The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 122 (Best of 4/20/20-4/24/20)

Episode Date: April 26, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist. Just a quick appetizer. This image that I'm pretty sure is real from a couple days ago. Jacksonville beaches reopened over the weekend. And 26 minutes later, somebody took a picture, an aerial view of the beaches, and they're just like packed. Just completely full of people who are just ready to it see it seems like we we are truly in a in a bubble uh in that
Starting point is 00:02:54 we live in a city where people are not uh outraged by by the fact that we're being asked to shelter in place it seems like a lot of people are taking that as a direct challenge to their autonomy as Americans. That's good. Challenge your mortality at every turn. Yeah. Hell yeah. This is depressing. There's also that mentality, though.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I think on some level, you kind of have to be in denial that anything bad could happen to you. It's easy to act like this if anything bad could happen to you. Like, yeah, it's easy to act like this. If you haven't accepted, like, you know what? Maybe the universe is so huge.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I'm meaningless life form on this tiny dot, like swirling the earth and it could explode. And that has no effect on anything outside of maybe my social media. You know what I mean? Like, and to think like I can wander around and there's no way i could get sick that's not gonna happen there's no way anyone i i could never be an asymptomatic carrier and then possibly infect someone in my family like it's just like yeah you're clearly
Starting point is 00:03:55 not even doing those thoughts you clearly don't even have those thoughts you're gonna be like yeah fuck you it's at the beach yeah we did a live show on uh the Zeitgeist of the year 2000. And one of the things we talked about was how the story that came out of the Y2K scare was that everybody got worked up for no reason. And it was like not anything to worry about. And in reality, like they spent a bunch of time and put a bunch of resources into preparing the computers so that nothing bad happened but the way it like kind of came to the general public and hit the zeitgeist was the like well there's nothing to worry about bad things don't happen everything's gonna work itself out you don't have to worry about anything and now i feel like that's been like even though 9-11 happened i feel like people again we had this very traumatic thing happen on tv but it never like reached people anywhere who who weren't like living directly around the the terror attacks so people are and not to mention uh people are having the reaction
Starting point is 00:05:00 to the coronavirus that we were told to have to a terrorist attack like when the terrorist attack they're like don't let them ruin your lives you go about your lives if you don't go to disneyland the terrorists win exactly and people are reacting that way to a pandemic which is not the correct response like the pandemic wins if you don't go to the beach in jacksonville it's like no no that's for terrorists that's the terrorist in Jacksonville. It's like, no, no, no, that's for terrorists. That's the terrorist attitude. For pandemic attitude, it's stay at home. It's Rosie the Riveter shit. Do your part.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And all you got to do is just fucking not hurt. Stay home. It feels like people are like really like will do anything to like regain any sense of control over their lives too. It's just like, oh, what is one like, oh, oh i can make a choice let me make a bad one but like people are just excited to be making choices like without regard for anyone else i will say along the same lines i think a lot of people in this country and uh i again i'm because of privilege unaware of this i think a lot of people in this country's lives according to them suck shit for 50 to 51 weeks out of the year then they
Starting point is 00:06:05 get this week to go to the beach in jacksonville and then it's like no sorry you can't it's dangerous and they're like no fuck it there's no you can't take i think i would have had that attitude when i was 20 i feel like my dad would have had that attitude if he was still alive he'd be like i bust my ass all fucking year you're not telling me i can't do blank like i think there's that like modern that attitude and it's because we're so fucking beaten down to live for our vacation or live for our freedom yeah destroy yourself emotionally physically spiritually family for your country but one week a year go fucking ham you know what i mean it's like and then people
Starting point is 00:06:42 are told they can't do that or on the weekends, you can't go to Jacksonville after working a 70 hour shift. Right. So this is kind of a, I fully agree that it's, you know, just the fact that we can't deal with this very basic part where, you know, everybody is supposed to be sheltering in place, but you know, it's been politicized to the point that they're now you know that that's going away and now there's some uh you know speculation and disagreement added to the mix and now people are heckling health care workers in colorado at a a protest where they were basically protesting stay-at-home orders. They started heckling healthcare workers, which is something that happens actually throughout history.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Anytime there's a pandemic or a plague, healthcare workers end up being attacked, and it'll probably happen. That's probably where we're headed, but this is still sort of a very basic stage of this pandemic. And this New York Times article over the weekend looked at kind of what the next two years will look like. And some of the stages were just very sci-fi dystopia, while also I feel like being a little bit too optimistic in places. But they start out talking about something that we talked about last week, the possibility that people with antibodies will get these immunity passports that they will then be able to go out and work,
Starting point is 00:08:15 and society will be sort of informally split into these two classes. You've got the immune people who can work, and then the people who have to shelter at home. And they speculate about the possibility that you see your neighbor being able to go to work. And sometimes it will be them going to work the job that you lost because you can't. That's going to really fuck with people. Jesus. Yeah yeah and then maybe like if you have uh the antibodies you get like a uh if you don't if you haven't had coronavirus yet or you're sick or something you get a little mark on you like on your jacket you have to wear
Starting point is 00:08:54 like something that says like you're less of a citizen and then if you have the antibodies you get like a special hat that says like like stanford experiment style you're in charge and you can do whatever the fuck you want that's just another way to divide people and it's like guess what families of wealthy people buying the hats that say their kids are you know what i mean like it's gonna just immediately be and guess what rich people hack the system they're all working it's black people who have the problem now it's got this fre this freaky eugenics vibe to it too because imagine, right?
Starting point is 00:09:27 You need the economy going. It's like, nah, man, we only work with people with immunity passes or whatever. You know what I mean? We need people out there fucking putting in shifts, man. It sounds like a bad metaphor that someone would use in a shitty book.
Starting point is 00:09:39 They're like, well, if you think about it, the passport means, but like- Right. It opens up doorways and allows you access to places and things it just sounds like a shitty metaphor yeah no but like to the point where like even like at like if you think of like if we go even sci-fi more sci-fi about how a corporation would look at potential employees it's that like well actually we only like people with this genetic makeup because it allows them
Starting point is 00:10:05 to do the work we need at our company and then like that's like a desirable trait where it's like hey my fucking grandfather was an immunity pass holder my fucking dad and me my fucking kid is not gonna marry some fucking shelter in place weakling like you know what i mean like that's like it leads to and like realistically people will falsify like people will find out how to afford immunity passports if they want to not if they want to but like if if it comes to that in the government assistance for people who are sheltering in place doesn't come through the way it needs to people will just fake immunity passports like 100 there's gonna be like a wealthy hookup guy
Starting point is 00:10:45 who's like right yeah hey billionaires reach out i'm fucking selling these passes uh or you you guys got political sway ask your fucking senators for a pass right let's talk about uh grocery stores because speaking of locations that a lot of people have to go through, grocery stores have been kind of the single consumer space that still feels somewhat the same. There were lines at the local Ralph's slash Kroger that wrapped around the block at first, but these days it's starting to feel a little bit more similar where there's not like long lines and it's not as it's just everybody's wearing masks
Starting point is 00:11:33 and gloves but otherwise like there's not as many empty shelves but the employees are getting sick at grocery stores because you know everybody's coming through and the grocery stores... We've talked about how airplanes are a small margin business and therefore they just don't clean the planes in between flights and that's why you always get sick after you fly. Grocery stores are a thin margin business
Starting point is 00:11:58 and so they don't do a good enough job of cleaning the workspace and giving their employees PPE. And, you know, they're getting sick. And it's, you know, probably time to think about a different way of doing it. Well, there are ways, at least a lot of the grocery stores I've seen, they're trying to do as much as they can to keep the employees safe. There was a poll that from actual grocery store workers that said about 85% of the workers
Starting point is 00:12:27 felt that the customers themselves do not come in in a way that they feel that they are being safe or regarding their safety in terms of social distancing, walking in there, fucking no mask, fucking coughing and shit. Like I said, I think because going to a grocery store is like it it's like the one thing that still feels normal like yeah you get your cart right what do i need i go this it's still like there there are ways to sort of kind of like fall back into these old patterns and i think for the people that work there they're like yo these people are fucking wild now like and i'm i and i do not feel safe the problem is you know
Starting point is 00:13:05 with a lot of the suggestions that are that people are giving which is sort of like just go to completely curbside pickup contactless grocery shopping it's just tough because that is requires a lot more people to fulfill orders in an efficient way like that than it would just to merely like operate a grocery store and like to what you're saying, like the margins are so thin, even though there's a lot of people buying groceries now, a lot of that money is being spent on hiring more people just to keep up with the business. So to go to go to that next level, to take it to like a full on use an app. I mean, not only there's also the problem with what do you do to people who cannot access the technology to make a fully online order who do not have credit you know i mean there's already there's so many like so many issues with it but
Starting point is 00:13:50 it's a problem because like when you look at new york dozens of grocery store workers have have passed away because of coronavirus so it's like what the fuck how you know so it puts us in this spot where we're not saying we need to close them, but shit, what's the best fucking way to do this? Because we damn sure can't just keep putting these workers at risk if customers aren't going to exercise responsibility. Yeah. I totally agree that we are not at a place where we can just shut grocery stores because we don't have, like not everyone has access to just go online and order for a delivery of groceries to show up to them we're just not prepared it's not logical at this point
Starting point is 00:14:30 and I think like the I'd say like the second most triggering thing for me personally was like when they told us to not go out grocery shopping and I've only been grocery shopping three times since I started isolating on the 12th and it's nerve-wracking because I go to the grocery store and I feel like I see so many of the workers doing their like their absolute best like I've only been to 365 here in Silver Lake and um you know they have the six foot rule for the line you have to have a mask they like completely sanitize down the carts before you touch them and most people inside the stores are being pretty good but there's just like absolute mouth breathers who will never learn their lessons like i will be patiently waiting
Starting point is 00:15:17 for someone to finish choosing whatever you know pasta they want or whatever and i'm obviously like six feet away waiting. Yeah, like lurking, right? Yeah. And an absolute moron will show up, reach over that person, like arm over and I'm like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's like, excuse me, you got to get these Annie's cheddar bunnies. Yeah, it's insane. I'm just like, why can't we practice like patience, mindfulness, like just like be in the moment and remember that you can't reach over someone anymore. I had a woman touch. This is so funny, but I had a woman like I left my cart to go get some food and I was
Starting point is 00:15:57 two feet away from it. And she I turned around and she was holding my cart with both hands and she wasn't wearing gloves and I was wearing gloves and a mask and she wasn't wearing gloves and i was wearing gloves and a mask and she wasn't wearing um gloves i already said that but i'm freaking out um and when i said oh excuse me that's my cart she went and she like pulled her hands off and then pulled out a um a sanitizer wipe and i was like oh she's to kindly sanitize my cart, which she touched with her disgusting bare hands. No, this woman wiped her own hands and walked away looking at me like I was nasty. And I was like, you're the one going around touching people's carts, okay?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. You creature. She's got that thing. She goes, oh, you're wearing gloves and a mask. Something must be wrong with you. See, I'm healthy. That's why I do not have any protection because I am untouched. Yeah, it was like, you are the wild card that we're all afraid of yeah like the it's it's so funny like seeing people funny but terrifying seeing people take off their masks to sneeze
Starting point is 00:16:56 have you guys seen that no my god no i'm so limited in like the time I even spend I I treat I try and get in and out as quickly as possible because like I'm half the time I feel like I could be asymptomatic I don't get I don't get sick all the time but sometimes I'll know people around me like in my family have so in my mind I'm like fuck man what if I'm just carrying that shit so like I'd have to half the time I'm treating myself like I'm the fucking ticking time bomb like I'm sorry don that shit. So like I'd have to treat half the time I'm treating myself. Like I'm the fucking ticking time bomb. Like, I'm sorry. Don't even look at me.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like, please just take this fucking, like, I'm like, y'all have Apple pay. No. All right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I'm not coming in here. Like, yeah, I had to like, my card wasn't working and I had a side bit more than once. And I was panicking. I was like, Oh no,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I'm so sorry, everybody. But I mean, yeah. And I think that's, you'd hope that people can exercise that kind of compassion in terms of like i don't do that because i'm like oh my gosh it's everything is so bad for me it's just like fuck man like we have such a duty to each other to try and ensure the
Starting point is 00:17:54 best outcome that it's like you have to like in a way like i have to look at everybody as being my family like i gotta give a fuck even if i you know whatever don't know you but i want to exercise that same amount of courtesy like fuck bro like that if you were my mother father brother whatever and at the store i would want to make sure people around you are treating you with you know being safe and considerate so yeah like you want people i just want people to feel not just i want them to be safe and i want them to not get anything from me or from anyone else i also just want people to feel not just I want them to be safe and I want them to not get anything from me or from anyone else. I also just want people to feel comfortable. I feel like you showing up someplace knowing you're going to be around other people now without a mask and without gloves and without those precautions is the same thing as someone just walking around with their dick hanging out.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It doesn't make us feel safe or comfortable. And you shouldn't do it because your dick can easily stay in your pants. You don't have to have it out, man. like it's the new dick hanging out yeah i'm like you all are a bunch of louis cks and you're freaking me out well he's trying to well look you know they if the masks are off then they can fire up this economy as quickly as possible man fuck this economy that's right that's right yeah i mean what one thing that that I was just thinking about is that grocery stores used to be a counter that you would go to and basically hand them a list and then they would go in the back and like get the things for you.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I wonder if like going back to that model might make sense. Like, I mean, that's kind of how a lot of takeout restaurants, they have a counter out front that you just have to order ahead and then come pick up your order, which minimizes the interaction that happens once you're there.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But I wonder if even having that model of just a counter where you can hand a list uh might work as a way to get over the fact that not everybody has access to postmates or whatever right and i think that i mean and then you probably just have to everyone would just have to kind of come to grips with the fact that like maybe you can't get your shit immediately like you gotta go drop off your order and then you get it like you know a couple hours later come pick it up they'll be
Starting point is 00:20:10 like all right i'll have your bags ready for you know like just like that but i think that's those are the kinds of problem solving exercises that are going on i think in the industry because a lot of especially like people who like who are managing the stores they're they're the ones who are also being like fuck man i also i kind of want no customers in this motherfucker because these people somehow sometimes don't know how to act or unfortunately my employees get sick and like how the fuck do we do this where we're doing you know it's tough but yeah i think holding people accountable is good though i think it's okay to say hey dude you're being reckless're being reckless. Get out of this grocery store. Like, I think we should start kicking people out of places if they're not, you know, behaving accordingly.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, because I don't know how pervasive it is, like, across the state. But I know in L.A., like, it's pretty much like, yo, don't come in here if you are unmasked. Like, it's just like, you need to, I'm sorry. No mask, no service is a sign now. And I don't know how many other states or cities are doing that but like i'm like yeah that's true like just at a fucking minimum let's just do fucking everything we can you're not even allowed to bring your own personal reusable bags so now right which is i mean good because obviously like those bags get used a lot and i don't i know
Starting point is 00:21:20 from personal experience i don't clean my reusable bags that often. So that can get pretty. That often or ever. Like I'll do it like once a year. Damn, look at you, fancy money bags coffee over here. I just put it down in a wash, you know, the wash machine 175, not that big of a deal. But I think it's in a weird way. I think it's important and cool to have to test your own patience, though, when you're saying that, like, you know, we have to be OK with not immediately getting the things you want. Like, I think instant gratification is a shitty thing that we've learned.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And I'm excited to have people challenge themselves to learn to not have to get everything they want immediately. Like, you know, people who didn't grow up in privilege didn't have that experience ever for most of their life sometimes never they they never get it so it's like i'm pretty tired of people whining about not being able to get like a pina colada immediately like go fuck yourself right all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
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Starting point is 00:26:35 What is it? Disinformation. Oh. What is it? Yeah, there's a couple things that seemed transparently like bullshit to, I think think most people who were paying attention who would be listening to this show i guess one of them being that uh bill gates started the coronavirus uh and in order to profit off of a cure the problems with that is that he doesn't
Starting point is 00:27:03 need to do that to make all the money in the world because he's already a billionaire. Not a good plan by him. Yeah, but they need more. They need more, though. That's why I believe it, man. Because when does it stop? Oh, interesting. So that was one of the really dumb pieces of misinformation. There was another thing that I actually kind of got caught up in because there was a about you two being from another. There was a thing about there was a thing that the US military was going to start enforcing stay at home orders, basically. stay-at-home orders, basically. And there was this video that was shared on social
Starting point is 00:27:46 media that had this big line of tanks driving into San Diego that was being shared as like, this is right now, you guys. The military's coming in to enforce. And it was not. It was like some sort of, they were coming
Starting point is 00:28:02 for a military exercise or something. Yeah, also, it's not like there's a gigantic base right there. It'd be fun if it was like three people cosplaying as tanks for Comic-Con. They're like, look, it's happening. It's time. Yeah, it's like living by Dodger
Starting point is 00:28:17 Stadium and seeing people in Dodger gear, and you're like, whoa, I don't know about this. I think a gang's in town to take over the city guys enough of this making fun of me for being stupid uh but yeah i did i did for a second i was like oh no honey come here look at this well there was another video that was one from from a guy in silver lake and i know who took that it was like someone i know's boss or some shit was taking because there's another one from from a guy in silver lake and i know who took that it was like someone i know's boss or
Starting point is 00:28:45 some shit was taking because there's another one from silver lake with ones going by the reservoir and they're like it's la too man it's not like you know they have to move infrastructure around but yeah some fucking development show is like it's happening you've also you've got to consider people who own tanks recreationally and need to travel them from place to place you know at a time like this obviously it's a you know that right not you want to travel but they'll be confusing a lot of people not unlike yourself jack sort of the yeah the fucking idiots of society probably find it pretty confusing fair uh you know i've i've been nailed uh of those theories i like the bill and melinda gates one better that's more fun for me yeah yeah it's more fun it's he wants to like a new body or something
Starting point is 00:29:36 like he just wants to make her an iron man suit so he had to do this i really like watching them interviewed together because he checks with her like when he talks he's always like kind of gesturing to her to be like she's really letting me say this like that's what his body language says and i like it like she clearly runs runs shit in that household the other reason that people thought that was believable was because bill gates was like hey we are really in a bad place for a pandemic like this could be coming last year. And people were like, no way could science tell you that. This must be a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But anyways, a lot of these are, it turns out, being not necessarily started, but definitely stoked by Russia, China, and uh iran according to u.s intelligence facebook in particular it's the same sort of dynamic that has been fucking with the u.s in general for the past seven years one thing i've noticed is uh russia absolutely love goofing around with you guys on facebook it's one of their big hobbies yeah i just want to tell them knock it off yeah yeah if only some russians were listening to the daily zeitgeist you know we could finally sort this thing out once and for all please come on knock it off all right enough with that now and like even even more so now than four years ago, it's truly only parents on Facebook now.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They're the only ones left. It's a huge voter block of dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb people. Because that's the only way you're going to get that kind of news. I'm like, I've never heard anyone say that to me about something that's happening right now. Yeah, you know that. I'm like, what? No, it's like our mom's friends.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah. It's the exact generation of people who would take the information as read and then sort of dispense it with total authority without considering second guessing it at all. The sort of things my mom posts on Facebook would make you sick. It's like an entirely different language.
Starting point is 00:31:43 She sent me like 10 memes in a row like within six minutes yesterday and then ended up being like by the way your childhood friend has covid real bad and then like waited it was fine i'll send you this screenshot it's like it's like two horny memes one like three emojis one thing saying like massachusetts schools are closed for the rest of the year and then your dear friend has covid and then 10 minutes later he's fine i feel like your mom should start a newsletter that sounds like a lot of fun great way to start start the day. That's great content, Jamie. That's what that's called.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah, content creation runs, courses through my veins. That whole experience felt like an ayahuasca simulator. The engagement on that communication has to be through the roof. So she should actually be working in tech. She sent me a picture of my dog at some point in the middle is wild yeah but anyways a lot of you know this overlaps with q which this is one of the i i'm sure a lot of other people have had this thought before but like q is probably real right yeah he's probably i had that thought too man he's probably molar right had that thought too, man. He's probably Mueller, right?
Starting point is 00:33:07 No, but I mean, at the very least, he's probably stoked by a foreign country that wants to fuck with how the US functions. But anyways, I thought there was a... In this article on the Wall Street Journal, that was about how hatred of the Gates Foundation and his speculation that he started coronavirus is next to a list of most popular articles.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And the number two one is Bill and Melinda Gates bought a $43 million house in San Diego and it just, it's like Some hot overlap. Yeah, but it's also hot overlap. It's hot overlap, but it's also like this algorithm-driven
Starting point is 00:33:57 world where it's, I don't know, it's whatever they think will get people to click is just the thing that serves us our news rather than like... Yeah, I've seen the rest of that most red tab and it's all articles about various different people called Bill, right? You can't help yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:19 That's right. Another piece of misinformation, it's not like we need these other countries to help spread misinformation because we've got the president and Dr. Oz doing it themselves
Starting point is 00:34:34 specifically with hydroxychloroquine you can just call him Mr. Oz Jack, no one has to call him Dr. exactly call him the wizard of Oz now it's almost too on the nose that he is named Oz No one has to call him doctor. Exactly. Call him the Wizard of Oz now. It's almost too on the nose that he is named Oz and he is completely full of shit. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So him along with the president and many other people on Fox News have been screaming about hydroxychloroquine and how you need to rub it all over your ass and neck or whatever, eat it, and then you will be cured of all your ills. There was like a woman who like tweeted something that the president retweeted even where she was like, I made a full recovery thanks to hydroxychloroquine trademark. And, you know, this has been a thing where many experts have said, hold on, we don't know actually anything about this drug.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like, sure, maybe someone there's some anecdotal evidence, but we don't have anything like really that we can sink our teeth into. So please, can we wait for some real evidence? And now that we have it, it seems like there is no miracle. One of the latest studies or the few studies that have come out showed that the drug basically had no benefit in helping patients that had COVID-19. And then one study that was done with US veterans showed that more deaths were occurring in the group that were being treated with hydroxychloroquine than the group that was not. So that's where it stands now. And now we're seeing everybody from the Trump administration to Dr. Oz doing the hydroxycut. The what?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Nope. Don't know. Never heard of it. What do we think Stedman thinks about all of this? Because a lot of people are demanding an apology from Oprah for introducing Dr. Like unleashing Dr. Oz. And Dr. Phil. The two fake doctors. Onto the scene.
Starting point is 00:36:28 She has not said anything about it. I wonder if Stedman is trying to push her one way or another. Not that it would work. I'm just curious about where he stands. Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil are like those two friends. You invited to a party. And you're like I think they're going to know how to act. And in the beginning they did. And now they've shown. I should not have invited them to a party and you're like i think they're gonna know how to act and then the beginning they did and now they do not they've shown they're like i should not have invited them to the party
Starting point is 00:36:48 it's 3 a.m at their party yeah right and they're talking about like eating like mixing lysol with like dr oz is saying he has the last lewds on earth you're just like this guy needs to get out of here so you know the president was asked about this. They said, hey, have you seen this study? You know, you've been talking a lot about hydroxychloroquine. And he goes, no, I haven't seen this study. But that's the only one we've been taking a look at. And we're just like dodging all these questions.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And Dr. Oz, I just, again, we really need to compare the words of this man. Let's just go back what this is the year of our lord april 9th okay of 2020 and this is what dr oz is saying about you know how people need to embrace it and the reason people are hating on hydroxychloroquine is because trump and that's not fair just because you don't like that a political leader said one thing or the other, it undermines the fundamental process of the doctor talking to the patient. Yeah, that politician, she said it saved her life. She thought she was going to die. And the alternative was take this medicine. So it just makes sense for someone to take it
Starting point is 00:38:03 if they think they're going to die. I don't understand why this is so political. But let's anyway, you just need to listen to one question. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's one question. If the if it had never been brought up at a White House briefing, this medication, would people still feel the same way about it?
Starting point is 00:38:21 That's the fundamental question I think we ought to be asking. Because the ideas around this existed before it was brought up. Okay, so that's him saying, hey, man, they're framing it as people are dying. This could save them. What's the big deal? I love that one of the arguments that he makes to bolster the strength of encouraging the use of this drug is that just imagine that no one who is in the highest office in our country brought it up, immediately identifying that as a reason people would be skeptical. It's insane. And let's just cut to mere moments ago where this is Dr. Oz on Fox & Friends
Starting point is 00:38:57 kind of being like, oh, I don't know. I mean, we need to pump the brakes on this whole thing. Well, the VA study looked at older and quite a bit sicker patients, all male patients in their hospitals, and they showed that the drug by itself didn't help and might harm that population. As you know, there have been other studies. The VSA was retrospective. They looked back to see what had happened because they weren't gathering the data at the time that they were actually giving the medications. Studies that have done this prospectively, so looking forward and giving
Starting point is 00:39:25 it as they're collecting data as they're going along, like in France or the randomized trials from China, have shown benefits, but only really when it's given earlier to patients. The fact of the matter is, we don't know. Thankfully, these medications are prescription only, so doctors are desperately awaiting the completion of the higher quality randomized trials. And you've covered them on the show several times in South Dakota. University of Minnesota now has over a thousand patients randomized. There's additional trials going on. Let's get that data so we know what we're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Almost like that's why you do tests is so that you know and you don't talk about it before the tests, before you have that scientific information. But just three weeks ago, it was, if people are dying and they want to take it, just let them take it. I don't know what the big deal is. They don't want to mess with this stuff because of the president, and to literally saying,
Starting point is 00:40:15 we actually don't know if this is going to work. What the fuck? Sometimes it's worse for them. I mean, that's what i'm hearing but it was we we gotta find out from the test it was uncomfortable i mean not uncomfortable but he was squirming like you know he was trying to sort of say like oh like point to these other studies that might actually vindicate him by saying like you know there's other ones yeah that we haven't seen that maybe but you know and then this one it's more retrospective and and so it was like okay asshole we get it you got caught plagiarizing your fucking essay
Starting point is 00:40:48 he does that like this is not the first time he's done this either he's done this like so many times throughout his career where hope just push something actively harmful and then like backpedal on it when it starts to like be doc like clearly documented that it's hurting people like he did the same thing when he was telling everyone to get fucking coffee enemas a couple years ago. It's just escalated in the seriousness of how much he's hurting people.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I'll be the one to say it. It's bad. Okay. Wow. Damn it. Again. We're allowed to say it because we're Americans, but you're actually not allowed to criticize Dr. Oz. Sorry, you're not. It's like when someone makes fun of your sibling.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah, exactly. You lay the fuck off of Dr. Oz. You shut the fuck up. And meanwhile, there are the protesters on the right obviously there aren't as many of them like they're getting an inordinate amount of uh attention for you know not not having huge numbers but they're now attacking real nurses and real doctors uh not like physically attacking but like shouting at them and uh getting in their faces and calling them fake nurses and real doctors, not physically attacking, but shouting at them and getting in their faces and calling them
Starting point is 00:42:08 fake nurses and crisis actors. Oh, wow. Honestly, if you protest that, again, just like we have climate change deniers, they need a registry. If you think doctors and nurses are crisis actors,
Starting point is 00:42:24 get on a registry where you'll go to a crisis hospital uh and real actors who don't know what they're doing will treat you there i mean some people some people would continue to make that argument they'd be like wow that incredible actor did emergency surgery on me they must have gone to fucking juilliard you can believe in this for as long as you choose. You can just be like, wow, I got lucky. I guess I got the one actor who also trained at medical school. Actually, no, that actor was so method,
Starting point is 00:42:54 he did the eight years of medical training to perform that surgery. The dedication of these creeps is really. Meanwhile, Dr. Oz is a genuine crisis actor like he's a guy who has been performing the role of a doctor for his whole life no but this guy he fucks right but we've talked before about how uh doctors get attacked whenever there's a plague or a outbreak like this so i mean that's like this is par for the course and we just have to be ready for it and be aware that that shit's going to happen, unfortunately. Excuse my ignorance here. It's a challenging position, I guess, because one of the problems is like if you platform all of these people whose firmly held beliefs are so far off the boil, it's like you're giving opportunity for more people to catch wind of
Starting point is 00:43:45 that and then also buy in but i mean what you know is there any value in just outright ignoring it or is that sort of just leaving them to their devices mean that you're permitting that behavior to continue i'm personally of the opinion that you need to talk about it because otherwise it'll just it will be covered on in certain places like in conservative media and it'll be covered in certain places, like in conservative media, and it will be covered as them doing the right thing. So I don't think you can just totally ignore it and assume it will go away.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I think people who are smart need to know about the really dumb shit that's happening so that we can come up with strategies for dealing with it because otherwise it'll just it's like ignoring a fire. It's just going to keep growing.
Starting point is 00:44:36 To de-platform all that stuff, I guess you need total buy-in from all facets of the media, which is obviously... From Facebook. It's the Facebook company you guys let's be respectful facebook company i like them so much more now take them seriously okay i love facebook they're just a company of people you guys it's not like we're some ominous threat or that's correct that is wow that their pr was so bad that they benefited from reminding people they were a company.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Usually people want to distance themselves from that. It's crazy to think now the amount of space between the launch of Facebook and how ingrained in society it is that we just accept that this website that was a regular feature of our lives is just called Facebook. It's the most robotic Android-style title for anything. Yeah, it's a book of face it's just a fucking journal of faces for you to pull through yeah the book of faces is like something very ominous from the world of game of thrones book of faces um oh yeah and also like i think the reason they're going with the facebook company is because the reality is you can think of them as like a hostile like nation state.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like that's how powerful and populous and dangerous they are. So they're like, no, we're just just a little company here. Just a little social media. They should get PPP money. From when I started this in my dorm room as a college freshman. As a guy drinking Snapple apple pies. Jesus. Whatever those drinks were in his room.
Starting point is 00:46:16 So old people who have typically been Trump's kind of main jam are starting to get a little bit frustrated with him uh at least at this point we'll see if uh that holds or if the fox news of it all and the divisions of the upcoming election change that trend but as of right now we're starting to see the unthinkable which is a anti-trump trend very very small one and all it took was a historic mishandling of a global pandemic yeah right finally not even generational like century uh it hasn't happened in centuries yes the 65 plus crowd has big i don't know i mean again these are polls we can't i don't use this to go to sleep at night
Starting point is 00:47:05 i use it to say oh old some old people are angry right now it looks like and then we'll see what happens in november but uh biden has a nine point lead over the 65 plus uh voting demographic um in this one poll uh and it's pretty significant considering like the next group is like the young people who like that's like they're only second to the uh you know 18 to 34 demographic in terms of like what that uh that what the gap looks like and then there's a morning consult poll that shows that mid-march the senior citizens were like loved loving it they approved of his handling of the outbreak at like by a net approval of plus 19, and then a month later, it swung- I was going to say, that had to have been early.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah, it's dropped 20 points. So it's weird. I mean, again, I'm not saying that they've completely lost hope, but it must have an effect on elderly people, even though they have their steady Fox News diet, that they're not dumb enough to ignore the news that older people are dying in scores in nursing homes and probably younger relatives are saying, hey, don't be stupid. This could be really bad.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And they're like, hmm? So yeah, the numbers kind of show that. I've been working with seniors almost every day for the last month, and it's like people are getting fucking pissed. And, I mean, rightfully so, but as the ā€“ I mean, it's weird because I feel like some of it falls into like, oh, we're like-minded, but they're really frustrated with how the government is handling um just
Starting point is 00:48:45 treatment and making sure that uh seniors are protected and then there's another faction of seniors that are like i just want to go fucking outside and so they're they're mad that he's telling us to stay inside so you know seniors are wilds you know we got to protect them but you don't have to listen to their opinions too carefully or you'll start to get a headache i co-sign that i think keep them alive but there's got to be a cut off where they don't have to listen to their opinions too carefully or you'll start to get a headache. I co-sign that. I think keep them alive, but there's got to be a cutoff where they don't get to vote anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:10 They're not going to be living through the consequences of their decision. It seems absurd because all of your presidential candidates for a time seem to be within that same age bracket. So it seems rude to let them run for president but not vote for who becomes president but there's got to be a point where you say look guys your hands are off the wheel at this point yeah obviously i can't imagine this getting a lot of groundswell support it's just i'm just
Starting point is 00:49:34 pontificating a crazy theory where it's like if you're over 75 you don't vote it's only between 18 and 75 you get to vote and otherwise your, your opinions... Or at the very least, it's like the legislation that does affect it. It's like, hold on. You don't get a say in this thing about what our energy mix is going to look like for the next 40 years if you're a septuagenarian or whatever. And it's kind of a voting bloc that generally tends to vote on issues that only affect them specifically. But now it is affecting them specifically in like huge numbers so i i don't know it it makes sense to me that trump would lose a fair number of them to to make a huge difference all you would have to do is make them their vote commensurate with their representation in the population because they actually are over
Starting point is 00:50:25 represented they vote way more than anybody else so if you just like made it like well they're 15 percent of the population so their vote counts for 15 percent of like the overall vote total that would completely like shift the shift how uh amer proposition. In truth, it does sound pretty brutal to take the power of voting away from them because younger people can't be bothered to do it. With hindsight, you know. Obviously, we're still ironing out the kinks on this thought experiment. They don't call them senior citizens for nothing. They're good-ass citizens.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, they are. They go out. And they're old, too. I love... They live up to every aspect of the title. They're really nailing it when it comes to being seniors and being
Starting point is 00:51:14 citizens. Man, I love my seniors. I hope they don't vote for Trump. That would be great. Jamie, you're out there doing the Lord's work. Just listening to recaps of Bosch. I'm sure they're- 80% of the job.
Starting point is 00:51:27 People love Bosch. People love them some Bosch, apparently. Old people love Bosch. I wasn't going to say that to Gabrus the other day, but old people love Bosch. The olds love Bosch. Sounds like I need to tune in. All right, let's take a quick break,
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Starting point is 00:55:42 I felt like I was living in North korea but worse if that's possible listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and so is the olive garden at number one in our hearts. They need to go. Look, everyone now more than ever is doing their part to bring smiles to faces as they have for years. And some of these PR stunt things are just, this one is such a hey fellow. It reeks of hey fellow kids kind of like marketing that it's just hilarious. I love it. Olive Garden is such a hey fellow, it reeks of hey fellow kids kind of like marketing that it's just hilarious. So Olive Garden, yes, it is the spot for teenagers to feel like they're balling. To be like, oh, let's go.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Like if you're 15, 16, my mom will drop, I have enough to eat at Olive Garden. We will pretend we can tip after this meal. And then when the bell comes, everyone's like, what? No. Right. It's a good like, I went on like an anniversary date quote unquote in high school to olive garden we're like holy shit yeah thank you for the hospitality i don't know so the they apparently they refer to themselves as quote the unofficial pre-prom restaurant which actually kind of tracks with my own experiences of being like yeah yeah well yeah hit the olive garden the og so now they're doing like again doing their part because in these
Starting point is 00:57:10 difficult times now more than ever they want to bring us together amid coronavirus panic i'm so glad they have my back i feel good about it so with hashtag olive garden prom basically they're saying like kids can take a picture by themselves like someone takes a photo of you in your prom outfit and then their date do the same thing and then if you submit it together with the hashtag, someone will stitch the photos together
Starting point is 00:57:36 and make it seem like you're together. The last unfurloughed employee. Okay, that's a really mean thing to do. I hope that their, I mean, I hope that their hourly rate is good for doing that horrible task. This is also what's even worse is they have an app where you can do, they have downloadable prom breadstick bouquets, which feature, so those are ones they can lay on top of the photo
Starting point is 00:57:59 with things like Cavatappi Queen or prince of parmesan and breadstick bay this is still less embarrassing to me than john krasinski's weird youtube channel so i don't know yes wow i got roasted the last time i made fun of john krasinski's weird youtube channel but guess what it's fucking weird i'm with you on that one i haven't i can't bring myself to watch it because i'm like i don't want to hear from john krasinski outside of an ep of me watching'm like, I don't want to hear from John Krasinski outside of me watching The Office High. You definitely don't want to. He did a prom episode of his creepy YouTube channel. I'm just like, I don't need this.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I will say all these food companies are getting in trouble for taking small business bailout money. Shake Shack took all this money and then they had to give it back. Ruth's Chris took it. Olive Garden, not taking that bailout. They're just helping teens during this troubling dark time. We're in this together. Cheesecake Factory, they're like, we don't need the bailout.
Starting point is 00:58:53 We're just not going to pay rent. And you're like, oh, sick. They're like, what are you going to do, landlord? We're the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah, you can't. They're untouchable. What are you going to do to us? I know I'm being overly sympathetic to them,
Starting point is 00:59:05 but I would go to Olive Garden prom before I go to John Krasinski prom. If it comes to that, that's where my loyalty lies. Everybody's going to have to choose a side when the revolution comes. That would tip off the revolution. Cheesecake Factory getting evicted, that's when people fucking rise up.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. That would be the end. Comrade Cheesecake Factory. God, people love that John Krasinski show so much. getting evicted that's when people fucking rise up yeah that would be the end comrade cheesecake factory god people love that john krasinski show so much the do they some good news it but it makes sense it's so it's so transparent on its surface why people watch it like it's he it's like any idea anyone would have you know what people could really use right now something you can watch that doesn't isn't gonna stress you out that'll put could really use right now? Something you can watch that doesn't, isn't going to stress you out,
Starting point is 00:59:46 that'll put a smile on your face. And then you can go back to your cruel world. But like, I'm just too cynical to be like, I don't want that. I want to watch more Oz. It's got to be better than Jack Ryan. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Exactly what I'm saying. Um, speaking of, uh, Hey, fellow kids, marketing tactics. so stake them you've probably heard has like this damn near killed twitter persona stake them damn near killed them
Starting point is 01:00:13 they have this twitter persona where they're like really dark and they're like friendly reminder in times of uncertainty and misinformation anecd anecdotes are not data. Like saying things that are actually true in sort of an angsty way where it's like, huh, that's so weird that it's coming from Steak'Em, the company that sells shitty fake meat. Well, it turns out it's the work of the marketing firm that they hired, which is probably pretty obvious.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But the firm's owner got their 28-year-old son, Nathan, to write the tweets. Whoa. According to Nathan, he tries to embody the, quote, brand features like how it was a family-owned frozen meat company built by the working class, which isn't true. We'll get to that. And he says he tries to personify the brand using, quote, his own thoughts and an, quote,
Starting point is 01:01:16 adaptable human-esque style. That's so... So his dad is just like, Nate, you're depressed, right? Write something down. Hey, Nate, you're depressed, right? Write something down. Hey, here, here. Get off TikTok and get into my company's account. Hell yeah. I'm going to give you the login for the Steakums Twitter.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Go. Just tweet what you normally would. Just tweet what you normally would. I'm surprised the account hasn't tweeted something. Do some of that millennial bullshit. Yeah, like something about his bitch ex-girlfriend. At some point, isn't Nathan going to slip up
Starting point is 01:01:45 and forget he's logged into the Stakehams? The meltdown is coming. Well, it's definitely going through his stage mom or stage dad of the company owner, his dad, his employer, who's like, come on, Nate, this is shit. Can you imagine what the relationship is like between them? What is this shit?
Starting point is 01:02:05 This is what they like, everybody's sad pelting him with like legal notepads filled with tweet like drafts that he's like none of these are good enough it's like oh my god these are not human-esque enough more human this isn't steak ums this is like a dad the dad says it's like i just i hope that they still live together they like have breakfast together and he's like uh nate i've really been loving your work um but i would love if you mentioned steak once like just yeah just fucking once nate so their ultimate goal is obviously to sell Steakums, which that's literally poison. So that's one thing that I hadn't really thought about
Starting point is 01:02:53 what Steakums was. I just knew it as a weird food thing. Is it for people? It started when a person whose family business was meat shipping realized that they could form the emulsified meat product that is comprised of beef trimmings left over after the animal is slaughtered and all the primary cuts, such as tenderloin, fillet, and ribeye are removed. So this is like the leftovers. We're leaving all this money on the ground. The emulsified meat is pressed into a loaf and sliced, frozen and packaged,
Starting point is 01:03:32 and then they turn it into steak them. Yeah, so the son of a meat packer invented a log of beef byproducts, which his dad promptly threw at him, shouting, nobody is ever going to buy this shit. And then they sold this quote-unquote family company to Heinz back in 1980. But I do like that Stakeham started
Starting point is 01:03:53 with a terrible father-son relationship and is now ending with one. Company tradition. Then there was someone who tried to start a rumor that that guy Nathan was the son of David Koresh from from the branch davidians wait that's amazing yes so in waco in our timeline that could be fucking true though that like awful atf fbi raid that like ended with like 80 people dying that they were saying that someone was trying to say that nathan was the son of david koresh and people were like, yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yep. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. That tracks. I have an entire epic screenplay that I wrote in my early 20s about the son of David Koresh. Yeah, you do. Wait. Can we do a Santa University style table read of it?
Starting point is 01:04:41 I don't know where it is, but let's put some time in. You know where it is. It's in a safe deposit box. You know exactly where it is. That I mailed to myself. Release the man you script. Yep, yep. Can somebody track down who spread that rumor?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Because I'm going to sue them for trademark. That was my idea that David Koresh's son goes viral. That's the first piece of terrible advice you get when you try to become a writer. Yeah, exactly. And then just mail the script to yourself, and then you're good, dude. Copyright known.
Starting point is 01:05:11 That's right. 15 years later. Yeah. So I am kind of obsessed with David Koresh and Waco and that whole thing, and there is a new miniseries on Netflix right now. I was watching it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Is it good? Is it good? I haven't watched it. It's funny because there's so many people from boardwalk empire in it like michael shannon they got michael shannon nookie's brother and then the other blonde guy who was like the polish guy anyway i don't know any of that i'm terrible with the names i just remember their character but it was weird for me to watch the character actor crop the character actor crop. Yeah, I was like, this is all boardwalk. Anyway, I very quickly
Starting point is 01:05:47 started blowing through the episodes. I'm like maybe at episode four right now, and I'm still kind of enjoying it. You know who's going to end up like David Koresh? Who? Jared Leto. Whoa. Jared Leto, yeah, yeah. Jared Leto is actually David Koresh's father.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I heard that. I'm clear. Jared Leto is secretly old Koresh's father. I heard that on Twitter. Jared Leto is secretly old. I like that theory. The series is well acted and it's told in a cool way because I was pretty interested in the whole Waco Branch Davidians incident and had watched all the news documentaries and stuff about it. But this one's kind of cool, the dramatization, because they start with the day the raid happens,
Starting point is 01:06:28 and then they, like, just smash cut to, like, nine months later. So they give you, they kind of sandwich the whole thing for you nicely in the first episode. Hell yeah. Should that be our rewatch? Nah. Nah. Also, it's made by the guys who made that, like,
Starting point is 01:06:42 Daniel Craig racist movie where, like where he's in a foreign country. Is it Daniel Craig? He's in a foreign country, but it's basically very straight up white people versus terrorists. That's Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan. Yep, Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Right, right, right. Starring the Some Good News Network guy. Yeah, yeah, I. Jack Ryan, Jack Ryan. Right, right, right. That's John Krasinski's Jack Ryan. Starring the Some Good News Network guy. Yeah, yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to find it. But the writers, directors of that are the people behind some really whack shit. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:15 So guys, let's talk real quick. What are we thinking for our rewatch over the weekend that we can go deep with people on? I'm feeling very indecisive this week. I don't know. Miles, it's your decision. I was going to suggest National Treasure, but we just did that on the Bechdel cast.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I would talk about it again, though. Do it again. Well, let's not cannibalize your takes there, since they can find that gold on your show. No, she's got takes ready to go. I'm like, these are the same ones from the show. These are stale takes.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Oh, these are stale takes. Should we do Men in Black? I know we were dancing around that one. I'm down to do Men in Black. Yeah, Men in Black is widely available too, right? It's on Netflix, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Okay. Well then, Men in Black it is. That's a good one. Lots of people have seen it. Lots of people will be able to rewatch it if they want to go deep again. Barry Sonnenfeld. Barry Sonnenfeld, who is just a network favorite. We love him. You love him, folks. You got to love him. Dude, I loved this movie so much because I was such a Will Smith fan as a kid. I had the screenplay that I would read over and over and over again
Starting point is 01:08:28 that I bought at Bookstall. Wow. Precious. That is amazing. Honestly, I would used to tell people all the time, I make this look good way too often. It's still good. You know what the difference between you and me is?
Starting point is 01:08:42 I make this look good. Then he puts on the sunglasses. That was like the more swaggy version for black kids rather than saying, like, somebody stop me. I make this look good. By far the better option. I was the masked kid. I was like, nailed it.
Starting point is 01:09:02 No, but you know, I was also masked. Do not go in there smoking oh what do you guys know about cuban pete oh he's a king there's so many so many kids whose entire sense of humor was jim carrey impressions in the like early 90s oh yeah checking in checking in hello all right well so men in black it is everybody uh rewatch that this weekend we will Checking in. Checking in. Hello. All right. Well, so Men in Black it is. Everybody rewatch that this weekend. We will be back on Monday to talk about it and just analyze.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Pick it apart. Eviscerate it. Carl, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you and follow you? I am on Twitter and Instagram at Carl Hess. That's K-A-R-L-H-E-S-S. Nailed it. I also have a food podcast called Yelling About Pate.
Starting point is 01:09:51 If you want more cabbage takes, talk about a cabbage a lot on there. That's at YapPod on Instagram, Y-A-P-P-O-D. All right. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I really like this one from a guy named Cullen Crawford at HelloCullen. Just do a show where Elaine Seinfeld and Kramer
Starting point is 01:10:12 were murdered in jail and Costanza has to readjust to society. Genius idea. Genius. That's so good. Jamie, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on twitter.com slash jamieloftishelp or on Instagram at jamiecrestsuperstar. I'm going to shout out the goddamn January Jones video.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It's so good. Oh, shit. I was not following January Jones on Instagram because I didn't know I should have been. But my friend Cassidy Olson at Olson Cassidy reposted something that January Jones posted, which is her trying to make one of those celebrity stay-at-home videos about how gardening has helped her, which would have sucked but her eight-year-old son is directing the video and he keeps like making her stop and start over and it just like devolves into gray gardens in the first 30 seconds where she's in this like robe and he's like cut i need more
Starting point is 01:11:19 emotion and she's like i disagree i don't think i need more emotion like she's like taking his direction so seriously how old is like all right is this one he's eight and she's but january jones she's just a weird lady like and then when i looked at her instagram i'm like oh she's a weird lady like she's like posting all these videos of her sweeping her house wearing masks and you're just like i don't know what's going on with her but she takes her son's direction so seriously and by the end he's kind of like broken her a little bit and she's just like, I don't know what's going on with her. But she takes her son's direction so seriously and by the end, he's kind of like broken her a little bit. And she's just like, I just don't know what you want me to do.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I think his name is like Xander because he's like some rich kid. But he's like, she's like, Xander, I just don't know what you want me to do. He's like, do it again. Do it right. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:12:01 You have to watch it. Xander Dane. That sounds so good. Yeah. Of course. Xander Dane. That sounds so good. Yeah. Of course. Xander Jones. If you don't say action right now. Xander Dane Jones.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Miles, where can people find you and follow you? And what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey. My other show, 420 Day Fiance, talking about 90 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Some tweets I like. God damn, this one just cuts right through my spirit. It's from Reductress.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It says, how I'm staying sane by jogging and telling everyone about how I'm jogging. That's about me right about the now. That's so spicy. now guys you gotta jog let me tell you baby it's so meditative and also one more from Reductress quiz have you made the bon appetit focaccia yet
Starting point is 01:12:55 or do you live with someone you can fuck feel that at tweet potatoes 314 tweeted priest the groom has chosen to write his vows. Me, hi everyone. I'd like to perform an acapella version of the song
Starting point is 01:13:11 that most perfectly encapsulates my bride, the beautiful and amazing Grace. Audience, aww. Me, into mic. Yeah, it's been. And then Ada McVian tweeted, daily reminder that turtles are not inside their shells. They are their shells.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And it's a picture of like a turtle skeleton. And apparently they are like, there's not a shell really. And Natalie Rotter-Laitman tweeted, imagine getting this reminder daily. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
Starting point is 01:15:07 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 01:16:40 Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber Show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs, answer your listener questions and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it.
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