The Daily Zeitgeist - Wall St. Causes Inflation? Netflix Password Police 06.06.22

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

In episode 1262, Jack and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by comedian, author, and TV writer, Emily Winter, to discuss… Reminder: Inflation Is Caused By Rich People Getting Richer, Not Poor People Getting a Couple Thousand Dollars, Netflix’s Password Sharing Crackdown is Already a Sh*tshow and more! Reminder: Inflation Is Caused By Rich People Getting Richer, Not Poor People Getting a Couple Thousand Dollars Netflix’s Password Sharing Crackdown is Already a Sh*tshow Netflix estimates 100 million households are sharing passwords and suggests a global crackdown is coming Netflix cracks down on password sharing, but early efforts in Peru are a mess LISTEN: Sphynx Gate/The World It Softly Lulls by Hiatus KaiyoteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season season 240 episode one of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is monday june 6th 2022 june 6th was d-day uh june 6th is also National Drive-In Movie Day, which always time to celebrate drive-in movies. You know, just don't see a Christopher Nolan movie since you won't be able to hear what's happening. But great family activity is a nice, you know, children's movie. Simple, easy to follow in the car. Highly recommend if you have one around you. Also, National Gardening Exercise Day,

which I think falls in the genre of days created by and for the elderly. Like, gardening is exercise, too. Most importantly. Have you gardened recently? Okay, I just want to say a lot of effort. Lots of hoeing. You know what? Yeah. No, it's work. It's work. gardened recently okay i just want to say a lot of effort lots of hoeing you know yeah things around no it's work it's work i didn't realize i guess i didn't realize that it was like fighting for

recognition as exercise it was probably like seems like in my experience gardening is the amount of exercise that it seems like it would be but that's i'm happy it has a day and i'm happy we're celebrating it also importantly at the end of last week mercury was officially out of retrograde this is the sort of thing that now that i've been in la for a dozen years i i know what that means and i have to say this is the first like astrological event i've been aware of as it was happening everything has always hit my brain as just an engine bounced off and this time i was like man they might be on to something what the fuck is happening what is happening with everybody i know murder and retrograde is supposed to be about you of communication, everybody being misunderstanding and misunderstood.

And I feel like I was seeing a lot of that. And now everything's just going to iron itself out, right? The technical difficulties were in abundance. Hopefully you took a minute to reflect. You're not supposed to do anything during work. You're not supposed to be manifesting. Don't plan no trips. Don't get

excited for shit you just sit down you reflect on your life for three weeks and then when it's out hopefully you learned a lesson from whatever hard bullshit you had to go through and now you're on the other side of that lesson and you can make better choices and hopefully the pathways of communication are much clearer your skies are clear y'all you're better off to move forward. Now I can once again manifest. Finally, I was like, hold my breath. Not man.

I know you were right on that whiteboard. Yeah, no, you had goals and you were like, let me just, let me just reflect for a minute before I really set that intention. I get it. Well,

my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA cold brew MD. And we're talking cold gas stoves on T-D-Z. I'm O'Brien Potatoes. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. That is courtesy of Discord's Ike Gang, Fighter of the Nightman, to The Man Who Sold the World, which they credited to Nirvana, which, yeah, let's go with it. I think it was a remake of a Bowie song,

but that is the version that I was familiar with. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, the producer behind shows like Fake Doctors, Real Friends, Welcome to Our Show, You've Heard Her on Pop Culture, Happy Hour, Read Her at Vulture, The A.V. Club, Teen Vogue, Pace, many more. She's the host and executive producer of the Comic-Con Metapod, It's the Brilliant and Tal and talented Joelle Monique!

Hello! I'm back. They let me out of the cage. I'm really excited. So many fun things to talk about. Are you watching Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jack? I'm not, but I want to. Jack, Jack.

Okay. At the end, I'll do a very short tirade on why you need to be watching Obi-Wan Kenobi. But not with your children. I am in. And-Wan Kenobi. But not with your children. I am in. And not with my children? Do not watch with your children. They're not prepared. A man, listen, without giving anything away, a man is halved.

He's halved. Halved. All right. It's very dramatic. My kids will be so into that, but they also shouldn't be. We're trying to discourage that. Anyways, Joelle, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by a very funny comedian who writes for Nickelodeon's That Girl Lele. MPR's Ask Me Another, The New York Times, The New Yorker, Bravo Glamour. Very, like, fucking hosting the show with some literary heavyweights. She hosts the podcast

Comedians with Ghost Stories, authored a book of uplifting and funny trivia, One Day Smarter. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented Emily Winter! Oh, thank you so much! Wow, that was beautiful. I just gotta say, okay, so whoever sent you

the AKA, Nirvana's cover of The Man Who Sold the World is from their unplugged, mtv unplugged and it yeah and it was very very good yeah yeah oh yeah yeah but yeah i i think the first time i heard it i was like oh yeah that's a nirvana song and then i had to i had to become educated about bowies but yeah so i i felt like i related i felt a little bit ashamed and by the way when you said it was very very good you were talking about my AK, of course,

we don't even need to, yeah, the vocal performance, vocal silence. I've always felt a little bit ashamed that my favorite Nirvana album is the unplugged. I feel like that makes me like a whack Nirvana fan, but it is truly like just top to bottom bangers.

And like his vocal performance is the best live vocal performance I've ever heard. Just completely nails every, and apparently like really, you know, the people who produced the show were like, he, he was not fucking around like the,

the amount of work that he put in to each one of those songs and the preparations and the arrangements and you hear it all it's a it's a great album highly recommend if you haven't heard it but i think i feel like it is it is probably the number one cause of all those nirvana shirts in the in the streets these days i think it's just that you can use the logo for free now or something it's like run out you know what i mean like you can just throw it on anything. Yeah. But dude, that album. And yeah, you were saying all the vocal arrangements above.

I listened to that. I was like, Oh, that's hot. That's hot. That's all I knew. I was a kid. I was like that.

Amanda's hot. That is sexy. Yes. I'm going to card again. Sipping on tea. Between something in the way. And where did you sleep last night? You'll have like an actual transformation as an individual.

You'll be like, oh, I didn't know 80 year old man pain could live in a 20 year old body. That's that attractive. It's very it's confusing and delightful and then very dark. But also you're like my soul. It's it's it's kind of a perfect album. Yeah. And it was the last thing he did, sadly. Alright, well that's a happy note to end

the intro on, Emily. What happened to him? I was just about to Google what's he up to? Has he dropped anything? Does he have a mixtape coming out? Alright, Emily, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about

I googled, what really causes inflation because I wanted to see if anybody was talking about the real cause. There's also this article about oil executives cashing out, like selling off their stock because they're like, we just got away with like almost literal murder. And so I wanted to see if anybody was like connecting the two and they're not. So we're going to talk about that. And then it's going to be just a lighthearted show. I think from that point forward, we're going to talk about Netflix's attempts to crack down on password sharing. Maybe that's not that lighthearted. That kind of that kind of hurts. And it's like just bureaucratic. It seems like what they were doing

was trying to make a large bureaucratic decision and operation while Mercury was in retrograde. And they should have talked to my good friend, Joelle Monique. But before any of it, Emily, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay. So yesterday I searched searched i was having a fight with my writing partner over the longest word in the english language and he thought as we all did apparently when we were in grade school did you guys think this that the longest word in the english language was anti-disestablishmentarianism yes definitely have heard that i thought it was a hawaiian fish i thought there was a was a Hawaiian fish that had the longest name.

That was the one that I always heard. Do you remember what it was? No, no, no. No, I don't have that kind of brain. Joelle, where'd you grow up? Illinois. Oh, me too. Okay, maybe it was in Illinois.

But my writing partner's from Oregon. So I don't know, man. Like, apparently this was from Illinois to Oregon. We thought it was anti-disestablishmentarianism. It's not. And it's not a Hawaiian fish. What is it? It is.

It's a supposed lung disease, which I don't know what that means. But we'll just go with lung disease. And it's 45 letters long. And it's nomo. Oh, man. It's nomonolotromicroscopic silicovolcanoesconiosis. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know that word. You know that word?

Oh, I use it conversationally. Nomonolotromicroscopic silicovolcanoesconiosis. Yeah. You did a good job. Rolls off the tongue. That one is, I guess I'll give it to them. Maybe they just had to keep

like fitting shit in as they like learned more about the lung disease. Is that what we're going to assume how that monstrosity happened? Oh, right. Like they're like, oh no, we got to put the fraggle in

because now we know i mean there's a volcano in the middle of that word for no apparent reason that's for fun that's somebody was yeah having a hard day really showing off that day i feel like medical dictionaries need not apply we get it you're smart and you're using a lot of Greek and Latin and that's very cool. Anti-disestablishmentarianism is a word I might use. I feel like that is going to reign supreme and then as an addendum we'll be like,

but don't look at medical dictionaries because they'll say other things. Fair. There is one that's longer that is not medical and it's 29 letters and I'm going to butcher it. It means the estimation of something There is one that's longer that is not medical. And it's 29 letters. And I'm going to butcher it. It means the estimation of something is worthless.

So basically, it means worthless. So you could just say worthless. But it's... I can't... Okay. I'm going to try one more time. Floxinophilification. I mean, that's pretty good. Yeah.

That's great. And that one is just specifically made for snobs, right? For snobs to have an even more annoying way to call something, like to diss something. I thought I've met enough snobby people, but I've never heard that used. So I guess I still have higher mountains to climb as far as jerks that I've met. Meeting the worst people in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Which, by the way, I watched that movie last night. Very good. Worst person in the world. Highly recommend. What is that's how my brain

works. It doesn't remember things like long words. It just pops in with movie facts in terms of when I've watched a movie. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated and I don't know if this is a current trend or if it's just a California trend because I just

moved to California but cocktails on tap. Horrible. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? like the what they call those beerita things in a can like that like where it's a pre-mixed no so those

are cheap and I can abide what I am talking about are like you go to a bar okay this has happened like five times since i've been here i go to a bar and i say i want a mixed drink and then they go to what looks like would be a beer tap but it's cocktails and they are so sweet and so disgusting and i'm like just i'm paying 15 to this cocktail just make me a freaking cocktail okay becca's sick she hates them yes okay so producer becca ramos in brooklyn i am shocked that they

have an annoying expensive snobby drink there but i i just moved from brooklyn i didn't see them there but maybe it's a trend right now and i i just they're way too sweet they're way too lazy i am off it totally like if you order a manhattan it's like in a it's in like a pre-made batch of manhattans and then they just pull it over no listen why am i paying all this money for mixologists what happened to that generation of deliciousness where they were like we've got pine needles and a flame and you're gonna love it it's gonna be magnificent i used to get a show when I went to a bar. Pre-porn, I don't like it.

Yeah, exactly. I want a show. Are they coming out of a keg of Manhattan? Yeah. Like, what? Yeah. Oh, it's tragic. And apparently it's happening not just in California.

So watch out, people. But I did. I recently, I was at a bar last week and i said i'm so sorry but those things are disgusting and the guy said i know the bartender said i know and i was like can you make me a real drink so if you ask and try to have like a moment with your bartender you might be able to get out of it but it's a trend that i i'm very sad about he solemnly missed you a drink mixed you a drink and then was fired immediately like no i'm just not you're wasting your time that is considered time off task which is a term we learned in our last episode which is how amazon defines any time you spend talking to a co-worker

what yeah yeah yeah they have like trackers on you and if you and and then at the end of the day okay you uh logged one hour of time off task they explain what you were doing from 1100 hours to 1109 there's nothing worse than minimum wage there's because they really do feel like they own you that is what that's like when they're like do not use the bathroom after you've just clocked in sir i just spent an hour and a half getting here okay i'm gonna use the restroom on the clock please leave me the hell alone what are you talking about people are terrible that's awful they're not just hire the robots already like we we can be robots. We're people. Yeah. Stupid.

I mean, I wish I could save all my poops for work, but, you know, bodies don't work that way. We're not holding it, you know? Save all your poops for work as a mild form of protest against the machine. Let's all just save all our poops for work. If you're pooping at home, you're not doing it right. Yeah. Agreed. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated? Fritos. I feel like I've been going to a lot of outdoor activities, beach stuff, park stuff, and you get that big variety pack and no one ever goes for the Fritos. And just like I always pick the yellow game piece when I'm playing board games because no one picks it, I just take it to be like fine. And I realized recently that I actually love Fritos and I don't get why they aren't as popular as Doritos. Okay. So let's talk about it.

Why are Fritos not as popular as Doritos? We're talking about just the straightforward thick corn that are the size of fingernails. Is that the overgrown fingernails? The fingernail chips. Yeah, the great, great way to spell it. That's their branding and that's exactly why they're not doing well. That's kind of how, like, I think that's part of the problem.

I think Doritos have, you know, the flavor dusting, which I think is delightful. Fritos, of course, are not going to get your fingers all stained and gross and make it hard to get away with a crime. But I think most importantly is they're too small for dipping. I think there are Fritos that are a little bit bigger, and maybe original Fritos were bigger. that are a little bit bigger and maybe original Fritos were bigger, but they have shrunk them down to a size that they are a plain corn chip that is too small for dipping.

And that is my primary purpose when I'm purchasing, picking up, and using a plain corn chip. But you're not dipping Doritos. Oh. You dip Doritos? Yeah, I dip. Joelle, are you okay with this?

Okay, here's a stunner I don't like either. If I was going to say what the issue was, instead of looking at the product, because I haven't tasted either, or haven't in a very long time, I would say it's branding. Doritos really went for the children an essential part of a child's youth is like doritos like they have the cool 90s logos and they got like the holographic like front portion of the bag it's like blue and bright colors i really think they were like we're gonna be the child's chip and fritos was like adults love us and that's good enough they have purchasing power um but now the children have become adults and they prefer doritos and their many flavors but i come from like we're from illinois emily

and the land of the walking taco where you would like cut a fritos bag open but now i'm seeing people do it with doritos so i really do i feel you that the the tide is changing and i i think it's doritos has come out superior oh i, I do remember when I lived in New York, Frito Pie was the thing and it was just chili dumped into a bag of Fritos. It's the same exact thing. Yeah, that's great. A bag of browned meat.

That's great. And that, but now that you mention it, that does sound better with Doritos. I actually do like to use a nacho cheese Dorito with my favorite salsa. Green Mountain Gringo Medium is my favorite salsa. And I think they pair delightfully. It's like a pico based.

It's green. It's like avocados. What's happening in there? No, no, no. The name of the company is Green Mountain. It's just a nice tomato salsa with chunks of tomato, kind of vinegary. Not everybody's as into it as me. That is just my personal favorite salsa.

But then the dust on the Dorito gets all wet. Like, soggy dust is yucky. No? You're right, but people love it. It's like when Van Leeuwen's made their, like, Velveeta mac and cheese ice cream. I think it was Velveeta, or was it Kraft? It like Velveeta mac and cheese ice cream. I think it was Velveeta or was it Kraft? It was Kraft. Kraft mac and cheese ice cream.

And it was all the powdered shit that you put in the macaroni when it's cooking. They're like, what if we just put that in ice cream? And people were like, God, yes, inject it into my veins. I don't understand why we're into powdered foods. Don't associate me with that. That is an abomination. It is definitely messier. It gets your fingers all orange

while you're doing the salsa, Dorito combination. It's still, like, the rub is worth it for me. You know, having the Dorito rub on my fingers is worth it for me.

And on your pants. Yeah. That's right. I assume everyone starts just wiping their finger like, oh, can't get it off. Pants. Not all my pants are orange and tinted. Yeah. I respect it, but I don't like it.

In the same way, like Doritos now has what the Doritos taco at Taco Bell. Oh, Jack. Oh, no. Wait, I was going to say this is your corner. Yeah. I do love it. It's delicious. I think it was great.

People loved it when it first came out. Now people are kind of backing off. I do love it. It's delicious. I think it was great. People loved it when it first came out. Now people are kind of backing off. I haven't had it in a while, so maybe they like changed it and like kind of cheaped it up a little bit. But... Have to give us an updated report on how good the Jericho Taco Bell Taco is. It can't be good. It's dusty.

When you're holding it, it's dusty. The taco is dusty. They give you a nice sleeve, which is helpful with all hard shell tacos, but in particular this one. It's a mess. It's definitely a mess. I feel you on

them being preferable. I love a corn chip, but I want to be able to dip a corn chip. And Fritos feel too small to get a chunky salsa dip going, personally. Fair. And I think I did do a misstep in comparing and saying it has to be Fritos or Doritos. Because I do enjoy a Dorito not dipped.

But Fritos, they got a little kick to them, man. I know we got like three Midwesterners here and maybe that's just the Midwest talking. I'm like, ooh, this mayo's spicy. But I feel like Fritos got a little more flavor than you think or something. And then you're like,

oh, wow, you really self-contained magic here. I got clean fingers anyway. I like to use Miracle Whip on someone's sandwich and waggle my eyebrows a little bit. Like, huh? We're going crazy. We're really putting in work now. We're going off the map today.

Get ready for a little tang. Yeah, I spent a lot of my life in the Midwest. And I'm a fan of all of these things. They also have like the chili Fritos, which are... I go back and forth on those. Chili powder dusted Fritos. You need to have them in the right situation. They're a situational snack chip, I feel like.

I like a classic blue corn chip. That's where I'm at. Oh, and some peach salsa. Mm-hmm. I like the peach salsa. Not grand specific. It's kind of sweet and kind of tangy, then perfect. That's like a dream snacks.

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and we're back and uh we talked at the end of last week that like you know that there is a genre of article that's like wow come on man why can't biden catch a break that is just everywhere in the news and the one biden problem that mainstream news outlets seem to agree on is that inflation is bad and it was caused by giving giving people money during the pandemic like that seems to be what everybody's just settled with the decision to send money to americans during a global pandemic and now we're all paying the price except that's like not like most of the people who are like sending that messaging out are corporations and like libertarian publications. And then when you look at the actual like events that are happening, the things that are being done by the people who have the power in our country, which is the corporations. the power in our country, which is the corporations, like I do feel like oil executives have as much, if not more power than the president as the story evidences. They are, what they've done is they've raised the prices because they like money. Seems to be like that. That seems to

be the cause of at least inflation on gas prices. And, you know, we've all just bought the story that now, well, it's the war and it's, we have too much money. We're sorry, sir, we have too much money from these stimulus payments. And so this article caught my eye in the context of that. They say gas prices, this is in Yahoo, which is my only source of news. I just go to Yahoo and I'm like, they got me covered. They said gas prices have skyrocketed to record highs, forcing some families to choose between filling their tank, putting food on the table. But for the oil execs whose stock holdings have soared, these are happy days. Some of them are cashing in their shares at unusually high rates. Among four senior executives

at PBF Energy, they have sold $9 million worth of stock. We've also got Chevron, the EVP. James Johnson has sold more than $56 million in stock so far this year what are they just like backing out because you know everything's so bad actually no things are really good chevron's net income more than quadrupled compared to the same period the prior year that is not something that happens in like for for companies just in general quadrupling your net income and this is when like prices have risen and everybody is blaming like greedy government or circumstances or us being sent those checks for two thousand dollars like that that is essentially what i feel like the public consciousness has settled on like when you Google what's the real cause of inflation, you just get an endless list of people being like, government greed caused

inflation for the record. And articles from Reason magazine with Joe Biden looking very stupid, and looking very stupid. Like just the worst picture they could find on Getty. Politicians cause real pain with inflationary policies. And it's like, well, corporations have just realized they can raise prices without...

Like that is the one policy that I think is causing this is that there is no pushback. There's no regulation on massive corporations. They have all, all the say. And what they say is like,

like you guys, I know you guys like money. I know it's useful to, to you guys, but like we, oh man, we're, we really like money.

And so we're going to take yours is essentially what is happening. Yeah. The, I think the American idealism of self-sufficiency has started to impact us in such a negative way that it's we actually have to confront it at this point this in the same way that like we saw with the formula shortage just breastfeed your baby then like okay let me tell you how things work on this side of reality. Like not every mom can breastfeed. Not every baby has a mother in their life currently.

Some people are being raised by two fathers. Like there are a bajillion reasons why people cannot breastfeed and like babies need food. And they're like, oh, well, you should have thought of that ahead of time as if this is somehow some moral failing in the same way that you know if an unprecedented pandemic hits and our government decides to try to help sustain its population through it suddenly that's become a negative and they gave us so little money so little and And that very little bit made a huge difference in a lot of

people's lives, right? Like that for some people, that was a ton of money that they were able to make important shifts and decisions about their lives. And so the idea that somehow helping a corporation could ever be better or a better use of finances than giving directly to the people, I just can't wrap my head around it. Like, I think about this a lot, like I said in my idle time of like, why don't we want to help the individual people that make up our entire society as opposed to corporations that show no need? You know, as you know, we're going to talk about Netflix later, but you know, Netflix just fired all of the people it brought in. They were like, sorry, it got a little scary. So we have to let all these people that we forced to move across the country, you know, to help build our brands

and speak to the people we're hoping to engage with our content. We have to fire you now. And hopefully you'll enjoy the like very basic mundane stuff that we make from now on because we're going to stick with what's safe. I don't understand. I can't wrap my mind around it. Yeah. The broader industry uptick is fueled in part by surging demand, which I don't know how, like, surging from what? We're driving it all. It's pretty, yeah, I feel like demand's been pretty steady. Like the fact that the pandemic is slowing down. So it's surging back to the previous levels. Inflation, which, as we just mentioned, is them raising prices so that they have record profits at the level of quadrupling year over year. And the war in Ukraine. Like those are the things that are good for their business. things that are good for their business. So I don't know. If I didn't know any better, I'd say we're not all in this together, as the BP commercial said during the pandemic.

I'd say the executives benefit when they make us pay more and they benefit when there is a war on. And that's probably not great because they're the most powerful people in the country up to and possibly including the president like that's that's why biden sounds like why we're in a new era where the president comes on and is like man like i don't know would you do something and it's like i thought you were the president but it's like yeah the president doesn't really have the ability to do anything anymore because corporations make like you can't upset the corporations i love we're all in this together uh as a commercial during the pandemic when no one was driving now then it's like then it's like please please yeah it's an abusive relationship

i need you i love you we we want you you You're our heroes. And then, yeah. But even there's a New York Times. So I was doing this kind of as an experiment, the search for the real causes of inflation on Google. Ten articles down, there is a New York Times opinion piece from a Democratic leader that calls for the government to preemptively buy goods, distribute them on a need basis to deal with inflation. But he has to specifically say his plan avoids violating market dynamics. He doesn't once mention the idea that executives using the narrative of inflation to raise prices and make more money just arbitrarily than ever before, that that those are causes like you just aren't allowed to say that. And yeah, I mean, Joel, you said you've been thinking about this a lot. I feel like everybody's been thinking about this a lot. And it kind of makes you feel crazy when you see, like, very clearly what's going on. And like, nobody is allowed to say it's very clearly what's going on and like nobody is allowed to say it's i think that's why you're seeing a surge in unions like there's yeah i really feel like there is a strong workers movement

launching that is saying you know if our government can't protect us and if these mega corporations we work for have no interest in protecting us physically mentally spiritually financially then we're going to have to set up parameters so that these things can happen ourselves. And it's been interesting to see the amount of money corporations are willing to not give what would probably be considerably a lot less money just to meet demands over the long, like, I can't remember the dollar amount Amazon spent trying to crush their union force, but I was like, you could have just given that to the workers and they probably would have been thrilled. They probably would have been like, that's amazing. Thank you. We'll leave you alone now. So I don't know. I'm excited as we see

more and more corporations start to have to answer to their employees. Maybe there's some hope in that direction. But I do think we also need to see that kind of reform, deep reform within our government, because this system is not working. And like, not to get that kind of reform, deep reform within our government, because this system is not working. And like, not to get too heavy into everything, but like, what these judges are trying to pull right now, these Supreme Court judges is, oh, it's so scary. It's really frightening. Yeah. And like the, you know, in the midterm primariesaries we're also seeing that like the very mainstream like when it's sort of a choice between kind of equally funded candidates and there is the mainstream democratic option like connor lamb and then like a somebody who just like has

some of the same opinions as bernie sanders like johnetterman, like the people want the they they they see what's going on. Like people see it. And like just because you are like the mainstream Democratic Party is not saying it, it doesn't mean like they're they're going to go with the fascists or whether we're going to have an option that is a less corporate and market-controlled Democratic option. I'm not hopeful now. It's going to have to get a lot worse for the Democratic Party before it gets better but and for us as a people we live for comfort i i certainly do and you know there's a lot of comfort being brought by a lot of evil corporations making life day-to-day easier right until we can dive like what's the word for divest the invest yeah i think there you go okay perfect that's how i've always used that word. Doesn't mean it's correct. Dictionary folks will correct me and I appreciate it in advance. But until we can divest from systems like that, I think that we're going to continue to be stuck in sort of this push and pull situation. And it's hard to divest.

So actually, the correct word is 43 letters long. letters long i feel like we're all little mini bidens in in here because it's like yeah like we're between a rock and a hard place we you know you have to we're in a capitalist system and we're making it work by saying like oh amazon sucks and then like i'm gonna buy my little snuggie on amazon and um and i feel like he i mean we're just just in it. We're like stalled. Right. Because we can't change our lives that quickly because we don't know how. And it's confusing. And so is he. You know, like he can't he can't he can't be like, I'm not a capitalist anymore. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you can't just do that one day. He just got to gay and women's rights. Like, yeah, it's he's like's like it will slow down it's happening very fast yeah i would say that as a as a people at least from my point of view in la like it seems we're in a

transitional period you know we're seeing a lot of what we saw and i would say the early 70s and mid 80s where you're seeing like a lot of white flight from cities you're seeing but also at the same time like a lot of gentrifications of old places and a lot of places that haven't gotten the same kind of attention to detail are starting to fall further off. I think we're seeing a rising in workers' rights, but we're also seeing a shift in like, how do we get more into like mutual aids and mutual funds and supporting our communities? And so I feel like I say every time I'm on here, but like investing in mutual aids and into your community and figuring out how you can get involved on that level, I think it's a small amount of change that like, because we're all just people with very busy lives and children

and stuff, and we all don't have time to be heroes or don't want to be. And I don't think everyone should have to be called upon to be like the biggest and best person they can be every single day. That's exhausting. But I do think that a lot of folks are trying to make small incremental changes to make a larger change and i'm i have hope in that even though it's incredibly slow i have hope that if if we can do that then maybe things will get a little better yeah capitalism never sleeps man it is really what a beast monster yeah i do like have some hope that once people recognize that like there needs to be some other way that we're not all just gonna tuck into a nice like you know two decades of fascism like we did in the 80s but we'll see depends on how good the uh top gun movies are oh god did you see it by the way joel of course i did and it's fun

right oh god it's so much fun yeah it's terrible how much fun it is for like six different reasons i was like i really wanted to be able to walk out and be like no awful but you really feel like you're flying in a jet man and it's we saw it on imax with the surround sound my seat was rumbling and i was like yes and then they make the very smart move of not making the villain anyone they're like nondescript location everyone in mass there's some ocean and some mountains where could we be we don't know but they're evil and we gotta win and i was like yeah i see it and i'm enjoying it and i can really get out of the headspace of like who are they telling us is evil because technically no one maybe everyone i just it's so much fun it is a really

well constructed movie that i just hope people remember is uh not an accurate depiction of war or what that uh system of military is like. Talk to some real Navy people. Don't let it recruit you guys. It's just a movie is what I say to the young people. Or what women in their 50s should look like. Okay. She's so pretty, though.

I know. Really? She really kept it together. Yeah, it is a good movie, though. Sad to say. don't talk to the guy in the navy uniform next to the popcorn just don't just don't they are legit doing that they're sending of course they are oh yeah they're not going to miss an opportunity all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about bullshit. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series

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Seems like a lot. So one of the things that they're doing in Peru where they're like, so they've decided, all right, we're going to test out some of the like password sharing police tactics in some small markets so that we can abuse people and not get the backlash. Sure, sure. So they've tried it in Peru. And the way they're doing it is if you have somebody outside of your household using your same account, they will add $2 a month to your account. So, I mean, that would be 60 million if 30 million people in the U.S. and Canada are sharing it, which could produce a whole entire two episodes of Stranger Things, which is exciting. i don't know it just it sounds truly like a uh mercury and retrograde operation like they weren't they didn't define the things that they were going to do they also

haven't told people who are getting charged like what they're being charged for or what the what the rules are like that seems wrong and it's a real it's a real about face like netflix what really prided itself on being like the cool guys they were they they had a a tweet from like the netflix account like in in support of the that tv show love which it should be noted is explicitly the type of show netflix will no longer be making but they tweeted love is sharing a password to promote that show so i think okay so social media is not going to be in line with what business strategy is for the company so i get that they were like oh we know you share so like leading to the social side of it i do think it's horrible that they're not telling people

what they're like you could very easily set up an alert to say like, hey, someone outside of your household, which I'm guessing they're basing off of internet. Like IP address. You're not on the same Wi-Fi. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So someone from outside your network is using it.

Two extra dollars. Here's why they should do that immediately. Stick to that plan. If you have to. If you have to charge more. If you have to make it so to charge more if you have to make it so that people one i'll listen i'll hit my baby cousin up and be like i need two dollars so you can keep running this account but also if i can then use my um what do you call that thing

when you're trying to search secretly in different countries vpn yes can i use my vpn because i want to get the shows that are available in London, but not here. Okay. I want all access Netflix. That used to be back in 2014 before they started caring about VPNs. That was everything you want to give me back. I'll pay five extra dollars. I'll say it right here. Netflix, five extra dollars. If I can use my VPN on your service, it totally makes sense. $5 is not going to crunch me. It'll give access to other people. I don't know how many people have my Netflix password. Please keep using it. I have no problem with it. People have to share. There's too many streaming services. And I think you run the risk potentially of losing a lot more

customers long term. If you don't figure out an easily affordable situation, then just by like forcing people to buy the subscription because let's be real netflix most of your prestige shows are over you've ended them and the shows that people wanted you to invest in you canceled after two seasons so now you're in this weird place of every major studio has their own production like your own streaming service so it doesn't make sense for them to come to netflix anymore unless their streaming service is very low in the bucket and they're hoping to get more eyes on their property most people are just going to go to their hbo's your disney pluses whatever they have to create more distinct content and i don't know if you guys heard the other day they called which project oh the irishman of

vanity project they called the irishmanity Project, which someone should slap you. Okay. This man is single-handedly out here trying to save film. Okay. Real quick. We did talk about this on the show, Joel. Did you know that that movie cost $175 million? Yes, I did. It was stupid expensive. If you make an 80-year-old look like an 18-year-old, it's going to cost money. Okay. It's excessively expensive but it's martin scorsese again the man actively trying to preserve film and on top of that like that was a conversation for forever we talked about the irishman much longer than we talk about most shows or movies that come out i want to say at least three months people being like oh guy you look like a stiff 80 year old trying to walk

in an 18 year old's face it's weird people talked about you know then once there was like a critical analysis of you know is this film actively engaging with scorsese's former pics or is this more of an older guy looking back on his own individual life and there's just so many discussions around i think that's exactly the kind of content netflix should be courting because if we're not you're not advertising so you don't have to worry about advertisers you've already got a very basic rate system in there where children can go to one place and there's all the other shows on another spot so you don't have to worry about censoring yourself you're not held responsible to anyone but Netflix it seems cowardly to me to react so intensely to what I think it should have been planned for you guys got a lot of viewers when we were in a pandemic

because children were at home and we cannot directly engage with that children is what I would say you can't directly engage with children they need tv please distract them but of course once people start going outside you know that's gonna off. I think it's such a weird gut reaction to say, we're just tossing out all of these incredible writers that we hired and brought in to be to bring in these new audiences. I mean, they just held like a golden ball, which was a celebration of Asian American representation in America. And half the people that are part of that team got canned. So I don't know, I think I think a knee jerk reaction shows fear. And I that team got canned so i don't know i think i think a knee jerk reaction shows fear and i think it also shows that you don't have a great plan in place

the only thing left on netflix that i really want to watch is um uh i will watch that but that really lays on nickelodeon nickelodeon has an app i can check out okay they got paramount it's right there plenty plenty of stuff to watch but also please go watch that girl lele but also you know they've got heart stoppers there's a netflix project that's really great it's queer uh ya romance it's done beautifully i love it sex education is great and then the last season of stranger things we're running low on content netflix you gotta get some great shows because emily in paris isn't gonna keep no one's paying for tlc that's just in a package that just comes with a bunch of other channels and you're like i'll watch it if i have

time they have to have you have to invest in artists uh because it's what the big studios aren't doing the big studios are investing in major properties that are going to continue to bring people back to theaters because that's what people want to spend. If you have to spend money for a ticket, you want a big production like a Top Gun, like any of your Marvel movies. I think for Netflix to not invest in artists and really individual unique projects is going to be a terrible move. I can't see it working. Yeah, the people at the top making these decisions are beholden to Wall Street and people who write about Wall Street and the investors and that community. The people who are in the middle and below are beholden to customers. And you see that split

with, they're customer representatives who say that they're confused about what the hell they're supposed to tell subscribers who call in and ask, like, okay, so what is the policy? They're also doing things that are going to get them in trouble with consumer protection agencies in other countries, not in America, because America doesn't have any functional consumer protections. But, you know, they're discriminating against users arbitrarily because they're just choosing to enforce this policy in some places and not others.

But it's also the like an underrated cause of stress in the modern world is that we created these companies with like hundreds of billions of dollars of like Wall Street valuations and they serve, you know, billions of people around the world and they have, they are not staffed to do that. And so anytime something comes up, like with Facebook causing genocides in other countries or with Netflix having to have a customer facing process for like policing how people use their products they are completely at a loss they're completely not equipped to do that sort of thing and yeah there's just so much bloat in terms of like what companies aim to do and what companies actually functionally do do with technology and then their actual ability to like rein that in when there are problems and there are going to be problems because your customer base is

needs to be growing every single three months quarter over quarter or you people start getting fired and you know we have to get off of this trade i hate this i really do i don't understand why a business can't just be sufficient yeah uh the idea that is like oh we haven't tripled our growth oh our former customers are still here we're still making money we can pay our staff and the lights are on i don't see the issue and i don't see and the other thing is they don't want to invest in people but robots cannot solve these kinds of problems like you can't or at least not yet be like, Oh, Hey, there's a lot of genocide created by our content. Send out the robot masses to start figuring out why that is and,

and build us a solution. That's going to take a team of highly educated and qualified people to do, and they're going to cost money. And I think what we're seeing a lot of is those people being sort of way overtaxed. Like I have a friend at Netflix, who's the only person left on her team. And at least from our, our preliminary conversations a few weeks ago,

none of the workload has left. So how does she lose a team of five and still be expected to produce anywhere near the same kind of content? You just can't. So I don't know. I, produce anywhere near the same kind of content you just can't so i don't know i corporations are very exhausting and they're only their desire to make money and i wish we had more spaces that had a desire to just be enough it's like there's enough money our staff is good our product is

good and that is we like what we do and we're going to keep doing that at a high level. And it doesn't matter if we grow over like and more people come in or like slightly fewer people come in because we like what we do. And are still making money. Yeah. Yeah. Sustainable. But this is so interesting because it totally mirrors the first conversation we had about inflation where it's like something bad is happening and now we're going to make it the individual's fault right like it's it's our problem where it's really a systemic problem that needs to be solved but that's too hard so instead of doing that we'll just um tax

the you know we'll just put it on the individuals and the users and it's what needs to happen is something needs to change with the way that we're watching TV because it's ridiculous as a person who loves her couch and her TV. Like we need like I need I need I can't even turn on my TV anymore. I feel like my husband just comes in and he's like, this is the remote we use now. It's this week's remote and it goes to this machine. And this is how you get these three things. And I'm like, OK. And like that shouldn't be i'm smart enough person to turn on my television and get my shows but for some reason i can't you know what i mean i i do there are a lot of options and i think it's very interesting especially when you compare it to like i always try to compare the evolution of television to the evolution of

film because i think they're very comparable you know one film that was initially sort of getting off of the ground you had a lot of production companies also be movie houses right so they were taking their own films that they produced and releasing them in their own theaters and becoming like huge off of that money because you don't have to pay to be in somebody's movie house you own it and I think it's interesting to watch the same thing happen with television now where all these production companies have their own streaming services that don't necessarily need to do the numbers of a broadcast production I mean because typically you were trying to make a show that's popular enough to get enough

advertisers to continue to fund that network. But now these networks are sort of pinched off budgets from larger production companies. And so budgets are much smaller, but what you're getting is a ton of shows, maybe an eighth of which are quality. Not to say that there aren't more good shows that you just might like, but if we're talking like actual quality television coming out of the golden age of TV tv we are not anywhere near producing the number of golden age television shows that we were and there's ups and downs on the upside so many writers are employed right now and i think that's a really beautiful thing but if you listen to the writing community uh the television writing community specifically they're talking about how

the experience you used to get when you were doing 22 episodes a season and you would come on set and you would learn how to produce and how to show run. It's an integral part to moving on from being a writer to being a head of production or a showrunner. And now, you know, you get maybe, what, 10 episodes a season, sometimes eight. You're coming on set less. Some of that is COVID protocols. season, sometimes eight, you're coming on set less, some of that is COVID protocols. But I think, you know, TV is in such an interesting place. And I'm interested to see how we're going to pull up from that. I think HBO Max is doing a really great job of providing really intelligent, thoughtful content that is directly for a super niche audience, which I think is probably going to

be the wave of the futures we've seen with like youtube and stuff is niche audience creation is what has become sustainable and then you'll have your giant big box office stuff that sort of keeps everybody afloat right i don't know emily does that ring true with your experiences all right oh absolutely i was just thinking about uh i was on set for i've been working since March and I was on set for the first time. Whoa. This week. Yeah. Whoa. Because that's because it was my episode. And so I was allowed to come on because of COVID protocols. But then also like it's part of the reason I keep my hair pink is that like I always have crazy hair colors. I am wearing a mask the entire time. I'm trying to learn. I'm trying to meet everybody.

Nobody knows who I am. And so I'm like, mask the entire time I'm trying to learn I'm trying to meet everybody nobody knows who I am and so I'm like you know what I'm gonna be the lady with the crazy hair so that you can always find me and we can talk about whatever and yeah I mean obviously you know you want to learn how to show run and everything and it's yeah it's it's just a really totally and yeah our seasons are shorter and it's a you know it's fine it fine. It's good, but it's, it's not the environment. And honestly, craft services. Oy, oy, oy. That's taking a real nosedive. So yeah, I hear tales of your.

Fully stocked tables as far as the eye could see. Just delicious treats. I want, I want good mac and cheese so bad and I never get it. Anyway. All the dream snacks. What a problem. Have you tried the sweet pink mac and cheese from a couple years ago? Now that is Kraft mac and cheese for Valentine's Day. Wait, what? Is that real?

Please never call it sweet pink. What? Sweet pink mac and cheese? Where were the memes? A thousand memes should have been born of this product. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure it was real and not just like a made-up thing, but we covered it. It looked disgusting. Sounds foul. Yeah.

Well, is it all hope lost? Is it possible to make a good TV show anymore? Say, in the Star Wars universe, Joelle, whenever we we have you on it's always fun for us to just check in with a project you feel pretty passionately about and right now that sounds like that is the new obi-wan show actually i'm gonna drop two dimes on you guys i'm gonna make it so quick here we go the first one is unexpected go to your hbo go load that bitch up and then go click julia okay if she don't pop up in your main screen there's a little search on the left just type j-u-l-i-a it is a show about julia childs it's uh amazing it is the feel-good show no one is talking it's ted lasso's level of

just brightening up your whole damn day okay imagine julia childs in her 50s she's just gotten done exploring the world with her husband trying to do good for the united states post-world war ii and now they're in boston and they're bored and she gets the brilliant idea to launch her own television show where she cooks and she teaches americans how to fall back in love with food because it's the 50s and we've moved on to like very processed food again post-world war ii they're eating Wonder Bread and like frozen dinners and stuff. And Julia says, no, we're gonna do fancy French cooking and I'm gonna show you that you can do it in your own home

with stuff you can buy at your local grocery store and it's gonna make you feel uplifted. The show is not even about cooking, which I would have loved, but it's a show about four women trying to make a television show and micromanaging the men in their lives to get out of their way so they can work it is sensational guys most of the cast is over 50 which makes my

heart sing i really feel like we don't give people that are you know i don't know above 30 any kind of credit or time on television in a way that is meaningful especially when we're talking about slice of lifestyle shows it's usually like mr, Mr. President, the world is ending. Or like, I'm Jack Bauer, I'm going to shoot some people. Okay, fine. This is a husband and wife trying to make something work. It's like heartwarming and it's beautiful. But on top of all of that,

there are three Black women who write for the show. They turned one of Julia's producers, who was a white woman and the only woman in the department into a black woman now i have all kinds of feelings about you know recasting real life characters as people of color sometimes it doesn't work out so good you know you can look at uh the space movie with the black mathematicians oh my gosh i can't remember what it's called it was hidden figures thank you but hidden figures when they added a white guy to help white audiences understand what was going on to make NASA look less racist, it was bananas and crazy. Here, it's like, what would it have been like to be an actual black woman in television production? And it has nothing to do with civil rights.

Bless it. It's so good. It's so damn good. You have to check out Julia. It's on HBO Max. Okay. Switching gears. Obi-Wan kenobi is out there

are three episodes they dropped two episodes on its premiere friday while star wars celebration was happening then they dropped another episode it comes out wednesdays sorry real quick just how many people get uh cut in half in julia uh luckily no one gets cut not even a stabbing it's so delightful when i say feel good i really mean it it's so uplifting all right now that's just how i rate all my shows so i will be asking that on all show zero sliced men no people get cut and have okay uh now we're moving on to the second one obi-wan kenobi is so good okay i really like Wars, the animated series. If you haven't watched it, but you have seen the prequels, here's what you need to know. The prequels were what they were,

okay? They were coming out of time. The whole special effects they were trying to use were new and, you know, breaking ground as Star Wars tries to do every time it comes up to bat. It's a beautiful try. Some things things landed some things didn't some performances were great some were not it's mixed and i get it clone war said i love star wars so much dave feloni is the showrunner for that i'm gonna make all of that mess make sense and then he did it in eight seasons he made you care about anakin skywalker in a way the movies could never have hope to have touched. They show perfectly the transformation of a hopeful kid who wants to learn to protect people, you know, because he was enslaved and he's like, I don't know how to help everyone around me. I am impossibly at odds against

the universe. And so we're going to give you some power and some training. And how does that go wrong? How does that kid full of hope and aspiration turn bad it's a perfect cell it's so good they introduce so many dope characters who are kind of in the background of the movie and make them full-fledged creatures who have lived full lives and you just care so damn much obi-wan kenobi does that in a completely different way and so instead of expanding the universe and really bringing a lot of richness and and clarity obi-wan says what if the hero you've known all along takes a horrible turn in the prequels he's like i don't know he's he's new at everything but he's coming to himself yeah he's like one of the big brother yeah and he's like a good jedi

he's like a very talented skilled jedi big brother yes and then the originals he's a teacher and wise and he has all these lessons learned old ben kenobi from down the street exactly in the middle of all of that he's lost his father figures the only family he's ever known the brother he kind of raised as a son the the all of his political allies so when we come into obi-wan kenobi series that's where he is he's in between the prequels and the originals having lost everything he's got ptsd he hasn't been a jedi for 10 years he wants no one to know he is he's in hiding he's trying to protect baby luke that's where the show opens and from there it takes you down a twisted road of like the main song and the final prequel movie it's called uh uh duel of the fates in duel of the fates which plays when qui-gon jinn obi-wan's master dies it also has a lot to do with how anakin is. And this whole series is a duel of the fates.

The whole series is a duel of the fates. It's Obi-Wan versus Anakin turned to Darth Vader. And how do you bring balance back to the force when you've lost everything? Guys, it's so good. Deborah Chow directs all of it. And I love her so much. She's so talented and brilliant.

And she directs every episode of this series, which is the first Disney Plus series to to do that have a single director it's a method i really really love uh when film gets to do or sorry when television gets to do that have one director because i think that solo vision brings a lot of clarity moment to moment no one's trying to put it on yep obviously uh no one's trying to leave their fingerprints on it in a unique way it's a singular voice if you haven't seen the nick you should also takes that same approach i i just love it it's so it's so good and you don't have to be a star wars obsessive to find it enjoyable two questions i can't i don't want to tell anymore because it's okay

just two questions so good okay one do they address something that's always stuck out to me is a little bit weird that he is they're trying to lay low they're trying to keep luke off darth vader's radar the vader raider as it's called in uh my expanded universe uh-huh and he in my expanded universe. Uh-huh. And he keeps his name Kenobi, but he doesn't change his last name. They don't,

but you do in the first couple of episodes get the idea that it's an emergency break. You know what I mean? They also don't change Luke's last name. They don't. They let him be a Skywalker, but he's staying with... I guess it's a big universe right it's a big galaxy well not only is it a big universe but Darth Vader I think has difficulty

going back to Tatooine I don't think he wants to be in a place where his mother died and so yeah so and he's with you know Uncle Ben so he could find him if he wanted to but I think he's not trying to go back there okay second and same question i had on julia does anybody get cut in half someone does get cut in half all right that was a great review those were two great reviews i was looking for something to watch uh jack do you have a a movie or a tv show where there's record numbers of people getting cut in half? I don't off the top of my head. I would have to get my spreadsheet out and it might crash my computer. It's a long, ongoing documentation.

I do Friday the 13th. I will sometimes, when things are especially bleak and this did happen when Mercury was in retrograde, I will just watch one of those kill compilations of Friday the 13th kills. Oh, not even the movie. No, no, no, no, no, no. Just the kill comp. I'm very bad.

Yeah, I know. It's bad. Yeah, no, it's not good. I have a broken, sad part of me. And it feeds on that. It's usually like late at night in like a room by myself after I put the kids to bed. And I'm just like, give it to me. Kids are asleep, time for murder.

Some good ones on Friday the 13th, 6th that I just watched. One guy gets folded in half. Oh, no. Which is kind of cool. I don't like that. No, I don't like it either. I don't like it at all. But yeah, those were my favorite movies when I was like eight. And there's still a part of me that's like, let's check those out again. So it's a little bit comforting. You're like, oh. Yeah, it is my dark, shitty, oh, that same old fold and half. Yeah, it is my dark, shitty, 80s American child comfort food, which, appropriate.

Well, Emily, as always, it is such a pleasure having you on Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? Thank you. It was so much fun to be on here. I'm on Instagram and Twitter at EmilyMCWinter. It's Emily McWinter. Made it a long time ago my middle name's mckenna i messed it up but uh so it's a stupid handle emily mc winter uh my website is emilywintercomedy.com and you can get my book one day smarter wherever you get books it's good could also be emily mc winter like you are a Mr. Freeze style rapper.

Right. That could not be further from myself, but we'll go with it. I was paying a drum teacher when I was in college to teach me how to play the drums and he said, I can do this anymore because you have no rhythm so yeah uh there's no way but yeah and he meant just life in general right he was like i just walked off muttering into the ocean just walked into the lake into lake mendota in wisconsin yeah quietly and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying so i feel like i've just been doing long form stuff. I like have not been on Twitter in the last couple of weeks. But there is a comedy album that I super loved that just came out. It's Ophira Eisenberg's Plant Based Jokes, which is so funny about having kids, which I do not, but I still found it very funny. It's a great album. And I just finished a good book called Bullet Train that I loved about bumbling sort of incompetent criminals on a train in Tokyo.

And there's a movie coming out. Yeah. They're going to white it up, baby. Okay. I think Brad Pitt's in it as a young Japanese guy, which makes no sense. All right. Joelle, always so wonderful having you as guest co-host. Where can people find you?

And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah. I'm Joelle Monique. You can find me all over the internet at Joelle Monique. It's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. A tweet. Oh, also, please, please, please check out comic-con metapod uh we have had so many fun guests on the show uh kevin bacon's gonna be on our next show which i'm really excited about

i'm going to resist playing six degrees of kevin bacon but it'll be a fun show a lot of other great people have been on donald uh fazon and seth green were on we had jean carlo esposito come through i'm missing, but just go check it out. It's a whole lot of fun. Kevin Bacon. I know, right? I'm really nervous and excited, a little sweaty. A tweet I'm enjoying.

Kathy Najimy, the great, you know her from Hocus Pocus, tweeted, at Kim Cattrall, sending you all the love and support in the world today. One of the best, most authentic humans in the business and maybe the world. Dinner soon, my love. And if you're not caught up on the Sex and the City gossip, it may mean nothing to you. But the fact that Kathy is out here saying, no, SJP, I'm standing by Kim. It just delights my soul. I love old lady drama. That's rude. I love mature. That sounds like a porn category. Oh, gosh. How do I say this? Adult women. I love distinguished women and their drama.

It really uplifts me. It makes me feel just full of light. So shout out to Kathy and Jimmy for just supporting her gal. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweets I've been enjoying. Have I been enjoying any tweets at daughter underscore? I on tweeted is a hot dog, a sandwich in quotes,

and then follow up. Do you make the people in your life happy? Which? Oh, harsh. Okay. Yeah. But I don't know.

People who are too obsessed with that question probably need to take a long look in the mirror. And then Jomie Dennerarin tweeted i'm crying and then it's a meme probably not original but i made me laugh and it reminded me of what we were talking about today it's the screen caps from the original star wars uh it's darth vader saying you fools did anyone see the droids who got away with the death star plans and then his sidekick who I think he ends up force choking and saying, My lord, it seems to have been a blue R2 unit and an effete protocol droid. And then Darth Vader says, Oh, word? LMFAO. Those my boys. Which is a continuity problem.

That would have been better if he just said that. Because he knows R2. knows c3po he never sees them take the plans i digress yeah i don't know blue r2 unit a fee protocol droid but i guess again we'll just go with it it's a large universe uh you could be like huh but also they wrote that before they had any idea that this there was going to be a sequel so you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Super producer, Justin. Do you have a song that you think people might enjoy? I do, as Miles and I share an affinity for Hiatus Coyote. I wanted to shout out one of their lesser known projects.

This is a track called Sphinx Gate backslash the world it softly lulls you really get to hear napalm the lead singer stretch out her vocals and there's a really cool uh switch up maybe a third of the way through the song where it goes from this chill jazz lounge type of vibe to a very neo soul r&b a little more up tempo but it's it's man it's a real vibe so you can check this out in the footnotes that's hiatus coyote sphinx gate the world itself you go the real move to recommend hiatus coyote one miles of that that's like power move i love it, go listen to that. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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