The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 117 (Best of 3/16/20-3/20/20)

Episode Date: March 22, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:55 All right, guys. What's up, man? It's great to have you. The hysteria is real, right? Global pandemics and all. Yeah. Yeah, very real. Something that our generation hasn't gone
Starting point is 00:03:05 through so nobody knows how to react but go to memes and just make fun of things so yeah i mean that's that's the times we're living like older people like boomers have they're responding one of two ways depending if they're immigrants or you or u.s residents like born and raised i'm having trouble with my mother a japanese immigrant who was born directly after the end of world war ii being like nah we're good yeah i i don't worry i will not get sick i will wash the like i'm like no no no you need to stay back i will do whatever you need to happen please protect yourself she's like no no no she's like i got i got errands to run yeah um and then there are other people who are also freaking out uh being like, buy everything in the store.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yes. We're learning a lot, I feel like, about people's psychologies throughout this. I applaud those people, though, that are not going to let it stop them, and they're still going to go out and live their normal lives. Because, I mean, yes, you have to take those proper precautions and quarantine yourself when you need to. But, man, come on. You can't just live your whole life inside the entire time yeah exactly and i think it's about really exposing yourself i mean i think it's you don't want to go out to like you know anywhere crowded you know you gotta pop in somewhere get something real quick pop back
Starting point is 00:04:15 home obviously i think that's fine but like when it gets to stuff which is like well i need to go to the market i'm like no fool if you're gonna i'll go right because i've i'm looking at what these mortality rates are for people in their 70s and up and i'm like we're not playing that game yeah that's what i'm finding too is that uh you know we're we're sending out information on a thread with my family and you know just my uh my wife is a doctor she's got some interesting you know she's got some links to things that are, you know, precautions people should be taking.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Uh, and my dad is like, guys, take a deep breath. Yeah. Right. Everybody settled down. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:56 This is not life changing. Like just trying to be like, everybody chill the fuck out. And you know, that's, it's just like, I get it. He's, he's extra stoic too yeah right like uh he'll be on fire and be like it's just a little guys yeah exactly but at the same time like you
Starting point is 00:05:14 know he is the age cohort that needs to be the most worried so yeah and they also have the mentality where they're like even elderly people are like i'm refusing to disrupt my routine which is the same thing when we're like hey what about the environment yeah and like look i'm unwilling to disrupt my routine yeah and they're gonna you know i i just please look after elderly people as much as possible yeah don't let your no matter how tough some of your parents are really try to communicate to them even if you fucking tough, you have to limit your risk. That was my reply. I was like, we're not panicking, man. We're just worried about you. So is your dad still getting out there, though?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Probably. I don't know. He's on the other coast, so I can't keep tabs on that guy. He's a wild card. He's still doing those group CPR classes without the mouthpieces yeah because he does it old school yeah he does it gotta feel right yeah exactly well we can move right on to
Starting point is 00:06:10 that myth uh about oprah and q anon unless you guys had a different myth you wanted to debunk there's no better myth today no there's no better myth to bust than Oprah being a sex trafficker. Even QAnon is getting bored. Like, this is, I feel like this is something else from QAnon. I think boredom may, it's going to render a lot of interesting results in this experiment, if we even want to call it that, of everything that's happening. I mean, we'll get to that, but it'll be very interesting to see a world where we're so overly stimulated
Starting point is 00:06:49 to suddenly slam the brakes on that shit and what the knock-on effects of that are. So what happened? Oprah's name began trending on Tuesday night, I believe. Yeah. It was because of a QAnon conspiracy theory. Yeah. So I picked up on this on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I have been keeping track of trending stuff because I just don't have shit to do. And I saw Oprah was trending and I think everyone is like, oh no, Oprah has Corona. But then when you look through it, it was all these tweets being like oh i can't believe like if if this is true about oprah holy shit so so the rumor that was spreading
Starting point is 00:07:32 i don't know what who patient zero was but it was a q anon original uh they should start a streaming service at this point uh but they so someone said that there were federal officers at Oprah's mansion arresting her for sex trafficking. And that was the rumor that happened. And so people were freaking out. And there's like a stock photo with like some police tape outside of a mansion. They're like, this is Oprah's mansion. Definitely. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And I'm like, I guess I believe that. Sure. Why not? definitely right and i'm like i guess i believe that sure why not and it was kind of funny because the tweets the tweets in like the twitter highlight that i was seeing were people who were like doubtful that it was true but still just enjoying engaging with the rumor like they're because because people were like even tmz isn't writing about it it's not real but until tmz says something it's real to me you know and so then so then oprah bless her heart has to wake up at 10 39 p.m our time so where does oprah live she lived i think montecito doesn't she like near santa barbara oh okay so so 10 so 10 30 ours and oprah's time what a privilege to share a time zone with her um has to wake up and whatever she has a tweet just got a phone call that my name is trending and being trolled for some awful fake
Starting point is 00:08:52 thing it's not true haven't been raided or arrested just sanitizing and self-distancing with the rest of the world stay safe everybody so this like the q anon got oprah out of bed do you know how much money that is? It's a lot of money. I mean, especially her home in Montecito is known, is called, like, I think she calls it the Promised Land. Oh, that's sinister. It's on 42. Have you seen that place, though?
Starting point is 00:09:21 No. It's whimsical it's on 42 fucking acres that and montecito is right there like on the what they call the california or southern california riviera in santa barbara where she has mountain in her backyard and then ocean views in the front so she looks out into the ocean or like total greenery her garden is like on some next level shit it's on 42 acres it's i mean it's got a man-made lake she's good she's i mean she's good i just want to know i mean it's times like these that i'm i'm like how's steadman doing in there you know yeah oh steadman died steadman died four weeks ago miles that's not funny don't joke about steadman and she's not telling anyone she's just in bed she's in
Starting point is 00:10:08 denial i used to draw really um she has a bunch of tanks full of drowned stedmans throughout her property like at the end of prestige sorry go ahead or or at the end of um or like how there's all those snokes at in the in the star wars they're like oh there's a million no it's just all steadman's i i used to draw um fan art of steadman graham and um jeffrey what's his name the barefoot contessa's husband i used to draw pictures of them um spooning and like um not having sex with each other but almost everything but it was just a coupling you wanted to see it's just i know i just think that they're they're like they're like beta icons i love it right that is beautiful they're great i like them a lot at the same time uh you know until oprah broadcasts live from, as Miles mentioned, we call it the Southern California Riviera.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I think we all refer to it as that. Until we hear her broadcasting from the promised land, we can't trust this denial. Stedman could be tweeting from her account. Exactly. You know, trying to keep things. If he's even alive. I want to see a photo of Stedman holding today's newspaper. Today's newspaper.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Oh, Stedman. Today's newspaper, Oprah. I feel like Oprah's property is large enough that she could feasibly run a small newspaper just for her property. Or, you know, maybe. I mean, that's what O is, right? Is that just the newspaper for her property. That's what O is. Is that just a newspaper for her mansion? Circulation 1.
Starting point is 00:11:52 O Daily. Isn't that magazine only like it has her on the cover every month? Oh yeah. It's great. That's wild. That is truly... When she's on the cover they sell
Starting point is 00:12:07 man that's the rule yeah no for sure um i've i've definitely seen interviews with oprah where i feel like she i don't know she is on a separate plane of existence from the rest of us to the point that like if were she not uh oprah it would be seen as some manner of like disorder or something but uh like disordered thinking but because she's oprah it's just it's cool uh i just want oprah to be okay yeah it me too i mean i think that's when you look at the oh magazine twitter feed right now do you want to guess what the content is right now on the oprah is it like hazmat oprah i hope that that's like the next cover no the very first it's just like spring cleaning stuff the latest tweet that just came out says you'll want to live in these soft pajamas.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Who doesn't cherish PJ O'Clock? No. How about another one? This backpack gives you a massage while you wear it. That was 21 minutes ago. No.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Do what you gotta do. got to escape a little bit. I'm sure they have all this shit on auto. Well, it is interesting. I'd be interested to hear from some hashtag content creators for places like that where writers just got to get stuff written right now because there's a ton of people who want to write stuff, but there's also nothing to write about at the same time yeah i don't know i've been i've been um on like long phone calls with my dad because he's just at his house alone and so he's a sports reporter right
Starting point is 00:13:57 he's a sports reporter and there's no sports and so he's he's like uh so we were just brainstorming stories last night. Like columns he could write? Yeah, because it's like they've got to fill time. And there's also this big anxiety with writers who don't have anything to necessarily write about that it's like, well, you need to prove that you're still useful because people are getting laid off right and left. So it's a scary time. I don't know. But we thought of some pretty unhinged ideas of things to write about. I'm sure with your imagination, your dad,
Starting point is 00:14:35 he's going to have a book deal by the time this is over. I was like, Dad, you should honestly just start writing your memoirs and publishing it in the Patriot Ledger and see if people notice. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that's the same thing with my mom who's a film critic because like everything's completely stopped like there's no festivals the releases are being delayed there's no junkets press conferences so yeah it's it's it's definitely it's trying she should be publishing her like reviews of movies that people should be binging right now she'll probably just keep talking about brokeback mountain that's my mom's favorite
Starting point is 00:15:10 then do that 50 days in a row just different reasons you should be watching my mom my mom breaking down every day one minute of the film right there you go in-depth discussion of one one minute at a time but no she's a whole podcast sub-genre of one one minute at a time but no she's a whole podcast sub-genre yeah right one minute at a time wow yeah all right well what one phrase that i'm hearing people use a lot now is uh draconian are you guys hearing that in a lot of places yeah a lot of places. Yeah, a lot of dragon hate. Yeah, a lot of dragon hate. I was assuming this had something, like the derivation was something to do with Draco Malfoy, but that's actually not the case. Oh.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah, so Draco was- Oh, that's not where that comes from? Yeah, I know. I think Draco Malfoy might come from this, believe it or not. Good boy. Wow, JK Rowling doing a cute little turn of phrase. Isn't that wild?
Starting point is 00:16:09 And being a transphobe. Wow. She truly does it all. Wow, yeah, who says women can't have it all? Draco gets a really bad rap. He was the first legislator in ancient Greece to make laws. And people were like, fuck your laws.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Um, don't, don't have rights. Yeah. Great goal. So, I mean, prior to that,
Starting point is 00:16:32 it had been blood feuds and like, you know, whoever was in, in charge could decide whatever they wanted to do to people. Um, and there were these random people who were arbitrarily able to enforce the laws because they like quote unquote knew the code uh but you know uh that that wasn't so he was the first person to write them down uh now granted when we look back at them
Starting point is 00:17:00 they're not great laws like you there had capital punishment for like stealing a cabbage uh but they also made big progress in terms of just writing them down in the first place because everything up to that point was just whoever you know had the power and the weapon at that point uh got to decide what the law was and And also, you know, it made distinctions like between manslaughter and murder. That was the first time those were viewed as separate. So very early stages law stuff, but, you know, I think because people were like pissed
Starting point is 00:17:41 that anyone was writing laws down in the first place, we were like, this is draconian. This is terrible. Just writing shit down? Yeah. I hate to be an I'm actually person, but wasn't the Code of Hammurabi one of the earliest written down laws in history?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. This might be like Western bias where this is one of the first. Just want to hold it down for Hammurabi. Yeah. What was Hammurabi? You know we're living in a weird time because this is normally something that you would hear from a guy at a party. Right. Actually, Draconian.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The code of Hammurabi. There's a lot of baggage attached to the term draconian that you might not actually realize. And then be like, oh, sorry, I'm going to go get another Miller Lite. I'll be right back. No, this is what's happening. And while that guy leaves. I wasn't able to go to parties and just make people run away from me
Starting point is 00:18:41 with really boring historic derivations of words so and i would always have to shoehorn in that i knew what the code of hamurabi yeah you're like but yeah you guys are like wingmen for each other like dude no you guys so you guys both come off looking real smart miles after action post-mortem heard the conversation front he's like oh hey i couldn't help but overhear that you were talking uh then at the end of the night at the end of the night we meet up outside the party and we compare notes you're like all right so how do we do how many numbers you get they're like i had three women tell me to never fucking talk to them oh shit it's like info it's info from the same guy that is like yeah only watch season one of Mr. Robot. It gets really shitty after that.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So there's this band, Tame Impala. It's basically one guy, though. Oh, boy. Well, I guess I'm going to spike the next story about how season two of Mr. Robot really drops off. You really expect me to
Starting point is 00:19:43 watch something and then tell me it's a dream halfway through the season honey come on oh you're gonna hate that one episode of that one season of fucking uh dexter my god oh wow oh i hope things don't get so bad that i have to watch dexter that would be too bad truly apocalyptic all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
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Starting point is 00:23:08 And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back let's just get right into it uh yeah what do you guys uh everyone take a deep breath yeah i thought yeah one of the best things i saw was from Sheila Blair, who was, I think she was in charge of the Fed under George W. Bush and into the Obama administration. And she, you know, a lot of the coverage about, you know, the economy at this time, like as everything's shutting down, has been about the Fed and about the stock market. And she pointed out lowering interest rates to zero doesn't help if businesses can't pay their loans back and they don't have cash flow. We need to get help out there, especially to small businesses and people already losing their jobs. And I just think that's an important point.
Starting point is 00:24:22 This is something that I've felt over and over again, really in the past few months, that there's just this sort of feedback loop between the mainstream media and Donald Trump specifically, and just wealthy media elites and the sorts of people who pay attention to the stock market where they think they're the only ones whose opinions matter. And I feel like we're starting to see that get punctured a little bit as the reality of the situation breaks through. Oh, yeah. I mean, you have Mitt Romney out here proposing possibly giving people $1,000 right now just to offset things. And it's funny, so many of the funnier tweets and stuff I've read over the weekend were things about you know just being like you know this virus has the government actually giving people human rights now uh trying to address these things because i think you know it had to come to a point where the the rubber met the road and it was like are you really going to expect people to not work and also get these things done like how is that even possible and you can no longer blame other people you can no longer say rah rah bootstrap shit it's like no no there needs to be tangible uh assistance for this to work and not have just a chain reaction
Starting point is 00:25:37 that you know i think they're not quite prepared for yeah it is like kind of surprising to see i mean not surprising i guess but just like how this has forced the government to provide some like basic services to two people like just like things that people have been asking for forever like in la there's been like a proposal to just get like hand washing stations at homeless encampments for like ever ever ever and they have just started to roll them out in the last week because it feels like a possible threat to the you know the government they don't actually give a shit but like at least something's happening yeah i mean i think it's gonna take a while because on one level you you see that they've done everything they could to try and stabilize it from the top down you know by sl by slashing interest rates and things like that. And the market still didn't really
Starting point is 00:26:28 respond the way they did. And, you know, I think luckily on the other end, hopefully like local municipalities, I've seen like even in the area, like school districts trying to set up ways to distribute food for kids who are like counting on school to get their meals and things like that. It seems like a lot of the more, you know, tangible or effective solutions are having to come from the people on the ground because clearly the federal government is in total disarray. But I think it's, I hope, I mean, I don't know if we can talk about what are positives or negatives throughout this whole thing,
Starting point is 00:27:00 but at the very least, these sort of, these topics are entering the discussion, at least on a national level. Yeah, I a historic perspective it seems like you know the last time that america was truly open to uh very progressive policies was like during the depression and after world war ii and or during world war ii so I mean, maybe that's what it takes to get America out of its own ass enough to realize that people need help. Well, the Big Brother cast in Germany has been bottled up.
Starting point is 00:27:40 No communication with the outside world. Since the beginning of February. Yeah, February 6th Since like the beginning of February. Yeah, February 6th. Since the beginning of February. So there's going to be a televised special where they are in front of a studio audience, I think, and they find out... Well, I guess not in front of a studio audience.
Starting point is 00:28:02 That would be... They're like, guess what? There's this deadly disease. And just by being here, we can all have it. Everyone get together to tell them about it. No, because so they went in for February 6th. Like the whole point of Big Brother, if somehow you don't know what it is, people go into a basically a glass menagerie rigged with cameras and live their lives completely isolated
Starting point is 00:28:19 from the rest of the world. There were new cast members who went in March 6th. So they may have brought in some information from that point but most of the most of the cash has been there since february 6th has no idea of really what the impact has been of of covet 19 and like the broadcaster in germany was like yeah we're not gonna tell them and and people are like wait why and basically saying it's like okay well look we're doing a lot of special hygiene measures, so they're going to be fine. And maybe we'll lift the information blackout if a family member of a cast member gets sick. But everybody was like, no, you guys are fucking reckless.
Starting point is 00:28:54 You can't just cut these people off from this kind of information because it has global ramifications. So they said, all right, fine, live episode episode and we'll tell them what's going on and then they can ask us questions about the state of the nation and the world at large as well as big brother contested ask about the state of right yeah and then they can also get like video messages from their relatives but i think it's just oh that's nice yeah i don't it's when i think about this i'm like would yeah i guess you'd want to know yeah you'd want to know you would want to know well because if like someone you knew is affected you'd want to know right yeah like if i had nothing to lose if i was like like a you know total lone wolf big brother cast members like i ain't got friends
Starting point is 00:29:42 i ain't got family that's why i'm going in the big brother house then i'd be like why'd you fucking tell me this shit but i guess yeah for everyone else they'd be like yeah what the fuck i have elderly relatives who i want to make sure they're safe i don't have yeah i don't this is just funny to me i don't have the bandwidth to take issue with it there's a few stories today that i'm just like this is just fun there's that whole there's that story with um jared leto jared leto just found out about coronavirus what wait where was he just in a sensory deprivation tank he was on a silent retreat is where this is where this motherfucker was for the last 12 so he tweeted out uh like pretty close to this recording happening. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:25 12 days ago, I began a silent meditation in the desert. We were totally isolated. No phone, no communication. We had no idea what was happening outside the facility. Just Jared Leto walked out today into a very different world. One that's changed forever. Mind-blowing, to say the least. I'm getting messaged.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Blah, blah, blah. Like, he's just he's he just found out today wow he was self-quarantining already i mean what what absolute privilege to you're like i just came back out to the world is like damn i was basically doing like shrooms and joshua tree for two weeks straight yeah or a fucking medit whatever the fuck you want to call it. Look, we've all meditated in the desert, quote unquote. And then just be like, wow, just, it's mind blowing, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:11 All right, well. It's really funny. Back to being completely disconnected from the pain of the world. Did that happen at all with 9-11? Were there any people who just were, I wonder what the longest period of time was for people not to find out about that and like the kennedy assassination if there were any people who were
Starting point is 00:31:31 just like in a bunker somewhere googling it let's see i don't know i feel like most people knew because who was that what was that famous road trip of michael jack Elizabeth Taylor, and who was the third? Was it the two of them? And Elizabeth Taylor. We got to get the fuck out of town. Brando, Jackson, Taylor. Brando, that's what it was. What a weird group.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I know. Next, O'Brien, Loftus Gray. Right. That would be a good podcast. What if we just turned off the news and just continued podcasting daily without any connection with the outside world? I think it's a double-edged sword either.
Starting point is 00:32:18 It will be the most needed show on the face of the planet or everyone's going to be like, this has absolutely no utility and I need information. I have a feeling it's the one that people need in the world, though. I wonder if there's going to be any celebrities where whenever something horrible happens, there's always, I mean, it's like almost the Brian Williams
Starting point is 00:32:37 thing, right? Where some people are going to try to, like, someone's going to, there's going to be a celebrity who's like, I have corona. And then later we'll a celebrity who's like I have corona and then later we'll be like you didn't have corona you fucker I apologize for the deceptive statement I made
Starting point is 00:32:53 I apologize for live streaming not having corona I'm guilty of corona chasing which is clout chasing where you try and say you're afflicted with coronavirus it's like that'll be a fun story many, many months from now. I hear Steve Ranazzisi's on the front lines of coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Oh, Steve Ranazzisi's out there. And we're like, all right. He's fighting the virus molecules by hand. Seth MacFarlane almost, Seth MacFarlane's got that story where he's like, I almost got onto the plane. Right, but I slept in.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But if I, well, no, he just was like, yeah, he was like hungover. It's like, if I wasn't unwilling to address my problems, I would have died. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And that's when your love began. And Mark Wahlberg has to live with the reality that had he been on that plane, he could have saved America from 9-11. Mark Wahlberg's going to be out here like, I could have prevented coronavirus. It's true. I do like to watch it. I do want to see.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I can't wait until people start coming out with really horrible takes on coronavirus. Oh, for sure. I want to give Gwyneth the benefit of the doubt. People are so hard on Gwyneth. But we'll just see what comes out. We'll just see. We'll see what they try then we'll see what they try to sell a story that made me uh laugh a lot because it's so dystopian and it also just sounds like a word jumble of a cursed news story is is that is that it's just like news gibberish. News magnets. Newsword magnets. RuPaul is fracking? What?
Starting point is 00:34:48 What are you talking about? Stop laughing about the RuPaul fracking story. Fracking is horrible but RuPaul is doing it. She's fucking like gas extraction fracking? Okay, here's the story. RuPaul basically admitted on Fresh Air
Starting point is 00:35:04 that he and his husband are fracking. So this comes from Vulture. So RuPaul's thrown down with Terry Gross. They're hanging out. RuPaul and his husband, who's like an Australian guy named Georges Labarre, they have this huge ranch. Hell yes.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I mean, of course, Georges Labarre is fracking. They have this huge ranch. Hell yes. I mean, of course, Georges Labarre is fracking. They have this huge ranch in Wyoming. And here is how RuPaul describes fracking. Terry Gross says, do you have like horses or cattle or a farm? And RuPaul says, a modern ranch, 21st century ranch, is really land management. You lease the mineral rights to oil companies. And you sell water to oil companies.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And then you lease the grazing rights to different ranchers. So it's land management. Yeah. It's what you do. I mean, Jamie, I'm sure it's what you do as well. I like it. I can't stop fracking. He put it in second person.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So then a reporter did a little research, and they're like, hmm, that sounds a little vague. Let's see if this is fracking or not. And they checked in on just the records attached to this ranch. And so Georges Labarre owns 66,000 acres on this ranch. Labarre's company, Labarre Ranch, leases that land to at least three oil companies,
Starting point is 00:36:33 Anadarko, E&P Onshore, Chesapeake Operating, and Anschultz Oil Company. Using Fractracker, which is a thing, Fractracker, we looked at just 10, 000 of those acres and found more than 35 active oil and gas wells rupaul is for racking honey honey honey wow get the least least those land rights least those mineral rights rupaul yeah uh so you know make of it what you will rupaul's fracking it apparently doesn't care enough to pretend that uh he's not he's not yeah yeah i mean y'all need to forget about drag queens we need to get in with the frack queens i know it's like is this gonna be a theme of a
Starting point is 00:37:18 season like frack queens i don't oh god i mean how can you have aoc on your judging panel and then be a secretly fracking that's shady well i think you know it's just like one of the things where that's how the mega rich like when you get to a certain point you hear how other wealthy people use their money rupaul probably had i don't know what georges does but together you know you look for like we got a little bit of money what do we do people like oh what you do is you know all it takes is that one person at a dinner party who's like this is what you do man this is what a lot of people are doing they're buying up land in miami you lease a little bit out to ranchers that's fine i get that part but when you're like extracting the mineral like that shit oh it's so fucking terrible for the environment but then like okay but what
Starting point is 00:38:02 are the what are the rate what are the margins It's a great return on investment, though. The ROI. The ROI on fracking, on oil extraction, on addictive substances, those are all, that's where you put your money, brother, if you want it to grow. When you see the ROI on these frack sites, oh my, you are going to be gagging honey you're going it's it sucks it does suck uh especially because these huge company like giant financial companies like morgan stanley are thinking about like withdrawing their money from energy companies. RuPaul should probably think about doing the same with his money.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I mean, after seeing RuPaul's Netflix show, oh boy. You know, frack away, because I don't know how you're going to recover from that mess. I was trying to think of a way to say sashay away with frack. It's a show where RuPaul and an orphan child
Starting point is 00:39:03 are an unlikely duo where- It's AJ and the Queen. It's AJ and the Queen where, and I watched way too much of it out of loyalty to the drag race. It starts off like, you think it's about RuPaul and this child, but the first episode is like this whole thing
Starting point is 00:39:22 where like RuPaul's character is like an older drag queen who is like slowly getting edged out by the younger more popular queens and like she has a moment before she leaves her club where she throws her one last shade and it's like at the end of it it almost felt like rupaul like this was written for rupaul to feel better about like like her place in drag or his place in drag. And then you introduce this other character. There's just an orphan? Yeah, this kid, AJ, who needs a place to stay. It's just like I was having trouble finding the heart in it
Starting point is 00:39:57 or it wasn't messy enough. The reason for it existed. That might be a really hot take. People might come for me, but I don't uh not definitely not one i kept watching though well what's i mean and it was canceled already but the uh the there was someone responded to because i wrote i wrote honestly a pretty great poem about rupaul fracking because i've got time um but someone responded saying that um which is something i'd heard i forget what context i'd heard it in before but that like rupaul also has like a really horrible reputation in the trans
Starting point is 00:40:32 community and i did a little research on that and that appears to be uh quite true so rupaul might just like have an amazing community and suck as a person right yeah i've read takes like that about uh just even like how production is on our sets and things like hey man you know when you get to a certain when you get to a certain level you can either be a hero or you can be the enemy you used to talk shit about on your way up right i mean it's like yeah i so many icons behave like that i would oh god can you what what is Ellen doing right now? Is Ellen just like shooting people at her house? Like, is she doing the hunt?
Starting point is 00:41:11 I feel like Ellen's doing the hunt. In terms, lay down like in the foyer of her mansion, but like arranged in like the same way as like piano keys. And she's jumping on them. And their command is is when i jump on you you're an a you're an a you you are an a sharp or b flat and then she's doing that scene from big yeah where they're doing chopsticks but with people yeah and she's hopping they're like
Starting point is 00:41:39 just based on their natural the frequency that their vocal cords vibrate at she even yeah she's got grape she's got grape stomp woman there for the piers de resistance oh the grape like ellen yeah no ellen is just like portia put on these like uh soundproof headphones and then she's just doing the hunt in her backyard yeah she's just like give me my spiked shoes i'm gonna do a piano solo all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts
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Starting point is 00:45:21 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Well, speaking of questions that I want to pose and have no way of answering, do you guys think celebrities still make sense in this new reality? Yes. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 They're funny. They're funny. So it's just celebrities being earnest doesn't work, maybe? I don't know. It's tone-deaf gestures that make me cringe. And if we're talking about this Imagine video, I can see how- We've got to talking about this imagine video i can see how talk about this imagine video we're kind of always talking about this imagine video i can't imagine why we would talk about this imagine video but imagine a scenario like this in which the world is at a standstill and people who are
Starting point is 00:46:20 self-important and thrive off the attention from groups, massive groups need something to do and feel productive. I see the sentiment of having all these familiar faces smile at camera and sing one of these torch songs that most people know. But there's also this level that they're not connecting to of just sort of like the general fear intention that people have right now about the uncertainty especially financially and to see a bunch of people who are like broadcasting from like their mansions and like smiling like ain't shit going on there's like unnerving god i mean oh yes okay so i kate uh kate raft at kate raft on twitter she did a pretty cool thread that um she like researched what some of the houses of the celebrities look like and they're
Starting point is 00:47:12 like here's what this celebrity was like cropping out like natalie portman has this freaky ass like space mansion that she was just standing in front of a bush but if you pull out it's the scariest shit in the world and like obviously i just feel like okay obviously celebrities are horrible horrible horrible they'll never do the right thing uh gal gadot is literally chaotic evil uh but like we need shit to talk about celebrities are a resource we need to do our job right and and it's like i don't know i i think it's uh i think it's funny and stupid and jamie we have to we have to realize that we as podcasters see an opening to be the new gal godot's and natalie portman's of the world but we yeah that's true i mean yeah we're gonna take over it is kind of funny imagine feeling useful that's like yeah right uh i think that yeah so the celebs they're feeling
Starting point is 00:48:07 useless they're feeling bored they don't understand what it's like to be a person and it's i feel like it's a good boost to national morale for all of us to unite and call them fucking dumb dumb dumb dumbs yeah yeah i I think it also is probably bothering some people that the only people who seem to be able to get testing without fail are people who play in the NBA and other celebrities and Idris Elba.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Idris Elba and I think a lot of celebrities have gotten just tested without any symptoms and that's the only reason Idris Elba knows he has the Corona is because he like was just like, I wonder if I have it, I'm sleepy.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And it turned out that he had it. I mean, it's there. The inequality class wise there is, is next level. And as it pertains to the imagine video, there's a lot of great celebrity betrayals people that you're like oh i love this person oh no why would they agree to do this they're just
Starting point is 00:49:11 fucking idiots man they're just dumb they don't understand anything and uh it's i think it's fun for us to all unite and um be like look at these fingers jackasses because you think they're actually going to help of Of course they're not. I mean, yeah, that's where I want to see that. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for someone to do a good thing. Yeah, some showrunners have tried to put their own money into keeping some of the crews paid and things like that. Because I know that's a big thing right now in LA is the amount of production that's halted, which is one of the main industries here. So there's a lot of jobs, not just here atlanta uh like vancouver other huge production hubs they're all experiencing the same thing but yeah i mean i think maybe if that would the celebrity thing the thing that's going to
Starting point is 00:49:56 change is maybe the nature of celebrity where when we were like in the high-flying times of like yeah don't worry we're like running on fumes as an economy, but like, we like to hold these other people up who live these like lifestyles that seem impossible that like keep us sort of aspiring to maybe back to people who are like doing really good. But I don't know. I think in the end we always need sort of like these fantasy,
Starting point is 00:50:20 fantastic figures to sort of like look up to and, and dream. But I also, there's also moments i'm like ah yeah now that we're in a time like this like people need like some really like they need nourishment from people that have this much influence too yeah i i i mean i think it's kind of like it's net good that people have like we've all generally like become very like the bullshit detector on like an insincere celebrity uh gesture is like it's almost a uniting thing where it's like it's less even the celebrity that matters but the fact that we're all like fuck you like yeah i think that's
Starting point is 00:50:59 like the fun uniting factor here yeah it was like rich kids like riding by and they're like convertible and be like we're going riding by and they're like convertible and be like we're going to our fantasy island to like drink champagne all day and the rest of us are like dude get the fuck out of here i don't need that shit right now people are out here in hollywood people are panic buying grave sites yeah hollywood forever cemetery yep uh very iconic Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Yep. Very iconic cemetery. People like Chris Cornell, Cecil B. DeMille, Judy Garland are resting there. Even my great-grandmother and my grandmother there, rest in peace. But they got the more broke people section where it's just a little square in the wall. I think there's a legends thing by the lake is what they call that area.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Dungeons thing by the lake is what they call that area. They were the co-founder of the cemetery had said they had, they just got increased call volume of people trying to buy pre-death plots. Now. Damn. I don't know what, who that's for. I don't know if that's like,
Starting point is 00:51:59 if they're older people who are like, yeah, I guess it's coming for me. I better get that plot now. Right. But the quote from the co-founder was I've never seen anything like this before. And they were just, it's a quote, it's very similar to people going to Costco. They don't need all the toilet paper and sanitizer, but they're buying it anyway. Wow. He's being a little bit open with that. He's like, hey, it's good for business, man. We're crushing it out here
Starting point is 00:52:25 i don't know about y'all it's it's interesting i mean i guess people really it's very important to be at hollywood forever yeah i mean maybe not want to you know your family don't burden them but right i mean i've been to the hollywood forever cemetery a bunch of times they have an espion yeah they have that and uh it's kind of the worst time of the year when people are coming because there's no parking. But, you know, except for that spot right there on the big lawn where they have the movies and everything,
Starting point is 00:52:50 it's a pretty packed cemetery. So, I mean, these are coming at a premium, one, and then two, where are they going to put you? You're going to put you in that corner. If you've walked through there,
Starting point is 00:52:58 I'm like, how the fuck are you going to fit anymore if it plots in here? Like, I don't know if you can. I know like the mausoleums, like if you're being cremated, I think there's obviously space there. But if you want a full-on burial plot, yeah, absolutely. That place is like a park. People walk their dogs there. People play Pokemon Go there.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I see whole families doing that. It's- It's interesting. It is like a park. If you're choosing between a quiet graveyard where you could be buried or a place where there are people playing Pokemon Go and walking their dogs, I go with the bustling thing that's treated like a park. You're saying if you're a ghost resting there? Just generally. Just not knowing what the afterlife has. I just like that idea of there being some activity and not just like a quiet like meadow somewhere.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Or someone like hitting dust off out the can on your gravestone. Right. Yeah. It's actually really calm and peaceful there
Starting point is 00:53:52 to take a walk. It's a nice place. It's weird to say that a cemetery is like that but it's a nice place. For people who aren't familiar because you're like,
Starting point is 00:54:00 yeah, when you watch the movies there's a thing called Sinespia where they will play older films or like semi-new, like cult-y films. Jaws, Caddyshack.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Pulp Fiction, Clueless, things that they know they can generate a bunch of people to come. You bring your blankets and shit. You sit out on the lawn, watch it. Sometimes they have concerts. You're not desecrating graves or anything like that, but that just happens to be a thing that we do in Los Angeles is we party in graveyards. Yeah. Yeah. That's a true story.
Starting point is 00:54:25 They, uh, yeah, they actually have like concerts there too. Yeah. Yeah. Saw James Lake there. Yeah.
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