it. He made a movie of it. Like he really reps it. Honestly, he finds it way more interesting than I do. But I do know his family in a slight way. much harder to delight in the taking down of somebody even if they deserve it when you know their family is um getting a fallout right uh there was um nicholas gazon uh one of the like art editors of vice or art director of vice um a while back got uh me too hard like he used to

take pictures of passed out women at parties and stuff and post them on his blog. And he has a sister who is an artist that I really like. I'm a huge fan of her work. And I was just like, I feel really fucking bad for her. I feel really bad for the people that did nothing that now have to deal with their their sibling or their son or whatever. Having done something objectively really shitty. The stuff with Franco, it does sound very um like i don't know what happened i'm not gonna like draw conclusions generally like if five women are coming forward and saying

he did this thing that was inappropriate and he used like an artistic pretense to do it i believe them um knowing what to do about it is more complicated right um i don't know how to feel because there's a part of me that just doesn't want to think about it because i don't want it to be true right and i've thought about this a lot i have nightmares about actors i like being exposed for for past crimes right um just because like i mean how many you guys have gone through this right where like somebody you really like turns out to be a fucking monster and you're like, I can't enjoy your movies anymore, dude. Like just don't rape somebody so I can enjoy your fucking art.

How hard is that? Like you are, when you do shit like that, you are not only letting down all the people you work with, traumatizing individuals, but also just fucking throwing shit in your audience's face. Like I need you to be not a rapist for me to enjoy your work. Yeah. Like, let me be a fucking fan. Right.

So I hate that. And being not a rapist is the bare minimum. Oh, really? It really is. I don't need to. You don't need to be a good person. Right. Honestly, like a shitty drunk, be a shitty drunk, be like, be a method actor and a dick

to everybody. Be hard to work with. I don't fucking care. Just don't rape or murder anybody so that i can watch your movies and not have to think about that right um so yeah i mean i literally have dreams where like god i think i had a dream where stanley tucci got exposed i was like no no the two the two was loose and i was so upset because i fucking love stanley tucci and i just want to watch him and stuff and not think about the fact that he maybe like fucking took advantage of somebody we had no indication that he did no no no no this is entirely in my dreamscape right shout out to tucci main though i had a i had a dream about stanley tucci and i had a dream that

john c reilly and these are just actors i really like who have been working for a long time. And there's a chance that they did something shitty. And here's the thing. I have the privilege because James Franco did not force me to get nude for an audition. I have the privilege of preferring not to think about it. Right. How do you think these allegations stack? Because a lot of things you hear is like egregious sexual assault.

Totally, yeah. And this is like, yes, using artistic pretense to put women in positions where they might not have wanted to pose nude or like removing uh like the protective strip and like an oral that's fucked up yeah that's the one that is gross as shit yeah so that's the allegation that just got put in with a bunch of other allegations in the la times piece uh that just seemed so far and above like it's just so egregious he removed the covering because like we've we've interviewed uh actresses who have like told us like what it's like to be in a sex scene and like it's very uncomfortable it's like a very uncomfortable

experience and to like take away the thing that is like the very small thing that is like sort of well it's literally a health hazard right like that that is putting somebody's i mean to me that is the first thing that jumps out at me it's not like a fucking dental dam doesn't give you privacy it keeps you from getting an std from your scene partner right yeah yeah that is that is the bare minimum of what you as as an actor and as a director should like if you do that you're a shitty fucking director yeah you don't put your actors at risk like that i don't care what your fucking director. You don't put your actors at risk like that. I don't care what your fucking art is.

I don't care what your vision is. Like, don't do that. You are a bad director. If you put your actors in that position, you are a bad director. If you put your actors in a position where they feel like they will not be able to do an audition or a scene without exposing themselves in a way that they are uncomfortable with. If they are not right for the part, if you need somebody to get nude in your video and somebody is not comfortable with that in the audition,

you should not cast them. Right, right. There you go. You don't fucking make them do shit like that and then put them in a sex scene and remove. I mean, that's,

that's fucking, that's number one, physical assault in a crime. Yeah. It is coercion. It is using your privilege to put people in a position where they're where they're not comfortable and they're not safe and then it is using art as a as a pretext to get away with that you can be a good artist and not a fucking rapist absolutely you can just have the

scene as it was meant to be with everyone being comfortable and protected rather than like hey i'm gonna be whatever the whatever whatever was going in his fucking mind is like why he would do that. This exists. And a really great thing that I read recently on Twitter was somebody talking about – somebody was like, there are a lot of anecdotes about David Lynch on set and how great he is and how comfortable he makes his actors feel and how nice he is and how good he is to work with. how nice he is and how good he is to work with. And it just completely destroys this idea that to be an auteur, to make art that is interesting and edgy and groundbreaking, that you have to, you know, do a hundred takes and make your actors cry and,

you know, make them expose themselves in ways that they're not comfortable with, because that's underlying all of this. The reason James Franco makes art like that is because he, I mean, I do think he truly believes that this is like breaking taboos and breaking boundaries and that those are good things to have in art and i agree that's absolutely true but that does not mean putting laborers yeah which an actor is a fucking laborer and you are putting them in a position where they are in an unsafe work environment

and it's fucking unacceptable yeah you want to break boundaries, you do it with a coalition of willing people. Exactly. That's how you do it. That's how you do it above board. You don't, aha, gotcha, into being like, well, hey, we're just rebels. So, like, nah.

Yeah, and if you can't find any women to willingly do what you want to do, maybe what you want to do is really fucked up to women. That's right. Sorry, I got real mad. It's all good. That's why we're out here trying to talk about it. These are the issues.

Right. So this is what I think as far as James Franco goes is like I don't know. I don't know what goes through his head. I do see him do a lot of stuff. I mean we all know like what his career is like. We all know he likes to do a bunch of crazy shit and go to six grad programs at once or whatever the fuck this guy likes to do. at once or whatever the fuck this guy likes to do um so i i do think like that the privilege that that he has as a man and as a famous guy right he doesn't know what it's like to not be that yeah i think that's important to think about he's like oh these people consented this person

she she agreed to appear nude in my movie for less than a hundred dollars and it's like yeah dude but you don't understand that that's not normal right right i feel like he's used to women especially like just doing whatever he wants them to do right and not knowing the difference between enthusiastic consent and begrudging i really need this job right exactly yeah just because something is not illegal doesn't mean that it's not exploitative right yeah or immoral right but i can also say say I do understand how that's confusing to him. Like not to excuse it at all, but I do understand how like that's confusing to him as somebody who spends his whole life. You know, I've talked to people who said like, you know, he walks into a restaurant or something and like literally all the women like throw themselves at him. Yeah. And that's got to completely warp you.

You're gaslit at that point. Yeah. And so it's, I really see how he can say, I didn't do anything wrong and truly believe it. Right. And consider himself an ally and truly believe it. And at the same time, the women that are accusing him, I believe them as well. But I think you could tell there was an element of discomfort, even as he tried to defend

it, that I think he was processing. And even on Seth Meyers, like where he, you could kind of feel like, well, maybe if there was a thing I did wrong, like it was definitely a process. Cause that's always what happens. There's always the defense of like, well, I didn't do anything wrong. Cause of course you didn't set out to do anything malicious. And then after a bunch of people have told you, you did this thing that hurt me, then you're like, wait a second.

Did I? Did I? Right. you, you did this thing that hurt me. Then you're like, wait a second. Did I? Did I? Right. And yeah, I, I don't think the path he's going down where he says I have my, like basically he and through his lawyer are saying these women are not telling the truth. And then he's saying, but I totally believe in their ability to say this is like a little,

I don't know that. that yeah that just seems a little bit disingenuous it's fully lawyer talk and it is um it is irresponsible i think uh it is to protect him from liability and at this point i don't give a fuck about the liability of somebody who's rich like if all of these women decided to get together and sue him which i very strongly doubt they will because this is such a gray area you know like as hard as it we can't even fucking talk about it we can't even decide what the fuck it was he did you don't take that to court you have a yeah they're gonna have a dna sample like no you know how hard it is to convict rape right yeah right yeah and this all

happened a long time ago so the point is like i don't think they're gonna sue him the reason he is he is dodging liability is so he won't get sued. But fuck you. You're rich. Get sued. Right. Give your money away. That's why some people on the internet were like, okay, well then donate all your money to RAINN.

Yeah, totally. That you made from the disaster artist. You're not going to get sued from this. It will hurt your image. It will hurt your reputation. Literally the fucking least you can do is give millions of dollars away to victims of the same trauma that you caused. And I guess speaking of apologies, Dan Harmon on Harmontown apologized to the former writer on Community Megan Gans about his behavior. And it was a very interesting – it was definitely the first of its kind of someone copying to their behavior that I have seen.

Yeah. Right. I listened to that and it was very good. I was really – again, Dan Harmon is somebody who I used to be a really big fan of, and he's a very honest guy on his podcast, and sometimes that means copying to stuff that makes me hate him. Right. His apology was – it felt to me very sincere um he admitted to stuff that was like very uh very nuanced and he seemed to really understand and he said i know this because i've talked to a bunch of smart women in my life in private and figured out what

happened um that's that's all we fucking want, honestly. And it is important to point out that there was no physical assault in any of her accusations. It was that he was attracted to her and he used his position as her boss to move that forward in a way that she was not comfortable with and to show favoritism that she was very uncomfortable with. And I think that's a really important thing to number one, acknowledge. And number two, cop to like, that's not something you, I mean, it is something you go to court for. I don't know. But, um, it was a very good apology and, uh, it, it made me feel much better listening

to it. It really made me, um, feel a lot better about liking that guy's work, to be honest. Just to hear him say, these are not things that I would have done if I respected women in a fundamental way. Right. That's huge. Yeah.

It's a self-awareness, I think, that sets it apart from most other apologies. Yeah. In that way. Yeah, I think it's worth listening to. I mean, this is like Louis C.K.'s apology or acknowledgement or whatever you call it. You can't really call it an apology because he didn't say I'm sorry in the statement. But his acknowledging what he did like started down that path at least. But then it like kind of veered off and got defensive with Franco. I think like the worst part of the Louis C.K. thing, other than, you know, how horrifying it might have been for those people in that room, was that he kept saying, I don't know what they're talking about.

They're crazy for like five years. Yes. Which is just horrible. And I think like that that should be the lesson that Franco takes from Louis C.K. and Dan Harmon is like, you know, own what you did. And demonstrate that you understand why it's bad. You cannot be an ally without recognizing your complicity in this. Like to say, I did nothing. I'm a perfect guy.

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Those eggs with honey were pretty good. Delicious. So we wanted to talk about… Sweet and sloppy. Sweet and sloppy. Shithole gate we wanted to talk about sweet and sloppy, sweet and sloppy shithole gate. We wanted to talk about not sweet and sloppy, just sloppy, sloppy as fuck. Miles, he put it well this morning.

Yes, man, because shitty racist white men have become America's new greatest export. We used to fucking have people thinking America was great and i would love to live there like look at all these cool americans that we can look up to yeah exactly very cool and now when you look at mustangs cowboy oh i love marlboro cigarettes and uh you know like a mustang so you like nike shoe we have you know just looking even in the last couple weeks you have logan paul who japan is like do not come back and if you do we are fucking the police want to talk to your dumb ass. And you have Pete Hoekstra. That is how everyone should treat every YouTube star, by the way.

They should not be allowed to travel. Yeah, exactly. Do not come in here. And because that's problematic because this motherfucker is out here wilding out in Tokyo. And a lot of people in Japan are like, this is not how we want people to think they can behave in this country when the Olympics happen in two years. This is not the example that you want to see. Like, oh, yeah, we're fine with all this dumb shit. Anyway, then there's Pete Hoekstra, who's already a fucking joke with his like ignorant, you know, Islamophobic comments and, you know, in Holland and all that.

And now I didn't say that. Exactly. No, that is what we would call fake news. is what we would call fake news. And now with Trump, with him referring to people from Haiti and other African countries as shithole countries, we're at peak nobody's fucking with the U.S. Because you think already the ambassador to Panama is like, yo, I can't do this anymore.

I honestly can't even be near this thing. He resigned, right? Yeah, he's like, I cannot do this. A lot of them have. Yeah, a lot of people have. He was the latest one this morning. And then like, I cannot do this. A lot of them have. Yeah, a lot of people have. He was like the latest one this morning. And then also I think maybe it was yesterday. Like it was – we found out Trump doesn't want to go to the UK because like clearly they don't want his ass there because he's bullshit.

Honestly, I'm with him there. Fuck the UK. Oh, OK. Well, hey. It's the one thing Trump and I agree on. Well, look, my love for the English Premier League will not allow me to do that. Are you an anglophile? In a way, yes, I am.

Maybe you should watch Neo-Yokyo. Then so you also pair that with the fact that we also found out recently that like now Spain has overtaken the U.S. as the number two most visited country for like international tourists. Like now we're even seeing that people don't even want to fucking come here like to visit. And we're seeing now like this is all the fallout. Like we thought it was bad when Bush was president. You didn't want to fucking come here like to visit and we're seeing now like this is all the fallout like we thought it was bad when bush was president you didn't want to fucking go anywhere and say you're an american we may be back there where i'm gonna have to go and say that i'm from japan and i'll be like oh i'm actually from japan i look american like i'm gonna have to do that shit like i used to yeah so yes no one believes me with that shit my accent's too bad what do you mean oh like if i go to iran people are like you're american

oh let me practice my english with you right right no no i'm trying to try to try to no like right so yes and that brings us to this whole bullshit now with with shithole gate i i don't even i don't know how we want to start this because i have, I'm so, I don't know where to go. Is anyone surprised? Are you guys fucking surprised? No, we knew he was racist. That's what I mean. It's like, I'm seeing people, not like people I know, but friends of people I know being like, well, I don't know if that makes him a racist.

What the fuck? Oh, totally. No, it doesn't make him a racist. Like everything makes him a racist. Exactly. This is just one of many, many, many examples of him being a racist. He's just a drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, and he has been since 2015. Yeah.

Right. Or, I mean, since Obama. I mean, let's be— I mean, always. Yeah, always. Like, his entire fucking life. His whole life. But we wouldn't hear about it, really, since Obama took office.

Well, I think it's—again, now at this point, let's just call it what it is. This dude is a fucking straight-up racist. I don't—there's no need to be ambiguous. Like, his comments were racist. No. dude is a fucking straight up racist i don't there's no need to be ambiguous like his comments were racist no he is a racist he definitely hates non-white people yes a lot he defends white supremacists there's he has a record and i think this he wants more norwegians to move here and we have more nice people like those nice pink people from norway i mean they're pretty happy up there with their fucking 50 tax rate and one year paid maternity leave and all that shit. Look at that happiness index. Ain't nobody

coming from Scandinavia. They're loving it. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba. That tourism thing, by the way, is crazy when you think about the fact that America, like, Spain is tiny compared to Texas. And they're literally

in the middle of Catalonia trying to break away. Like, there is a lot of tension there. People are still like, hey, man, Barcelona is beautiful. Right. Exactly. Hey, have you been to Valencia? Right. Like, and now people here, they're like, no one wants to fucking come see fucking Disney

World. Dude, you try to come here and party like you would in Spain, you're going to get shot. Right. I wanted to get a statement from, so we recently had one of our all-time great guests, Edgar Montplaisir, on like a couple days ago. And we talked about him being Haitian-American and we wanted to get a statement from him. And so Anna Hosnier, super producer Anna Hosnier, you reached out to Edgar. Yeah. I sent Edgar a text asking him for a statement.

What is your official statement, sir? Yeah, that's exactly how it went down. And he responded with, can I send over my brother's statement because it's a lot better. And this is from Jonathan Monplaisir, who said we could use his name and quote him. Awesome. And I quote, my mom came here from a hashtag shithole country without, in quotes, chain migration, without any money and not speaking the language. Working, she put herself through her associates in nursing and took a job serving others. Unsatisfied, she put herself through her BSN while working and raising two kids.

Unsatisfied, she completed several postgraduate certifications to further serve her patients while working and raising two kids. Unsatisfied, she completed several postgraduate certifications to further serve her patients while working and raising children. Unsatisfied, she put herself through nurse practitioner school while raising three kids and working full time. Unsatisfied, she graduated and supervises a clinic in an underserved community. Unsatisfied, when she leaves that job, she goes to another job serving convicts in the jail system of our community. My mother came from a hashtag shithole country and she wouldn't trade it for a thing.

Hashtag Haiti. Damn. Damn. Tell them. Fuck yeah. Making this country less of a shithole. Exactly. Exactly.

And like working tirelessly to do so. Whereas Trump just, you know, gets out of bed after spending the morning tweeting and watching Fox News. The responses have been all over the place. Yeah. And then we also have Fox News's response. I think we actually have a clip from them. I think this is Jesse Waters. Yeah.

Who used to be like a Bill O'Reilly dick rider who like once they were shorthanded and so sent him out with a camera crew to Chinatown. And he was just like very. Look at all these Chinese. Yeah, he was. He was just wildly offensive. And they were like, hey, get this guy a job. So he's a professional idiot. He's like racist Tom Green.

Right. But like far, far less talented. Yeah. I mean, because look, Canadian people are amazing. And I don't think Tom Green is like a genius or anything. This guy's just...

Oh, I love Tom Green. The absence of... This guy's just the absence Do not disparage Tom Green. of talent personified. Do we have that clip? If it's true, this is how the forgotten men and women

in America talk at the bar. This is how Trump relates to people. If you're at a bar and you're in Wisconsin and you're thinking they're bringing in a bunch of Haiti people or El Salvadorians or people from Niger, this is how some people talk. Is it graceful? No. Is it polite or delicate?

Absolutely not. Is it a little offensive? Of course it is. Is it racist? Yes. But you know what? This doesn't move the needle at all. This is who Trump is.

He doesn't care. He shoots from the hip. And if he offends some people, fine. There's so many more offensive things that are happening in this world. Not from the president. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some fucking plumber at a bar who's racist.

I don't care, dude. He's not the president of the United States. Right. Our representative to the rest of the world. He's not the one that is literally in charge of maintaining relationships with other countries so that I don't get fucking nuked. Right. I think the other thing, too, is like when he says like the forgotten people. Oh, yeah.

You mean by forgotten? You know what that means? That's when history leaves you behind because you have not kept up. Like when you are so racist and you haven't caught up with the rest of society, that you forgotten because we are trying to leave that behind yeah that's not a tragedy yeah you're not that's evolution yeah exactly you're forgotten that's that's not how don't and don't try and like make it this like sort of working class argument also please do not try and spin it like america has quote forgotten about white people america will never forget about white people um these people are not a fucking oppressed minority.

But that's the sort of self-victimization mentality you need to push. Like, well, this is how the forgotten people talk. Oh, I'm sorry. This is how real people talk. You know, working class people like Donald Trump, son of a real estate developer who literally like fucking stand for the KKK. Yeah, working class people are the immigrants out here who are trying to actually make better of themselves and take the opportunities here. Anyway, let's- Inherited millions and millions of dollars.

Bailed out constantly. Yeah, created tens upon tens of failed businesses. And refers to himself as self-made because he was born a step away from home plate thinking he hit a home run. But so, I feel like all of these responses from like the Fox News of the world. It's like when Trump was defending to be exclusively white and like doing it

in a way that's just like that is the sort of thing that you would expect from like smoky back rooms like in the fucking 1920s right um so yeah i mean like just focusing on the on the language is that's ridiculous and i think people need to put more pressure on the the gop too because this is your boy and if you think you're gonna fight off a wave uh in the midterms you need to like i don't know if if they're just gonna keep sucking dick and acting like nothing's wrong keep keep doing it yeah whatever just fucking let us take over bro because this is fucking bullshit and not enough people it's interesting too how even a lot of like gop congressmen obviously doing the tightrope walk some are don't give a fucking like yeah this shit is racist he needs to apologize to everybody on earth other people like well you know

the the remarks are troubling like that's my way to not upset my Latino constituents while also not really flaming him. So my racist constituents will like vote me into reelection. And also, so maybe he'll give me a position at some point. Like maybe he'll promote me. It's it's it's crazy. And I think also, too, it's really I feel like every person who has benefited from it, like immigration in this country needs to pull the fuck up for everybody else right now, because some of us are lucky. We're already here. We already have passports. we already brought people over here yeah we're bank babies yeah there are people who are in these vulnerable groups who need to like they need to know that

there are people who support them too because it's fucking terrifying for some of these people to think oh my god like does the whole country not give a shit totally and these are the same things yo being fucking japanese people have been through it with being you know uh villainized and put into fucking camps and shit like that this cannot fucking stand you know what i mean we can't this is dangerous to not fucking call out the yo this this guy is a fucking racist this guy is a white supremacist yeah and we are and we can – It is not an exaggeration. Yeah, this is not – these are facts. I mean, yes, the climate right now is such that people who are even standing up to ICE agents are being arrested like in New York. It's not just rhetoric.

Yeah. This guy's administration is actively enforcing racists' agenda. Yeah, and they're even – ICE was raiding 7-eleven stores right to try because they said they're they're hiring illegal immigrants this is not like it must have been just like right off his desk like yeah yeah that seems like this sort of racist shit that like i don't know it is it's kind of racist shit that people in like small town america give a shit about because they're like i don't like having to see a brown person when i'm getting my slurpee we're gone beyond words now like we are we're rounding people up we are detaining people we're separating families like my god man like we are really slipping into

fucking total darkness yeah this is a hundred percent uh by by not my account by the accounts of many people that lived through it uh this is what it felt like to live in germany in the 30s right right it is leading up to something and is leading up to something large and is leading up to something international. And that's not an exaggeration. And it's very scary. Yeah. So when we were talking about people being arrested, there's immigrant rights leader Ravi Ragbir, who was arrested in Manhattan, you know, the Trump stronghold of Manhattan. And then there was a protest to, you know, protests that arrest and more like city council members were arrested at that

protest. So they're just, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it's important to that. More politicians,

they, they let it be known to their constituents that they're here for this fight too, because earlier this week there was an article about uh i think i think think progress someone they contacted all 49 members of the democratic caucus in the senate and only seven senators said they will vote against a spending bill that doesn't include a daca fix so like we're even fucking up on the basic shit we had the ability to pass a clean daca bill like we had the clout to do it. And now it's just a little worrying that we're not seeing enough people really be vocal, even about dreamers and people that are here under DACA, like to protect these people,

because I think we're missing the fundamental point. I think you're either in two schools of thought. You realize that America is the strength is in its diversity. Yeah. The reason we are an immigrant nation, yes, that we can attract very capable people to and give them the opportunity to better themselves at the benefit of the country. Or you are a person who thinks America is just for everybody who got in before, like the the south, southern Italian wave of immigrants or whatever myopic view of immigration you have in the country. If you think Italians are people of color. Right. You might be a racist. Right. Exactly. If you think Italians are people of color, you might be a racist.

Right, exactly. And I think, yeah, people need to – I don't know why because even if you look at Vicente Fox when he said, Trump, your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world. And he's like, what gives you the right to proclaim who is not and who is allowed to enter the country? Foreign leaders understand the principles that make this country great better than our own president. And I guess to clarify, what I mean is in the modern understanding of how the country is and like what makes it beautiful, as Alexei de Tocqueville would say. You know what I mean? The melting pot. Trump wants to be a fucking king.

Yeah. This country was supposed to be founded because we did not like kings. If you can find somebody closer to a fucking neo-king than Trump, show me them. I don't know anyone else that takes so many pictures in a goddamn marble and gold palace. They see themselves as aristocrats. The whole point of America was that we were supposed to fucking hate aristocrats. Right. I keep hearing this idea that like, well, it can't get any worse.

Sure can. Yeah. It can. Yeah. And I understand why people think that because it hasn't been worse than it is now. Right. And I think that's just a failure of imagination. It has been very interesting to see all my white friends enter the same cloud of general anxiety that every brown friend of mine has lived in their entire life.

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Actually, the conversation about, you know, how this is real for actual people sort of continued into our commercial break. So we wanted to, you know, continue it on mic. Sarah, you were saying? Yeah. Anna and I have had similar experiences in trying to visit Iran I was supposed to go last year for the new year in March and then the travel ban happened

and so even though technically they would have had to let me into Iran because I have an Iranian passport and technically they would have had to let me back into the US because I am a natural born US citizen with a US passport technically does not necessarily matter anymore we did not want to take the risk of going there. I mean, these are the fears.

You go there, they think you're a spy and they put you in jail. You go there, everything goes fine. On the way back from the airport, they think you're a spy and they put you in jail. Everything goes fine. You make it all the way back. And then once you get into America, they won't let you back because they think you're a spy for Iran. Or a terrorist. Or a terrorist, yeah.

I don't know. Anna, where does your family live now? My entire extended family is in Iran. And when that travel ban happened, I had like the worst week of my life because in like seven days I had a flight to go to Iran. Great timing. So I was a mess. I didn't know what to do i was constantly calling my father who was literally my dad left like the day the travel ban happened so my dad's getting on a flight like oh okay and so that's the thing i didn't know if i'd be let back

in the country and i didn't know when that was another one of my fears is when i walked into iran they would take one look at me and be like american put her in a cell. Because in Iran, they don't give a fuck. Yeah. They will put you in solitary confinement and they will not speak to you and they will not hear you out and they will not give you a lawyer and the U.S. will not come for you. Just on suspicion. Is the justice system set up that you're presumed guilty until proven guilty? Pretty much. Because that's how Japan is.

You're just guilty. Right. They don't have to prove anything. They can hold you infinitely. Honestly, it's just like here. They can hold you on suspicion of something that they do not actually have. And yeah, they don't trust Americans for good fucking reason. They don't.

There's not a lot of tourism there. Yeah. I took a flight back direct Istanbul to LAX, 13 hours. That was the most like gut wrenching flight. Like the whole time I thought I was going to walk off that flight. Someone was going to put me in cuffs and put me any like in a cell and be like, so what were you doing there? Yeah.

What were you up to? As if it's not fucking. And then wait for the ACLU to come help you out. Yeah. Which. Yeah. Who knows? As if it's not fucking harrowing enough to fly out of Iran where they're like, what's

in your bags? What do you have? Like, you can't take anything there. You can't fucking take anything out. I'm like, dude, it's just fucking. They rip your bags apart. Yeah. Like they get literally picked up my hard drive and said, what's on this?

And I said, cat videos. Like, I don't know. But that's the thing. Anime, bro. Yeah. When we landed, they were like, everyone stay seated. And that's when I was sweating. Like, oh, that's it.

Bye, everybody. And then they came through and literally with a list in their hand, pulled like 15 young brown males up and walk them right out off this plane and that's when i knew i was like oh i'm in the clear but that is one of the most fucked up things i've ever witnessed yeah i watched a father get up and say where are you taking my son where is my son and they were like you need to sit your ass back down right and that's when i was like oh this the world was this on it was turkish airlines like from istanbul to lax direct when they when they pick them up when you landed in lax as soon as we landed people you know how everyone just gets up to get their bags they're like sit the fuck down yes came in was like

everyone sit down and that's when i was like oh goodbye america like i'm out of here no one's gonna let me back in yeah and it was lonely was loneliness. Truly, like, I was sweating. Like, I didn't know what was going to happen. I was in a middle seat. Oh, literally sitting next to two white people. So I was like, even more stressed out because I was just like, everything's great for you guys. One of these things is not like the other.

No, and it's like, people are like, oh, like, it's, you don't have to be dark. It's your passport. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's what you're, how many, you know, many vowels in your last yeah but that's how wild it is is that even as u.s citizens right you're subjected to this kind of fucking stress and trauma because of the way this country is structured right and it's crazy yeah like i think in this last year like whether it's the travel ban or like even for me it was charlottesville like that had me fucked up because i was like oh shit like i was like i guess every white person's

racist now like i don't even know what's what anymore and things like that that we are we are born in this country and we're still we we just we're not having the the experience or the tranquility of being able to say like that's fine i'm an american citizen i'm wanted here this is fine this is the climate that has been created. It's just a fucking shame. If you're comfortable flying with weed, check your fucking privilege. That's what I have to say. If you don't think white supremacy exists in this country

and in our judicial system, I would ask you to take a look at the Bundy case. Not Ted. I mean the family that led an armed insurrection of government lands explicitly with the intent of overthrowing the government and their case got dismissed. Right.

Not one week ago. Yeah. You think that could have happened to a black teenager? No. You think that could have happened to even like a Latino guy? Like, come on. And the second they reached for that gun, it was over. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. They came and took over a government building and shit everywhere. And then we're like, all right, our bad. And a 12-year-old can't walk with a BB gun in a park. Or a Snapple. Or a Skittles or whatever the fuck. If you don't think this is real, wake up, sheeple. Can I add one more thing?

The other thing is I worry so much about my parents. Yeah, me too. Because when that happened, my mom is a devout Muslim woman. My, they both, both my parents are Iranian. They're citizens of America, but they were born in Iran and they have thick accents. I was so scared because my father and I took separate flights. He flew to SFO San Francisco and I flew to LAX. I was also so horrified that my they would

put my father in a cell because of his accent or just what he looked like that that was even another thing where i was like please let my own father be okay my little old man dad and he's you know i have my issues with my father but that's my dad and if any if any ice agent or border control agent stepped to my father i don't even know if I was actually in the room what I would do. I'd lose my shit. You would turn to a super saiyan. Yeah. I would go insane and be like, do not talk to my father.

Oh, my God. Dude, my father in an ICE holding cell would be the worst interrogated person because he hates to answer questions. So my dad. Every time I'm like, hey, dad, how you doing? Oh, straight up. I'm like, what are you doing? Where are you taking my stuff? He's like, don't worry about it.

Why ask so many questions? Like, that's my dad. He you doing? Oh, straight up. I'm like, what are you doing? Where are you taking my stuff? He's like, don't worry about it. Why ask so many questions? Like, that's my dad. He's just, he's like so irritated all the time. My dad would just be a dick to them and make it worse for him because he'd be like, well, I want a lawyer. Yeah. And they're like, oh, that's it. They'd be like, where'd you go?

What cities? He'd be like, none of your business. And they'd be like, you're for sure a terrorist. No, dude, he's just a grouch. Yeah. He's an old Persian man. He doesn't want to answer your questions. He wants his tea.

Yeah. Straight up. He would be like, I don't want to talk your questions He wants his tea Yeah Straight up he would be like I don't want to talk about this Can you bring me some tea? Yeah Um Alright Thank you Anna

It's real It's very real And I was supposed to go again I was supposed to go in April I was supposed to go in April With my grouch dad And I don't know If we're going to go now

So uh That's uh That's me I don't know Maybe I'll go to Denver in April Right Um We can skip Bloodwatch for the week Blood there's not too much there's not too

much going on the most exciting thing was that uh katie holmes and jamie foxx suspect that scientology might be fucking with their relationship i do not doubt it i didn't know so the reason that uh they have been together for five years but it just came out is because she signed a thing that said you know she wasn't allowed to publicly date anyone for five years after the marriage, which is like – Are you serious? Yeah, that's why I broke up in 2012 and then come 2017, five years later, it's like, oh, Jamie and Katie. Wow. Have been together for six years.

JD. Yeah, exactly. Kamey. Kamey. And Matt Lauer shaved his head and looks like a comic book villain now. Like a tough guy. Yeah. Like a tough sex predator.

And proving that he has a pitch perfect sense of tone, he was like, yeah, I think I'm going to try and become a film producer now. Like, bro. Yeah, seems like you'd really fit in in that industry. But other than that, not much going on. We wanted to go out on a somewhat hopeful note. Miles, you found the story about the White Panthers.

The Root wrote up this article called The Caucasian Panthers Meet the Rednecks Armed, Ready, and Bout That Anti-Racist Life. Because I feel like we're talking a lot about we feel like there's a lot of bad people out there, bad white people out there. But this is a group We got white allies. Yeah, they're white allies. And they're out here and many of you people out there, bad white people out there. But this is a group. We got white allies. Yeah, there are white allies.

And they're out here. And many of you listen to the show. So I appreciate that. But listen, so this group basically came out of, as you're talking about Fred Hampton, right? The black man who was basically assassinated by the police. 100%. Yeah. And after they found him, they shot up his crib and they saw him still breathing.

They still shot him twice. They shot him, what, 60 times in the back? Just to make sure. Yeah. Anyway, a lot of this comes out of this pattern right that uh when civil rights leaders begin to work with white people and to create a coalition that usually sets the countdown timer for assassination so like when martin luther king uh began his poor people's campaign and bringing in white people in assassinated malcolm x gunned down after he was talking about bringing whites into the freedom movement.

Because, again, that is a very dangerous thing from the view of the government. It's like, whoa, disenfranchised people. Solidarity. Yeah, they're like – they all figured out that they're getting fucked over. So the main article focuses on this guy, and he's like, on the surface, a very – what he would call himself a redneck. But he is a Stanford-educated economist, and he has a PhD in environmentalneck. But, you know, he is a Stanford educated economist and he has a Ph.D. in environmental science, policy and management. And he's like he's just a very thoughtful person. And he's trying to bring back this movement of the Young Patriots organization,

which was a group that was led by this guy named William Fesperman. And it was basically composed of disenfranchised white people from Chicago's South Side. And that's who Fred Hampton had brought into his Rainbow Coalition. And so a lot of people are sort of looking at this history and being inspired by that to really take on fascism, racism, and combat that in the way that they know how. And, dude, a lot of these guys, you look at pictures of them, you think these are like Oath Keeper, like straight up scary. Crab Boys, maybe. But then they're like, no, we are here to fucking bust up racism because we realize that one of the leaders of the Young Patriots organization, the same guy, Preacher Man, was his nickname. He believed that racism had become a disease.

And he said, quote, I'm talking to the white brothers and sisters because I know what it's done. I know what it's done to me. I know what it does to people every day. It got to stop and we're doing it and this was somebody who basically wanted to organize for the good of the people so anyway there are these groups out there like the redneck revolt which you think is crazy yeah and the ypo these are people who are really taking up and i just you know i feel like it's good to also realize that there are people who are really it's not just about like oh i'm not racist or whatever yeah if you see some shit like that you need to say something you need to call it out because the more people realize that there are people especially white people who are against it and telling other white people that this doesn't

fly it's it's one thing to hear a bunch of black lives matter people or people of color trying to rail against racism but when you see white people doing it as well, it's much more powerful to other people who might not have thought about it as a more nuanced issue. Right. A racist does not care about the opinions of the brown people they're racist against. They do care about the opinions of other white people. And I think it's really important. Like if you're from the South and there are a lot of great Southern comrades, there's

a really great podcast called Trillbilly Workers Party. That's a leftist podcast from the South that I think is fucking awesome. If you're from the South and you have that experience of growing up with this intense racism and constantly being the one person you know with the political opinions you have and not being able to share that, think of it as like a skill. You know how to talk to people that are from where you're from. You know why people are racist. You know what they think, like, brown people are.

You know what I mean? Like, you have a skill that I don't know what it's like to grow up in the South. I'm from California. I don't know what it's like to grow up in the South. I don't know what it's like to be. I've never self-identified. I'm not a hillbilly. I'm not, you know what I mean?

But, like, if you have that, if that's your culture, you have the ability to relate to people in that culture. You have the common ground already. Exactly. You have the common ground, and it helps you be able to, to communicate with them on a level. And it's really hard. Yeah. It's really hard to do.

And it's great to have allies. But in these times, allies make yourselves known, man, because this is, this is just, it's just starting and we're gonna have to really show people the rest of the country,

the rest of the world at large that most Americans do not think like this, man. I love that they're called the John Brown Gun Club. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's dope. Alright, Sarajun, it has been a goddamn pleasure having you. Thank you so much. As always. Where can people follow you? You can follow me on Twitter at HeySarajun. You can Venmo me at

HeySarajun. You can follow my podcast at LeftCoastPod and you can now we have a Patreon and you can pay five bucks a month so that I can buy weed. Ooh. Yeah, or just Venmo her, so buy with that. Or just Venmo me and I'll buy weed. Also, yeah, come on. This is Mother of Nyan Cat, too.

Yeah. Y'all owe her something. Don't forget. Mother of Nyan Cat's telling you, don't be racist. Yeah. Shoot a racist. There you go. Miles, where can people follow you?

You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesUpgrade. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist. We have a Facebook fan page. Just search Daily Zeitgeist. And we have a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where you can find our episodes and footnotes. Footnotes.

Where we link off to the articles we used as sources. And that's going to do it for today. Miles, do you have a musical recommendation? Yes, because, you know, fucking President Trash want to talk fucking shit about Haiti. This is Lil Haiti, the rapper. His track's called The Wave because guess what, motherfucker? The Wave is going to come

and you can't stop it. Sac passe. Don't worry about chain migration because we're bringing everybody in here. It's a fucking party. Alright, that's going to do it for today. Please rate and review the podcast. Tell a friend about it. And we will be back Tuesday. We're off for Martin Luther King Jr.

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