The Daily Zeitgeist - WaPo = Waaaa Poor Men! Elon Doesn’t Understand The Office 11.29.23

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 315 episode 3 of your daily life guys a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American Shared Consciousness. And it is Wednesday, November 29th, 2023. The last day of November. Surely, Miles, this is the last one. You hate to acknowledge that there's 30 days. This got to be it, man. It's one of those leapfember.

It's a leapfember, ain't it? Come on, man. 30? I mean, I've heard of November 29th, but November 30th? That's wacky, man. Yeah, okay. And I was born of November 29th, but November 30th? That's wacky, man. Yeah, okay. And I was born on March 36th, pal. Okay.

But anyway, it's November 29th. It's Electronic Greetings Day. I feel like that just means, like, put your fucking device down. We electronically greet all the time. National Package Protection Day. It's apparently about porch pirates. Again, a bit of a weird one. But hey, here's one.

You got to protect your packages that you just ordered. Keep that thing on you and just stay strapped right by your front door with your eyes through the peephole. Rocking chair on the porch with my good old friend Colt 45. And I ain't talking about the 40 ounce. And guess what? Also, this is appropriate. It's also International Day of Solidarity about the 40 ounce. And guess what? Also, this is appropriate. It's also International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian people. November 29th.

Okay. And this has been, I think the UN started this in the 70s. Damn, the UN? Damn, the UN? Wow. Such a powerful body. We have a story later today about how people are becoming more divided than ever and yeah the the chart that they use shows like you know how liberal and conservative people were

and like the 70s was just fucking off the chart like we were so much more liberal as a nation yeah i wonder what that what version like what's the definition of that though like right we're 70s liberals like talking about like you know the definition of that though like right we're 70s liberals like talking about like you know getting rid of qualified immunity or was that even a thing that was around i don't know hey look yeah what what was what was progressive what was progressive ever i mean fucking ask gen z tell them all right Yep Probably cancel me My name is Jack O'Brien A.K.A. If there's something trending

In your neighborhood Who you gonna call? Zyke Geisters That is courtesy of Dr. Thaddeus Turnip Pie Dr. Thaddeus Turnip Pie Oh I mean Turnip the Third I I I

Is that what you're... Maybe. It's all lowercase, so it's hard for me. You know how my brain works, Miles. I need those Roman numerals. I need the capitalization on those Roman nums. Yes, Dr. Thaddeus T. Turnip III, I believe, is what is displayed here. But they said, because the literal translation of zeitgeist is time ghost.

Here's a Ghostbusters, a.k.a. It's short. And it was. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. All right. It's Mr. Miles Gray, a.k.a.

Big scrote, huge balls, thick shaft, massive sack. Yeah. That bone's a giant dick. Okay, shout out to Time Bomb by Rancid. Shout out to Blinky Hack on the Discord. And shout out to that man who found what was definitely a fucking dinosaur femur and goes, yeah, that's a big scrotum. That's a giant scrotum. We can just put a pin.

We can just not. All right, case closed. What's your next mystery? Anything else you need me to tell you what it is? Because that definitely. It's a big old ball sack. I don't know what a dinosaur is. I know what a ball sack is.

And that's what that is. Yes. Blinky Heck also said bonus band name. They might be Giants balls. Oh, yeah, that would have been. That is the full name of they might be giants they might be giants balls well miles here we are on the final day of november and we are joined by one of the greats a writer one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it you know i'm from stuff they don't want you to know. You know I'm from

ridiculous history. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Ben Bowling! Bowling! Holy smokes! I got my own, I got my own aka baked in courtesy of Mr. Miles Gray. I appreciate you guys for having me back.

Ben Bowling. Yeah, yeah. A little depth set hit. A.K.A. Wandering Wizard of Wisdom. That's Brandon Falls. A.K.A. Bending Over Backwards with Benevolence, Sir Ben Bolin. I took a cue from you guys

and I went on Twitter. X, FK, Twitter. No, it's Twitter. In this house, we believe itFK Twitter. No, it's Twitter. No, no, no. It's Twitter. Yeah, the same. In this house, we believe it is called Twitter.

Okay. This is by far, I think, the most conservative take the three of us are going to have for a while. Yes. It's Twitter. We honor the past in this house. Yeah, exactly. By saying, it's still Twitter. As long as I can type Twitter into

the little window and it go to Twitter, that's what it's called to me. Could you imagine, when's that day coming when they completely nuke that URL? They won't, right? Because then someone else can just swoop it up, right? That is. And Elon Musk has never done

anything that's bad for business, so I don't think it's going to happen. Not once, not never. Miles, did you notice something about Ben's AKA when he asked his listeners for AKAs? They were very, like, deferent and were like, we honor you, sir. You are a wizard. You are wise.

And our dang listeners are out here, you know, writing AKA after AKA about that one time that I pissed my pants. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm pretty sure I didn't even piss my pants. It was just my pants just were wet somehow after I went on Scary Ride. Yeah. You're pretty sure?

I'm pretty clear. I think someone pranked them. It was really, I think I got pranked by my young nephew. You know, he was right next to me. I come off, my pants are wet. I didn't feel myself pee my pants. And I used to do that shit all the time when I was drinking. So, you know, I have some.

With the awareness of Liam Neeson too. Yeah, exactly. I just learned about that. Is that true? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's so many pictures of Liam Neeson having pissed himself. Yeah. Yeah.

To a degree that it just seemed like at a certain point, he was just like, yeah, I'm famous enough that I don't have to go to the bathroom. Yeah. He has such confidence. Yeah. He has such confidence in the pictures.

He's like, yeah, I've taken pictures of people with Jack Pistons. Yeah. That are just completely like eyes half open like leery edward you wouldn't even know that he even knew the concept of urinating in a toilet so who knows taking a piss and his pants is more like more like yeah yeah i'm taking the piss yeah i'm taking taking a piss in my pants I like that hypothetical conversation because somebody has just said, hey, it's taken, which I like the idea that you're calling him taken.

Oh, that's where you went with it? Hey, taken. Yeah, I'm taking a piss. I'm taking a piss in my pants. My trousers. yeah i'm taking i'm taking a piss in my pants my trousers i thought you meant the idiom in british english of taking the piss like if you're fucking around they're levels taking the piss yeah i didn't know now we got taken taking the piss taken up wow anyway this is what they come here for that's what they're here for you're a certain set of skills yeah exactly yes exactly a very particular set of skills particularly useless yes all. Yes, exactly. A very particular set of skills.

Particularly useless. Yes. All right, Ben, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. The Washington Post editorial board brought it this time with a great update on why these kids are too woke for marriage. Yeah. Basically. And that's the one about.

It's going to doom us all. Yes. A chart that's like only about white people for some reason. And it's like the young whites are too politically divided. Young white, cisgendered, heterosexual. It's very specific, this survey that they're using. Very specific. So we're going to look at that.

We're going to look at MTG's book. Finally dropped the book. MTG. And it didn't do shit. It's no. Very few people bought it. Shocker. Oh, you're not talking about Magic the Gathering.

I've known myself as a nerd. Oh, no, no, no. The bad one. Taylor Greene. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We only give respect to the wizards of the west coast that's right actually that's my new aka wizard of the west coast there we go there it

is we got elon did you play magic what's that you play you play magic i did not play okay that's why maybe that one resonated with ben and you're were like, all right. All right, man. Okay. I cool. Yes, and moving on. Jack, you ain't no fucking nerd, bro. You probably play an all green deck and shit. He's not about that life.

No. Yeah. I was not about that life. Sorry. Sorry. All right, we'll talk Elon Musk trying to bring Pizzagate back. We'll talk. We got a lot of stuff on the dock.

They try. They're trying to bring sex sexy back to Lifetime Christmas movies. I do want to get Miles's take on that. Oh, my God. I don't even know all of that. Some of that. Plenty more, maybe. But before we get to any of it, Ben, we do like to ask our guests.

What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, man. Okay. So I'm sorry, I've got a cat unrelated to search history. Hang on, man. I got to make this cat litter money. So a couple things. In an earlier episode, we talked about how I thought the calendar was overrated. And you guys asked a very valid question that I did not have an answer to. You were like, okay, so fine. If it's fucked up, then what's the good calendar? Apparently, the most technically accurate one is the revised Julian calendar, which no one uses. revised julian calendar which no one uses and i read about it and i was like yet again i have learned something that will not matter for the rest of my life right but just so you guys know

i wanted to make good on that that's the answer it's like 20 seconds different from the one we currently use though right right yeah it's not earth-shaking except over but you you feel you have a sensitivity to time that the rest of us lack and so you you noticed the 20 second difference for sure man i feel like a disturbance in the force around you know around the the uh the end of the year i'm like 20 seconds off right don't like it yeah so i thought the gun guys were not there yet don't jinx it i'm that guy at the new year's eve party yeah i'm like psych you thought yeah you're like they're like happy new year and you're like 25 26 24 23 pushing people out of the way. Super fun at parties.

I better not say that. Atomic time, man. It sounds kind of cool, but then you're like, the only thing you get is a really good sense of time that is off from everybody else's. Super good, too. Yeah, super fun at parties.

The one I thought you guys might find more interesting is I did not know this, but back in the day, Ben Franklin decided he would, in a burst of humility, he decided he would fix the English alphabet. He was like, some of these letters are just straight bullshit. He really hated the letter C. Interesting. He was like, we got all the sounds that the letter C makes already. It was like, we have C at home.

We have, you know, we have K and S exactly. Yeah. Just so. Oh, cause just because like the, the hard cut continent sound,

they're like, that's actually, why can't it be K? Right. It's a good question. Yeah. All right, Ben,

frankly. Yeah. Yeah. Not me, yeah not me not me not no this guy he went he went nuts though it was while he was living in london during a period of his life that would later give rise to the rumors that he was a serial killer tune into that episode of stuff they don't want you to know but while he was there he wrote something called a scheme for a new alphabet in a reformed mode of spelling super sexy super sexy title it's it's the new twilight i'm sure but uh but i thought i thought that was succinct by the way when compared to like most titles of the day which were like usually 500 words right semicolons scattered around willy-nilly on the notion of spelling and whether or not you're like oh my god jesus yeah on the ocean you think it's the end and then they hit you with that shamalan where they go or a whole different title or how

i spell different right Right, exactly. So one thing I thought was interesting about this, and you guys know, doing a show that applies critical thinking to conspiracy theories in 2023, my search history is already the equivalent of having a face tattoo, as we have mentioned in the past. So I've got all gas, no brakes.

It's over for me. As far as the NSA is concerned. But this one was interesting because things become normalized so quickly. And we all grow up with the alphabet, right? Or with an alphabet. And we never really ask how it came to be, whether it should be improved. Everybody's like, look, life is the weirdest group project ever. Let's not rock the boat too much on the stuff that we all agreed on. So I don't know.

Do you guys think you could improve the alphabet? I mean, yeah, I guess. Me personally? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, but I believe Jack believes that for sure. I'm like, the Spanish language being so intuitive to spell and being at a stage where I'm trying to explain to my children why certain words are spelled the way they are

and not having any good explanation other than, yeah, the English language is an asshole. You know, it's tough. Well, as you point out before, Miles, which I think is a really important point, it is a colonizer language. It is like, let me get some of this and some of that. Right.

And never mind the details. But it's really weird to think about English from a non-English speaking perspective, learning that language. Sometimes you're close to stuff. Sometimes the store is about to close. What does that mean? You know, it's just, it's a whole messy bowl of spaghetti. I wonder if the messiness is a design feature to like separate people who are educated, like so that you can tell by somebody's writing how educated they are and like having this like encoded, you know, educational barometer built in.

So like it doesn't like I have there's no reason ceiling should be spelled that way. But I guess maybe there is socially a reason for that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Encoded social games. So it's an op. It's an op. The best. Exactly. The English language is a fucking

op. All makes sense. What's something, Ben, that you think is overrated? All right. Well, I try to play nice on these uh you saw in some of the notes guys uh the honda odyssey minivan absolutely operated yeah wet garbage on wheels the whole thing we don't even have to you know i'm still very this is so what what's going did you have a like i when i saw you write this and i'm like what the fuck is up with ben in this honda odyssey minivan because i know it as like the most like i remember when it first came out

it didn't have sliding doors i'm like this is not a van this is a car with four doors that's just big and now that but like why are you actually out here being like i don't even want to get into it what is so upsetting to you about don't even get me started don't even get me started. Don't even get me started. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay, so I don't know how you guys are in the fair metropolis of Los Angeles, but I am increasingly convinced now that people

are being forced to go back to offices and go places and stuff. I'm on the road more often, and I swear at least in Atlanta, every time somebody buys a Honda Odyssey, whoever sells it to them must be like, also, we can give you a couple of bucks off if we put this alarm in your car. It lets you know whenever Ben Bolin is on the road and in a hurry. And all you have to do is get in front of them and drop down to about 30 32 miles an hour

you know no matter what they're just i i think maybe it's just road rage coming out a lot of ideas i don't know what it is it's like each of these things has a device in it to find me and slow me the fuck down. I hate these shits. Nothing narcissistic about that paranoia. I love that. So I'm glad we got that out of the way. I want to put the word out before more lives are ruined. The real overrated thing, and I was

really interested in you guys' opinions on this, as well as all of us tuning in today. Wrist watches. Are wrist watches overrated in this day and age? Are you asking? Come on. This is a segment.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say what you got to say, you know? And then I'll come in. Yeah, yeah. I just, look, I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, but everybody has a phone now. Your phone tells time. Does this mean that, in my opinion, usually when I see people wearing wristwatches,

it's some sort of status symbol, right? Arguably, it could be an investment when you're talking about the really fancy ones, or it could be creepy medical monitoring stuff, which I get it. But now, if I see someone with a Rolex or Patek, I think they're called. Patek Philippe? Wow. If I see someone with that, right. Is that, I think they're called. Patek Philippe? Wow. If I see someone with that, right. Is that Patek? What the fuck are you thinking? Is it Patek or Patek?

I've always thought it was Patek. I just, I mean, this is how like American watch YouTubers call it, a Patek. Patek. Okay. Look, there's many ways to say these things because many things are, it's like, it's like how there's a Richard Mille. It's like, you got that Richard mill on. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, yeah, people don't, people don't respect, people don't respect the fucking pronunciations that are English alphabet, but go on. So you're hanging out with big ballers with the rollies on rollies to the side. Right. And, uh, and obviously we can tell where I am at because I can't even pronounce the fancy watch names. And, and I just, every time I see it, I feel like someone saying, you know, look at me, man.

I got so much money. I can tell time twice. Yeah. That's a really interesting. Oh, no. You know, I was rocking two watches. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

I might be. Wow. I might be rocking two watches right now. I have a medical monitoring one and a Casio, but I, I, I. I might be. Wow. I might be rocking two watches right now. I have a medical monitoring one and a Casio. But I think I agree. I agree with the idea that perhaps they are obsolete because the way that we can tell the time now, like it's available to us and another device that we have. For me, I love wristwatches because since I was a child, like they've been like a portal into magic shit like so there was like this japanese show called like kamen rider it's like the masked rider

and he had this fucking watch that he would fucking activate and then he would turn into like the superhero or like dick tracy had a fucking fun watch that he would do shit on and i remember as a kid i always wanted to watch but my mom would be like you're a fucking kid like you don't need a watch and i'm like but i want like just a you know like a like a swatch or just some shit that i can have a watch and because of that just like with sneakers i love i love a watch but i'm not i agree with you like when it gets to spending like car money or something on a watch that's but again i think like like many of us who listen to this show, one day we want to have Lambo,

and one day we want to learn how to, what is the term, unburden ourselves. Yes, I've got to unburden myself with all this money I have sloshing around. Ben, I've got to be honest with you. This feels like I'm listening to Atomic Clockman Privilege. Oh, wow. There we go. This is like Supermanman being like planes are

overrated these people have to like get in a tube to fly around this is boring don't do that just fly like me maybe i just have maybe i just have wristwatch envy because i do remember exactly like very similar things to what you're describing. Dick Tracy had that two-way wristwatch. Yeah, with a fucking screen and shit. It was basically his phone. And then I also, I remember having one of those, it wasn't a swatch, but one of those calculator watches. Maybe it was a Casio.

Yeah, Casio made one. I didn't even, you know, i was never great at math but i remember thinking it was quite a flex to be like oh i'll divide that right now yeah you know what i mean you want me to divide an even number by fucking three right now check this shit out point two no yeah i think there is that version though too or like there i've been around people who are like like luxury watch heads and that is when it gets i can see it can be a little insufferable when like people like it's all about this one piece of metal that i have right now see look at this but like we all we

all like we all collect different shit i think it's when it looks goofy if you're like if you're spending all of your money for those kinds of like consumer status objects yeah at the same time get a lowly casio you know yeah at the same time i i love it when people are passionate about very specific things i'll be honest with you oh i don't like that i don't like that at all class if it's something i don't like i'm like you're annoying me right now i go to those i went to some subreddits for like watch heads you know the guys who were like no that's not the best year for rolex and i'm like what the what are you doing yeah i know we're all reading this while we're pooping and we're on our phones they'll try to big time me but uh but i i don't know. Maybe.

Did you ever wear a watch? Like, have you always kind of like, what did you do pre cell phone? Did you wear or were you never just really a watch person who wore a watch? After the calculator watch, I was just moving on vibes, you know, just using my power to sense weird disruptions in the calendar. I was like, I'll be there 20 seconds off. Yeah. And when you know the calendar is off, what's the point of telling the time anymore? You're like, dude, we're so far fucking behind.

I don't even know. It's not even just 20 seconds. It's stressful to me. 47 minutes at this fucking point. You serious? The most interesting eighth grader. I'm sure. Fucking Ben's talking about how we're behind on the calendar again.

Wait, so when is this actually due? Is it due Friday? Or is it due actually in 43 hours? Right. I don't know, man. Your teacher's just like... I don't know. It's due fucking when this... fucking friday when you come in

man we can call whatever you want ben yeah just yeah just turn it in whenever you want man just leave me alone i got a lot of your parents i got a lot of papers all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll uh hear your underrated and and slip into a little news. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it?

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what is something you think is underrated that is revealing about who you are? And you're somebody who is enthusiastic about things. So I'm always looking forward to your underrated. What do you think is underrated? Well, number one, enthusiasm. And thank you. An enthusiast.

I love enthusiasm. And thank you. An enthusiast. I love enthusiasm. Recently, I got really into certifications, you guys. Life is a roller coaster of ups and downs. Everybody needs a little validation. Sometimes you feel like you need a win. And so I got super into learning and being certified for various things. And a lot of them, if you're like me, if you're lazy, a lot of them are way easier than you think and maybe way easier than they actually should be. But don't snitch. You can learn CPR. I didn't know this. You can learn CPR

entirely online now, which is a bit concerning. Like if you're in a CPR situation, you're like, does anyone know CPR? Now you have to ask, do you like know CPR? Did you go online or did you go to some kind of class? Biblically? No. Yeah, out of the way. I'd be like, oh, no, no, no.

This guy's going to be weird with those compressions yeah he's got he's got a cpr dummy at home and we don't know what he's doing with it he is not using it correctly we'll tell you that you can also be a notary public very very easy are you a notary public i'm about to be actually I'm going into the office this week because it's the only place I know that has a printer and I have to print out my paperwork and you just go there. At least the way it works in, in this part of the U S is you have to get two people who live in your area to say like, this person's not a piece of shit. Tap you in. shit. Right. Tap you in. Yeah. Yeah. Tap you in.

So I, I will be completely clear. All I, I think notary public's just like put the stamp on things. You just. Right. Yeah. You're like, this is official. Yeah. Yeah.

You get a seal. That's super easy. And you know, you feel like a win. I'll be honest, guys. I just like, whenever I feel down, I like getting the little certificate, you know? Yeah. Putting it in a little frame and being like, I did something. Oh, yeah.

Look at that. That's why I do so many, like, charity, like, 5K, like, 5K, 10Ks, because they give you a medal afterwards. Oh. And what I do is I just steal somebody's bib and I cut through the course and I get to the finish line so i get my medal yeah hop out of the cab about yeah 20 i'm like yeah i did the fucking alhambra pumpkin run fuck out my way please wait how many how many certs do you have though when you say do you have are there other like what are you hiding from us oh sure no not hiding i've got a uh like a lot of people, I took one of the online things where you can officiate weddings. Same, same.

Universal Life Church, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shout out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to all the priests out there like us, you know, doing it for saving their friends a couple bucks for their wedding. Exactly. And then I've done like eight weddings, I think, since. Eight?

You've done eight weddings? Yeah, since Eight you've done? Eight weddings? When I worked at other places I had younger co-workers than me who were getting married And they're like oh my god everything's so expensive I'll officiate your shit Can you make me a plate at the end? And I'll leave I'm not going to stay for the whole thing but I will eat and go

And it worked out The thing I always take pains to tell people is Look We can put you together with this but we can't divorce you that's like a that's a real qualification so this is a one-way road you'll need to come to me when i'm a notary public for that exactly once i get my seal uh the big goal speaking of underrated stuff the big goal right now for next year on my end is to get a pilot's license, a private license. Not a commercial one. I got no chance of that.

But it's going to take forever because it turns out it's kind of expensive. Right. Yeah. Oh, right. To get all that flight time? Yeah. And I'm probably never going to own a plane. I just think it would be super dope to be in a situation where someone's like oh gosh

i wish we could get out of here we got this you're exactly like my friend who did the exact he's like he's like i don't know what i'm gonna do he's like but i might need it and he has a pilot's license now all right let's get into a little bit of news the washington post editorial board they dropped an opinion piece that was like concerned about young people not marrying enough because the women are too woke is essentially yeah we're too polarized the headline was if attitudes don't shift a political dating mismatch will threaten marriage written by the editorial board of the Washington Post. That's the fucking headline.

And it's just a rant about how, like, polarizing political affiliations will destroy marriage for Gen Z, according to surveys. Because they're saying, like, women are becoming liberal and identify as feminists. And some men aren't doing it as quickly, but some are also conservative and that mismatch could be bad. I'm just going to read this one. This is really instructive. This is what it said. Quote, the problem with polarization, though, is that it has effects well beyond the political

realm, and these can be difficult to anticipate. One example is the collapse of American marriage. I feel like I'm fucking Tucker Carlson right now. A growing number of young women are discovering that they can't find suitable male partners. As a whole, men are increasingly struggling with or suffering from higher unemployment, lower rates of educational attainment, more drug addiction, and deaths of despair, and generally less purpose and direction in their lives. And then it goes on to say that, like, for anything to work out, someone will have to compromise. What? And we're not looking at you, fellas.

Come on, girls. Come on. We know this is a job. Those standards. I'd imagine that group is going to be the women that need to compromise. Like, what are we talking about? It's so like that goes on a coach quote. A cultural shift might be necessary.

One that views politics as part of people's identity. But far from the most important part, Americans ability to live together quite literally might depend on it. Wow. Terrible. I mean, for our lives here, guys. Come on. Terrible. I mean, the standards Come on. Terrible.

Drop your standards, ladies. Okay, I already got a red flag on this one. When you said at the top, right by the headline, you were like, by the editorial board. So whomever wrote this knew that they didn't want their actual name on it. Right, right. But then when you do that, doesn't that rope in everybody who has writes on the edit like editorial stuff like wouldn't that make sense you'd be like bro that ain't me i'm not yeah this is the official position of the washington post yeah basically how i read right isn't that because that's why you would do it right to say like it has the the oomph or behind

it or the you know it's the intentionality behind it by being that this is the stated opinion of the entire editorial board dude if i was a female or female identifying journalist at the washington post i would be like fuck you guys don't rico me in with this you know what i mean like how how right because you're right it is representative of the institution it's the voice of this paper of note and it's garbage it reminds me of that oh there was some study came out a

few years back or study puff piece maybe where they were like I can't remember the source but they said guys are having a tougher time dating on dating apps because they're conservative right so i guess i guess it does feel the same way where it's like no one wants to fuck republicans or even if they're not republican it's like maybe the the norms are shifting for

a generation where people are like yeah i'm into something more equitable so if you're on some like nah dude i think the fucking the girl should fucking like cook, dude, and do that. Like, yeah, you may be out there being like, I'm not having luck out there. Well, maybe because things are shifting a bit. Well, I think someone's going to have to compromise them because these guys aren't going to fuck themselves forever. I mean, sure, they're doing that now. But this is so upsetting though this perspective right like especially when they're like it's just like people are gonna have to get past this stuff

so they can like americans ability to live together quite literally might depend on it you're just like flattening these kinds of issues like i don't know reproductive rights or like climate change whatever into like these mere inconveniences that should be ignored if a potential life partner is diametrically opposed to that? Yeah. It's like they're treating it like it's Yankees fans and Red Sox fans choosing not to date one another. Yeah.

How do they make it work? Exactly. Exactly. Right. It's not like if the Red Sox win the World Series, Black people lose their right to vote or some shit like that. You know what I mean? Like the stakes are very different when you look at certain political ideologies.

So like to be like, can we just get over that and please bang them? Yeah. You know, and then by the end of the piece, they're saying shit like, quote, while politically mixed couples report somewhat lower levels of satisfaction than same party couples, they are still likely to be happier than those who remain single so wait wait though also that's that's a nice little bit of uh linguistic linguistic parkour a little bit of linguistic uh jujitsu stuff they they just said politically mixed couples dropping that one in like is that the new miscegenation yeah i know right oh i come from a bi-party household right you know uh so it's very difficult for me like i mean and i'm and many people do like i mean i know so many people actually like from like my my friends parents generation and beyond who are like dad is like a mega trumper and the mom is like liberal and

you're like what the fuck like and how do they stay together and then they're like yo they got divorced we're like they're like we were together for the sake of the family and some people have that other people i can see how this would lead to some kind of discord within your home but again it's just this feels like this piece feels like the dating equivalent of like when newspapers like why are young people becoming so progressive you're making it hard to maintain the status quo yeah well the status quo being what

being in a fucking loveless marriage and staying with someone that has an antithetical worldview for the good of the institution of marriage like come on come on y'all come on Washington Post the chart is like it's really interesting how much the different groups like stick together. That was the thing that was surprising to me is that like when there's an upturn in men being liberal, there's an upturn in women being liberal.

When there's downturn in men being conservative, there's downturn and men being conservative there's downturn women being conservative and like that would be the thing that if i was seeing this with fresh eyes i would be like oh that must be what the article is about is like they but it but instead it's just like they're finding the slight differences between the male levels and female levels and being like, this is bad. They're not fucking each other enough. It was very strange. Yeah. Well, you know. Also wild that they needed to reduce it

to only the white people to even like find an interesting statistical trend. Yeah. When you read the article, you're like, oh, who is this about? You're like, it's only Gen Z. And then you get further, like it's only white Gen Z. And you're like, it's white gen z and you're like it's only white cisgender gen z it's only

white cis head gen z couples it's only white cis gen z journalist at the washington post named michael named we surveyed three guys named michael who work at the washington post i yeah it so that all the more reason to kind of look at this out of the side of your eye because it's like they didn't really have an interesting statistic to hang this on they just like kind of forced it they just like really wanted to talk about how people need to fuck more republicans that's really what it feels like it boils down to because it's also doing like it feels kind of like manfluencer type shit too when they're like dude it's fucking hard out here for men dude it's hard out here for fucking women and women i did like what are you talking about like this is

not this is not and i get and i think part of that too that's a broader issue about our culture of toxic masculinity and rigid definitions of masculinity that people are falling victim to it's not because women are getting so woke that they that they're gonna fucking become sexually inert and then what they when i'm fucking marriage crumbles like come on yeah but anyway they tried they tried and whoever wrote this they did i can't believe it really hard you really tried with that one i think a lot of people saw this last week and were like what the fuck is this op-ed yeah all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back with some more shit. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray,

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Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Elon Musk is just found out about Pizzagate, it feels like. Musk is just found out about Pizzagate, it feels like. So last week as Twitter's advertisers jumped ship faster than the propeller guy from Titanic,

Elon Musk endorsed a comment pointing out that the founder of Media Matters dated the owner of the Pizzagate restaurant. Oh, which I mean, I have to connect the dots for you. Get Olivia Pope on the phone because this is a scandal. What does the Washington Post say? Yeah. Yeah. Let's wait for them for them to weigh in. Is it just is it just him pointing out that they dated like and somebody pointed out, you know, that they dated two people who ran businesses with zero connection to human trafficking, dated while living in the same city.

And Elon Musk replied, weird. But now he's really trying to reboot Pizzagate. He just posted a meme from the office claiming that the only person to debunk Pizzagate has subsequently gone to jail for child porn. So the tweet from Elon Musk does seem at least a little suspicious. And then it's Michael Scott saying Pizzagate is real. Pam from the office. No, it isn't. We have experts.

Michael Scott, they traffic children. isn't. We have experts. Michael Scott. They traffic children. Pam. But we have experts. Michael Scott. Your experts just went to jail for child porn. Pam. Puzzled. Defeated look.

Surprised because you've been truth to death. Yeah. The life has left her eyes. First of all, like just for somebody who wants so badly to be meme lord, why is Michael Scott the one saying this? If you're trying to make a point in meme form, maybe don't make the person who vocalizes that point one of TV's most famous idiots.

But I think that's precisely why. It's like, what if the idiots won this round? Tired of the idiots losing tired of like why can't michael be the one and catch pam off guard yes by the way that abc reporter did not debunk pizza gate that claim originates with a bogus image of a new york post headline which circulated the internet uh last summer was widely called out for being a fabrication at the time so you can go find the new york post headline it's been altered and the story doesn't even mention pizzagate so they're just somebody has altered the headline to continue keeping this as a story that people give a shit about and now he's talking q anon too so he's trying to do he's doing it all right now you know yeah just trying to get

shake the trees and see what comes down falling into the fertile soil of x but i don't know dude it's just a lot of weird shit you're doing it's just an echo chamber of bullshit and like myths and yeah lies did you guys see that i was gonna save this for the end but it has to occur now did you guys see that tweet he made where he is literally literally doing the edgelord thing of old he's like holding a sword and he's talking about how he's prepared for his enemies. Did you guys see that one? When was that? I think it was over the Thanksgiving break. Oh, thank God. I was looking out for my mental and didn't even open this.

I completely missed that. It's so wild, though. He was chilling with a fucking sword. Yes. I mean, he's been doing like, there's the sword one. There was one where he was like firing a gun. And he was like, my enemies better watch out or something like that yeah yeah he is uh he is you know what i rescind my title he is now the most interesting eighth grader because that's like yeah it was a

very tone deaf attempt to emulate something that he thought would be relatable. I imagine, right. Emulate the coolest guy. Any of us know, which is always sword guy guy. He's really into swords. You know,

yeah, that spoke right to me when, is that a Joe Rogan studio? Uh, are you seeing it now? Yeah. He has one in his basement. The way Barbara Streisand has a mall

In her basement He has Joe Rogan's studio in his basement But yeah, he stood in front of An American flag with like a steer head And a fucking katana Wow, wow, wow I try not to pick fights But I do finish them

Oh, do the whole You gotta do the whole caption He worked hard on it. Wait, where's the other one? Do I'm seeing so many versions of this post? What's the other one? I think it's, he says something like there's a large

graveyard filled with his enemies. It's very like back in the earlier days of the internet, there was that copy pasta of someone saying well you studied so and so i studied the blade right it's giving off yeah unhappy middle school energy that's fucking great he definitely believes that studied the blade he'd definitely been studying the blade and i'm by the looks of that sword i think he got on

qvc yeah well you know you get a price break if you buy five so he's got exactly he's got a couple but uh this is dangerous right this guy is hemorrhaging money for an a purchase that he couldn't get out of uh he's weaponizing social media and i think it's it speaks to like this larger groundswell of very financially powerful forces attempting to push the overton window further and further to the right yes yeah and yeah just be straight up fascist and be like i'm i will control you with violence and loneliness in my basement rogan someone please visit me yeah i i realized that he then replied to that post at the bottom he said oh yeah i forgot to add that i'm my own worst enemy by far no need for others to dig my grave but i'm doing it so well myself lmao oh my god they're like, dude, are you fucking badass

sword man or are you self-deprecating comic? They can't do both, my man. Get the fuck out of here with this shit. Pick a lane. Also, I will say one aspirational note. Definitely proved to us yet again that if you have enough

money, you can just host SNL. You don't have to be good. You could just be on Saturday Night Live. You seem to be on the list of five people of relevance that gets delivered to Lorne Michaels every day.

Right. He's got his list of the biggest movers of Q rating this week, Lorne. What's the Q score? All right. Let's have this guy on. What's Jeff Bezos?

Great. Has Bezos hosted? He's going to. I mean, why not? By this logic, he should have more fucking hosting opportunities than John Goodman. What's john goodman's net worth he's he's not worth shit i know he's a fucking loser wow that is a quote from lord michaels we're gonna start that here bezos at home just furious that he hasn't hosted snl yet dude oh my god can you i but you believe it with those kinds of guys too that like they hold on to this like weird impossible dream that like their money apps

normally just it's just like the one thing they can't make happen with their money it's like i should be on snl i should be featured cast like dude? They should just replace the cast with me, Jeff Bezos. I can do characters. Watch. Watch this. Oh, hi. It's me. Karen. See? That's a character I call Barbara. Now watch this one. You're like, oh, fuck.

And now a room full of Ivy League grads are laughing uproariously. I must be hilarious. Has nothing to do with the fact that I employ them. I have to see Sweden Stitches every fucking day. Yeah, because that's a big part of it, too. The vanity projects, yes, there is great scientific benefit to exploring space and so on,

even though, obviously, it's a problematic vanity project for a lot of these guys. But you can't buy your way into people genuinely liking you. You cannot purchase that. And I think we see that in these posts in Twitter, right? We see a guy who wants desperately to have a crowd of folks simping for him or being sycophants and saying like yeah right on buddy you get it we're not so different you and i uh which is always a villain line you

know yeah it's just so needy though because like you would assume as the world's richest man who is like you know has all these problematic beliefs that like there would be this like calculating nature but like he's just so needy and desperate and kind of pathetic in a lot of ways right i think that's the thing that's unexpected to me and look hey we're we i i think all of us on on the show today and all of us listening at home, hopefully, we're somewhat ethical people. So honestly, if it comes out that somehow this Pizzagate stuff was real, or if it turns out that Elon Musk is actually fucking nasty with a katana. Yeah. What if this whole thing is like some kind of Kaufman bit, you know?

And at the end, he's like, sorry, faked you out it's all right guys yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm nipping this climate change thing in the butt i'm sorry i want this bit going on too long i'm giving all my money to help uh figure that out all right i'm out of here right exactly but i i again i think that that appeal for inclusion uh or that toward inclusion is, as you guys put it so aptly, that is dangerous. First off, that is also, if you are another bad faith actor in the rarefied air of billionaires and state leaders, that lets you know that guy's easy to push. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. You just be like, hey, it's me, Kim from DPRK.

Sick tweets, bro. Really? You like them? That's what I was saying. Oh, man, my publicist said I'm going to completely fuck up everything if I do. But thanks, dude. I really appreciate that, man. Anyway, can I help you with anything?

Exactly. That guy's cool. That guy's cool. That guy's cool. He gets it. Yeah. And you're like, I'm sorry, Kim Jong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah. He's cool. He's cool. I mean, I, I'm kind of joking, but that's exactly what happened with Donald Trump. Right?

Yeah. No. Yeah. Guys, we're so fucked. If Donald Trump gets elected again, like we're, Oh God,

it's crazy. Yeah. Well, Hey, you know, we got a whole... We got a whole... So, because we're an audio show, you just need to know, folks, that while we were recording this, when Jack dropped that bomb, Miles and I both just

sort of sighed heavily and both looked away from the camera. And we were thinking about our lives. We just, I just had to be like, okay, what's the healthy thought here? And I'm like, oh, there's a lot of time. There's a lot of time before I have to really contend with that. Or Project 2025. Coming to a fucking office near you.

Yeah. Project 2025. Fuck. Ben, what a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you, follow you,

all that good stuff? Yeah, you can find me calling myself in a burst of creativity at Ben Bolin on Twitter. You can find me at, oh wait,

at Ben Bolin HSW on Twitter. Unprofessional. Bad, bad, bad. And you can find me on Instagram at Ben Bolin, B O W L I N tune into stuff. They don't want you to know,

check out Jack and miles on ridiculous history as well. Coming back to you soon with some more historical flexes, which is, which is always a fun time. I think this will be our third iteration. If we can, if we can get it on the books. And in the meantime, most

important... Nope, that's it. Fake out. Oh, shit. Wow, hit me with the hezi. Okay. Wow. I bet. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. So, thought we were done, right, with the shout-out to

that, you know, peak internet meme of a guy with a katana burying his enemies on the internet. Here's what I want to read to you. It is from Zach Silberberg on Twitter. It says, I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus. Now they're going to bed and my stomach is sick and it's all in my head, but she's touching his chest. That's great. Just for a good note. So shout out. Shout out, Zach.

Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Find me on at-based platforms, at Miles of Grey. Even Laps that Anna sent me an invite to and i was like what how do i use there's so many new apps yeah there's like it's like a it's like a disposable camera type thing but like yeah there's so many new apps yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll uh like do you want to invite to

an app you'll never use hit me up bro i got it I got it for you. Because I'm the same way. I'm like, let me get an invite. I'm like, I'll use this shit for five minutes and then forget that I have this shit because. Oh, that's my boy, Miles. He has the invite to all the apps he'll never use. He'll never use, bro. He's the plug, dude.

He doesn't even know what half of them are. Anyway, find me there. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosty's. Also find me on my 90 day fiance podcast for 20 day fiance with sophia alexandra uh work of media i like actually what i would like to do is big up my friend kim cooper who has a live show happening tuesday december 5th if you're in la i promise you this is a one-woman show that you'll want to see. It's called trauma response. And it's her story as a

transracial Korean adoptee. And just like a very comedic one hour show about her just like everyday life traumas. And, you know, she was like, born in Korea, but then adopted by a family in Iowa. And she had a lot of questions growing up because she was the only Korean person she knew and pretty much thought she was white. And it's just like a very interesting powerful show and i really would love for people who live in la to check it out uh support her we will have a link for those tickets in the footnotes but it's going to be tuesday december 5th at the broadwater second stage on santa monica in hollywood so yeah please check that out i'm gonna keep plugging it because i saw it saw earlier performance and it was really

fucking dope and like just the, I don't know, there's something really great about a well done one person show. I know Marcella was talking about it last time she was on, but this is kind of like in line with it where you get, you get it all. You get the feelings, you get the thought provoking stuff and you get a lot of laughs. So yeah,

that's what I'm telling people to check out. I'll link in the footnotes. There you go. Footnotes. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Destry at Destry Broad tweeted, if carbs were so bad for us, why is Jesus made of them? And then at Marissa tweeted,

I like my chicken tendies the way I like my holy infants, tender and mild. Two food-based Body of Christ jokes that I really enjoyed. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist

on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

This is a track called Gotta Come From Somewhere, and it's by the band Golf Alpha Bravo. And they're like a psychedelic surf blues kind of band, Gotta Come From Somewhere, and it's by the band Golf Alpha Bravo. And they're like a psychedelic surf blues kind of band. I guess they would describe themselves. But this is like a really dope track. Not many people have been listening to it on Spotify. It might be big elsewhere.

But if you like a little bit of psych rock, but it has like a little bit of backbeat to it, you can kind of nod your head to it. Check this out. It's called Gotta Come From Somewhere by Golf Alpha alpha bravo all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcaster wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.

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