The Daily Zeitgeist - WE STAND WITH ORCAS, GOP’s Unpopular Populism 05.25.23

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

In episode 1490, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Black People Love Paramore, Sequoia Holmes, to discuss... Nikki Haley’s Transphobia Not Poppin Off in New Hampshire, But People Are Pushing Back On This Wave of Hate, Orcas Are Sinking Boats off Portugal In Unprecedented Coordinated Attacks and more! Nikki Haley’s Transphobia Not Poppin Off in New Hampshire (Clip) But People Are Pushing Back On This Wave of Hate Target becomes latest company to suffer backlash for LGBTQ+ support, pulls some Pride month clothing Orcas Are Sinking Boats off Portugal In Unprecedented Coordinated Attacks First orca found washed up on coast of Britain in 20 years as scientists say it had plastic in its stomach Five dead after boat ‘flipped over by large whale’ LISTEN: Bluff by Yunè PinkuSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There you go stack is tap dancing gonna come back i feel like every time i see tap dancing in an old movie and they're really like doing it well i'm always like man that shit is cool did it ever go away i don't know if it yeah maybe it just never went away but like tap dancing in movies yeah what was the last movie that had like a real where they just solved a conflict with some tap dance la la land is there tap dancing a little bit of tap dancing oh yeah there was probably some tap dancing that's why that's why it went away i mean it's i think it's on tiktok i've been watching there's like this black girl who's an amazing irish step dancer and like killing it

like to the point where you're like oh no it's like you're changing the game of Irish step dancing. So it's alive and well. I would say. Yeah. For sure. The fancy footwork is exploding in the NBA. Why not on TikTok? Absolutely.

My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Whoa. Never let the zeitgang down. That is just in my head this morning when I woke up. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. You know what? I have an AK that also I just thought up in my twilight of half waking up this morning. And here we go.

I've been thinking about you. Way star. Roll Royco. I just want to merge you with my gojo. Yes, I'm Lucas Madsen. Oh, you heard about blood spill. Do you? Do you? Oh, do you not think so far ahead?

Because I just sent my blood to Ebba. All I could just think of is, I just send my blood to emma oh man what a weird plot point for that character but anyway i know shout out frank ocean and that had to have come from some weird ceo behavior you know oh yeah i i'm sure that came out of someone's like like autobiography i just thought it would be funny if i started freezing blocks of my blood and sending them out in the mail. Yes, man. We were just listening to an acapella version of that song yesterday and they didn't go for it. They didn't go high. They were cowards. They were cowards. You nailed it. I'm so impressed. Look, that's one of the few things i can do sometimes is a falsetto and i think hearing those cowards in that college acapella group not go for the falsetto for

frank ocean that's those absolute spineless cowards that's a coward move yeah fuck well miles a little housekeeping up top uh we're gonna keep telling people that we are trying a new publication schedule out for the summer. First time in the history of the show. We're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes a week and use that extra bandwidth to try some new episode formats out to kind of keep things fun. You know, you might hear a musical episode somewhere in the future. Yeah. Maybe.

We'll see. But for you you the listener the difference will be one episode on friday one episode on monday and then yeah we'll be doing some different things on tuesday's episode it's gonna be fun i think you guys are gonna like it you're gonna love it trust and also we are using these new formats to try and hear a little bit more from the listeners. We have great relationships with you guys on Twitter and the Discord. So we want to hear from you on the show and of course in the AKAs where the true stars of the AKA section are the listeners. But we want

to hear about your jobs. We want to hear what's something interesting about your job. What's the craziest thing that ever happened to you on your job what's something most people misunderstand about your job hit us at daily zeitgeist on twitter in the discord let us know can keep it anonymous can yeah or or not we'll use your full name and social security number whatever you want whatever you want yeah so that's a lot of housekeeping up top thank you to our guest for sitting patiently by while we do all of that we are thrilled to be joined by a hilarious pop culture expert who hosts the show black people love paramore they do it's sequoia hilarious it's such a stretch i don't even want to set that expectation i was listening to some episodes though but thank you i do appreciate it thank you for joining us yeah we're happy to have you when did

you get the i gotta ask you when did you get the idea for the podcast because i remember there was like a nylon article years ago that was like yo black people love paramore and yeah i'll tell you black and these people love paramore too, because I fuck with Paramore heavy. You know, I got the idea after that Nylon article. I'm aware of it now, but I got the idea when my roommate, a white woman who I've lived with for 10 years, we don't live together now for the first year, but we did 10 years ago.

She said that she hated Paramore. And personally, I felt like that was anti-Black. And so I decided, you know what? I'm going to give us the representation we desire. Black people love Paramore. Yeah. And on the podcast, you talk about many other things. It's not always specifically like Paramore.

It's almost like never Paramore, honestly. We talk about a whole bunch of other stuff. Tony Hawk, anime. The Hills, Degrassi. I'm going to name The Hills, Degrassi. Huge for Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk. Yeah. Yeah, Hayley too. I started off a Hayley fan. Degrassi huge for Tony Hawk Tony Hawk yeah yeah Haley too

you know I started off a Haley fan I think also that was Misery Business that just it started off in a way that I was like what this is a rock song

and then I'm like let's go it has a little groove to it you get into it you're like oh okay yeah yeah yeah

exactly exactly Phil Collins I was surprised by Phil Collins yes yeah yeah yeah cool amazing well we're thrilled to have you we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about in the news section nicki haley's transphobia is not working everywhere. It's working some places. Yeah, scary.

But it's kind of a specific take that doesn't work with independents. So we're going to listen to some audio from a Nikki Haley rally. Open mic. Yeah, open mic. She sounds like a comic. Yeah, just working material. We'll talk about Moms for Liberty, which you'll be surprised to learn is a fascist organization that is attacking school boards, is like astroturfed, you know, a bunch of dark money going into this and how people are actually fighting back against this bullshit. It's working. Yeah.

Some good news. People fighting back and it's working. Some other good news. Whales are fighting back or dolphins. Orcas are sinking boats uh off portugal and unprecedented coordinated attacks uh the new york times is calling them sailboats but there's a lot of yachts a lot of yachts going down yeah new york times doesn't want anybody to like get any class consciousness involved with this but nah yeah they're they're sinking big sailing vessels, sometimes known as yachts.

So we'll just talk about all of that. Plenty more. But first, Sequoia, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay. So about a year ago, there was a moment that went viral that was very old. It was Elmo on Jimmy Fallon, right? He was cooking and the person who voice acts Elmo slipped into the New York accent by accident. That resurfaced on my Twitter timeline, but it wasn't the actual clip. It was just a reference to it.

So I had to go search it because it truly had me on the floor for about five days straight when i first saw it i thought i was gonna pee my pants i could not breathe and if i really think about it too hard right now i'll i'll actually ruin this podcast and start laughing so yes if you have not seen that elmo clip the black elmo clip hilarious The funniest thing I've... Balsamic vinegar? It's so funny. Oh, is that? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now I gotta... How did this miss me? I don't know. Did Jimmy Fallon point it out, or is he...

He just keeps it moving. Elmo notices it and says, that's a big word for Elmo. It's so funny. I see someone... Wait, is someone just doing the voiceover? This is gross stuff, but it tastes good when it's put out together. I see someone. Wait, is someone just doing the voiceover? It's gross stuff, but it tastes good when it's put out together. Okay, good.

Onions, garlic. Onions, garlic, celery, balsamic vinegar. Tomato paste. It's a big word right now. Okay. Vinegar. You heard it. Balsamic vinegar.

Ah, ah, you know. Yo, Jimmy, word two. I need that balsamic vinegar. Very much that. How do we get here how did elmo get here the garlic already started off a little yeah yeah garlic garlic it was garlic and then it gets into balsamic vinegar and it's just hilarious so yes that was my most recent search i love the i love this one lip sync lip dub of it on tiktok where this woman's like saying running it down and when it gets a balsamic finish she got a bubble goose jacket on exactly got tim's on suddenly yeah exactly is the elmo voice somebody

like from new york like i think i think he was from philly if i'm not mistaken at the time i think elmo was voiced by a man from a black man from philly yeah correct me on that if i'm wrong he's actually from baltimore okay all right gotcha gotcha yeah uh what is something you think is overrated this one's very divisive people hate me for it. Cheese. Cheese is disgusting and it's on everything. Constantly. I've had enough. Let it go. I love the power of this take.

It's everywhere. If you can't cook your recipe without an abundance of cheese on top of it, you simply cannot cook. And we can leave it at that. That's very fine. Hold on. Walk me through this. So what are you encountering out there where you're like, what the fuck is all this cheese over here? I go to a restaurant.

I'm like, oh, can I have the broccolini you bring me broccolini with cheese on top of it why is there cheese on top of my vegetable that i didn't want that very good point oh like for you like i wanted a vegetable like i wanted a vegetable why is there cheese on top of it you bring me truffle fries why is there cheese on it because it didn't say that i just said truffle why why is there why is there cheese on my truffle fries i didn't want that right yeah just gotta be in the mood layer of cheese i will first of all gladly admit i can't cook and that's why i do a nice layer of cheese on like cereal in the morning yeah oh my god just no you should see he uses american cheese like like he's putting a sheet over a dead body he's

like okay just lays it on top of his food if we really want to talk about cereal too putting the milk first actually makes the most sense sorry i'm done oh wow wait talk to me about that no i like i love this wait why milk first and i love the give me just listen if we just want to talk about science okay it allows the cereal to stay crisp longer because all of it is not getting super wet. You throw the milk in first. It's cold. Okay. It has to be cold.

You put the cereal on top. Hopefully you don't have lukewarm milk out at your house. I mean, it has to be real cold. You could even put ice in if you want. That's a little egregious, but you could put ice in it if you want. And you put the cereal on top. Also cold. I keep the cereal refrigerated so that it stays crisp

for a long time don't wet it yeah you know how much milk because you've done it for your whole life if you're me and that's it and then you're doing little scoops of the milk as you like pull the cereal off the top pretty kind of digging down you get it oh so you're saying you got the you have the dry everything there's like the dry pile up top basically i don't like the way that you you said that but yes the dry pile just trying to help the listeners because it's very visual so the base layer which is contacting the milk do you ever do you scoop from the? Do you take from the bottom so it slowly moves down? You know what I mean?

You stab the cereal at an angle so that it goes straight down. Perpendicular. Perpendicular. It misses most of the cereal, gets into the milk, and you pick it back up. Okay. And then you're just taking the wet layer with each bite, but it's newly wet. And you're taking the newly wet, moist layer with each bite and putting it in your mouth for the most desirable experience that you can have with cereal. And what is your cereal of choice?

Captain Crunch, but no Crunch Berries. Wow. Someone's an adult. You know what I mean? Why would I need the Crunch Berries? Captain is good enough. No cheese on my broccolini, no Crunch Berries. none of that nothing with the seed yeah keep oh okay okay okay i see you keep the crunch berries yeah all right i feel like we've learned a lot that i i totally agree with you like i am a huge cheese fan i love i love a lot

of cheese on everything but the broccolini really fucks me up. Broccolini does not need it. And when they put it on, it's usually a sign that it's not going to be that good. 100%. Oh my gosh. I had clam chowder recently, which is one of my favorite foods with cheese in it.

And that also pissed me off. They put cheese? What? Manhattan or New England? Manhattan. Okay, that makes a little more sense. No, New England. No, sorry. yeah with cheese no and that also pissed me off cheese they put like it had like manhattan or new england manhattan manhattan okay that makes a little more sense no new england no sorry the white no the white the white the white it was like a in it was there was cheese in it i asked because i could taste it and i asked and they were like yeah they put a little why for why why i've never heard of that at all like what kind of cheese cheese? Like yellow cheese? No, it was a white cheese.

I don't know what kind, but it was a white cheese. I guess like broccoli cheddar is a cheesy soup. So maybe they were trying to bring, but that's a mess. They pissed me off. I was in D.C. Deservedly so. So D.C., you have to answer for that crime. Get your shit together.

Well, sometimes I'm looking at some recipes that say that there's cream cheese in a lot of clam chowder. There, that. It must have been cream cheese. But I've never tasted it before, and I could... Not to the point where you're like, it's fucking cheese. Cheesy clam chowder? Why? Right, I get that it's creamy, obviously. That's what we're gravitating towards, but the... Yeah, I don't...

Don't... No. Cheesy fish? Keep it. Yeah. Cream cheese and seafood is... I'm disgusting, you know. I like the filet-o-fish sandwich.'m disgusting you know i like a fish sandwich you know you know what that's people people people say that that's that's normal i guess with a slice of cheese oh yeah yeah gotta have that look again look different strokes for different folks yeah you have it i appreciate you fighting back your your desire to vomit from me i'm happy for you though miles yeah thank you thank you very diplomatic answer i appreciate that are you anti-cheese across the board or just like on

certain foods across the board anti-cheese i do like fake cheeses though like a nacho cheese sauce that you get from a movie theater love it actually one of my favorite process okay cheetos cheese dust you know i'll take that i love it i'm just looking at it you're like hey i brought out a little cheese board for y'all and you're like okay over here we have our canned nacho cheese this is some loose cheeto dust you can just dip your cracker into that i should do that for my birthday i'm gonna host like a little thing for my birthday i was gonna have a charcuterie board maybe i'll put fake cheeses on it just to troll people oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it'll bring it'll bring the elitist out of somebody like i'm somebody's gonna be hot absolutely this is not cheese and it's not it's not a lactose thing because you are one of the

foremost experts in how to consume milk with cereal so it's you don't have a problem with lactose you're out here eating new england clam chowder for god's sake one percent with my cereal if not an almond but i'll take a one percent if you have it yeah okay okay yeah keep your milk elite yeah you know what is something you think is underrated magnesium glycinate for sleeping That is so specific. Go on. Magnesium, sorry, what? Glycinate?

Magnesium glycinate specifically. Magnesium comes in different forms. You can get a bunch of different little endings. The glycinate one for sleeping in particular. Magnesium, the number one autocomplete for magnesium space in Google is glycinate. So it is us who are wrong. Followed by magnesium and cheese, which is funny. Mag and cheese.

Yeah, you get a little nice mag and cheese. Wait, so what is, where did you hear about it? What is, is it for helping? Is it like a sleep aid or what's going on? It is a sleep aid. I heard about it from the journal, the very scientific journal that I always consume, TikTok. And it helps you sleep,

but it doesn't help you get to sleep. It helps you get into a deeper sleep once you are asleep. So my whole life, I was like, I don't really dream that often. I'll like have dreams sometimes, but like not super often, maybe once every couple of weeks. Turns out i'm just not getting into REM sleep where dreams happen enough or staying in REM sleep long enough and magnesium glycinate allows me to stay into REM sleep for a long time so once i started taking it i started having these really intense dreams that

i thought were like hallucinations turns out that's normal and everybody has them I just wasn't dreaming like that before because I wasn't sleeping like that. So describe one of your dreams. It's like very normal. Like, okay, I had this one. I was, I had to give a speech at school and I was like, no, it's nothing like that. I had a dream. Oh my God. Okay. I had a dream that one of my friends who had just gone to Europe for his birthday for a month, I was watching his location on find my friends and i told him to come to where i was and so i'm watching him cross like the boot of italy on some some it's so random on some bridge he's going through the boot of italy to get to me somewhere also in europe yeah yeah yeah and it's like dark out there's like a lot of stars around. I'm with some person.

I don't know who they are. Stuff like that. Very just super random, but very vivid dreams. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to look into that. We're big dream heads on this podcast there. I feel like there are insights in there.

If you just like, you know, keep track of them and like, don't be too specific. Don't be like, oh, so I'm going to see my friend on a bridge on the boot but like there's you know i think there's power there coming from the unconscious part of our minds that i agree yeah i think that's the most powerful thing that humans have access to if you know how to use it so that's cool cool. Magnesium, glycinate, will get you dreaming. I'll combine that with my THC indica. That'll always do it.

Now that's the thing. I'm scared of forming a dependency, so I won't do it more than two nights in a row. So the other nights I'll do my magnesium, but yes,

definitely felt. Now the combo. The combo doesn't do anything. The combination made my eyes bleed. Yeah, the combination. The combination made my eyes bleed. Yes, thank you, Wu-Tang Clan. Yeah, it doesn't do anything. The combination made my eyes bleed. Yeah. The combination made my eyes bleed. Yes, thank you, Wu-Tang Clan. Yeah, it doesn't do anything.

I'm like, oh, this is like anticlimactic. Yeah, magnesium glycinate and THC. The combination made my eyes bleed. Now, I am not a doctor, so take this for what it's worth. But you are someone who uses TikTok. You know what I mean? Naturally. An ashwagandha supplement

plus magnesium glycinate plus a little thc will actually have you in a stupor you're you might not wake up from that i don't know well i'm seeing already like people are talking about combining ashwagandha and magnesium glycinate oh there's all kinds of stuff going okay so it's a little crazy let us know let us know if that that's how you get down. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Nikki Haley. We'll be right back.

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Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Nikki Haley, the Republican primary has kicked off. And all of these people are in just lose-lose situations. Yeah. Because, yeah, they're all going to lose, I think. Because they're all losers. They're all losers.

They're all losers as people to start off with. losers as people to start off with but so they but they gotta they gotta get out here and try and rally the base even though they don't believe any of this shit i don't think for the most part and and then but then also try and become like media darlings and it's just it's dark it's dark out there the primary is basically the who can be the bigger asshole contest right now to prove to the base that you are an absolute evildoer. And like as Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor, tours the country to try to make her case that she is also an inhumane monster. She's also had some time to see like what material works with certain crowds, you know, got to workshop some jokes or some material. But it's clear, right? Like to your point, Jack, that no one is going to get the nomination unless you take a

couple of these boxes. First, are you a homophobe transphobe? Okay. Are you racist? Okay. Uh, do you also believe that Bud Light is the true enemy of the American people? If you answered yes to these questions, then you can move to the next round. But now, so all of these talking points, along with like the anti-woke shit they do well when you talk to a room full of people whose brains have been malformed by chronic fox news viewing and so i just want to i just want to compare two audiences where nikki haley was just trying some material out first she's with a she's with some republicans in new hampshire uh and she decides to evoke dylan mulv, the trans influencer that recently collaborated Bud Light.

And we are, we already know about the outrage around that. So let's, let's hear Nikki Haley. First of all, like completely misgender Dylan Mulvaney while also just going on this attack and just see how the audience receives this, this,

this material, I guess I'll call it. And have any of y'all seen Dylan Mulvaney? Do you know who that is? On the beer cans? Let me tell you something. I know that there are transgender people out there. That is not a transgender person. That is a guy dressing up like a girl, making fun of women. Every one of you women have seen that so that audience was fully on board with that nonsense what what the fuck she thought she was

doing a stand-up set she thought that's what they all think they're doing right and you can tell because now now okay now we'll juxtapose that with a group with a room full of independents in the same state in new hampshire and goes along with this same nonsense transphobia and just just just check out like because that one audience the second nikki haley said dylan mulvaney people like yeah yeah that part we know just listen to this group of independents right now. This is her doing the same thing. Everybody know about Dylan Mulvaney? Bud Light, right?

Crickets. Make no mistake. That is a guy dressed up like a girl making fun of women. Women don't act like that. Hold for applause. Nothing. She looks confused. Nothing.

Nothing. That was confused. Nothing. Nothing. That was the loudest silence. Like the room tone. Oh, yeah. On that video was deafening. Oh, yeah. You could hear like someone's wristwatch. Like in that room.

The click of the wristwatch. I know. It was like super wild. So, you know, again, this is just just showing you kind of like when you're in a room full of like, you know, unaffiliated independent voters. Like they're not all they're not clued in on this like culture war shit like these like the MAGA room was. And it's just it just shows you right. Like this is like I think the hard part about the GOP trying to win a national election. The base feeds off of the hateful rhetoric.

And they need to hear that bullshit in order for a candidate to register as like a republican in their brain you know what i mean like oh they've evoked like the three hateful truths now i know what room i'm in but like appealing to their base isn't enough and so they also have to court independents many of whom are not aware of like the woke wars happening on Fox news and also believe in things like body autonomy or LGBTQ rights. And so, and it's funny because Nikki Haley in some rooms tries to be like, obviously like abortion is a,

is a, is an important topic. She's smart enough to never, she's smart enough to say like, well, obviously I'm pro-life, but also smart enough to never say what the cutoff is for whatever kind of abortion ban that she would potentially enact as president. Because that's just like sort of this weird middle space that they're having to occupy in terms of like, you know, the party platform.

But again, I think this is all part of why we're seeing just like this very stark turn towards fascism, because when they don't like something they cry about it and use every tool to intimidate people and incite violence like they did this with the election results and and as they see that like man our chances are fucking getting slim if we keep saying this shit to get the base out it's at the cost of getting a majority of people to vote for us so now we see now we see more and more of this like same pattern beginning to play out in other places not just like with respect to maybe school boards and things like that but also consumer goods right like with bud light and now fucking target because they're selling pride clothes like pride clothing in kids sizes like with stuff that says cure transphobia not trans

people or i'm meant to be here stuff like that and people are now completely the right wing is completely lost and been like it's they've caused a satanic panic they said the person designing it is was wearing like a satan shirt because it said like satan respects pronouns is like one of the pictures this person was wearing and they're like they're satanist and this is what they're trying to do through target where they are saying things like they are selling like tuck target where they are saying things like they are selling like tuck friendly bathing suits for kids when they're just pointing out like extra fabric that's like in the like the bottoms of like a bathing suit oh my god it sounds like middle school conspiracy theories it's embarrassing yeah yeah and really yeah and for like all this shit that you know Nikki Haley's talking but I'll

saying like because later on in that in that room in New Hampshire, she tries to pivot to say, and it's no wonder why do we have like these rates of attempted suicide increasing amongst adolescent girls and trying to connect trans people to that as if like because they are making fun of cis women. women and that's and it's like no it's because of the othering like what you're doing with trans people and other groups like that that's what leads to people being falling into despair to the point that they are they have that kind of ideation so it's just yeah again it was such a leap i couldn't even find it like i didn't know what you were implying when you were trying to explain what she was saying because like it was such a leap i didn't know what she was trying to say at all right because it's so i think because it's such a leap I didn't know what she was trying to say at all. Right. Because it's such a terrible distillation of just people being like, well, they're biologically not that, so they're making fun of us. Yeah, and that's why I'm hateful.

Right? I think. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, this is a form of something that the right has been doing for a long time with the screaming, being not the majority of the country, but being also the loudest whenever anything offends their delicate sensibilities has worked for them when it comes to FCC and yeah making sure that there's no bad words said on TV you know they'll fucking send a massive letter writing campaign and like that has worked for a long time it fucking ended Janet Jackson's career like in a lot of ways

I mean let's move that's had a lot to do with that. Right. And also let's move. Let's make sure. But I mean, that's the thing is like the, these corporate CEOs are not going to be brave and stand up like target removed their displays. Like some of them are moving some items from its stores and making other changes to its merchandise nationwide ahead of pride month after intense

backlash from some customers who confronted workers and tipped over displays oh my god that's but i mean i think the other thing too is i mean i get what the position targets into because they said right now the employees are the ones having to bear the brunt of like getting threats yeah i get i told it is a difficult balance because at one point you don't want to put the worker there to be the fucking defender of your corporate values and your capitalist pursuit of like never-ending dollars but like at the same time i know to your point it doesn't help to fucking cave to these people either like that's why we just talked about this with the dodgers the dodgers were about to have the the sisters of perpetual indulgence which they're like you know these like

drag performers who like raise raise money and you know they fucking lampoon catholicism because yeah why not and then they they said actually we don't want to have them because there's too much right-wing pressure and then they finally got their shit together like actually no we're gonna have them back fuck that uh we came to our senses but i don't know how many i don't know how many times we're gonna see that be the norm right because once it happens like it's just easier for them to be like oh well just because like a few hundred people are sending like all kinds of violent emails and stuff where we have to cave and it's just not a good sign when that becomes like an actual violent political movement attached to it that is conducting like domestic terror and openly saying hateful things out loud

that used to i guess they used to probably just say like in country club locker rooms but like there there is a momentum to this and we would need a corresponding strengthening of resolve and you know as we're about to talk about I think we're seeing it with some people, but looking for it from corporations, I think we're going to be disappointed because corporations are always going to triangulate to try and find the biggest consumer group they can by not offending anybody and not becoming a story. And what we're seeing here is that collective action works. So what's the best counter response to collective action? It is collective action. Right. Yeah.

So we could all, you know, we could all get up in arms and do something. That would be great. Yeah, exactly. I would love it. I mean, I think, yeah, it's like it's it's like on Charlie Kirk show, he was talking about the Target thing and he's like this CEO of Target. He's a groomer or whatever, because, look, it's projection at its finest. All right. Yeah.

Just just going after the CEO of Target because Target has been like, you know, they've done the bare minimum to just to support all of their employees. And to the conservatives, that's like they're trying to they're trying to come after our kids, the ones that I don't have because I'm so vile. No one wants to procreate with me. You don't give a fuck if they get shot or not. Yeah, right. Exactly. And I but it was interesting to watch him begin to be like, you know, Bud Light was like a one off. Like he was sort of starting to like throttle off the Bud Light outrage to be like, that was like a one time thing with an influencer.

But Target, they've been doing this. They've been doing this. He want to drink. He want to drink his Bud Light. I know's it's but again i don't know like what they always talk about like well we have to stop giving them our dollars you won't you won't right because at the end of the day none of this is actually like wrapped up in some real principled argument or like worldview they're like philosophically i can't let this happen y'all are just addicted to the outrage cycle to be like what who oh fuck those guys i'm not going to target where am i going right now just into target to get something but after that fuck them just to get something

right quick yeah really quick i mean it's it's convenient it's right there obviously because i live in an area where big box stores are the only place for me to shop. It's kind of in a weird bind anyway. But like, that's what you're... They constantly, like, they're saying like, oh, we took victory over Bud Light or these other things. I don't know. Maybe because you saw them not be as vocal. Sure. But again, like, their basically terror campaign continues.

It's about winning. It's not about any moral high ground like you said. It's about winning. Yeah, exactly. And if you just want to win, that i don't appreciate you think i'm stupid don't lie to me right well because that's the thing is like their hypocrisy is all over the place that everyone's like y'all are so dumb like you don't believe in any of this shit you just want to feel like you have you can get one over on people and you just pick the weakest groups out there to do that over and over and over again yep yeah. But yeah, it's disheartening.

But there is a response. There are responses to things like this because I don't want to just end this story by saying like, what the fuck, man? Look what the fuck is going on. So you probably heard of this group called Moms for Liberty. Right. They're the ones you see like organizing at school board meetings

like arms akimbo with like proud boys, you know, because they can't believe some words have the word queer or sex in them. Well, they've now become a national organization with over 115,000 members, as they say, and dark money funding because they are a 501c4 nonprofit where you do not have to disclose where none of your money comes from. Shout out to the Supreme Court. Shout out to them. But it's also every political party's favorite tool. But they were founded in Florida by this woman after she lost a school board re-election

in like a very red district in 2020. And then just like got in her hate bag and started this group that now has like deep ties to the GOP and has been like, you know, behind a lot of book bands. Like they're the people that you really see turning up at these like school board meetings and also helping Ron DeSantis with the don't say gay nonsense. So they've flexed their muscle over the last year, two years or so. And many other parents have noticed an uptick in this group's aggressive tactics, which is basically nonstop harassment, doxing, physical threats of violence to school board members, faculty or other parents that decide to speak up for their kids who are not like white cisgendered or just don't agree with this hate group.

called our schools was actually formed as a response to the charlottesville unite the right rally by a group of moms who felt they're like man like we can't just sit and watch and like tell our kids we did fuck all while this shit was happening so they like we just want to be able to push back on whatever we're seeing like all this ignorance popping up in our own communities and like again they've been able to slowly build a group and then once moms for moms for liberty came on the scene they've been able to actually start fighting back. So this group, our schools, they were doing a lot of stuff. Prior to Moms for Liberty showing up, they were able to get all kinds of more laws passed or standards for schools for more inclusivity and things like that. But once Moms for Liberty

pulled up, a lot of that shit has been clawed back and they were noticing too that like in these meetings of parents that were speaking out against some of these like more inclusive policies they're like i've never even seen this person before they're like yeah they have like some some people they said okay they just were not involved at all in like school board politics until this group but then other people saying like their people were coming in from like way out of town who are like they don't even have kids in the district and are speaking up as if they are these people like as if they are a concerned parent which leads a lot of people to be like this is just fucking astroturf bullshit but yeah it's it's

caused like a lot of pushback and there's another group that i call defense of democracy who they again saw these moms for liberty people showing up and being like, Christ is king over all our children. They're like, oh, not to know. No, not going to do that. And they began just very simply organizing other parents that they saw were like, this is kind of fucked up and like scary. And I don't like this shit, but I don't know where to start. So they started doing house meetings and then they were able to like, once the wave of school board elections happened in November, they were able to get a ton of these moms for Liberty candidates defeated because they just drew attention to like what they were going on about. Even though they said, I'm here to protect our kids. This is a

quote from one of the founders quote, we treat moms for Liberty, like the KKK. If you knew that a KKK meeting was happening in a church down the street from your house, everyone would be alarmed. We would be picketing. We would be protesting. We'd have a petition. And that was exactly what we do. Nice.

There it is. Nice. Yeah. Just showing up. And guess what? As a result, this has actually made an impact. Now Moms for Liberty, like they're on the defensive now. Trying to be like, no, we didn't say that.

We never said any of that. Because they know how extreme they look when people just like, have you heard what they say? And they began to lose a little bit of influence, not to say that they're defeated, but more as more parents are informed about their end game. Like it's gotten to the point where the main sort of headquarters of Moms for Liberty are telling all these subgroups, hey, tone down the fucking the hate shit. Try to be nice. Don't say the thing that we keep saying. Be respectful. Please, please, please. And that's just from other parents organizing enough to be like, y'all need to know what these people are actually about because it's not protecting our kids.

these people are actually about because it's not protecting our kids they're on there they have a fascist agenda that they're trying to bring into our schools and not just not just come after like non-cis kids or whatever they don't even want white kids to learn about the history of the united states because of you know we don't like the truth around here yeah i mean it feels like this is a bad look for the republican party being affiliated with the shit and like it it just it feels like this is like you said astro turf there's a lot of money behind it because this is where like the right wing and where like the billionaires actually like want things to head is in a more authoritarian direction because they don't like anything that's going to take away their power. And so there's a ton of money behind it, but I feel like there aren't people, that many people behind it.

Like they don't have the numbers. And we kind of saw that in the midterms, I'm hoping, is kind of what we saw at the beginning of a movement to just treat this the way that, like common sense like most people are just like that is fucking crazy we don't want to be against this like hateful bullshit where we have to like learn which corporations we have to like pick it and you know not use because of like some intricate ideology that you guys are creating on the fly that comes from a place of hatred.

Right. Yeah. I don't know. But there's so much money, and money is important in this country. That's the thing. Until we kill the money being the be-all, end-all in this country, everything's going to continue going to shit, unfortunately. Because what's happened is, right, groups like our schools,

which is the group Fighting Moms for Liberty, Now they are starting their own 501 C for basically to fight fucking fire with fire. They're like, okay, but we can get donors too. And we can also obscure that too. So they don't get harassed and shit and a way to start a pack and they can start putting money into campaigns and actually like identifying school board candidates that need to be elevated and pushed back against the moms for liberty nonsense and it's wild too because lawyers for moms for liberty have tried to stop the activities of these grassroots like counter movements by like hitting them with like dumb cease and desist orders where they're like you are defeat you are actively defaming moms for liberty and they they're like, we are actually, I'm sorry, by pointing to other parents to their own documented statements. Right. I'm sorry. You're defaming us with direct quotes. I forgot what the end game is supposed to be.

Right. Do you even know how the law works? Do you know what defamation is? Okay. But, and so a lot of them are like, okay, miss me with these like spooky,

like legal letters, because at the end of the day, they feel that they're on a path rightfully to, to, to combat this hate. But it's like, but again, I think the big thing too, to notice is a lot of these other groups like defending democracy, they lack funding. They don't have this, the same kind of funding. And that's what they're having to contend with is a lot of like well-funded Astroturf people who again are able to court real life parents obviously because that's how all this shit works is to be able to counter that is like really tough but the good thing is a lot of parents have been reaching out to them from across the country asking i got this shit going on in my like county how do i fucking like what do y'all do like

what is the playbook here and that message is beginning to spread like bit by bit. So, you know, just a bit of more heartening news to know that like, while a lot of the attention goes to these like these the loudest, most hateful, like stochastic terrorist groups, there are plenty of people like in this country that are still just terribly fucking disturbed by what they're doing and are organizing themselves against it and that's what it seems to be the effective thing is you know collectively fighting back yeah they've had this insurgency set up for a while because they have been you know the extreme right so they have the donors like they have they have the money channels and all the

like dark money set up and i i feel like people who want to fight back against it just like are too used to just being like well the democratic party is going to do this and it's like no we we need to fight like an insert they did not they did not we need to fight like an insurgent. They did not. They did not. We need to fight like an insurgent, an insurgency, and get grassroots and take direct action. At the end of the day, it's going to boil down to class. As much as you think they got a D by their name, that they're going to stand up for you, I've seen it for decades now. Where it's a fucking shell game of oh yeah we got your back oh whoops did we say that nah nah my bad hey vote for us though or else these fascists might take over you don't want that right okay that's the whole thing like i feel like everything

has to crumble before anybody gets the point whether it's more moderate republicans or democrats everything kind of has to crumble everybody has to suffer or else there's no consequences and people don't actually see things taking place that are affecting them and people they directly know and so nobody does anything right hate it let me know when the revolution starts i mean it's it's true like i mean that's i think especially america right it's like we have to get fully burned on the stove to realize, oh, it's hot. Fucking children. Yeah. It wasn't enough that everybody's been telling you this.

And, you know, like and it's sad, though, to to see like to your point. Right. Until that shit comes to your doorstep. A lot of people don't fucking get the picture. But even like with the recent like the recent shootings, you saw governors who knew victims in these mass shootings and they were still like yeah i don't know right kind of sucks though but i'm i'm so entrenched in this like ideology of like guns being like second to god that i'm just gonna kind of sit on my hands even though i know firsthand of the violence that befell people i

knew how scary yeah yeah yeah i mean now that active shooter drills are part of most schools of the violence that befell people I knew. How scary. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, now that active shooter drills are part of most schools in the country because they have to be, I think, again, you're going to see some natural people kind of voting against this bullshit, but I think it's not enough to just vote against it,

especially when the only two options are Republicans and Democrats. There needs to be direct action at some level. Yeah's either like you can either vote status quo or regression right yeah that's really it no one's offering a path forward right so and that's shitty someone was but they just couldn't get past yeah of course right yeah yeah because again the status quo will do whatever it has to to form arms against anything that looks like progress. And then, you know, that's why and that's why this year's Democratic primary is starting in South Carolina to stack the deck for Joe Biden already and scare off anybody who might challenge old Joe Brandon. But but it's like wild, though, too. Like it's I think just like with Republicans who are so out are so out of touch they're like whoa these people love this shit and they think it's a platform

yeah like but it's really just like you got these people really turned up for whatever the fuck like in the same way democrats are completely unable to understand what the stakes are for normal people and like i say this all the time i think the poorest person a democratic senator knows is one of their aides that works in their office. Yes. Right. And that's, that's their view into the fucking real world.

And they're like, Oh yeah. Damn aides. And then damn aides are poor. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Which is,

which is why you see like, that's why a lot of people of color are actually unable to be congressional aides because they make nothing. It's just like same thing with unpaid internships that naturally wealthy people are the only ones that are going to take those jobs because they'll be like, OK, I got your rent while you're working on the Hill. Don't worry about that. Right. It's just very difficult. Yeah. I've worked in Washington, D.C. for a little bit, and I think I was making like thirty thousand dollars.

Right. I was doing it. And that was 2016. What was I supposed to do with $30,000 in 2016? Nothing. I think, yeah, if anything, force you out of the job. Right. And it did.

Right. Yeah. Here we are. Yeah. That's why they're also trying to unionize as well, you know, because even congressional ladies are like, what the fuck is this? Collective action. I'd love to see it.

There you go. All right. Well, speaking of direct action, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some whales or I guess large dolphins. They were taking some collective action for sure. They were taking some. Yeah. All about it. All right.

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without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.

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and fuck up sailboats that they encounter. And the behavior is kind of... All the articles emphasize the behavior just came out of nowhere. Right. As if we should have expected a note from the orcas giving fair warning. But it kind of started. Nobody's seen this sort of behavior from orcas. But it started in 2020.

So far, three boats have been sunk in the last year. And the New York Times basically gave this the nothing to see here. They just play too much take. Like literally they were like, they're just playing. So they referred to the crafts as sailboats, even though a bunch of them are yachts, and said there's no explanation, but quoted people saying it's probably not payback for a boating encounter, which had been something that scientists had suggested.

And that it's unlikely to spread further than this pod. They're like, yeah, they're teaching each other, but they're probably not going to teach orcas elsewhere in the ocean. So it almost felt like it was an article trying to calm down people with yachts. Yeah. You gotta keep buying the yacht right yeah and here like this article is sponsored by orca proof boats yeah the article was actually it did have a article that was like propane a huge step forward in the path to zero carbon emissions oh my god it's just the new york times man they're

they are so just hand in hand with the energy industry this is clearly payback for warming the oceans they're mad they're mad and they aren't gonna spread it i want to know how they know that they're not gonna spread it we don't know that they're mad so yeah they're some of the most they're pretty intelligent like they'll get on whatever, Discordka or Twitter or whatever they use. Discordka. Yeah. Let them know. Discordka.

Yeah. I mean, the thing that they're not denying is that some of the behavior is being taught between the Orca pod, which is crazy, and the behavior is attacking yachts is attacking large sailboats uh the telegraph who i tend to trust more than the new york times because they're not inside the u.s and inside the oil industry as much as the new york times but they gave a more exciting rundown that i appreciated they were like there's this one girl white gladys and she is on one because she fucking hates boats because they fucked with her probably at some point right i'll just read from a quote from again this is the telegraph not like the daily mail or one of the the sun tabloids the sun a vengeful killer whale

called gladys is teaching gangs of orcas to attack yachts around Gibraltar and has already struck three boats, sinking two of them. It may read like something out of Moby Dick, but in this case, the truth is stranger than fiction. Researchers believe that a female orca called White Gladys is seeking revenge after being traumatized by a collision with a boat or being trapped in illegal fishing nets her attacks are now being copied by the rest of the nearby killer whale population which has learned how to ram vessels from their ringleader which that's that's how you tell that story wow let them know yeah i like this white gladys who came up with that gladys let them know yeah i like this white gladys who came up with that gladys yeah i don't know yeah i want to know which science is like that's white gladys right white gladys right because i know black gladys so is she how do we get here that's gladys white in the pods

the the quote so they actually quote the same people from the New York Times article, but they like use better parts of the quote. Like one of the people's like, I kept reminding myself we had a 22 ton boat made of steel, but seeing three of them coming at once quickly and at pace with

their fins out of the water was daunting. I couldn't believe it when I saw them. We were sitting ducks. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's what it feels like. I like how it goes on.

That's what the story feels like. A clearly larger matriarch was definitely around and was almost supervising. Yeah. So it's safe to say we're all team orcas, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We love it. Oh, yeah. We stand with the based orcas right like oh yeah yes we love it oh yeah oh yeah we

stand with the based orcas for sure i would hate humans too i get it yeah the two little orcas observed the bigger ones technique and with a slight run-up they too slammed into the boat and then they talked about it may 2020 one boat getting banged up so bad by these orcas that it sunk definitely feels like a trend yeah right i don't i don't know if it's like specifically they're like fuck they're really fucking it up we need to start taking taking action maybe inspire something on on their part probably not but the fact that it's i don't know it's really cool and it sends a clear if accidental nevertheless poetic message at a time when humanity needs to start ramming yachts either literally or figuratively take inspiration from the yachts yes please my proletarians yeah we will fucking smash them but man it's it's i i yeah i'm

like really i really need it to be that the orcas know what time it is yeah yeah they run even though it's not i don't know i don't again i don't want to i don't want to just like kneecap them there and say that they don't know what they're doing but wouldn't that be some shit like if that like i don't know this is a this is a very interesting beginning of a movie. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I've been waiting for them all to just like get together and turn like like the birds.

But just all animals are just like, all right, we got we got to get the fuck get these people to fuck out of here. Right. I'm done with them fucking fucking with us, man. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go.'s go i'll chew up all the wires yeah bees crows we know crows communicate and teach each other shit like let's go how scary right yeah and yet i would be watching it eating popcorn and being like yep

stay out of the water but jack you know, think of the yacht owners, though. I know. Won't you please think of the yacht owners. It was daunting for this woman to see the orcas coming at full speed. We were just trying to move our boat because we're doing some light tax evasion. Right. I am daunted. I feel daunted. A little money laundering.

That's it. Yeah, that's it. Oh, the orcas now? They're the cops now? Come on. Right. I feel daunted. A little money laundering. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Oh, the orcas now? They're the cops now? Come on. Right. But they're not. Anyways.

So we'll keep monitoring this story. And hopefully as it hopefully progresses. White Gladys, come on the show. Yes. Tell your side, White Gladys. I want to know. If White Gladys' manager is out there, just hit us up. We'd love to have her on the show. Representation.

Yeah, sign with Death Row Records. Well, Sequoia, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, hear you, all that good stuff? You can hear me on my podcast, Black People Love Paramore. You can find me on my podcast black people love paramore you can find me across all social media platforms at sequoia b homes or at bplp pod across all

social media platforms yeah yeah yeah and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying i have been enjoying every single renaissance footage that i've seen against my will but very much kind of happily okay are you are you uh are you gonna see the the tour yes i am going to the september show is it the one of the birthday show it is not the birthday show she put the birthday show on the lineup after i had already gotten the tickets for the september first so i'm really annoyed yeah yeah i hear that you think kendrick will come out i do think i he's just going to come out. Yes, absolutely. After that remix. I think he might be for the birthday show, though. So I don't know.

Oh, man. Okay. Okay. And also, I just have to ask you, do you think Beyonce has a burner? Because I saw everybody flipping out about how she was doing heated on the Club Renaissance stage. Hell yeah, she has a burner. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. They have to. I can't live in a world where these people don't have burner accounts to know. Even though I would deify Beyonce, I'm like, she's above wanting to know what the fuck people think about her. Part of me knows she still has to know. She's like a mom giggling at memes on her burner account, getting on Blue Ivy's nerves. I know.

I already know. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What is the work media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack and I on our NBA podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Or Sad Boosties because my Lakers, you know. But that's fine.

I'm very zen about it. I'm very zen about it. We did very well, actually. I got to say, I was not expecting us to do that well. And also, if you like 90 Day Fiancé and Terrible Trash Reality Show, you can catch me on my other show with Sophia Alexandra for 20 Day Fiancé. So you know what time it is. A tweet I like is from Hugh Moore, at Hugh underscore Moore,

who tweeted, LeBron never went to college. He could just go play with his son at USC, then retire. Mission accomplished. Go play with his son at USC, then retire. Mission accomplished. Yeah, I saw people speculating what his NIL deal would look like. Oh, my God. Just do it.

Fine. Why not? I love that. I love that movie. LeBron James goes to college. Back to, yeah, just document every second of that. Release the documentary. It's like back to school part two. LeBron in class and shit.

Yeah. Oh, I love that. The hype tweeted Isaac Newton. Hey, what the hell? Stop that. Me throwing apples at his head. What other theories you hiding in there, you piece of shit? That one really got me.

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Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.

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Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.

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