The Daily Zeitgeist - War It Is, Every 90s TV Show Is Being Rebooted 2.25.22
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 225, episode four of The Daily Zeitgeist,
a production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Today we'll be talking about things happening outside of America a little bit, but always
from an ignorant-ass American point of view, in my case.
It is Friday, February 25th, 2022. My name is Jack
O'Brien, aka urine in my glass. Just urine in my glass. That is a you're in, you are in my heart.
I don't think that's it. You'll be in my heart is the original name. That's courtesy of Radio Georgio.
I just wanted to, you know, it's good to be reminded on this day of war and hell around the world
that we still live in a country where people drink their own pee to combat a disease that is not combated by drinking your own pee.
Anyways, I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host
Mr. Miles Gray!
Yes, it's Miles Gray!
Just completely gobsmacked
with all the news.
So, an AKA is
just a guy
living in hell
with everybody else and looking at the
countless horrors that abound.
Or Hideo Noho, you know? Just to keep it light. Oh, sorry. hell with everybody else and looking at the countless horrors that abound or hideo noho
you know just to keep it light so yeah oh sorry this day of war we reach i hate to i hate to like
make a joke but it is national clam chowder day national wait that's what i was referring to
what are you the the suffering around the world? I was referring to National Clam Chowder Day, eh?
No specific.
It's not New England or Manhattan on this day.
The clams chowder unite with one another and celebrate.
Very nonspecific.
But, you know, I think that's the clam chowder lobby's attempt at bringing unity.
Well, if we can't take a goddamn lesson from that, you know, I don't know what.
I don't know what. I don't know what.
All right.
Well, Miles Rithrill to be joined by a hilarious and talented podcaster, comedian, writer.
He's the founder of the nationally renowned stand-up Institoosh Chatterbox Comedy Night,
one of the hosts of the monthly comedy show Worship.
You can read the Bible with him on his podcasts and or youtube
show read the bible with me please welcome steve hernandez you know you kids don't remember this
i'm a little older than you guys but uh you know now there's clam chowder everywhere it's accessible
pretty much anywhere you go but i'm telling you you, I'm not kidding you. When I was growing up, you had to be down at Newport Beach.
You had to be at the BJ's by the beach.
When there was one, you had to be over at the Ruby's Pier,
or you had to be by the Pirates of Caribbean to get a clam chowder bread bowl.
But, you know, clam chowder has come so far, and so have we, fellas.
I'm really happy to be here.
It's been so long, and, you know,
what a day to bring on the sex Bible guy, right?
It's the beginning of World War III.
That's right.
Let's bring the polyamorous Bible guy on,
and I think he's going to be able to walk us through all of this stuff.
Yeah.
And for people who think, oh, this was just a coincidence,
no, we planned, we said, depending on what happens.
We actually coordinated with
putin's people we were like so what's this thing going down for real all right we gotta get all
right bringing the hern bringing the herninator and what do we need more at a time of war than
sex and the bible you know yeah so let's escape together i do feel like people fuck a lot during
war right that's not no that's not just
the movies you're laying it on the line i'm telling you i've been you know when the at the
start of the pandemic the war these intense times you're really pressing in i know you two have been
in long-term relationships i'm telling you when we me and my wife shut the door we pretended to
be strangers and we were just go we were getting grimy in there fellas that was today yeah oh yeah yesterday the day before i was just forget that i know your dad
well okay forget that time that we held each other to your aunts like battle with cancer forget all
that let's pretend we're strangers let's get grimy and i feel like that's that's the next step to do
with all of this horror that you know we're facing in the world today.
Yeah. I mean, there it is. All right. Steve, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about today.
We're obviously going to be talking about Russia invading Ukraine and the kind of allout war that appears to be happening over there we're gonna
come in with a little good news about gerrymandered maps taking l's back back here in the u.s and then
we'll talk about some really good news law and order is back to solve was it ever gone? Yeah, bro. The original Law & Order got cancelled
in 2010.
Oh, that's...
Wait, but aren't there multiple
Law & Orders still out there, right?
Yeah, for sure.
I think so. Like SVU,
all that business.
There's the new one with
Italian mob... I think it's called the Crime Unit
or something like that with mobsters. I think it's called the Crime Unit or something like that.
It's mobsters.
But this is the original.
Yo, they're still fighting Italian mobsters.
And they brought it back.
It's a reboot.
And they brought that one guy back.
I've never seen one episode of the show.
But I am aware of this.
My wife is obsessed.
So they brought, I think his name's Stadler back or whatever.
Oh, right. It's just straight Italian mob. is obsessed so they brought i think his name's stat stadler back or whatever and okay right it's
just straight italian mob and it uh i have seen two episodes of that one and it's actually pretty
funny so it's stadler from stadler and waldorf right he's fighting crime yeah okay so we're
going to talk about that i had no idea by the way that law and order had been canceled in 2010 it does seem like it
never left but they brought back the original the ripped from the headlines original and the first
headline they ripped was was an interesting one so we'll talk they kind of made up their own but
it's about the murder of bill cosby yeah. A little fan fiction in there.
Anyways, all of that.
Plenty more.
Probably mostly that, actually.
But before we get to all of it, before we get to it all, Steve, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
I searched Jeff Daniels because I took my dad to get a colonoscopy yesterday and uh my dad is a recent
convert liberal since Trump came into office my dad hates no one more than Donald Trump since he
called Mexicans rapists and uh my dad is obsessed still to this day with Donald Trump but he's a
pretty new liberal guy so right to him it's like joe biden is still like a good guy and uh donald trump is still the bad guy right and uh so my dad's
yeah yeah yeah so yeah my dad's still mad at trump even though he's lost and everything
and so my dad was like you know what i saw this really i saw this guy on this stage give a really
interesting speech and uh this somebody said why is america great and the first
person said oh uh you know this thing and then the second person and then this third guy was like
we're not and my dad's just telling me about this clip and then he's like he said i'll find it for
you he's like i'll find it for you i'll send it to you and he sent it to me and it was simply
a clip from the newsroom the newsroom yeah so i had to google jeff daniels because i was like
what the i had oh man i had to remember the name of the show so speaking of colonoscopy you should
have sent back the clip of him from dumb and dumber and i'm like yo i have another clip of
this guy that's what i honestly jack that's where I thought it was going.
When you said colonoscopy, I was like, were you sending him like the fucking the the X-Lax violent shitting scene gif?
But no, no, it was just I was just like, I mean, you know, I'm like yelling at my dad about stuff and he's going like death.
He was in printing for years.
And so he's very he's hard of hearing
him with the masks it's near impossible so i'm like yelling at him in public and people think
i'm like abusing my poor dad but uh yeah i mean but you know i'd like i said i'd rather have him
on this side than the other side i know a lot of people have parents where they're uh staunch
republicans still so i'm glad this thing but i mean this poor
guy yeah he's not fellas if you're a man out there make sure that you get a lot of friends
that you maintain your male friendships because you're going to get older and you're not going
to have any friends the next thing you know your your kid's yelling at you at the va and uh everyone's
wearing masks right yeah oh man the maintaining of friendships thing that's that's
for real i feel like that is like a thing like where some of my older male relatives like in my
life i'm like how come how come auntie has all these friends over but there's nobody here well
that's i mean you know you think it's cool like to be a wife guy you see these guys are just like
wife guys and yes it is great to treat your wife with love and respect. But if you don't have these male friendships, then like my dad, you know, I worry about the poor guy.
My dad goes, I think he goes days sometimes without talking to anyone.
And I'm just like, God damn.
I mean, I told him the other day, I was like, you got to get some hobbies, man.
You're going to be alive for at least 10 or 15 more years.
And you can't go out like this, man.
You poor guy.
And he's like, I know, I know.
Maybe I'll get a job.
And I was like, yeah, whatever.
He's going to hire you, dad.
You know, he was a workaholic his whole life.
And then even now he said, why do I, I remember even a couple of years ago,
why do I need friends?
I have you guys, his kids.
And I'm like, yikes, give me a break. I don't want the responsibility for you all the time i love you i can call you once a week and
hang out with you every other week but yeah this poor fucking guy but uh you know there's hope he's
a charming guy if you guys were to meet him you guys would love my dad sounds like he needs a
podcast i you know what my dad is so funny and if he had the ability to like be himself on the thing, but he just clams up, but he is a hilarious guy. He considers himself like a ladies man still. Uh, yeah. I mean, and he is a good looking Mexican guy for like being 67. He like could probably pull like, you know, someone 20 years younger if that's a pulling thing. But But he is also, like, just weird in the head, too.
He's very – that stuff is very important to him.
Every, like – I swear to you, every other year he'll say,
you know, I would never sleep with one of my son's ex-wives or girlfriends.
And, you know, we're just, like, watching a TV show.
And I'm like, oh, you know, that's good.
I didn't think that was – I didn't know that was on –
That's not even in the plot.
Didn't know it was on the table. Nobody's talking about this, and he's just, was i didn't know that was not even in the plot didn't know it was on
the table uh nobody's talking about this and he's just i want you to know that i would never that
do that to one of my sons and i'm like thank you for that day yeah wait hold on you got opportunities
for those i'm not saying nothing i'm just saying you don't got to worry about me
okay if you are which you shouldn't be your father you don't need to be
this is a real thing he does too i wish i was joking about it Okay. If you are, which you shouldn't be. I'm your father. You don't need to be.
This is a real thing he does too.
I wish I was joking about it.
Just out of nowhere, you're watching like Abbott Elementary
and he's like,
you know,
I would never sleep with my kids,
ex-wives or girlfriends.
You're like,
I'm sorry,
what?
They don't tell like some story from a movie.
Like I saw it on this movie
and I just,
I think that's a dastardly thing to do.
And I was like, okay.
Was your dad super religious?
No.
He only brings up God when it's convenient, whenever my polyamory comes up.
But besides that, he's fine.
I mean, he loves God like a Mexican, you know, like, just when it comes up.
On these, like, big, like, things, you know.
Yeah.
All right, fellas.
If you need a friend, friend i mean it sounds like
steve's dad wild ride charming motherfucker just keep your keep your wives or significant others
close yeah if you're not his sons i would be concerned okay because only our girls are off
limits the rest of you guys forget about it i want a thing where it's like i'd even though this is i'm
this is my stoner
brand i'm like i'd watch a show where your dad is in someone's ear on a tinder date and just
navigate you do not want to hear this guy's opinions i know i'm just saying i just it's
my favorite kind of content is someone with an earwig in getting fed lines and with an older
ladies man i can only imagine some of those takes.
We do talk about sex sometimes.
He's so old school, he still thinks, like, good sex is the longer you have it.
So it's like, oh, no, Dad.
He's like, yeah, one time, going about an hour and a half, I was like, that woman had a UTI, Dan.
Well, speaking of people, aging people who need things to do, some have suggested Putin is facing his eventual demise and choosing to invade countries to make himself feel alive again. I think mainly that's been suggested by us on this podcast.
But just a theory we're throwing out there.
What's something you think is overrated, Steve?
I think Disneyland is overrated.
I know.
I don't know.
Weren't you just there?
I was just there.
I was going to say, I'm like, weren't you just there?
And it continues to be overrated, okay?
Right.
Sure, sure.
I've always hated that place.
If anybody grew up poor going to Disneyland, it's like one of the worst.
It's great that we got in, sure.
But I just have so many going back there.
I have so many bad memories and real deep down hurts and stuff.
But I just remember eating a sandwich.
You used to have to leave the park
and you would like have to eat your food like by the car.
I just remember eating like a wet sandwich
and looking like some rich family slamming hot dogs
with the souvenirs and stuff.
I just feel like they're always taking advantage of you.
They're always trying to squeeze every bit of money off you.
Jack, I bet you take your family there.
I bet you you're dropping, and this is no joke,
you're probably dropping $1,500
if you were to take their family there for one day.
That sounds about right. I have not
taken them. Yes. You've got to wait
until they're a little older.
No, he said until the kids deserve it, right?
Yeah.
I do the Tom Hanks
in Saving Private Ryan. I say,
earn this.
I take them all the way there.
And then I say, no, you got to earn it.
Wait, and you're dying from a gunshot wound?
Yeah, for some reason.
After you're shooting your handgun at a tank?
I feel like it just adds impact to the statement.
If I pretend like I'm...
And then your kid ages 50 years before your eye is looking at you like Matt Damon did?
You know, it takes what it takes by the haunted mansion
no at the the singing bears that just by the okay mr o'brien
no so but we did go recently julia was, my mom wants to go for a birthday.
And I was like, absolutely not.
She's like, they're paying for everything.
I said, when do we go?
Let's do it.
Hell yeah.
Did you see any of the new shit?
I went on the new Star Wars ride.
I mean, it's bad.
The whole thing's bad.
The thing that is, it was fun, but we're men now.
So the idea of waiting for 75 minutes
for a three-minute ride, and we did
a couple of those back-to-back. It's just like,
what are we doing?
And her parents are 67.
They're in great shape, good-looking, older people.
And then her sister,
I got this beautiful white family and me,
and we're just standing
in line for 75 minutes in a row
for the Cars ride i was like
give me a break the saddest thing though the former autopia yeah the car side was kind of cool
but we didn't have any kids with us either so it's one thing if you're taking kids you're living
through them and that i think is what was heartbreaking too because you see all these
families like a lot of working class families or whatever and you know they're just trying to be good like good parents taking their kids to experience this thing but it's so wrapped
in like capitalism and buying things that it's just like oh this is our idea of tradition is
we're just going to get wrapped in this thing where we all keep getting taken advantage of
generation after generation. Yeah.
Go and buy the useless plastic items that you'll never use again.
I saw a Cholo yelling at his toddler.
You don't want to see a Cholo yelling at his toddler at Disneyland.
Over what?
What did the toddler do?
Come on.
The toddler was like talking back to him.
The toddler was like yelling at him. The toddler was yelling at him.
He goes, no, you broke it or something. The toddler was literally in there. And toddler was yelling at him he goes no you broke it or something the toddler was literally in the and the cholo was like no you broke it
and like yeah and i was like this poor cholo like what is the cholo doing saving up for this and
he's yelling at his toddler and the wife said like go get away from to the dad like go walk
over there and i saw the dad get a sugar-free monster how sad is that he just stood in line i
mean i was just waiting in this thing and i watched him get a sugar-free monster. How sad is that? He just stood in line. I mean, I was just waiting in this thing,
and I watched him get a sugar-free monster.
Cholo pounding a sugar-free monster,
working his ass off to take his family,
just to be berated by his toddler.
I went to that haunted mansion.
It's not scary.
I don't even know if it was ever.
I don't know if it was ever scary, guys.
I was going to say, I don't think that's contested, really.
Yeah, we're from, you know, I'm from an abused home.
Long pictures are not scary to me. You know what's scary? My mom getting back with my dad when I was going to say, I don't think that's contested, really. Yeah, I'm from an abused home. Long pictures are not scary to me.
You know what's scary?
My mom getting back with my dad when I was little.
That was frightening, fellas.
You know what's scary, fellas?
The time my dad lost his wallet.
That was scary.
Let's capture that in a haunted mansion, huh?
And insisted he knew where it went.
Spoiler alert, it wasn't.
That theory was false.
That was near 35 years ago, and I'm not forgetting that one.
Haunted by it, if you will.
Yeah.
What is something you think is underrated?
Are you guys A-list members?
Oh, AMC?
Yeah.
No.
It's like the fourth time this shit came up this week.
No, I'm not.
I haven't been to a theater since pre-Panda River get your get your sturdy mask you still haven't been in the movies
no you don't like movies that much i yeah that's that would track i mean i don't like going i
my love of going to the movie theater died in 2010 around there i realized like when i started
like working oh interesting and now i'll watch it
at home though like i'll take movies in at home but the theater experience i think you know also
happened is i used to get free parking passes to city walk because i grew up in north hollywood
like in like this like one mile rate like this radius where universal would send you free parking
passes so in those days i'd always be like i'm I'm there, I'm there, I'm there. That dialed back. I got crushed by working life and then, yeah, it became more about weed and
staying at home. I love the A-list. I've got a group of people used to have a movie podcast and
we developed like a movie club out of it. But if you're an A-list member, it's something where
it's 20, it's $24.99 a month from AMC.
There's various AMCs around our area.
And you can go three times a week.
And it's something, $25 is like the cost of two tickets, basically.
But it's something in the crew where you just say, you know, I feel like doing that.
And I'll go.
I have a Vespa now.
And I can go to the Grove without paying for parking.
Oh, shit.
And Universal, it's only $5 with this thing.
So you'll catch me with my girl at CityWalk, you know?
Wait, you're going to have Vespa to CityWalk?
I won't Vespa to CityWalk.
I was going to say.
It feels too crazy.
But I do go on the freeway with it and stuff.
I have Vespa to CityWalk yet, I should say.
Wow.
Do you guys share the 25?
Like, do you share a membership?
No, we each have a membership.
You could reserve tickets to give.
Come on, they're not scumbags, Jack.
I don't know.
It's not like you can go like a soda and share the soda.
Right.
We each have to have the ticket.
But I go with different people.
I have a bunch of people I go with all the time.
And you'll just say, hey, let's go tonight at 10 o'clock after the die down of everything.
You know, luckily, we don't have kids yet.
That's going to end shortly.
Pretty soon.
I can feel you.
I could feel feel her, you know, Lord.
She shakes her fist at me.
She wants this baby soon.
So that's going to be ending soon.
But me and my girl will go to City Walk on a Monday night.
Miles, do you remember what a fucking do you remember what a treat CityWalk used to be when you're 19 years old
What a date destination
And now, me and my girl go there
On a Tuesday night, 10 o'clock
We don't have to pay for the ticket
We'll buy some concessions, I'm just looking at her beautiful eyes
And you know, everything is romantic
And full disclosure
You're not sponsored by AMC
Because people are going to think we're running a PSYOP
Every couple days It's like, you know what's great, AMC because people are going to think we're running a PSYOP on every couple of days.
It's like, you know, it's great.
AMC, A-list, man.
For $24.99 a month.
Other people have brought this up and they're underrated or something.
People keep talking about it.
Yeah, people have mentioned it for sure.
In conjunction with that or like movie, we talked about movie pass and then someone brought up,
Jaquese brought up his love for movie pass or A-list.
But yeah, I get it.
It's like the movie pass that actually
works and you can yeah and it's not going away yeah it's not going away so movie pass we all
knew that was going away yeah but but this thing's not going anywhere and like i said it's great to
be in the movies when we're in the middle of lockdown and stuff i remember thinking man i
would do anything to be at a movie right now. And so I love this.
It's affordable.
I don't drink.
I have nothing else but movies and food.
And so I absolutely love it, and I recommend everyone to get it.
And then you can go see a movie with me for free, essentially.
Oh, yes.
And you can get that Coca-Cola Freestyle machine.
They do have the Freestyle.
Did you call it the COVID-Cola freestyle?
Coca-Cola.
I think that was a slip.
COVID-Cola.
You look at COVID-Cola.
Because you do start thinking about COVID when you're up there, and there's just residue from the past 20 people.
I don't know.
That guy who was just licking it to get the flavor off the little button is probably fine.
Do you know there was a time, though,
when they first opened up the movies
where you couldn't get your own drink?
So for maybe six months,
there was a worker there, and you had to tell
them on the freestyle what you wanted.
Give me a break.
Let me get a
peach ginger ale. What was that?
Let me get a peach ginger ale.
Yo, he's fucking with a peach ginger ale. No let me get a peach ginger ale no i just for just regular then
man yeah it just felt bad like anything that wasn't like as a regular drink like you're like
oh yeah i get nasty with that thing i like to do a coke zero and then ruin any calorie saving by
put just loading it up with cherry syrup and there you go. Now we're talking about some good stuff.
They do have Diet Sherry Coke. That's not what I'm getting, Miles.
I'm going to the Coke Zero and then I am
adding the cherry syrup and it adds a little kick.
Okay. The P-Dog of the freestyle machine.
Sprinkle a little bit of that stuff in there
for people outside la who don't know what universal city walk is it's like a
it's a combination mall theme park right like it feels like and when it opened it had like
weird references like there was a store that kind of like was a nod to back to the future, but then became the billabong store.
There was like,
they're like Panasonic just had a,
like an absolutely useless storefront to show off like the three DO gaming system,
but you couldn't buy shit in there.
I remember I was like,
yo,
this place is fucking weird.
It is the church of capitalism.
Like they have all the like big theme chain restaurants.
I went recently for the first time, got a, Bell, but it was a really nice Taco Bell experience.
It's a nice Taco Bell.
It's a very nice Taco Bell.
You end up paying about, I figured out, about $50, maybe $1 more per item.
Oh, yeah.
That was the most expensive Taco Bell.
Felt like John Daly out here.
It looks nice, though.
I mean, like real real fat soft taco uh it looks like
the pictures but you do pay a premium for it but you know when you're at city walk you spare no
expense and if you have an a-list it's virtually free oh boy you're an a-list member um all right
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Ukraine.
Wait, hold on.
Steve's wearing a disguise.
Rip it off.
It's Nicole Kidman.
I knew it.
I knew it.
How weird is that?
All right.
Before we go to break, we do have to talk about that, which now it plays before every movie.
She is not watching any of those movies with the amount of rapture that she's portraying.
She's a good actor, but it is just such a strange.
It's too highbrow. Right.
It's highbrow mixed with like she's watching Creed 2.
They change out the movies that she's watching and the newest one she's watched.
It's Spider-Man multiverse.
And I always in my head, I'm always picturing going, wow, a black Spider-Man.
Wow, that's wild.
Oh, this really is an upside-down Spider-Verse.
That's wild.
Somebody, a reporter told her, did you see this thing going around where a reporter told her that the No Cold Kidney commercial is like caught on and like people on the Internet love it?
And she said, is that real?
And they're like, yes, it's actually a pretty big thing.
And she said, you got to admit, the movies are pretty magical.
Oh, I love it.
So I like that better, actually, that it's not like this forced together thing where they're just like trying to do a highbrow thing and then replace.
Because it feels like one of those Oscar, like, you know, coming back from the commercial of the Oscars where Nicole Kidman's like watching Sound of Music and like cinematic classics.
But they just like replaced it with whatever the latest box office hits are but i like
it better that she is the auteur behind it and she's just like really that basic and just really
is like movies though am i right right that's why i'm into them she did in the article she goes
heartbreak really does feel good in a place like that right you know
she's like sometimes you know, in the movies.
She's like, sometimes you just go to the movies to cry, you know?
It's like, yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh, you thought that was written for me?
Hell no.
I remember when I saw Joe Dirt for the first time.
Inconsolable, basically.
So tragic.
Oh, man.
That would be amazing. She really fucks with every movie.
Because that's also like
kind of the vibes that tom cruise gives off right is he just like fucking love the movies yeah so
like you know there was that thing where he went on um well some late night show i was like the
movies are great am i right and i was like this is such cynical bullshit but i i actually believe
him i believe he's like that's what they first bonded over oh yeah do you remember how stoked This is such cynical bullshit, but I actually believe him.
Like, that's what they first bonded over.
Oh, yeah.
Do you remember how stoked he was?
Like, he went to the British, like, premiere with a mask to see, what was the Christopher Nolan movie?
Tenet, yeah.
And he's just like, yeah!
We thought that was all, like, for show, but that's just him at every movie.
He's, like, out here at Despicable Me 3, just losing his mind.
Oh, my God.
This baby's a boss.
He's like, wow.
Magic in front of our eyes, folks.
All right, Nicole.
It's him and Nicole Kidman, their first date.
They're like, say your favorite movie.
One, two, three.
Batteries not included. They're both saying it your favorite movie. One, two, three. Batteries Not Included.
They're both saying it at the same time.
Exactly.
He's like, yeah, those little robots and stuff helping them out.
He says Batteries Not Included.
He says Short Circuit.
I thought that was my second.
Almost.
80s Robo Wave.
80s Robo Waveave 80s RoboWave
oh fuck
alright this is definitely what I needed
after just mainlining
news for the past
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And I mean, I don't know how much we need to summarize for people.
Putin announced a special military operation and i think people most people assumed
he was going to go after you know limited regions that he had been talking about and
as of thursday morning it appears that it's just he's trying to invade all of Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah.
And like real, a lot of force, a lot of bombs being dropped, missiles being fired at places
that aren't military targets.
Yeah.
And, you know, this is, this thing's been a long, there's so much tension in that region
for so long and it gets to this point.
And on some level, a lot of
people like, okay, well, the logic that Putin puts out is that he's, he's pushing back against the
expansion of NATO doesn't like the idea of NATO bases and like nuclear arms or any kind of military
installations, just dotted along the border of Russia. But when you also hear the way he talks about Ukraine, it's also, you also hear that he has a very much like imperialistic idea of,
of, you know,
cobbling together or reclaiming some identity of like a Russian empire because
of the way he talks about, you know,
Ukraine doesn't really even have a right to exist, which is not true at all.
But that rhetoric sort of shows like the dimensions of sort of what he's
sort of going after. And while there's plenty of awful takes on the Internet right now,
my goodness, I think the thing that people really need to sort of broadly understand is that,
you know, this is a situation where the people of Ukraine are now caught in a power struggle
between Russia and their, you know, specifically Putin's desire to reform what was lost when the Soviet Union dissolved.
But also NATO and the U.S., because they're one in the same, especially when you think of that
NATO was created by the U.S. and Western allies specifically to fight communism after World War
II, that there is also this idea that, you know, that NATO is trying to stick up
for this idea of human rights and the U.S. is backing that and the sovereignty of borders.
And many, many people point out the contradictions there, like the Secretary General of the U.N.,
Guterres was saying, like, you know, this is completely goes against the U.N. charter.
And, you know, when many people point to the fact that, you know, whether that
was NATO bombing Yugoslavia in the late 90s or Bush's invasion of Iraq, that idea has not been
really respected globally, not by NATO or the US. And this is now just putting regular people
directly in the line of fire and is going to kick off a terrible humanitarian crisis.
directly in the line of fire and is going to kick off a terrible humanitarian crisis.
And we're just sort of now watching it sort of trickle in in real time in this like really bizarre way where everything's on social media and you're getting, you know, there's loads
of like old war clips that are circulating and then ones you actually do see of what's
happening on the ground.
Right.
Old war clips being claimed to be like footage of what's happening right now.
Yeah, exactly. on the ground right old work that's being claimed to be like footage of what's happening right now yeah exactly and that's just kind of the surreal nature of a of a war being fought in 2022 in the
age of like the internet and social media but you know the right now it sounds like or most people
feel like that all of this is at the moment putin needs some kind of optics win to be able to cease
any kind of further military action.
Now, whether or not he's even interested in seizing that is a completely different question.
And I'm not even equipped to begin to speculate on that.
But a lot of people have suggested, you know, he needs some guarantee that Ukraine will
be someone who is going to be neutral, will definitely not be part of NATO.
But also in exchange for that, they have to fully retreat
and pull all of their military infrastructure
and manpower out of Ukraine
to begin to get any kind of concession like that.
But, you know, the last thing that's needed
is a military escalation
because the only thing that,
like it's the people of Ukraine
that are going to pay dearly
for increased military
incursions in that like in their country but it's just a very you know your my heart goes out to all
of these people watching people have to say that oh i gotta fight for my country or whatever is
harrowing and the flip side of that too is that this is happening all over the world and you know
we're just in a moment where this part of the world is getting the most attention but it's yeah it's difficult yeah
robert evans uh and jake hanrahan from cool zone media were have two interviews with people on the
ground in ukraine like journalists who have been kind of following this and yeah it's just you know
first of all the the analysis that was coming from their side,
just kind of being a little bit closer to it than me, which it would be hard to not be closer to it
than me because I am dumb as shit about this sort of thing. But their theory is that Putin
wants to do shock and awe, Blitzkrieg type thing, get the Ukrainians to surrender quickly and then get a peace treaty, install his own leader. It's like regime change and much like we're watching another country do what
the u.s did has done many times but specifically in iraq yeah you know and i've and i've seen
people you know on the internet talk about the u.s is does this all the time right and and a lot
of people like you don't start with this what about ism it's not a what about ism like many
things are true at the same time yeah you know the u.s has a very well-defined history of you know uh regime change i'm just
hoping that seeing it happen like when it's not the u.s and not tied up in some massive like
jingoistic like cultural bombardment campaign that we get at home what like seeing it and being like
oh yeah that's
also what they said when we launched what we're supposed to be precision laser guided missiles
peacekeeping mission right yeah yeah exactly we will indiscriminately destroy a country
yeah but even leading up to this it does feel like the u.s media has been pushing for us to go to war correct oh yeah i mean the the the
people they have on as pundits are like people who are like directly had a hand in you know
negotiating with the soviet union and how to like change their economy are from like think tanks
that have had a huge hand in like steering the policy of many other administrations you're like
well hold on hold on hold on hold on hold. These people like have a like serious bone to pick with the like with Russia. And that's
all they see. And I get that, like, you know, they're in a moment where on paper, most people
don't like the idea. They're like, well, yeah, why is this sovereign nations borders being breached
like this and being invaded? That's not good. But on the other side of it, too,
you know, whether or not the U.S. is fighting with physical bodies in Ukraine is still feeds
the military industrial complex in the form of military aid. Right. Which means here are some
explosives, here are weapons systems that still kind of keeps that machine going. And yeah,
there there isn't there aren't many people who are saying, like, we need to figure out how to
avoid at every cost having like blood being spilt in Ukraine, because again, it's the
people there that are going to suffer dearly.
And that's like that emphasis is not really present, except until the actual war begins.
And then they will try and use like images of people being harmed and things to try and increase the saber rattle.
Right. Yeah. There are some wild details just from, you know, people on the ground.
Like the journalists Jake Hanrahan was interviewing, you know, woke up, I guess it was Thursday morning, Kiev time and like
heard explosions, was like looking online, was like, no, this can't be true. Like opened his
window and he could see the highway and it was just like jam packed with people fleeing the city
and had to take a Uber to a safer location, like with his family like but like fleeing to the countryside
and an uber is a pretty wild like image and then he jake had also talked to he had been in ukraine
four days ago and was uh you know working with militia members documenting what they were going
through and how they were preparing and he was speaking to somebody who they you know, working with militia members, documenting what they were going through and
how they were preparing. And he was speaking to somebody who they, you know, they're obviously
outnumbered, but he was talking to a militia member who's in a taxi with a gun, like going
to fight, like just being in a taxi, like on the, on the way to a battle. But yeah, I, the other
detail that kind of came out more in the robert evans conversation
which is in uh on his daily show it could happen here is he like how politically monolithic
ukraine is which they they're like a socialist nation by constitution because there's like a
lot of conversations coming up about like russia like they're Nazis and then people pointing out like actually there are more Nazis on the like pro-Russia kind of right wing side of this battle.
They are compared to it's hard for somebody in the U.S. to wrap their mind around how like politically monolithic they are as a country.
Like their political their elections become more personality contests because they all basically are like, yeah, no, we're a socialist country.
We believe in the same policies. Yeah, the same policies, similar policies.
Yeah. So that's how you get a comedian to be right.
That's how you get Ukrainian Jon Stewart to be their president.
I mean, kind of same here, you know?
Pretty monolithic in that no one wants to help anybody.
Yeah, there are some things we can all agree on.
Yeah, don't fucking help nobody. All right, now you can have this TV star or this spooky mummy.
Which do you like? oh fuck but yeah it's it's also like this is kicking off so many different things right because a lot of people say where are the people of russia
and based on what you're seeing on the internet reports there are a lot of anti-war protests
like popping up in russia which is would come at a tremendous cost to those people because putin is
since navalny was arrested and even beyond like dissent isn't treated there kindly yeah for
decades like this is what you prepare this is why you kill people who criticize your you know if you
have long-term plans to do some shit like this, that is going to be wildly unpopular with people like that's that.
Now all that shit starts making sense that he's a murderous authoritarian dictator, like really helps him do whatever the fuck he wants, I guess.
But you have Russian pop stars, Russian movie stars, people speaking out against not critic, not being directly critical.
But a lot of the Russian, as you being directly critical, but a lot of the
Russian, as you said earlier, Miles, a lot of the Russian people are against this. This is really
about one group of men who are insistent on this power move. But I do like the way you framed it,
Miles. Putin's not crazy for not wanting NATO and nuclear stuff to be right next to his country. If someone
tried to put nuclear warheads and stuff at the borders of our country, we would be upset as well,
right? Yeah, right. And I think people also aren't really looking at the history of like NATO and
NATO expansion, because again, from his perspective, he's like, oh yeah, they, they, they all ganged up together to, to kind of be an oppositional force at the end of World War II to be like, okay, this is part of the Marshall plan. We have to stop the spread of communism. Part of that is to create this organization. So there, it's like this manifestation of a, like a group of countries that are sort of diametrically opposed to you.
a like a group of countries that are sort of diametrically opposed to you.
So when you already have that, you know, under that's what's bubbling under the surface, like, OK, maybe we can get this country in and we'll get this country.
And they're like, they're trying to pull up.
And that's something that they don't like.
But again, the part of that, too, is like, you know, I think the the way we look at a
lot of peacekeeping missions that we've gone these excursions before we'll
have like sort of the optics of like helping a group of people but it's always at an like a
larger aim of like western capitalist powers like it's never a purely peacekeeping thing it's all
about expansion of empire whether but it's whose empire and now you're getting to the point where
they're butting up against each other.
And Ukraine has been, unfortunately,
like a country that's just been caught in this tug of war over NATO expansion.
And now it's unfortunately finding itself
to be experiencing all the violent fallout from that.
Yeah.
It's important, I think, to keep in mind,
I don't know if
people saw that documentary, Winter on Fire. We've talked about it before. Evans actually went and
interviewed a bunch of the people who were involved in the, like, auto maiden thing. But
like, this is where in 2013, I think, there was a pro-Russia government-backed Ukraine away from the West and economic progress and, like, independence.
And, like, the people of the city, like, formed an impromptu, like, military fort out of snow and, like, loose panels and scaffolding and shit.
loose panels and scaffolding and shit they like just build a snow fort in the middle of the city and like use taxis and personal vehicles to create a cavalry and like fought and died until their
president left office so i do think like there's and then having since that time been at the center
of this like slow boil to war you know it's awful that it's it's come to this but i it feels like
this is the sort of thing they've been preparing for for for a while so i don't know yeah i mean
we'll see what happens i mean i i think most people looking at are just horrified like oh
yeah is there a way for it to end? And it, you know,
from like what even the president says of,
of like what they're looking at militarily or like what Russia is doing.
They're like,
it looks like they're just trying to decapitate the Capitol to try and,
you know,
get,
get a surrender.
Yep.
And,
and see where they go from there.
Now,
how,
you know,
what that, what that process ends up looking like,
I mean, who knows?
And how long this goes for, who knows?
Because I think at the end, there's just so many moving parts.
It's really just like one of those things,
like I don't even know what the fuck to say
because there are so many things up in the air.
The Ukrainian government said that the Russian forces
had basically taken over control of the old Chernobyl reactor.
And there are a lot of nuclear power plants in the country like what happens with an errant
airstrike and are is there going to be nuclear fallout is there going to be you know there's so
many fucking layers to this but i think the most important thing is that people are in solidarity
with the people of ukraine yeah and are able to accept the the
refugee inevitable refugees that are going to be looking to settle somewhere so yeah yeah europe's
usually pretty good about that so we should be good there i mean nowhere is really good about
it to be honest well i mean yeah some countries have been pretty quick like you know the like
ireland was like hey just there's no questions asked.
Come through.
Other countries, too, have just said, please, just we get it.
That's what's going to happen.
Yeah.
But, you know, I think there are always varying degrees of empathy when you look at a global crisis based on what the people involved in it look like.
Yeah. And I think that's why it's really important to also keep in mind that like, while this is happening, there are many other places where the U.S. is currently having a hand in the destruction of people's lives, too. And it's an absurd notion to think that like there's any sort of righteous leg to stand on when talking about human rights. But all that to say, that doesn't dissuade from the fact that the people of Ukraine are suffering. And that's just awful.
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Talking!
We came so close to the actual daily zeitgeist transition that CNN did today.
It's like a viral tweet where they were showing
like kiev and like all like these air raid sirens going off and like it was just like a static shot
just to kind of like sort of let people sonically understand like what the vibe is and then they
they do a hard cut to a fucking applebee's commercial and you're like oh dude work on a better way to sell fucking beer and chicken but
yeah hey man but that applebee's commercial is it the one that appropriated the cheers song
um have you oh you you didn't watch the super bowl or maybe i don't even think that was the
super bowl actually but there's a there's an Applebee's commercial that creates a universe in which Applebee's is the place where your community goes to hang out with one another and everybody knows each other.
of a weird world where Applebee's won the corporate fast food wars instead of Taco Bell,
which is, as we know from Demolition Man, what's going to inevitably happen.
One time I was in New York like 20 years ago, and I lost my phone or something like that,
and some lady found it, and they said, meet me at this McDonald's, at some McDonald's in Brooklyn.
And I went to that McDonald's's and the whole neighborhood was there.
There was like a neighborhood of like old black men playing cards and kids and families.
And I was like, this is what it's all about.
So to me, when I think of that, I do think there are some place cities where Applebee's is the place.
If you recall on Friday Night Lights, they met at Applebee's all the place. If you recall on Friday Night Lights,
they met at Applebee's all the time for like a discreet meetings.
So I do think there are some cities
that value their Applebee's.
Yeah, that was definitely true of my group of friends
in like freshman year of,
and sophomore year of high school
that we would go to the Applebee's down in Kentucky
and magically we would never have enough money.
It was truly like a reverse Jesus miracle
where it was like everybody would put in a certain amount
and then you would count it up at the end
and we would not have enough.
We used to go to Applebee's late night too.
They had a pretty good happy hour.
And I just don't remember how bad we tipped them, those poor Applebee workers.
Oh, man.
As high schoolers, it must have been pretty bad.
Yeah.
Right.
We could still go in the back and use the cigarette machine to buy cigarettes.
Oh, yeah.
So that was that era.
That might still be true in Kentucky Appleucky applebee's i don't know
all right so lauren lauren order is back i i don't know i think this is like a good case study
and why our culture is like littered with reboots and retooling the the story is that like dick
wolf has been basically since it was canceled in 2010 trying to get it like rebooted or like just started up again
and no one bought it until now but like that the reason that he's able to spend 10 years shopping
this same show is that he is the creator of law and order so he has clout and money to burn and
can just kind of keep sitting on it whereas most shows just get a single look basically and then
there's also the fact that you know uh jm in this piece points out that like that it seems like
nbc and like network tv is trying to just bring the 90s back like fully the or at least
NBC's 90s lineup there's Law and Order the recent Peacock reboot of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
NBC just announced their reboot in Quantum Leap ABC is bringing back NBC's LA Law LA Law yeah
Quantum Leap I can kind of half wrap my head around i'm on board
for quantum leap that feels like a premise that was a solid b when they when they did it but could
could be like a a plus like sci-fi if you nail it sure man but la law man fuck it bring who was even
in fucking la law that's one that like i never i think i was just
a little too young old man hernandez what do you got uh what's his name corbin something
corbin burnson yeah he was on la law damn you old man quantum leap was good i remember you
could watch that with the family so that's like a good family show right and then of course i
don't know if you remember the final episode where he meets god do you guys remember that no i never watched it to like the
point where i was fully on board with all the lore or at least i knew how it ended i was like oh that
show's on the last couple seasons started kind of going a little crazy they started making these
movies i think he was a lee harvey oswald at one point point that they did like a two hour one of those.
But then he finally still shoots JFK and shoots Jackie.
Takes them both out.
Yeah.
Right after he shoots Jackie in the head, he goes, oh, boy, it was really great.
Oh, boy.
Was that his catchphrase?
Oh, boy.
He would whenever he would hop in at the end of an episode he would
hop into the new thing and he would like you know he would be in a crazy situation he'd go oh boy
and then it'd be like oh boy oh boy top tier whoops yeah yeah oh just la law had they apparently
had a like one of those roles of like launching a ton of careers kind of how like you people like
law and order you'll see like so many people been in law and order la law it seems like the same thing as
don cheadle jeffrey tambor david schwimmer james avery shout out uncle phil cch pounder kevin
never mind carrie ann moss william h macy there's been a lot of uh the spaceman what's he been up to? I sat down and asked me again.
Yeah.
I mean, and that one feels even more impressive because like, I feel like Law and Order gets away with like being named as like launching all these things because they have 40 different guest stars in every episode.
So like everybody's been in that.
I've been in a couple episodes of Law and Order, you know? And I'd believe
that. Like anyone
who comes from New York and says,
hey, I was actually in an episode of Law and Order. I'm like,
there's a very high probability
that you were, even if you were like a dead
body. There are a couple,
actually, there are a couple episodes
that are about me, but they don't know
they're about me. So we'll just leave it at that.
Okay. I've only seen one episode of the svu uh i was at my mechanic's i was getting an oil change
and i just couldn't believe how much they bring up rape they just bring it up all the time i know
that's what the show's about right i i see saying that word like 20 times in an hour i was just like
i cannot believe how much people
love this show yeah right that almost became a meme right of like iced tea talking about rape
i feel like that was like like there's almost like a super cut of him saying you're like it's
something about him saying it and talking about it in the way that tv characters do
where you know have to be where the writer has to like feel like they've done something clever
and so like there's like well let's put a button on this description of the horrific act that he's
just witnessed but anyways the the other thing like i i've heard big claims made about like
culture ended in the 90s and everything since is just recycled.
But seeing this story makes me think more that it's just that
the way that the culture is going, there are so many more.
And now there are a thousand places to watch something
as opposed to 40 major cable channels and the only way for them to
consolidate all those audiences again is by giving them the stuff they once loved or at least watched
because it was the only option like it just like that that's kind of obvious but i've just heard
more and more people being like the 90s was the end of culture and the peak of culture and every everything since then it's like no it was just that like that was a time when we had fewer options
and it's a numbers game yeah and also as someone who wasn't even alive in the 90s they'd they'd be
like now culture started in some other time i don't know it's a it's a weird thing to say like
unequivocally but i don't know i mean i think my 90s nostalgia or the reason I look back at it or even regress with the shit that I watch is mostly it's escapism.
Because I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I literally didn't know how complex shit was back then.
And this reminds me of that mindset.
And, you know, a lot of people, as as we we like to turn to tv and these things
to be compelled and for it to be thought provoked i think most people do watch it because they want
the comfort that comes with uh with just being reassured and so a reboot stuff like this it
makes complete sense that they're they're betting that people just want to forget about this fucking
pandemic and uh war and a terrible economy and all this bullshit.
Yeah.
Back when I could like the cops on TV.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
I was just going to say, on the other hand, reasons why they might not like it is it's just another cop show.
And apparently the first episode, in order to address the fact that people have found out that cops are often really awful pieces of shit.
The cop partners don't get along anymore.
Oh.
Yeah.
Why?
Anthony Anderson is like, I'm glad that there are cell phones with cameras because it encourages police accountability.
cell phones with cameras because it encourages police accountability and his partner and this is a quote says i speak my mind probably about things i shouldn't speak my mind about but it's
just how i'm wired oh fuck off yeah the new one did that too where that that that guy who came
back i forget his name he's the one that all all the girls. He's older. He's bald, kind of buff. He was also in that.
Maloney?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He, like, apologizes for his sins.
So part of these new cop shows is they try to, like, acknowledge the ways in which cops have been bad in the past so that you can see that, oh, you know, they really are trying to be rehabilitated or they're trying.
There really are good cops still.
The only good cop is a fat Anthony Anderson.
So unless he puts on weight, unless he puts on the old Anthony Anderson weight, I don't need him in his huge head and his thin body.
Did he drop a bunch of weight?
Yes.
It's just he's just this thin body and this huge head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Miss the old Anthony.
Just this thin body and this huge head.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Miss the old Anthony, huh? Another way they're trying to be relevant to 2022 is giving us a mystery to solve involving the murder of Bill Cosby.
It's not like literally Bill Cosby.
It's Gil Crosby.
I think the name is, let me see here.
Oh, Henry King, an incomprehensibly famous singer accused of raping dozens of women.
And so he's found murdered.
He gets out of prison on a technicality.
Okay.
Similar to Cosby.
And then is murdered.
And Anthony Anderson closes the cold open by saying, and this is, again, a direct quote,
every victim deserves respect respect even the ones that
raped 40 women wow that's how that's how they end the cold open they just both sides that shit
don't even say that like oh wow all right long order what happens they catch them they catch Like, oh, wow. All right, Law and Order. What happens?
They catch him?
They catch whoever did it?
It sounds like they're both sides in it.
I agree with you, Miles.
But also, I think they're kind of encouraging someone to murder Bill Cosby.
So you can look at it like that, too.
Hey, we'll still look into the crime, but it would be a lot easier to wrestle with this shit if he was just, you know, I don't know.
Not here anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't I don't know what happens.
So that's the thing.
And that's always the thing with law and order.
We'll never spoil that.
Yeah.
We'll never spoil an episode of Law and Order.
It's never clear if they're going to catch the bad guy or who the bad guy is or how many bartenders they're going to have to interview
while wiping it while they're wiping down the bar slide number 20 yeah maybe i saw him yeah i was
just about to do realize i just about to do john mulaney's bit on law and order so i'll just stop
but if you haven't seen john mulaney's bit on the the busyness of these people who are being interviewed by
homicide detectives and can't stop doing their job can't stop unloading the truck
while they're being interviewed uh worth checking out I mean it's a commentary on capitalism it's
like the worker this worker can't even stop to help a fellow slain human being because they gotta
they gotta get these tv TVs unloaded, pal.
I'm sorry, man.
Hey, I got to take my break.
Came that close to cracking the case.
Yeah.
Well, Steve, such a pleasure having you on TDZ.
Great hanging with you, fellas.
Yeah.
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So that's really fun if you are a former person that grew up in the church.
If not, I don't see why you would have any interest in the Bible.
That's me.
I think the latest episode was called sodomy stuff or just sodomy
exclamation point yeah a lot of people we actually are in we're covering uh the sodom and gomorrah
stuff so a lot of people don't know that story it's a pretty insane story and a lot of christians
point to that as an anti why why homosexuality is bad but it's really just guys being guys
but we get into that in the newest episode so yeah check that out yeah don't be lots of wife
y'all yeah is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying uh yeah i love
this diego lopez i don't know if you guys have had him on the show yet he's a really funny comedian
out of new york he has a podcast called a little time podcast with mike abushi but he's uh he's so funny and uh this one as a
guy i really like this one but he did this last week yes i'm polly polly gonna cry during paddington
three that's amazing uh but yeah check out the uh this diego lopez he's really funny he's a great follower
yeah paddington three there's like apparently it's happening so that's that's exciting for
my kids and caitlin duranté and film lovers everywhere but absolutely paddington three
should uh cast caitlin duranté and in a role miles where can people find you follow you but absolutely Paddington 3 should cast Caitlin Durante
in a role
Miles where can people find you follow you
find me on Twitter and Instagram
at miles of gray and then also
420 day fiance the other pod
with Sophia Alexandra
talking 90 day and many
reality TV
just trash heaps that we'd love to feast on
some tweets I like first one is from refurbished Hoochie at The Husky tweeted, Classmate, I got six kids and
six dogs.
Me, not muted.
I know it smells crazy in there.
That's great.
And the other one is from Slick atlicj tweeted before my son got glasses we
were at something where a guy was speaking and my son asked if it was normal that the
guy speaking looked blurry and i said yes that guy is just a blurry guy
you know i have that resonates with me oh yeah because your kid has glasses has glasses we're
having to do so back in my day you just patched the damn eye that uh you could see out of to
help strengthen the one that was bad and now they have like eye drops that just keep that eye like
your good eye blurry for like a whole week.
So we're just, we're starting to deal with that.
Wait, that's, oh, but that was a real way you could treat it.
Cause I remember seeing like mad,
like you always see kids with eye patches.
Yeah.
Oh, was that kid in a, like a champagne uncorking accident?
Yeah, it's kind of wild.
Like the way that eye laziness or lazy eyes,
and I kind of have one that drifts a little bit
every once in a while,
but like the way it happens is one of your eyes becomes like so so much better than the other one
that your brain is just like nah fuck the fuck the bad and like just kind of turns it off and
and you stop relying on it and then that's when it just like stops really working and so you know
we're that's what we're we're dealing with is he
has bad vision of one eye so we're trying to get the the bad eye strong again i don't want to get
bogged down in the details i know we're still recording but so can he see fine through the the
eye after you put the drops in no so we know it's fucked up so so the patch goes over the good eye that's the thing
is oh and and so the blurriness goes in his good eyes so that he doesn't rely on that so he can't
see shit period and then the idea is that like now both of his eyes are blurry it really sucks
the idea is like you got to put ankle weights on that week. Exactly. That's exactly what it is.
Okay.
And then it'll be,
you have a 50 inch vertical.
Okay.
Put ankle weights on the,
your weak leg and eventually it'll,
it'll pick up.
And also you can't use your good leg.
It's fucked up.
It's fucked up.
Anyways.
Uh,
you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore.
Oh,
Brian tweets. I've been enjoying petty religion tweeted. you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien
tweets I've been enjoying
petty religion
tweeted I'd be a terrible therapist
because I'd want you to show me a pic of the guy
you keep crying about
that just has to be the hardest thing for a therapist
not to be like alright let me see
what are we talking about
or at least not like go Instagram
stalk the person you're
to try and like figure out
it's like it's always it would always be sad it's always just some improver or something like this
would that change the advice you give them you know and then soren buoy tweeted imagine
actually killing two birds with one stone it would would ruin friendships. You'd tell that story so often.
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as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy so uh just want to shout out uh we've we've done some thundercat stuff on here but there
is a thundercat song that i like because as someone who's black and japanese the idea of a
dragon ball do rag appeals to me if only i had the hair to necessitate the wave cap but uh this track
is called dragon ball do rag by uh thundercat and again if you don't know
about thundercat really fantastic bass player drummer was is also his drummer his brother
also a phenomenal drummer and back in the day when they were at fairfax high school they used to be
like the most feared like jazz ensemble in a school ever where you had basically people who
were like professional level musicians in high school uh So much respect to Thundercat, but this is Dragon Ball Do-Rag by Thundercat.
Was there competitive jazz out here?
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Fairfax High School had like one of the best jazz programs, hands down.
And you'd be like, dude, the Bruner Brothers, because he's called Corey Bruner,
and his brother's Ron Bruner Jr.
And it was like, it was like,
you almost,
there was no point in competing if they were there.
Cause you're like,
they're going to fucking just blow everyone out.
And you know,
you kind of like seeing that kind of stuff when you're younger.
Yeah.
I thought the all Valley karate tournament was farfetched,
but yeah,
but for jazz,
jazz showdown.
Yeah.
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