The Daily Zeitgeist - WaPo Guide To Living Comfy In The Apocalypse 07.08.22

Episode Date: July 8, 2022

In episode 1283, Jack and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by actor, comedian, and writer, Clare O'Kane, to discuss… Washington Post Tells Us Some Sane Tips for Surviving a Mass Shooting, Pop...eye is the Latest Soldier in the Culture Wars and more! Washington Post Tells Us Some Sane Tips for Surviving a Mass Shooting Popeye is the Latest Soldier in the Culture Wars Oklahoma theater posts warning sign about same-sex kiss in Pixar's 'Lightyear' San Antonio cartoonist takes over ‘Popeye’ Sunday strip with big plans for changes to the iconic strip ‘I yam amphibious’: Is Popeye the Sailor a non-binary icon? LISTEN: House in LA by JungleSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Follow followed on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie champion.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And this is season four of naked sports. Up first. I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball. It's just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 244, episode 4 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Friday, July 8th, 2022. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, if you like, if you Like Hadron Colliders and Getting Energy Drained.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That is Christy Yamaguchi-Main making a reference to all the conspiracy theories around what the Hadron Collider is doing to us. I think there may be some subtler ones that I wasn't familiar with. I caught the ones that was like we've been plunged into a new portal into hell. A new portal into hell. I think we already opened one up in 2015. But I think there's also like energy draining and like keep your energy up, keep your vibrations high.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I don't know what any of that shit means. Thank you, Christy Yamaguchi-Main at Waffle House. I am genuinely thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, the producer behind shows like Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Welcome to our show. You've heard her on Pop Culture Happy Hour, read her at Vulture, the AV Club, Teen Vogue, many more. She is the host and executive producer of Comic-Con Metapod.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's the brilliant and talented Joelle Moniz! Hey! What's up? What's up, Joelle? I'm back. I want to say a special hello to the TDC fan who found me at a union meeting. Appreciate you. I'm happy to be the lady
Starting point is 00:03:41 voice of this podcast, and shout out to your wife. Y'all were beautiful. It was really nice. Were you speaking at at it and they came up and found you after? Yes I was speaking on organizing during a pandemic And So you know afterwards people came up to talk about You know organizing principles
Starting point is 00:04:00 And XYZ and then He was like I'm just here as a fan of the Daily Zeitgeist And I was like hell yes Found you love it amazing so that was special i also wanted to tell you that i've i've joined the matcha life so yeah i talked about how i couldn't do espressos anymore i tried to switch to chai tea uh my body said that's still too much caffeine so now i'm trying grass milk and i don't hate it Grass milk is what you were calling matcha. Yeah. Which I think is, I think is fair. Let's bring in our guests and we can talk matcha. Yes. See if they have any thoughts. In our third seat, we are thrilled, fortunate, blessed to be
Starting point is 00:04:39 joined by an actor, comedian, writer who's written for SpongeBob SquarePants, Shrill, Fairview, who has appeared on Viceland, performed just everywhere. Just a truly hilarious stand-up comedian that I am very thrilled to have on the show. It is the brilliant and talented Claire O'Kane! Hey! Matcha life!
Starting point is 00:05:00 Matcha life. Living that matcha life, right? I'm actively drinking matcha right now. Are you really? I would never lie to you. Okay. That's important to me and I wanted to establish that up top because I did not believe you when you first said that. Wait, Claire, so we were talking before we got on about homemade versus store-bought. I've been doing the store-bought situation where i just get it at the local cafe are you making yours at home absolutely not i wouldn't even know where to begin
Starting point is 00:05:30 to modify my greens how do you do it wooden whisk thing i know that and then there's so maybe some water in it is like beautiful and like great in theory. And I was incapable of using it to like mix anything because I just like don't have the dexterity and like the small hand. I don't know. I have an intention trimmer. It was just a mess. And I got at Ralph's,
Starting point is 00:05:59 like the version of Kroger that we have in Los Angeles. I got a little like whisk, like electric whisk thing that costs like $7, battery operated. It's got a little whisk on it that like spins around really fast. And that made making matcha super easy for me. I did mention before we started recording
Starting point is 00:06:18 that since recommending it to you and being like, oh, Joel, you simply must start living the matcha life. It's so much better for you. I have switched back to coffee. I went to Guatemala for a couple weeks. And no matter how many people I asked, they would not make me a matcha latte. I was asking everyone. I was like, where's the where do I i get where's a guy get a nice matcha latte around here see what happens when you leave la yeah exactly no so and the coffee down there is great so i went back to coffee and i just haven't done like when i switched from coffee to matcha i felt like i had a flu for a week because of the caffeine drop off and then it was good so give yourself a
Starting point is 00:07:07 week to not feel great okay all right that's my advice i quit caffeine when i got covid i don't know if they're talking about this online but that's what i'm talking about And I got it And I was like you know what I'm not gonna I'm just not gonna do caffeine For about three months no coffee Yeah And it felt great
Starting point is 00:07:34 And then I went to Italy All they got in Italy is these little tiny cups of coffee I don't know if you've heard about this There's a lot of coffee in one little thing Espresso Okay yeah Heart attack in a cup I know you heard about this, is a lot of coffee and one little thing. Okay, yeah. A heart attack in a cup. Fucked up ever since.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I'm trying real hard. I can't have these panic attacks anymore. It's too stressful. It's too stressful. Great matcha talk, everybody. Great matcha talk. And break. That's something from your search history that reveals something
Starting point is 00:08:07 about you to us. Wait a second. No, I skipped it. You've got to do a recap. Damn it. I was so smooth with it. Damn. Okay, rewind.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Coming in. I love it, though. All right, you're going to take us through the search history, overrated, underrated. First, I'm just going to tell the people a couple of the things we're talking about. The Washington post has given us a great resource that we can use for
Starting point is 00:08:30 ourselves we can share with our family about what to do during a mass shooting it is really fucked up and like weird that this is this this seems to be the washington and New York Times and just generally the mainstream media approach to this new apocalyptic reality we're living in, which is just like, yeah, okay, so this is happening. Here are our new overlords. We'd like you to meet them. Here's a profile of a bunch of anti-choice 22-year-olds that we think you might enjoy. That was a New York Times piece. And the Washington Post has just some helpful tips about what to do in a mass shooting
Starting point is 00:09:13 that includes just a lot of tactical operator speak. We'll get to it. It's both funny and just causing me to despair. If we have time, we're going to compare and contrast to scandals. If we don't have time, it will be in, I guess, yesterday's trending. I think it was like he so he wasn't quick enough to condemn the actions of a real piece of shit. Also, like through parties that signaled he wasn't taking the covid threat seriously. And then we have another one where, like on this side of the pond, the proverbial pond, Lindsey Graham has decided he won't comply with subpoenas. And that seems to be like all Republicans are like, yeah, we don't like the law doesn't apply to us. So we're not really much in common there. I think I just want to ask if I can move to the UK because they still I do love a baked bean with some eggs. A blood sausage? Oh, God. I don't fuck with blood sausage, however.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I am not a monster. And the fact that people treat those two as equivalent, I don't know. That's bean erasure. But we're going to also talk about Popeye is, like, I guess the latest soldier in the culture war. They're re-upping the Popeye comic strip. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:52 This makes me feel sad that this is a conversation. All of that, plenty more. But first, Joelle, why don't you help us get to know our guest Claire better? It's time to learn about Claire, and we'll begin with your search history. What's something from your search history that tells us about you, Claire? Recently, I've been looking at pictures
Starting point is 00:11:13 of scorpions in amber. Do you guys know that? That's dope. That's dope. Make a New Age Jurassic Park team. Very metal. Love it. Kind of cool,
Starting point is 00:11:24 because I'm looking for... I've gotten to the point where I'm like, you know what? I'm a Scorpio rising. You know what? I'm going to get a tattoo of that, I think. So... I'm a Scorpio moon and I definitely want to get a Scorpion shadow
Starting point is 00:11:40 inside of a moon. I don't care if it's tacky. It's epic. Jackie, are you scorpion or you have any scorpion in your chart i'm a leo i tend to gravitate towards gemini's that makes sense does it make sense i feel like it's all fire and air yes exactly a little chaos i respect it but okay i'm looking at some scorpions and amber tattoos and they are very cool i i am i feel like i'm too late in the game to get tattoos but i i envy people with tattoos you just gotta grow a sick gray beard and start having your midlife crisis right yeah exactly i feel like that would be the only thing that it would signal. Other than maybe I'm like, oh, that's cool looking. Would be, oh, he's afraid of death now more than he used to be.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I want to see Jack on a Harley. I'm riding motorcycle Jack. Bring it on. Oh, God. Claire, what's something that you think is overrated? Purchasing clothes online. Oh, ding, ding, you think is overrated? Purchasing clothes online. Oh, ding, ding, Claire. Why overrated?
Starting point is 00:12:49 I think the convenience is just not worth it when it comes to you getting shoes in the mail that you think are going to fit. The number says, yeah, this is the number I'm putting in. That's the one I usually buy. And you wear them and you're like, I look like a damn clown walking down the street. The backs of my ankles are ripped to shreds somehow. And
Starting point is 00:13:13 it's just not worth it. Just go to the store to get your stuff. I agree. As a plus-size shopper, sometimes I have no choice but to order online. And it sucks on two folds one sometimes i'll buy something super cute but then i get it and the feel is wrong like i bought this like adorable purple skirt but it feels like a sleeping bag i would have never made this purchase
Starting point is 00:13:36 in a store okay it makes swishy sounds and i walk in it but i won't return anything because i have to what go to a post office i got a to print. They don't have a printer. Okay. What year is it? I can't make returns. I'm 30 years old. I still can't do it. So if I buy something,
Starting point is 00:13:51 I'm either keeping it or I found a goodwill. It's not that far from my place. I'll just drop it off there. Hopefully somebody else can use it. Was smart enough to go to a store to purchase clothing that actually works for them. What a true nightmare. A first world problem, them what a true nightmare a first world problem but like a nightmare of a first world problem 100 well they i just should i should say they
Starting point is 00:14:10 should just say what the clothes feel like when you're on the website say what does this feel like sleeping bag spider web sleeping bag swish with a spiderweb finish. What does it sound like? Yeah, I feel like I, yeah, the convenience is fully taken over by like all the impracticality of it and the returns and the need for a printer, which nobody, nobody has a printer, right? No, no, those those die those are for work like if you if you still work for some place that has a a printer then maybe you can go in there but it's it's the worst and it it is like the idea of online shopping is completely based around having a printer in most cases right you know what and it's fun because it's bizarre because i love online shopping like the actual act of and i'm putting it in the cart and i'm looking at the things oh i found a deal and then honey found me an extra bonus deal love it and then it's always
Starting point is 00:15:17 buyer's remorse yeah i'll get five things and like two of them i'll be like spot on and i'll be like i guess i own this yeah Yeah. It's a, I'm, I compulsively buy things online, things I don't need, but it feels good to buy stuff. It does. I gotta say.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Trick and mortar is like, just in terms of sales figures and just like the future of commerce, it seems like people just generally are agreeing with this overrated and are no longer shopping as much online. I have a friend who works in the finance end of this stuff, and I don't usually understand what he's talking about. That was one thing he said. He was like, yeah, like people now are shopping more at brick and mortar stores and they're like going to the stores with like the conversion rate. It's not like they just go in and absently wander around. They like go know what they want and buy it, which makes sense because I keep hearing this word COVID. I'm not sure what it means. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 People are smarter than me is what i just heard like look at people taking the time to actually search for what they want go to the store pick it up like geniuses uh listen if that's you i'm appreciative uh thank you for not doing the fast fashion thing like buying smarter i wonder if like sales reps have adapted to the fact that we hate them and like they have like backed off a little bit because I used to be a thing that anytime I hated clothes shopping because I didn't like just that interaction like from the start where it's just like a weird fake like, hey, like we're friends, right? That's the premise of this conversation. What are you looking for? Tell me your size and I'll go shopping with you. No, ma'am. Leave me alone, please, sir. I don't need it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 What I do want, though, is the champagne experience. Before COVID, LLP was opening up stores all across America. And they got bought by Walmart. And they were closing all of those down. It was horrendous. I was waiting for them to open up one in LA because they would greet you with a glass of champagne. And then you go shopping in their store and they have big private dressing rooms. And I was like, that is all I want in life. Like if you greet me with champagne instantly, this is a 10 out of 10 experience. No matter what happens beyond this
Starting point is 00:17:38 champagne, I'm a very happy person. Bring back the like Bergdorf's neiman marcus style of shopping the personal shoppers the champagne i would like models in store of all sizes to wear the clothes so i can see what they look like while i just like relax and chat with my friends have you seen the women people watch it it's a great movie this is what i want out of life shopping could be better is all we're saying here. Oh my gosh. Claire, tell us something that's underrated in your opinion. I recently rented a convertible car when I was visiting
Starting point is 00:18:14 LA. Highly underrated. Okay. I'm going to say everybody should drive around in a convertible at least once in their life with the threat of large objects falling off of other cars and hitting you in the head. It's thrilling.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And it's like, music sounds better. I don't mean to sound like I'm stoned, but it's just an insane experience. I was specifically driving in LA. I don't know what it's like in Dallas experience and it was i was specifically driving in la i don't know what it's like you know in like dallas or whatever history shows it's not not a good place to have a convertible but i would say that it's just so fun i can't speak to being a passenger in the back seat of a convertible that seems maybe overrated but under underrated driving a convertible in LA. I just watched Thelma and Louise for the first time like a month ago.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And so I'm catching the vibes. I love the idea of winning your hair, but I would absolutely have to wear a scarf because like after half an hour at full speed, it would be an issue. But there is something about driving around certain parts of LA specifically, pretty much anywhere on the east side, you start to feel way more glamorous and or cool depending on which like if you're in Beverly Hills and you're driving around in a car that's like clean and semi-nice you're like my god am I wealthy what's happening over here like I feel very posh and it's amazing or you know if you're like in east Los Angeles and the fashion district suddenly you're like oh
Starting point is 00:19:44 this is where cool kids are and I'm here so therefore i must also be cool and i can only imagine that convertible is just really heightening all of those feelings i'm a convertible you've convinced me you can like put the top up too right like it's not it's not why i do suggest at some point putting the top up or else the top of your head will get sunburned. Right. Yeah. That's kind of just what happened to me. That's just, I like to undercut people who are excited about a thing by tempering it with the practical, well, you can always put the top up and wear a hat.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I've never, I don't think i've ever driven in a convertible i think i've only been in a like one of the jeep wranglers when i was in high school that are like made of paper except for a roll bar and it was like driving on the highway with that person was a very like violent experience oh no but just just because it's like everything is like, you know, flapping so hard. They're just, it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:49 yeah, just your car is a half tent at that point. But I, I have seen a lot of people driving around LA and presumably rental cars and that are convertibles. And also it seems like generally like 50 plus men have like old school convertibles that they proudly drive around in and like, kind of will make eye contact with you as they,
Starting point is 00:21:18 as they pull up in their convertible. And they did. Yeah. Yeah. We did, we did the head nod. Yeah. The fellow convertible driver yeah all right well i i now have my marching wars i'm gonna i'm gonna drive a convertible
Starting point is 00:21:35 before it's too late yeah with your amber scorpion tattoo beautiful yeah i don't know what what's a what's a good leo tattoo I got to look that up. I get a lion with a crown on it. Okay. That definitely matches my energy. Totally. Get some blood splatter on the teeth. Yeah. A lion is just eating and just kind of taking a nap under a tree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a tired lion.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yeah. All right. Let's take a tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like a tired lion. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll check in with the Washington Post on their tips for living in our new America. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series
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Starting point is 00:24:15 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making
Starting point is 00:24:32 of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:24:45 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:25:05 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their
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Starting point is 00:26:17 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the Washington Post has given us some sane tips for surviving a mass shooting because nothing is wrong and everything is okay in the United States. Yeah, it was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:26:43 it's kind of written in the same voice as a piece in like a culture or society page where at one point they recommend like before settling into your seat or spot, ask yourself, if there's an attack, what will I do? It only takes a moment to answer this question before you sit back, and enjoy your outing so it's like practical tips for going out having a good weekend but also being vigilant and keeping your fucking head on a swivel in case of attack from a shooter this is something i kind of this is my life i've been doing that right yeah now everyone's on my level first of all but i also think it's like hinman follows it up with think of it as making a regular deposit in a survival bank and then if an
Starting point is 00:27:31 emergency arises being able to make a potentially life-saving withdrawal that is the darkest shit i have ever heard in my entire life and the idea that these tips are both practical, possibly necessary, and it's just, it's so deeply disturbed, particularly when you, you know, high school band just taking off and running when they heard the shots fire i oh well i don't know satire or or necessary ingredients what do we think it feels like satire and also necessary so we open with a word about the importance of advancing your location, which is like their security expert operator speech for like doing advanced planning and research. So they're like, you neolibs love doing homework. So just like start looking at the schematics and escape plans for every building you occupy before you go. And then you can just, you know, be assured that we're going to have a good time. Everybody can relax.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And, you know, if someone comes in shouting something incoherent about you being a child groomer and starts spraying gunfire everywhere or whatever, you'll know what to do. You're ready for everything. Down to clown baby and then yeah that so then they get into the real shit like okay so what happens they're here they're
Starting point is 00:29:12 shooting at you and make yourself as small a target as possible yeah and then get away as fast as you can which is a very vague instruction get away if you can tell which direction the shots are coming from and you're not accidentally trampled by everybody else trying to escape it's giving the level of anxiety i get every time i get on a plane and they're like so if there's an emergency you're just going to reach under your seat i'm like these aisles are so swamped to get out of my seat get on the floor reach under there for that life preserver is it going to protect me for real there you could just blow it up like i don't believe any of this is going to work yeah planes are safe so hopefully not this time yeah but yeah
Starting point is 00:29:50 very anxiety inducing yeah first thing you want to think about is which is get down and if you can determine which direction it's coming from get away that's our general rule the perp tends to be wildly firing so your very best bet is to be as small a target as you can and getting away as fast as you can. And then they like give some suggestions about like finding the most solid structure to hide behind. Like using a car as a shield may not be ideal if the vehicle is made of weaker materials like fiberglass or plastic. If there's an option, concrete or brick walls can be very helpful and would offer better protection than stucco or sheetrock dividers.
Starting point is 00:30:31 If it's a true heinous active shooter who is looking to target individuals, getting to a place you can't be seen is very helpful. It's so funny to me, using tactical and operator. You know how police use as many words as possible to describe something? They're like, well, we encountered the individual and made a tactical approach to that. They just said, getting to a place you can't be seen is very helpful instead of hide, motherfucker, hide. I'm going to run to the nearest wall, but first I'm going to knock on it to make sure it's solid.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah, you're doing the knock to make sure. I'm doing the knock. I'm putting my ear to the wall. Right. Looking for the studs. Do a stud finder test real quick. Make sure you're behind something solid. You know, consult all the homework you did before arriving,
Starting point is 00:31:25 all the advancing that you did to make sure you are near a car that withstands bullets better than other cars. A Hummer? Yeah, exactly. Movies of Tommy Dodd will explode, and then it's in a different type of trouble. But I think that the strategy of using a lot of boring words to say is getting to a place you can't be seen with a you know shelter option peripheral that keeps you behind something it's just like yeah
Starting point is 00:32:14 okay you got it this line particularly chilling just like children playing sports learn to react quickly to a fast pitch or a pass from a teammate they can be taught how to react in an emergency very vague what an emergency yeah this is beyond emergency this is a mass shooting let's be very specific and so can adults which is i don't want like four six year olds to have to react to gunfire with like the the thought process of a marine that's very disturbing to me. Yeah. Yeah. We want your kids. Like, I need to start training my four and six-year-old to react to gunfire with just, like, stony, like, dead-eyed, like, cool. They're like, in a mass shooting, calm is a superpower. So that's what I'll start telling my kids is that, like, you know like you like the superpowers where like people can fly and do stuff like that. The real superpower you want to develop is desensitization to mass shootings.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Even all those superheroes become super after some sort of horrific traumatic event. Yeah. This could be yours. Yeah, this could be your origin story, baby. Yikes. yeah this could be your origin story baby yikes and then so the the part that like really made it like situated it within the logic of the police and the the police state that is has been pretty strong and unshakable in america and feels like it's using these opportunities to get stronger is like up next is a FBI agent they consult who says, one thing you have to realize is no one knows how they're going to react or respond. When it happens to them, it is the most average routine Monday
Starting point is 00:33:58 moment of their day. And then gunmen in mass shootings get more sophisticated over time, throwing more advanced challenges at those trying to escape their lines of fire. The Highland Park suspect, for instance, is alleged to have taken a sniper's position from a rooftop on the parade route, which gave him a tactical advantage. As a collective, we underestimate the offender and the offender cohort every single day. I don't want to hear that from the FBI. The FBI added. Yeah. So, first of all, like, i don't know that that's necessarily true like the people i don't know like that that feels like them trying to like that that's what is particularly dispiriting
Starting point is 00:34:37 is that they are taking this narrative and rather than being like i don't know it's like real fucked up they're like yeah see this is what we've been saying and they're getting better at it so we need more power and like everybody needs to like be trained to evade the these like super mass shooters like that is the the narrative that they're gonna try and put out there and the washington post and the new york times are just like so wide open to what the fuck ever the police want to tell them like they just report report it without without any like questioning there's no thought um on perspective it is the FBI's job to try to figure out like how would we keep people safe in the same way that's secret services responsibility like how we keep they
Starting point is 00:35:25 are not there to pass laws or specifically gun reform so i understand this line of thinking from someone in this line of work but then to spew that at people as though that is the ultimate answer to the situation is chilling i think really because of the statement mentioned earlier if you haven't been shot at regularly you have no idea how you're gonna respond you might freeze up maybe you take off and like forget your loved one that has happened before just out of natural fear so to to say you're gonna prepare nobody's even these proud boys who are out here you know trying to formulate attacks and and thank goodness being found out before anything happens or or in a run into the wrong crowd and
Starting point is 00:36:12 get pushed back into their trucks or whatever like they don't know for real like what's going to happen they just have this idea of how they're going to respond so i i just this feels very much useless it's not going to be helpful to anyone in real life maybe one or two people will be like brick wall okay where is one there go move i just i just think you're going to be running on pure instinct if god forbid you find yourself in one of these situations look did i repeatedly use my wife as a human shield every time I heard a firecracker on July 4th? Like, yeah, maybe. But that's instinct.
Starting point is 00:36:49 We don't know how we're going to respond. I think she gets it after some explaining. But, yeah. That's your truth. That's my truth. Yeah, and we respect that. Thank you. Were fireworks particularly horrible for you guys this year?
Starting point is 00:37:03 I've never really had an issue with fireworks before. But this year, maybe it's because I have a dog who's terrified of fireworks. And that put me a little bit on edge. And I also live in a neighborhood where they'll pop off fireworks till like four in the morning. But this year, every time a firework went off, I was like jumped a little. It was kind of upsetting. It only reminded me of gunfire. I had none of the childlike joy of like, ooh,
Starting point is 00:37:25 sparkly thing in the sky. I was just like turned very much into a squidward. I was like, cut it out. We do not need the bombs right now. In my neighborhood, they start setting stuff up, you know, kind of the moment it becomes 75 degrees or
Starting point is 00:37:41 warmer. And so most of the fireworks I only hear and I don't see, and those freak me out. And I do have a dog now. So I'm seeing it through her eyes and she is seeing red. She hates it so much. And I feel so bad for her and everyone with PTSD from gunfire and all this shit,
Starting point is 00:38:03 which is happening more and more. So I don't know. Maybe we do those drone light shows. Those are good drones. Yeah, those are cute. It concerns me about our technical overlords and their ability to see everything, but you got to give a little and take a little, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Right. So then the article switches to talking about how to deal with the terror. And it's, can i tell you not great news either they basically recommend doing stuff that gives you the illusion of control while basically acknowledging uh that it isn't helping so like they interview a psychologist and a psychiatrist first of all the section is called Find a Sense of Purpose and Control. And they're like, writing to members of Congress, protesting, fundraising, and starting petitions are all ways that regular people can help to harness their fear of daily life in a society
Starting point is 00:38:55 where violence and devastation regularly dominate headlines. Duffy said, this is the psychiatrist, there's no reason to think this wouldn't happen again and what brings people hope oddly is to brainstorm about what do you think we can do about it i think people like the idea that they could contribute somehow to some kind of solution somehow to some kind of solution those are marching orders some weird existential marching orders find it find the energy within yourself in these dark days to be nice right to be to like politely reach out to congress members and protest in a way that we the washington post will approve of and will not claim was like worthy of arrest quote-unquote violent right they were so angry it was scary why are they being like this throw some fundraising dinners for all your rich
Starting point is 00:39:52 friends and have them give you money to to do what have some celebrities sing a song uh it'll really invigorate congress to do something about it i guess yeah i don't know i would like to ask people to stop saying unless you're a baptist choir don't sing when tragedy happens it's weird don't do that it's bizarre you did it when uh roe v wade got overturned and it was startling and strange america the beautiful maybe not the time not the place i yeah this article just makes me feel like okay i don't think that there's anything new here and the the suggestion to write a letter just really pulls me if you can write a letter so good it would make our government act on gun safety why haven't you penned it already i don't want to make it your fault but
Starting point is 00:40:45 you knew you had this secret power all along and you should have been writing well they they suggest this writing letters and like starting petitions more it's not as like a thing that could feasibly have any impact it's as like a crap like crafting like crafting can be good for dealing with stress. Soothe the nerves. Right. Mood booster. The fact that it could contribute somehow to some kind of solution
Starting point is 00:41:13 is probably the weakest, least specific commitment that one could make, I feel like. But yeah, I don't know. This does feel like a larger trend where the mainstream media seems to be rather than being like all right well this is a you know an end point uh this is like a line that has been crossed and we now need to like figure out what we do in this clearly broken society they have instead just like used the same voice, the same tone, the same like mechanism
Starting point is 00:41:48 for like getting by in the world to just interview like the statistically anomalous like group of anti-choice, like 20 something women. Like that was a big piece in the New York Times, you know, worry about the safety of Brett Kavanaugh and just give us tips for how to survive in a fascist police state. Like, like become a police officer, basically become a SWAT team member. They were doing all these articles on Trump supporters who had regrets about it and or Trump supporters who were like, why doesn't my community like me anymore? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Everyone's so mean now. Yeah, we've really got to focus in on who we're talking to and why in these situations. And the thing is, I know that there are a lot of journalists out there who are like, I would never have chosen to cover this story this way. But my editors and probably the money people above them decided that this was the best angle to take. And I just bring back local journalism, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. The ultimate listicle, I think. That'll solve it. I'm surprised they didn't put that as one of the options of things that you can do that could somehow offer some kind of solution, right? The ultimate listicle that shakes this society to its foundations equally as helpful yeah it's helpful but yeah i i don't know i i think people still look to
Starting point is 00:43:12 the new york times and the washington post as like well sometimes they're good but like they're not helping us out of this situation it would appear They are the cement that holds this situation in place, and we need to figure out other options. Or read them and, you know, become like a sick operator who is like, I ascertained the individual assailant, and by not underestimating the offender and the offender cohort,'s the line as a collective we underestimate the offender and the offender cohort every single day like that is the moment i lost hope for anything getting fixed in this country is like they just printed an fbi agent saying that yeah i'm decoding this article and it's saying, buy a gun. Yes, yes, exactly. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:09 What? Absolutely the solution to the problem. They wouldn't say that, but they do offer just like breathless accounts and like quotes from somebody who offers both unarmed and armed defense tactical training. So, you know, and, you know, say his name like five times. So, you know, you know where to reach out. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about Popeye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:48:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And, all right. So it's barely been two weeks since the woke Buzz Lightyear movie, Scarred America, with the scene in which two women kiss for half a second. Some theaters actually posted warnings in the lobby. Boo. I don't... Joel, did you see the Buzz Lightyear movie?
Starting point is 00:49:11 No. It did badly, which I predicted, but I think people are like, well, that serves them right for not making it. It serves them right for choosing to expand a universe that should have ended a movie ago. What are we doing, Disney? Toy Story was done.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Andy had his adventure. Woody grew up in a way that was profoundly written and emotionally destabilizing. I'm obsessed with the first three Toy Story movies. They are so perfectly done. And Toy Story 4, you could take it back. I don't need it. I really, truly, definitely don't need a fake
Starting point is 00:49:51 movie within a cinema that we never saw Andy interact with. Ugh, dumb. I also love Toy Story 4 and did not care about this movie and was confused and remain confused as to why it exists. But now we're on to the next
Starting point is 00:50:07 controversy where Popeye the Sailor Man, like they're trying to redo the Popeye comic strip, which like is when was the last time anybody read a newspaper comic strip for reasons other than to be like, oh my god, they still make
Starting point is 00:50:23 these. But like i can't it like it has to have been decades for baby blues in the year 1999 right last time i read one you have to the uh boondocks the animated show came out of a college paper news strip that then got picked up nationally so that's early 2000s and i do think that there's like the very long running comic strips that have their fan base albeit a small one but i from a pop culture perspective i don't think it's been in the quotes like guys for a hot minute right so i feel like that is what is happening here i feel like the like the people rebooting popeye the sailor man have like made a point to be like this is being updated for a new like inclusive storyline probably with like some knowledge that it was going to stir up controversy with like Breitbart and Newsmax who are pissed.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Wait, can I read this headline? Yes. Popeye's comic strip gets woke makeover with more characters who aren't heterosexual. Yes. Breitbart, what are you on?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Picture that spinning at you. Also, Bluto has been a queer icon for years. The ultimate bear. Right. Yes. I mean, I'm sexually attracted to Bluto for sure. Everyone is sexually attracted to Bluto.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I mean, there has been no heterosexuality assigned to Popeye, at least in my eyes. sexuality assigned to popeye at least in my eyes the past well and also if you consider the history of comics like some of the early and specifically when it comes to like sailors and the navy like there are a lot of homoerotic early sailor cartoons from like the 40s this is the first i'm hearing of this i mean really no no no on. It's like, is there super popular even to this day? And so I think to just, they just want to ignore queer history at all costs. They're like, it's new and it's scary. And it's like, it has literally been around you
Starting point is 00:52:34 your whole life. Even when it was like undercover or quote in the closet, it was still vital and there. And so when these creators decide to acknowledge these queer communities that have supported their content for decades i don't understand how you can be upset about it it's like it's it's been here now someone's just saying i see you and i acknowledge you and we're just not going to force it to be hidden anymore and they're like beside themselves about it get over it yeah previously popeye cartoons
Starting point is 00:53:07 have been full of racist characters including a 1951 cartoon where popeye and his dad battle savage dark-skinned natives which even included a joke about slavery so that is the the old the classic popeye that uh everybody who's complaining about this is like clinging to, I guess. Of course. Popeye was, like so some people have pointed out, Popeye was gender fluid in some early strips. Don's a
Starting point is 00:53:35 woman's clothes to act like a child's mother. But it's like, it is at first I was like, oh, that's like a classic, like comic or like cartoon strip. but there's like a lot of there's like one comic strip that I'm pretty sure this is real that somebody reproduced where Popeye says and I quote don't you dare incinerate I ain't been a good mother to sweepy i've been more than a mother to him i am a perfect male sex mother that's what i've been a father to him too i've been even an aunt and an uncle and a cousin
Starting point is 00:54:14 cousin too i i do not understand what popeye like mispronounces or like the logic of his pronunciation i got the ability to act like both mother and father to infink that's why i am such a good parent i am amphibious okay that's very literally yeah it's not just like you put on a dress like fool an infant who was crying which is like one of the first examples that somebody reproduced but it's like very much Popeye just being like I am both a man and a woman and whatever you know gender identity I want so fuck off. Popeye's got the hips to carry off a skirt too like the figure is really banging in this outfit I just want to say the apron is cute i love it i love that popeye was just this open and comfortable uh with their gender fluidity and i hope we see
Starting point is 00:55:13 more of it a lot more and i hope it continues to piss people off because y'all are stupid i can't i can't particularly with the amount of like transphobia permeating i don't know the entire universe right now like it delights me to make these people angry get out of here yeah that also seems to be a thing that the new york times has clung to as like well the reason that conservatives are mad at liberals is because of like transphobia and because like liberals have been like too you know aggressive with their protection of like pronouns and stuff like that and yeah that that just we've been we've been talking about it like for a while that there's just this like anti-trans rage that is like bubbling under the surface of the country and you can see it and like
Starting point is 00:56:05 obviously all of us like yeah the way that they're coming you know they it's a very cliche but like they're gonna come for one group and then immediately for the next and my gosh there was the craziest twitter thread somebody had taken a photo of these turf folks talking about how they're reanalyzing all of their past friendships and trying to figure out who was secretly trans around them and they're going based off things like she had broad shoulders she must secretly
Starting point is 00:56:34 not be a biological woman like what are you talking about and then responding with and my friend was so shocked and she won't admit it she's lying and it's like this is the most bananas thing i've ever heard of and the idea that anyone could control gender or or create boundaries around gender completely baffles me or the other thing we've been seeing a lot of people like oh well i don't like the word like menstruators or i don't like the phrase people who menstruate
Starting point is 00:57:05 but it's like people no matter what set of genitalia they're born with like if you're born with ovaries doesn't automatically mean you're ever going to ovulate it's not a foregone conclusion so then to make it so that the only way to identify as a woman is based off of whether you menstruate or not like please leave please what does that say to like women who've had hysterectomies what does it say to trans what does it say to trans men like it's just it's the most upsetting bananas things i can't even i can't i'm so i got really angry on this about this on twitter the other day because it's i i just can't fathom telling somebody like no you're not what you say you are right like i i just firmly believe you cannot identify outside
Starting point is 00:57:51 of these very strict rules that have no basis in science even though they cling to science like science says that's not true you don't know science you're not a biologist leave like i just uh that's so weird also just to put so much time and energy into someone else's business it's like this has nothing to do with you you're really trying to make something happen for you i don't know wait what is your obsession with anyone else's gender identity period like why do you clearly you know you you're questioning something about yourself that scares you always everyone has that within them or you so cling to your ideology as the your definition of your gender for example if you identify as a woman and you're like no this i i am
Starting point is 00:58:42 a woman and this is the only way to be a woman and i'm not interested in hearing any other viewpoints on womanhood this is it like that is the most closed-minded bs i've ever heard and particularly for TERFs who are a part of the queer community y'all make me the most angry i'm not even gonna lie i can't deal with you because you under you should understand inherently the spectrum of gender and and to be to be a woman who excludes other women is it's vile right and i feel like the new york times is being like and because like taking that position and being like this is where we lost the argument on row and it's it's just them trying to redraw the battle lines so that it includes,
Starting point is 00:59:30 because they can't exist in a world where the democratic establishment and the corporate media establishment has just been proven to have completely failed. So now they have to like create this weird reality where it's like well actually it was the left that went too far and that is why we are in this situation we definitely haven't been stonewalling the process of government for a decade now oh god i can't solid shout out to poppy though
Starting point is 01:00:07 glad you're out here doing your thing so if you do it more yeah i'm just like well what did deborah messing fight for you know what that is what i keep asking myself do you so this is like a follow-up question i had this like weird kind of embarrassing thing happen where i was driving and i saw someone with a shirt that said resist on it and like i felt a brief little flutter of like oh maybe like people are starting some sort of social movement and i got closer and i realized it was the star wars shirt and yeah and it made me like, I don't know, like, and I was listening to a podcast that was like analyzing like the matrix is like cultural relevance and like the it's used by both the left and the right. what is becoming more and more evidently just completely broken society where there is a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:01:10 The bad guy is ultra wealthy, looks like a movie villain. There's a bunch of them. The government is just openly working only for corporations. But we are more, there's more conversation about like arguing over pop culture shit i feel like or at least like that i feel like pop culture has been channeling it for so long and like we've been rooting for the resistance and star wars for so
Starting point is 01:01:41 long and like haven't this is like the ultimate old guy take you've been too worried about Star Wars resistance and build your own damn resistance but I am like 100% the most guilty of this as well but I'm just like oh yeah what if resistance but not in Star Wars I mean it's hard
Starting point is 01:01:59 to feel like anything will change at this point when activism itself has been commodified. We're all kind of preaching to the choir, and that choir is making money off of us preaching. It's just a vicious circle. So it's like, how do we completely divorce ourselves from all of those institutions entirely and truly make some sort of change. And it feels hard and impossible. The pop culture is also the measure by which we've explored what is acceptable since the boom of teenagers in the 60s,
Starting point is 01:02:39 getting their own financial demographic that we can actually track. And teenagers spend a ton of money and they tend to be a viewpoint of like, where is society going? And so when we track, you know, societal changes that way, it makes sense that we sort of distilled it, you know, over the past, I guess now 60 years into like, oh, well, what's pop culture doing? And it's interesting when we look at animation and cartoons and stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:06 We recently too, there was a clip for the new Baymax show on Disney Plus and Baymax is picking up tampons for somebody, which is great. I really love that we're include, like girls frequently start menstruating at like, you know, between eight and 16. And so to bring that into the shows that
Starting point is 01:03:26 they're watching i think that's really brilliant you know people need to see that and there's a trans person talking about like oh these are the pads i use and like people had a complete meltdown over this they're like what is this teaching children like some men have periods period like it's a two-second thing like they literally pop in they do have a trans rights shirt on it's just the trans flag and they're just like hey use these and so i i don't know as somebody who's like very ingrained in pop culture and as also in touch with a lot of creators i think it's interesting to say the least to watch people behind the scenes really push I don't want to say agendas but really make sure that folks are seen in a way that they haven't
Starting point is 01:04:13 been seen before and to get children as early as possible because you know some of them are really facing a lot of brainwashing they're going to have to undo later and I think it is important to be able to see it in pop culture so they can be like oh yeah not everyone thinks like my folks oh yeah of course of course i think i mostly think of like the insidious nature of the entertainment industry itself where they don't want to get in trouble for being how they've been for the past hundred years, which is exclusive and all that. So there's a little bit of me that's like, okay, I kind of see what you're doing here with your insidious nature.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But then, of course, that's amazing that we get to see these creators and these stories that we haven't seen before. It's going to be helpful, ultimately. And it's good that they're feeling guilty enough that they have to make these pretty drastic moves. Right. Yeah, yeah. And also, I feel like the benefit of capitalism is that democratic you know they're trying to reach the most people because that's the most profitable thing for them right and so like they are by like the logic of the market like being inclusive in which you know not the best reason to do it
Starting point is 01:05:41 but i do think that's at least a benefit that we can see. I'll take it. I'll take it. Small steps. Small steps. Yeah, I guess I would differentiate between Baymax and a new Popeye comic, a newspaper comic strip reboot, which seems specifically designed to be served up to the elderly to be like, ha ha, face, get mad. So we can maybe get like a TV show or like a streaming show out of this or whatever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 But I guess the thing that bummed me out the most on this front was Joe Biden pointing to serial commercials as proof that America was headed in the right direction. All these biracial families. Yeah. Look at us. The future is now. I mean, the kids today. And I'm not just, like, look at the commercials.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Like, when was the last time you saw that? And they wouldn't. I mean. That's what they want. On the one hand, I get it. Like, Joe Biden has lived a very long time. And there was a moment for many years of his life where that wasn't visible. I understand. But at the same time, for a politician to consider any kind of advertisement a solution to actual people's problems, that's very disheartening.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It's also not his job. Yeah. disheartening it's also not his job yeah yeah all right claire it has been truly a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff uh you can find me at oh my god i'm on twitter so rarely i forget my own my own twitter name at claire okay claire on twitter it is yeah claire is okay on instagram claire okay.com for all your claire okay needs and uh i'm doing my solo show at the elysian theater on august 20th at 10 p.m come on out it's about grief and art etc amazing where's the elysian theater it's in i want to i think they call it frog town okay nice you know that and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying i'm a big fan of my friend dan lakata's tweets he also uh former
Starting point is 01:08:03 snl writer writer for Joe Perry talks with you. A tweet of his that I think about a lot is my grandpa was only okay at rapping, but then he got hit by lightning yesterday and he has gotten so good at rapping now. His flows are like if Eminem
Starting point is 01:08:19 grew up in the Great Depressing. So that's calling the Great in the Great Depressing. So that's calling the Great Depression the Great Depressing is really funny to me and follow Dan LaCotta on Twitter dot com. Joelle, where can people find you? What is a tweet or
Starting point is 01:08:38 work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, thanks for having me back. You can find me over at Comic-Con Metapod we have some dope episodes including an entire feature with avatar the last airbender including the actors from the last airbender and cora and the creators of the show which is really cool i was of course out sick with covid when my icons were on but hector held it down it's a really dope episode and we have a marvel themed episode this week which was a lot of fun so please go take a listen to that why can't i find this tweet
Starting point is 01:09:12 i can go and then we can come back to you yes okay uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore O'Brien and a tweet I've been enjoying. I've been enjoying a couple. Tim Kaczynski at Tom. No one clam should have all that chowder is fun. First person to shoot fish in a barrel. I don't even know how to describe how easy this is from Edward James almost. And then Axe Western Union 2K tweeted customers will say shit like uh it's asking me to remove my card and i think i've said that before oh also caleb studman tweeted what the inside of my airpods case looks like is between me and god and i feel that because it is
Starting point is 01:10:01 i don't know how it happens i don don't understand, but it is not great. It's not good in there. Joelle, have you found a tweet or work of social media that you've been enjoying? I have. This comes from at Blackass Feminist on Twitter. I'm sorry the Turks are having such a difficult time right now. Have you all tried building a personality around something other than your dehydrated ass? Coochie, it might help.
Starting point is 01:10:25 What a read. Yeah, it's a problem. I also liked a tweet from Claire. I'm into movie. Movie coming out soon from yesterday. That trailer is very funny. Thanks. It's like daddy's home type that dad and stepdad yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:10:47 dad and stepdad and uh there there are some really good quotes people should go check it out but yeah uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy super producer justin do you have one for us i do uh seeing as how me and uh my sister joelle monique are are moving on Saturday. I figured I would play this, recommend this song for you guys. I love Neo Soul and it's been doing really well over in other countries, in Australia and in the UK.
Starting point is 01:11:36 And there's this band called Jungle that's got a song called House in LA. It's a very dope track. It's got so much space for the notes to breathe and the falsetto vocals on it, they'll just send you to another place. So check out this song, House in LA by Jungle, and you can find that in the footnotes. Damn, I thought
Starting point is 01:11:55 you were going to do Moving Out by Billy Joel. That was a close second. It was a close second. Also, very cool song. Alright, well the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then.
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