The Daily Zeitgeist - We Sometimes Finish Each Others' Sandwiches 1/21: Lindsey Halligan, Usha Vance, Trump @ Davos

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

In this edition of We Sometimes Finish Each Others' Sandwiches, Jack and Miles discuss Lindsey Halligan leaving her post as US attorney after being completely unqualified, Usha Vance gregnant?, Trump'...s embarrassing appearance at Davos and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of we sometimes finish each other's trendwitches. That one courtesy of Infinite Jost, who was just two people, new Chris and Infinite Jost. just thought of the same idea at the same time and he said finish each other sandwiches, but I had to honor it with a trending name.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is Jack O'Brien that over there is Mr. Miles Gray. Yep, yep, yep. This is the episode where we tell you what is trending on this Wednesday afternoon. We're going to get to Trump's Davos speech. First, just some good news, I guess. I don't know. Lindsay Halligan, it's kind of nice to see.
Starting point is 00:03:00 These people who come in, chest puffed out, you know, doing Trump's bidding. We got Lindsay Halligan, who was the attorney that Trump met at a, like, party of Mar-a-Lago. She was an insurance attorney. Mm-hmm. But more importantly, a beauty pageant contestant. A beauty pageant contestant who he was fond of her look. He was like, she got the look. got the look that we're all after here.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So Mar-Lago face over anything else. She gets brought in to lead the prosecution of like one of his most specious attempts that like taken out an enemy. Yeah, James Comey. And not up to the job. No. We chronicled everything from how she was lying to the grand jury to trying you. Just all this stuff that you would do if you don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:03:57 And that's precisely where she's at. And it got to the point where, you know, a judge is like, I'm sorry, like, I don't know why you keep showing up in here. I said, you are serving as U.S. attorney in a fucking illegal manner. You are not, that you are not qualified. You, that's, they just told you you are that. But functionally in this court, you are just some lady. So now, apparently, it's reached the end. and Pam Bondi
Starting point is 00:04:26 she's had to hook him come on bring in the left hand or reliever because sorry Halligan ain't finishing this one she posted that she's like she's done a it's a significant this is what Bondi said about Halligan leave it's a significant loss for the department
Starting point is 00:04:40 and that she will quote continue to serve her country in other ways right like being an insufferable racist or something like that so that should be fine but yeah I think it's just wild to see that because Lindsay Halligan was basically telling the judge like nah uh Every time he was like, I'm sorry, you were not qualified.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You were put in this position in an illegal fact. You are actually serving illegally. So if you show up again and you sign your name as U.S. attorney, there are going to be fucking consequences. Like you won't even be able to do fucking insurance law, fucking anything. So that was it. And so she brought spiciness instead of any sort of legal rationale. The judge, News of Halligan's departure came hours after a federal judge issued
Starting point is 00:05:23 a withering ruling calling out Halligan's decision to use unusually sharp language earlier this month as she pushed back on the judge's questioning of her authority saying the unnecessary rhetoric had a level of vitriol more appropriate for a cable news talk show. Yeah, you've diagnosed it, Judge. That's what they're all fucking educated. That's all their socializing process is watching vitriolic cable news. That's right. We have bad news that is kind of a new type of bad news.
Starting point is 00:05:55 There's a lot of bad news in the world, but at least most of it isn't predicated on the idea of J.D. Vance having sex. But unfortunately, despite rumors of an impending split, Urshur Vance just announced that she and J.D. are expecting a baby. Yeah. It's, man, I've, I mean, actually, no, I think I have felt bad for an unborn child before. but just thinking about some of my younger, my younger days when we were young, like when we were young, if we were having kids.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I'm like, oh, okay, okay, okay, all right. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. But yeah, this one, the guy who is so outwardly, obviously a bad dad, like checked out, looks at his kids, his inconveniences, things that, like all of this is the mother's problem.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Amidst the speech he gave at that turning point event. And he's like, God, I wish you just fucking praise. Christ already. Yeah, yeah. It sounds like a lot of love in that home. It's usually a good move when things are rocky like that to just have a baby that usually solves it.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Do you think this is a problem? Like, what do you think this is? Do you think it's them being like, hey, we got to shore up the optics here. We're a together family. Now that I think about it, Erica Kirk's not going to make a good wife for me. So, Lucia, I'm still sticking by you. Let's have another one, huh? Let's just do something crazy, huh?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Maybe it's Jesse Waters' baby. we don't know. There's people, you know, we could speculate until the cows come home, but just a little piece of fathering advice from J.D. Vance. If they have a tantrum of a public place, I immediately grabs them,
Starting point is 00:07:30 take them to the bathroom and say, you got to cut the shit out. This way, yeah. He will be the first vice president to father a child while in office since 1870 when Ulysses S. Grant's vice president Skyler Colfax. old Skyla Colfax
Starting point is 00:07:49 No And his wife Ellen When he was that name And a dog Schuyler Colfax Skyla Colfax All right
Starting point is 00:07:56 And his wife Ellen gave birth to a son And I mean Not saying that this could be A premonition of anything to come But Colfax was dumped from the ticket When Grant sought re-election Not due to his having a baby in office
Starting point is 00:08:09 But due to the credit Mobileer scandal Of 1872 A quaintor time When politicians faced consequences when they were suspected of accepting shares of stock and cash bribes from Credit Mobelier, a dummy construction company set up by Union Pacific Railroad. He later died in a train station after walking almost a mile in extreme cold during a speaking tour.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I just want to read this from just the irony too. you got dumped for taking bribes from the Union Pacific Railroad Company and then you die at a train station. Omaha, this is from We're history on Skyland Colfax. Okay. The Omaha Line Depot from which the next leg of his journey would depart was about three quarters of a mile away. Should have been working on those railroads. So they had direct connections instead of having to walk from station to station. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Despite a reported temperature of 30 degrees below zero, Colfax walked from one station to the other. Upon arriving at the Omaha Line Depot, Colfax entered the waiting station, looked at a map on the wall, sat down and died. No one in the station knew who the dead man was until they searched his pockets
Starting point is 00:09:26 and found a letter with his name on it. His death was likely caused by a heart attack brought on by physical exertion of walking a mile in the extreme cold. All right. I think we need a presidential ice walk. Show everybody. You can fall pretty far from being the vice president to just dying anonymously after sitting down in a train station. Sir, people are doubting your virility.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I say we prove the doubters wrong and walk all the way to the train station right now. Okay, Penn Station, we're going. Come on. Get your jacket on. It's minus 40. Let's do it. Let's make sure it's real cold. That's just like, and also the way that death is described, it's like,
Starting point is 00:10:10 like the kind of death in a book. You know what I mean? It's very like literary where it's like and then he he got to the, like he got to his destination, check the map. Check the map. It was like I'm in the right place. And I may go.
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Starting point is 00:15:00 First of all, Air Force One had to do a U-turn shortly after picking off reportedly due to a minor electrical issue. Were you on the internet when that happened? No. Oh, man. Was it like a mini when he had COVID? We were like, yo. people were slowly fading up the dance music. Because someone posted a screencap of the flight tracker of Air Force One and this like bizarre U-turn in the middle of the Atlantic, you're like,
Starting point is 00:15:27 people thought it was that episode from Succession. Yeah, yep, yep, people did. People did. And I thought it was my favorite Jamaican patois phrase come to life. Blood plot. But no. So yeah, it was apparently a electrical issue. So he finally got there and his speech was predictably unhinged.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It started with his call for immediate negotiations with Denmark about acquiring Greenland, claiming that he won't use force because he won't have to and then immediately contradictory stating we probably won't get anything unless I decided to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable. Wow. Yeah, so you think. there's a lot of articles coming out like from like like from a military perspective like no you're you're not going to want to try that with just just generally like it will cut like it will be disaster for everyone who are our allies in the in his mind the sydia the mike pillow is the my pillow guy mike lindel kind of spread out i feel like geography yeah yeah can't can't ball it up into a mighty fist i guess he'd have russia probably at this point um but then then he threatened Canada and prime minister
Starting point is 00:16:42 Mark Carney in a way that was like very WW. He said Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, adding that it should be grateful to the United States. Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements. I mean, he gave a pretty good speech of saying like, we're not in a trans, we're in a rupturing right now.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Mark Carney did. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, you know what? Appeasement is not going to work. Okay. and if we don't have each other's back, like do not fall victim to the country that has the military and financial might,
Starting point is 00:17:19 we, the middle powers have to come together and have a seat at the table because if we're not at the table, we're on the menu, is what I said and like, you know, got standing ovation and everyone. Because yeah, this is truly such a punctuation in history right now where America has completely fallen by the wayside.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You have a person leading the country who is so obviously unfit to even fucking to sit down and talk to people and have a coherent conversation with and I think this was probably I mean it was one of those moments
Starting point is 00:17:51 where I think in the U.S. We're always like, God, this guy's fuck. He's goo brain. He's goo brain. But I think with all of the attention happening because of the blustering over Greenland and having to take the stage
Starting point is 00:18:04 when he's supposedly supposed to project all this fucking bravado and strength and all this shit and he verbally shits the bed like that. It's just an odd moment. And everyone's like kind of doing the version of like, is this your man's? Yes, that's your man's right there?
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's him? We haven't even gotten to the big bed shitting that has made headlines, which is that he repeatedly referred to Greenland as Iceland. Which is a mistake that I've definitely, you know, I've confused the two before. People are like, Iceland is actually warmer than Greenland. Greenland is not very green and very,
Starting point is 00:18:38 I saw Mighty Ducks too also. I saw D-2. He's making a mighty ducks too mix up. Right. It's all ice and green and green and ice. Isn't that weird, folks? I think so. Claimed that Icelanders slash green lenders
Starting point is 00:18:51 call him daddy. Yeah, this was a very odd, I don't know, just a weird moment. Again, he's speaking to the world economic forum. So you have, this isn't a room full of fucking, you know, army generals who are willing to be like, it's just people who are completely,
Starting point is 00:19:08 aghast at what this guy's saying. So this one is they call me daddy. Europe, I'm helping NATO and I've, until the last few days when I told him about Iceland. He means Greenland. They loved me. They called me daddy, right? Last time.
Starting point is 00:19:24 What? Very smart man said, he's our daddy. He's running it. I was like running it. I went from running it to being a terrible human being. Right, David. They're from running. They called me daddy. They call me daddy. Yeah, I guess. And then like, yeah, I mean, it was just one mistake.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Just more fucking weird racism. He brought in like Minneapolis into it. He's like, the Somalis, I don't know how they got so much money doing this fraud. They got low IQs. So I don't know how that happened. He also said, if it weren't for America, a lot of you guys would be speaking German and maybe a little Japanese. Just everything he could do to humiliate himself and the United States. He did.
Starting point is 00:20:08 He basically did that. I mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday because of Iceland. So Iceland's already cost us a lot of money. So he's, I don't think Iceland or Greenland is the reason for the dip. I think it's maybe a loss in confidence of you and you're starting to hear about it for the first time from some people who up to this point have been like, yes, Daddy, keep going, Daddy. You're making us money. I mean, I think, you know, we were talking about it yesterday. The fact that it's touching people's pockets is now,
Starting point is 00:20:42 it's going to affect everyone issue, according to the media. And that is clearly the only pain point Donald Trump can experience is a loss of money. Or, you know, or going indirectly after all of his oligarch supporters and come for their pockets too, because that'll create some kind of pressure on Trump. I mean, that's seemingly what the blueprint would be for countries trying to be like, How do we get the, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, let's threaten them with money stuff, because that's their only God right now. Everyone's going to feel it, meaning the only people who matter in the United States
Starting point is 00:21:17 when it comes to how decisions are made, which is the extremely wealthy in corporations. And even then they'll probably be able to insulate themselves. If there's like a financial bazooka the EU does and a bunch of tech companies go down, we're all going to feel that downstream when those companies lose that. No, we're definitely, but everybody has been feeling it. It's just the consequences of that have not been reaching him because he plans to cancel the midterm elections. And so he's just like, we're good here. But now with his latest kind of just being publicly, kinetically unfit for office in a way that seems borderline unthinkable as recently as, you know, a couple weeks ago to some of these people, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I think people are like, this is bad. Like all the, all the thing, like the U.S. currency that has basically staked to the entire global economy, that fact has been bailing the U.S. out for a long time and the fact that everybody is losing confidence in the United States at a rapid rate is going to make things economically way more difficult for the U.S. Everything, all of that quote unquote might was built on the strength of the dollar and the military, the U.S. the U.S. military and like the threat of American imperialism basically. And now, I mean, people realize, oh, yeah, there is a way to do death with by a thousand cuts to the United States. And this guy is only like, he's not doing the country any favors by going over there and being like, you guys fucking owe me everything.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Give me that. Right. Like looking like a freak. Then, again, just a few other moments. Like, he was slurring his words again. They're all caused by this horrible president. Okay. What about all the,
Starting point is 00:23:08 and then he's like, what about all the wars I stopped? You guys ever thank me for those? This one, I forget what country this is. I can't quite remember what the country is, but here it is. And I've now been working on this war for one year,
Starting point is 00:23:23 during which time I settled eight other wars, India, Pakistan. I've been, I settled other wars that were, Vladimir Putin, called me, Armenian, Aberbayjan. He said, I can't believe you settled that one. They were going on for 35 years. Aberbaijan.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Abberbaijan. A true statesman. Yeah. I mean, like at this point, it's like all of our laughs are like gallows humor because like, this man has the nuclear codes. This man can send the entire planet into financial ruin because he's unfit for office. but anyway so...
Starting point is 00:24:01 Ryan the editor asked an important question here what do you think the strategy is here as he's coming through you know mispronouncing things why do you think
Starting point is 00:24:12 he mixed up Greenland and Iceland and that was it was that just like him big dog in Greenland by being like I can't even remember
Starting point is 00:24:19 your name just sund sunned Denmark like that unbelievable sir unbelievable or you've never had anyone
Starting point is 00:24:26 pushed back against your entire life and now that you're slipping into darkness. It's just coming on the fucking strangest ways where geopolitical factors and forces don't exist because you just exist, you exist in your fantasy world. You can fucking say all this shit and think nothing's going to happen. And I think, unfortunately, we're seeing the rest of the world be like, okay, so we're going to move on from that freaky neighbor who's throwing shit everywhere, but has like way too many guns.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Let's just kind of like ignore them for a little bit. Let's just not let their destiny dictate ours right now. Yeah. I mean, people are public, like, so there is a Republican, a congressperson who's like, this is bad guys. We need to take another look at this guy. There's Ty Cobb, his January 6th lawyer has used his opportunity to be like, Trump's decline is palpable. There's a lot of, a lot of that from some former, like, people who don't face immediate consequences. Yeah. I mean, like for a guy who's as absolute disgrace as a lawyer. This is the really interesting thing
Starting point is 00:25:30 is because Trump's so bad now, there's the Overton window is just, again, gone. So all these people can be like, oh my gosh, I mean, can you believe this guy? As you, Tai Cab. Adjur, you had, you were the hit king until Pete Rose came along. He just broke your record.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Although they said, if you counted each year's hits in Japan, it would be more. But again, that's Japan. But here's Tyrus Raymond Kopp. talking about Trump's senility. No, I think there's been a significant decline. He's always been driven by narcissism, but I think the dementia and the cognitive decline are palpable,
Starting point is 00:26:08 as do many experts, including many physicians. So more and more people in public being like, Yikes, guys. Stephanie Grisham. Oh, Stephanie Richem. Yeah, remember her? I don't expect you to because she was only the press secretary for nine months. But in his first term, she was press secretary.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Terry. This is what she said about, like a lot of the commentary is talking about a press conference Trump had on Tuesday, which we'll also cover. Yeah, we'll get into that. Because it kind of got missed a little bit because of this one. Because of everything. But this specific press conference, Stephanie Grisham is talking about is the one year, like one year into the second term press conference that happened Tuesday. Well, this pressure is bizarre, even for him. It's all the usual rambling off topic tales, half truth's lies, quote, I fixed everything. No one has ever seen anything like it stuff. but it's a low energy and it feels like he's mentally slipping. Wait, what? Congress, please wake up.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Please PLZ. PLZ. Why are you being cute with that? Congress, please wake up. Please, please. That's when it's like, when people get all cutesy with that something like when we're talking about
Starting point is 00:27:18 something existential. This is going to be in the history books. Please just write the whole fucking word out. You get it. Yeah, yeah. I do wonder, like, is J.D. Vance starting to make clans behind the scenes? Like, on, on the one hand, he lacks courage, a chin, backbone behaves like a well-trained dog. But on the other... Yeah, he's shaped like a, he's a glowworm, I think, is what you just described. He's got no... He has always shown a willingness to do whatever the fuck it takes to get to power. Like, that does seem to be his one thing is just like shape shift in the direction.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. of the warm glow of power. You have to assume he's at least having conversations with people. Oh, yes. You know, you know, because anyone who interacts with Trump now goes off to the side and goes,
Starting point is 00:28:10 what the fuck? Right. And they're like, but I can't fucking say anything. And they're like, I know, dude, I know we're figuring out, we're figuring it out,
Starting point is 00:28:16 we're figuring it out. And yeah, he would feel like the natural person to succeed because he's vice president and also is the chosen water carrier for Silicon Valley and all the tech oligarchs. So, you know, that's pretty much, I feel like that could be it. And maybe he's like, Usha, we're having another baby. Because you're about to be first lady, Usha Vance, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't know what it's going to take for that point to come. But like, if you look at the polling, right, 70% of the country says the country is going out of control under Trump. and only 18% say it's going okay. So as those numbers, I mean, I don't know, again, we don't know their calculus with the midterms. We've heard about a lot of doge fuckery and accessing social security information to potentially lead to like a vote purge
Starting point is 00:29:07 and things like that. So like they're probably thinking about how they can rat fuck the midterms. But if the polling gets bad enough and the public sentiment is bad enough, I think we're really going to see where they're at. Like if they just go, they all have his back because they're like, dude,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I don't care how far gone this guy is. We need his rubber stamp of his signature to do all the bucked up things we need to do before the gates slam shut on us. Because I just, I don't know, it'd be just at this point, I can't believe they'd be like, all right, guys, you got us.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like the tech oligarchs are bad kings of masters of the universe to have on this case because they have been gaming out the apocalypse like kind of wishfully. You know, they've been, I always go back to that conversation where somebody who consults with these people about like the future and like after AI takes over, which, you know, they thought was going to happen. And after their wealth hoarding ruins the planet, you know, they had conversations about like so, okay, here's here's the question though.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. Do you shoot the pilot who you hire to take your family to the island? because otherwise he's going to come back. He can fly. Tell everybody who the island is. Yeah. And then I got to defeat people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I mean, it's just an extension of their thinking now, which is everything, there's no abundance. It's a zero-sum game. I'm going to have mine because I'm not giving it to you. Right. And I think it's,
Starting point is 00:30:39 I mean like Douglas Rushkoff when he was on, the guy who wrote Survival of the Richest. Yeah, he had some crazy anecdotes. The one I'm talking about is like published. Like there's, like, it's sourced. to somebody who is like, you know, a hundred millionaire who's been in those circles.
Starting point is 00:30:56 He was talking. Just so you know, this is what these people are talking about. Yeah, because I remember when Douglas was on, he was basically saying it's all some form of, they all talk about what do you do with the workers once you get there. And also, which workers do you keep to fix the things in the bunker when things go wrong? Because I damn sure, I'm not going to go to trade school right now. Not me. But, yeah, I mean, they are, they're all gay. I mean, the same thing with even like the, you think about the East Wing and the bunker Trump's building.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. It's all bunkers, baby. And I think maybe that's the trades people of good morals. Make sure you build fail safes and things into this infrastructure so that if people need to get caught, they can get caught. That's right. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, January 21st. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show.
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