The Daily Zeitgeist - We Messed Up Britney, (Slave) Life On Mars? 2.11.21

Episode Date: February 11, 2021

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It is Thursday, February 11th, 2021. Happy B-Day to my dad, Pa, as my kids call him. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I sit in a Jeep outside a church. Too white, I can't sense a cringe coming down I'm here to heal this nation's woes You look at me like one side's Nazi clowns You tell me this ain't it boss I need to go inside and pray on the cross

I'll let you down, down, down, down I'll let you down, down, down, down. I'll let you down, down, down, down. Also, arrested for drunk driving. That is courtesy of Smash Mouth of CL. Number one Smash Mouth. Super fan. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as By my co-host Mr. Miles Graham Cue drops just came down

Saving these kids unless they're brown Cause I'm ignorant Alright and that just Cueing on Britney Spears mashup Just popped in my brain right before we started recording So shout out to my uh just constant tv watching by myself yeah yeah the queen who we will talk about today yeah yeah uh speaking of queens uh we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious the talented amy miller

Unmounted Amy Miller! Yay! It's me, Framing Amy Miller. Framing Amy? What would your New York Times docu-thing look like, you think? What would it sort of center around, if it was Framing Amy Miller? Just constant self-sabotage, maybe. We'd be mad at you by the end.

Yeah, we know why she's not more famous she did this to herself yeah yeah uh uh what what's new with you amy what's new what is i mean how do you even i mean ralph smart and final right aid you know like this is they're all within a block so i like to change up the scenery from time to time get get a get a grocery item at right aid just go crazy you know hey once a week treat yourself go to a different ralph's once a week what okay i've been going to the grocery stores but i really don't leave often um but I have been once or twice a week, local restaurant, dinner, no chains ever for food in that way. And that's been nice. Yeah, yeah.

Support the neighborhood folks. How much cooking are you doing? Ton of cooking. A lot. Are you one of these people? Because I know it's weird. I know some people who used to cook who are cooking less. I mean, they have the means to cook less and just eat out more because they just don't have the will within themselves to cook anymore.

I've gone the opposite where I'm like, the only way I know how to live is through using fire to make food. Yeah, I'd say I'm cooking more. But that's because before I was on the road working as a comedian. So if I was home, cooking was very special. It was like, ooh, mama's home. I don't have any kids, just a boyfriend. But he's young, as everybody knows. So he calls me mama.

He doesn't do that. But I cook like four or five nights a week, and then we'll eat out a couple. But we stopped doing like, why am I going to Chipotle in los angeles you know what i mean like i get that it's easy i order in the app it's right there but there's a million different places i can get a good burrito or taco or you know go to like vallarta even and go to their butcher and just buy their carne asada or wherever you know what i mean like there that's

the thing i've realized too is like there's so many things that like i would just buy out because i never had the imagination or just ability to be like wait i think i can make that shit and actually look good too i know but yeah we're a couple of cooking fools it's the dishes that really get you the dishes are like if i could cook without dishes i would cook three meals a day but right that's why i cook a lot of stews like shit in like a one dutch oven or like grill oh yeah instapot yeah just wash that one thing i think that's why air frying has also become really popular too because it is like sort of a one chamber just like i do all the dirty shit in there and then it's done totally but for my instapot friends

you know you got to clean the inside of that lid too you can't just clean the pot oh no wipe out that lid oh no yes hold on I feel like we shouldn't have to say this but please clean the clean the lids that's what adds all the flavor. It's like one of those cast iron skillets. You gotta season the lid. Seasoning. I mean, I don't want it to taste like soap. Come on.

I want to have that chili funk from the late 90s. Get it all out, Jack. That's our catchphrase for this. We can't tell you what it means. The awful origin story. Alright, Amy, we're going to get to know

you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're going to talk about. We've all watched Framing Britney Spears. We're going to talk about that documentary. We're going to talk about the video that the Democrats showed at the second

day of the impeachment of donald trump's second impeachment uh we're going to talk about why the media doesn't care about those uh two thousand dollar checks as much as they should uh elon musk's uh starlink i think it's called uh his new internet service service that you can get in on the ground floor of for a low, low deposit of ninety nine dollars and then five hundred dollars for the required hardware and then ninety nine dollars a month. But he's doing it to spread Internet access to underserved communities. But you still have to pay. Yeah. Underserved communities famously have seven hundred dollars to pay. Yeah, underserved communities famously have $700 to just lay out for

internet off the rip like that. He's actually doing it to fund his Mars ventures, but we'll get into that. We'll get into the new replacement for the Aunt Jemima pancake brand.

They've come up with their new name, and it's delicious sounding. Can't wait to get my mouth around that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Amy, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I'm not, I'll be honest with you guys.

This is more of a statement about who my friends are. Yes. I did the other morning wake up to several texts letting me know that Trey Songz had a sex tape. I did Google it immediately. Saw it. Great, great work, everybody. But just the fact that I had like multiple people being like wake up amy needs to know there's big news they're calling each other being like have you gotten a hold of amy

yet she's she must be asleep what the hell's going on about her i know who lives closest throw rocks at her window so i love i love him and his songs and other things about him. And also his response was really funny because he was just like making coy little, like tweeting his own song lyrics about his penis that he wrote that I guess were true. Yeah. Yeah, he's the best. Anyway, it's on Twitter if you want to see it. He also hasn't really like fought to have it brought down at all,

which is interesting. He's just like, yeah, this is good advertising. Yeah. I mean, what better advertising for somebody with a good penis who sings about using that penis? Exactly. I love, I want to hear Jack say penis so many more times now in my life. He's got a great, that's a great penis, Trey Songz.

Well done. Good hog. Great hog. Solid, man. Solid hog. Solid, my man. Good on you, man. Good on you.

Sorry, I just. Jack's just texting during the show. No, he's Googling the sex tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had to make sure I'm not giving these compliments Out without seeing what the deal is I just had to scrub Through that real quick and yeah

Great work all around What is something you think is underrated Okay Both of these are in honor of The 21st anniversary of Jim Varney's Death I'm going to say underrated. Ernest scared stupid.

Okay. Overrated. Ernest saves Christmas. Ooh. And I love Christmas and Christmas movies, but I don't know. I think honestly maybe Ernest Goes to Jail would be my favorite,

but Christmas gets a lot of shine, and I feel like Halloween really is Ernest's true holiday. And that's Scared Stupid is a Halloween film. That's the one, like, the pumpkin cover. I just know every Ernest film just had Jim Varney just giving that full, like, I burn grin. Jim Varney just giving that full like, grin.

I can't imagine how delicately they handled the carceral system of the United States in their analysis through the Ernest goes to jail prism from the year 1990. This is why I think it needs more credit because

Ernest, across all of his properties, you would think would go a little bit more racist. And he doesn't. Like, at any point. No, yeah, that is true. I feel like that was the thing that my first assumption about an Ernest thing because I was like, hey, I'm like, you talk like the scary people from the movies my grandpa shows me. The hills have eyes. Right, right.

And then you're like, oh, wait, these are more kid friends. Then you realize he was a good guy, right? Yeah, he was a very good guy. Yeah, and pretty diverse casting. And yeah, he just never goes this sort of ignorant hillbilly route that he could have. But yeah, RIP, man. Yeah. You're missed that's an amazing story that that started as a radio advertisement and like for a local car dealership and then local yeah

that's wild what was really crazy is he he was like the local commercial guy it seemed like so he was advertising like a million different places like in these small towns because you're just like oh you want a commercial get earnest he's the commercial guy so right you know it could be like dueling pizza restaurants have the same guy in their commercial essentially because he just had it's such a good idea i should i should do this for the neighborhood restaurants. I'll do your commercial. 500 bucks. Just for some food.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I wonder if someone has an archive of the Jim Varney local ads. That's a documentary that needs to be made. A lot of them are on YouTube. On YouTube? Okay, yeah.

Because I'm curious to see what... Because it's such a specific flavor because the whole Hey Vern thing was him breaking the fourth wall, wasn't it? Like Vern was the person on the other side of the camera, wasn't it? Vern was all of us, Miles. Right.

We were Vern. Oh my... But Vern is really stupid. He's way dumber than Ernest. So yeah, as a kid, you're like, I guess I'm Vern. I'm Vern. I'm Vern. Was Vern, did we ever meet Vern in the films?

I mean, you see his hands and stuff. Like he, you know, he's a person. He's like Claw from Inspector Gadget. Yeah. He's like a very dumb version of Claw. You know what I mean, Vern? Yeah, he trademarked that thing yeah shout out to him uh and and the earnest films uh which none of which i saw for some reason that missed me um so i need to i need to do my work i'm yeah i'm curious to see because

it's funny that i know the last thing the last jim varney thing i sought out to watch was the beverly hillbillies right That was like two years ago. That was a lot of people's introduction to him. And then they were like, oh, he's got all these other. Right. Yeah. But in the South, he was a superstar forever. He's like Killer Bees.

Do you guys know that comedian? Oh, no. I thought you were talking about the actual phenomenon of Killer Bees coming up from the south. No, there's this southern comedian named Killer Bees, and his tagline is, Save up. You better save up. Just like solid conservative financial advice is his catchphrase. Pretty much.

Wait, what did Killer Bees look like? Did he dress like him like he had to have dressed in black and yellow right no he just looks like an old white guy i don't know he's really funny i can't i didn't know killer bees is just the comedian's name yeah it's pretty tight right like he's not a rapper he's oh b-e-a-z killer bees okay i mean that's it that is like one of those nicknames that like yeah that that's his name is like bees some his last name is bees something they're like hey it's killer bees hey it's truett s beasley jr all right he just started killing so hard people started calling him killer bees hell yeah yeah that dude crushes save up yeah i think they say

it stemmed from an incident in his childhood where a friend went into anaphylactic shock after a series of bee stings beasley then threw his epinephrine pen into the river uh and then his friend died giving him the name killer bees this is not real, Miles. Did you just make that up? Yeah. Miles. Allegedly. I just made that up on a joke podcast, okay? That wasn't real. I was so... It was so convincing.

Bit of improv. Bit of improv. Oh, that's amazing. For anybody who... Like, I was confused why they thought they could make a TV show out of the Geico caveman. They were trying to recreate the magic of earnest. You know, just that that's but that's next level. That's a next level talent.

I mean, also hot podcast. Kind of a hot young dude back in the day. Like, obviously. Oh, I think he's very attractive. Yeah. Oh, yeah. When he was unburned, you're you're like, okay, Jim Varney. Yeah.

Exactly what I said. Yeah. There's a picture of him as a young man just like, you know, making love to the camera and through his eyes. Not literally, just like, you know, he's giving the camera a look that's like, damn, Jim Varney. And that's when I knew I was Vern. We're all Vern. We're all Vern.

We all wish we were Vern. And Vern always kept his hands visible so we know he wasn't touching the camera. Yeah, we were talking about that. Oh, that was before the recording. I was off mic, but we were talking about the fact that the wiggles keep uh give the thumbs up and all their pictures because they want uh people the parents to know that their hands are not up to any shenanigans they're not uh doing anything untoward which is important yeah good policy when you're around children constantly for a living right and then just any and like and

just there will always anything that could look improper untoward you never want to be in a situation where you're like no i i just had my hand in my pocket and they're like uh we don't know buddy yeah and you're like okay this is why i do this all the time now it's always thumbs up right and like but what's in their palms yeah exactly let's see the hands, boys. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Britney. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So framing Britney Spears, the internet is a buzz. The American zeitgeist is a buzz. It is a single episode of a dou-series by the new york times which i didn't realize heading into it i assumed it was more of just like a a netflix documentary or something but i guess that lends it a little extra cred since it's like a thoroughly reported uh documentary yeah same i didn't i was surprised i thought i was and and then i'm like, oh, I didn't even know the series existed. Now I want to watch

all these because they have a bunch of really good other topics. What are the other topics? No, I don't remember. Not Britney Spears. I watched the other ones. I was like, what the fuck is this shit? You're like, what the heck? It wasn't until episode six they got to the Britney Spears part. The episode five, I think was like the teenager who hacked twitter or something like that so it's like okay stories behind the headlines um right but this one was um you know i i think it was really like one of the better documentaries about a massive cultural figure where you like see the humanity more than or at least i saw the humanity more than i had really ever seen it

because she's like such an icon and then you just see her behind the scenes like uh you know being smart and creative and like in control of her image like when they're like filming a video or you know planning out a live show she's like it's her vision you know it's not it's not like she's just like some cog in a in a massive pop pop music machine uh it seems like she's like really in control uh back in at the peak of her career and then it also like even more so really changes the way you look at like the the culture of the 90s and early aughts and like how how she was treated yeah it's sickening the whole thing ed mcmahon being such a creep calling himself a boy yeah saying i can be your boyfriend

um i think so as far as her like being sort of in charge of all those projects my theory and some of it is supported is that this did change at some point not just because of the conservatorship but because i i think medication um i'm saying this too because i have a friend of close friend who worked on a project with britney where she saw her every day i'm not gonna say what it is or who the friend is because i don't want her to get fired but she was very much like oh she needs like a lot of handlers like she can't remember to do anything and my friend's theory was that she was heavily drugged like that she was taking enough pills to be like so spaced out that she couldn't do anything for herself.

And she was like, yeah, she's really sweet. She's still just as talented. But like, there's nothing that I can say like directly to Brittany about anything. Like even like, here's your lunch. Like it has to go through someone else. Because she's just like not there. So, which is another kind of dark thing

I was thinking of during the documentary because they don't mention that in the documentary at all. And you know, people can have psychotic breaks for several reasons and she has plenty of reasons to have a psychotic break. Oh my gosh, yeah. No shortage. But I do think, I mean, just this gossip,

hot goss theory that there's some over medication going on, too. I'm sure. But it's just so, it's so fucked. Yeah, and you see kind of the transition from her being this capable, you know, a director of her own fate and projects to now. I'm not even sure if she knows those videos are going on Instagram. Do you know what I mean? I feel like, I don't know.

Yeah, some of the videos that they show, it definitely, I don't know. I hadn't really dug into her Instagram, even though I've listened to the podcast about her Instagram. I'm like, that's probably enough. I don't have to actually look at the Instagram. But actually seeing some of them, it can be a little troubling. But in terms of pop stars stars being over medicated like

you know michael jackson was over medicated elvis that's probably what killed him like that is a a thing that happens even when the pop star is not under massive attack and like basically being gas lit by the universe constantly from day one of them being famous. Right, and it becomes this cycle, I think, of they are under so much duress and stress that it's like, oh, take this, you'll feel better. But then it becomes a means of control. Now we have basically this walking vegetable.

We can just be like, sign here and do this dance and then we'll take you know 25 of your money yeah it's shout out to babs gray and tess barker by the way for really like blowing this whole thing open and i don't think they got enough credit in the documentary honestly um but yeah barbara for these years that it's been going on it's been a wild ride right we were when we were talking on the episode the day before about it and like, cause yeah, that was the first thing I was like,

when are they going to like pop up into this? I was like my first thought, because I'm like my attack, I only had the understanding of this situation because of them. Like at least to the depth that I did. I think most people were like, what's I think most people are like, what's happening with Britney Spears.

But that level of like research and like reporting on just the dynamics of like the conservatorship yeah it was really off the strength of like what i had seen from their or heard from their podcast but yeah i mean like the whole thing it's this also this weird mirror that reflects back to us in this documentary because i find like i realized how much i agreed with mainstream media at the time in terms of their idea of what Britney Spears was. Or I didn't have the same, I guess, gears of empathy and understanding to be like, oh my God, they're just badgering this poor woman. Without actually taking a deeper look at culture at large that created pop stars that are a certain way or what sells in this industry and yeah and that's when i'm just like

man and then i was like fuck all these people and almost like god like also fuck 2007 me yeah and fuck me yeah yeah yeah me well that's when the paparazzi dude talks about the money shot like you know we respond to those things emotionally like those famous paparazzi shots like it works because you're like oh fuck this person is melting down like she's crazy but yeah then when you see the background of it and how much they just broke her down and then you're like fuck this guy too right or just like our understanding around like the vulnerability of any person under distress or dealing with any kind of mental illness versus like it because everyone just defaulted to just ableist jokes of like, oh, look at Britney. She lost it.

Like that's just like, what the fuck was that? And I think that's what's interesting. Again, when with Craig Ferguson, like he had the wherewithal to be like, this is fucking gross, even if it is. Yeah. No one else. But like and with women, it's like's like yeah we just break them down like our female stars and then ridicule them when they have a mental break but also like you can have a mental break as a dude a lot of the time and people are like he's eccentric or this is his new phase this is his new artistic phase

i mean you have to take it you know kanye obviously took it very far where even his biggest fans eventually were like oh okay trump i don't know yeah this is not this is too far but for a long time nobody would say like kanye is struggling mentally you know at least not like he's an artist the normal like sort of entertainment tonight sort of takes it's like more raucous behavior from kanye west and i think like yeah once the maga stuff happened i was like oh man he's just he's hurting like and yeah it's it's it's hard to know what's going on but yeah the britney thing i really it's like you know jack you're you're probably gonna talk about this but like the way

i instantly turned on people as i watched it oh yeah like i didn't realize the crimey river video was a hit piece yeah yeah yeah absolutely diane sawyer fuck diane sawyer oh that was the worst yeah so disappointing that interview this woman says she wants to shoot you uh well what do you have to say it's like yo what the fuck and she's like maybe it's because of your behavior yeah yeah and totally like acting like that is a reasonable well it's hard being a parent you know it's like what right and then she's like well you know i'm not their babysitter yeah i was like thank you britney yes thank you she was so like i don't know like the thing i was really like took away from it was how just above and beyond she went to like let

just like to kind of you know uh persist through this just terrible behavior just was so patient with people patient with the paparazzi was like put on a friendly face for the paparazzi. Yeah, like you were saying, the mental health stuff, there's this study that I always think about with regards to mental health that found that people who suffer from depression are actually, they have a clearer view of reality than people who don't. It's basically to live a life as a not depressed person you have to be uh adding some level of delusion to at least in our uh version of america like americans need delusion to not be depressed and like with britney spears it's like the things that uh like her behavior once the quote mental break happened

is how i would have reacted from day one like it was just like yo that is how that is her being a human being and like i the the part where she like took the umbrella to the car like that that seemed like the very least she could do yeah like as she was like damn i wish someone gave her a bat or something like a hardcore in that umbrella and i mean it was interest you know she's her career is based on this tension between being a madonna and a temptress and like then she i i really like got the sense just from the overall media story arc that the thing that people and the mainstream media couldn't forgive her for for was having two babies with kevin federline in particular but just having babies was like the you know they were so obsessed with like are you a virgin they were like people would literally ask her that uh and then she had

two babies and like suddenly the world turns on her and then that became like a a thing where they like her children were withheld from her it was like uh so i don't know it's like a novel knowing too like that moment of the back and forth was like her trying to see her kids and getting like ghosted at the gate trying to see her kids so like you're dealing with someone who is a parent who is being denied the ability to see their kids right or wrong but that is that emotional space this person is in and then to like keep at it it's like jesus come we all everyone projected onto her immediately that she was an unfit mother and it to such an extreme that she sort of almost became one but she didn't have

access to her kids right that's like the story of britney is like you know having to figure out your sense of self when so much has been projected onto you starting from being sexualized as a child you know and she did have so much of her own agency early on and she is smart i mean that's the thing with like young girls we call precocious is that eventually it becomes just uh you know that's like dolly parton was the same way it becomes a defense mechanism it becomes easier eventually you're like oh i can manipulate these people in a way that i will make more money but then also'm like, just my sense of self is crumbling because I don't know, am I an adult or a kid? Am I a whore? Am I a mother? You know, it's like, it's so sad.

Yeah. Like the fact that there's a custody issue at the center of it is, I think like that, that was a bigger, plays a bigger role in everything than i realized heading into the documentary that like her dad and like the conservatorship is able to manipulate her because they're always dangling the idea that like she'll not be able to like see her kids over her head like that just from the start. It's like when when the conservatorship was established, it was like you said, it was over her not being able to that's like, you know, that's how humans are. If you can't see your kids for no reason. And meanwhile, people are like harassing you and calling you an unfit mother. Like that is a the most human response.

You know, like I've had to grieve a lot of lost loved ones in the last year. And it's it's our it's hard to grieve or process shit on your own okay even if you have the privacy of your own home that you are still going through it and you have to be present for that to then add a layer of provocation from unknown people in the public with flashing lights is an absurd like it's absurd to think that any person could navigate that and not uh have some kind of outburst of any kind and it's oh yeah that's like when you start realizing it's like jesus christ like we get numb to the idea of what a celebrity is because it's just like they're people that we capture and still images wearing Ugg boots, drinking Starbucks or something and not ever being able to really be like, what if that was you trying just to fuck the celebrity dynamics?

Imagine you at your lowest point now add people in your face and trying to yell all this shit at you. And how are you handling that? And then a media apparatus that to your point, Amy, it's like we all sort of were complicit in creating the momentum of being like oh that's unfit uh-oh she's in trouble that's yeah and we all judged her for driving with the baby in her lap but you know jack those car seats are not easy to buckle up under any kind of duress even if your kid is just crying and tired so then add like a bunch of flash bulbs and people trying to get into your car and your baby's screaming and you're like uh you know fucking uh what was like a simple girl nice

girl from the south she's like oh we drove around as babies in the front of the truck all the time yeah yeah she's like i had to get out of that situation like these are my maternal instincts but yeah i mean shout out to everyone operating car seats every day because that shit is tough i remember i tried helping a friend get their car seat in i was like i almost spiked this shit on the road i was like you know wait the hook goal well you didn't tell me there was a hook on the back of the seat you know i know and then they're like it's too loose you gotta pull that big loop down at the bottom and fucking suck them in there.

I'm like, I'm going to hold your baby like a football and I'll meet you down the street. Yeah, no. Shout out to my four year old and two year old who figured out how to use those things because I wasn't trying to do it. They they're buckled in if they if they can get it buckled by the time I start the car. Oh, unfit father, unfit otherwise father i thought the most revealing clip in the whole documentary was the interview with her brother where he's like yeah man the women in this family have a mind of their own man you know it's uh you call it crazy call whatever you want

but uh and the person's like you mean they they want to exercise their constitutional rights of self-government? And he's like, oh, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could just tell there's this toxic patriarchal family ideal among he and his father. It's like the boys versus the girls in the family. Right. Where it's like, yeah, my dad and I know. Because my dad's been telling me since I was a kid it's like i'm telling your mother and your sisters if i mean if if you let them loose the world would end yeah and i think that he had to take

control of her completely right like getting back for generations of strong women yeah yeah yeah absolutely because even like that one clip they showed of like the mtv comeback thing where it was like you saw like a little interaction it was clearly like someone who is like yo my dad ain't shit and is trying to control my life and i also i don't fucking listen to his ass and then frustrated dad who feels like powerless but has like this other way to like exercise their power because she's like no i'm not gonna do is like oh fuck like when he walked off i was like oh my like this guy doesn't care about her oh like he's just he's just in this pissing contest over who has control the uh her dad um stays very private you don't see like a lot of interviews with him and this documentary makes it clear why like he's just like a straight out

he's just like yeah whatever man like he he doesn't really give a shit he's not given this much more thought than like doing what he can to exercise power and then has lawyers and like the judge not letting her hire her own lawyer was so frustrating it's truly truly wild and mean, it's a weird thing. Like, my wife and I were watching it, and she was, like, asking, like, so they just got away with that then? And I was like, well, no, because this is, like, bringing public pressure.

But, like, does that help? But effectively, they did get away. They're getting away with it. They're getting away with it because, like, does public pressure influence a judge's decision in a case like this? It's not like it's the impeachment trial. It's like, you know, April.

Every man in that documentary should be jailed alongside Diane Sawyer and dig up Ed McMahon and throw him in there too. Yeah. The Ed McMahon clip, for anybody who hasn't watched the documentary, is like she is a eight year old star star search and she's great and like just has this like wild confidence and like

stage presence and then ed mcmahon comes up and is like very first question he asks her is do you have a boyfriend and it's like what and she says no and he says? And it's like, what? And she says, no. And he says, why? And she's like, they're mean. And he goes, I'm a boy. Am I mean? She's like, no, you're creepy as fuck. You're like a weird old skin flap ghost, motherfucker. Get out my face.

Get your skin tags out of my face, old man. What are those, piercings or skin tags? Come on, motherfucker, get them out of my face. All right, real quick, let's talk about the impeachment. Let's get this shit out of the way. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. I like how we're like, fuck everyone shooting. We just spend 40 minutes talking about Britney.

We're allies now. We weren't before, but now we've seen the light yeah so the democrats you know the first couple days of the impeachment i would say are mostly uh the the big takeaways are that trump's defense team doesn't really seem to have a strategy uh like to the point that republican senators are coming out and being like this is a fucking mess like what are they doing like and and they're also complimenting the you know the democrats for the case that they're presenting uh the democrats showed a 14 minute video of uh january 6th that you know is pretty convincing i mean it's if you already watched the footage,

you know it's pretty bad, but it does a fairly good job of showing some of the more violent behavior alongside the words of Trump. And it's all just very... My prediction and what I'm seeing so far is that this is just going to be a very frustrating experience of seeing a open and shut case and then watching the republicans

ignore it yeah because yeah yeah because like it's like who needs more convincing i mean like yeah the video is compelling uh but like it's it's purely a thing of you're dealing with like racist goons and you're trying to art like you're we're trying to use like persuasive logical arguments like with a rock. Like it doesn't that's not the language that they're not even actually interested in communicating. So this feels futile. this feels futile but i also understand that like there's a a public getting the public to fully understand like what's going on because there are i'm sure some people are still like well i don't know did he and that video is like it's so like linear like a to b to people beating police with hockey sticks off the strength of the words of the president them repeating what he's saying out loud the timeline's all there uh on top of that y y'all were there that day, if you recall.

The vibes weren't great, at the very least. I think we could all agree on that. But yeah, that's why I'm so frustrated that his defense goes out there. And absolutely, they just embarrass themselves with non-arguments or rebuttals or even presenting like some kind of case or counter argument and and yeah we're we're in a world where these other people can just shamelessly set the the country in a direction that it's absolutely doesn't need to be going yeah i saw like i mean a lot of people were trying to get uh julie giuliani kicked off twitter because he's putting this message out there that the insurrection was BLM.

And it's like, it's so... But even just looking at the number of retweets, because I'll do investigative work and go in and be like, what people are retweeting this? You know what I mean? And it's definitely a lot of bots and not real humans. But for sure, a handful of people that truly believe that.

I'm just like like it doesn't make any sense we know all these people's backgrounds we like what you know we saw them get arrested at their grandmother's homes it's like yeah we've seen shit they've posted before like there's just no chance that it's it's and and they're armed with like this phrase i've heard these thought terminating cliches that they can deploy the second critical thought has to enter their mind. So if it's if it's saying something like, you know, you can just dismissively be like, well, George Soros and BLM, it's like, hold on, you're just you're getting you're just going on this take to avoid critically analyzing what was just said to you like like really walk through it but it's easy and like this was like in this document i was watching about just trying to figure out how you can reverse course from q anon spoiler alert you're gonna i don't know about that

but the when you see that sort of that's that pattern of like uh communicating it's like you actually can't go anywhere because the second there is a moment that critical thought has to enter they've safeguarded themselves with these like talking points or empty platitudes whatever to avoid it so that's i'm like it's i don't know at what point you break through i mean knowing tom cotton and ted cruz like had trouble watching the video physically like trying to look away i mean says something but at the end of the day it's just more i think it just underscores the fact that they're shameless and they were just trying to avoid feeling anything because they know what they're about to do right

can i go to the bathroom again uh ted you just went to the bathroom i know but i got i gotta go again could i uh me too i gotta go too yeah uh I meet you? Hey, I gotta go too. Yeah. Yes. Senator cotton. My foot hurts. What? No, this is the impeachment trial. Oh man.

I left my cranberry CD on the quad. I need to go get that before someone snags it. And I leave. All of a sudden they believe in COVID. I think I have a fever. I'm coughing. I need to go. Yeah.

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that are no longer even being talked talked about it's now we're now talking about fourteen hundred dollar checks i didn't even get my six hundred okay yeah it's a suspected fraud and they're just like what oh yeah yeah yeah they're just like it's happened to a ton of people with california unemployment and with the um with the stimulus check that it was just like you go on and be like, oh, have I got my check yet? And then they're like, we sent it to this bank account number and it's not my bank account at all. And then they're just like,

oh, you can claim a credit on your taxes, but otherwise it's just gone. There's nothing they can do. It's wild. Yeah. I mean, it's the amount like it's because the whole effort to try and provide any kind of support stimulus package anything has just been so fucked up and backwards and like we for whatever reason democrats keep getting to the point where

they're like yeah man helping people is the right thing to do and then three weeks later like but like way less though because like you don't want to like give rich people money and you're like what's the fuck is going on you know what i mean because in the in the in the election cycle it was like yes and like they're campaigning on these two thousand dollar checks blah blah blah but then once joe biden got in office things started changing a little bit i mean the pushback sort of began in december like the $2,000 check idea came out and like Trump was like, whoa, OK, that's we like that. And then like as the $1,400 thing came out and like they were trying to lower the thresholds, which would potentially deny aid to half of Americans. Like, don't don't even don't even think of of who you think is getting the money. Just think

on terms of numerically who's getting help. You're saying less than half, knowing how many people are being affected by the pandemic? No. Based on also their earning from the year before the pandemic. Right. Because a lot of those are from your old IRA, from your 2019 taxes so you know at that time the media just didn't bat an eye when it went to 1400 and like and then suddenly at the end of january they all rallied around this study from a billionaire funded think tank that basically manufactured the consent and cemented the sort of quote-unquote logic that helping people may actually be bad uh it was it comes from it's it all comes out of, I believe it's Harvard, and it's called Opportunity Insights. This think tank is funded by the family foundations of Mark Zuckerberg,

Mike Bloomberg, and Bill Gates. So this study comes from this billionaire think tank. But they're looking for insights into opportunity so it can't be a bad so then this then once this study came out with very little like footnotes and things like that all these media outlets started just jumping on it the washington post had a headline and said quote cutting off stimulus checks to americans earning over 75 000 could be wise new data suggests. This is from Bloomberg. Biden's stimulus risks giving money to people who won't spend it. The Washington Post editorial board said, quote, targeting relief to the neediest, thus freeing up more resources for

higher priorities such as vaccines and safe school reopenings comports with progressivism properly understood. It's not progressive to give money to the rich they're using really fancy titles to pretty much say save up yeah better save up killer bees killer bees economic plan i mean shit at least they would at least that's a plan rather than like just sort of obscuring the fact that you're about to be just enact mass cruelty on the country and but by that point it was too late the study had gained so much momentum and was like the basis of so many like opinion pieces and segments on like all the networks like you know like no one like was free of this uh this study but then you come to find out they start adding sort of like their methodologies for this study and it's fucking flawed.

Right. You know what I mean? Like the first one is the income data that they use to even to extrapolate who's going to spend and won't spend. It comes from using zip code level income data, which actually is a very it removes all nuance of who lives in a zip code. Not everyone. It's not a monolith of one income and who lives there we should be immediately suspicious because it's not like this hasn't been studied already there's plenty of peer-reviewed studies out there about like what giving people money does and the

majority of peer-reviewed studies says like contradicts what this one very specific hastily thrown together study says and it's it's like yeah but they needed that to say the thing they they wanted to say so like that's the that's the reason we went with one study as opposed to the scientific consensus yeah the majority of peer-reviewed studies is this but according to this non-peer-reviewed study from mark zuckerberg right giving poor people money bad like fuck and then you know on top of it there there's like this whole salt cap for this tax cap that democrats are talking about repealing which would benefit like the 85 of the benefits of repealing this cap would go to the top five percent of earners and this is what the democrats are talking about right now in the ways and means committee talking

about like well how can we do this and actually we'll offset that by raising the taxes and the other just like that's not how that's going to work like people are going to lose out because of this cap so that you have the media just really focused on this one thing while not really bringing up that they're doing the same thing of letting the money, you know, continue to flow upward to the rich while removing any sort of support from progressive tax codes that we could have. Yeah. It seems very clear to us that the world is being run by a very small group of extremely wealthy people. But I think we're at the beginning of the roaring 20s right now. And then when the big crash or uprising, whatever it takes, happens, that'll be years on. Because you still see like all the story like andrew yang is winning like for mayor like it's all just billionaires man people fucking

love billionaires they just trust billionaires there's like some residual trust left over from whatever like the rich equals good thing from the early 21st century was. Right. Rich equals smart. The GameStop thing was so scary for them, too. It was like a little crack in the armor of like, oh, shit. If enough poor people or middle-income people get together and make a plan, they can enact real financial change.

And we don't want that. Come on. Don't say collectivism on the air don't let people start googling that shit yeah we're eventually gonna get to the place where people are like okay billionaires like should be inherently mistrusted like that there is a inherent flaw in any human mind that is willing to accumulate that much wealth. I think with broadcast television mainstream news, it's because you have gazillionaires on the networks where millionaires

tell you the news. That's why I watch Newsmax. Exactly. You can tell by the suits, they're not doing that great. Well, speaking of people loving them a billionaire, Elon Musk has a new internet service that is being pitched in the mainstream media

as his solution to the fact that you can't get broadband uh out into the countries or to underserved communities so this is going to use uh satellites low flying satellites the starlink product uh and it's part of elon musk's spacex uh uses a series of satellites that communicate directly with a dish you purchase. So you don't need fiber optic cables or other infrastructural hurdles. It does cost, as I mentioned, up top $99 a month. Okay. And the dish costs $500.

But now hear us out here. Okay. It's not going to work for me. Right, that's a no for me, dog. A cool American Idol reference by me, by the way. I love it. I still use it all the time, Jack. It's not even American Idol.

It's just accepted, like, just vernacular. Yeah, it's like, know what I mean, Vern, at this point. Not that cool. Yeah, it's like, know what I mean, Vern. Yeah, not that cool. But it is causing some controversy because the satellites, it's not like a handful of satellites. It is 40,000 satellites that they're going to launch. So our sky will be swarming with these satellites and that will make it difficult to impossible for people to observe any asteroids that are might hit Earth, which is an existential crisis, an existential threat. This is how we die.

Like, I feel like we like scientists will hear when a scientist is like, oh, there is a there's one that would end life on the planet that's going to come within uh you know a couple hundred miles so uh check that out but like we don't you know it's not because of the way the human mind is wired we're not like aware that that is something that is constantly going on in the background that people are like always looking for a asteroid that's going to kill us all. Nearest objects, right. Yeah. What is his goal? I mean, again, I don't trust billionaires,

so I can't, it's just hard for me to believe that he just really wants everyone to have internet. I don't, I just can't. So what is the sinister end goal to filling the sky with little satellites with the most 90s name, Starlink. Starlink. It's a WWW on your computer.

Yes, exactly. Starlink. I remember. Didn't you guys have a Starlink account? It was right after, what was it, CompuServe? Yeah. By the way, speaking of 90s words, wasn't it cool that Britney's

best friend and assistant her last name was Coolada like the Starbucks she was actually my favorite part of the thing I want to know more about Felicia and Britney's I just want to see the world through her eyes her description of the channel

and taking the train we took a train that went of the channel and like taking the train she was like we took a train that went under the ocean and it was a train y'all it was like we're so excited she's like in her like little paul frank monkey t-shirt just the coolest thing we ever did just the coolest thing i just love it uh something so pure. Anyway. Anyways. So what's his end game here? His end game is to use this very expensive product to fund his missions to Mars. He knows that those are going to be expensive. He is planning to. I knew he was interested in Mars, but he's got like some Bond villain type shit cooking up.

He's interested in Mars, but he's got some Bond villain type shit cooking up. He wants to have a city on the planet Mars by 2050 that will be libertarian and will be ruled by him. So he's basically trying to create a Mars city, a Martian. And why am I legitimately worried he'll be able to do it? Like I'm convinced that you can just like own space if you have enough money and no one will stop you. Yeah.

So there's a, yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a thing called the outer space treaty that says like, you can't do that. Like international law applies, uh,

on Mars as well as the moon, as well as all other, uh, parts of space. Um, but Uranus, yeah uranus even uh but he is he is in in the uh user agreement for starlink there is something that asks people to agree that there is no uh nobody has jurisdiction over mars and that he does that he can basically create a his own planet it asks simply put declaring mars as a free planet uh is

essentially so he's saying dibs on mars yes it by getting people to sign up to this and it's also it's got wild stop the steel vibes where like trump was raising money off of this effort i mean like he wasn't really going to spend the money on that and this in the same way he's like i have this thing i'm a dangle but i'm gonna use that money for this other thing thank you and also when we've talked about broadband and the issues that we have in this country with broadband i mean yes there are huge infrastructural problems but a lot of the people who are underserved from wi-Fi actually live in just cities, too. Yes.

Because of lack of access, because that shit is too expensive. So it's like you're half solving a half problem while also fully funding your Mars fuckfest. Right. This would be a dope thing to introduce as a thing that everybody had access to. Yeah, we're not 500 down. Right. Like this would be a dope thing to introduce like as a thing that everybody had access to like and do it in 500 down. Right. Yeah. But he's doing it to fund his Mars country because he's a billionaire. That's how a billionaire's mind works is that they're going to accumulate as much wealth and power as they possibly can. they possibly can uh so he wants to colonize mars and his plans are uh that he wants to have people like it's going to cost you a million dollars to get to mars uh but then when you get there you can get a job at spacex to work off the million dollar debt oh my indentured martian

martian servitude is his plan. Fuck you, bro. Yeah. I mean, this is the dude who everybody... This is the dude who everybody... This dude, people... Like, I hear people quote this dude like he is fucking Confucius. Like, it is the most frustrating shit how much people love billionaires right now.

Show me the billionaire that wants to live under the ocean. That's tight. Give me like a king some King Triton motherfucker who's like I'm gonna build a bubble under the ocean and live under there. Like that's dope. And anybody

if you're down to live that underwater under to see life come through is free baby. Please. Thank you. I'm just looking for friends to chill with me in the kingdom. I would also like to take a water slide down there instead of like whatever uncomfortable ass shit is going to be taking people to mars give me a water slide that goes to your undersea kingdom i will serve you king or it's like a thing like uh at that atlantis resort where you take like a water slide that

like goes yeah into the ground but it's like a clear tunnel and you actually descend 40 000 feet under under sea level exactly but then you have to figure out the science so you don't get the bends and the pressure change don't fuck you up and then you like kind of get out the tube like oh shit yeah i'm like i'm here yeah and the first ticket goes to britney's old assistant because she loves being in a tube oh my god yes yeah two honorary first tickets to Felicia and Brittany. You know, my favorite thing too is like in his Mars colony, I mean, he must realize it's going to be all white men up there, right?

Like it's going to be a fucking nerd fest of just billionaires who are like, I don't, they're going to have to ship women up there for them to reproduce. Yeah. Yeah. Free ticket from Mars to you, girl. You want to join me?

Yikes. Uh, Amy, yeah, the worst. Amy, it's been a pleasure having you, uh,

the best, uh, having you, where can people, uh, find you, follow you, experience you where can people uh find you follow you experience you uh follow me on twitter amy miller instagram amy miller comedy and i have some videos and stuff up there and that's my podcast who's your god is also good very good um and is there a tweet or

some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes this is a tweet i really enjoyed on sunday from mia galoppo who i guess is a writer for the hollywood reporter and she said this super bowl could have been an email and that really spoke to me as someone getting exhausted from every communication now having to look at me in my home not you guys you guys are great i love to look at me in my home. Not you guys. You guys are great. I love to look at you. So glad you can see me. That could be an email problem. So many things can just be an email at this point. Like, I don't need to FaceTime you.

Just leave me alone. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Instagram, Twitter, Miles of Grey, at Miles of Grey, technically. And then check out 420 Days Beyonce, the other pod, talking about 90 Day and Married at First and married at first i just you know a little trash tasting menu if you will um some tweets that i like first was from super producer anna hosney at anna hosney saying i only very

recently realized that connor mcgregor isn't a tom hardy character i totally saw that shit um another one is from nicole byer at nicole Byer Why yes I went on a mass date today In a park I was wearing a giant medical boot Yes oh baby you know it Did my wig slide back far enough That I had to catch it before the gust of wind Claimed it as her own

Oh yes yes it did She's back baby I just love that one And actually the song of the day Is actually a tweet that I like But I'll get to that love that one Actually the song of the day is actually a tweet That I like but I'll get to that when we get To the song You can find me on Twitter At Jack underscore O'Brien

Couple tweets I've been enjoying At Tweet Potato 314 tweeted Kool-Aid man dying halfway through a cartwheel And Mike Scully tweeted a story from his childhood. 57 years ago today, my family and seven-year-old me watched the Beatles on Ed Sullivan

and my dad said, quote, Jesus Christ, get a load of these assholes. That's so good. Oh, man. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. What is that song? Okay, so this song was a tweet i saw from at i still love her underscore and this the tweet she puts this elementary school band playing stakes is high is the feel good content i needed today and it's these little kids playing de la soul's stakes is high like you can tell their teacher is so dope because he's got like a jay dilla projection in

the background obviously this beat was co-produced by dilla so it was just it's just cool to see like this moment where like kids are like jamming like and they're not the best musicians but there's no matter if you play music or not you can relate to like the joy of someone creating and like children doing it and it's it's just pure it's happiness so you're gonna hear it but definitely check out the tweet i'll retweet that and just enjoy i'm sure somebody could give me a quote of like if these kids are like when you were this age like the beatles or like chubby checker was as old as that de la sol beat is or whatever right right right that would make me turn into dust and blow away but i won't i won't do the math right uh all right well the daily zeitgeist

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