The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 114 (Best of 2/24/20-2/28/20)

Episode Date: March 1, 2020

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated.

And this comes from the fact that we've been traveling a lot. But hotel towels. I always want to say, like, okay, you know, you get a nice hotel. This towel should be fluffy and smooth. Soft. They're so crispy. But they're over laundered. Yeah.

They're bleached. Which I understand. I do want a clean towel. But at the same time, it's so rough. It's a little softener. Come on, baby. Treat us good. I'm like, I'm dry now. It's me just wiping my skin with a towel.

It's weird. I feel like maybe there has been an arc. I used to think hotel towels were the apex of towel quality. Right. That's what I did too. And, but that like, I don't know. That was like my perception maybe in the like 90s and early 2000s. And then as I, maybe as I travel more as an adult, rather than like a wide eyed, like

minor who's dependent on their family's money. Right. You start being like, man, I paid all this money for this shit right this was a kid i'm like i can use nine towels right and i feel like spas like have you ever been to a spa got good towels spas got the good towels or like even like some gyms have nice towels but i wonder is it like the presidential suite that they save all the nicest towels for or something? Yeah, that's a good question. We should get a presidential suite. Yeah, we should do the next one.

We book a presidential suite just to see what the towels are like. The second we get there, we'll be like, actually, bro, I don't need this room. Downgrade me to the cheapest room you have immediately. I need my money back or else I'm going to have a panic attack in the lobby. My wife was in Las Vegas last weekend. She was volunteering, knocking doors. It's not true. She was there for a fun thing.

I think he just switched it on us. She met somebody who had gone for the Tyson Fury fight and had ordered a room that was wild expensive at the casino where the fight was.

It was like it cost what a presidential suite would cost. It wasn't even at the casino where the fight was. Oh, boy. And it was, like, it cost what a presidential suite would cost. It wasn't even in the hotel. It was in a different hotel that you had to, like, walk through, and it was basically, like, a towel closet. So that's just something to keep in mind. If you're ever going to Vegas...

Or was it at Mandalay Bay? I forget where it was. Yeah, because that sounds like when people go to Mandalay Bay, and they're like, you're actually at the hotel, which is a walk on the other side of the property. Yeah, exactly. So watch out for that, guys. What is something you think is overrated? The gut. Everyone, like how you feel. My whole book is about the expertise

over the gut. So I think, you know, I just had an instinct or I just knew like, as David Foster Wallace said, like the thing that I most intimately know in my gut is that I am the most important person in the exact center of the universe. Right. Yeah. It's a very good point. Yeah. And I've heard you kind of talk about this in relation to both Trump and Bernie Sanders

and like sort of the populist movement being something that uh appeals to the gut as opposed to the the brain uh what is that is that kind of where you're coming from or is that yeah the the feeling that some other person or group of people are out to get you and that the system can just be fixed if we just get rid of the bad guy instead of actual systemic fixes right and that you just feel like something is right and you just feel like you know more than the generals that that's the stuff that scares me right oh man the amount of missed whatever's the book of mistakes the gut has led us to also yeah just as important yeah um yeah i. Yeah, I think that, do you think that Sanders is equally guilty as Trump?

No, no, I think he's guilty, but no, not at all. They're not in the same league. Right, because I mean, I see how his sort of villainization of the wealthy could be seen as an easy answer, but it does seem like a lot of his proposals are fairly systemic. They're not just like- Some of them are, but some of the systemic ones also seem like they're from the gut. Like when

he talks about putting a farmer on the Fed Board of Governors, I feel like we'd have two reasons we wouldn't eat if he did that. And some of his proposals, I think, are really – like the economist he has, I think, is very fringy and doesn, some of which are that rich people are stealing money from poor people kind of illegally in shady ways compared to we just have a system in which people are allowed to accumulate. It happens above board. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about – yeah, I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the flat Earth group. I'm against them.

Okay. Okay. Ah, man. Wow. Didn't see it coming. Huh. Damn it. No, so there's a guy by the name of Mad Mike Hughes who was trying to prove that the Earth was flat by going into space.

It seems like there has to be an easier way to do that. Well, a lot of the other experiments they try end up proving that the Earth is round, and then they're like, well, nah, it can't be that one then. Okay, got it. Like in that Netflix documentary, famously, they did an experiment where they were sending a laser across, like a distance that was just enough that you would be able to detect the curvature of the Earth.

And sure enough, that laser was pointing at an angle because detect the curvature of the earth. Uh-huh. And sure enough, that laser was pointing like at an angle. Right. Because of the curvature of the earth. And they're like, nah, man, this can't be it. Let's check it again. Right. And they're like, nah, man, it's right. Huh.

And then it's like back to the drawing board. So I guess for Mad Mike Hughes, he was like, I'm going to make a steam-powered rocket and go as high as I can, and then I'll be able to see from up there. That's the deal. I can see the ice wall from here or whatever he believed he would see from up there. Or he could just get on one of those cruises that goes around the world. Right.

Well, in those ones, there's other things about like those cruises are ran by like, you know, the global cabal of like firmament deniers who want you to believe that the earth is round. So the cruise ships will never actually get to a place where you would be able to see what they believe is the edge of the earth. But how do they think you get back to where you started? Did they turn around at some point? They think they turned around.

Oh, yeah. It's a hoax. Man. Everything is a hoax. Australia is a country where people fly to. But it's a hoax. But it's a hoax with actors. Australia is...

Australia is not real? Australia is not real. It's actors. You know what? I spent a month there and I think they may be right. It seemed a little too close to the Western US.

They had that weird... It just seemed like I hadn't gone that far. Right. And sometimes they would slip out of their accent just accidentally. Yeah, it was like

a little too cowboy. Come on, this is fake, guys. Yeah. So this guy, right right he took on saturday he went up in his rocket there's a video of it and it's just pretty sad like yeah it goes up there was supposed to be a chute that deployed for him to safely return and the chute just i think deployed incorrectly no it deployed right away like as oh as it was taking off like the initial plume of whatever was propelling him upward was like had a torn up parachute mixed in with it like as it cleared and then it just

came right back down yeah and this sort of proves my theory that rockets don't exist there you go they don't really work yeah yeah the thing was he was recording he was doing a new tv series called homemade astronauts on what in this article, describes the U.S. Science Channel. Which isn't a thing. I don't know which one that is. Yeah, again, a myth. I think they meant, because it's from the Independent in the U.K., the Science Channel here in the U.S. Is there a science channel?

Okay. So what they said in their statement is, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends during this difficult time. It was always his dream to do this launch, and Science Channel was there to chronicle his journey. But that's tough. I mean, the guy, that's such a weird state. Like, you were making a show. Is this like a real channel that I'd get if I had a cable box?

Yeah. Really? And so they were okay with this? That's not good. That's a weird statement to have for, we basically captured and we'll probably be exploiting this man's tragic death for our show, Homemade Astronauts.

Yeah. Even the name is like dangerous. Knife catchers. Yeah, right. Science channel. It's like, whoa. Check out the new spinoff, Baby Knife Catchers. So yeah, that is an interesting statement from them.

Holy shit. Do lots of people die on reality TV shows? Like, ice road truckers? Are people dying all the time on TV? I remember on Deadliest Catch, very early on, there was, like, someone passed away, and that was, like, big news. They went overboard?

I think so, something like that. Like, on camera? I don't know if it was on camera during production. Okay. Someone, like one of the crew people, I don't know if the crew, but like, or people on the boats did. But I don't, not that like, I know that it's like a dangerous path. Like that reality, I mean, reality, being on a reality show ruins your life in another

way. Yeah. Not in a physical way. But it sometimes doesn't. Like I tried out for the real world London and I got to the final, like when they fly you to New York and interview you. And I've interviewed the guy who got my place instead of me. And it didn't affect his life that much. No one remembers that he was on it.

Oh, really? Yeah, it rarely comes up. It's interesting. That cast was a little bit hard to remember when I think about it. Especially the guy who was kind of like me. Yeah. I like how you said it. I met the guy.

In my mind, you've been stalking him just to confront him. I like, I like how you said, I met the guy in my mind. You've been, you've been stalking him. Hey, motherfucker. Remember me? You're like, what? Did,

was he, did he look like somewhat similar to you? Was it, were they like casting to a type? Yes, they were casting. Did you guys like get along really famously? I never, I know.

I only called him recently for something I was working on. So I never, I never met him. So he was like, he's a playwright. And yeah, they cast him instead of me because John Murray, when I interviewed him later, told me that he was afraid I'd never get laid. Wow.

Did he really? Yep. Wow. Cutting. No, but tell me what you really thought. Correct. Yeah. Even with the help of a TV show.

Which one was it? It was the real world London. No, but which guy on the cast? Was this, oh, I'm blanking on his name. See, this proves my point. Mike, Jay, Neil? Jay. Jay.

Which Jay's last name? Jay Frank from Portland, Oregon. Yeah, that's the guy. Okay, fantastic. Yeah, this was a, when I look through, I'm like, I don't really remember many of the people from this. I remember Jacinda. Yeah, I remember that.

Didn't somebody get their tongue almost bitten off in real world London? Oh. Or am I thinking about a different one? Forrester. Forrester. But in making out with someone? I think so. The most notable event of the season occurs when a cast member and singer, Neil Forrester,

kisses a male heckler during a performance who then bites the tip of Forester's tongue off. Yeah. I remember that being. Wait, so he forced a kiss on a heckler and the heckler bit his tongue off. Yeah. That's how when you break it was going to happen. There it was.

There it was. There it was. I was just, it would be so interesting if you went and like looked at this person's life and it was like one of those longitudinal studies of identical twins where it's like, they have like all the same things, like all the same interests.

Oh, right. It's like I have three kids, and their names are the same as your kids' names too. If real-world casting was like that. But, you know, I think this is – I think my theory with the real world not ruining your life is I feel like those early people, like the first five seasons, they got away pretty scot-free.

It was somewhere between a social experiment and what we have now. Miami cast, I felt like the temperature started to get turned up on the real world, where we saw a lot more interesting, darker shit going on. Our characters were a little bit more. So you think it affected their lives more, or they were just already messed up and continued to mess up? Well, I'm curious about like Ruthie from Hawaii who like had it was like struggling

with her drinking on the show. And even remember afterwards, people were saying like that lifestyle was only contributing worse to her alcoholism. Well, it seems like they started drinking a lot more on the show. On the show. Yeah.

I don't know. Hey, look. Like there was actual, I remember the first season, there was actual boredom where they were like sitting around and like shooting pool and being like there's really nothing to do because they don't let you watch tv so they're like something's gonna happen because you're not allowed to watch tv you're not allowed to like do anything besides interact with each

other and so i think what a lot of our instincts are when we're forced to be in socially uncomfortable situations is to drink. And if they just provide you with a place and an environment to drink in, maybe it's not the best. I mean, I think Ruthie's doing well because she's posting really great travel pics. Hell yeah. So she's definitely been to Mallorca in Spain. That seems right. Yeah. What is a myth?

What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, well, I run in a pretty liberal crowd, and the myth that bothers me the most is that Trump voters are ill-informed and voting against their own interests, and if we just explain things to them, they'll change their mind. Right. No, but here's the deal. Right. Your factory job is gone.

Your soybean tariffs are hurting your, yeah, that's not going to work. Yeah, yeah. They know what they're doing. People vote altruistically, right? So like lots of really rich people who are liberals will vote for higher taxes. And lots of farmers will vote for soybean tariffs because they're voting for what they think the country should be. Right. Which is sticking it to the libs and just like cultural stuff. Like, well, why do you think when because you for your book, you went down to a town that voted more uniformly for Trump than any other.

Yeah. Ninety six percent of the county, the highest percentage of Trump voters in Texas. Yeah, 96% of the county, the highest percentage of Trump voters in Texas. And would you say that that was an experience that revealed something to you about Trump? Yeah. Or what they're preserving? Yeah. I think that there's a cosmopolitan elite that I'm very proud to be part of. And the way that I connect to the globe and think about the world is so dystopic to these people. Right.

When they think about Los Angeles or any city, they think about homeless people and people who don't know their neighbors and people who are looking at their phone all day and only interested in their status. And they just- Wait, where's the lie? Right. Where's the lie? No, they're not wrong.

They're not wrong at all. But they see that as like- But boil it, distill that down to, right. They see that as the future of the country. And they want to stop that and restore it to kind of what you still probably see in the shrinking rural parts of this country. And it's an existential threat to them. And they do not like Donald Trump. But they have said to me, like, if you have a cockroach infestation and you hire an exterminator and he has his butt crack showing and he's cursing

but he gets the job done you hire him yeah right yeah famously comparing uh the diverse population to cockroach yes that's good oh boy yeah okay i get it yeah cockroach yeah you got the roaches here you know what i mean that was one of the times i felt uncomfortable yeah there are a couple things said that i was like oh please don't make me write this in my book because you seem like such nice people. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

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podcasts. And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back. So we have a very strange crime story from Florida. Yeah. So we have all the little details because it from Florida. Yeah. So we have all the little details because it's Florida.

The headline is out there. So I'm just going to describe what happened. Apparently, this woman, she was arrested because her boyfriend was found in a suitcase, dead. And when the cops said, they're like, yo, what's going on here?

She said, oh, you know, we're playing a little drunken's going on here she said oh you know we're playing a little drunken game of getting the fucking suitcase apparently we're like they were both drunk and like i guess taking turns getting in the suitcase but when he got in she admitted the that she zipped the man in the suitcase and then went upstairs and then like woke up like she passed out and then when she got there he was dead inside this suitcase um but that was just the beginning because the investigators obviously like they you know took her in they take her phone yeah they find two different videos that may indicate that this may have just been a murder so yeah not like it's like you know a drunken game of

getting the suitcase went awry right so they said one video shows uh the man in the suitcase just yelling saying he can't breathe while she's like laughing no yeah um and she's like laughing at his like screams and then he's like i can't fucking breathe seriously he facetimed her from inside no no she was videotaping him yeah yeah yeah um and then but, but this is where it gets, I don't know, this is a little bit darker. So she's saying, yeah, that's what you do when you choke me.

She said, that's on you. Oh, that's what I feel like when you cheat on me. Damn. And they were like, so then the cops, there's a moment, this, in the write-up, the investigators were grilling her about it. And then the line, it says, she does admit that, quote, quote look bad um and now she's being charged

yeah right i don't know what that means she is that happens in movies and the people end up proving their innocence but i don't think i don't think that's a good thing to say to the police when you're being interrogated no look i get it this looks this really bad but you don't play a suitcase zippy eppy right this is what i think because he cheated on her she wanted to get him back or sometimes in there hopefully mostly or consensual sex he chokes her more than she wants at least it seems like from what she said so she devised oh i'll get in the suitcase and then he'll get in the suitcase and then i won't let him out and then he died maybe by accident but then she just wanted to not take ownership over any of it now it's all falling apart or he was like it was a straight up abusive relationship and she decided to just off him like that come on that's a lean

into that but that you'd think that would be's like, yeah, this guy's a monster and I had to protect myself. I didn't mean to kill him, but I was trying to get him back. I'm just trying to think of how that plan goes in her mind ahead of time. How do you get somebody to

voluntarily climb into a suitcase? Because you gotta go. But why is it even a thing? Let's see if we both fit in a suitcase because you gotta go that's how why is it even a thing let's see if we fit in the suitcase i guess it's like i would stupidly walk into that track yes you would be like if someone brought out a big ass suitcase that she can't fit yeah yeah i'm so claustrophobic i wouldn't get in but the i'm stupid enough the principle the idea i could get stuck it into something like let's see if we can walk across this like yeah yeah like it into something like, let's see if we can walk across this. Yeah, yeah. It appeals to stupid human experiments, basically.

Yes. And I think, too, if the woman was smaller, but she was so small in the suitcase, he's like, I bet I could. She's like, I bet you could fit in this thing. He's like, yeah, probably. You're drunk. You pass out.

I don't know. So that story is developing. That is nightmarish. So the thing that killed him was just being like... No, he died of a broken heart. Alright, let's talk. Do you guys have strong opinions

on whether it's GIF or JIF? It's GIF. Alright, moving on. I think this dude who invented it and then went up on the uh webbies or stream whatever well no but i think he like legitimized the gif stance like i think we were well on our way to just phasing that out and then people were like well the guy who like

anytime anyone calls it gif they're like well the guy who invented it says it so that's right and it's like it's obnoxious yeah that'snoxious, and it's an acronym in the first place. Right. Yeah. Is it? Yeah, graphic inner something. Graphic interchange format. Graphical interchange format.

And there's a hard G in graphical. Right. So it's not giraffe-ical. It's certainly not, Miles. Giraffe-ical interchange. And also, GIF is already a thing. It's already a type of peanut butter. But the way he said it, right?

So in 2013, maybe he was on a tour. I don't know if this was the moment you were there when he said it, but he was just out there saying, like, it should be pronounced GIF, like the peanut butter, rather than a hard G. Okay. It's funny. Early on when GIFs first came out,

I remember hearing it both ways because I just don't like but this was before like there was enough internet talk about it like you could just grow up with the bad habit of hearing somebody say GIF and you knew it as that I heard it as GIF I preferred it based on what I saw right now uh and I think also too it's important because GIFs are like part of our digital vocabulary now like i know people who don't even use words anymore right they only they only communicate through gifs right um so giphy which is that website that basically we get 99 of our gifts from whenever we're like it's built into so many apps and things like that they are you know teaming up with Jif, the peanut butter company, to fucking put an end to this debate.

And what they're doing is they're selling jars of peanut butter with the G on it instead of the J. But it says, GIF, animated looping images. Hard G. Okay? So the press release is kind of funny, too. It says, we're teaming up with Giphy to put a lid on this decade-long debate and prove there is only one GIF. It's creamy, delicious peanut butter, not a looping picture you can send

to make friends and family laugh. Wow. This was from the vice president of marketing of GIF. And it says, if you're a soft G, please visit GIF.com. If you a hard G, thank you. We know you're right. I had to read it like that because if you just said to somebody, you a soft G or you a hard G, you got to say it like that, homie.

Yeah, I mean, this is good marketing, but it's also, they're on the right side of history. I would love for the owner, though, to keep this debate going. You know what I mean? Just as far as he can, just push it. I feel like he, and he would probably be like, oh, excuse me, I think I would know I invented it. But that has nothing to do with how people are processing the letters.

Yeah, language changes just based on what your intent was in the first place. That doesn't matter to any of us. Right. It shouldn't matter, unless it's somebody who is in a weird little pedantic rut or something. Pedantic rut. Wow, cutting. Cutting. What is a myth? like in a weird little pedantic rut or something. Pedantic rut. Wow. Cutting. Cutting.

What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? This is something I realized recently, and I don't know why I have to constantly explain myself before I tell you, but something that scared you as a child or freaked you out because you didn't have a good enough understanding

or context of it doesn't necessarily mean that it won't do the same as an adult, even if you've grown and you've learned and you've read and you've got all this context for things. Because I've been having a tough month, and my mom is so... She's like a devout Muslim woman. Seems so at goddamn pace all the time. Nothing, nothing can... Unwavering. She's always like, hey, you know what?

I just know that there's a plan for me and everything's going to be okay and I'm going to make it and whatever happens, happens. Which, when you're young, that's infuriating and you're like, you don't get it, mom. Right. As I've gotten older, I'm like, God, how do I find this piece she has so

she was like i don't know like look at the quran again i don't know like read something try and find something that you enjoy like and again she's never really pushed islam on me because it's kind of her own thing like my dad's very secular so she's never felt the need to be like you have to do this because it's almost as if she doesn't want me in her hangout with her girl group. Anyway, she does. She has like a straight very intense group of Muslim friends and they do Quran study every Friday.

It feels like a party sometimes where I've been at home and walked in. My mom's like, can we help you? And you're like, oh. Alright. Okay. You kids be good now. Am I lame? Yeah, she's like, okay, because we're doing something here. Right.

So, you know, I, and as a child, I flipped through the Koran just casually trying to like learn, read, and it freaked me out. It was just so, I think just like the practice of like the certain thing, like the ideas that they put forth that you would like have to like apply and like think about. It too much for my like my little like six-year-old seven-year-old any religious test text yeah like that for a child maybe even i was like 10 i can't remember exactly but it really freaked me i had like nightmares like i was scared the jinn was gonna come get me or like it was like all this stuff that i didn't understand to create enough context understand like no it's just like uh it's it's not like a creature that's

coming to get you it's it's just like a yeah we internalize these sort of right and and then i i looked at it again because i was like i'm gonna try and find some peace and um it kind of didn't sit right with me i don't know there was some certain it didn't hit as much where i was like a creature is coming to get me you know it was it was more just like the, the things I was reading, I, I, I, it didn't sit right with me.

And, and it's not that I'm like saying like, like, you know, Islam Quran is not for me. The Quran is not for me, but like, I,

I didn't know how to take, it felt so real and so like rooted. And like, it was just like some, I almost felt like I was being like, like I was, um, being invasive into a religion that I wasn't allowed in because i didn't have my mind wasn't open enough like it really it hit me in a way i wasn't expecting where i was like

i might one i was like i'm not pure good enough for this like i don't feel like i should be allowed to even like apply any of this to my life it It was a weird thing. Like it was maybe a little bit more of a mature reaction, but it still hit me in a way that unnerved me. Like I was like, Oh, like I, I'm just so set in my ways now that it's going to be very hard for me to start internalizing any of this because everything I'd be like,

what? What? You're doing that as you read. Yeah. Like I, my reactions to it were, um, a little unnerved, and I think I just, I wasn't raised in it, so I don't know how to take it in, and I think it also kind of freaked me out. Sure.

Well, I think it's also like, you know, on one level, we have to be open to things, and I understand, too, especially reading any kind of religious text. I think if I picked up a Bible now after going to like Lutheran and Catholic schools from kindergarten to 12th grade, there would be something I would feel slightly disingenuous because at the time I was never really engaging in any, like I had no beliefs that were rooted in it. Um, but I think there's something too, like, it sounds like you're at a point too, where you kind of, you, you're looking for a new way to sort of take in your life experiences. And I think that's always, like, the most stressful times we have, at least for me personally, are typically when I'm on the precipice of some kind

of sort of shift in my thinking or perception. And that's typically when we're at the most anxious because everything we were using to sort of make sense of the world isn't quite giving us the same level of security or, like of anymore and so it sounds like you're on the point of a breakthrough you know and for for 14.99 you should buy my tapes yeah i was actually gonna ask yeah yeah no but i think it's i think that's important but yeah also recognizing too like you know you're you're we're all looking for a new ways to process our experience too and sometimes we have to let go a new ways to process our experience too and sometimes we have to let go of new things develop new ones yeah but it's a process you know i think

what you're saying about like feeling like you were walking in on a party that resonates with me like you know having been in recovery for a few years now i think a lot of what people replace like substances and like things they used to use to like get out of their own head right with is like spiritual stuff like spirituality i know for myself i used to use like alcohol and you know other things that i don't use anymore to achieve some of the things that like people use like spiritual things for now i think there's like something connected there right and then i think it's just hard to think your way out of anything that's like mental because like we don't have access to 90 of our mental processes

and like we're inside of them so it's just hard to i always say like i feel like we're uniquely bad at judging our own selves and our own minds because it's just we don't have the perspective like that's what that's what therapy is so like trying to solve a problem like you're having or like you know just think your way out of something that goes back to how you were raised and your childhood is just so difficult. Well, and we're also taught to think about a problem, to solve it. It's like, I have a problem,

so now I will think about it. And now I have completely, my thought process has been completely taken over by obsessing about a problem. Because it's like a habit of being like, well, that's how you solve it. You think about about it but it's actually not the way to solve anything right like there are problems that i think that maybe have some kind of process to it that you can solve by being like oh this bridge has collapsed how do we solve you can solve that but if it's sort of

like holy shit man like uh you know especially for me as like a creative or something right you have fucking uh imposter syndrome or some shit and you go man fuck dude like i don't know let me think about this shit it's at that point you've only you've only surrendered all of your energy to a magnifying your problem you're actually not solving it you're you're expanding it exponentially and it's making it even harder to get out of because the solution has become think about the problem right rather than okay this problem exists but there is a way to pivot to what this how i move past that how i solve that or acknowledge that the problem exists but then bringing in other energy into your thought process of like but i'm doing these things right

right so that might that might be in one, but I think purely obsessing about our problems is a bad habit we have, which is sort of born out of how we're not really told about our own mental, emotional hygiene. It's just sort of like, yeah, you got a problem, we're going to obsess about it.

Yeah, that and I feel like sometimes you forget that an outside perspective is necessary for someone to stop you from spiraling in a way. Oh, for sure. Be like, well, I don't see it that way. And you're like, wow. That's why I got to listen to these Tara Brock meditations, man. You know what I mean?

You got to look inside yourself, recognize that shit, and also realize that's not me. That's a thing happening in my experience. But it's very easy to then replace a problem by somehow that being like your identity or your existence is that problem. And it's not. I actually prefer the Tara Reid meditation. That's awesome. She has some interesting things to say. Amazon has opened the human-less grocery store.

Better than a human grocery store where you buy humans. But still, this feels a little bit post-apocalyptic. It's called the grab-and-go concept. Yeah. I mean, they had the other one, like, they had that convenience store in a few places. Where it's, like, all monitored by cameras, right? So it's basically that

same exact vibe where, like... You sign in when you walk in. You walk in, scan your QR code from your amazon tattoo that's on your the base of your skull when they walk in they scan you in um and then from there like what's they so the same thing tracks your movements knows when you pick stuff up immediately starts calculating and once you walk out boom it's it it just charges you um they do have some people there obviously obviously, like stock the shelves and answer any questions.

But the thing is, that has more than those convenience stores that are mostly just like snacks and shit. This is like full-on produce and all kinds of other stuff. So get your meats, your beers, what have you, and walk out without having to interact with a human. Yeah, that's the thing.

That's the selling point. But that's the's the death yeah that's the death of us it's interesting like one of the ways to like most effective ways to torture a prisoner of war is like lack of human interaction yeah and now we're just integrating it into our life yeah it's like well it's cheaper man if i can just pay build these cameras to you. I still go to the bank to deposit checks. You don't use a mobile app? No, fuck no. I want to go out and talk to somebody. On a moment-by-moment basis, it's hard for me to realize

that I need human contact. I think I would fall into this trap very easily. That's the sad thing. It's super comfortable and gives you something to do, just like your phone. you just like look down at your phone instead of interact with someone but you ever wonder that like at a party you're at like a you know we usually have a lot of them around the holidays and things we get invited to and stuff like that i'm constantly

at parties bro and you say to yourself like i'll just get up you know get up if i don't know anybody here yet or the people i do know how to showed up and then i think to myself if this was 1994 what would i do what would i do right now i guess i'd either stand here quietly and then maybe i'd end up talking to someone or i would just go talk to someone right like i've tried i'll try to do that sometimes because you can just run away into your screen oh it's and then you're unapproachable yeah of course right i think it's i've i've really tried to like do that less because i realize how easy it is to avoid even like thinking uh by just going to your phone immediately be like you know what like if i'm waiting for

something if like i'm in a line it's so easy like oh fuck it let me open something up and read something whatever right versus like just having your phone in there and be like i can i can handle 10 minutes and then just kind of look around yeah take shit in maybe talk to somebody think a little bit and not not having it be such a not that it's terrifying but a thing where it's like i'd rather not right you know what i mean i think it's it's about trying to make that less of a reflex. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's terrifying. When somebody walks up to me, I go, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, boy.

You're going to love this. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. They're looking at me. Oh, geez, Jack. Don't blow it. And you say all this loud. Sir, your pizza's ready.

Oh, thank you. Oh, man. That was a close, thank you. Oh, man. That was a close one. I hate it, Jack. Sir, you're still in here and you're still talking to us. All right, let's take one more break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.

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Cheetah. The most beautiful dog in the world. And we, of course, know about Jamie's dog, Sunny. Sunny. All right. Sunny is a dog. Sunny is a dog. Sunny, well, Sunny, yeah.

Sunny came on stage at my show last night to tend to endorse Biden again. And it's frustrating because it's hard to get stage time in this town. That is hilarious. People just come on, they start endorsing Joe Biden. And I'm like, well, great. I only had nine minutes. And he fucking used eight of them.

So you were just doing standup and Sonny kind of barged on. Yeah, I was at the theater my boyfriend worked at and he was upstairs and Sonny just marched downstairs and fucking took the mic it was ridiculous and he started to get people really excited about the biden campaign as well he kept saying uh pete is a radical he must be stopped and people agreed interesting um wait pete is a radical yeah that's sonny's new platform pete is a radical.

Pete is too far left. Pete has gone too far this time. I mean, I wonder at the Pete campaign and at the Klobuchar campaign, if their war room is just them talking shit about the other. Like Amy Klobuchar's whole strategy is focused on Pete and vice versa. Well, she's a terror behind closed doors, Amy Klobuchar's whole strategy is focused on Pete and vice versa. Well, she's a terror behind closed doors. Right. Amy Klobuchar. They're so mean to each other.

The clip, it's like Battle of the Centrists. It's wild. Yeah. It's fun. It's fun to watch. That look that Amy Klobuchar shot, whatever staffer she was going to snap the neck of and eat for dinner after she didn't remember the name of the mexican president oh you mean president loprez robobor love him oh pete was pete was like i knew it

right of course you did pizza great pete you're perfect aren't you anyways sonny says pizza radical so yeah um well anyways there's a new dog owner poll. A rover.com poll is out. And I don't know how revealing any of this stuff is, but it revealed some things to some people about dog owners. The study shows that 65% of dog owners admit to taking more photos of their dog than their significant other. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, that's a given. Yeah, well, because your dog never says, oh, no, I look terrible.

Right. Delete it. Right now. Yeah. 94% of dog owners consider their dogs to be part of their family, and 56% greet their dog as soon as they walk in the door, usually before saying hello to the rest of their family. Well, if anyone else would jump on my face as soon as I walk in the door, usually before saying hello to the rest of their family. Well, if anyone else would jump on my face, as soon as I walk in the door, they'd get it first too.

The dogs are cheating when you think about it. Dogs are the only burden that are fun. I like what a big burden my dog is. Also, shout out to my Rover fam. We did an episode for Rover, and I'm a licensed, registered Rover walker. Wait, really? Yes.

Wow. Nice. It's not worth it. No? Spoiler alert on that episode. Don't do that. What? Just too much of a pain in the ass?

No, it's just not worth the money. I had a woman do a little too much heroin while I was in the middle of walking her dog. And I had to lie my way into the building and then find the landlord and then get her door number and then go and then knock on her door a bunch of times before she finally answered. And she's like, what's going on? And I was like, i have your dog i saw you 15 minutes ago she said oh are you mad at me no and i said i'm probably not getting a tip huh right yeah anyway holy shit no good wait had Right, yeah. Anyway. Holy shit. No good. Wait, had you just seen her? Yes, no, I saw her. She was perfectly fine.

And then she was not on heroin. Right. And then when I came back. That can change pretty quickly. I was texting with her beforehand. And then afterwards, I was like, hey, I'm back. I texted her. And then she texted back, wrong number.

Oh, really? I was like, what's going on? Can you look directly above this message? And then when I knocked on her door, there was another dog in there just barking very loudly every time I knocked on the door. And then she said to her dog, shush. Shush. It's her dealer. I think she tried to give me a dog.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, she was like, it was a new dog. I don't know what her story was, but it involved heroin. Dogs can deal drugs. Yeah. That's just a fact. That is a fact. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, she was like, it was a new dog. I don't know what her story was, but it involved heroin. Dogs can deal drugs. Yeah. That's just a fact. That is a fact.

Yeah. That was our drug dealer. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.

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