The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 103 (Best of 11/25/19-11/29/19)

Episode Date: December 1, 2019

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Starting point is 00:02:06 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. infotainment laugh extravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist what is something you think is underrated well speaking of what we were just talking about i'd say nature oh yeah i just think it's not even that it's under i just think it's an easy thing to forget i think living in the city it's easy to go months without being like, oh, I haven't like connected with nature in any way. And I made a resolution this year to camp at least once a month.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Oh, wow. Yeah. Just in an effort to be like, I used to like camping. I've lived here for like six or seven years. I haven't camped very much when I've been here, like only once or twice.
Starting point is 00:02:57 So I was like, I'm just going to do it. So I've gone once a month this year. It's been really, really nice. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Colorado. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I was going to guess that. I was about to be like, hold on, bro. Yeah. Where's this fool from? I grew up in Colorado. I was about to be like, hold on, bro. Where's this fool from? That's part of it. Running through your veins. I lived in a teepee in the woods for three months in Colorado. Did you really? Yeah, I was just trying to cultural appropriation. No, it was when I was nine years old. Wait, when you were nine? Wait, were you solo? No, no, no, no. I was with my family. I like the idea of nine years old.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Nine years old, I was living in the Bay Area and my mom moved me and my siblings to Colorado. And I don't know if this was made clear to us, but we didn't have a place to live. And then we just lived on this property in the woods for three months with no electricity, no running water. And it was one of the most formative experiences of my life in a positive way. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. When you say it was a tp was it like
Starting point is 00:03:45 one of those was it shaped like a tp and you like would have a fire in the middle that would go no fire but it was shaped like a tp and yeah we just actually there was like a stove in the middle you're right actually there was a stove in the middle to heat it up and we lived in there yeah that's awesome had some got sick i got rocky mountain fever from a tick oh wow what was that like it's like 105 degree fever for a week it was like very very brutal wow it was like the sickest i'm just hallucinating all day every day just going crazy it was pretty brutal how many uh brothers and sisters you have i had 10 and only eight made it over the summer
Starting point is 00:04:18 the donner family yeah no i have two full siblings and a half sibling and they were all there with me. Oh, wow. It was fun. Yeah, it was a really like, I don't want to dwell on it, but it was a formative part of my life. Yeah, that's very cool. Well, nature, yeah, it's one of those things too, where they say even people who are able to just interact more with nature, trees even, or like just score a little bit higher and like overall well-being to a certain extent. Yeah, I think it really, really you know affects you in ways that you can't quantify at first and then you're just like oh i just feel better or something just being
Starting point is 00:04:49 in nature going on a hike for an hour it's not a big thought i mean we're of the earth who knew you know and finally what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false i'm actually gonna know the opposite something that people might think is false that i know to be true hell yeah I got hypnotized to help with something. And I would have thought that hypnotism doesn't work. Yeah. Because I'm not into astrology. Like I'm really not into a lot of stuff that LA is defined by.
Starting point is 00:05:14 But I got hypnotized for a fear of flying and it straight up fixed me. What? Yeah. I've had a fear of flying pretty much my whole life. About two, two, two and a half years ago, I got hypnotized. And flying is not a problem for me anymore really now you're a pilot i'm a pilot i'm a fighter i'm flying every day but no because i think in my mind hypnotism was these kind of you know was i would put it in the same realm as
Starting point is 00:05:36 like astrology or something that's like kind of like fake yeah you know but it actually is more scientific than that and it basically just my fear of flying and a lot of people's fears is, you know, your brain taking a mechanism fear that was designed for like, you know, like a tiger, like, you know, stress response hormones with something that is an actual danger. Survival. And it's putting it onto something that isn't dangerous. Right. Planes, even though they feel dangerous and, you know, obviously they are to a certain degree, but your brain is being like, this thing is going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Right. And it just rewires your brain. So you're no longer thinking that. And it really helped. And I can fly with much more ease than I used to be able to. That's amazing. Yeah. So it really did help me. So that's just something that I was always hesitant about. And then my ex-girlfriend convinced me to do it. And it was a really good. Is it one of those things that, does it work with everyone? Because I know people, if you're overly cynical or you might not even typically meditate or something like that. something like you close your eyes while a guy's doing the thing in front of your face like swinging the I would have considered myself quite cynical about it right right and
Starting point is 00:06:32 it worked you go into it but did you go into being like this isn't gonna work or did you go be like I need I need to I was in the middle I was in the middle yeah and then so what it is is like they basically she interviewed me for like three hours about flying and like how I feel about flying. Like a watchman or something? Yeah, it was like a watchman type thing. I was in a sphere with video playing all around me 360 degrees. Are you or have you ever been part of the 7th Calvary? I was fully nude.
Starting point is 00:06:55 All my holes were plugged. Electrodes everywhere. All my holes were plugged. It was just a normal conversation. Yeah, basically, like, she's basically looking into my brain to see how I talk about flying. And, like, specifically the words that I use, you know, because then what she does is she hypnotizes me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 It was like a 30-minute hypnosis. I'm lying down, and it's just, like, using my words about talking about flying and kind of mapping it onto something that's more positive in my life as opposed to something negative and kind of doing all these things. And then she records that. And then I listened to that every night for like a month when I went to sleep, like the 30 minute thing. And then now, and then I stopped listening to it every night after like a few months. And then now whenever I get on a plane, I just listen to that at the beginning of the flight and then I'm good the rest of the flight. Okay. Oh, okay. So you still have like a
Starting point is 00:07:40 little bit. You don't have to, but it does help. Right, for you personally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it, I mean, I would say it worked. I know people who have done it for smoking and other stuff. Yeah, I know somebody who did it for smoking. Did it work for them? Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. I mean, they began smoking though again, not because like the hypnosis failed them. They just
Starting point is 00:07:58 had a very stressful point in their life and they're like, I'm going to start smoking for a second. Hey, I've decided to start smoking. Yeah, but it's like, no, no. But for a long time, I think it was like two years or something. But it was like on a dime, basically. Wow. But then afterwards, there was personal shit going on.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's like, I got to get myself the sweet, sweet release of nicotine. Now, what does it feel like while you're being hypnotized? Because I feel like people assume it's just like you go away or something. But it's just like meditating. It or something. But it's just like... It was just like a deep kind of meditative sleep type thing. And then when I listen to the thing, I'm fully aware of all of it. It's not like it all of a sudden makes me go...
Starting point is 00:08:32 Don't start barking like a dog. Well, yeah, because all of our associations are, you are getting sleep. Right, it's not quite like that. It's just like your brain is thinking this thing is scary and let's kind of shift that a little bit. Now, do your eyes turn into whirly things like in cartoons? They do.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Oh, spirals? Yeah, spirals. That does happen, and that is one of the best parts. Yeah, that is actually pretty cool. It's out of a lot of parking tickets. You sure you want to do that? All right, we're going to take a quick break to talk more about The Matrix.
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Starting point is 00:13:18 And we're back. Nick, what's overrated? Here's the thing. I think you hinted to the fact that you want to talk about this same subject that I have as an overrated for my overrated
Starting point is 00:13:28 great later on in the show let's do it should we do it now or should we wait whatever we can do let's just take it out of the park what's going on
Starting point is 00:13:35 okay you guys watched a holiday movie yeah yeah yeah okay well the difference is your holiday movie is a theatrical release with stars in it yes
Starting point is 00:13:43 yes my beef is kind of with the lower rated you have beef with the holiday movie is a theatrical release with stars in it. Yes. Yes. My beef is kind of with the lower rated. You have beef with the trash holiday movies? I do very much. Wow, sir. I mean, inundated. Do you know where you are? Again.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You're at the Griffin at a Republican congregation. How dare you? I kind of look at it like pornography, right? Like the Hallmark type. We make way too much of it. Absolutely. And we don't need literally any of it because we have them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 We have more trash holiday movies than you could ever watch in a million Decembers. Can you cite some specific examples? Oh, yeah. The Christmas Prince. The Holiday Nutmeg. That's not a real one. The Boy in the Bubble. The Boy in the Bubble. The Boy in the Bubble Boy.
Starting point is 00:14:28 The Holiday Chance. A Night Before Christmas. Freddy Got Fingered. The Princess Switch. The Princess Switch 2 is coming out. Yeah, I mean, they're terrible movies that are so formulaic. The Night Before Christmas with Vanessa Hudgens. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Truth be told, I was working on a script, and I'm just going to look. I don't know if it's going anywhere, so I'm just going to say the title. Hey, congrats. It was called Single All the Way. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Hell yes. And this is free IP for Marvista Productions because y'all pitched it to y'all and then you passed. So fuck y'all. Anyway. Have you written one of these before? Yeah, I've dabbled with Her Majesty, my partner. Because we watch a lot of trash movies and we go, let me see.
Starting point is 00:15:16 How can we turn this up? We could write a script. Because it's so formulaic, like you say. It really is devoid of... The thing we realize in writing one, the second you try and deviate, I'm like, well, see, that's what them lame-ass shits do. It starts becoming bad, actually,
Starting point is 00:15:32 because the genre itself needs to be so painfully obvious, and you telegraph everything that... It's like paint by numbers. Yeah, the second you try and be like, man, what if I paint it outside? It's like, no, it's in the perfect shape of Darth Vader's face. And you start painting over here, and now what the fuck is that? And we don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It's confusing. But yeah, it's an interesting undertaking. I watched Holiday in the Wild a couple weeks ago. That's the one with Kristen Davis and Rob Lowe. Oh, okay. davis and rob lowe oh okay and it's a formulaic uh like rom-com thing but also hardcore into like elephant conservation oh all right they spend so much time on it and it is a real a real deviation of the form i'm sorry when we talk about why it's bad you're just saying it's the sheer volume and the lack of original well no they, no, they're all bad.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But I'm saying they're bad in a way... It's like saying get rid of junk food. It's like, how dare you, sir? But it's not that no one should enjoy them. Of course we should. I just don't think we need to make so many new ones because I mean, it's out there. They're not getting any
Starting point is 00:16:42 better. Yeah, but it's purely like... If you just watch all last years that you didn't see I've already seen all last years all of them yeah you saw all 30 Lifetimes
Starting point is 00:16:50 I watched all 30 Netflixes you mean the 40 night 40 days of Christmas on Hallmark channel event yeah yeah I caught about 36
Starting point is 00:16:59 for sure see I haven't done the Hallmark ones but I've watched a fair number of the netflix ones i put my relationship in jeopardy to watch all them i was like respect the mark they don't do magic in their shows that's a specific thing about hallmark ones they don't fuck with magic
Starting point is 00:17:16 yes sir wow so tell me i don't know about this shit i do like that a lot yeah their their whole thing is like we don't do magic. Yeah. You want magic? No, no, no. You go over to fucking one of these other places. Wow, that's nice. Yeah. They don't like spooky or kooky. I just watched Noel on Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:17:34 That's a Disney Plus. Original? Original Christmas movie. With Noel Wells? Nope. It is Anna Kendrick. Not about Christmas. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And it's like, is she going to be Santa or not? That's the question that drives the narrative. Oh, right, right, right. Is it good? Is it Anna Kendrick. Not about Christmas. Oh. And it's like, is she going to be Santa or not? That's the question that drives the narrative. Oh, right, right, right. Is it Anna Kendrick? Yeah. No, it is not good. Oh, I wasn't correcting you on your pronunciation. Did you say Anna Kendrick?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah, but I don't know which one it is. I don't. I thought you knew something I didn't know until you immediately backed down. I'm like, oh, y'all are homies like that? I'm just stupid. Anna Kendrick? Yeah, Anna Kendrick. Yeah, and a kindred. Oh, that's how you say it.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah, I think, you know, the thing for me is the reason I like it is because it's just familiar. It's like basically watching a Yule log TV thing where it's just a burning log. Like, it ain't going anywhere. That's not going to catch me off guard. But I like adding every year maybe new filmmaking techniques or higher resolution of the cameras that are the only things that change but i get it it is like poor there's it's it's it's a there's a proliferation of this shit is there one good one they're all good i think okay christmas chronicles i think that well that was the one from last year. With Kurt Russell? With Kurt Russell. Oh, I hated that so much in a special way. Okay, the CGI elves in that?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Santa does not make fake news jokes, I'll tell you that much. I forgot about that. Not my Santa. Not my district. No, there aren't any good ones. Yeah, I mean, A Christmas Prince. Well, because that's magic too and that one is like one of the things that I really despise
Starting point is 00:19:07 the most which is someone having to be like you're crazy Santa is real right right right I'm sorry bud but we live in the real world and then they do magic and then they're like what the fuck shoot Santa they're like this fucking
Starting point is 00:19:23 freaky junkie's flying pow pow get him out the sky yeah I mean sorry What the fuck? No, thanks. Like, shoot Santa? They're like, bro, this fucking freaky junkie's flying. Pow, pow. Get him out the sky. Yeah, I mean. Anyway, sorry. No, but a Christmas prince. We obviously have very different opinions. No, no.
Starting point is 00:19:31 A Christmas prince is terrible. And it's just the right amount of terrible and misplaced, you know, like, ignorance in there, too. Oh, yeah. It's like reducing all these cultures to these weird, like, Cold War idea of what Europe is. But I don't know. i think it's weird i also have a palette for absolute trash which is why this is why i'm surprised by you too because you and i both watch a lot of reality television that's true
Starting point is 00:19:56 so how are you like god this holiday drivel is too much. Reality television is different. I don't know. I don't know. It is so much better. Movies are movies. Yeah. And reality television is supposed to be crap. What else? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Turkey. The country. John Bolton was at an event for Morgan Stanley. Really great. Really great organization. And made this really interesting statement. He basically said that he, I don't know, he's like, he believes that, quote, there is a personal or business relationship dictating Trump's position on Turkey.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Just said that out loud. I think it was obvious that something was going on based on how, I think a lot of times you're like, oh, he loves strong men. And the other thing could be like, dude, these strong men all have something on him or whatever. They have they have an ability to like pick at him. And when you look at like sort of the policies that have been going on with Trump and him between him and Erdogan, you can tell like there's some something's weird going on. Like, you know, like two years ago, Erdogan came to D.C. and his goons like just beat up a bunch of protesters.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I think about that every week. Yeah. And he was like and Trump just didn't say anything. That video is monstrous. It's wild. They're straight up. One of the craziest things I've ever seen. Just clubbing. Beating the hell out of people.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Out of protesters. Out of protesters in the middle of D.C. Yeah. On our streets. On our streets. Like they're like, OK. And that shows you. And our president sucks his fucking dick. Wow. Yeah. i blacked out no you know you're back okay but it's true he sucked his dick uh it was it was just one of those things where he purely had nothing to say
Starting point is 00:21:36 like he was just like i'm not gonna say anything i don't want to make it hot um and a lot of people have been saying like okay what's going on there There's one thing that when you look at sort of how this relationship is working between the two countries, unlike Ukraine that had like the, you know, Rudy Giuliani, Rick Perry, Sondland, Volker crew working on stuff. This one is literally just a bunch of son-in-laws working together. is Erdogan's son-in-law, who's been working on diplomacy with Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, and Mehmet Ali Yelizindag, I may have completely botched his name, who's the son-in-law of Trump's business partner in Turkey, this guy, Aydin Dolgan. So there's like, everybody's got their son-in-laws working together to sort of work on all these different, you know, relations between the U.S. and Turkey. Now, I think there are so many scandals going on in Ukraine, obviously has the most momentum. But when you actually really look at sort of what's going on with Turkey, like think
Starting point is 00:22:35 about Mike Flynn. He was in trouble for being an unregistered agent, like acting on behalf of Turkey's interests and was even like vocally before being like, oh, I don't think we need to arm the Kurds on the border in Syria. Like, I'm actually against that. And you're like, I'm sorry, what? Where did that take come from? Oh, right, Turkey.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And was even sort of like, yeah, I think we need to like sort out this sort of border dispute with Turkey and Syria. Again, he was verbalizing that for Turkish interests. Then you start looking trump has substantial business interests in turkey there's like a tower there uh like the trump tower that's licensed and erdogan has basically even like shown that he can fuck this up by saying like maybe we need to remove the name from this building as president of turkey like i can also make decisions like that and so you see there's a little bit of back and forth push pull between those two. You look at how many times the president has sided with Turkey, like completely confusing and confounding, like the expert opinions on like
Starting point is 00:23:36 what is actually going on or what needs to be done for the, in terms of the U S's interests. And then again, you look at these connections between all these son-in-laws doing their sort of backdoor diplomacy. It starts to get really odd. And then again, Rudy Giuliani shows up also even in Turkey because he has a financial interest in Turkey because he's representing this guy Reza Zarrab, who is a Turkish-Iranian business person who is in trouble for helping basically evade sanctions. Um, and I think the U S is sort of saying like, Hey, like Rudy will help you out. Like there's a way we can make this all work and we can all win. There's just a lot of, um, darkness. Um, and with just the amount of, I would actually, the lack of oversight when you add it all up, you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:24 you can only imagine what kind of things that are going on, what transcripts even sound like between those two leaders and what other people might have other dirt or ideas or have seen things that they're like, this is completely untoward. So something to think about this Thanksgiving. I have been watching 90 Day Fiance. Marcel from Turkey. The beekeeper, yes. Yes. That's why I'm mad at Turkey at the moment. He's a terrible, terrible partner.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Well, I'm only to the point where he had a pizza in America for the first time. And he said, this is bad. In Turkey, our pizza is good. Yeah. But said, this is bad. In Turkey, our pizza is good. Yeah. But here, this is bad. Also, completely different dishes. I can imagine. You would never compare a Lama June to a fucking Domino's pizza.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. But look, I can go all day, baby. And I do on my new podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Look for it sometime in the next few years. It's actually out now. Cha-ching! Wow. Oh, actually out now. Cha-ching! Wow. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Let's move on really quickly to Papa John also, who made the terrible decision to be filmed, just in general. I think he should never be filmed. Yeah, real Orson Welles moment. Every photo of him is him sweaty. Yeah. And it's, look, I get it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Maybe he has a problem, but I think it's more him being trezashed all the time. Yeah. And this whole thing, he goes on, first of all, to defend himself and what happened with Papa John's.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You'll see this claim of his diet that's fantastic. But also, in the true mark of a guilty person who's fucked up, claims he was set up and that his enemies used, quote, the black community and race to steal the company, end quote.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Goodbye. Let's just hear this Twitter clip that everyone put together that's like a greatest hits of some of the things he said. I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days. Living currently in Mark Shapiro should be in jail. He has no pizza experience. He's never been in the pizza category i would just say stay tuned the day of reckoning will come the record will be straight why not set the record straight down i mean what is it about the record that's not straight stay tuned yeah buddy hey you know hey stay tuned oh so should we come
Starting point is 00:26:51 back when there's something to talk to you about keep the cameras rolling the day right sorry do you want to do a second take on that no one take john what to call me. He was, I don't know, what the fuck. Pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza at supper time. Pizza in the morning, pizza for 30 days. When you're drunk as fuck, you might be Papa John. That's like 1.3 pizzas a day. Thank you for breaking down the math on that. You're welcome. That's a lot of pizza.
Starting point is 00:27:22 What's the flex? To say he's had that many pizzas? Yeah. I think he was saying maybe that he's had, I don't know what the full price is. Like he's on quality control now? He's like ordering pizzas from Papa John's, I think. Right. And he's like just like testing the quality.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And he said something to the effect of like, it's not the same pizza. It used to be like whenever he was in charge. Okay. Here's my first problem with this. You're working at Papa John's, right? An order comes in. The same order you get every day. It's like, oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Oh, it's at John's house. You know where his house is. Right. It's half the size of the state. You know, and he's probably like angry. He's like, you know who it is? It's Papa. I'm ordering the usual. No, son.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I would like my pizzas today. Okay, I'm a woman. Okay, well, get my order, son. It's Papa. Like, yeah. You think that the workers are like, man, fuck this guy. Of course his pizzas taste bad. They're fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like throwing the cheese in one corner of the pie. Like, yeah, send it. I have the quote. It's, I've had over 40, over 40 pizzas. Oh, okay, 40. Wow, it could be,
Starting point is 00:28:31 what's over 40? A thousand for 40 days and 40 nights. Fucking Noah's Ark of pizzas. So I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days and it's not the same pizza. It's not the same product.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It just doesn't taste as good. Oh wait, but this is something that Schnatter said. I've had over 36 to 40 feral pizzas delivered to my house. But that's Papa John. It's John Schnatter. Oh, okay. Well, I'm an idiot, as we've already established. Well, no, I'm glad that you actually don't know his name.
Starting point is 00:28:58 You don't need to put that information in your brain. He doesn't seem like a Schnatter. Yeah, I thought he'd have, like, I don't know, more of an Italian- Italian sounding name or something. You'd hope that our pizza luminaries. Our Papa Pizza. Papa John's Authentico. Wait, he's not from Napoli?
Starting point is 00:29:12 He's not from Napoli, huh? Oh my God. What the fuck? Oh. I mean, maybe that's reductive of me. I don't know, but. Well, you'd hope, right? That someone who.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Someone whose last name is Durante. Yeah. And I'm, you know, making pizza. I'm the'm making pizzas here mama pizza yeah oh oh mama caitlin yeah soon mama kate kate sludge pies you gotta love them um okay let's move let's cut that out why we're keeping all this we're keeping all the terrible stuff in. We're going to be canceled by the end of this episode. Hell yeah. That wouldn't be my first time.
Starting point is 00:29:53 All right, let's take another quick break, and we'll get into some real news after this. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader
Starting point is 00:30:29 Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of this right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:30:47 This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch.
Starting point is 00:32:31 As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry. I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health, and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I
Starting point is 00:33:36 am from pickleball, we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust. Everything is vetted by experts at the top of their field, and you can write into them directly to have your questions answered. So sign up for Body and Soul at katiecouric.com slash bodyandsoul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. And we're back. Let's talk briefly about justin timberlake um because old ramen head is filming a movie in new orleans and was spotted cozying up to his co-star alicia wainwright at a bar now caitlin when you came in i showed you the video yeah because look these are the photos nick
Starting point is 00:34:21 this is what we're seeing there was some little little hand-holding going on. And that's not Jessica Biel. And this is another one. Little touch and go here. That's a full-on hand-in-hand touching. Yep. I've seen the evidence. Yep. You've seen the evidence.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Do you need any more or have you come to a decision? No, I read about it. I hadn't seen the pictures. But I've come to a decision. Okay. Now, what I will say is both parties deny anything is going on, which is fine. But we all know Justin Timberlake is known to leave a woman in the lurch
Starting point is 00:34:52 when it, when he gets in hot water, Janet Jackson. So I'm curious to know what happens here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:35:01 I will say this. I don't, we obviously don't have evidence that they're having an affair. Definitely don't have that. What we do have evidence of is that he definitely has weird, sad, drunk with flirty eyes vibe. Okay. So here's my opinion. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Harmless. Harmless. You never held a friend's hand? That was going to be my general. Like, you know, affection, human contact, it's important. It doesn't necessarily have to be my general Like you know affection Human contact it's important it doesn't necessarily Have to be sexual it could just be like a platonic Friendly gesture
Starting point is 00:35:30 They're working on a movie together And they probably Have a very close relationship at the moment And there's Lots of people around He's getting photographed every minute of his life This is what they got Did you see
Starting point is 00:35:45 the video though you watch the video no when you watch the video you can tell a to me it seems like it could be innocent like more just like you're drunk and kind of being affectionate with someone maybe maybe to the chagrin of your partner uh but there are times when he did this he sips his drink in you know when you've seen somebody so drunk they drink their drink like this? Mm-hmm. And what I'm doing for those of you, because this is a podcast, when you have your head tilted down the whole
Starting point is 00:36:14 time. Like you're asleep, but you're still trying to drink. He was doing that and like, look, I'm not here to accuse a man of anything, but what I would say is not a good look. I think people, I think he's really good at being a celebrity. I think he's been able to keep this together for 25 years, and I don't think this
Starting point is 00:36:30 was the slip up that you know, we caught him. I just don't think there's anything here. At one stage, he grabbed her hand and rested it on his knee. She then gently started stroking his leg. Then he clutched her hand with both of his and was playing with her hands. Um, maybe they were rehearsing
Starting point is 00:36:46 a scene for the next scene. What are you, his PR person? They play love interests of each other. Yeah, they're just getting their chemistry going for their scene. Justified is one of the greatest albums, so he's justified. He probably took her hand, he caressed it, he put it on his knee and looked
Starting point is 00:37:01 deep into her eyes and said, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I am in love with the most beautiful woman in the world. With Jessica Biel. Now, please get your hands off of me, you brute. Or maybe it's Future Sex Love Sounds, his other great album. Oh, yeah. What's your favorite Justin Timberlake album? I think that one.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I'm an old head, so Justified is one of my favorites. I see. Hmm. What about you? I'm a no strings attached guy. Oh, and Sync, are we? Oh. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Wait, do you like Justin Timberlake? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't you? He's in Trolls for crying out loud. Yeah, he's incredible. He's in Trolls as himself, or he's the voice of a troll? No, he's one of the voices of the troll. I haven't seen any Trolls movies, but... Oh, I haven't either. He's got the feelings. Yeah, that's for Trolls, isn as himself? Or he's the voice of a troll? No, he's one of the voices of the troll. I haven't seen any Trolls movies, but...
Starting point is 00:37:45 Oh, I haven't either. He's got the feelings. Yeah, that's for Trolls, isn't it? It's a great song. Yeah. He's in charge of the music for the second movie. Okay, hold on. You're a Justin Timberlake fan, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Of course. I mean, what... No, like a fan, though. You're not like casual with it. Look, I read. I just... What do you mean? Wait know i wait hold on what is that the beginning of an explanation that's what i know about the troll thing i don't know too i'm literate as well instagram captions yeah yeah yeah he's very likable he's got curly hair i like that yeah um
Starting point is 00:38:20 he's got a lot of hits oh you know Oh, you should dye your hair like Justin's. Holy shit. You know what? I did that. You did for a bit? Well, yeah, in college. I definitely did that. Like to be like Justin Timberlake?
Starting point is 00:38:31 No. Or just be like, I'm going to dye my hair because it's college. Yeah, you dye your hair because of him. I thought you were going to be like, I'm going to be Ramen Head Justin. No. With like tinted rose glasses. No. Also, I think I'm probably more into Backstreet Boys.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I mean, I was too. Yeah, well, maybe it was just like a year older. Okay. Yeah. Who's your favorite Backstreet Boy? Say it on three. One, two, three. Brian.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Okay. You said Brian? I said Howie. Oh, you said Brian. It's the first one I could think of. Kevin. Oh, yeah, they're all in there. Brian's the first one I could think of. Kevin. Oh, yeah. They're all in there.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, yeah. Kevin. Brian's the right answer. I'm sorry. What were you saying before we interrupted you with our love of Backstreet Boys? Oh, gee. The woman's talking here. Sorry, Mrs. Littrell.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I think Backstreet Boys, like the sum of the parts is, like as a whole, they are better than NSYNC, but NSYNC has some better individual better solo stuff from NSYNC but only just that one guy with Justin Turbelli you wonder how Chris Kirkpatrick got in that group when you look at him and you think clearly he's
Starting point is 00:39:38 he's insanely old and odd looking and he had weird cyber dreads but if you I watched that documentary and odd looking. And he had weird cyber dreads. But if you, you know, I watched that documentary, the one about the guy,
Starting point is 00:39:54 the manager. Oh, Lou Pearlman? Lou Pearlman, yeah. You see some old footage, pictures of Chris Kirkpatrick. Damn, that dude was cute. Was he cute? He was so cute. And what? when he got hired, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:07 You see, it's not a question anymore. Why'd they put that guy in the group? Well, they didn't put that guy in the group. They put a cute 17-year-old in the group. Yeah. Wait, so what did he look like? They're like,
Starting point is 00:40:17 hey, man, you need to grow these weird fucking Predator raids. Kind of. And I mean Predator, the character of the movie, not a Predator. Yeah, and you need to wear these weird dreadlocks. These, uh... Predator raids. Kind of. And I mean Predator, the character of the movie, not a Predator.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, you need to wear these like- Weird dreadlocks. These- They made him look like a fool. Ski goggles. Yeah, didn't he look like the- I guess that was his thing. That was his thing. His angle.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Well, I mean, we've all seen Josie and the Pussycats, right? There's that montage in that movie when they get famous or they get signed to a record deal and they have to give them all makeovers. And they do that to stars. They give them this whole image. So yeah, they just made him look like a stupid idiot, I guess. They're like, you're into hacky sacking with glow sticks in The Matrix. How many Josie and the Pussycats has there been? Are we at three yet?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Movies? No, just the one with Rachel Lee Cook. So there needs to be a sequel and a treacle. I like the idea that the person involved in giving Chris Kirkpatrick a look only worked in entertainment for one day. Right. They came in and they did him and they're like, ah, no, you're out of here. But it's too late with him because we did the photo shoot. Yeah, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Sorry, dressed him like that. That's his brand. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Bye. We'll be right back. Thank you. I'm going to go. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:43:12 One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer this season on the new podcast Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes and I'm so excited about
Starting point is 00:43:44 my new podcast Rebel Spirit where I head backilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone.
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