The Daily Zeitgeist - Was The Riddler A Barista? Wack Cupcake Hack 3.25.22

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

In episode 1212, Jack and Miles are joined by comedians and hosts of Truth Hounds, Kyle Mizono and Anna Seregina to discuss… Cupcake Eating Hack, Rachel Zegler Is Presenting At The Oscars - Wha...t Actually Happened Here? and more! Cupcake Eating Hack Rachel Zegler Is Presenting At The Oscars - What Actually Happened Here? Follow: @truthhounds @cashmoneygrandpa @jylemizono LISTEN: Red Room (Nick Hakim Remix) by Hiatus KaiyoteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
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Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 229, episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. It's the season finale, long awaited. Everybody's wondering, what's the twist going to be? Well, I'll tell you what the twist is going to be. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is friday march 25th 2022 which of course means it is national lobster newberg day i don't even know what that is yeah do you mom it's like a thing that i feel like again sounds like an old dish but right uh
Starting point is 00:02:39 it's includes lobster butter cream cogn eggs, and cayenne pepper. Okay. So it's like Rockefeller. Newberg was like a rich person back then, like the way they did it. Apparently, it starts from Delmonico's, and some guy named Captain Wenberg said he invented it. And then they got the first part of his name backwards? I think that's maybe how they're fucking with him. They're like, all right, yeah, Newberg thought it up, not Wenberg.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Old Newberg. Yeah. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. It lifts the oxidative burden at the cellular level. That is courtesy of Christy yamaguchi main a little wheel in the sky by journey aka based on one of the products in the oscar swag bag uh that we covered on trending earlier this week that promised to lift the oxidative burden at the cellular level
Starting point is 00:03:41 i believe it was i gotta put on your skin was it gold flecked avocado oil is that I believe it was. That's what I got to put on your skin. Was it Goldflex avocado oil? I think it was. It was some weird thing that I'll never encounter in my life. But yeah, that sounds about right. Anyway, shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Main. Christy! God bless you. And the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Keep that. The big night. Yeah, definitely keep that. That was our guest. The Oscars are this weekend. So we just want to wish everybody involved luck. It's Hollywood's big night. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 The stars have come out. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. My dad says eat acidophilus. Drink acidophilus. says eat acidophilus. Drink acidophilus. Boof acidophilus. Shoot acidophilus. Smoke acidophilus. Snort acidophilus.
Starting point is 00:04:33 He says it's good for your heart. Okay. Shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Main there, too, to the tune of personality. Because we're talking about acidophilus yesterday and my father's love for acidophilus supplements and also baritone day uh his mother's love for acidophilus supplements so if you were a child of acidophilus you know do a shot in honor children of acidophilus yeah shout out to acidophilus probably the most times that word has been said on a episode of anything yeah the tdz breaking records these last two days yeah anyways miles enough enough bullshit we are joined by two very funny comedians whose work has appeared on lesser shows like this american life
Starting point is 00:05:21 drew barrymore show and you know whatever are, most importantly, the lead investigators and hosts of the show Truth Hounds, which is one of the best things our network has ever created. Yeah. In which they look into everyday mystery. Season one, they asked, why are some people mean? They asked, why does time fly when you're having fun? Season two is about to drop and unlock the truth behind human behavior such as fear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Why we can't look away. Among other things, please welcome the hilarious and talented Kyle Mazzano and Anna Saragino! Hello! Hello. Hey. Sorry about my sneeze. I was going to go, you'll never know which one of us sneezed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's something about audio. Shoot. Yeah, I shouldn't have taken. But what if I'm tired? Yeah. Yeah, you don't know who is who here. We're not being investigated. I am going to have to investigate something.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Kyle, you have a MLS jersey on. And I was like, oh, you like NYCFC? You a big MLS fan? MLS is Major League Soccer, New York City Football Club. There it is. All right. Just for the non-soccer heads. Yeah, and I was like, oh, what's a soccer head?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah, and I said, what are you talking about, Miles? I actually have no idea what you're referring to. And then I looked at my own shirt and go, oh. Sometimes the truth is in your own shirt. Yeah. Right. It's important to keep in mind. But the shirt I got because I was at the Rose Bowl flea market.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And you know how that's a huge, huge market. But I happened to see someone, a comedian that I know, who had a stand and was selling his own clothes at the flea market. And I thought I'd throw him a bone. No, okay, that's not how I want it. That's mean. You're also making it sound like he's selling his own clothes. Like he's like peddling the last of his wear.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, like off his back. No, no, no, no, no. Kyle, you want this shirt? No, no. Off his back. Also like the flea market to people who aren't from LA. Like, I don't know. It's massive. Also, like the flea market to people who aren't from L.A. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It's like a big, big, one of the best flea markets in the world. It's huge. As well as an event. The who's who's or what's what's are all at this event. I mean, I love going. I put my headphones on and then I just go for it. Yeah. But so I saw him and then he sold me. I picked up a jersey.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I wasn't throwing him a bone. I wanted the jersey, but I thought it was interesting. I know this man. He did not give me a discount. Oh. And then he did put the $20 directly into his wallet.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So damn. I mean, a flea market like you need like that. There's no you're not like i'd love to give you a discount but my boss you know at a flea market you're you're the boss you made that shirt with your hands like you need your you need to give your discount wait but i like that you you take issue with the fact that he put in his wallet, you want there to be an intermediary step of like a, you want the illusion of a cash register. A cash box, a cash register. You want a buffer.
Starting point is 00:08:30 A banker. A banker, wow. Oh, would that make it? A bookie over his shoulder, just cracking his knuckles. Like a green accountant visor. Some manner of pit boss. Right. I guess maybe that helps too,
Starting point is 00:08:47 because you didn't even get hooked up with like a homie discount. And then you're like, and that's just going in your wallet. I feel like that would soften the blow. Like, no, I'm not, I'm not really giving discounts on this.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And then the money like went into like a cash, like, you know, envelope or something, some kind of, yeah, that would feel a little more formal around. And then like,
Starting point is 00:09:04 all right, thanks sucker. Yoink. Alternate perspective. envelope or something. That would feel a little more formal. Alright, thanks sucker. Alternate perspective, that jersey is great and looks like it cost way more than $20. I do agree. That's $70 retail right there. You got a discount by
Starting point is 00:09:19 him not charging enough because they do a bad job at capitalism. That that would be my just one note on their behalf and that's the biggest own someone can you suck at capitalism wow yeah i mean even the leaf blower piped in he goes i think that's a good deal for that one second we have a guy who's not even he's works next door but he we just turned around and he's like on my side. And it's like, what are you doing over here? He's blowing your leaves.
Starting point is 00:09:51 He's blowing my leaves. Gotta test out the equipment. I want what she has. Yeah. Right. What are you doing over here? He's just hanging out. He wants to be on the pod.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He's in your kitchen, it would appear. Yeah. He's asking for his jersey back. Yeah, exactly. All right, Kyle and Anna, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about a cupcake eating hack that has taken the world by storm and is causing lots of controversy in my personal life we're going to talk about rachel ziegler she's now presenting at the oscars we we talked about how she wasn't even invited she's gonna have to stay home because she wrote
Starting point is 00:10:38 about that on instagram so we're gonna talk a little bit more about that what's what's the story there back she's back huh she's back, huh? She's back. Okay. And I think there was more to the story than we might have at first intuited based on her Instagram post saying, I'm going to be watching from my couch. A.K.A. She was going to be watching from a couch in London where she is shooting
Starting point is 00:11:00 a massive live action Snow White. She is starring in a-action Snow White, and going to the Oscars is requiring that entire production to grind to a halt. That said, I'm still on her side on this. So we'll get to all that shit, plenty more. But before we get to any of it, Kyle, Anna, we love to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, damn. Wait, I had a good one.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Okay. It's locked and loaded. Okay, I'll buy you two seconds. I'm going to step in right here. Damn. I feel like the last time I was on this show, I said the same damn thing. But I think the truth is i i love dogs and so my google search was uh about my dog yet again and i said why is my dog hiding under the bed and acting odd
Starting point is 00:11:56 because he was doing that and acting a bit weird last night is he sick you know what that's actually what the search results implied that maybe he was doing that and acting a bit weird last night. Is he sick? You know what? That's actually what the search results implied that maybe he was sick, but I think he actually is okay. Or maybe it's the heat. That's maybe the thought. Under the bed is probably
Starting point is 00:12:18 a pretty cool place. I don't know from experience. I don't spend a lot of my time at home hiding under the bed from my family. Well, you're not hiding because you're just kicking it at a really cool place. Yeah. As you guys said. No, I'm not sick either.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Other than that, though, dog is fine? Yes, my dog is okay. Because, you know, the truth be told, I mean, they might as well get the truth out there. I like dogs, too. Okay. So I'm just making Okay. I was concerned. Yeah, yeah. Well, I want to come out on record as also saying I'm with dogs.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Okay. Great. Fair. I love dogs. I had no idea. I was on a podcast with a bunch of freaks today. Yeah. Dog lovers.
Starting point is 00:13:01 What the hell? Dog lovers? Too many dogs have broken Jack's heart. What is yours? You lovers? Too many dogs have brought you Jack's heart. What is yours? You did buy me time. That was all for you. Damn. I was not even prepared with my answer.
Starting point is 00:13:12 But I did it. I honestly could have brought something cooler to the table. No, you came in a pot, and I really appreciate it. You took a little time off. You burned her, Anna. You burned her. No, I didn't burn. I think she came out, and she was very graceful, actually, she saved the day in this kind of MVP way.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So the jersey kind of became her. You know what I mean? Damn. Okay, I'm pulling double duty with my Google searches here. So I got, why do things keep evolving into crabs? And this is a video that I have yet to press play on, full disclosure but but i keep going one of these days there's a full video wow why things keep evolving into crabs so that's that's on standby that's any moment now i might watch that video wait how did you hear about debate you have a video that you're
Starting point is 00:14:00 interested in that you've yet to watch yeah Yeah, I'm not pulling trigger on that. I identify with that. Because I want to know. Wait, you got a video in the hopper too, Jack, that you're just being like, not yet. Tons. Oh, yeah. I don't like that with movies.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Not like a YouTube clip. I'm like, yeah, let me see this. I got a video this morning of Rick Carlisle playing ping pong, Indiana Pacers coach, Rick Carlisle playing ping pong. He's just very good at it. It's not like a funny video that I had to watch immediately to lighten my mood, but I,
Starting point is 00:14:34 you know, I'm, I'm curious. I want to watch it, but I did not choose to invest the time. Right. Yeah. It's like where it's maybe where you want to be.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Right. Ideologically. Yeah. But you're just not there yet right by the way why do things keep evolving into crabs yeah i could i could talk about that for 50 minutes oh i love that shit well when the with that question it's like what do you what keeps evolving into crabs everything but what okay but like is it like what do you mean what's yeah what's the anyone else confused like a toenail can turn into a crab evolution keeps creating things that look like crabs in independent little part parts of the evolutionary chain it's like that design makes sense and therefore it just keeps creating crabs like on different branches that like aren't related it's not like what's a thing that turned into a crab yeah give me an example that i'm like
Starting point is 00:15:31 that ain't that's not that's not crap man yes give me an example of something that i go and i go that should be a crab yeah that's what i'm yeah you tell me that it's like oh my sure microphone turns into a crab right right i don't think that's happened yet. Okay. Billy Blanks from Taibo turned into a crab. I think the best way of explaining it, or the thing that made it make sense to me, is the fact that a bunch of marsupials in Australia independently evolved into things that look very similar to the animals in like north america the mammals in north america but they are completely different like branches of the evolutionary chain they just are because australia is like close enough to like what our environment
Starting point is 00:16:18 is like so we're still waiting for the operative sentence was like and then this dog evolved right it's not like a duck it's it's just saying it's on the way in like the evolutionary process that shit ends up at the crab station at some point the train like there's probably like eight different animals like all over the place that have evolved into crabs and then like become extinct or you know but like millions of years ago and so we just have all this like fossil all these fossil records of things that like ended up looking like crabs but have nothing to do with one another are not related to one another got it see i hear that and i go i gotta watch this video right yeah this is blowing my mind and then i can't bring myself to press
Starting point is 00:17:01 but this is how you could sound if you watched that video. Yeah, that sounds amazing. Very boring at a dinner party. No, but I go, you know, you know, it really turns into a crap is me when I don't have my lunch. That's right. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Write it back. Is that good?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh, my God. That's a great joke. Really good joke. I can show you very easily what turns into a crap. Okay. And I don't even know if i should reveal our sources because this is a potential investigation in the works maybe i mean i mean maybe talk about it in vague terms about how it's interesting i'll talk about it in vague terms yes and you guys actually
Starting point is 00:17:38 personally i think already know i haven't i haven't put this on blast kind of for the public but we share a name with an organization miles i don't know if you remember this we share this is when we're you're trying to get the instagram handle right yeah okay they and we so they are a actual organization humanitarian organization truth hounds that has recently been activated because they're based in Ukraine. Oh. And so they're like a humanitarian organization. Right. Which is great.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And so our Instagram got a brief bump. Oh, wow. Our Twitter got a brief bump. And all these journalists started following us and DMing us and being like, we would love to get in touch. And if you don't mind, we believe you're a great resource to the people. We have to softly backpedal and be like, no, no. I mean, we stand with you. But we are more like.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Why are people mean? why are people always late i just i love big shirts like we're not really who is beep macrame yeah who's beat macrame why are people mean you know putin probably didn't listen to that one i guess no exactly i mean so I think now we have to expand our search and go, why are people mean and hungry for war? Right. Episode season three. So that's that's what I was researching is what this organization stands for. Right. Right. Because before. Yeah. I remember you were like it. Truth Hounds is a thing, but like they haven't been active for like a couple of years or something. So you're like, I donounds is a thing, but they haven't been active for a couple years or something. So you're like, I don't think it's going to cause much
Starting point is 00:19:28 confusion. No. Who would have thunk? No one saw this coming. We weren't looking at the geopolitical dynamics of it all. So you let them keep the Instagram? You didn't reach out to them and say, hey, it looks like you're not using this.
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, we never touched base. base no it's just more than like there's another truth hounds by touching base did you at least reach out to them and say this we've redirected people on twitter who were seeking out right the actual group yeah i mean we we go and by the way again just we were voicing our support, but I think you're looking for this Twitter account. Just by the way. Yeah. I don't know what we can do. What is something that you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Oh, shoot. Okay. Will you buy me some time? I'll buy you some time. I got this. Okay. Check this out. Okay. I think confidence is overrated yes i think i think grow up and don't stop making me be a part of your story you know right i yesterday i was watching this
Starting point is 00:20:40 really confident 12 year old walk around and he was on facetime on just on speakerphone so much confidence not a care in the world i go be indoors with your confidence don't stop making me be a part of your narrative right right wait was this kid just like like acting like some like stockbroker just full blast speakerphone call full blast speakerphone he's making little plans he's making little 12 year old plans what kind of plans is okay do you can you expand oh i'll be there you know i think i can be there tomorrow night i gotta ask my mom he's doing little 12 year old business loud loud as the day is bright okay Okay. And I go, just tone it down. Okay. Humility.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Right, right, right. How would you, I mean, is it, do you say that because you feel that at a certain point that the confidence works against you? Or is it like, for me, I would probably see that and be like, damn, I wish I had that confidence. But then I'd be like, man, fuck that confidence. Yeah. I'm a little more of the latter of your examples. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Right. Fuck that confidence. Well, just don't involve me. the latter of your examples. Yes. Right. Well, just don't involve me. You know, why does it have to, if you're doing it in public, Oh, then we all have to celebrate you and go,
Starting point is 00:21:53 Oh, what a, what a gorgeous side of humanity, you know, leave me alone. Is that how the 12 year old, uh, confident 12 year old was involving.
Starting point is 00:22:01 He was just like, by me, by getting into your headspace and like kind of speaking loudly enough that like you couldn't ignore or did they like ask you to do them a favor and like go pick up something for them no no no no just just just really involved me in there you know it was in a public setting and then yeah and then other people looked and they go you know i mean they didn't say this but you could tell by their body language they're like that's so funny that he's so loud and so
Starting point is 00:22:29 confident his body or whatever right right i don't want to i don't need to see that is that a trait that lasts i wonder like do confident 12 year olds turn into like presidents and ceos or because like probably yeah yeah think about child actors I've had but then I've had like confident cousins who are like super gregarious and out there like they would go up to anyone like any stranger and strike up
Starting point is 00:22:56 a conversation and then in their adulthood are like completely like much more introverted deflated I don't know and maybe it was me being like man why don't you stop with that fucking confidence? Well, check this out. I hate confidence through time. It's not exclusive to 12-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:23:12 You're 30, you're confident? I don't need to see that. You're 50, you're confident? What are you doing? I agree. It's very presumptuous. It just like puts it automatically involves you energetically and whatever they've got going on yeah because they're taught speaking so loudly
Starting point is 00:23:32 like you can just be right like i still think about this like confident person that i was at a panera bread with like 20 years ago and like the conversation they were having because they were having it so loudly and it was so futile and it was not making the slightest impression on them like that they were failing at this conversation right exactly that's what i'm talking about just maybe you can be confident be quiet right right right you know you're quiet you're confident good for you confident body language right yes but yeah right what's wrong with just standing upright you know you're quiet you're confident good for you body language right yes but yeah right what's wrong with just standing upright you know good posture with good pods in be like exactly yes that's great with just a very like low tone voice feed planted women's march you know absolutely but
Starting point is 00:24:19 i'm just saying the tone you know the volume right. Yeah. And now that you're saying it, and Jack, you're talking about it, I think more than the confidence, I'm like, asshole, this place is not your fucking office. You know what I mean? I think that's the thing. It's more of the confidence. You're just like sonically
Starting point is 00:24:40 violating my tranquility space by being like, yeah, so don't worry, nobody's here right now. Nobody's here right now. And then looking me in my eyes. It's always Tony. It was a guy just saying, Tony, come on,
Starting point is 00:24:54 Tony, come on. Come on, Tony. That's the new Jeff Foxworthy special. Come on, Tony. Come on, Tony. Body language is, that's where it's at because that's impossible to fake i've been told my body language looks like i'm protecting
Starting point is 00:25:11 myself from like being stabbed in the heart or something so that's where it's at learn to have confident body language and that's the ticket that's the ticket kids take it from me you see it sounds like a in a body language. That's the ticket. That's the ticket, kids. Take it from me.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You see, it sounds like a buddy comedy where you're like, you know, like this, you're trying to give like a kid some more confidence. You're like, come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's the body language is where it's at. Come on, do some exercise with me. See this? Watch the Start Me Up video by the Rolling Stones. Look at the way
Starting point is 00:25:43 Mick Jagger's dancing. That's confidence. Yes, exactly. But keep in mind, I was just buying you time. Yeah. And we're going to take a quick break, actually, Kyle. And when we come back. Even more time.
Starting point is 00:25:57 More time. We're going to get the eagerly anticipated, overrated from you. We will be right back. anticipated, overrated from you. We will be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:28:23 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day,
Starting point is 00:28:34 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the
Starting point is 00:28:52 fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:30:05 apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts holy shit there's a lot of pressure on this overrated i don't know if you want to clear it real quick i love your i almost feel like i bought too much time no it's really good and i love what you're about to come in with, if it's what I think it is. Oh, God. And I back you up 100%. Okay, you got to back me up.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm right there with you. You got to my back. Okay. Justin, can you keep all of that after? You got to back me up. And we're back. And it is, of course, time. The moment you've all been waiting for.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Oh, gosh. Kyle, what is something that you think is overrated? Okay, I'm going to preface this by saying I don't know if it's going to create as much dialogue as Anna's did. This might just sort of end. We were buying you time. Yes, but I do appreciate everyone buying me so much time, including the break. Absolutely. What I think is overrated, I've given this much thought, it's latte art. And the reason for that is because me, I am a black coffee girl.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And also with latte art, it does disappear as soon as you drink it. So I don't know if I love that about it. Thank you so much. You're coming to my TED Talk. I'm right here. I was like repeating the word at the end of the Spelling Bee Challenge. Thank you. And that is what was overrated thank you so much i love i love this observation i think latte art is everywhere right now including and i called this out when we were talking about the batman
Starting point is 00:31:59 a couple uh weeks back but there's a moment in the trailer for the Batman when they do a, like the police come and arrest this serial killer looking dude at a coffee shop. They do a slow camera push in on his coffee cup and then come over the top of it and it's
Starting point is 00:32:19 latte art of a question mark. So the Riddler does latte art. Oh God. Oh, God. Which feels weird. Is that canon? Yeah, I don't think that's like, that would be one of the, I don't know, maybe, maybe so. The Riddler does just have a thing for question marks, but it just feels, where did they request
Starting point is 00:32:38 it? Or did he request it? So it's really not the Riddler's fault. He just. But that's also funny. The diner. He goes, could you just give me my regular? My question mark latte?
Starting point is 00:32:50 I come here every day for my question mark. Yeah. That's such a good observation. I just want to picture what led to that before. But okay, go ahead. Justin's losing his mind in the chat. He's like, he makes clues. That's what
Starting point is 00:33:05 the Riddler does he made it himself but everywhere he wait he made it himself so he works at the diner no I don't know look no no okay here we go well you gotta understand intervention intervention no he's sitting he loves to taunt people. Yes, he makes it himself. He's sitting there in the cafe waiting for people to arrest him because he knows they're coming for him. And it's another way to say, fuck you. It's leaving a calling card. It's supposed to be a dick move. He's not a genius.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But I'm saying, where did he make the question mark, though? No, he's just sitting there and he's sitting at the counter waiting. He knows they're coming to arrest him and he's just sitting there and he makes he's sitting at the counter waiting he's by he knows they're coming to arrest him he's just sitting at the counter i know i get that did he ask for a separate thing of steamed milk who made the latte art though you need to pour the steamed milk to make the latte from when they're coming up to him he's just sitting there making the art i don't i don't know he's just sitting there making yeah is he a barista he's got like he's got like a straw or a spoon or something i don't know i don't know how you make latte i've never i've never i think you have to be at the machine wait so justin i've never been behind the counter of a coffee machine i don't know i don't know okay i don't know how latte art is made i I've never had it requested. You're in over your head here.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I know. Clearly. People are like, you need intricate tools. You need to know there's a whole class you need to take. I don't know. I don't know this. He's just sitting there doodling and there's art in his cup. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Okay. So visually, we see him hunched over a cup and he is doing something with it. Yeah. I can't remember if there's like a spoon or a straw, but he's doing something with it. But he damn sure doesn't have it. You guys just asked if he did it himself. He didn't say how. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:34:49 He did, okay. That is true. And Kyle, and you're saying, this isn't going to cause much conversation. But look what the fuck happened. Our episode is over because of your overrated. This is all we're talking about for the rest of the... Yes, so look,
Starting point is 00:35:04 the Batman villains are constantly doing things that are impossible, like, offscreen. And you're like, okay. But, like, that is one of the sillier things to imagine. Like, the Joker's things are all like, how did he train a thousand people to, like, all do this if he's, like, an agent of chaos? Like, he's really good at
Starting point is 00:35:25 planning but the riddler doing little latte art is funny to me i feel like he had to google how to do latte art in order to pull that off right he probably he probably did he leaves gift cards for people for people in the film it's weird he's a weird guy he's not like okay yeah he's just like leaving stuff for people. That's his whole thing. It's not art. I'm him, right? I'm like, I'm going to practice leaving my clues in a variety of ways. I'm going to take up pottery
Starting point is 00:35:54 so I can leave a clay glazed question mark. I'm going to take up gardening so that I can plant plants that will eventually grow into a question mark. He's widening his toolkit. I his cross stitch. And Justin is saying that's not out of character. That's like,
Starting point is 00:36:08 it's not, there's a whole section where he leads Batman to a building where he's clearly choreographed. He went in there and spray painted. No spoilers. I'm just saying he's it's, there's a lot of stuff that happens where he just leaves clues where he clearly choreographed stuff and then just wait for people to find it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Like that's his funds his massive terror operation with an etsy shop where he has like put together all sorts of fine fine art like little sort of you know who else is green starbucks baristas that's true i just think latte art is a honed in skill as a former barista myself right just like you're not gonna pick it up you have to have kind of been at the front lines of espresso curation for quite some time it's not just you don't just pick it up is all i'm saying do you get when when you see overly ornate latte art and you receive it do you do you go, what a shame? Cause it's gone. Or you kind of like, I also know it's a lot of wrist technique, you know, to get, get the nice leaves and stuff, but.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And do you receive it? Do you make room for it? I don't think I've ever had the option of it. So maybe that's the problem here. Well, as if I got it, maybe my heart would change. Well, I got something to say. We're lattes all together. Okay, what do you have to say about it?
Starting point is 00:37:28 It's mostly milk. Hot milk. You're just hot milk with a kiss of espresso? What are you doing? What are we doing here? I think people get it for the art. Yeah, people want to be close to art. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I guess I just wonder, that's a really hard on those baristas out there who have to make, yeah, have to make these custom lattes. Yeah. Must be a real, you must do a very loud sigh when you get that. Really loud. Well, now they have this new kind of latte art where they like print. It's not a matter of wrist flicking they print. It's not a matter of wrist flicking. It's a picture.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I saw one where they're like, we will do a picture of Kim Kardashian on your latte for you. And I go, that's okay. I don't need that. No, thank you. Actually, I couldn't think of two things I want less. A latte art of Kim Kardashian and a bit to be of Kim.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I just wouldn't want a picture of Kim to disappear. But it's too much for me. You're all bummed out because your Kim K latte art dissolved and just melted into the drink. You're like, aw. It was just there 20 minutes ago. It was just there. What is something that you think is underrated? And then we will let you off the hook.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Wow. Wait, is this the one that you needed help with? You needed to buy? You need more time about? I need so much time because I actually I did come up with something, but then I forgot. OK, shoot. OK, I guess mine sucks. Mine's really not.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Mine's really nothing. And I mean, this is just going just gonna i'm gonna say this and you're gonna go i forgot what she just said okay go ahead or do you want me to go first yours is gonna be better so i'll just say mine no let's just get it over with okay and then we can move on uh underrated movies that are an hour and a half yeah Mm. Yeah. No, I mean, it's fine. I'm totally on board because movies these days are so long. Yeah, where do you get the sheer audacity?
Starting point is 00:39:31 You want three hours of my time? Yeah. Too much. When we break the 120-minute plane, I'm like, this is, what is this, an arthouse film? Like, what are we doing? Yeah. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You couldn't edit? I mean, it's just, you got to have the guy walking back and forth in three scenes. Yeah. You know. Look, I'm not saying anything controversial here. So, just, you know. No, I know people who, their entire personality is complaining that movies should all be 90 minutes. Is that me?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah, that was my backhanded way of saying it. Yeah, some fuckers come on here and their whole personality is about this. Oh my god. I didn't want to... Yeah, no, I think I agree with that to a large degree.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Alright, Kyle, bring the fucking heat. Here's my heat. Speak your heat. I'm going to a large degree. All right, Kyle, bring the fucking heat. Here's my heat. Speak your heat. I'm going to speak my heat. Okay, I think that, so to explain this a bit, is that I'm an addict and I used to chew Nicorette gum. And I used to chew a lot of it. I'm not proud of it, but I did finally get off. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:52 But now I chew about five packs of Orbit gum. Orbit? A day. Okay. Five. Because of this issue. Five. A really high amount.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Like easily over one pack of gum a day. Yes, it's pretty cuckoo bananas. High demand. Okay. You guys are making me feel bad. No, I'm really interested. Okay. I got my Trident right here, by the way.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Just showing support. I chew a ton of gum. I have an order of 12 packs of my favorite Trident flavor coming in the mail today. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. I got Orbit. And I'm also, I've been on nicotine cessation stuff longer than I was ever addicted to actual cigarettes or anything. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:44 The Nicorette really just made me feel like there was um there was rockets coming out of my shoes it just felt like so it was really hard to let go because as you can tell my energy i could use it um so um what is it's over under it's underrated our it's changed my life is orbit mega packs orbit orbit mega packs are actually two packs of orbit in the plastic right and they come in a cool case oh that yeah maybe that's it is plastic which is kind of negativo but it is a mega pack so it saves me the trip and i have two packs in one you know it's funny i i bought my i bought three mega packs at once when i went to cvs to get
Starting point is 00:42:32 my booster shot and like they're like you need to sit down for like 15 minutes while we like i'm like i don't want to sit here with these like people i'm gonna i'll stay in the store and i'm gonna walk around my first impulse buy i was, they got Orbit in this fucking fancy case. I bought three packs. So look, you're with people that understand you, Kyle. Thank you. You know what I mean? We're Orbit gang.
Starting point is 00:42:53 It looks pretty cool too. So there's a, there's a Wrigley gum called five gum that I can't vouch for, but I just had, this is the second time in a month that I've had somebody like be like, Hey, they've really fucking nailed gum right now, by the way. Like gum is gum has gotten good. The gum they were talking about was five gum also on a plastic case. So they, I think they've figured something out. Do it with the plastic case. Let's like normalize like Lucy's for gum.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yes. Like loose gum sticks. You know what I mean? Just like in a discount barrel by the register? The problem with loose gums, not to poke holes in your... The sanitary aspects of it? Well, they melt.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, sure, sure. I'm just thinking of a bodega. Let me get a loose cigarette out of a pack. You want a couple sticks out of here? Here you go. Fucking 10 cents. I can spare a couple sticks. Get wild. Get wild. Wait, so what's your, like, cadence to go through, blow through
Starting point is 00:43:54 packs of gum a day? Like, how long is one stick lasting you? I mean, probably I'm really not sticking with it long enough. I'm gonna guess She's saving it in a mountain Nah the flavor's dissipating
Starting point is 00:44:09 Well yeah Cause I talked to someone and they're like You know I could have a piece of gum For like a whole day So I don't know what you're doing I've done that and By the end of the day you are just eating a pencil eraser Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:23 Like you fully chewed all the like Neoxins, fake sweetener out of it. And you are just chewing like a wad. But I totally base my gum decisions on how long the flavor lasts. And Trident, straight up peppermint and Trident pineapple are my two picks. Pineapple. I didn't even know that was an option i know development i'm deep in the game i can't get out what you chew gum so what is your gum chewing situation me how many sticks yeah what are your stats what are your stats what numbers you putting up there i mean i the 12 packs of my of the pineapple twist trident is not like that that this is not a first like i probably go through one of those every like month month and
Starting point is 00:45:14 a half so pack a month pack a month yeah oh so that's 12 packs a year okay that seems like too much right maybe i can't even process what she's hearing at the moment like one pack for one pack that's not even no that's one gum a day that seems low sorry it's a 12 it's a box with 12 packs in it oh you go through the box oh you go through a 12 pack a month a 12 pack i think that think that's probably a little aggressive, but we're on a monthly cadence of some sort, like maybe every month or two months. Yeah, I thought you were saying... You're trying to enter the
Starting point is 00:45:51 conversational ring by being like, yeah, I go through a pack of gum a month. Hey, I feel you on that. You're saying you're just like me? What are you saying? You're like, we are not the same. You're not like me? I relate to you?
Starting point is 00:46:09 No, you don't relate to me. You don't think you like me. One pack a month? You even know? Yeah, sometimes I'll even chew two pieces of gum in a day. It's crazy. I do. One weird thing I do is I go half a piece at a time.
Starting point is 00:46:32 A little half. That makes it last a little longer, and I also don't need a big wad in my mouth. Like, you know, that's not. I think you're carrying the trunk. The remains of the half. The stub, yeah. Yeah. It's hard to call it a trunk. It just sits down below the little remains of the half? The stub, yeah. It's hard to call it a trunk.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It just sits down below the little ledge of the gump. And it's probably filled with gross dirt and pocket litter. Wow. It makes you stronger. Whatever. Exactly. I want as much plastic in my bloodstream as possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You got it. You're referencing that thing about microplastics. It's like 90% of adults have microplastics in their blood or something. Yeah. All right. Well, this was a great, arousing round of overrated, underrated search history. I hate what I said. I know.
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Starting point is 00:51:33 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's time to get to yet another life hack. It seems like it makes life more difficult, but it does get people to be like, oh, they know a life hack. Yeah. So this is Cupcake Eating Hack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Hit us, Miles, because this comes from eyewitness testimony. Okay, so a couple weeks ago I was at a birthday party for a friend, and someone made cupcakes, and they came out. One of the guests very confidently just tore the fucking thing in half and inverted it on itself. So tore it in half like the cake was torn in half along its equator. Yes. Like around the, right? It's not torn in half, like, along its equator. Yes. Like, around the...
Starting point is 00:52:25 So... Right. It's not torn in half, like, down the middle. No, no, no. It's like you rip the top off or the base of the cupcake off and then just flip it over and smush the frosting on top so it's like a sandwich. So the bottom of the cake is the top of the sandwich, the icing is the middle, and then, like, a rumpled top half of the cake is now the bottom of the cake is the top of the sandwich. The icing is the middle. And then like a rumpled top half of the cake is now the bottom of the cupcake.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. And I was like, okay. And they were like, yeah, it's like, there's like, you don't need, this is like the way to eat cupcakes. And I was like, no. And then on the takeout, the food blog we love so much on the show, they posted a thing about Anne Hathaway was like on Ellen or some talk show. they posted a thing about anne hathaway was like on ellen or some talk show and also being like this is how you eat a cupcake ripping it in half inverting it on itself and it's like it's so clean and it's so neat and i i'm just i don't like this is not genius to me it and i will say this the person who i saw doing demonstrating the hack they had cake all over them so i completely missed the part where they were like this is a hack it's aside from i don't know
Starting point is 00:53:34 you're like you're just getting icing all over the place i don't know this is me being an old head and that's why i bring it to this council i don't understand what problem it's supposed to be solving okay they'll be like, oh, you get frosting all over your face when you have like, you know, just frosting stacked like eight inches off the top of a cupcake and you bite into it and now like you're from your eyebrows down to your
Starting point is 00:53:56 chin is like inundated with but like that's not a thing I've had an issue with like I know how to fucking finesse a cupcake. Yeah. Also, where are they getting the I've had an issue with. I know how to fucking finesse a cupcake. Yeah. Also, where are they getting the cutting tool?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Okay, so you're carrying a knife. I think they're ripping it. Brute force with your hands. I think your hands are going to be sticky. That's what I don't understand when you say that Anne Hathaway says it's a very clean process. Anne Hathaway is out there in the streets tearing the ass off a cupcake? Right. Mangling them in front of children very clean process. She's Anne Hathaway is out there in the streets, tearing,
Starting point is 00:54:26 tearing the ass off a cupcake. Right. Yeah. Mangling them in front of children and then saying it's a clean way to eat. Yeah. I don't know. People point out to like, you know what happens when you're eating a sandwich?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Inevitably you're going to displace the frosting. When you bear down with having the cup, the cupcake bottom on top, the frosting needs somewhere to go. And that's probably out the damn sides. Yeah. You're displacing for sure. I just don't. This is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And this comes from somebody who, as a kid, I would eat the paper from the cupcake just to kind of get the last bit of flavor off of it as a kid. Because I'm like, that's great. That should really. Oh, yeah. You're leaving money on the table if you're not getting a little bit of bite out of that cupcake. Yeah. That's how I always saw it.
Starting point is 00:55:13 You're leaving money on the table. Yeah. You're just leaving money on the table, baby. Kyle, you worked at a cupcake shop, right? I worked at a cupcake shop for many years. I worked in the back. I decorated cupcakes for all kinds of events. And this was never a practice that I saw at that cupcake shop.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Did you ever see anyone? Have you heard of this? Have you seen this? I've never heard of this. It makes me believe that this is a new trend. This was never a thing. The one thing that I did hear about was like sometimes I worked there at a point where they had like cupcake toppers where like they baked like the top of a cupcake, top of cupcakes, and then put frosting in the center. But it was never us tearing anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, why would you introduce that to somebody's... I don't know why I got so serious. Yeah, the way you were accessing your memory. My hands came... Prayer hands. Yeah. My favorite cupcake, Suzy Cakes, has a little dig out in the middle where they add extra icing. Oh, Max.
Starting point is 00:56:24 If you tried this shit with one of those, you would have a disaster on your hands. You would just have a ball of icing and cupcake that you would have to just shove in your mouth. And you set someone up who likes to do
Starting point is 00:56:40 the hack with that. That's what I'm going to do next time. I'm going to be like, oh, I got some cupcakes. Why don't you do the hack on this one? Everywhere. I'm like, you fool. So when you went to this party with the cupcakes, were they already in that shape or just everyone started doing that?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Were they on the platter that had been ripped up? No, no, it was just one person. No, one person just goes, Hey guys, this is how to eat a cupcake.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Okay. Okay, let me ask you this. Did this person start a revolution? Or did everyone ignore that? Or was the response kind of tepid? No, it was kind of one of those things. And I'm sure they don't listen. But, like, everyone's kind of like, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It was just kind of very quickly dismissed. I was the most curious. I'm like, why would you do that and not like in a confrontational i was like really trying to understand like am i missing some like key to efficiency here that i'm completely like it's like it's lost on me it's like no it's just easier that way and then like watching their little like like frosting covered fingers as they like delicately ate like this sandwichified cupcake i was was like, you've done nothing. I am going to try this.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So we talked before a couple weeks back. One of our guests said that they recommended eating an apple from the bottom up. Rather than like a rotational. Instead of rotational around bottom up. From the bottom. We have not been able to stop talking about that even though i refused to try it miles tried it and did not like it no some of our guests same deal this is one that i like even less than that hack but i will try it because i'm always
Starting point is 00:58:19 down to experiment with a cupcake i don't mean to be i don't mean to be rude, but I hear this and I go, this is a non-problem and you need to get a hobby. Yeah. Right. Anne Hathaway. Also, I'm sorry, Anne Hathaway. I'm to believe that Anne Hathaway is eating cupcakes all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Enough to where she needs a solution. Yes, yes, yes. She's like, there's really a problem here. I need to figure this out. She's on the set of a big Hollywood movie and she's like, give me a second. I need to figure out this major problem. And she has all these cupcakes in her room.
Starting point is 00:58:58 She's like, okay. Hi-ya, hi-ya, hi-ya. Let's get her cupcakes. Hi-ya, hi-ya. And then they're like whoa and you gotta come on set i was just like that yeah she she could be oh she's like it was the kelly clarkson show and like you go on a show you're promoting something you're like so like and let's talk about your new film no shut the fuck up bring those cupcakes out really quick i gotta fucking
Starting point is 00:59:24 tell everybody about this problem that we're facing right now oh the rampant inequality no fucking inequality shut the fuck up kelly inequality of distribution of icing and of casing good nice setup kelly good all right you try and eat it like a normal asshole you see folks, folks? Look. Completely destroying it. Now, watch Anne's perfect method. Oh, my. See? It's totally clean. They're all doing the Anne
Starting point is 00:59:53 over there. Yeah. Right. It does presuppose that the icing is the messy part, but the cake is really the messy part because it's the crumbly shit that gets all over the place. Now, granted, it's easier to clean up if you have like a little handbag or something. So maybe that's where they're coming from. No, Jack, who goes?
Starting point is 01:00:13 Well, why are we even saying that using a miniature hand vacuum is part of the cupcake eating process? And obviously, because you're going to have your handbag handy. I have a four-year-old the miniature handbag is like the sixth step on many of many of that's true actually because it's so true all my friends have smaller kids they have like hand vacuum my one friend busted out a tiny little one that they even a backpack yeah just like the main reason i'm jealous of iron man is because he has that energy source and he could plug in a hand a little hand vac and just carry it around with him at all times. A Dyson even.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah. Like, really? That's the main reason. Other than that, didn't really see anything else that impressed me about this guy. But that suit, that's a walking vacuum power station. Hey, talking about movies, right? I mean, let's talk. It's Hollywood's big night.
Starting point is 01:01:11 You know, we live in L.A., so we're all, you know, getting ramped up, getting revved up, excited for the night that the stars really do come out and shine. The Oscars are Sunday. And there was a little controversy i know this seems strange for anybody who pays attention to the oscars but people did get a little up in arms about something seemingly small with regards to rachel ziegler not getting invited to the oscars people said it's a snub. What happened? You get two tickets or the studios get tickets to send whoever they believe is
Starting point is 01:01:50 worthy of a ticket. Is this some kind of conspiracy? And you're saying what? In her initial post, she said, I've been trying, but sorry, I got it doesn't seem like it's happening. I'll be watching the Oscars with all of you from my couch.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So this put visions in everybody's mind of, you know, the star of one of Hollywood's most nominated movies. It was like one of the great, like, you know, come from. She went from like high school plays to a Steven Spielberg movie. Everyone's like, yes. Steven Spielberg movie. Everyone's like, yes, people were now picturing her sitting at home in L.A. while like, you know, down the block, all these studio heads were partying it up. So then the Oscars reverse course, they were like, not only are you invited, you're going to be a presenter. And Gawker has been relaunched. And this is the shit that they existed in the first place and are re-existing for they pointed out that this might have been like kind of a bullshit story first of all she was not
Starting point is 01:02:54 watching it from her couch she's in london shooting the live action snow white i think and so it would have been a massive undertaking for her to like for them to stop the production have her fly across the world fly back at covet times which yeah like means that people need to get tested and quarantine and all that shit so i feel like you know and then it's also the oscars are on abc owned by disney She's making a movie for Disney. So maybe they were just like, we're just not going to invite her. Right. Which I think that's where the issue is.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Gawker is like, she's a liar. She was misrepresenting it. But this just makes me think like, oh, she's going to be good in her career. Well, Disney, though, too. Yeah, Disney fucked up they they're notorious for like being very on top of money that's being spent so i'm sure and they'll be like oh if this if the star of our film that we're trying to make more money on has to leave production that's going to clog things up and cost us more money than it would even have right Fine, whatever. But hey, Rachel, you know, glad to welcome to the town
Starting point is 01:04:05 where the part of town I'll never go anymore. And everyone in L.A. has no idea the Oscars are happening. So it is a monumental time. When you were setting the story up, I'm like, the Oscars, when everyone in L.A. aggressively becomes anti-Oscars. Right. Yeah. Kyle and Anna, are you excited at all?
Starting point is 01:04:28 I mean, I'm looking at these faces. They do not say, we're in to go to watch the Oscars. I mean, what I got to say about that part of town is there is a Beetlejuice-themed bar. Oh, where is the... Those Oscars are, like, by... Oh, on Hollywood Boulevard.
Starting point is 01:04:43 On Hollywood, the Kodak. Wow. Yeah, the Beetlejuice barice bars right there so that she could go there i will be watching watch it from there from a beetlejuice themed bar like all of you right they do like blood shots yeah we could talk at length about the bar because they're they're they do really cool stuff but as far as the Oscars go, I dropped off after. I mean, I was just recently thinking about the beautiful moonlight moment. That, for me, is, of course, that's top level. I think it was the last time I watched an Oscars. Yeah, I maybe took a look since then, but I'm not really in there.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely not in there. Yeah, I'm not really in there. Yeah, I'm definitely not in there. Yeah, I'm not really in there. I once went actually to see the limos as like an experiment just to like see what that... Experimenting with limo watching? Well, I just wanted to
Starting point is 01:05:38 see. My friend was doing this like project on tourism, so we dressed up like tourists and went to watch the limos and um people were just making fun of us but it was like no the joke's on you because we're this is an experiment not serious an experiment so yeah actually not as sad as you think it's so interesting because people line up and watch limos go by, but you can't see anything. They're all tinted, right?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah. So you're just like, hi. It's just like a spiritual. It's not seeing them. It's them seeing you. It's them. Yes. That's what's weird.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Amazing. I mean, that kind of makes sense to me because like celebrity is. Yeah. It's like a spiritual proximity, like a physical, like just physically being there is like, they saw me. Right, right, right. Like you don't know who it is seeing you. It could be the. It's Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:06:37 It could be the cinematographer who you don't know who it is. Yeah. Best point grip. Yeah. Key grip, you know. Key grip. Key art PA. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:06:47 I, on accident, one time went to like an Oscar swag thing, like giveaway. I had no idea. My friend was like, do you want to come with me to this thing? She was a journalist. And so she was invited to this thing. I had no idea what it's for. We went. It was the day.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I think it might have been either the day or the day before the Oscars. I had just come from an exercise class and I had wet hair. And I was like just wearing just like exercise clothes. And then we arrive and it was like people in gowns taking step and repeat photos. And it was a swag bag event for like just weed as far as i just weed in general just different weed companies came out to you by weed yeah yeah there were just all sorts of there was literally weed for dogs so then there was a dog representative a dog in a gown which you probably fit in more with your wet hair and exercise clothes at a weed giveaway
Starting point is 01:07:49 than someone in a fucking ball gown so i mean it was it was crazy people were like really networking and there were charcuterie being passed around and i was like i did not know i just must have prepared was it with a swag bag situation? Do you go and you just pick up a bag and leave? But or no, you're saying you schmooze a little? You have to schmooze for like five minutes. Okay. They're like, oh, let's check you in.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And then you go inside the suite. Excuse me. You're in the suite for like a few minutes. And, you know, you're like waiting in line to receive your duffel bag full of i'm sorry but just weed right right and so yeah you have to you can't be weird and just take your bag you have to like no and then while you're standing in line people come up to you for example with the dog representative they go might i interest you in some dog weed or whatever so you have you can't be i mean maybe you could be like not for me
Starting point is 01:08:45 yeah he's on the prize but i'm gonna just take my double bag so did you get the bag i did get the bag you secured the bag and was it good like were the products cool did you feel like they lift the oxidative burden at a cellular level. That was a thing that we learned about one of the giveaways in this year's Swag Bag. It lifts the oxidative burden at the cellular level. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Any products like that or just weed? Mostly weed. There were, no, there were like, take a CBD and THC infused massage from this man. We'll come to your house. There was a variety of things and there were vapes and all this other stuff. I'm going to say something that will immediately out me as an unpopular guest in your program.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Your ratings are going to go through the toilet. I'm so sorry. Through the toilet. You're going to have to get a plumber in there. Through the toilet. Oh, no. That's's pretty impressive i'm not even 420 friendly oh boy wow just don't even i can't smoke weed because it just makes me honestly it's me it makes me too crazy yeah yeah me too but it could be the way i'm right there with you it's be the weed. It's me. The weed is so nice. The weed is really nice. Please, it's me.
Starting point is 01:10:07 It's really me. I don't want to ruin it for you. So you got basically a useless bag of nothing. My friend didn't tell me it was a weed thing. Right, right, right. She just said, come with me. And presumably your friend knows you well enough to be like, Anna does not fucking with weed. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And yet there I am with double bag a weep. Now our focus is on this friend. Yeah. Yeah, it's a controversial friend. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's been such a pleasure having both of you on the Daily Zeitgeist as always. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? I mean,
Starting point is 01:10:44 the focal point right now is the Truth Hounds. Yes. On Instagram, it's at Truth Hounds. Twitter, at the Truth Hounds. Because just the regular Truth Hounds was taken up by this other organization. Yes. Right, right. Personal Instagrams, at Gile Mazzono.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Okay. And then I'm at Cash Money Grandpa. Keep in mind, I'm not even 420 friendly. Right. Yes. And the first episode's out, I said,
Starting point is 01:11:13 is dropping, but the first episode has dropped, right? It actually came out on Tuesday. Yeah. And new episodes are going to come out
Starting point is 01:11:21 every Tuesday, so get ready for that. And actually, we should say that we kind of do live invest. So we're like still recording the season. So people should if they want to participate along with the investigations, they should seek out the social media sites because we'll put out like what we call calls to action. Yeah. Yes. You love a call to action. like what we call calls to action yeah yes you love a call to action love a call there's something yeah there's something specific in our minds right now that we can't say yet but we will need your help so okay please be there and then is the episode coming out this tuesday horror part one yes oh folks it's a question of like why people do scary, like intentionally scare themselves.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I think it's more, we look at what, what fear is and what, what is it about? Second part of the question is what is it about fear that makes it impossible to look away? But your entry point into it, I,
Starting point is 01:12:19 I have to say it, it's, it inspired me. So please y'all definitely, definitely, you got to listen. What does that mean? Give us a tease. Well, because in the episode, right, it just starts off in a place that I feel is very like a friend type thing where Anna has found something. And she's like, Kyle, you're not going to believe this thing I found.
Starting point is 01:12:39 And I'm not even going to get specific. But it's just like a quirky thing you see on the Internet. You're like, my friend has to see this. And then you're like, we need to know more about this thing on the internet we're looking at. And I just love the energetic launch point of the episode because I think most people who are on the internet can identify with that feeling of like, I have to show my friend this. But no one goes the next step to be like, and we will be with this thing and these people at some point. So, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:10 It's definitely, definitely a wild ride. Yes. We're so excited. We hope you listen. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you guys have been enjoying? Oh, yeah, you have. I don't know if you guys have been enjoying. Oh, yeah, you have. Oh, the... I don't know if you guys already discussed this.
Starting point is 01:13:27 The woman who did stand-up comedy at AMC. Oh! I saw that tweet, though. No, but we haven't brought it up. What? It's pretty crazy. Maybe watch the full-length video that Anna's talking this morning.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Oh, there's a video of it? This is the story, right, about how the projectors went down, and someone decided to do Maybe watch the full length video. Oh, there's a video of it? Yeah, there's a video. This is the story, right, about how the projectors went down and someone decided to do stand-up in front of a movie theater because the projector went down? I wouldn't even call it stand-up. I would say it's like a mixture of things. I can't.
Starting point is 01:13:59 All right. That's plenty. I am very excited to see this now. I am a single mom. Do we have any single moms in the house? that's that's plenty i i'm very excited to see this now wow this is just a smash cut of all the things that's being said and it's just wild because no one's paying attention people are constantly crossing in front of the camera like i i beg you to get to the goblin part because the what you'll know the goblin part there's a goblin part all right is that beg you to get there is that one third one half or all the what what section do you think it's three fourths
Starting point is 01:14:45 of the way damn the thing i wasn't prepared for was how much it seemed like a prepared bit or like that like they had been working on the like there was like a certain humanity taken out of it that was almost like they've been practicing this and we're like waiting for this moment to just pop up and like drop this tight 20 minutes. They've been training. Let's see. Last battery. They loved it. Right after this.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Oh my God. After this. What? After this. They're clapping. Not to have the baby. Oh. Oh. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Okay. There is also a tweet right underneath that said, I spoke with the comedian in the viral video, and she said her eight-year-old daughter dared her to do it. But then she said, everyone thinks I'm a stripper from NorCal. I was like, wait, what? Are you doing that material for your daughter? Your daughter loves that joke.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah. I did a little bit of a deep dive. The goblin part is really a highlight. It is a highlight. And Kyle and I go, is that what we're like on stage? Yeah, honestly, that was my thought was, is that how people see us? And that scares me. That is actually really scary.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I did like that someone on the Twitter wrote, heartbreak feels good in a place like this. Which is just so really nice. A nice little callback to that video at AMC. Is that the Nicole Kidman one? Yes. Heartbreak feels good in a place like this. Heartbreak feels good Kidman one? Yes. Her brain feels good enough. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, the new podcast, Mad Boosties. Jack and I are doing a basketball podcast with the NBA where we're just having fun. No, we're not speaking our heat takes. We're just celebrating what we love about the game with some very funny guests and just generally talking about the sport that we like.
Starting point is 01:16:54 And mostly because a lot of people notice we talk a lot about basketball on the Trend episode, so why not? Including the NBA noticed it. They were like, hey, come make a podcast for us and it should be out in a week yeah you know the nba they put their they took their airpods out and they said this is the next best thing and in this version of the story the nba is a human who loves our podcast uh and nothing
Starting point is 01:17:18 hey nfl get in here i gotta show you the wave of the future hey hey nfl you know that sound you were looking for okay some tweets that i like hey nba it's your cousin marvin ba marvin ba uh let's see a tweet i like is from tasha at tasha kaminsky tweeted when i was 15 my mother's jewelry was stolen the cops were really into the angle that i had sold the jewelry for drugs to throw a party. My mother looked at me wistfully and said, no, she couldn't throw a party to save her life. She hasn't even figured out her hair. Proper parental slamage. Ice T tweeted, I was robbed at a gas station in New Jersey
Starting point is 01:18:06 last night. After my hands stopped trembling, I managed to call the cops, and they were quick to respond and call me down. My money is gone. The police asked me if I knew who did it. I said, yes. It was Pump No. 9. Oh, my God. And then the
Starting point is 01:18:22 clipping, the Daveed Diggs hip-hop group tweeted, can't wait for legendary gangster rapper Ice-T's forthcoming album. Nice to meet you, Hungary. I'm dead. Oh, my God. I'm hungry. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Okay. That is a classic. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page. Fan page. And a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:18:53 where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles with song do we think people might enjoy this is a remix uh from a really great track from the latest hiatus coyote album red room but it's a remix by nick hakeem this so this is the nick hakeem remix of red room and i just like it because it's it's like one of those remixes where you're not just kind of taking one section and looping
Starting point is 01:19:23 it or chopping it up to make it sound like this is the remix kind of like listening for little nuances in the song to kind of bring out and kind of recontextualize the song anyway if you like hiatus coyote you got to check this one out so this is the red room nick hyde nick hakeem remix all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.
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