The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 11 (Best of 2/12/18-2/16/18)

Episode Date: February 18, 2018

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Starting point is 00:02:00 that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist matt what is something that you think is overrated this is a little abstract but i think having cool taste is overrated yeah and this is related to liking paddington too i think that too many people especially in los angeles or wherever are obsessed with having the most obscure interesting taste right and what it creates is a shame culture
Starting point is 00:02:59 where you feel ashamed of things that you might get joy from that aren't cool and i think we should get over that do you have a do you have an example of something else you've felt shame about liking um well this one is now a little complicated because our new public persona but taylor swift for a long time was someone that i really enjoyed her music her album 1989 now it's she's like kind of maybe not the best person or whatever is going on with her, but I felt a lot of shame for liking Taylor Swift for a while. What do you think of the song Shake It Off? I like it. Magic.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I do too. It's my favorite song. I've taken a lot of shit for really standing up for that song. Yeah, it's great. It's a great song. You've got to stand for what you believe in, Jack. I do. You know the reason why we haven't seen Jack shirtless?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Because he has all the lyrics tattooed on his chest. Right. Along with the big eagle for some reason. Chloe Kim. First generation Korean or second generation Korean, depending on. So this is the main thing I want to talk about, is the fact that there's no agreed on definition of first generation Korean. I thought I assumed first generation meant that you were the first generation that was born in the United States.
Starting point is 00:04:12 My wife is first generation Korean like Chloe Kim. And apparently that's not an agreed on thing because I saw somebody referring to Chloe Kim as second generation and her parents who immigrated here as first generation American. Let's just make up our minds, guys. Come on. Yeah, wait. So there's no like dictionary definition of what counts?
Starting point is 00:04:34 No. When you go to Wikipedia, they say first generation means one of two completely conflicting things. Yeah, because in Japanese, I'm considered N nisei which is a person born in the u.s right whose parents are from japan yeah and that's considered second generation but i'm like but aren't i the first you feel like it's about your birth right if you immigrate so i don't know yeah whatever there's such a robust racist lexicon in every culture um but anyways she crushed it she was basically already had the gold medal locked away and then she was like you know i really didn't want to come here and just win gold without doing my best and
Starting point is 00:05:16 so she put up a final run that like scored a 98 or something like that she blacked out because i think the the one i think it was a chinese snowboarder who was the only the closest person to put pressure on her when she fucked up her last trick it was in the bag and then she went she was like all right fuck it let me show you how chloe kim does and yeah it was uh she had back to back 1080 degree spins uh which again i'm not good enough at math to figure out that's three which that's too many spins for somebody to be able to do in the air and not throw up on themselves. You can see why they came up with euphemisms, though. It was like, and she's doing one, two, three spins, three air spins. Three air spins.
Starting point is 00:06:00 She did back-to-back three air spins. That's like six spins. That would be me if I was an Olympics commentator. Sometimes they get too thick with the lingo, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I'm just like, what the fuck does that mean? They're like, Indy Mellon to nose bone. Sick.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And I'm like, all right. I mean, that shit looked dope. I don't know what a rodeo flip is, but I fuck with it. But both her and Sean White, the flying tomato, both looked like we talked yesterday about the Russian figure skater who's like 15 years old and who when you watch her skate, you can just like it's your eyes can tell the difference that she's like like a level above even if you don't know shit about figure skating. And like I had the same experience with Chloe Kim and Sean White. They were both just – they looked like their bodies worked differently with gravity than the rest of the competitors. They spun much more. You could really see like people torquing their bodies to get the spin where you just see the kind of cows just whoop.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I'm spinning out of it. Yeah. and that is my expert commentary on snowboarding uh but yeah shout out to chloe can i can't imagine that it was an easy thing for her to be like no i don't want to play violin and piano mom and dad i want to do snowboarding i'm telling you uh yeah i felt bad as a as a asian kid i felt like even the gold medal might not be good enough for her. Yeah. Didn't you say you told your mom that? My mom, she was like, what school did she go to? I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:07:31 She's 17. She's 17. High school. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Well, it should be Harvard. I'm like, look, Mom, I didn't go there. And she's like, that's why we don't talk.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Is that going to get her into Harvard? Yeah. She's like, I love the zeitgeist, though. going to get her into Harvard? Yeah. She's like, I love the zeitgeist, though. So just a developing story is over the weekend and towards the end of last week, one of Trump's main dudes, Rob Porter, was sort of fired slash resigned in a really like the description of it in this New York Times piece about his last few days makes it sound like he just could not get the hint. He would go back to John Kelly and be like, hey, so I'm having second thoughts about resigning. He was like, no, you're fired.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You have to leave. He was like, all right. And he's like, so I'll just take a couple days to get my stuff together. And Kelly's like, no, you need to be out of here. You're making me look really bad. days to get my stuff together and kelly's like no you like need to be out of here like you're making me look really bad and then like the next day he's still like gathering his stuff from his desk he's just like uh but anyways this guy's a human monster uh who apparently like uh physically abused two of his ex-wives and um yeah really just like horrifying testimony from them.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And it's wild how the White House just cannot get their shit together to like come out and aggressively be like, we have a zero tolerance policy on this kind of thing. It's literally the easiest thing in the world to just be like, that was bad. Yeah. This guy is awful. He should go. We finally got around to doing yesterday on the Sunday morning talk shows. They kind of all went out and blanketed the airwaves with being like, yeah, once we found out, we got rid of him. It's unacceptable. And that's what the president thinks. But man, the president on Twitter did not give that impression at all. No. The only thing he tweeted about with regards to this, and, you know, it wasn't necessarily clear that it was with regards to this, but he did tweet about how, like, you know, what is there no due process anymore? People's lives are being ruined over allegations. I saw that tweet.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I feel like every time I see a Donald Trump tweet, I have to, like, double check whether it's real. Right, right. I'm always like, is this a parody account? Please. He didn't say, Oh my God. No,
Starting point is 00:09:47 he did. Right. It's like the gorilla channel thing with pixelated boat. It's like, yeah. Where you thought that was where he thought it's hard to know. Yeah. But I guess that makes sense for somebody who has his own horrible history to
Starting point is 00:09:59 deal with that. Of course he can't come out and be like, yeah, that's a problem. Cause then the conversation would inevitably be like, okay, now what about you? Right. So the only card he can play is welcome these be like, yeah, that's a problem because then the conversation would inevitably be like, okay, now what about you? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So the only card he can play is, well, these allegations, man, they're lying. Yeah, and it's also just a reflection of his overall sort of – he treats this entire job like it's – he works off of loyalty only. It's just like, well, is this person my friend? Then they're a good person. And, you know, I think that works in business, especially when you have like a multimillion dollar head start because you invested millions of dollars from your father. But it's just he's not up to the office. Like, it just it doesn't seem like he has the faculties to deal with this job. No. I'm going to agree, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So I think he's not a great president. Call me crazy. Your thoughts. I don't know if anyone's noticed. happen where he'll do something that is, you know, from a PR perspective, just completely outrageous. And it overshadows something that was a story that should all we should also be outraged about. But it's sort of getting overshadowed by the domestic violence stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And that is the Democratic memo. Well, also not to forget that one of his speechwriters also had to resign this weekend. Oh, right. Before that became a story. So there was a second member of his, I i guess i don't know if speechwriters are considered cabinet members but somebody worked in the trump white house staffer who had to uh resign because the washington post found out uh about allegations from his ex-wife that he uh drove over her foot with his car and put a cigarette out on her hand.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And yeah, and the whole thing was like they called him for a comment and then he said no and then resigned immediately. Right. So, yeah, they have a lot going on. But yeah, I guess that does overshadow the fact that the Democratic memo, which people are trying to release, that gets completely consumed by all of the deserved outrage over how the White House handled these resignations and stuff. So just real quick, the Democratic memo. So Nunes released the Republican memo where it was his conspiracy theory. We talked about it last week, but just a refresher, sort of like his conspiracy theory based on a handful of very carefully selected facts from the Russia investigation that made it seem like, you know, the FBI was out to get Trump.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And the Democrats were like, OK, so if you're going to release that, then here's the other side of just that story so that we have complete information out there yeah because before with the with the new nez momo the doj dni their director of national intelligence like do not do this this is very damaging and he's like fuck it we doing it right now that the shoes on the other foot the doj and dni are also again with this one being like this also has a lot of sense of information and they're saying oh well we don't want to fuck anything up so we we should really reconsider this is a very sensitive document it's just like the selective outrages i guess isn't surprising it's to be expected so basically now there's like four options someone can yolo it on the floor and just read the shit out loud and enter it into record which technically isn't illegal um but would just be kind of weird uh they could kill the thing completely and just not do it
Starting point is 00:13:23 but i don't think that'll happen uh the house could vote to override the president okay yeah paul ryan will do that and or they can redact it and release the memo like they did the republican one it seems like that last option could be the one wait redact it like the republican memo yeah because they redact shit from the republican memo did they no yeah they did sort of relent and then redact certain things like that were certain details, certain details. But with this one, they're saying, like, we can just do the same process. Right. But we'll see again, because it doesn't benefit the Republicans to have this out. Now, I know smart people on the left and the right who think the Russia investigation is like overblown and they're like, you know, this is just
Starting point is 00:14:03 a thing that Democrats are doing to distract themselves because they can't accept that Trump won. I know people from both sides who say that and like I'm having a harder and harder time believing that with the way he behaves. Like it just seems unless you're just going to say he's like just accidentally behaving like a incredibly guilty person i'm just confused why he would be just as likely with this guy which is the crazy fucking thing about all this yeah that's true i mean who cares if it's overblown you might as well check yeah exactly yeah it doesn't matter right when especially when a lot of people are like warning me like hey there's something going on yeah from other countries might be smart to figure out what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And that only helps him if they go up and they're like, all right, actually, just turns out you're crazy. Right. And you don't like to look guilty about anything. So you just lie all the time. Right. But I guess, you know, they're out to get him. We will see. And we wanted to talk about just ways that the government is finding to fuck the little guy.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And there's a handful of stories coming together neatly for our theme. We're always hoping that we'll get a nice, cohesive theme. And the government cooperated by just fucking over consumers. Start up the outrage machine. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Trump administration. So, Miles, I came in this morning.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I said, did you hear about the change to Snap? And I was like, yo, people are heated. The layout of the new Snapchat is pretty whack and people are really fucked up over it. And I said, I don't really fuck with Snapchat, but I guess the kids are upset. Right. Which is apparently a thing that is happening. Kids are upset. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Which is apparently a thing that is happening. Anna yesterday was – super producer Anna Hosnier being one of the kids herself was like mad about it and said it wasn't lit, which is the worst thing somebody of that generation can say. But – That is a proper nomenclature. Yeah. So SNAP being also the food stamp program. Oh, you meant supplemental nutrition assistance program. Right. OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So, yeah, that's fucked up, too. Yeah. change the food stamp allowances, which nobody has had a complaint with other than, you know, extreme, extreme right wing people who still believe that welfare queens are a thing, which they're not. That was just a false story during the Reagan administration. So they think that people are getting by too easily on food stamps. And what they're proposing is to basically replace food stamps, or at least a big portion of food stamps, with a program where they ship canned food to people who would previously be able to go to the store and use food stamps to buy food for themselves. As Mick Mulvaney says, a blue apron type program.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yes. Okay. In what way is that blue apron? That food is being shipped to their house. That is it. That is it. Okay. Food in a box is blue apron quality.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Nothing fresh. Nothing fresh. Just canned food. Yeah. It's a predetermined diet that the government will send to you with things like peanut butter and pasta, shelf-stable milk. Oh, yum. Canned meats and fruits and cereal.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah. With no fresh vegetables or meat, which that's usually what's in a regular Blue Apron thing. I'm sure they'd be super receptive to people who have like peanut allergies or whatever. I'm sure the government would be great at dealing with those. What's even the proposed upside? Is that cheaper than the food stamp program? So what they're saying is that that would allow them to buy food at like in mass quantities and that would like give them a price break. Yeah, like at half the cost or something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right, exactly. But they're not counting all of the difficulties of like shipping. Like people pointed out that Blue Apron had a really rough financial year last year because it's just incredibly expensive to do what they do, like send food to people and give people any choice or a good user experience and deliver that food on time. So this goes against all research in sort of charity and how we give charity to other countries, how we give charity inside our own country has been leading in the opposite direction of this. It's basically been saying we would much prefer that you give people money or give the charity money so that we can redistribute that money to people because the best form of charity and the most effective way to help people is by giving them money because they know what they need. Like whereas canned food drives like people might not need canned food or they might not need like beef stew.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Beef stew might not be good for them because they have an infant. I don't need peaches in light syrup because I have glaucoma. Right. Exactly. That's what I need fucking help with. I think it's important to highlight. Right, exactly. That's what I need fucking help with. I think it's important to highlight this is not the people who are members of the program saying, like, we need money instead of food.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Just send us cash. These are people whose interest is what would make the best outcome for all of society, including economically. Right. These are studies. Right. So it's like, how do you not foresee the downstream costs if you're shipping all of your poorest citizens boxes and boxes of peanut butter and cling peaches? There's huge downstream costs there with food deserts and health care costs. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, and even with the proposed idea, they expect the states to shoulder all the cost of distributing and putting the thing together. So it's like it's just this fucking idea. It's not even a real thing. It's just like let's just see what people think so we can you know further help people who are uh poor feel ashamed of their situation right and the disparity is so bizarrely heightened in our country that it's like wyatt coke could probably just pay for this program out of his pockets like the change in his pocket for some reason this program made me think of wyatt coke too because the central ethos of this is rich white Republicans who think they know what's best for other people and that the problem poor people have is that they have too much control over their own decision making and that they just aren't like smart enough or capable enough to make smart decisions for themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And so that the real problem is that, you know, they need to make those decisions for them, whereas it's just, you know, every study will tell you the real problem is that they have been, you know, institutionally discriminated against both, you know, poor white people, poor black people have been institutionally discriminated against both you know poor white people poor black people have been institutionally discriminated against uh and america is not a particularly socially mobile society like americans think that it's all based on you know how hard you work and how much you're willing to pull yourself up it says it is on the box the box of that america comes right has a big shiny sticker that says socially mobile right there read the label right there. Read it. There was a Paul Ryan quote from earlier in the year where he was saying like where you are born has nothing to do with where you end up in America.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Oh, for sure. So the economist came back and was like compared America to other countries like Finland, Norway, Denmark, other Western countries. All those countries that are relatively egalitarian. And basically what your father makes allows people to tell within 20 percent what you'll end up making in those countries, whereas in America it's 50 percent. So it's like way more deterministic in the United States than in other Western countries that have more like socialist policies, what we would consider to be socialist. But now it's conflicting with capitalism because, you know, the huge opponents of this shitty Blue Apron for Pores program is the Food Marketing Institute, which is the largest like the lobbying group for supermarkets. Right. Food Marketing Institute, which is the largest lobbying group for supermarkets. They're trying to unload their cans like you are when you go to the canned food drive and give all the bullshit to the shelter. They're like, bro, you're going to send people boxes they will not buy at the fucking stores.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So what the fuck are you going to do? So this is a place where Walmart is actually on the people's side. Right. They're like, we like EBT because that means we get the money. Right. So it's really just a fight of who's going to get the money. Is it the canned food people or the food retailers? It's big box, you guys.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It's this cadre of box factories all over the country just trying to get everything boxed. In a box. I bet box business is booming. Yeah. You see boxes on the rise lately. All right. Let's talk about another policy that the Trump administration released yesterday. About another policy that the Trump administration released yesterday. So the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has spent the past – it was created by Elizabeth Warren back when she was still a professor at Harvard.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You mean socialist cuck? Right, socialist cuck, Elizabeth Warren. And it was basically after the financial crisis. They saw all of this rampant corruption within the financial industry. And they decided to create a independent agency that was able to look at financial services and, you know, fine companies if they did shady shit. And so far, since they were instituted in 2010, they've given back $11.8 billion to 29 million consumers since 2011. So that's an average of $407 returned to roughly 9% of the US population. So they're like, helping people out like that's giving back hurting the banks. So that's that is they're hurting Wells Fargo, Jack, the extremely wealthy financial companies that are like making record profits in the past 10 years have claimed that this agency is making it impossible for them to do business and so uh when trump came into power he put mcmulvaney
Starting point is 00:24:06 uh in charge of the uh cfpb and he fucking hates the cfpb has come out and specifically said in the past that like he thinks it shouldn't exist and so he announced that's all trump does though it's like i expected his secretary interior to just be someone who's like i only go outside And so he announced – It's just so insane. Just jamming it in. He's like, yeah, the new head of CFPB, Daddy Warbucks. Right. Yeah. So their policies, surprisingly, he recently requested a $0 budget for the January to March 2021, saying the Bureau would draw on their reserves instead because they're apparently just crushing it financially.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And then they are trying to change it so that they are overseen by Congress. The whole idea is that they are overseen by the Federal Reserve. And so they have independent funding. So like Republican, Democratic squabbling cannot get in the way of them doing their job. And they're basically trying to change that so that they are funded by congress oh cool yeah yeah so it'll effectively be the death of this agency that was in place for a very brief time uh and actually giving money back to consumers that could be a slippery slope because
Starting point is 00:25:39 if they lose the house uh you know shit could change but see. Yeah, it's weird how many organizations that get insanely profitable use those profits to craft a loud narrative that they're poor, like that they can't catch a break or make any money. And it's like, yeah, but you're crafting that narrative with a team of highly paid lobbyists. It's a self-defeating argument. Yeah. It's a difficult argument because, you know, people in the financial industry will just tell you, no, but you have to understand, like this bureau is like the worst. And, you know, I know a lot of these people and they argue it with conviction. And like, I can't argue with them because it's like they're saying, you don't speak Chinese. This person's saying a crazy thing in Chinese. So you just have to trust me. I'm like, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah, dude. The banks are hurting, man. I was trying to explain to my kids, man. They got to get an iPhone 6. Right. I mean, 6S. But, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You start telling your kids that. Right. It's true. The iPhone 6 sucks. My kid has to drive a used Range Rover. Okay. Shit is embarrassing. All right. The iPhone 6 sucks. My kid has to drive a used Range Rover. Okay? Shit is embarrassing. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:47 We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Starting point is 00:28:59 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.
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Starting point is 00:30:19 We wanted to cover some of the coverage, some of the reaction to the shooting, because it's, I don't know, it's kind of become surreal almost like at this point, the way that the media responds in the same ways. I don't know. It seems kind of clear to me like what the problem is, but they managed to, you know, write 80 stories about a mass shooting. Yeah. It's weird because we see it so much like
Starting point is 00:30:46 we're even predicting the coverage now it's like okay on fox they're gonna say oh wow we're talking about gun control suddenly and then on like msnbc or cnn it's gonna be about maybe gun control or but also like really personal stories about the victims and and people who survived and things like that. And like, I don't know, even since we've started doing the show, how many shootings there have been, some we haven't even reported because to an extent we've kind of normalized these things as a country, which is really fucked up. And then now I just feel like the coverage and our attitudes, like, are they going to shift now?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Like, can we then sort of make this more about how we are going to solve this problem than sort of like begin finger pointing? Because that happened immediately. Right. It's just finger pointing rather than how do we move forward? How do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Yeah. One thing specifically about the coverage that I think is interesting is there are these experts who like on social contagion and violence. They're like forensic experts who study like the aftermath of these sorts of shootings.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And they're desperately begging every time there's a mass shooting. They're begging and like putting out these petitions that are signed by thousands of experts to not show the shooter's picture and not say their name. You can say everything, all the biographical details. You can give all the details, but just don't make, right. Don't make them into antiheroes. Don't make them into antiheroes.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Exactly. Yeah. The problem with the coverage is that the coverage is monetized. And so the American culture doesn't have the self control to not want to know those details. There's just something fucked up where it's like, you kind of want to know what he looks like. Even if you know that's wrong, and news organizations know that,
Starting point is 00:32:30 and so it's like, who will be the bigger man here? And it's like, nobody is being the bigger man. There was a sheriff in Oregon who basically was like, look, I don't want to say the guy's name. I don't want to show his picture. It was a school shooting just similar to this one. And the Washington Post, of all people, were like, no, we need to tell people what they want to know.
Starting point is 00:32:55 This is censorship. And these experts are pointing out when there is a streaker at a professional athletic event- Feed goes off. Feed goes off. Feed goes off. Don't give them any air. They turn away because otherwise, you know, they don't want to encourage these people who are clearly, like, doing a stupid thing just to get their face in front of, like, millions of people.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They just, you know, know that showing them would encourage it. And granted, like, I've watched games where I'm like, damn, I want to see the streaker. Especially when it goes on for a while. Like, oh shit, he fucking just juked that security guard. Yeah, exactly. Watching streakers run around and evade security guards is one of the most fun things you can see at a live sporting event. It's liberating.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's good television, but they actually resist showing it because it's the responsible thing to do and it like avoids creating chaos and the mainstream media at large just can't like this is a huge event this is like a super bowl for yes mass media yes so that's one thing that i think could help but but the thing too is like i mean there are you know, news organizations that make money through subscription a little more on the internet, but it's all click-based money. And so there's just a huge incentive to get the most clicks, and it's just watering down journalism. It's not who has the best journalism.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's, like, who gets the most attention. Yeah, who can package this in a way that makes the most clicks. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. But so, yeah, when you look around, I mean, Fox, Laura Ingram on her show, she, after starting the show talking about the shooting, took six minutes, a whole six minutes out of her show to talk about how safe the AR-15 is, the weapon that was used.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's crazy because Chris Murphy immediately on the floor is like, we need to do something like when are we going to do something about you know gun control reform and then she goes i don't know i mean look the ar-15 let's just play the clip so you can hear this is what's happening on fox news in the aftermath of this shooting let's look at the ar-15 what makes it so popular and overwhelmingly what makes it so safe it's all over the country because it's a really good self-defense weapon i would have one in my home for home defense. Thousands of people have them in their home because it shoots very straight.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You can carry more ammunition in it. And it's actually safer because you're going to have less like the less you're going to have a lower. You have to pardon me. I'm teaching a course in Hebrew right now. So I'm all over the place. You have a less likelihood of sporadic fire or hitting innocent people if you're using it for home defense because it shoots really straight. So it's actually a very safe weapon. It's easier to shoot than a pistol. It's got more points of contact for stability.
Starting point is 00:35:34 But in the hands of the wrong person. And, again, where was the parents? What was the home life of this child? There's so much more involved here than the weapon. This guy, Chris, is so far out of left base. Aaron, there are some things we've learned. His mother died last year. He was adopted.
Starting point is 00:35:51 His parents, Linda and Roger Cruz, he's followed, apparently, according to Trace Gallagher, the Iraqi fighters online and the Syrian resistance. Now, maybe he was just following them, I guess, because he was curious. Red flags. We don't know more, but there's something, something, something going on there. So we'll learn more about that. There's something, something, something going on there. So they managed in one thing to avoid talking about gun control by saying,
Starting point is 00:36:17 well, it's the parents' fault, and it could also be ISIS' fault. Right. But not the gun, because it's the safest gun ever. Because what, I guess. It shoots straight. If in their right hands, it's the's fault. Right. But not the gun because it's the safest gun ever because what I guess – It shoots straight. If in their right hands, it's the safest thing. Right. I mean –
Starting point is 00:36:30 If all those kids had had AR-15s at school, then only like three of them would have gotten shot at recess that day. It's just frustrating because – well, also, first of all, the right wing was very eager to associate him with ISIS and radical Islamic groups. Yeah, and it turns out he trained with white nationalist groups. Wow. So – Yeah, he went to one training. I mean, to be completely fair, but the guy did confirm from the Florida Republic, which is a white civil rights group, that yes, that he did. Is that how they frame themselves? When are people going to fight for white civil rights group, that yes, that is that how they frame.
Starting point is 00:37:05 When are people going to fight for our civil rights? I say, but it's the guns like there's unless you just don't believe in statistics, there's no way to argue that it's not the guns. Yeah, they plot like number of mass shootings on a graph with number of guns owned in the country. And it like exactly correlates. Whereas if you look at things like mental health, which is what the media likes to point to, mental health spending, mental health problems, all mental health indicators are equal in like countries like, you know, Australia, the UK, Denmark, like all these other countries, France, you know, all these advanced countries are pretty similar to each other when it comes to all the mental health indicators. And mass shootings.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And the only other country that is close to us with regards to gun ownership is also, like, has a lot of mass shootings. So it is. What do you guys think about? Because there's such fatigue around. It's like this happens every time. And then the same statistics are stated every time. Right. And it's like, I don't know. It's true.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. I mean, like, we're even getting caught in the trap of the same trying to like walk this logical path towards. Yeah. Well, with all these things, knowing all this, then, yes, we need to address guns. Yeah. But it really doesn't mean a fucking thing if the legislators that are elected don't put forward bills and vote on them. Yes. To actually enact any kind of change. Yes. Right. Because we're I think the only answer is to continue to say the same thing over and over again because that's uh yeah or just hold these people accountable too who are making the laws though too like it's easy for them to you know hide under the fray that's going on because we everyone's so outraged and talks about all the whether it's gun control whatever it's like but what about the people who actually have the power to do something yeah well and the dark morbid thing that'll eventually happen and not i'm not is that a legislator's kid will get shot in a mass shooting and then suddenly they'll give a shit about this you know well because when you even
Starting point is 00:39:15 look at like florida for example if you really want to do something then i think we have to think about who we are electing into office because the republicans in the judiciary committee in the florida house of representatives they have like a stranglehold like the numbers are clearly laid out that pro-gun right republicans dominate the state legislature and they are passing bills left around like they just passed one last week that basically said that a person who has like a concealed carry permit doesn't violate the law if the firearm is, quote, temporarily and openly displayed. So what they were trying to do is protect people who had concealed carry laws that like if someone saw it and called the police on them, they would be written up because like you're not doing this right. So they built a law to protect people to sloppily carry a concealed weapon. That is like just basically an nra wish list piece of legislation
Starting point is 00:40:05 and you look at how easy it is to even procure a firearm in that state you have to be 21 to buy a handgun but this kid wasn't so the only thing they could sell him was a fucking ar-15 right yeah that's what a gun store owner says i believe the reason he used an ar-15 is because he is under 21 and you cannot purchase a firearm other than a long gun legally. So he went and it's like a liquor store refusing to sell you beer but offering you crystal meth instead because he went and he couldn't get a handgun, but he got an AR-15, which is the gun that has been used in all these mass shootings. And this was somebody who openly said he wanted to be a professional mass shooter. Which makes it even crazier because it seemed preventable in so many ways.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Because even the kids who were being interviewed were saying when he got kicked out, people were joking about how like, yo, he might come back. Or joking like, oh, he might shoot back or watch like joking like oh he might shoot up the place and the students even sort of they sensed that and and again this was something this is a thing that is preventable on many levels so if you want to take it the mental health route then let's do that let's have a real conversation about mental illness in this country and bring it out in the open so it's not so stigmatized for people to even think like oh i, I don't want to out myself as someone who has a mental health issue because I don't want to embarrass myself or shame myself. One of the initial Trump budgets that he put out last year
Starting point is 00:41:33 slashed mental health care. And that is the thing we spend the most on in this country, even before cardiac health is mental health, is by far the largest piece of spending that health care providers make. I don't know, man, anything having to do with changing the conversation of mental health just seems like it's fully. Yeah. But I'm saying if you want to do that, do that as part of the thing, but also really shore that up. Like, cause what happens is it's a mental health thing and they just say that to avoid
Starting point is 00:41:59 doing anything. And like, it's treated like, well, let's throw our hands up at the air. It's a mental. Well, look, then come at it from every angle from a gun control aspect from a mental health aspect if there really is that much to be done because yeah you can tell like even with on cnn they interviewed a kid who went to the high school who got out of the shooting and he said oh what do you want to say and he was like look i'm just a kid like we need the adults to like make laws that will actually prevent this yeah and if that's even being seen from the viewpoint of a kid, I don't know why we still are allowing people to sort of like weasel their way out of.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It's really embarrassing. Yeah. Right. I feel embarrassed about this issue because it's so obvious. It's difficult. What needs to happen is like monumental change. Right. Like disarming America.
Starting point is 00:42:44 That's intense. there's like so many guns in america it will be that's impossible it will be a decades long process but like you have to that's the issue too is like they're the legislators who begin this process won't be alive by the time it's solved so there's like not an incentive to like take action i think right yeah i'm reading this book better angels uh of Our Nature, that I'm required to raise once every episode. the human race from like for every 100,000 people alive every year back like in the caveman days and, you know, in biblical times. If you he just goes through the Bible and like outlines how fucking horrifying and violent life was that they depict. But he shows that, you know, violent crime and violent deaths have gone down to like a minuscule level. And it's just been people basically, you know, being brought under the rule of governments who they're willing to, you know, cede some control to.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And most of these Western countries who are comparing America to have let their government take away their guns. The only difference between America and these other countries is just that Americans, they basically formed a government when they weren't quite ready to give up their guns. And so they still have these massive numbers of guns. And also guns back then were like not AR-15s. Right. They took a long time to load yeah right and i mean the inventor of the gun has come out or his family i guess has come out and said he
Starting point is 00:44:33 specifically would not have wanted this gun at all to be in civilian hands and the idea that it would be would just be like shocking to him like uh know, this was initially invented to be America's answer to the AK-47 in battle. But then a gun manufacturer by the name of Colt got their hands on it, and they rebranded it as the Sporter as, like, a fun toy. And now you can get it in pink for your lady friend for valentine's day um so you know only to protect your home you know that's yeah in case uh in case via con come through you want to be yeah exactly you want to be stylish while you're protecting your children uh we wanted to name some of our favorites or our favorite and maybe least favorite rom-com tropes.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Favorite rom-com, go, Jack. Pride Notting Hill or Something About Mary, if you let me, if you allow it. It's not really a romantic comedy. It is. And it's a full-blown comedy. Yeah. Yeah, totally. It's about a guy getting a girl.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. And it's called There's Something About Mary. Yeah. It's absolutely a romantic comedy. There are romantic comedies. Just because there's J's in it, it doesn't mean there's J's. Thank you. Yeah. And it's called There's Something About Mary. Yeah. So there. It's absolutely a romantic comedy. There are romantic comedies. Just because there's J's in it, it doesn't mean there's J's. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:49 See, and I've been saying that the whole time. Yeah. So that's my favorite. Okay. Least favorite. Love Actually. Even though it's by the same guy who did Notting Hill. Not a big fan of Love Actually.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Aisling, what's your pick? What is my pick? What is my pick? Oh, I love. I'm not sure if you guys ever got it here. There'sling, what's your pick? What is my pick? What is my pick? Oh, I love, I'm not sure if you guys ever got it here. There's an old Pride and Prejudice,
Starting point is 00:46:09 not the Keira Knightley one. There's another one. It was the original one Colin Firth became famous for. And in it, there's a famous scene where he gets out of a lake and is like,
Starting point is 00:46:18 oh, grumpily shake some water off of himself. And I always liked that one because afterwards, you can't help but start speaking exactly like this the whole time. It's very hard not to start speaking in English yet. And it's all about manners and the sort of like looking at someone across the crowded dance hall,
Starting point is 00:46:36 but the dancing is really unenergetic and sexy. It's just walking up, shaking your shoulders, walking back. And it's just that sort of like back in the day dancing and i but it's it's all eyes and mr darcy do you think that for three pounds a year i'm going to marry someone like it's that sort of yeah yeah and i really like that sort of old they're doing a lot with just their eyes and a few manners which i think it's very interesting and you still get as much from it miles oh i Miles? Oh, I think One Fine Day. What's One Fine Day again?
Starting point is 00:47:08 One Fine Day is with Michelle Pfeiffer and George Clooney, where they're just single parents trying to take their kids to daycare, but they're also balancing their careers at the same time. I don't know why. How do they do it? I think, I don't know, it could be nostalgia. It was one of the first dates I went on in sixth grade. I took my sixth grade girlfriend to see and I felt like an adult.
Starting point is 00:47:28 This is one fine day. And it also made me think New York was the coolest place ever. What is sixth grade age-wise? Roughly what's that? Twelve years old. Twelve? You brought a girl to the cinema? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Miles, you little legend. Bought her a Diet Coke and everything. Oh my God, that's fairly advanced. You know, I took an eighth grader once when I was in sixth grade to see Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and everything. Oh my God, that's fairly advanced. You know, I took an eighth grader once when I was in sixth grade to see Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet. Oh my God, that's full on. So, you know, I'm out here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yes, as they would say. That's too advanced. Thank you. That's almost child services. I'm a little suspicious of you. Yeah. Well, you know, some say I was the original pickup artist, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Who was that some who would say? the original pickup artist. Yeah. Who is that some who would say? Mostly me in a sort of drug adult like drug induced
Starting point is 00:48:08 psychosis but yes that is me. When Harry met Sally can I throw that into the mix? Yes. Yeah. I also think that's
Starting point is 00:48:15 Trope wise though it always starts off with some level of deception like I'm an undercover journalist or like I'm not a shit bag or whatever and then they're like wait I'm in too deep or like in love. Is that how all relationships start with me? I guess true. Yeah. I'm not a shit bag or whatever and then they're like wait i'm in too deep we're like in love relationships start with me i guess true yeah i'm not i'm not a shit bag
Starting point is 00:48:29 that is true right from the beginning you're like no man well i'm really on top of my shit just in general i think the most misleading uh it's necessary for the purposes of all romantic comedies but uh the most misleading trope in romantic comedies is that dating is like really hard and like right because dating is the easy part if you're like in a relationship with somebody who's like the one whereas like you know a successful relationship years down the road is difficult but like dating is they have to like throw all these obstacles in the way of like people who are in love with each other like you know a bet or you know one of them being an undercover journalist who is just doing research on them or uh my other least favorite trope is uh
Starting point is 00:49:21 that rape is a funny prank like in revenge of the nerds and wedding crashers wait i don't remember the bit in wedding crash well when he's talking about when he ties him up yeah he ties him up and like it is has like a yeah he's like kissing on vince vaughn like the brother right i don't remember that bit isn't that though there's loads of well this is what happens with the me too campaign you go no it never happened to me oh no it has 18 times i just forgot that's right you just sort of tend to go it's so expected this stuff that you've and and yeah at the time it was like whoa isn't it funny that a dude like tied up another dude and like forced himself on it whoa right like was sort of like the vehicle that powered that and you sort of
Starting point is 00:49:59 don't notice it because you're like oh yeah this is awful isn't it but the the brother is involved at first, maybe? I don't know. I forget exactly how it happens. Revenge of the Nerds, which is like this beloved 80s movie that people have nostalgia for, the main character misleads a woman
Starting point is 00:50:17 into thinking that he's her boyfriend and performs oral sex on her. Oh my God. And that's like a gas. And even the fact that it's called revenge of the nerds. Yeah, exactly. Like revenge of any group of people on women is not great. When you start looking at all these little things, you're like, oh God, we got a lot of work to do, guys.
Starting point is 00:50:40 We're still kind of there because we're living in revenge of the anti-feminist internet user right so it's kind of the same thing that's what i mean it's almost like that's gone like that's gone darker now it's gone wow it is yeah all right well happy valentine's day yeah happy valentine's day thanks guys what a weird date i'm on all right we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:54:23 And we're back. We wanted to take a look at a twitter trend miles that you have been noticing just the last two days look white people don't want black people they don't want us to have anything okay so first fucking yesterday with the obama portraits like there was a coordinated smear campaign uh from the likes of the right uh you know because kahinde wiley who did the obama portrait also did versions of like classical art of like beheadings or whatever and he does it in a style like anyway they basically were just there was a lot of 4chan and and you know are the donald uh subreddit type freaks out there trying to be like oh this is racist this is bullshit blah blah
Starting point is 00:55:00 blah and just it was like just a coordinated smear and a lot lot of people suddenly became art critics yesterday when the portraits came out. They're like, oh, this looks terrible. This is not art. Oh, Michelle Obama looks like a pencil drawing or whatever. It's like, motherfucker, do you know art? Okay. Your avatar is you wearing a camouflage Under Armour hood. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Also – so that was one thing. And I was like, okay, whatever. This is to be expected because this is sort of the state of America. And I was like, okay, whatever. This is to be expected because this is sort of the state of America. But then also, as someone pointed out, how much there are people who really need to point out to black people that Wakanda, the imaginary kingdom from the Black Panther film that has many people excited, especially people of color, because, oh, look, we got our own movie now. That is seemingly unoffensive. So many people are tweeting stuff like,akanda is not real wakanda do they do they realize wakanda is not a real place dear black people repeat after me
Starting point is 00:55:52 wakanda is not real these are all different tweets i'm not just saying this over and over lol wakanda is fiction ancient egypt wasn't black wakanda is not a real place. So, look. But Gotham City is. And Krypton is real. And Dungeons and Dragons is real. It got blown up. Catch up. I read exactly that. RIP.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Rest in power to Krypton. But, yeah, again, Star Wars Tatooine is not real. Endor is not real. Look, we know Alderaan is not real. Hogwarts, though, real. Very real. Okay, don't fuck around with Hogwarts. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I mean, again, it's just I guess because of the idea that this is a place where Africans still had the agency over their own kingdom without colonialism or whatever to do as they saw fit. It's like, oh, my God. So it's people getting excited about the Black Panther movie coming out and white people responding by pointing out that the movie is fictional. Yeah, because, you know, some people in there, even on their Twitter names, are putting stuff about Wakanda in there. Like a citizen of Wakanda. Yeah, or whatever. And then that's got people so fucking angry. It's worse than a straw man argument.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It's condescending to someone who doesn't exist. It's like inventing someone dumber than you right so you could go um actually and you're just in our room alone like what the fuck are you doing i mean yeah you just got back like oh it's not can you show me any literature that proves wakanda is not real right and just send them on a i guess a very easy google search but yeah that's so that's that's new and uh white people don't want us to have anything news. So yeah, Wakanda's not real. Update, Wakanda's not real.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And also, you know, everything to do with the— Yeah, everything is racist. It has to do with the abominations. All right, that's going to do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. Geist, please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.
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