The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 125 (Best of 5/11/20-5/15/20)

Episode Date: May 17, 2020

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These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, guys, it's a very special episode because we've got another one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore. She is the skim goddess. She is Lacey Mobley. What is up, y'all?

The Skim Goddess. I would also like to be the Skim Goddess. Have you been listening to a lot of Pudcast or something? Yeah, the Pudcast. I love Pudcast. That's actually very good. I love to be on Pudcast. Lacey, how are you doing in quarantine?

I mean, as good as anybody can be doing. I have a routine now now every day when the sun goes down or gets cooler i go out and i take a walk um sometimes i get on the phone with friends uh yesterday i was on the phone with a girlfriend on my airpods and this homeless man started he just started yelling he's like you fucking black bitch you bitch you bitch he's like screaming at me right and i'm walking past why was i just like walking past like la la my friend's like oh my god who's screaming at you i was like oh girl i live in hollywood you know how it'd be she was like can you cross the street

she was like can you cross the street why are you not afraid i was like you know it's just nice to hear somebody talking to you these days it feels nice to be seen feels nice he knew i was black you know he got yeah i was saying you felt seen i was saying like in a past episode how often everyone just says hi now like it's almost like you live in fucking whoville or some shit like hey how are you whoa good day good day have a good evening i'm like okay oh i miss i miss being yelled at in the city that sounds nice yeah it was maybe we should just make a podcast like that like an asmr experience called getting yelled at in the city right for new yorkers my fucking way yeah Hey, yo, blue shirt. Hey, yo, blue shirt. Oh, I could fall asleep to that.

I could fall asleep to that. Hey, yo, blue shirt. Oh, my God. Oh, my fucking head. Right. What is something you think is overrated, Andy? This takes a little bit of explaining, but the concept of genius in the 21st century,

and I'm mostly- I love this. Tread carefully, sir. Some of us have a vision. of genius in the 21st century and I'm mostly tread carefully sir some of us are geniuses yes except okay so accepting let's let's pretend that I'm not talking about

Mensa all right and what I am talking about is someone like Elon Musk who is what I will say is a dumb dipshit who got lucky. But like, this is the thing about... Got lucky to be born into a ruby mine. Yeah, Emerald. I looked it up

so I would... I was born in a ruby. I wanted to mind my P's and Q's, because I didn't want anyone to come for me on this one, because I know like if you criticize Elon Musk, a bunch of people that uh will never have any money and uh have no connection have no connection to like that's what his fans are called they are no i just made that oh i love it bro fighting 99

down in flames we go i'm just thinking that movie tuskegee airmen with laurence fishburne his last scene at the fucking cockpit anyway i'm sorry so but tell me about the 24 are you talking about more of like a classical uh like in the antiquities era idea of what genius was and that people had a genius versus people being a genius no just the 20 like in the 20th century okay think of the people that people had a genius versus people being a genius no just the 20 like in the 20th century okay think of the people that like are called genius now it's uh dummies like bill gates steve jobs jeff bezos these are people who like just invested rich money like they were wealthy like elon musk had a had family wealth from an emerald mine, all right?

He dropped out of a physics PhD program after two days. And all he's done is invest his money. I was about to say well, but I think he's just invested his money and got lucky. And then he has backdated his ego, right? And he says, well, because I'm'm rich i must be a genius and then everyone like agrees that oh these people but they must be geniuses because they're wealthy as opposed to like they've exploited all their labor or they had family wealth in the first place or they got lucky but like i was thinking about like genius andy that's genius though that they did that you know 20th century who do we call geniuses einstein right neils bohr

um picasso uh picasso watson crick and franklin right uh james joyce like people who either uh scientific like change the scientific paradigm change the literary or artistic paradigm in some way, those were geniuses. Yeah. And now it's like a dude who buys a ski-do factory. I feel like it's just all about how effectively you manage to mythologize yourself. Because I'm sure that there are some people that we have historically labeled as geniuses who aren't. I feel like Edison is a really good example of that,

where more than a basic snuff test reveals that he was, in many ways, a total fraud. And what was he, Jamie? He's just like these shitheads. Yeah. Right. So it's just like, if you're able to afford to effectively mythologize yourself, you'll probably get away with it. Edison is the Elon Musk of the 20th century.

Yeah. Damn. Wow. Damn. I was just thinking of just the way we use the term genius as compared to antiquity when that concept of genius emerged is that people had a genius in which it was something external that would visit them to inspire this great work out of these people.

And over time, we began to sort of co-opt that with our egos and narcissism. That wording became someone was a genius. That person is a genius rather than has a genius. And I think it's interesting just to even think about how you might create things because you look look at somebody you'd be like if you're a musician like oh I love you know fucking Johnny Greenwood he's a genius or whatever like what does he do or but is Johnny Greenwood thinking that he's a genius or is it more about inspiration that you are opening yourself and allowing yourself to create things and that's where the that's where it comes out rather than like I think people put this pressure on themselves be like if I want to be a genius then i'm gonna do exactly our first the way

we used to even articulate this concept was that like someone opens themselves up to some truths that they are able to then interpret by how open they are rather than like they fucking got it this guy's got the fucking genius why do you think I took my name off of DreamWorks? Yeah, that's the facts. The way that I've found that term used a lot is just like, it is like a narcissistic thing, but it also is like, I feel like sometimes used to remove accountability from your own behavior and actions.

In the case of Elon Musk, and in the case of just like a lot of the mental people that i was talking to back in the day it's just like a situation of like oh this person's behaving erratically they're they're making bizarre choices and then it's just like oh well they're a genius so you just don't get what they're doing it's like no they could conceivably just be being an asshole or or acting weird and then but if you are able to like label yourself as greater than you're like you couldn't possibly understand why i'm exploiting my workers you're just like yeah let's not forget i mean right now we have a very stable genius yeah exactly very similar

situation yeah yeah i think the way that america in particular commodifies like and commodifies narcissism and like makes people think that they are the genius rather than they are transmitters of a genius is there are a lot of american authors who just write one great thing and are heralded as geniuses and then like never write anything again because there's like there's something just like toxic and unnatural and incorrect about that whereas i feel like other countries are just like i'm plying a craft or i'm you know a uh i'm channeling something higher than myself does the sophomore album curse i wonder if that's unique to american music or if we looked at is is the curse of the sophomore album like globally

embraced as like a law of creativity you know what i mean because i'm to your point jack about this emphasis you do one thing or you come out with this work early then the this the expectation of like the subsequent works just becomes like exponentially higher uh to the point where like you have no way to compare it really but i'm but then also there are some objective sophomore efforts where you're like yeah you clearly got a lot of money and stopped giving a fuck but i'm i'm i wonder culturally if that's something unique to us in our pursuit of fame. It's not a rule. Because I think that's how you burn out.

Yeah, I do feel like it's a tendency that Americans have that doesn't really exist as much elsewhere. Exceptionalism, baby. Yeah, yeah. What is something that you think is underrated, Kate? I'm going to talk about a director that I kind of discovered this year and I'm still working through her filmography. But it's funny to me during this quarantine time, everybody is talking about like comfort food movies

and especially Nancy Meyers movies. But one of my big discoveries this year is a director named Joan Micklin Silver who made some of the best romantic comedies I've ever seen. I would say the two best movies to start with her are a movie called Crossing Delancey, which is just this really low-key romantic comedy from the 80s with Amy Irving.

And she somehow makes Peter Riegert into the sexiest man alive in this movie. Don't ask me how. He plays a character named the Pickle Man. And by the end of the movie, you're like, where is my Pickle Man? And she but, you know, the flip of that is she has another film called Chili Scenes of Winter that is about kind of, you know, a hapless 20 something who falls in love with a married woman and things do not go well. And that's with John Hurt and Mary Beth Hurt and is from the 70s.

But she's really awesome. She made movies all throughout the 80s and 90s uh some stuff that you know on its face looks like horn dog comedies like Loverboy with Patrick Dempsey and then you watch it and you're like oh this is a movie about how women's sexual desires are uh not prioritized and how their emotional lives are not uh shown on screen so she's really dope. She's still alive. If you can seek out any of her movies, I highly recommend it during quarantine. She's dope.

Wow. I didn't realize Loverboy was that deep. I've seen various moments of Loverboy. That's the pizza delivery one, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I guess it's based on a true story of a guy in Beverly Hills who was delivering pizzas to rich ladies and was sleeping with them. But it starts off in that sort of 80s raunchy mode. And then by the middle of the movie, you have all the women he's visiting

giving these tearful monologues about how nobody pays attention to them. And're just like trapped in these mansions and you're like okay what movie am i watching um but she's uh i don't know her movies all kind of do that you think you're getting one thing and then by the end you're like this is very different than i thought it was gonna be um is in it christy alley you think this studio ever had notes they're like after these women i don't know like when they say these long-winded things can patrick dempsey's be like hey so we're gonna fuck or what or something kind of lighten it after that i don't know what's going on here it is funny because in the movie you have those scenes and then it's like back to the pizza parlor where that's amazing.

I realizing that he that Patrick Dempsey was in in 80s romcom makes me realize I have no idea how old Patrick Dempsey is. Right. I thought he must be very well, like well preserved because I wouldn't have guessed. Yeah, I think he was like a teenager at that point. Like the point. Right right he was a lover boy not a lover man not too late for a reboot the one thing i remember that from that is lover man it's just about a guy who has sex

this is about a guy who fucks The one thing I remember is that Extra anchovies was the order That they used to signal Because they knew it was so gross That nobody else would order that Anyways Little lover boyfriend

What a time to be alive Fun fact Jack always orders extra anchovies that is where my order comes from yeah uh just hoping that maybe this will come back in fashion what is a myth what's something people think is true that you know to be false or vice versa um maybe controversial but i think napoleon's personal life is way more interesting than his military career or dictatorship. His family drama is just over the top Kardashian level type shit. And his love life.

I did not know that. Give us some hits. Well, my favorite is his love letters to Josephine. Like he explicitly states he can't wait to frolic through her little black forest. Oh, I remember that line. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that.

What does that mean? Pubes? Yeah, her pubes. Napoleon went down. He was a generous lover. I thought he was talking about the drink at Coffee Bean. They did that after. I thought he was talking about the drink at Coffee Bean. They did that after. I thought he was talking about the ham.

Can't fuck with a ham, girl. A.K.A. your butt. Wasn't he really into body odor? He was very pheromone sensitive. Yeah. I guess he didn't shower very much.

He had very slick and oily hair almost incel level when he met josephine because she was actually part of uh the upper middle class and almost died in the revolution but missed the guillotine by a couple days or something so he hooked on to her for her class status but he hadn't had a partner before her and like totally was into it totally was in love with her then had a messy breakup so he could date uh i want to say a princess of austria and then after that that's when his family comes in and they want titles they want land they were bickering over uh who has the better status and It's just a mess, and I've gone down a lot of rabbit holes. So the military, Waterloo, whatever,

Rosetta Stone, fine, but personal life, he muff dives. He muff dives. Yeah, good for him. Like my t-shirt. Guys, look, it's my t-shirt. Napoleon, he did go down, so. Yeah, tight.

I feel like that's one of the great unexplored historical docuseries that we still need. The great Napoleon. The only example we have is from Get Shorty, right? The fake Danny DeVito movie. It was like a fake Oscar movie. I've been thinking about Get Shorty so

much lately. I don't even know why. I think about Rene Russo a lot and not even because of Outbreak, but just in general, I had a Rene Russo. She popped into my dreams like as a ticket taker somewhere. I was like, okay, Rene. Whoa. You work at AMC now? All right, cool.

Good to see you. Because I was going to a movie, and I think it was Get Shrunk. I don't know. These choir dreams. They are weird. I had a dream that Johnny Depp was my chiropractor. Don't know where that came from, but I was okay with it. I woke up feeling, right new day and yeah and you realized you

were wearing one of his turquoise bracelets when you woke up like how i beat shack exactly wait what you're like i like every time you have a dream about a celebrity you have to wake up with like a piece of their clothing on and then you know it wasn't actually oh right right right it really happened. You were just wearing one of Shaq's shoes. Aaron Carter really beat Shaq in the game. He couldn't have gotten that jersey otherwise.

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And we're back. On the subject of why we shouldn't want to go back to driving, let's talk about the roads and who is out there on them.

This is great news for me. Yeah. Why? Do you not drive much? I don't have a driver's license. I've never passed the test. Oh, well then this is great news for you. This is a big day. Listen, Jack, I know you see me drive,

but that doesn't mean that I had a license when I did it. Okay, riding dirty, Jamie. I'm trying to catch me riding dirty. That was back when I had my 01 Corolla. I'd pull up in my 01 Corolla and not have a license. It was kind of my thing. I'm proud of you. It was a fun summer.

Pull up to the scene with my license missing. So the Georgia Department of Driver Services or their DMV, a lot of bureaucratic institutions have just tremendous backlogs of applications and paperwork and legal cases, liquor licenses, whatever, just because shit's not moving right now and no one's out there. So to deal with their backlog of people. Thanks to the Green New Deal. Yeah, thanks to the Green New new deal there's a lot of

teenagers that had their permits and they're like yo i'm trying to get this fucking license i want to take my driver's test let me get in there on wednesday last wednesday the state's department of driver services said that they had upgraded 19 483 teen permits to full-on licenses. Without a test. Without a test. They just waived the test. I love it. And I hate it too. That goes from needing your parent in the seat next to you,

slamming their foot on an imaginary brake because they're terrified and think you're driving too fast, to just being able to drive on your own, just whatever the fuck you want. You know what? Some people don't test well, okay? Says the woman in Mensa.

Those driving tests are culturally biased. Here's the thing. Sometimes when someone says don't hit the curb, I hear something a little different and I never pass the test i i don't know this is a great idea y'all know i slipped through the cracks right no really no what do you mean i scammed my license i never took a driver's test i'm not even joking i've never

taken a driver's test no i know you i know you two have a license. I know, and I drive terribly. Wait, how did you get a... Okay, well, hey, we don't have to make it hot for you on here. The pride with which you just said that was... And I drive terribly. Okay, listen. Every day I get home, I'll be like, thank the Lord, we made it again, because it'd be touch and go on the road for me. But no, I went to driver's ed school,

but my sister went to driver's ed school and she did have to take a driver's license test. At the end of driver's ed school, my driver's ed teacher was like, you really need to practice more. And then I got my license. Wow. Oh my God.

Good for you. So I sympathize with these 19,000 kids. I hope that they'll be all right. They're mostly doing rural driving and i have so i have like such a i have like such a boomers like college debt being canceled take on this i'm like hell no i had to fail that shit fucking twice i had to go to like two spooky dmvs that were not near my house because those are like the dmvs and i that's that was what was the awful. I failed in Glendale.

I'm never going to pass. They give these shits out. I didn't learn how to parallel park until I moved to LA. Then I was like, I guess I have to do this. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't even hit people's cars anymore. Major.

I guess the licensing process is not the dragnet that we're making it out to be because I also basically failed but because the woman giving me the test was my teammate's aunt I just like got through. You got nepotismed.

I got nepotismed. Nice. I like that. She gave me an 80. She gave me the worst score you could possibly give somebody without failing them. And she would have failed me if she didn't feel bad for me. I like that. The personality

angle. You get in there and give a little sadness. And Jack, you cute. You was probably working some little cuteness too. I was crying the whole time. Just weeping openly. I was trying to get out ofeness too. I was crying the whole time. Just weeping openly. I was trying to get out of a ticket. I don't know. Very pathetic.

Really turned up the patheticness. Oh, man. I remember when I failed mine, I punched the dashboard of the car. And my dad almost fucking body slammed me in the DMV parking lot. He's like, that's your fault. Basically, it's like, it's that teacher and I hit the thing. I'm fucking 17 or 18 or whatever, wildin' out.

Yeah, anyway. Very angsty. I was in a good place. Yeah, see, I have a lot of stress around the driver's test. My blood pressure's going up. My watch is telling me to take a few breaths, breathes now. Anyways, take a few breaths, breathes now. Yeah. Anyways,

take a... Drive a couple clicks more conservative if you live in the Georgia area, guys. Yes. Be safe out there. What is a myth, Catherine? What's something people think is true you know to be

false or vice versa? The idea of a patient zero, specifically as it relates to the HIV epidemic. Wait, the COVID bad isn't real? Probably not. One of the reasons, so there's a couple of reasons why patient zero is a false premise. And one of them, I think it's so interesting and so basic. It's all about linguistics. The doctor who wrote up the report about patient zero, he actually didn't write zero. He wrote O, as in this is our patient who is outside of California because they were studying people in California. But it got misinterpreted as patient zero, which obviously is a way cooler like branding, right? It sounds good.

Yeah, as if they created the disease within themselves. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I will make it. Because the myth is about like a flight attendant, right? Yeah, exactly. A guy who, he was a flight attendant and the French-Canadian or something? French-Canadian. Uh-huh. Gaetan Dugas, I think was his name.

Right. And the idea was that he was just an absolute sex maniac going from city to city on the airplanes and fucking everybody and that he knew he was sick, but he didn't care. He just had to bang constantly. So none of that was really true. It's just a good story in the sense of like, oh, it's going to get all the conservatives upset. Yeah.

And helps reinforce those stereotypes. Yeah. And one of the reasons why he was actually incredibly helpful with studying HIV, it's actually really heartbreaking that he was so demonized because the reason he was so helpful was because he actually remembered the names of most of the people he had sex with. So they were able to trace from him, whereas all the other early patients were like, I don't know.

I don't know who any of these people were. So he was like sweet enough to catch their names and then he got in trouble for it, essentially. It's so messed up. So he was just noteworthy because he was so helpful to researchers, and there was so much written up on him because he was able to help do contact tracing? Yeah, that's exactly what it was. And then this book was published a few years after he died called And the Band Played On,

which is pretty famous. I think a documentary version has been made. Yeah, the HBO. And the person writing it like laid all of the blame for HIV essentially on him. And then a few years after that, the editor of the book publicly apologized saying that he let the author do that on purpose because he knew it would drum up book sales and he knew that it wasn't true oh damn you know yeah not worth it no not at all it's crazy so that's another thing i think like in in these times that looking for a patient zero and i see in the media they'll still do that like patient zero zero or like patient zero of this particular

outbreak in chicago it's like i don't know i don't know who should be doing that i don't know what benefit there is i mean maybe just for the purposes of scientific data gathering as like some way to just identify like i think this is where we need to look first but like for the meat that concept of it i think is what you're like talking about is like how we need like who do we blame exactly who the concept of it, I think, is what you're talking about is how we need, like, who do we blame? Exactly. Who the fuck was it who ate some weird shit? What the fuck?

I think what that idea of a patient zero helps people do is just be like, fuck that person. It just builds up their anger. Also, speaking of which, I want to say that we keep saying wet market in America, I think because it sounds gross, so we get to think that it's gross. It's a farmer's market. If we just called it a farmer's market, people would have a clearer idea of what they were talking about and maybe a less racist one. I don't know. Maybe. Why do they call it? Where did that designation of wet market even like what do you have to be to have a wet market? I think it's the things that they sell there, if I'm remembering correctly, that a wet market has meat and the dry market is

only grains and stuff like that? Oh, so fresh meat, fish, produce, and perishable goods. Yeah. The fucking farmer's market. Exactly. There's not a fish monger there. There's not a meat person there. There's not every person selling produce. Really interesting.

We have to move on to some important news because miles you've had a had a spiritual shift on your relationship to uh guy fieri yeah i mean guy fieri the fierissance as i call it has uh opened my eyes to some prejudices that i was holding against this man. You know, like the last, I feel like 18 months, I feel like the Fieri Sons has been like in full effect where every story that comes out is like, what, Guy Fieri's not a douchebag?

I truly think that Shane Torres, shout out Shane, like started the national waking up, the global waking up to the fact that Guy Fieri never did anything to hurt us. Yeah. And like, I'm like, wait, hold on.

This dude is like, got like, he's like a good dad and husband. I'm like, what? I'm like, what? He officiated a mass same sex marriage for over 101 same sex couples in

honor of his sister who was lesbian that passed away. I'm like, what? Yeah. So I'm like what here so i'm like okay and then the the reason i bring this up now is that like we found out that there was this national restaurant association education foundation fund that was being set up for restaurant employee relief because the food industry has been just absolutely fucked by this whole shutdown it's like it's horrific um to the point where most russians like i don't know what to do i don't know how we reopen i guess we'll just like just go till the wheels come off at this point and then we'll go from there but this fund was meant to you know help employees receive like a one-time 500 check when you apply to use for

whatever you need your bills your rent or whatever turns out Guy Fieri was on his grizzy because he was started banging those phones and reaching out to like corporate donors he knew he this dude raised over 20 million dollars for this fund like in a matter of a couple weeks for it and that means that's like when they break that down that's like 40,000 people who can get this grant because of him. And I'm like, yes, I abandoned like Guy Fieri sucks maybe a year ago, but I'm like, but now like with this one, I've had to take another moment is to just examine what my Fieri hate was. Was it that like it's funny because I'm a huge Triple D fan. I love that show.

I think it's great i love food there's not i never watch businesses yeah and creates exactly like the amount of business it's created for these small these small restaurants is fantastic like there's apps even dedicated to be like am i near a thing guy fieri's been to um and now when you but then i'm just sort of like what the fuck is it i'm like was it it was easy to talk shit because he just looked like a dude with spiked tips and shit and i was just like oh fuck that fuck his weird flame button ups i was like yeah it had to take a moment and just say like it was guy fieri merely there for me to feel cool comparatively and and not only now am i waking up to my own shallowness as to what my relationship with Guy Fieri actually is.

I don't know. Yeah. That was beautiful, though. I like that. I love that. I had this process. It was just weird. I'm like, why the fuck do I?

Like, honestly, I'm like, I like everything he does. Aside from me being like, okay, I wouldn't dress like that. Yeah. There's something to be said for like like it's easy to hate someone doing something very goofy very confidently i think that it's very easy to pile on and then yeah and but it's like if you look at like well what is that person actually doing like what are they doing they're promoting a local business while looking goofy and being confident then it's just i feel like it's almost one of those like i don't know like you're you're sort of uh cringing on their behalf because they're not going to cringe for themselves yeah right but he's fine himself he seems to like himself and i

and i think that's what it is right confidence and others no exactly like insecure people don't like to see secure people do their shit because deep down you're like man fuck why you why do you have that confidence to look like that you fucking right but like really i'm like it's necessarily like i think i'm speaking for myself i'm speaking for myself i'm dismantling my own insecurities vis-a-vis my relationship with guy fieri i think the way he entered the kind of collective consciousness is as like, it's like if Larry, the cable guy was a mad TV character,

Guy Fieri was played by the, was just a different character played by that same like mad TV performer. I feel like they were like, it was just that same like vibe. So I, yeah, it was just that same like vibe so i i yeah i just feel like he got a bad break from like how he came uh packaged to two people but yeah i i mean i agree like judging people by their by their hair is probably not fair um probably well also i think also i had a kind of chip on my shoulder

because I didn't like the name Tex Wasabi's I was like fuck that you don't know shit about any food bro just keep moving with the fucking fun restaurants and then there was that New York Times review of his restaurant in Times Square and I was like oh this guy sucks but it was like from this snarky

perspective of like food writers who just want to take a dump on yeah the food sucks or whatever but like in my mind now i'm like leave guy alone so i actually have a different take on that article because that um review of guy fieri's restaurant in new york times was very famous i thought it was very funny like it was written in a very funny man yeah yeah but i think people misunderstand what the writer was trying to do because they were saying that the writer was being a snob for caring that the food wasn't good at that restaurant. But I think what the writer was saying was like, people are going to come on a special trip to New York and they're going to go on a special trip dinner to this restaurant and the food's not good and you're charging $40 an entree and you shouldn't do that.

And I think that was like a different point but every but the way there were ways though i cross yeah i think there were some descriptions of the food though that i was like oh okay i mean look i enjoyed the good writer i mean there's no doubt don't get me wrong but i'm just you know again all this to say i'm i'm doing all this introspection now, uh, to, to, you know, this is what I'm, this is the work I'm doing in choir. If I come out of here loving Guy Fieri, then I feel like I've done my part. You've grown as a person. Did you know that he also fed firefighters and people who lost their houses?

Yeah. During the fire. Yeah. In Santa Rosa. He's just a fucking, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's weird how we just sort of reached this like threshold where it was no longer I don't know I think societally we all just began to be like yeah we're not whatever it's Guy Fieri like maybe we've all grown I don't know I will say also that I went to a very fancy food event

in Las Vegas at Caesar's Palace in the pool area and there's like multiple pools there and at all the pools it was a bunch of dressed up people like quietly drinking cocktails but then when you went to Guy Fieri's pool area that was a party they had like a Guns N' Roses cover band and like airbrush artists doing work and people were in the pool like it was a much more fun scene yeah definitely Daniel Bouloud is like scoffing from his side. He's like, oh. Exactly. Yes. Pretty accurate. I grew up in a very pro-Fieri family where it was TGI Fridays that carried his deal. Because I remember my mom was very enthusiastic about Fieri's output. And she also, I'm kind of,

every time I hear his name, I'm wondering where she picked this up. But she had this thing where she would be like it's not fieri it's fieri you have to pronounce it the italian way like she was very into him and so we went we went to like tgi fridays and my mom was like i would like guy fieri's mozzarella sticks like uh mozzarella he's fun he's like He's fun. And the best part is that Guy Fieri, depending on the pronunciation you prefer, I should put respect on his name, doesn't give a fuck what we think of him, and that is part of why he is himself. Someone who, if you're Guy Fieri,

you can't give a fuck what people think of you or you can't be yourself in that way. I think also the misunderstanding of what Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives was doing, because I know when it started, I think I was in my early 20s and I was like, why does he like everything? How can you be this enthusiastic about all food? Yeah. But now that like I'm smarter and also smarter people than me have explained it to me, it was totally just to keep these businesses going. That's what it was.

Yeah, I mean, if you go the John Taffer route where you travel the country verbally abusing small business owners, that's literally like it's just it's just as fun to watch but you're like, oh, this is a less noble endeavor. I mean, oh, this is a less noble endeavor.

You idiot! I hope this is... That article by Mann was talking about how another way that pandemics influence culture is by... There was a peasant revolt

after the Black Plague, and I'm hoping that we see, and maybe this is like emerging class solidarity where like we used to identify, like we used to be stratified by like, well, I'm a New York times reader and looking down on like Guy Fieri. Yeah.

And now it's more like, we are Guy Fieri. We are, we're all Guy Fieri. Dude, new thing. Instead of Guy Fox masks, Guy Fieri. Can you pronounce it? We are all Guy Fieri. Dude, new thing. Instead of Guy Fox masks, Guy Fieri masks? Yeah, dude. Oh, my God.

I love it. We need to do that. Have that shit marching on 1600. They're like, the Fieris are here. The McConaissance, he just got a Lincoln sponsorship. Whereas Guy Fieri is doing work. Setting off the revolution, bro. Raising $20 million.

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Jamie, you read the article? I read the article. Okay. So this is, I know that celebrities are canceled, but they're not for real. And so Robert Pattinson has a storied history of giving wild-ass interviews because he doesn't like doing interviews, and he's a loose cannon, and I think he's really bored right now. So I guess before we get into the interview he just gave to GQ which was bananas

I'll start by prefacing my previous favorite Robert Pattinson interview stunt which was back in 2011 he was promoting a movie called Water for Elephants it had something to do with a circus and he went on the Today Show with Matt Lauer, and Matt Lauer's asking, you know, bullshit softball morning show questions. He's like, oh, did you ever want to join the circus when you were a kid? And Robert Pattinson comes out and says, no, the first time I went to see the circus,

somebody died. One of the clowns died. Oh, my God. And then he goes on to say, the clown's little car exploded. The joke car exploded. Oh my God. Exploded. And he just like,

this interview ages very well because it's also fucking Matt Lauer. And he just like silences Matt Lauer and Matt Lauer's like, oh. Matt Lauer is the worst I mean obviously for the reasons that we've learned

but also just the yeah I guess we don't need the also but just he was a yeah he like his personality and his presence as a media like entity like I feel like just stopped making just fell off a cliff of making

sense like 10 years ago and now it's like looking back is like why are we letting this smug asshole be like professionally smug and professionally an asshole anyways i love robert pattinson ever since i saw a good time oh he's yeah he's he's like a good fun act like he gets away with shit that it almost makes me salty because like male actors can get away with anything and just be called a genius but that's not robert pattinson's fault that's the culture's fault so anyways robert pattinson comes out like a couple years later and admits that the whole clown thing was a lie he's like i made the whole thing up of course it's coming back to haunt me it was really early in the morning someone asked me what my experience with the circus was and i was like i have nothing interesting to say i don't know why i said that so he just lied to matt lauer

and so in this gq interview ro Robert Pattinson has been plus quarantine equals it's going to be a good interview. And in the middle of the interview, he brings up that he has this business idea. So he says... Wait, is the interview so far up until this point seemingly a normal interview? Ish for him.

And it kind of takes a turn, or it's got textures of our pat interview it it has but it's like generally pretty normal he's talking about like the christopher nolan movie he's going to be in he's talking about like being quarantined in the middle of production for batman like he says some funny things but it's like he's generally going with it but then i guess this is like i got this idea man one day that one day like three days into this like multiple day interview process he says uh this is his business idea what if pasta really had the same kind of fast food credentials as burgers and pizza i was trying to

figure out how to capitalize in this area of the market and i was trying to think how do you make a pasta which you can hold in your hand and then he goes on to say that he has a prototype for it and he made the prototype with a panini press and then he set up a meeting with i don't know if i'm saying this correctly lilia massimini who co-founded Sugarfish, like, Robert Pattinson called them up and was like, I have an idea for pasta you can hold in your hand. And, like, Massimini confirmed this. They had a whole meeting about it. And Massimini was like, it's 100% true. I was not interested.

Oh, shit. So this isn't a clown car vibe. Like, this has real... This is a long bit that he's doing it's fucking incredible like it's really impressive so he so he goes on to describe the product he says that it's called piccolini cuscino so it's called it's called little pillow piccolini cuscino um he's the my little pillow guy my pasta pillow guy yeah so he's like okay it's piccolini cuscino i'll pitch it to you in this gq interview and maybe i'll get an investor so he he's like okay i've got a prototype they're like on facetime he takes out a huge box of corn flakes um and he's like oh i couldn't find breadcrumbs at the store i'll get corn flakes He takes out a huge box of cornflakes.

And he's like, oh, I couldn't find breadcrumbs at the store. I'll get cornflakes. It's the same shit. He takes out one gigantic novelty lighter to flambe. He takes out nine packs of pre-sliced cheese. And he's like, and then you need sauce. And the writer is like, what kind of sauce? He's like and then you need sauce and the writer is like what kind of sauce he's like any kind of sauce pratenson puts on latex gloves put takes out sugar and aluminum foil builds the little piccolini cuscino and then he says okay now you have to microwave the pasta

he accidentally lights one of his gloves on fire and he so now he's holy shit so now he's hurt he has this giant like phony letter he lights his hand on fire he's like ow ow ow then he goes back and then he burns the the uh letters p and c into the top of a hamburger bun for piccolini cuscino uh then he puts the entire thing including aluminum foil into the microwave and says okay we're gonna heat it up and he explodes the microwave and there's like a lightning bolt that comes out of the microwave, and he takes cover all on FaceTime, and then the microwave breaks. This sounds very similar to me drunk trying to do pizza rolls. Right.

Holy shit. The commitment. Yeah, and then he just goes back to the phone, and he's like, yeah, I think I have to leave that alone, but that is a piccolini cuscino. What a fucking ender. And that is how you make it.

Did he just try it on the fly? Because you learn from the aluminum mistake once. He knew. He knew. He knew. He's just a joker, this guy. I saw the pictures. I don't know.

Maybe he's- How soon till Pattinson's the new fucking Jon john ham who's like guy who's like dying comedian he's don't see it happening no offense but he's more talented than john ham and no but i mean like he clearly has a knack for like he's likes comedy you know i mean like he has a sense of humor he's a little cheeky uh based on the lower shit and even this like microwave aluminum foil bit but i wonder if like he'd ever truly be like you know i like to do a little more comedy you know i think he wants to be like joaquin phoenix like i think he wants to be like a guy that can do anything and is known for being eccentric guy so this is yeah i think this is basically

manufactured so this is shitty manufactured eccentricity. I don't know. He's been doing it long enough that I believe that he's a weird guy. He did Twilight, and that's weird enough. He did Twilight, and he was also like, if you watch his old press interviews from Twilight, he's actively making fun of the experience. There was never a moment in his career where he was deeply sincere. Self-serious, yeah. He's actively making fun of the experience of being... There was never a moment in his career where he was deeply

sincere and then was like... Self-serious, yeah. He's a goof. He's a weird guy. I don't know. And it is true that really only male actors of a certain type can get away with this shit and not be dismissed as annoying or difficult, but

I just happen to like how he specifically does it. Alright. Yeah. Piccolini Cuscino, baby. I just happen to like how he specifically does it. All right. Yeah. Piccolini Cuscino, baby. I wait to see more from this comedian. Invest now. It does really, Kim, to your point, sound a lot like my behavior when I was drunk.

And I do wonder if we'll find out that he was just a fun drunk for most of his career. His entire adult life. Oh no. Yeah, in 20 years. He's like, looking back, I was sad to say this and I don't mean to upset anyone. Drunk on the Today Show at 6am? Every time.

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