The Daily Zeitgeist - WaPo = Forced Birth Ally? Subway “Tuna” = Tuna and Other Stuff? 07.19.22

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

In episode 1290, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, writer and host of Senior Superlatives, Greta Titelman, to discuss… This Politico Article Demonstrates The Horrifying Way The MSM Has R...esponded to Roe Being Overturned, Subway TunaGate: It’s def tuna, but def some other things too..., Major League Baseball Has a Vaccine Problem and more! This Politico Article Demonstrates The Horrifying Way The MSM Has Responded to Roe Being Overturned Subway TunaGate: It’s def tuna, but def some other things too... Major League Baseball Has a Vaccine Problem Unvaccinated M.L.B. players will not be allowed to play in Canada. American-born players represent 94% of MLB's unvaccinated barred from Canada due to COVID mandate Every Toronto Blue Jays home series reveals more problems with MLB’s weak Covid policy LISTEN: Summer Madness S.A. by Karriem Riggins Check Out: Clown Parade PodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 The production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, July 19th, 2022. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Come on, Jack, you know July 19th is only one thing. National Words with Friends Day. We're back in fucking, what is that, There's only one thing. National Words with Friends Day. We're back in fucking, what is that, 2011? Are we back?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Is Words with Friends back? No. I think that feels like a very 2011 holiday. The internet just forgot to delete this off of the celebration list. Look, if you're in a tropical environment and you're trying to get booze, it's also a national dapper. Okay. Or if you're not in a tropical environment and you're trying to get booze he still has no national dapper okay or if you're not in a tropical environment and you just want just like a lot of sugar with your sugary rum
Starting point is 00:02:51 you know just you like sugar i like sugar someone in the some american engineer created it in 1898 during the spanish-american okay this is already tooAmerican That sounds like they're stealing some shit from people they met in a country they were colonizing and were like, look what I invented. What's this island called? Daiquiri. Okay, I think we got a name now. I think we're in business.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Alright, well my name is Jack O'Brien aka No Starbucks Never Had Hope In the Chicken Sandwich Game O'Brien, a.k.a. No Starbucks never had hope in the chicken sandwich game. Yes, your mother and child reunion made me sick. Now I
Starting point is 00:03:33 gotta complain. That is a... It's Paul Simon's mother and child reunion. So shout out to the quarantine kids hearing us talk about that being the name for when you stick an egg with a chicken. Yep. In a dish.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yep. In a dish. Starbucks tried it. Didn't go well. I feel like that's like a deep cut, the mother and child reunion, but it's like a deep cut off his greatest hits album. So I don't know what you call that. It's like not one of his top five.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's for the head. That's for the head. It's for the greatest hits. Deep cut heads. The true Simon heads. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:04:15 When the sun shines, we'll shine together. Told you I'll eat you forever. Said I'll always be your friend. Took your notes, I'ma stick it till the end now with more lawsuits than ever know that we'll still have each other i believe subway uses real tuna i believe subway real uses real tuna una una a a a subway use real tuna okay shout out to la caroni it's like you look there were the judge allowed like the lawsuit that's like yo the subway tuna is not tuna lawsuit oh we're talking about it i
Starting point is 00:04:52 know so i'm just saying it's gonna be good timing because guess what i'm i have shit to say okay that's fun i love that well speaking of fun and things we love, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliantly talented comedian, actor, writer, who you know from Los Espookys, a shrill search party. Please welcome back to the show, Greta Teitelman! Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I want you to know that Mother and Child Reunion by Paulon is like one of my favorite paul simon songs wow amazing yeah yeah it's a good one it opens up with that egg beater guitar it is a little bit of a deep cut it's a deep cut but it's it really does hit and also i ride very hard for subway tuna well there we go perfect well look at that see we nailed it about me little bit about me so it's so i'm not i'm not the biggest paul simon fan like i know a good amount of the songs but how did how do you how did you come into contact with your most favorite child and daughter reunion song like how did you end up interacting with it? With that Paul Simon song?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'm hearing it's a deep cup. I mean, like, is it just one of those things? If you grew up around Simon parents, it was just blasting or something.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah. I also think that like, there's something very East coast. Summertime about listening to Paul Simon. That's okay. James Taylor. If you were born in the window of
Starting point is 00:06:27 1980 to 1995, I'm going to give you a 15-year window. I feel like you had exposure at some point in an East Coast
Starting point is 00:06:43 summer to listening to Paul Simon paul simon bruce springsteen james taylor right right you know little billy uh billy joel although that was kind of a year round for my family yeah we were a we were a big greatest hits family we had all the greatest hits albums for like all of those people so i had very you know i wasn't going beyond that very like white east coast family vibes right yeah exactly that makes so much because you know her majesty who also grew up in the same region you did she like she was all she always puts on paul simon like on a long car ride like, you know, my dad always just used to play it. So I'm like, this is some nailed on cultural shit.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's very like, we're hot. We still have the AC going, but it's so humid that we can't avoid it. We're in the car four hours. We're driving to Rehoboth. We're listening to, you know. Oh, you're going to Rehoboth? I'm not going to Rehoboth personally. We are more of a Nantucket family ourselves.
Starting point is 00:07:49 But Rehoboth. The Nantucket drive was so long. I just wanted to say it with the accent. With that Delaware accent. Yeah. Rehoboth. Rehoboth. I'm going back to the Jersey Shore in about a week and a half.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So make my annual pilgrimage. Manco and Manco pizza. Okay. The boards. manco manco pizza okay uh the boards we're gonna go up the boards we're gonna get some uh manco manco and uh yeah i'm i'm pumped i can't wait and be great and and then a week in pittsburgh hey love pittsburgh my dad's from pittsburgh oh really my uh in-laws are from Pittsburgh. And there we go. And I grew up in Wheeling, West Virginia, which is like kind of a suburb, sneaky suburb of Pittsburgh. Anyways, we're all connected. We're going to get to know you a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:08:38 We're all connected. We're all connected. In a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about just the mainstream media articles in the aftermath of Roe being overturned and how they're covering the case of the 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to get a legal abortion and just the way that that's being covered, miscovered, and yeah, just where we're at. Where we're at with the mainstream media. Not just the right wing, the mainstream media as well. We're going to talk about Subway Tuna Gate. We have new developments that are shocking. It's tuna, all right? It's not a tuna.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It is tuna. It is a tuna. And maybe some other things. And we'll talk about Major League Baseball. It's like the one year, one time a year when it's okay to talk about Major League Baseball because the All-Star Game is happening. And did you know that shit was happening in LA, Miles? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. Oh, okay. And I knew because all the people who work at Dodger Stadium authorized a strike. I don't know if there's striking at the stadium but it's yeah so there's like a news peg with it because like somebody hit me up and was like hey man like i'm thinking of paying absurd amounts money to go to the to watch men swing sticks the home run derby yeah i am so not invested in baseball at all like in of of all sports, I love watching sports. I love hockey. I love tennis. I love
Starting point is 00:10:07 basketball. I will watch football, but, like, for some reason, baseball is just so long. Right. So long. But I think that, like, an all-star situation I could be into. Yeah. Yeah. There's more fun stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:10:24 The home run derby is basically what baseball should be. If they made baseball again today, I feel like that's what it would be. It's just people trying to hit as many home runs as possible. I couldn't go. I kind of wanted to go, but him
Starting point is 00:10:39 inviting me was the first I had learned that it was in LA. LA is the snobbiest port city it's just like yeah okay everything's overpriced like for sports you know like that's the problem it's a very you know it's different like the dodgers are like one of the few places you can go and not like go bankrupt enjoying a day at the day at the ballpark anyways depending on how good my seats were i might have caught covid is COVID is the moral of the story. Because it seems like half of Major League Baseball players are unvaccinated.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And it's the American half. It's all dudes from America are unvaccinated. It's pretty funny. We'll get to all of that plenty more. But first, Greta, we'd like to ask ask our guest what is something from your search history well obviously being very topical I was searching this morning JLo and Ben Affleck's wedding yes I can't believe it happened you know I felt like is this the most interesting thing about my personality is anyone gonna going to glean anything about, you know, the, the mystery that I shroud myself in as Greta Teitelman, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:49 no, but it's important nonetheless. And I think it's something that the daily zeitgeist, you know, it is in the daily zeitgeist. It's very important, big piece of pop culture. And she confirmed that she changed her name to Jennifer Lynn Affleck.
Starting point is 00:12:04 No, that's wild, right? Like that is an amazing, she confirmed that she changed her name to Jennifer Lynn Affleck. No. That's wild, right? Like, that is an amazing, a wild swing. She's now just Jaffleck? She's Jaffleck. Oh, my God. The branding. She's going to get a duck to quack Jaffleck.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Jaffleck. Yeah. Wow. Wait, so her middle name is Lynn? Her middle name is Lynn. She was always Jennifer Lynn Lopez. Right. But now she's Jennifer Lynn Aflac.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And to me, I was really taken aback. I was like, oh, damn. She took the last name. Yeah. I don't have Abe's last name. I love Abe, but I'm like, uh-uh, honey. I'm not taking anybody's last name. The paperwork alone, I don't want to deal with. I got a good thing going with this. Yeah. Yeah. I need all new Abe's last name. I love Abe, but I'm like, uh-uh, honey. I'm not taking anybody's last name. The paperwork alone, I don't want to deal with.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I got a good thing going with this. Yeah. Like, I need all new everything cards? No. No. No. Social security? You're out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:12:53 No. Like, what's... I mean, I guess she's not really dealing with that. She has, like, a team of people that are executing on that for her. But still, it's like she never became, you know... She's been J-Lo for so long yeah i mean she still will be j-lo forever but yeah now she's javlek i hope i mean i hope that's a signal that this is enduring that this isn't some flash in the pan thing that this is they're like for her it's like
Starting point is 00:13:18 to show yo like i really feel good about this man with the phoenix tattoo on his back i think that i think that they are like really legit in love i really do i feel like to come back around 20 years later like there's something there oh you know and for like what they've been and they've been through a lot too like they've had their share of like shitty like marriages so i feel like yeah it does feel like that thing where it's like like in a rom-com where they have to go through like the other dating scenarios to be like you know what in the end it was all about this one me me and jaff lack and also the sign of a true like icon and media just like genius that like that that is the thing that could i i would not have noticed this story had it not been for her actually taking his name which was even though it's like the
Starting point is 00:14:12 traditional thing was the most unexpected thing she could have done like it seems so strange that she would take his last name she's like a bigger star than he is right kind of a lot i like how we have like this game of thrones like concept conception of this marriage you're like she would sully her name with house affleck well because you know is when you become an icon of that status you are your name like right there are very few people it's literally like share, Beyonce, JLo it's like Prince there are very few people that are singular in their name sure and then to like change it it's it's you know whatever yeah I guess not many people are like calling her Jennifer Lopez necessarily they're calling her JLo so like that that is still. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah. So in a way, maybe it's cowardly. It's like, you know what? Until you start going by Jennifer Affleck in public, it's meaningless. When I saw Jennifer Affleck, I thought it was Jennifer Garner. I was like, wait, Jennifer Garner changed her name back then? See, I don't even
Starting point is 00:15:21 think Jennifer Garner changed her name to Jennifer Affleck. That would be wild, though, if he was going around just creating Jennifer Affleck. Collecting gens, that's his kink. He's like, I will turn every Jennifer in the United States into Jennifer Affleck. Hey, Janet, you ever think about changing your name to Jennifer? No, it's not my name. All right, just think about it. Why did you ask me that?
Starting point is 00:15:44 You're asking me that, Ben? I was going to say something and then I forgot about names and that was really dumb and I don't know why I said I was going to say something and then I forgot. She should go by Jennifer Affleck and not J-Lo. Ben Affleck, Beyonce, I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:59 what I was going to say. Here's what I will say. When Kim Kardashian West changed her name back to Kim Kardashian, what a branding nightmare. She had built like KKW beauty and all these other things. And then she's has since relaunched everything else, but it's kind of like, it's hard. It's hard to counterpoint. Like, it's hard. It's hard to... Or, counterpoint, it's like when, you know, an athlete can change their jersey number
Starting point is 00:16:28 and just sell more jerseys because they're like, oh, yeah, I'm this new number now. And people are like, fuck, well, now I got to buy this version. I remembered what I was going to say. When Mariah Carey married Nick Cannon and Nick Cannon got Mariah tattooed from literally canon got mariah tattooed from literally shoulder to shoulder across his back and she got mc tattooed on her wrist for her new initials even though they were the same as her old initials oh i don't know that is perfect that is that's the hack right there 100 mariah carey uh delivering delivering full mariah carey oh that's so nice honey here's what i did i got one too but those are your initials yeah mariah cannon right yeah and i'd like you to write my vows as well as yours thank you yeah that's the vibes I'm getting from that. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Hot dogs. Uh-oh. Really having a moment right now. Why? Is this how someone brought this up already on the show? No, no, no. No, not at all. I think the closest we got to was putting a banana in a hot dog with peanut butter and jelly. No, no.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That was a little insight to my weekend. Jack sent me a picture of a, on the air. I saw that. Banana in brioche with Nutella and he did it and he got the approval from children. I'm like, stoner, chef, goat. Yeah. It was glizzy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Nutella glizzy, aka the Miles Gray. The Miles Grizzly. You know what I mean? Here's what I'm going to say. I'm going gonna say this hot dogs underrated hamburgers overrated it's barbecue season i'm just here to tell everyone i don't like coming to your barbecue and not being presented with a hot dog like to me yeah they're delicious when you with it's a special food it's a special food. It's a summer food. It's seasonal. It's a seasonal delight in my mind. I'm not eating a hot dog in winter. I'm eating a hamburger in winter. But you know what I love? A hot dog in summer. Because to me, nothing says summer like a crispy dog on an open flame in a martin's potato roll honey okay okay what's wait what kind of frank are we talking you got specific with the bun what kind of frank yes
Starting point is 00:18:52 so i like this from a german butcher shop in scranton pennsylvania they make really good hot dogs and that's what my aunt gets and those things are really good but you know get your local butcher shop hot dog get get a good good quality dog okay if you can't fuck with that i don't care give me a all beef hebrew natty give me a ballpark frank like how about nathan's nathan's sure i'm not gonna be i'm not i'm not gonna be crazy over here just want the option. I want it to be charred on the grill, put it on a little bun, give me ketchup, mustard, relish, chopped onion if we're feeling crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Hot dogs are almost unfuck-up-able, too. I mean, there's probably varying levels, but the worst hot dog is like a 4 out of 10 on what delivering on your expectations for a hot dog chart, whereas a bad burger... A bad burger is gross. It makes you
Starting point is 00:19:55 want to throw up. I will say, have you ever spiral cut a hot dog? No. Is that when you just cut around it? Yeah. Like if you take a link and then you just kind of rotate it along your knife blade and get it like a nice spiral cut down the length of it. So when you grill it, you get more surface area that chars up because I like a little bit of char crunchy to it.
Starting point is 00:20:20 So by doing that, it like kind of even lengthens it a little bit. So if you have a longer bun, it'll fit your bun, get more charred surface area. Anyway, try it. So by doing that, it like kind of even lengthens it a little bit. So if you have a longer bun, it'll fit your bun, get more charge surface area. Anyway, try it. It's a delight. More girth and more length, honey on that hot dog.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And that's what we're always looking for. Addition through subtraction. Wow. What does it come out as? Does it come out as like a curly, like a, does it look like a pig's tail? Like depending on how deep you cut it,
Starting point is 00:20:44 right? Like if you go too deep, like it will get a little's tail like depending on how deep you cut it right like if you go too deep like it will get a little fucking spooky but as long as you can kind of get down like the way you could do it is like take like a like a kebab skewer or something like put a wood skewer through it that way you know you won't cut fully through because you have that in the core of it got it also if you want to go even further you render some bacon fat and you pan fry that shit in the rendered bacon fat. And you got you got like a ripper that isn't quite a ripper. Anyway, that's my two cents.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You know what I cannot get behind? And I saw it on TikTok. People slicing the middle of hot dogs, opening it up, filling it with burger meat and making like a hamburger hot dog combo. Turducken thing? Yeah. Fuck that. No, it's like, let's just give me a good hot dog combo. Turducken thing? Yeah. Fuck that. No. It's like, let's just give me a good hot dog and that's it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Heard. Heard. Yeah. The internet needs to just shut the fuck up every once in a while. Yeah. Just be like, go grill with some human beings and see how they feel about that that bullshit if i come to your barbecue and you are giving me some frankenstein's monster ass like hot dog hamburger combo i'm leaving i'm not you you scare me as an individual that is an aggressive act of violence towards you it is if you if you're
Starting point is 00:22:03 experimenting on me with your tiktok bullshit no no no unless you're like wait till you try it and it actually pays off but otherwise please spare me no and also i'm gonna put it out there a little cruel to the animals like it adds like a layer of animal cruel like humiliation to the animal the normal animal cruelty that we're condoning by eating the animals to be like, I'm going to stick you inside of you. It's just like, come on, man. How does it rank next to mother and
Starting point is 00:22:32 daughter? Mother and child reunion is still worse. Mother and child reunion is still worse than wrapping a hot dog in ground beef. A mother and child reunion being taking a chicken egg and chicken and eating it together. Is that what you're saying yeah that's fucking disgusting now i'm just gonna make a mother and child reunion that's what that song's about that's what that song's about it's about oyako donburi from japan
Starting point is 00:22:57 it's when he was on tour in japan he was offered oyako donburi, we do know he likes to take, quote, inspiration from going to foreign countries. Great science. Yeah, right? Yeah. He's a good, he's a skilled thief, I would say. But voice like an angel. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
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Starting point is 00:25:37 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player
Starting point is 00:25:48 needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:25:53 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
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Starting point is 00:27:35 And we're back. And I think it's pretty well made the rounds, but, you know, truly horrifying turn of events, entirely predictable, probably happening more frequently than people realize. A 10-year-old rape victim crossed state lines to get a legal abortion in Indiana because it was illegal in her home state of Ohio. And this was reported in the Indianapolis Star.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And they, the right, immediately started claiming it was fake news and bullshit. But actually, the first people to claim it was fake news was the Washington Post. So Biden cited the article when he was doing his speech about his executive order was it was that the speech where he was like again read again for emphasis oh yeah i think when that when i was out yeah so he the washington post like i guess they really wanted to like give biden a couple pinocchios or whatever the fuck they do there so they like did this fact check where they were like glenn glenn kessler from the washington post was like a one-source story about a 10 year old and an abortion goes viral and was just kept leaning on the fact that it was a one-source story which it was by necessity because it is about a 10 year old you fucking ghoul like
Starting point is 00:29:10 it needs to be about a 10 year old and also it's about a 10 year old who is technically like doing something that some people like powerful people in her state would think is illegal and want to make illegal so the head of the Neiman Lab read an article about how, you know, journalists need to get comfortable with writing stories where there's not like the thorough sourcing that they're used to because now a bunch of Americans are living in a state where just like getting health care life-saving health care is illegal um and everybody's fucking terrified of going to jail so like i i think that's a very good point i think it's like probably a deeper thing but i don't know what i mean a lot
Starting point is 00:29:58 of it's born out of people like jesse waters being like this story sounds like he's on fox thinking like it's unimaginable yeah like that this would happen yeah but that's the point that laura hazard owen from the neiman lab is saying is like yes there will continue to be these quote unimaginable stories because we're unfortunately in a time where this is happening and to act like you have to like sort of rely on these old conventions of like well how many stories can or how many people can we cite to do it and if we can't then we just need to call it fake that's massively dangerous and it and it does it does a disservice to the people who are fighting for their reproductive rights also we're talking about a child like i mean i don't we should we
Starting point is 00:30:42 be talking about anyone and i would still feel the same way. But it's like, I'm talking about a 10-year-old here. Like, a 10-year-old where in the eyes of some legislators in the state, they want her to be deemed a murderer. They want her to face murder charges. A 10-year-old. Yeah. It makes me so sick. Right. So so so sick that i'm just i i think it's unfathomable to me and i think that there is a huge problem with mainstream
Starting point is 00:31:16 media across the board it's like it's not it's no to me it's no longer just a black and white, like, oh, of course it's Fox being crazy. Yeah, it's like the fucking Washington Post, too. It's like, what's going on? Everyone's lost their mind. An abortion by a 10-year-old is pretty rare, Kessler notes. So, first of all, by a 10-year-old, you motherfucker? Like, what are you talking about and second of all they the columbus dispatch reported in 2020 52 people under the age of 15 received an abortion in ohio that year so that's weekly bro like what what are you saying is rare like that's that's rare to the
Starting point is 00:31:58 point that you're like good you're like we're good here it's wild because it's like they're only like in the way they they like report on this stuff. It's like they they don't want to accept the reality that they may have created by like both sides. Yeah. People who talk like this for decades. And I think that's what like even to Greta's point is that so many of these write ups are caught up in the like, this is a bad look for the gop or like oh maybe joe biden's line completely misses the point that a child is having to be in one of the most distressful moments of their life and living in a state that would treat them hostile and you know
Starting point is 00:32:38 that this is this is all occurring at the same time but we're we're focusing on like the the horse race of like electoral politics rather than like the humanity of people having their rights curtailed and that's what's i think the biggest disservice with all the coverage is like rather than constant pointing out objectively it doesn't have to be an opinion piece that these people have a plan to take away your rights just point by point but it's always like well well you know what is this what is this how's this gonna play i've heard like a choice movement think of it when they stories about how it's like fading the impact is fading of the overturning of row like as a
Starting point is 00:33:18 political thing like just talking about the fucking like voting and how much people are gonna vote yeah well we've just seen already like states like Idaho, the Republican Party is already changing the platform of the party to include like forced birth and like the most violent anti-trans stuff. So I don't know if that's fading and I'm not sure what they mean unless that's a salve for you to continue to, you know, sort of bury your head in the sand over what's actually occurring in real time right now. No, they mean it's fading in terms of like making Democrats care about voting, like just like giving it up for a lost cause being like. And this isn't the most impactful decision that voters think about when going to the polls.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So it's just they're both sides in it and also just telling a version of events where it's like but this is the way it is folks and it's they're talking about fucking the most inhumane fucking like anti-human bullshit like it's it's crazy i do think though that the question that remains especially for i mean younger generation of voters is like, does it matter? Right. And I think that when we watch, you know, people make decisions for a country where the majority of the country is against the decision, it does make you feel like, well, what the fuck is the point? Yeah. I think that's a huge mindfuck for a lot of people. And I think that it's something that I'm definitely extremely concerned about, especially
Starting point is 00:34:55 with the midterms and everything coming up and who's going to be running for president. And it's just, it's all just so scary and volatile and sad. And I think that we're so, so, so, so, so beyond divided that it's almost like we've become desensitized to these issues that are humanitarian crisis,
Starting point is 00:35:20 climate crisis, all of these things that are so much bigger than whether or not you're a fucking right or left winger it's like well it's just we're seeing this play out in like multiple arenas right where like the accepted wisdom of the 20th century or way of doing things worked for the 20th century we are now in a completely different place like whether that's the pandemic and how to handle the pandemic and like the economics of a pandemic. There are so many ways that people need to begin thinking about how we do things in new ways. But it's everything's being done like just in the status quo way.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And now people wondering like why nothing works the way it does. Like we don't have a media apparatus that can properly convey to people what is actually happening and who is responsible because it's trapped in this like very like kumbaya, like Republicans and Democrats can't get along and we don't want to take shots at people who are actively trying to harm others and take away their rights. And we're not able to authentically describe those kinds of actions for what they are. And then even with, you know, with stories like this, they're finding themselves in places where they're looking at a situation now where, you know, the activities are potentially like anyone with a uterus in this country could become illegal. And they're like, well, how do you report that stuff? Like, is anyone going to want to talk to us? Because I need like nine on the record sources. sources if not what's the point of reporting it it's like well the point of reporting
Starting point is 00:36:48 it is to let people know the state of things across the country and it's grim for a lot of people but you know we also have a lot of you know these like these journalists journalistic outlets are in places where the threats aren't necessarily the same. So it's all like morphed into this way that isn't, it's not, nothing is properly working. Right. The New York, there's a New York Times piece that does a good job of like, it talks about the 10 year old case that talks about a person who had a miscarriage and had to fly from Texas to Colorado and like spend thousands of dollars to fly to Colorado for an abortion sitting in the front row so that she could reach the bathroom quickly in case she had
Starting point is 00:37:29 to deliver like good details, good like journalism of like what this shit actually looks like in people's lives. And that story is in the opinion section. And it's an opinion column because the facts of the article so strongly support one side's argument that it has to go in the opinion section and it's an opinion column because the facts of the article so strongly support one side's argument that it has to go in the opinion section rather than being like 20 point front across font across the front of the newspaper the way it fucking deserves to be when there are human rights violations happening by like your government like the and yeah i mean miles you alluded to this like politico article like this idea like they they have these quotes from these like republican strategists about the 10 year old case and they're like i'm not touching this story
Starting point is 00:38:19 with a 10 foot pole wrapped in a blanket wrapped in a whatever. And it's just like, and the piece itself is like, the case has become an instant flashpoint in the nation's abortion wars, alarming Republicans as they try to use abortion to rally base voters without alienating the majority of Americans who say abortion should remain legal. It's like reading coverage of how the Rwandan genocide is like a politically risky gambit for the Hutus. It's like you are living in a fucking nightmare and you're talking about like it's political optics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I mean, I feel like it feels like it's just a symptom of how the United States operates. Right. like it's just a symptom of how the united states operates right like we've thoroughly devalued the what that what a human life is worth just in the name of profit and like wars of conquest and things like that that it it's poisoned even how we talk about what's happening with each other like it's just even like yeah well that's not a bad that's a bad look not sure what the human cost is because that never factors into a single thing that is done in this country and it's like that's how you see this reporting play out to the point where like you're saying oh that's like it's almost like a hot take or an
Starting point is 00:39:35 opinion to like thoroughly describe the situation a human being is in because like well that's too that's too compelling for one side like what the fuck that's the truth and that's what people need to know right also just a general avoidance of not wanting to talk about the reality that now we're all going to be living in it's like well you can't you either need to be able to talk about the reality that these people built for us or maybe assess why it should never happen in the first place. And I think it's just the cowardice and the general avoidance of being able to be like, yep, we're dealing with the fact that a 10 year old, a child is pregnant. We're not even talking about how or why what those circumstances are and you know i can't i literally like i can't even it makes me so mad and hopeless as a woman like i like we
Starting point is 00:40:36 just don't have rights yeah as a woman as a child i mean like as a child you don't have rights as a woman you don't have rights but don't worry your unborn baby has more rights than you do. So. Right. Even if it costs everyone their life. Yeah. In which case, what is that all for? And, you know, there's even the idea that people are like, there's like an article in the New Republic. It's like, don't expect the corporations to save you either. Oh, definitely. Yeah. every level yeah it is you look at things and you're like jesus what what where does the the bit of like respite come from and yeah the more you think about it's like it's you know having to accept that the leadership is really unable to do those things and having to
Starting point is 00:41:36 you know figure out like as human beings how to do that for each other and it's just it's all just very new for people who i think are used to this idea that it's like yeah yeah you vote for these things and then these very basic rights stay in place and you know they can bicker about the other things going on but yeah there's not much to protect us these days the idea that this is like not a politically like that it's not going to win elections or that it's like becoming less impactful with voters or it's not like the main like people vote with their wallet and they're going to vote based on what they see at the gas prices like that's being said by the same people who are covering this story in such like an unaccountably like drab and bland way that
Starting point is 00:42:22 makes it seem like we live in like an unbreakable system where this is just like part of a game instead it does feel that way it does feel like we live in an unbreakable system sometimes in the other way i think yes right and i think that it's like i don't know maddening yeah It is maddening, for sure. But I think the fact that our entire corporate media apparatus is just speaking in terms of wins and losses and optics and who's going to win and who's going to lose. They've lost perspective they they have lost like any sort of sense of proportion i feel like and it's i don't know and instead of covering it like a human rights crisis they're covering it like a politically like risky gambit by the fucking Republicans. Yeah. I mean, you saw how much, you know, like even the invasion of Ukraine by Russia got a lot
Starting point is 00:43:29 of that got a lot of like inches of people saying like, this is terrible. This is a human rights violation. And, you know, because at the end of the day, that benefits a military industrial complex. So there's a reason to cover that in a way that like like urgency and action has to be part of like the narrative around it. And you look at something like this and it's like it's it's it's clear that like just the idea that protecting or sanctifying someone's humanity and what their physical rights are. physical rights are and like the curtailing of that isn't like this top of the line issue every single day for the people who are you know communicating to like you know the public that that rely on them to know what's going on that makes it yeah it just makes it feel very yeah uh yeah just you you realize what is more important at times and again like we're reminded over and
Starting point is 00:44:23 over there's no amount of climate change death or child shooting deaths or things like that that can really affect things because, you know, it's not always it's not always like a profitable thing to say, like kids just like we need less guns so children can be safe or we need less goddamn fossil fuel extraction so we can have a planet for people down the road. But Greta, your point about like it does feel like this unbroken, unbreakable system that it just like refuses to like hear what we're saying or like refuses to observe our humanity. Like there are times when people like break through that and all they do is just like be, like, no, so, like, this thing is obviously fucking insane that, like, you know, like, Bernie Sanders or AOC or, you know, any of the people who, like, have a stance that is, like, no, this isn't be a given the these are like wide open blatant like uh ways we're being mistreated and like here are some things we could do about it and like the thing that makes it feel so much like it's unchangeable and unbreakable and like you know not even worth like imagining a different way is that the entire mainstream media like just
Starting point is 00:45:47 ignores the fuck out of those people like just completely and so the way they talk about things is completely in the in this other way that just makes it's like designed to sap you of all like imagination and energy i feel like that's capitalism, honey. Yeah. It's, it's very good at what it does. Capitalism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Cause I mean, even then they can't even describe like the forces of it all that play out like on top of it. It's like every single issue or it's like misogyny or white supremacy or whatever. It's like, it's like these concepts that are as clear as fucking day. And even then they're like,
Starting point is 00:46:23 well, well, you know, some people think women or people with uteruses aren't fucking human. And we get this like very obscure retelling of what we're experiencing. And it, yeah, it unfortunately keeps a lot of people like in a position of like questioning and wondering like what's going on versus being able to tell people this is what's going on and this is what needs to change yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tikt. And I'm Clea Gray, former member
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Starting point is 00:51:14 and we're back and it's tunagate it's back it's the story that you know i think miles you said it's the story that like is number one on your like list of just like ballot initiatives like things that you are concerned about yes like well and also the thing that most frequently is i gang tags me in on twitter and instagram if anything is happening with subway tuna they either i have my supporters who are like they can't hold us down or i have people being like is this your king you ride for subway tuna oh yeah it's so good. Till the fucking fins come off. Okay. Honey wheat. Oh, wow. I've never had a honey wheat.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Okay. I've always had it just shoveling it into my mouth with my hands. You just say pint, no bread. Exactly. I'm like, yo, just give me the bag. Just give me the bag before you eat it. And then you say I take a little sun chip on the side. I'll take a little sun chip. Take a little French onion sun chip.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. Perfect. And a mousse bouche is what we call it. Delicious. Delicious. But yeah, people know I love the subway tune. I love all,
Starting point is 00:52:14 I love tuna sandwiches. I grew up eating tuna sandwiches as a kid. So like when I had like that little moment where I had like a little bit of pocket money as like a preteen and like on my bike and like you could go to subway. That was like me feeling like an adult i'm like i have experience with tuna sandwich and i will now i will now order this rather than being like mom what do i like here so i have like this this connection with the subway tuna now people know briefcase i'm just picturing little miles riding his bike carrying a briefcase full of just dripping out of the briefcase all my subway
Starting point is 00:52:45 little like wet mayo drip yeah condensation oh man remember the old wrapping paper that they used to have like old victorian drawings of like the early new york subway yeah yes from our real heads when they were doing the u gouge and cutting the u-shaped like hole out the top and then not down the side. I totally forgot about that. Wait, I forgot about that. What? The U gouge. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So if you look now, people take the bread and they just slice it down the side and open it. The way normal people. Back in the day, they used to cut around. They would like lay it like this and cut around the tops. So it was gouged out in a U shape. Treat it like a giant bread bowl. Yeah. I remember that. Oh, fuck bowl i forgot about that too remember
Starting point is 00:53:27 the little top if they fuck if they weren't a real artist with it that you the top would be like mad thing it would just like be soaked in like two seconds anyway all that to say is the u-gouge yeah it's called the u-gouge uh those knives really well it was like pumpkin carving yeah 100 they were quick with it too this lawsuit hit like like about a year ago it's like where these people were alleging subway is fucking lying there is no tuna we took it to get dna tested they said this what the fuck is this is what the lab results said and the story came back in the news because a judge basically i think subway was like hey man like let's just call it a day. We don't need to let this trial move forward.
Starting point is 00:54:08 The judge is like, no, like we will hear more in the trial of is this fake tuna or not? So the most headlines I've gotten in years. Yeah, truly. The most important court case I'll ever have. Right. Exactly. He's like, I'll allow it. So the takeout shot of the takeout there, they're looking at sort of just generally, they're like, you know, they're giving us some insight into how this sort of analysis
Starting point is 00:54:32 or like why the murky tuna thing even occurs. So the way they talk about is Subway says that they are, they got like most of their tuna is skipjack tuna and it's 100% sustainable, et cetera, et cetera. The takeout talks about how like they're the most sustainable version of catching tuna is like pole in line like individual fucking fishermen catching one motherfucking fish at a time and they're like that's fucking tuna but a lot of places most places don't do it like that they use another process where they'll like surround a school of targeted fish that they're trying to harvest and just drop a big ass net around them and just scoop out a bunch of the fucking ocean at once.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Finding Nemo. End of Finding Nemo style. Yeah. In this process, though, this leads to other kinds of seafood being in the hall, like sharks and turtles and like other shit. And they said that could that could that could apparently be leading to this process as to why like of like it's not saying that it's a 100 tuna and this is apparently an issue that goes beyond subway like a lot of tuna is mislabeled apparently i did not know this okay wait now that we just brought up turtles this is making me feel really crazy yeah this does not make it better miles i don't know
Starting point is 00:55:47 you you brought this forth as as evidence of like so this is this explains it we eat turtles in japan you know was this supposed to make us feel better because we're like oh sure it's just other animals it's just rocks and turtles like yoga mat or whatever they put in wonder bread some people were saying there was pork in it and they're like no there's no fucking pork in this it's if anything it's a bunch of ground-up turtle and sharks you don't know what's in the middle of that that uh school of tuna you know there could be a there could be a pig in there frankly who knows what the fish are eating anyway they could be eating some fucking soprasada down in the ocean for all we know. And then a little bit of pig is inside of them.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Everything is so fucked. They could legit be eating yoga mats too that are just washed out to sea. And they're like, no, the only reason it's coming up is yoga mat because the amount of fucking microplastics that are in everything now. And that's another issue. We have burger dogs. We have shark tuna, tuna turtle. Yeah, exactly. This episode is not making anyone hungry.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Look, all I'm saying, like, I didn't bring this up to say, look, to each their own. Like I said, I don't, look, I can't stop eating. Are you going to keep eating Subway tuna? Yeah. Be real. Yes. I. Be real. Yes. I'm being real. It's taken a lot for Miles not to respond to that, like Samuel L. Jackson in A Time to Kill and say,
Starting point is 00:57:12 Hell yes, I'm going to keep eating it. Hell yeah, they deserve to die. And I hope they burn in hell. Do you remember in the 90s when everyone was like, don't eat Wendy's chili. There are fingers that get cut off in it. Do you remember in like the 90s when everyone was like, don't eat Wendy's chili. There are there are like fingers that get cut off. Do you remember that? Yes. There was like all of this like lore around like people finding band-aids and fingers and all this shit in Wendy's chili.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I just I want to point out to people. So if you might be like, you'll never catch me slipping eating no fucking Subway tuna. Well, guess what? It ain't just canned tuna okay in the atlantic about like nine years ago they were there did a story about how this non-profit group had conducted like genetic tests on over like 1200 samples of fish in the u.s and they found that quote 59 of the fish sold in restaurants and stores with the label tuna was not tuna so that's including sushi yes they found 74 of sushi venues mislabeled items as quote tuna when they were not are they just dying it pink what are they doing i don't know i don't know what the fuck's going on there like i feel like I think we all just need to become vegan. I think is what's going on at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't do beef burgers anymore. I have Nathan's and Impossible's, like what I do for my grills now. That's my first step towards getting away from that shit. But like, yeah, when you're like, tuna's not tuna? When tuna's not tuna, the world is upside down. That's the biggest takeaway from today. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Now Mr. Kessler's got something to write in the Washington Post. He's like, one more fucking thing. Our tuna is not tuna. Alarm bells are going off here at the Washington Post. But I guess that's the thing. So maybe this lawsuit is more about saying to get Subway to be like, rather than being like, yo, we got 100% tuna over here. They may need to shift to like, we have 66.667% tuna or whatever. Or they could just be like, it's tuna, we think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. Tuna, like trawler surprise or like seafood hash. Like there are other foods that. Seafood hash. like seafood hash like there are other foods that seafood hash there's there like corned beef hash is is a thing that i have gladly eaten even though i don't know what the fuck is in that but did you ever eat scrapple growing up yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i'm going to the jersey shore in a week and a half of course i scrapple growing up it's but to me it's like tuna the new scrapple you know you don't know what's in it just
Starting point is 00:59:45 tastes good yeah i mean and is that is that that bad i guess that's what we at the end of the day i never ate a tuna sandwich because i was like yes the taste of tuna i'm like give me my like fish essence mayonnaise it's the alchemy of the mayo yeah fish it's like if you have a little celery in there sometimes you can pop it up with a dill i mean you never know but you know have you ever had scrapple no i've never but i know about it like i've i watched a lot of cooking shows and i was like you just take the trimmings and mix it up literally like the other other other other was left after the hot dog company has come and taken their picks pickings they're like okay
Starting point is 01:00:27 the rest of this shit just we either like dump it in the ocean or this or we turn it into scrap does it taste like organ meat or does it have or does it have just like generic meat flavor no it just tastes it tastes like tougher hot dog to me yeah but like it tastes like and it's like fattier it's yeah it's like more grizzly yeah yeah for sure or gristly gristly not grizzly like the bear it's a little grizzly too it's a little yeah i see i kind of feel like it's the meat where it goes like you get your cuts of meat and then they make hot dog meat and then they make meat for dog food and stuff like that and then what's ever left you're at like a b c whatever's left at d becomes grapple d i think is for the department of corrections so that's what they feed to incarcerated
Starting point is 01:01:18 people and then yeah it's like even not fit for what people eat in prisons, I guess. Yeah. It's delicious. It is good. Yeah, why not? Okay, I'll try it. Look, bring it on. Bring on the scrapple.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Bring on the half tuna. A scrapple melt is what you need. You need to do a scrapple melt. You need to do it on two pieces of Roman meal bread. Wait, what's a scrapple melt? I've just had it. Like a patty side. You fry it up in a pan and you put a little cheese on there i had one one of my friends growing up her mom used to put slices
Starting point is 01:01:52 of velveta on it i mean i would i would get diarrhea for like days after but i feel like you would get diarrhea by the end of that sandwich looking By looking at it. I mean, honey, why do you think I have lupus, okay? The autoimmune disease came from the Scrapple Velveeta melt. It's crazy, but it's delicious. Oh, shit. It will give you diarrhea. If you're constipated, let me make you that for you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It's crazy. I'm going for it. And yeah, if there's any store-bought Scrapple, let me know. I'll pick it up. I just love how we just went from, yeah, we need going for it. And yeah, if there's any store-bought Scrapple, let me know. I'll pick it up. I just love how we just went from, yeah, we need to go vegan. And now, man, you want to eat the worst parts of a pig's asshole with Velveeta on it. You know, two extremes lead to the middle. You want to eat the edible version of that shit that jack nicholas nicholson fell into in the batman the original batman movie then try scrapple yeah yeah it's
Starting point is 01:02:51 stored in a metal bin somewhere in a factory like that's how they dry age it is like it's stored in a bin somewhere where like people are murdered and then uh they they bring it out and turn it into Scrapple. All right. It is the one day of the year that I feel okay talking about Major League Baseball. The All-Star game is happening, I think, tonight in Los Angeles? The one day I feel good about it. Tonight? I think.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Well, I know the Home Run Derby was last night. It was tonight. You're you're right sorry to clarify the the game occurring tonight it's like it's like the nba like all-star game it's like all the best all the best players yeah put on their little outfits and go for a good game of ball but it doesn't mean anything right it's just like fun it does mean they turned it into a thing where i think if the major if the al or the nl whoever wins they get home field advantage in the world series or at least that was that was the case at one point so they like wanted to add stakes to it because everybody said it's not just funsies it's yeah but it is mostly funsies and they just like put people in like a pitcher comes in for like one or
Starting point is 01:04:10 two innings and then god i gotta get it okay there have been memorable all-star games in my lifetime but like the last one i feel like was like 99 or something yeah honestly i can't i can't the last time i checked for a home run derby was probably that Sosa-McGuire year. 99, yeah, at Fem1. Was that when he got busted for taking steroids or something? Way later.
Starting point is 01:04:36 They're like, they're doing something no one's ever done. They're like, they were juiced the fuck out. Yeah. It was a moonshot. That thing's still traveling. Right. Over Mass Pike. Wow, his fingernails are neon green.
Starting point is 01:04:51 That might not be anything. Don't worry about it. Oh, man. Anyways, not always like, I don't know. All right. I'm not going to say that baseball players are dumb because that's not a nice thing to say. But this is not the most surprising story I've ever heard. So any player traveling to Canada has to be vaccinated,
Starting point is 01:05:10 as we learned in the NBA playoffs when a bunch of players couldn't travel to Toronto. I think it was actually just one 76er. So the Kansas City Royals had that happen to them this weekend where they had a game in Toronto and except 10 players had to not play in the game. So they were outed as being unvaccinated. And, you know, they in addition to not getting to play in the game, they aren't paid for those games. for those games and so that like what one uh philly's catcher jt realmuto said he could sacrifice the 250 000 what's money when i'm not going to let canada tell me what i do and don't
Starting point is 01:05:56 put in my body for a little bit of money it's not worth it wow which made me just wonder like what what do these babies think is in this shit? Like, what are they so worried about? Man, I've seen people get pretty sick. Yeah, that was the answer. Even though they got their vaccine. So, it's, yeah, I love also, just shout out to the class solidarity there. What's 250K on it?
Starting point is 01:06:21 I know. I'll fart that away. Just to pwn the Canadians. Like, what? That's not just a little bit of money. Stick it to them. Of the players who are unvaccinated and can't travel, a whopping 94% of them are from the US.
Starting point is 01:06:37 All right. Yeah, bro. It's so embarrassing. This country is so embarrassing. It is truly mortifying. It sucks. It's so awful. I'm is so embarrassing. It is truly mortifying. It sucks. It's so awful. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with...
Starting point is 01:06:48 Like, it's asinine. It's completely asinine. The most powerful people in our country are, like, these kinds of athletes and then other, like, people in Congress who are asking, like, doctors if someone who's pregnant could give birth to a taco. Right. And doing it with a straight face. And, like, we constantly just, like, let that shit cook too which is wild too like that when you do stories
Starting point is 01:07:10 like this they're like hey anti-vax person say some misinformation right now right that's the yeah jm our writer from canada who's just watching this with the hands glued toachment, his hand over his mouth, just a stricken look of horror on his face, was pointing out that vaccinated players don't get asked about it, but the unvaccinated ones are given a platform to spout misinformation. So this dipshit Whit Merrifield said, like Miles said, I've just known too many people who've gotten pretty sick but then he he said i might get vaccinated if something happens and i happen to get on a team that has a chance to play in canada in the postseason so he's basically he's like my team sucks it doesn't
Starting point is 01:07:57 really matter but if i you know if it if it actually means something, I might actually do the damn thing. Fans loved that, I'm sure. But, like, again, like, we're in this world where, like, these people aren't being challenged at all. And so they, like, who was it? There was an NBA player who was, like, very adamant that they weren't going to get vaccinated. And then, like, their teammates, like, like how to talk with them and their coach,
Starting point is 01:08:26 like explained to them. Was Andrew Wiggins? Yeah, it was Wiggins. That's right. And then he was like, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:32 I got vaccinated and had the season of his fucking career. I think that's what this guy needs to learn. Whit Merrifield needs to check himself with. I love that his take boils down to, look, if y'all were better at baseball i might give a fuck about my life yeah right like whoa yeah and also just does not give a shit about the general like couldn't care less it all it a lot of it really does boil
Starting point is 01:08:58 down to just america's individualistic like head up our own ass just so the idea no other humans exist except for me right well because well again because our lovely capitalist society is built for the individual it's not built for the community it's not built to actually care for each other and give a shit about each other it is the it's the me me me me me constantly right yeah um and then if someone dares question or have a conversation about why you make said decision i think there's such a premium that people are like that's my fucking constitutional right right that i get to do whatever the fuck I want to do, even if it means threatening the health and lives of other people. So it's like,
Starting point is 01:09:53 again, it's, you know, people, vaccinated people aren't the ones that are being questioned about their information and their viewpoints. It's always the unvaccinated people that are saying some fucking psychotic shit it's about freedom man freedom from consequence at
Starting point is 01:10:13 every turn for every single thing i do that's what freedom is freedom from fucking consequence because i have misconstrued this concept of freedom where you can do anything you like into i can be as nasty and fucked up as i'd like to anybody and no one better say shit to me because this is america and i and i just redefine freedom the american dream is now just getting so rich that you can remove yourself from the human condition which includes like dealing with other people that you can say 250 000 isn't a little bit of money right and again yeah it's what's 250 000 if i can say fuck you to canada am i right well again that's the concept of the culture of fuck you
Starting point is 01:10:53 money which is basically i don't i have so much money i can say fuck you to anything and that's fucking freedom right that's tight dude sick anyways uh go blue jays i guess that's the moral of that story yeah i would just love that it turns out like toronto just was like the city that just crushes other teams and they're like yeah bring your anti-vaxxers oh right you can't oh sorry sorry about that they like get to the world series and they suck they've just just been playing teams that don't have any players the whole season. That would be pretty funny. Oh, shit. Well, Greta, truly a pleasure as always having you.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Was it? I feel like this episode I've just been like, everything's fucking bad. I have Scrapple and... It was. You brought us a little joy with Scrapple. The news is bad and you bring us joy. So thank you so much for doing it.
Starting point is 01:11:46 The news is definitely not good. I'll tell you that much. The news is not good, but it's always a pleasure to chat with you both about it. Well, that is why we're so grateful that you keep coming on, despite the news getting, never getting any better. Where can people find you, you follow you all that good stuff oh my goodness you can listen to i'm on i'm on the clown parade which is a big money players
Starting point is 01:12:13 i heart radio podcast where i am i made a podcast from the pov of my stepmother character yeah incredible you know she's teaching you how to find a husband uh how to you know secure the bag of your dreams so that you too can have fuck you money there you go and that's out and you should definitely go and check that out and you can listen to my other podcast, Senior Superlatives, where I talk to everyone about their high school experiences. Both of you should come on. Would love to chat with you.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Hell yeah. And then, you know, Most of Spooky Season 2 is going to be coming out in September at some point. Amazing. Am I allowed to say that? I don't know. But I just did. we're gonna get a
Starting point is 01:13:06 breathless email from your public system i'll be like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa how do you unpublish podcasts were you on the daily zeitgeist recently okay well like 10 people just heard what you said so no i get a lot of love from this podcast. No, I know. I'm joking. It's worldwide. We're always shocked how many people listen. And grateful. Very grateful. Wait, real quick.
Starting point is 01:13:34 What were you like in high school? What was I like in high school? Yeah, I'm curious. It depends on what year. Oh, shit. I was like big stoner vibes um sceny kind of vibes i had jet black hair and crooked bangs and i you know yeah emo girl um we smoking cigarettes too oh yeah parliament lights okay yeah i'm making sure that like i'm like you can be that, that chick that I'm envisioning and not smoke cigarettes. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Smoked cigarettes, you know, emotional, wasn't very good in school. Art girl. Like kind of the whole thing. Yeah. We would have kicked it.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Come on. Come on. Come on the pod. And we can talk all about it. I feel like, I feel Jack, were you a good student? Because you're giving me good student energy. I was a good student.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why me and my friend. Were you smoking cigarettes, Jack? Dork. I was smoking cigarettes. You were? Okay. Yeah. But not like openly. Like, you know. What do you mean? Have like a Marlboro 27 at a party. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Like smoking your butts that were in the tray, ashtray. Yeah, yeah. I went to prep school, so I was like dipping in the dorm, which was gross. Were you doing pouches? No. That raw. That raw, raw. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah. Gross. So gross. Yeah. Gross, gross, gross. Just a big one. Spitters all the way down everywhere in the room. So gross. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Truly the worst decision I've ever made in my life. Please, if you're young or old, don't start dipping. It's very hard to quit, too. I feel like dip is very passe now don't you think i would hope so like i mean my my cousin still dips i still know a few people that dip and whenever people pull out and like pack a lip i'm always like really i haven't seen that i i truly haven't seen that in 20 years i feel like the way i see it now as i see my homies who have just had kids like it's i think that's like their way I see it now, as I see my homies who have just had kids, I think that's their way of secretly getting fucked up or something.
Starting point is 01:15:50 There's a weird thing that happens when you have kids. I mean, it's the midlife crisis. That's why so many men lose their mind and do something. Start packing lips. That is up there with the bad things that you can do. Come over to my house. We'll pack lips. That is up there with the bad things that you can do. Come over to my house. We'll pack lips. We'll eat hot dogs.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Have you just had a kid and realized that everything you've done has been on the backs of women your whole life? Oh, is that kind of freaking me out? Choose to dip. Choose to dip. That's a great way to make that feeling go away. Yeah. Yeah. choose to dip choose to dip that's a great way to make that feeling go away yeah yeah just add to the disorienting feeling of your uselessness by adding a nicotine rush there you go greta is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying okay this one i really liked dan
Starting point is 01:16:38 lakata people don't know who dan lakata is you need to follow Dan Licata on Twitter, one of my favorite comedians. And Dan tweeted, she's a 10, but she's already married to Bill Clinton. Oh my god. That's great. So that made me chuckle. Oh shit. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find
Starting point is 01:17:04 me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray out miles and jack got mad boosties check out 420 day fiance with sophie alexander if you want to hear me talk 90 day uh some tweets that i like okay there was jack i know we like the same one and i checked because sometimes i'll like a tweet and i go if jack saw this shit i know he liked it too and And I know you liked it. So I'm going to skip that one. No, no, do it. Because it might not be the one that I was going to share. I got a lot. I got a lot. Well, I just got another one that I'm going to do. First
Starting point is 01:17:34 one is from PanicAtTheDiscourse at KinjalDave7 tweeted, British people struggling in this heat wave. Stay strong. Your ancestors colonized entire countries in this heat wave stay strong your ancestors colonized entire countries in this heat i saw that this morning that's good people love to go for that one and then another one's from tory rubenstein at tory rubenstein tweeted and jack i think we saw this video over the weekend
Starting point is 01:17:56 it said joelle and bead dancing the horror is the only thing i want to see on social media this week and joelle and bead is at this wedding wedding they got the horror going and it's this man just stands out uh and he is getting he's just he's having so much fun he's got i wonder what happens when they get in the chairs though like do you look at joelle and be to be like yo bro you gotta get in on this like to lift this shit you're like 9 000 feet tall like please right how about with that oh i thought you meant like will he sit in the chair i don't know could you imagine that's that's that's like, I thought you meant like, will he sit in the chair? I know. Could you imagine? That's that's that's like horror abuse. If you're like, all right, now me like the biggest guy here.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Right. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Bailey Moon tweeted Hunter Biden is the closest thing we'll get to a real life. Kendall Roy, Sarah, AJ clearly tweeted tweeted every beastie boy song is like three little piggies egg fried rice i spy some girlies and they all look nice and then somebody replied with another one from uh illy boshan earlier in the year tweeting beastie boy's voice
Starting point is 01:19:00 i got my pants pulled down my dick pulled out I'm taking a piss in my very own mouth. I listen to a lot of Beastie Boys. My kids like it. And those both just resonated with me as Beastie Boys. I like my sugar with coffee and cream. Yeah. And then I liked just on the whole, the police claiming that like fentanyl, like looking at fentanyl killed them or like gave them a contact high return of the lloyd tweeted throwing bags of fentanyl out the window
Starting point is 01:19:31 during a police chase and the cops start spinning out and crashing like mario kart was that what did i know candy man tim tam candy man tim Yeah. At Candyman Tim Tam it says spits out mouth full of blood. It's going to take more than that to kill me. Dentist, for the love of God, just floss. That was awesome. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I've been going through some teeth cleanings the past couple weeks. A little too. Hey, close to home. It's hard. It's not going great. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page
Starting point is 01:20:14 and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? We're going to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? We're going to just do a nice little instrumental beat track from Kareem Riggins called Summer Madness. But it's on an album that one of my favorite artists, Kamal Williams, put out under DJ Kicks.
Starting point is 01:20:40 So this is called Summer Madness S.A. I think it's a reference to South Africa. But yeah, this is Kareem Riggins, DJ Kicks album. Get into it. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. tell you what's trending and we'll talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.
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