The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 111 (Best of 2/3/20-2/7/20)

Episode Date: February 9, 2020

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with guns in church voila you got straightway they try to save everybody listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Okay.

This may be alarming to you guys. I think kombucha tastes like shit. I'm furious. I think it's disgusting. Okay. And people have gone, no, this one's good. Try think kombucha tastes like shit. I'm furious. I think it's disgusting. Okay. And people have gone, no, this one's good. Try this. They're all trash. Trash. Is it the sort of vinegary aspect to it? Yeah, of course it's the vinegar. Vinegar tastes like shit. Salt and vinegar chips. Why? Oh, I love salt. Don't come after my salt and vinegar chips. I'm coming. I'm coming. I get it in the context of some of you drink, right?

You might not want that little bite. But I get it because sour tastes are in a lot of Japanese food. So I get it. But I'm never seeking it. But especially when you go out on the east side. Have you been to little parties? I live in Highland Park. It's all Booch cocktails.

I'm like, no, motherfucker. I don't want Jack and Booch. Okay, that's something that completely missed me. They do Booch cocktails. They're out here mixing the shit with whiskey. Or like Booch with alcohol in it. Yeah, it already tastes like something that's fermented, like that went bad.

Well, yeah, you could get a little buzz, you know, if you got the heavy kombuchas. But now they're really making it a cocktail someplace. Kombucha always reminds me. One time when I was a kid, I took orange juice on a camping trip. It was out in the sun. It went bad. It

turned on it. That's what kombucha has always reminded me of, is the taste of when I took a big old gulp of warm... Boy Scout Pruno? Yeah, Boy Scout Pruno. Exactly. I understand drinking it for its health benefits. I don't know what those are.

Right. It hasn't been explained to me. But if that's like, if you're like, no, it's, you know, it's taking like a shot of wheatgrass or whatever. But when people are like, no, it's good. It's like, well, that now you've gone too far. Like I'm willing to meet you there that they're antioxidants or something. Somebody ruined coconut water for me by saying that it tastes like it's been in somebody else's mouth.

And I was like, yeah, that's true. It really does taste like it's already just hung around in a mouth for a little bit. And kombucha has a loogie in it for the most part. It has a little piece of saliva hanging in it. What? What are you talking about? Have you never looked at the kombucha? No, man.

Because every time someone offers it to me, I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm going to have a sip. Yo. No. And that's it. You would look at it and think it is basically like iced tea. But if you pour that shit, there's like a loogie. Yeah.

It's fucking gross. Yuck. I'm nasty, though. People in the rest of the country are like what the fuck are they talking about this is like a true LA we're complaining about bad first class but you know what this is the getting to know you section

this is who I am and this is what it's like I'm sure it's everybody drinks it around the country in some places I'm sure it's everybody drinks it around the country in some places. Yeah. No, it's gone. It's just, it's, I'm sorry. It's just the cocktails.

That's when I had to draw the line for me. I'm like, no, do not try and make this. No, but mixing as a mixer. That's disgusting. Are you serious? Right. Let's talk about Papa John. Finally.

Okay. So do you remember in August we talked about that quote-unquote secret video Shaq took when he went to a board meeting of Papa John's? Corporate spy, Shaq. Hey, I'm in the boardroom.

We're gonna look at a secret meeting. And it was the most produced thing that you'd ever seen. And clearly there was a thing that they were alluding to called a Papadia. And we're like,

what the fuck is this? Well, now, hark and behold, death. The papadilla has arrived. Wow. And it looks like a flatbread. It looks like a soft taco, mulita kind of thing. Yeah, it looks like a Taco Bell creation. They want you to know off top, this is not a ripoff of the quesadilla, okay?

It's actually- It's called the papadilla? Yeah, but it's not a take on that, okay? It's actually inspired by the piadina, an Italian flatbread sandwich from the historic Romagna area of Northern Italy, okay? So even though it sounds phonetically more like quesadilla, God forbid Papa John's associate themselves with Mexican cuisine. Right, exactly. They're just getting over a racism PR problem.

And they're like, it's not. It's from the old country. Wouldn't it be Papadina? Yeah, Papadina. Papadina? Nah, because then they're going to be like, maybe that didn't test well. You know how they fucking... It's meant explicitly to be a case of...

Papa Pia? Papa Pia. Papa Pia. Papa Pia. The alliterative quality of that word, I think, really, Papa Pia. Pia Papa. Well, that's a thing. Mama Mia, Papa Pia.

Baby had a diarrhea. That's a thing. Baby had a diarrhea. That's a thing that you said. I don't know that. We were saying earlier. That's a thing. Baby had a diarrhea. That's a thing that we said. I don't know that. We were saying earlier. That old folk song from the old times. Yeah, so they're offering it in four different varieties.

There's Italian with Alfredo spicy Italian sausage, salami, mozzarella, and banana peppers. RIP your intestines. Who could possibly? Good thing that chef's kiss emoji came out. Yeah.I.P. your intestines. Who could possibly? Good thing that chef's kiss emoji came out. Yeah. For that one. The Philly cheesesteak.

That one makes more sense. It's still gross. Philly sauce. What's Philly sauce, Jack? I don't know, man. Cheese whiz. Yeah, probably whiz. I guess.

Yeah. If I had to guess, I would say it is mayonnaise. Is Philly sauce? Well, just based on every execution of Philly cheese steak that I've had from a mass chain. From Papa John's. And here's the mayo you always wanted. Yeah, here's like hot

steak, like hot wet steak, some manner of cheese, and mayonnaise. Which the heat just turns into translucent grease film. Anyway. If you were lucky. Then they have grilled chicken and bacon. Chicken, onions, bacon, mozzarella barbecues.

Okay, that's straightforward. Meatball, pepperonis, spicy meatballs. That's the only one that makes sense to me. Pepperoni, pizza sauce, mozzarella, Italian seasoning. Yeah, they have spicy meatballs? I'd fuck with that one, actually. You think it's really going to be species spicy, though? Probably not.

No. No. It's going to be boardroom spicy. Yeah. Right right which just means like oh my god did you crack some pepper over this right hot hot hot for one second yeah i mean you know i think all credit due to like every great american company knowing look we have a racism pr crisis we'll hire a person of color to be the new face and all is forgiven. But shout out to Shaq for getting the bag. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. They definitely, definitely an upgrade from... From the sweaty man who's... Yeah, just a wet, large, bloated racist. What was his stat again? He's like, I had 40 pizzas in 30 days. Yeah, yeah. I've been having... Yeah, it was something like 40...

I went to college too. Yeah. What's your point? He was talking about it as he's been evaluating them. He's been doing that as part of his overall commitment to... It's like Bane

from the netherworld. It's not part of his job. He just does it as a a, it's a calling. I think that's what he was trying to establish. Always stay vigilant. Yeah, just to keep an eye on like our pizza offerings that we have as fast food. Does he eat just Papa John's branded pizza?

Or is he doing deep recon on all the... Well, that I've had 50 pizzas in 30 days thing was a run-up to him criticizing the Papa John's pizza. So he was trying to act like, look, I'm not just taking shots because I'm an angry guy who got fired for a good reason. I had 50 pizzas in 30 days and it gave me diarrhea. Something needs to be done about this.

What's going on at Papa John's? PR crisis much? And he also in that same interview talked about how a day of reckoning is coming, which is Yeah, it was weird. That FBI should be keeping an eye on that. He's sweaty pizza Bane.

He's going to walk out at the Super Bowl after bombing the field and being like, yeah, your day of reckoning is up. It has arrived. I've had 40 pizzas and terrible diarrhea in my weird coat. I was building to 40 pizzas in three days. We need to keep an eye on Papa, but shout out to Shaq and the new Papa John's. Somewhere in this article, they talk about how it's it. Cause it's not a flatbread thing.

They say we use Papa John's classic crust that everybody loves to make this abomination. And so that's just a folded pizza. Right. Oh boy. Come on. We were doing so good, man.

I guess. Oh, pop that. What are they going to do now? Don't, don't bring this truth out into the light for everyone. New York pizza is already folded. I wonder if they're making it on a panini press. I don't know.

Either way... Do you think they put little grill marks on it? Yeah, maybe. If they grill it, then it would be a little bit different than the toaster conveyor belt that they send other pizzas through. I'm assuming that's how Papa does it. Yeah, wow. I'm just not sure how Papa does it. Yeah, wow.

I'm just saying there might be... I'm sure there's a little more nuance to this item. Don't count it out just yet. I'm just saying, texturally, there might be something different about it. It's got a little bit of a different mouthfeel than traditional pizza slice. Let's talk about Wendy's breakfast. Okay, thank God. Let's switch gears to something really invigorating.

I love a good fast food breakfast. Okay. Mickey D's is still my number one, but Wendy's is out here. As they say, they are unleashing new breakfast materials. I did not know about now. Some people apparently may have been in limited markets, but this new shit, um, I'm just looking at this Baconator breakfast sandwich. It looks like a guaranteed heart attack by bite three. What about it makes it a breakfast sandwich, the Baconator breakfast sandwich? Because it has egg and a sausage patty. But then everything else, bacon, American cheese.

I thought that was a burger. No, no, no, no. And it's on a burger bun, though. Yeah. Huh. What about the, so that's a biscuit that has fried chicken on it? Yep. Did I hear there's-

Because it has bacon, it's breakfast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's like a chicken biscuit. You know, that's how we navigate that one. You know what I mean? Love the context. Did I hear they were going to be doing Frosties with cold brew? Yes, you did.

No, you didn't. A Frosty Chino. She did not hear that. Yes, it is. What? Oh, wait. Actually, no. The Baconator has a burger patty in it.

Pardon me. Pardon that. So it just has an egg. And they're like, breakfast. That's breakfast, bro. Blow it out with that. But then the other ones you can use traditional breakfast meats. But yeah, the Frosty Chino.

Yeah. Oh. I found out about Wendy's breakfast because I had a friend who auditioned to be the voice of it. And she was like, I'm auditioning to be the voice of Wendy's Breakfast. And I was like, what the fuck? Why didn't I get asked to audition to be the voice of that? What the fuck?

And so Wendy's Breakfast is like starting off on a bad foot with me. Yes. Not that- Secret hater. So you're someone's secret hater. Do you want a Baconator? Like, I'm clearly not the voice. I don't know.

I'm like, ugh, a Frosty with coffee, you dumb piece of shit. Oh, I'm sorry, Megan. Can we try that one more time and just stick to what's in the sides there? Okay. Baconator. Great. Do you wish that the Frosty would make you have to shit incredibly bad? Immediately?

Like, speed home? So good, though. Oh speed home. So good though. Oh, yeah. Dipping those fries in it? Is that? Well, now will they be dipping tater tots? Yeah. Yeah, or maybe French toast sticks?

I'm sorry. I have to, this just in. The Baconator does have a sausage patty. The Breakfast Baconator. Okay. So it is, they're trying to respect the sanctity of the breakfast mix. This is like the Iowa caucuses. Yeah, you never know. Your reporting So it is, they're trying to respect the sanctity of the breakfast mix. This is like the Iowa caucuses.

Yeah, you never know. Your reporting on this is just back and forth. Yes. We're hearing. Yes, and they do predict that this will contribute to a 10% growth in sales. Okay, great. March 2nd. Well, it turns out we're all okay because children's books are here to save us.

Thank God. So our writer, J.m mcnabb has so the books are gonna save us uh has a child i can take my hands off the wheel i can stop caring good books got it uh so our one of our writers jm mcnabb has a son who is in junior kindergarten and they pick a book once a week at the school library and the one he picked was called Bully and it was about a frog with a bunch of wilting flowers for hair that were

sort of orangish and it turns out it is explicitly influenced by Trump and it's a big metaphor pro-Trump he had the most beautiful flowers on his head influenced by Trump. Oh. And it's a big metaphor. Pro-Trump.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. He had the most beautiful flowers on his head. It's a perfect book. Look at this frog. Kick every other frog's ass. Go with the winner. Look how big my fucking frog feet are. But yeah, so he kind of did some research,

and there are a bunch of different sort of ideologically influenced children's books being published in 2018 scholastic published a book called president donald trump as part of their rookie biography series and uh it you know was just a very straightforward book that was like he became a president millionsions of Americans are counting on to improve their lives. And there was this poem. The end. Yeah. And it worked out. I mean, because if you were to be honest about it, it would be too explicit for a children's

book. Right. That's true. It's like he has been credibly accused of sexual assault, kids. Yeah. What do you do about that? Right. They're going to have enough time in their life when they're scared

and in pain. Let the children just be children for a bit. Just don't make the book. It says, a poem about Donald Trump. His buildings reached into the sky. His businesses just grew and grew. Then Trump became our president. People wanted something new. The end. That's written by a child.

That's in the book. Wow. His businesses just grew and grew. The end. That's written by a child. That's in the book. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. His businesses just grew and grew. There's also the pumpkin in the pantsuit. So this is a story that is wildly discouraging to me.

This is ridiculous. The cover art alone. We're looking at the pumpkin in the pantsuit. It's really something, folks. Mind-altering. I don't want to see that ever again. They somehow made Trump actually look like a wrinkled pumpkin with weird eyebrows and I'm guessing

they've reduced Hillary to a pantsuit? Yes. Look, we're still going to be re-litigating 2016 in like 40 years. These kids are going to have time to go through this pain. Don't do it to them now. Let them just play for a little bit before it descends upon them. There's Liza, Jane, and the dragon where a dragon with an orange mane is hired to be Liza's new parent. And then she realizes that the dragon kind of sucks.

The lying king. Wait, I'm sorry. Was hired to be a new dragon? Yeah. Hires a dragon. Is that like a job opening where you're like, all right, dragon, you're hired to play my father. You don't need a subtle analogy to teach children

to hate the things you hate. That's the point of having children. You teach them to hate the things that you hate and it's very easy. You just tell them, this sucks and we all hate it. And they're like, okay, got it. They're screwed up for life. Yeah, they're screwed up for life. They spend the rest of their life trying to undo the presences of their parents.

And, you know, we have a good system. We don't need subtle analogies in books. There's also the lying king about a warthog who lies in order to gain power and the king who banned the dark about a king who installs artificial sun, but citizens revolt when nobody can sleep. That actually sounds kind of cool.

Yeah. What is that? What's the meta? Wait. Okay. Because he doesn't like the dark? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, so it's about getting just like vilifying things we don't know or are afraid of? And he's also a rapist. That part's pretty on the nose. Yeah, I think't know. Oh, so it's about getting just like vilifying things we don't know.

And he's also a rapist. That part's pretty on the nose. Yeah, I think that part too. And then a book called The Wall. I mean, it makes sense, right? Like people feel very powerless to try and affect change with people who are fully formed adults. So if you're making kids books, you're like, well, the way i can fight back is to at least have these things and indoctrinate them with these kinds of stories that makes sense yeah i mean i don't the

other thing is i don't know how many kids are gonna go wait a second the pumpkin in the pants suit this is about donald trump what are you trying to tell so in a way you don't need to go this sort of hard on those images yeah if you images as long as you're the lessons there. But what the fuck do I know? I'm not a child development expert. I want to see the pro-Trump books. They got to be out there. The Perfect Phone Call.

Daddy, read me The Perfect Phone Call again. Right. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. generation of like nine to 17 year olds who are currently being uh you know turned into conservatives by youtube videos so maybe this is like the the generation coming up behind them but if this is what uh progressives have instead of youtube videos uh progressivism might be in some trouble yeah and yeah i mean there's there's also deeper lessons than like it's bad to be a bully Instead of YouTube videos, progressivism might be in some trouble. Yeah. I mean, there's also deeper lessons than like, it's bad to be a bully, right?

Yeah. And I think, I'm sure there are plenty of books that aren't so narrowly trying to be like, I got this kid's book in the form of a Trump diss. Yeah. But like, truly like, stories about empathy. What's there? I've read books like that. Sure. Giving Tree.

That actually achieve that. Yeah. Classics. Giving Tree is dark as fuck. It is dark as fuck. A lot of children's books are fucked up. It's just a metaphor for being a parent that is passive aggressive about how selfish children are.

It really is. And then they die. It's actually a good lesson. It's a good lesson for parents. I don die. It's actually a good lesson. It's actually a good lesson. It's dark out there. It's a good lesson for parents. I don't know if it's a good lesson for children. Well, it's like if you have kids, they're just going to use you up and then you're going to die.

But what do the kids get out of that? I don't understand why that's a good – Maybe people will stop having children and it'll help with overpopulation. Just don't have kids. That's the lesson here. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Yeah, by state. One thing I just want to say right they start off saying the projected spend uh for like valentine's day i don't know if this is the year but they this is the this is the wording as valentine's day indulgences go candy is a relatively inexpensive one it's also become a tradition and is a nice and easy gesture to make that could be why people are expected to spend over 22.4 billion this year, up $600 million from last year. I'm not spending that much.

What the fuck? Are people... I mean, I know if Valentine's Day came to be a thing, you panic buy it at CVX just to give to somebody. It starts a massive argument and they throw it away. It's just candy hearts and chocolate. There's more? So apparently M&M's is on the come up.

It's moving up very close. So in California, third place goes to chocolate roses. Chocolate roses is not a thing that I have ever given or really even considered giving. Like chocolate dipped roses? Like they're shaped.

These taste kind of weird. Just eat up. Eat the bulb. They're like, these taste kind of weird. Yeah, just eat up. No, no, this is what they look like. Eat the bulb. They're like plastic stems with chocolate candy in the shape of a rosebud and then wrapped in cellophane. Conversation hearts. You know, for the environment. Is the other one.

That makes sense. That's a staple. Yes, that would be. Conversation hearts is funny. I've never thought of them being in conversation. Hello, I love you. Right. Be mine. What a vapid funny. I've never thought of them being in conversations. Hello, I love you. Be mine. What a vapid conversation.

I will. Yeah, and then number one, heart-shaped box of chocolates, which seems to be the one for everyone. Jack, where's the state you live? Let's go look at what's popular in Ohio, shall we? In Ohio, third place, Conversation Hearts. What the fuck is Cupid Corn? Oh, I'm going to guess. in Ohio, third place, Conversation Hearts. What the fuck is Cupid Corn?

Oh, I'm going to guess. It's candy corn, but it's pink and red instead of yellow and orange. Yeah, you got them. Got them. Exactly. Wow. And then Heart-Shaped Box. No, no, no.

Then, yeah, Heart-Shaped Box of chocolates. Is there one state where there's just something really, like it's not even a can? It's like grain alcohol. It's like one bean. Chocolate hearts is as kind of out there as it gets. That's Maine's number one, chocolate hearts. That is so Maine.

Right. So Maine. Hershey's Kisses are also big. Pennsylvania makes sense. M&M's. You think, are M&M's also? No, that's Mars. Yeah.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. What's going on, Pennsylvania? Yeah. Pennsylvania's got M&M's. You think, are M&M's also? No, that's Mars. Uh-oh. What's going on, Pennsylvania? Yeah, Pennsylvania's got M&M's, so does Texas. But are they Valentine's M&M's? Texas is kisses. Yeah, Cupid corn is the one thing I see on here that I'm surprised

is consistently coming up. This is where maybe I'm an outlier, but I have always said I cannot say candy corn. Alaska's number three is something I've never heard of, cinnamon bears. Oh. The fuck are those? Made with real bear. Yeah. What is a cinnamon bear? Ooh, Florida, we've got to change. Last year's winner, Conversation Hearts, but this year, Heart-Shaped Box of Chocolates has overtaken. Man, we are not original.

I mean, I guess this is typically a holiday where men are buying gifts for- Yeah, so it's everyone's chocolate and roses. Right. Number one, whatever's on sale at CVS. Alabama coming with the surprise. Number one, candy necklaces. Oh. All right, Alabama.

What is that? But that's for like kids. Right. Not in Alabama. Can you imagine those shit? You're like, that shit will get you in trouble. If you're an adult, you're like, I got you this candy necklace. You'd be like, get the fuck out of here.

They probably put it in like one of those fancy boxes like in a pretty way. Yeah, like a felt covered box. Yeah. Cinnamon bears are just basically gummy bears that are just chock full of that cinnamon spice. Arkansas number three is Ghirardelli gift box. Wow. Fancy, Arkansas.

Damn, look at you, Arkansas. Okay, Arkansas. Candy necklaces, big in West Virginia, West Fulging. Ghirardelli gift boxes are also third place in Iowa and Kansas also. Huh. So people like that. And second place in Maine. I guess that's like if you're classy, you know, like, I think Ghirardelli, that's that fancy shit.

That's Italian. Yeah. From San Francisco. Utah, it's just whole milk. One, two, and three. Hell yeah. Interesting. I'm going to take it down a percentage just to get frisky

the i think the most creative valentine's day gift i ever bought uh for her majesty was a hanging plant okay that i crushed it that year yeah because everyone was like i before that i was like flowers which were appreciated but i was like nah like i was like let our love grow like this hanging plant still have it to this day chocolate bears isn't that a thing chocolate covered gummy bears that's that website you're going

damn nailed me I've been zinged and I love it to quote Apu speaking of us being fucked the gig economy I've been zinged and I love it. To quote Apu. Speaking of us being fucked, the gig economy. So before everything became an app, we used to do things like ask a friend to help us with moving, which was annoying. Or asking people for a ride to the airport, especially annoying in LA. But that was like a thing you did.

You did favors for people. Yeah, easily. And then they would do favors back to you. Yeah. And then you would develop something called a friendship. Then they do favors back to you? Back to you. Back for you. They do a favor at you.

Do a favor on me. Yeah, do me a favor? Do three favors at me. Do a favor on the small on my back. It's changed. I remember being like, yo, dude, give me a ride. I'll smoke you out. Right. So the whole thing, it's changed. I remember being like, yo, dude, give me a ride. I'll smoke you out. Right.

You know what I mean? Here, I'll give you something. Help me move. I'll smoke you out. Help me out. I'll smoke you out. Take care of my child. I'll smoke you out.

Raise my son. I'll smoke you out. Be the godfather of my child. I'll smoke you out. But yeah, like now, if you, you know, like, you know know cabs and nannies and other things like that have existed but they used to be only for accessible to a certain class and now like if you have a any amount of disposable income there's a way to like whether it's an uber or a task rabbit people can start solving problems just by sort of just throwing money at it and it makes sense

too because on some level like you would never expect these people to just do a favor for a stranger for free so there is some kind of monetary exchange but now what would fran drescher's star rating be if she was like a gig economy nanny was she a good nanny she was right i had never like she was really there for them she would i mean she was definitely unorthodox but i think the love was there absolutely um but there's like there's a professor on culture and media uh who's like writing writing a book that's called uber worked and underpaid how workers are disrupting the digital economy uh it says what used to be friends among favors now has a price tag to pick up from the airport hauling clothes to laundry or helping to paint the apartment and we are now witnessing a financialization of activities that used to be

an expression of social capital which is interesting because yeah like there was uh this helps create community right you know like you knew like oh hell yeah like that's my friend let me help you i know there will be reciprocity at some point but now that we're able to just sort of be like i don't want to inconvenience them on some level these things do help because it there are people who will take advantage of your kindness and you can set boundaries and be like look i can't do it because you're trying to take advantage of my kindness call this person yeah but at the same time you do lose that bit of feeling of connection where like there is sort of community to a certain extent right yeah i think i mean we know our neighbors less than we used to which i think is a thing that's been happening

for a while now but is probably at its peak so we're doing this live show that is about like partially about the tech bubble bursting and like the thing that seems to be changed like there were these companies like pets.com that were essentially amazon for pet products and now amazon is the most successful company ever amazon is amazon for right amazon is amazon for pet products and everything else and the innovation is they've figured out that they can just like treat people like shit kind of like behind the scenes and as long as we don't see it they can like just make that into economies of scale that they can just like turn into all the money in the world well i think in the 90s right it was harder to get as many people

who would go for this kind of work because there were still a lot of jobs available to most people right and then as the economy began to get more and more depressed like like i think amazon came about at this perfect time where now you have people who are like i'll take i'll take any kind of work because they're the apps like the wage stagnation and things like this is preventing people from being able to live properly right so yeah i think they're the thing about the like knowing your neighbors in the mid-70s there's a study they say in the mid-70s only about 20 of americans said they had no interactions with their neighbors now it's like

over a third yeah like and increasing more because yeah most people are sort of just walled off i don't know it's different it's a lot different and even now like i try and make a point to talk to my neighbors because like there's there's something weird about just not knowing somebody yeah and if like you kind of want to know like you live in a community you know like where a if keep an eye out or something if you saw some shit like holler at me like oh i saw your you know your package was outside for two days i brought that shit in because i don't want somebody you know that like there's a there's a benefit to that but i think it's it's really easy to not do it and these apps and things i think almost make like it makes it easier for us to forget that those are bonds we kind of need to maintain, what we've taken for granted. Well, you're also like,

it's a good thing to be more connected with your neighbors and stuff. But when you're given the option to be in another community, like on Reddit of people that, you know, is a more vetted more uh filtered uh representation of your likes you're you're naturally gonna want to be like sure well i'd rather talk to these people than these people who could have wildly different opinions oh yeah of

course it's it's a hard yes yeah that's the same i mean that's the same with amazon like to be like the convenience and right and the uber like you're you're yeah i mean uber is a definitely picking convenience i think it was jelani cub uh was writing about how i mean writing about he tweeted that like the whole you know policing how much people tip and like being like look at this receipt from this famous person. They like barely tipped and just how we like that. That whole thing is just companies transferring the fact that they don't pay their employees enough onto us. Yeah, absolutely.

Like Uber was just like, OK, now there's a tip button and you subsidize their wages. Right. You subsidize their wages. Right. You subsidize their wages because we don't pay them enough. And also there's an incentive structure where they rate you. So you have to tip them a lot, basically, or else you're going to get a low rating. But at the same time, it's like a service we didn't used to have. Right. What happens when you i i

honestly don't know this what happens when you the writer have a low rating on uber do do drivers not pick you up or do they play music you wouldn't like or like what is the you're canceled i believe yeah just in general you're does it have to get like really low though yeah and then they put a tweet out and they say this person's just canceled yeah because they're uber everyone i think it just i think probably at a certain level you might not be able to use the service so producer anna hosnia is saying that they also team you up with uh drivers who have low ratings oh that's why so so if you're a one-star guy you get a one-star guy, you get a one-star driver. Yeah. Wow. Do you think there's anybody, either driver or rider, who has one star? Probably not.

I think the lowest I've ever heard of is like four, six. Oh, really? Yeah. Nobody ever gives like a, I don't know. Yeah. It depends. I mean, it takes, I think we've talked about in past episodes what it takes for you to fully be like, I'm going to fuck your rating up as a driver like this was actually fucked up

because most of us know like there is it this is where i guess the sense of community does kick in because you begin to be like i don't want to like fuck up your money right being like give you a four star or something like right and i also three star whatever yeah it's it's really the the decision you're making when you go from five to four is is it like do i want to steer this person's life in a different direction so that they can't make as much money at this right so that because they shouldn't be driving people for a living like that's the decision-making process that I would have to make to go from five to four. Four means

you've failed epic. You've failed and you need to start thinking about a different career. That's wild that it's a one-star difference. But that's a B, right? Yeah. B means you should get the fuck off the roads. Yeah, nobody gives low ratings because we're all... It's like that uh

black mirror episode with bryce dallas howard is that a wrestler or an actress uh bryce dallas howard she goes in the ring no but it's uh yeah where everyone's just like five stars and five stars and we're all good yeah yeah exactly uh anyway well it's like almost a given you're like five stars five stars yeah good yeah yeah like cool cool that's our new social contract right um that is where i do see that like because it's weird thinking about like you see uh i've had like seen like three star or two star reviews for restaurants on yelp and been like yeah but i want chinese right now like i'll go but if i see a four-star rating on uber i'm like well they do wait you'll do three or two star rated food restaurants let's move on to the

next topic wow wow so you're just willing to like put actual garbage in your body huh yeah give me that papadilla. Yeah, papadilla. That papapia. There's an auteur in the world of advertising whose work I didn't realize I was such a fan of. I didn't realize these two projects were linked. So there's this guy, Peter Arnell, who was responsible for the Pepsi campaign, the pitch doc from an advertiser about the redesign of the Pepsi logo to make it so that the wavy line does not go down the middle of the circle, but it's like off to the side a little bit.

I just want to, I do want to. I mean, look at that. Yeah. He is ingenious, you know, from taking it from the regular Swizz regular To just kind of off to the side My man's printer was weird That's what happened One of the pages I just want to read to you guys The header

Breathtaking What is this? This is from the doc that they Presented to Pepsi As they were like here's why you're paying us 20 million dollars and this is why and we just like tilted your logo to the side right uh so header of one of the pages breathtaking creation of identity colon the pepsi universe on one side it says universe expansion okay the universe expands exponentially with and then they just like throw in a bunch of like equation shit million miles per hour and then they have like a globe

thing x equals one light year on the right side the pepsi orbits and it's the old logo it's old logo dimension dimensionizes exponentially pepsi planet old logo pepsi galaxy like 20 different pepsi logos orbiting around one another well it's hemispherical i see what's going on here jack okay it's hemispherical okay it's expansion yes we're going now to a three-dimensional plane. Yes. So on the left side, X equals one light year, X equals two light years, X equals eight light years. And it's just the same picture made bigger and bigger. But on the right, it's Pepsi Planet, just the old logo. Pepsi Galaxy, the new logo orbiting around something.

Pepsi Universe. the new logo orbiting around something pepsi universe and it like they made it into a an atom that where all the like quirks and electrons and shit are the new pepsi logo uh and it is it's just breathtaking i wonder anyone taking bullshit if anyone is actually familiar with astrophysics maybe this does make sense but not a chance but i'm just saying maybe like in where if you're just using the logo to represent like electron motion or something like that but what does that actually but it means fuck all to why the you change the logo and also you are having to like just make up what the what the original pepsi logo looks like on the side like that's all made up with money that's all

made up i mean look you know how these meetings go right you know like you get in there you say something smart enough and like trippy they some people be like oh my god well right fucking genius it's trippy shit said by people who don't have the mind for trippy shit so they are just like that's that has the sound of like something smart, but they don't have the imagination to like hold the idea of smart and like trippy and like sort of out, it was like the box early, like early Jaden Smith interviews. Right.

When he would just say some wild trippy shit, like you just overheard some adults say that. This whole pitch deck is big. Jaden Smith energy. Like 100%. Yes. Super nice dude. I'm sure.

I think now his intellect is catching up to him as he gets older. I think he's going to be our next president. Our next great astrophysicist president. No, but I'm sure they were very nice when they presented this deck because they got millions and millions of dollars. When was this? It was like early 2010s, I think. Yeah. Damn.

So that is from a guy named Peter Arnell. He's also responsible. Well, first of all, Gawker did a profile of him where they talked about the 15 worst bosses in New York City. And he is apparently up there. The guy with the galaxy brain? Galaxy brain guy. Who would have thought?

Yeah. I'll just read some from that profile. Once he freaked out in a meeting because the CD did not work in the CD player so he took the CD out and smashed it into pieces on the conference room table the IT guy who was standing behind him ended up

going to the hospital because the shards from the CD flew into his eye when you go to a meeting in his office he makes everyone wait at the door then directs each person where to sit by hierarchy and whatever mood he's feeling oh which that that really resonates with the pepsi uh pitch doc because it's all about like his idea of like universal organization millennial vibes like the as as the light years expand exponentially, it's like, all right.

Was the Pepsi redesign considered a failure? Or is this, like, a laughingstock once people got a hold of this material? Just a laughingstock once people got a hold of the material. Because I think most people were like, okay, fine. Yeah, we didn't care. I'm not buying more or less Pepsi because you moved the squiggle over. Yes. But anyways, another piece of work that I hadn't realized was his. So Tropicana used to have a very recognizable carton and it was, they were the only, like they were the first to get to fresh squeezed orange juice.

Really? It's wild how they did it. They created these giant vats. They look like big, like things that you would assume like gas is being held in like natural gas, but it's actually giant vats of orange juice that have all the oxygen sucked out. Like they can hold your orange juice there for like years. Oh,

cause it doesn't like oxidize. It doesn't oxidize. Nothing, nothing bad happens to it. The only bad thing that happens to it is tastes like shit it stops it loses all its flavor so what tropicana had to do was so you're still drinking fresh squeezed orange juice or technically it was yeah it's three years ago uh it's three years old but it hasn't you know it hasn't been touched by oxygen so so it's fine. It just lost all its flavor. But then they added this thing that is like a flavoring.

It's like the essence of orange. It has nothing to do with the taste. It's all scent-based. So if you can't smell your orange juice from Tropicana, it won't taste like oranges to you. I feel like I've had that when I had a cold. But if you don't have your ability to breathe though, that affects your,

your tasting ability. No, but like I have, like I know people whose sense of smell doesn't work. Yeah. Like who had like some damage or something. Oh, you're saying if you're,

yeah. Got it. And that, that affects your ability to taste things. And like, it's all like olfactory is like more, uh, tied to like what you think things taste like. But what about the new factory? That's all, like, olfactory is, like, more tied to, like, what you think things taste like than what you realize.

But what about the new factory? That's right. So, anyways, Tropicana had the game locked just with this carton that was an orange with a straw in it. That was genius. That's genius. With the little, like, barber pole stripe. Yeah, with the barber pole stripe. I remember the commercials. I'll be like, I remember trying to drink an orange Yeah, with a barber pole stripe. I remember the commercials.

I'll be like, I remember trying to drink an orange like that as a kid. Yes. Like that communicates every fucking thing you need to know. Love it. So this dude comes in and changes the carton to be a glass of orange juice. That's it. Like just a big glass of orange juice on the side. Near wine glass. Yeah, it like just a big glass of orange juice on the side near wine glass

yeah it looks like a wine glass so it doesn't even look like the orange juice that you were used to uh and the tropicana logo going up the side it i remember being like did they get rid of tropicana orange juice yeah like what the fuck happened to tropicana orange yeah and then like because he also fucked with the logo uh they lost 33 million dollars in sales and immediately had to change the design back oh they just went right back i yeah i think they went pretty much back oh wow close to being back to what it used to be right or at least having like a orange on right rather than like an obscure an obscure glass of orange juice that could be any orange juice.

Like any... It could be from concentrate. Oh, shit, yeah. They just went back... They literally just went back. Yeah. Like, give me the orange with the straw in it.

Yes. Stop fucking around. Yes. Hey, they tried it with that like minimal design. Yeah. No. It would have got you points

at like Art Center. Right. You know? I felt like that wave was happening though with like Uniqlo and all these minimalist-type companies. It's just like, don't mess with our orange juice. Yeah, it just doesn't work for that.

Right. We're not looking for beautiful, future-forward, 8X light-year design from our orange juice cartons. And also, it wasn't even a good design. I wonder what that deck looked like if he was saying the pepsi thing was all about you know atomic sub particles and shit like that sure he was like nah see the future people will not actually be drinking oranges with a straw inserted into it right what they will be doing yeah exactly yeah they we will all be drinking

our orange juice in the form of a mimosa. Yeah. So it should be a champagne flute. Yeah, that is what it evokes, is mimosa. I wonder if for him- And the coloring isn't even good. Yeah, it doesn't look like orange. Well, I mean, I don't know if the, you know, we don't know exactly what the colors are. We're going through a screen.

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I mean, she was very apolitical up until maybe a year and a half ago, a year ago. In a study, very explicitly apolitical. People were like, yo, you have a huge conservative fan base, probably. Can you say something? And well through the 2016 election, she was like, nothing. But it turns out it was because she just didn't think Hillary was woke enough. No, I have no idea why. I don't know.

Has she explained that? What was she thinking? I think she just didn't. I don't know if she knew if she felt responsible to say something like the responsibility of having to say something or whatever but or maybe they realize maybe it's better marketing yes i think that's what it was it used to be possible to sit this one out and it became uh wildly unprofitable for her to continue to sit it well she's doing fine in the profit department.

Right. That's for sure. Well, now she is. But she was, I think she was. Before she was struggling, huh? I do think this was a smart business decision on her part to, like, and probably a studied and carefully chosen decision. I'm sure.

In the, I mean, to us, it did very well. But reputation did not do banger did it like no i don't think so no i don't think so but i think it's more hate does leave that happen i don't think it's really about album sales anymore so much as it's about like endorsement deals like oh your their money's coming from live shows right that's that's where all these artists make their money now it's from selling out stadiums right and i think you know i think she actually does believe these things but yeah like at a certain level it's like your brand is being managed by so many stakeholders like you don't know what to do and i think now with her new documentary miss americana she's got this song called only the young and it's

you know before things had like a political tone but now it's the lyrics are like the game was rigged the ref got tricked the wrong ones think they're right you were outnumbered this time okay wow a little bit more it'd be a lot harder to criticize or it'd be a lot easier to criticize that if we hadn't just made the exact same metaphor about the refs being tricked yeah um fuck oh god are we stealing from i mean it's like simpsons she's also the new simpsons and that every joke you try to make taylor swift's already right yeah then she also says uh like sort of about mass shootings you go to class scared wondering where

the best hiding spot would be and the big bad man and his big bad clan their hands are stained with red huh it's awesome she's she's got a history of doing these flip-flops and having it go well for her yeah when remember when she wasn't on spotify and like that was a big deal people really were upset that her music wasn't on spotify and then when she finally did put it over there it was huge yeah when any other band would go it's like yeah you should build all this anticipation and then release it so if she's like switzerland on politics you know and then goes hard one way right that's gonna make there's some impact and that's i mean i think i i'm just glad to see people with audiences try and like

yeah let them know it's like just so you know like i'll try and use whatever platform i have to like actually have some kind of a message that isn't just like is trump that bad right you know what i mean because they're people are could easily be doing that or saying nothing without realizing how much their fans like care about what they think or believe and if that can help some people then you know fine so be it personally when i go on stage uh doing comedy my life's passion i uh i like to say you heard about you heard this trump guy yeah what a bozo yeah this guy's this guy's a straight up doofus i try to just pepper that in there And be like wow okay He took a side and I appreciate that

Just off top I think Trump's a bozo And that hair hello Do you ever call him a cheeto Because that is funny Because they're both orange That's one of my favorites I like to call him an orange

Oh shit But oranges are But a blood orange That's one of my favorites. Right? I like to call him an orange. Oh, shit. Wow. Because he is orange. But a blood orange. Or conflict orange. Oh, shit. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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