The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 127 (Best of 5/25/20-5/28/20)

Episode Date: May 31, 2020

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25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh extravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Cody, how are you doing, man? How is CORE treating you? You know, I got to say, doing bizarrely well,

I stopped counting the days when day like 65 hit but for like the first 40 days like my existence wasn't too much different than it normally is as far as like just staying in my apartment and not going anywhere uh so like that's been pretty normal the only thing that i'm missing is guys i uh like i miss just grabbing like expensive lunches with friends like that's the one thing like Just getting some sushi, getting some pasta. That's the only thing that I've really been missing. I've gotten to this thing lately where I've just been taking drives once a week. I'll drive to Long Beach.

I'll do the PCH. I'll drive deep into the valley and come back. That's been the thing that's been keeping me mentally the most uh cleared and anchored over the past like i guess three months at this point two and a half years oh my god yeah that used to be a thing that people did i think in like at least based on my uh deep historical knowledge from mad men uh and like one other movie uh i think people used to like go on the sunday drive together where driving was the destination like people would just drive for pleasure uh and i find myself like coming up with an excuse to just like go for a spin around the neighborhood well that used to be like the whole

thing when like in high school like when we were driving and shit albums would come out on tuesdays oh yeah and you pick up a new cd and then you'd go fucking mob around and johnny johnno's infinity you know what i mean shout out to that path of that qx4 with on 20s and those guys tried to rob us that one time but that was like the activity was merely just like music and driving yeah and i'm realizing i'm doing that again a little bit too or like like you're, Cody, I'll take the longest way to go get something. Yeah. They dropped the Chronic on Spotify like two or three weeks ago. And I put that on and drove to Long Beach. And man, let me tell you, it was a mood.

It was a good mood voice. There you go. Yeah. The nice thing for me has been that I have never had a driver's license. So there's nothing to miss, really. By design. I only go as far as the Walgreens, and then there's an invisible force field because that's where I get tired.

You're stuck in your own little video game. Head TV over here. Cody, you've also been blessing the world, and super producer Daniel, who's not here today, but a big Doughboys fan, and he came letting us know about the Baja Blast HomeAge

recipe. Oh, yeah. So, first of all, I want to set the record straight. I gave the wrong mix level in the Doughboys. I said one-to-one. It should be 80-20, 80% Mountain Dew, 20% Blue Powerade.

Blue Powerade, not Gatorade. Blue Powerade. I'll keep it in the Pepsi family. Yeah, Pepsi family. I won't bought that brand name North Carolina. Shout out Kingsby Stand. about that branding north carolina shout out kings we stand um i will say that even with that 20 to 80 ratio it is there is so much uh high fructose corn syrup that you're putting into your body that like you instantly get sleepy and shut down so like i gotta say don't do it when you have

things to do during the day if you're like right you know maybe like you're like actually care about the things that you put in your body and not like me who just ingest all types of organ meats and poison um i will say i would not recommend doing it more than once a day or maybe even more than once a week it's a lot of it's like it's a lot of glucose you're putting into your body but if you're looking for a hack and you're like you're not near a taco bell, get that 80%, 20% going, and it'll set your life straight. All right. Have you tried the Baja Blast Mountain Dew Zero that they've been releasing in cans? I didn't even know that.

This is breaking news. Wait, what is this? Hit the shelves. Oh, Jack, don't tell everybody. Save this. Don't save yourself. So listen, I've got some breaking news of my own is I got a bad batch. I got a bunch of flat Mountain Dew Zero Baja Blasts, which I was very unhappy about. Wait, what do you mean you got a bad batch?

Like, what, the flavor was cut properly? Oh, it was flat. It was flat. Oh, no. You should go back to the grocery store. Now more than ever, you should go to the grocery store and be, excuse me, my dues are flat. Let me film you going off and you open each can, go, you hear that?

Nothing. You hear that? Nothing. You hear that? Nothing. I came here for carbonation. Fortunately, I have more than enough of good batches because i bought out the whole shelf so oh shit flex they're like sir you seem to be the only person with that problem everyone

else been happy and like cody says i came here for carbonation obfuscation yeah can't pull wool over my eyes guys guys what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa so we talked about this i mean this is an old this is again another very old reference but uh there was a thing there was a myth going around in the 1980s about phil collins lead singer of Genesis. Phil Collins sang a song in the air tonight. And the myth about the song was that he had watched someone else watch someone drown. Which we're like, doesn't that mean you watch them drown too? You fucking watch them drown. No, I was just focused on the bystander.

Oh, no, you saw him drown. What's that guy doing over there? What's that splashing sound over there so so then apparently he wrote in the air tonight where the lyrics of the song were and i was there and i saw what you did saw it with my own two eyes which is somewhat of a bit misnomer because he didn't do anything he just sat there and watched the guy drown so you saw what he didn't do right but so you you were there watched the guy drown. So you saw what he didn't do. Right. But so you were there.

You saw what he did. So then the myth was that he invited that guy to a concert and then sang that song to him to let him know that he saw him watch another person drown. Which to us was like, sounds like a logistical nightmare. Because what if you send the guy tickets and he comes. Then you got to be like, did he get here? Did he get here? Is he here? So now the whole band is in on it too.

They're like, guys, Phil Collins is like saying to Mike Rutherford, the other guys in Genesis. That wasn't Genesis. It was Phil Collins by himself. Oh, that's right. Phil Collins. He's saying to the band, hey, guys, listen. We got to have a real loose set list tonight.

It's got to bounce around. Because what if he's like ready to sing the song and the guy's out taking a leak you know what i mean or get getting a hot dog so now it's like maybe did they start the song and then notice he was gone and go to another song and then it makes him look very it it's it's a plan with a lot of holes that feels like a huge mistake so that feels like a myth that you know we all accept is true, but it didn't happen. I wonder if he really did see someone drown, though. Do a lot of people still believe that, though?

And then he's just trying to create some kind of layer of liability insurance. Right. It's like my friend is having marital trouble. My friend witnessed somebody drown. That's like, wait, what drown and didn't do anything that's why i wrote this there's a lot of people in phil collins life who are saying are you your friend yeah right right exactly i think people believe that he saw something because how would you write

that song i mean unless he just is like it's a metaphor for, you know, whatever. But maybe two hearts beating at just one time was him saying those two people are actually one. It's all me. Right. That was his confession song. There you go. Yeah. I have to think that's true. I think we've solved it.

We solved it. We busted that myth. What was your other myth, man? I think eugenics is like a crazy myth that it helps you because, you know, you see all those ads for like Frank Thomas, you know, the former white size. The Big Hurt. That's my favorite. The woman at the restaurant is like, no, no, they're at the bar. She's like, hey, that's Frank Thomas.

The Big Hurt. It's like you don't know that that's the Big Hurt. Right. You don't. I know that as a child of the 90s who loved baseball, but every time I see that, the first time I saw that commercial, it was so jarring because I was like,

I mean, A, Frank Thomas looks great. No shade to him. But who could he possibly be selling something to? I mean, I don't want to throw shade to him. He looks fine. He doesn't look like unbelievable. It's not like you look at Frank Thomas and you're like, no,

I watched like Mike Tyson throw some punches in like a little like video display. And I'm like, that dude is in his fifties and like he's jacked. And he's like, Frank Thomas doesn't look like that. Frank Thomas looks like smooth. And Thomas looks like,

he looks like he wasn't like abusing his body after the sports. Right. Frank Thomas looks like he works't abusing his body after the sports more than anything. Frank Thomas looks like he works out three days a week and only his upper body. Okay? He certainly doesn't look like he's been cut out of granite by eugenics. Frank Thomas looks like

someone who at meals with his wife is like, she's like, don't have another piece of bread because the meal is coming. she's like, you've had, don't have another piece of bread. Cause the meal is coming. He's like, I can back up. New Jennings. New Jennings says,

and these people are freaking out. And then the guy, and then he says to the guy and she'll enjoy it too. And my son watched that. And my son was like, he's 11. He's like, why?

And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know why she'll enjoy it. I really don't know. She's going to enjoy it. It tastes good. It tastes like Kool-Aid.

Oh, I was just reading up. Phil Collins on Fallon said that the meaning was he was going through a divorce. Oh, that's what he says. So he saw someone else watch someone drowning. Drowning and you could not lend a hand. Yeah, right. Okay. I mean i mean look it's all metaphors you know like i guess in that sense you can use that to explain okay you want should we really break it down yes yes how how is him going through a divorce how is that watching watching another man watch someone else drown like if he's the guy going through it who's he

watching drown who's he watching watch another person drown he's self yeah like or it's like really passive-aggressive like he's taking shots at his ex-wife it's like you saw me just drowning there you didn't fucking help me that's right that's it i was the one drowning or maybe just like calling his ex-wife a really bad friend being like yeah man you really could have helped your friend out there she was going through something just because it's a divorce song it's very petty yeah it's like it's the metaphor i am the friend i am also dry drowning i'm also drowning right exactly i wonder okay now was it that he caught them cheating maybe because if you said well if you told me you were drowning i would not lend a hand I wonder, okay, now, was it that he caught them cheating?

Maybe. Because if you said, well, if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand. I've seen your face before, my friend, but I don't know if you know who I am. Well, I was there, and I saw what you did. I saw it with my own two eyes, so you can wipe it off that grin. I know where you've been. It's all been a pack of lies.

Yeah, we hit that drum solo together. Those are my favorite lyrics of the song, by the way. That's right. It actually comes later on. It's no stranger to you. Well, you know what, Miles? It was fine. Good point, Miles.

People are going to let us go. Hey, you got to respect that fill. Yeah. Yeah. That drum fill and fill. There you go. Hey, you got to respect that fill. Yeah. Yeah. That drum fill and fill. There you go. Double fill. Double fill. We are thrilled

to have with us, coming from Minneapolis, the rapper, former Daily Zeitgeist guest at our Minneapolis live show and at our Minneapolis hotel room record, POS. What's going on, record pos what's going on man guys it is really good to see you zoom with you um yeah man it's great to see you uh obviously been thinking about

you a lot in the past couple days uh and just wanted to kind of have you on and hear you know what what things look like from your perspective right now in minneapolis well i'll say like this it's super sad and it's i mean it's crazy it is a pandemic and people are rioting and it's i am i mean i am too afraid to die to jump into a pandemic and get close with people for the most part. Anyway, I had a kidney transplant a few years back, so I'm not, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm suppressed. I can't, I can't risk it, but I would, I would, I would be out there right now, even in a pandemic, if it wasn't like that, it's scary.

And it's sad. And I woke up and saw the video before i even had the crust out of my eyes and yeah it's been emotional it was yeah it's been emotional for days i didn't even i didn't realize what i was seeing until it was like halfway over and then i like sat up in bed and just you know cried all day man this is this is not even a big city like yeah i could ride a bike to where it happened in a half hour you know drive there in five minutes like yeah you can i mean all that every city is experiencing the same thing to a certain extent because whether it's la uh there are people demonstrating shutting the 101 down in new orleans ever just, there are people demonstrating, shutting the 101 down in New Orleans, just everywhere.

There are people just because... It's been pressured up. Yeah. And every, you know, with every George Zimmerman that gets off and, you know, Eric Garner type death, another sort of pebble is put on the scales of our backs in terms of the emotional trauma we deal with as as black americans uh and have to continually witness the cycle of here's the pattern we get killed there

are no consequences that signals to others we are it's open season and the frustrations you are seeing spill out into the streets is what you know that's that's that's what real that's what pain looks like that's what feeling powerless looks like it may look like they're oh look how powerful they're setting things down no no that is a product of feeling powerless and that is the only recourse you have to feel heard because the words don't work anymore it's powerlessness it's hurt and it's rage man it's rare you know it's rage and it nothing changes nothing i don't know every time something like this happens which is all the fucking time people fight and people want to get something done to change something or to make like actual structural changes but it seems

like every city just doubles down in minneapolis they are proposing not proposing but they are going for an eight million dollar budget increase for the minneapolis police department um similar thing in la yeah there's what did you say miles was like three billion dollars being sunk into and it feels like the expectation is because there's a pandemic going on that these sort of things can be passed through without anybody really noticing it. Right. Yeah, rather than like the things that matter, which are, you know, like subsidized housing, affordable housing. Helping the unhoused.

That's really the problem in this city because it's not the crime. Yeah, they're just hiring more people to reinforce the status quo. It's just, yeah. Yeah, and that's it feels like on top of all of that uh with trump it's so easy to blame everything on trump but in in real life like all these people who have had these bullshit agendas for years and years and years all of a sudden not only do they have like an open door with nobody paying attention but they have somebody kind of on top of every system from the state level up who is there like yeah yeah it's floodgates time man do your thing do

your thing just waving all the nonsense through it is really hard it is really frustrating and yeah like i said i would be out there too what's it like you know because you have a like a son who's 20 yeah uh and and he he was out there in a mask he's out there every night he's he's my kid so he's been to protests when he was on my shoulders you know now he's out there on his own knowing how to do it and knowing where to be and i'm scared man i'm scared it's it's a pandemic you can't be like hey i know you're already but keep that distance too but yeah there's no what other choice do we have you know like we haven't like we're death is on the doorstep either way man and they're not just they're they're protesting at the precinct and they're protesting at the that officer's house yeah the murderer's

house the murderer's house that the they wouldn't deliver food to him last night and they're just yeah they're chanting they're chanting what's his name george like outside the chauvin or whatever his name is yeah and there's is. He's been involved with four shootings or deaths already. I have no idea how he's still a cop. The thing that struck me the most in that video is him leaning on this man's

neck with his fucking hands in his pocket and the most casual look on his face. It's unbelievable. And with the other cops just standing there too, just casually on his face. Yeah. You know, it's unbelievable. Yeah. And with the other cops just standing there too,

just like casually observing him. It's just, yeah. Yeah, I read that he had 18 prior complaints against him before this.

Yeah. And no one did anything. Yeah, nobody does anything. Just slap on the wrist. Yeah. Sorry. It's hard to not just yell and get emotional oh and i think and

the thing that we have to also keep our eye on is that these these systems are preserved by our legislators and that's why it's so important that we elect people that aren't going to cape for these people amy klobuchar declined to ever prosecute even this officer this exact officer who killed him who killed george floyd she had the opportunity to prosecute him and multiple police officers for excessive force and did not and this is because we have this system in place that we have to you know the police are able to support to reinforce our predatory white supremacist capitalist system. And that's what they are there for. That's who they're there to protect is fucking target.

Yeah. Shops and target. They got great stuff, whatever, but like, man, I don't care. I don't care.

I don't care. You target go up like that. It's, it's more important. At this point, nobody expects reforms. Nobody believes anybody when they say they're going to change it. Everybody just wants the whole thing abolished. Strike the whole thing down.

Start over. You know? Yeah. And, of course, we don't get there until this happens on the biggest scale forever. I don't know, man. Yeah. No, I hear you. It's hard to articulate anything right now because articulate anything yeah man it's hard to feel anything past

just rage and hopeless you know and this is down the street there's drone shots that look like a fucking war zone dude yeah yeah yeah are you pretty much staying home as of right now just because of the quarantining and everything? Yeah, I have been just in my spot. I think, I mean, because of being sick and having a compromised immune system and not necessarily knowing what to trust, I started quarantining maybe a week and a half before they said you gotta start and i don't really plan on until september i got at least there's real treatment for it not only real treatment but like real believable factual evidence that people know what the fuck is going on yeah the life they stopped forcing people to stay inside right as we got the worst of it for us

we are at we're seeing our peaks right now right as they're going outside for summer and protesting so like nothing that anybody says about this being safe or things are open means anything to me because i'll die like right people are i'm not i'm not guaranteeing i'll die i guess but i'm saying like so many people in our general age group aren't as worried as they should be because it came out as like a thing old people get right yeah but that's not the case it's not the case man it's yeah there's not enough known man so yeah i'm camped out and i understand why people want to go protest and i really probably would be doing the same thing but i feel like at this point there's got to be i don't know man where's the

old anonymous at yeah yeah. Yeah, exactly. What's the next step here? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Steph, so much love to you and the city of Minneapolis. Yeah, man. We're all feeling it, man. Yeah.

I appreciate it. We all appreciate it here, speaking for the city. But it's America, man. It's everywhere. You know? It won't be two weeks before this happens somewhere else yeah exactly and it's there's not much to say about it i don't know i appreciate you guys you guys checking in and i appreciate you guys for having a funny ass show that also manages to cover all the shit that is important thank you for taking a second yeah

thanks for doing people like you, man. Stay safe. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk to you about a myth. This summer,

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Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Scott, what is a myth? What something uh people think is true you know to be false uh this is a music thing and a kind of a studio thing for me but um the myth that most rock people are familiar with is that dylan bob d played at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965, famously plugging in and playing electric kind of a pivot point in popular music.

The myth is that the crowd was beside themselves upset about this folky that they loved going electric and booed him and were outraged and famously uh folky pete seeger was backstage trying to cut the the microphone cables with an axe okay none so. Sounds a little cartoonish. Yeah. To be actual history. Now, there are parts of that that there's different versions of that that have gone around.

Most people don't believe that, but people do believe that the audience went crazy about it. And not the case. I was reading Al Cooper's memoir memoir it's called backstage passes and backstabbing bastards al cooper is famously the guy who played uh organ on like a rolling stone kind of talked his way into it and then you know he had this incredible career where he produced skinnered and blood sweat and tears and all these bands through the 70s and into the 80s.

He was there. He was playing in Dylan's band, and he's like, no, that's not the case. People had been seeing Dylan play electric. It wasn't the first time he picked up an electric guitar. Everybody knew he was doing this, and they were very polite, and everything was fine. And Pete Seeger was not trying to cut the mic cables. So that is a big myth among the music community.

Yeah. What about the, what about the Royal Albert Hall performance? Because, so that's one that I had on, I'm big Dylan head. And I have on good authority. No,

I have the bootleg of it. And people are, people are booing kind of, and like, somebody's like Judas, but it's like not clear. I don't know. It could,

it could just be Bob Dylan being very dramatic and picking out the one person, uh, being the Michael Jordan of, of rock music, just being like, and that was all I needed. That's all I needed.

Wait. So wait, what though was the Royal Albert after after the newport show i think it was so like it was out there that people like touring right it was 65 or maybe it was like 66 weird i like uh i don't know reading about that whole like division also just like watching documentaries about dylan where like everything he says, people are like, ah,

he's so funny and charming, like really like puts a polite, like NPR, New York intellectual society into perspective for me. Like now, uh, I just feel like it like puts puts that whole kind of scene into perspective.

Right. Yeah. And again, it's like you say, he does half the concert acoustic. Right. And they're perfectly happy, again, knowing full well that he's going to play Allegra. The new style.

They're not like, what is going on? There's a band here yeah these songs these songs were released like a rolling stone was out you know and wait at these performances they perform other songs they've also written as well yeah so the second set the band comes out and they play and he's and he's definitely antagonizing them a bit because they're right they're kind of paying lip service to the idea that they should be upset. And they're having fun.

They're like, oh, and they start clapping to kind of drown him out for a minute. And the guy does shout Judas. And it's so fantastic. The energy in it is so good. Yeah, it's fun. The band is on fire.

I mean, everyone should know, fans don't turn on the artists they love because they plugged a guitar into an amp. You know what I mean? Kanye West is out here as a white supremacist, and people are like, I love everything you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love it.

But have you heard early registration? Yeah, exactly. Late registration. Yeah, I mean, college dropout. And it took me a while, too. Even when he had that one moment on the Yeezus tour, the Pablo tour, he was talking about Trump. And people were like, what?

People were booing him that time because they were like, get this man out of here. But even then, it took me a second to be like, huh? Is that? All right. It takes it. You don't immediately arrive to booing immediately unless they are saying something like, have some trash political take, but it still takes a while.

It does. People are willing to forgive a lot from their favorite lists. Yeah, absolutely. Especially when you go to a show too, when you know that they have a new album out that you don't like and you're just praying, you're like, please prioritize the good earlier stuff. I don't like this new experimental shit you're doing. And then it comes out and you're just praying you're like please prioritize like the good earlier stuff like i don't like this new experimental shit you're doing and then it comes out and you're still like

well i love them either way it's not my favorite and maybe it's about me and it's about them expressing themselves and that's what i'm paying right yeah and you know something to that yeah you give them the benefit of the doubt to a point yeah right yeah exactly and then at the end of the day you know you you march with your dollars you know if you don't want to go to the next show exactly right yeah i wanted to talk about the george floyd video another murder that would have gone completely unpunished unremarked upon probably if the people who were watching it didn't have cameras on and if the police didn't feel like just so

invincible that they could just slowly just unaccountable just strangle someone to death like over the course of eight minutes like on the street with people watching and they were fired and that like they

need to be in jail like yesterday they need to be in jail two days ago they need to be in jail it seems like a new level but i i don't know that it is i think it might just be more of the same shit that we've, we just keep seeing. Um, and I can't, I can't imagine what the feelings are of, of people who know him, people, you know, African American people in this country,

like people who have, you know, children out there who, you know, when they see this, they're this person, this is something that everybody is in danger of happening to them if you live in America. Doesn't matter. It can happen in the middle of the street in broad daylight while people look on. Yeah. I'm just at a point where

I'm tired of begging white people to stop killing us or thinking we are dangerous. I've had to do versions of this every time unarmed black people are killed, where I try and advocate for evolving your point of view or perspective on what a black person is or how they behave, how we look at the world, what our intents are outside of just honestly living like anybody else. There's no secret to it. We're not, our houses are not different. Our parents are not different. Our upbringings are not different. We still, there's, we are human beings. And, you know, when black people call out racism, unfortunately supremacy in this country and the point of view that black bodies are a threat and are disposable.

And we can only advocate for our own communities to a certain point until it plateaus. And the reason we advocate is because we're trying to send a message to the dominant cultures, And the reason we advocate is because we're trying to send a message to the dominant cultures, the dominant forces in our society, the hegemonic classes in our society to be allies, to understand, to see our humanity and say, hello. We can only say, please stop killing us so much until you have to begin to look at your own world and say, well, I have to also do some cleaning up around here too, because it's on one level. It's not just, and I don't mean this just for black people. I mean this for any group. There are plenty of groups in this country where we need the help of everybody to make sure we are not killed or mistreated or have our autonomy and sense of agency completely disregarded. I know that people, it's hard to hold people accountable, especially loved ones, friends, or family,

because you can alienate yourself by being like, by calling racism out. But there's really no other way. You have to begin signaling to your fellow people, no matter what community you're in, whether that's me talking to Asian people I know, black people I know who might say some weird shit about another group like kill that shit that's racist knock that shit off yeah it's you don't have to flip tables but you need to you need to at least be there to say

up sorry alert that's fucking not right and i'm telling you i know that's not right and i don't like that you said that i'm not gonna fight you about it but that's what it is because yeah we are sticking up for ourselves as best as we can and we are still dying so now we need you to actually help you know stick up for our lives and stop listening to our music stop taking our culture if you aren't going to stand and be counted when our lives are at stake i i don't know how else to say this it's so i don't i don't want to see people smoking blunts and white girls or they're listening to fucking little uzi vert in their instagram stories and the next thing you know the the best they can muster up as a response to this racism stuff is

like lol that lady lost her job from the central park thing can you believe it that's not i'm not that doesn't that doesn't heal our wounds i'd rather see a video of you coming for your friend who's calling some shit ghetto or saying oh look at those thugs over call that shit out that that makes me feel like you are actually trying to to do something and actually advocate and i uh again i know it's uncomfortable but by doing nothing we will continue to bear the brunt of unfettered white supremacy um so you can continue to be comfortable around your racist peers and i just want to say please please everybody out here is a human being black white latino asian arab it's all we're all just trying to fucking live man and the the whole deck is already stacked against us.

Everybody, everybody. So why are we wasting our energy looking at each other? Like we don't give a fuck about each other. It's going to eat you up inside. You need to open. We all need to just open ourselves up to really sticking up for our fellow human being, no matter what. Whether that, if you're a black person and you hear somebody making some stupid comment about an Asian person and the fucking coronavirus, shut that shit down. If you want to fucking say something about a Hispanic person going to their

job, whatever you want to say, some dumb shit, you hear somebody say something, or you even have a thought and you think, Oh, I made a joke in my head. Please bring awareness to that because that's the only way we're going to move forward. We can't continue to do the cycle of, oh my God, you're right, that's bad. And then just let the flame die out because having to walk around and think, fuck man, could somebody just think,

is it okay? Like this crosses my mind all the time. I have to throw my, I pick up my dog shit and I might be near someone's driveway and I want to throw the dog shit away in their their garbage can that's kind of up the driveway not even that far but i have to think is it safe for me to approach to throw dog shit away because i don't know this neighborhood i don't know if someone's looking out their window and is just ready to who looks at me at some certain way it's tiring we can only i think just as an entire race of human beings everybody we can we have to look at each other and just

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to Maren Morris' The Bones and naturally you guys have spent time in an office setting with me and maybe I don't have the most appropriate behavior at any point but I do when songs get stuck in my head it i have to change the lyrics and the lyrics always um are your your parent your someone's

missing yes my lyrics always find themselves back to a person in either my entire family being missing or a person in my family being missing and me being truly just just but they've always been missing for like a long time yeah that's the problem is i've been missing for like years and it's you guys are very strange it's always weird when you you start to do or i know you're about to do that bit and there's like guests or other people who aren't in the fam in the office and you're like but here's the thing miles i don't know if you know this about my family. I go, what, that they've been missing for 15 years? And you're like, yes.

It's gotten me once or twice over the years. And then she'll be like, yeah, they've just been missing and I can't find them. And I'm like, I'm sorry, person. We're trying to make some kind of development deal with podcasts. Like, this is a bit. You'd be like

uh sorry there's actually a dateline episode about it if you want to get caught up on what happened yeah so anyway up our fallon development deal yeah he went straight to elmo it was bad unfortunately my family has been missing for years and i don't know where they are and uh that's kind of i don't know why but that. I don't know why, but that's kind of the gist of where my mind always goes. I love that that's your brand. My family's missing. Hi.

In addition to being a super producer, you're also one of my favorite podcast hosts in the world. You host Ethnically Ambiguous, which we've talked about before on this show. You also host a recap show called Deckheads. Yes.

Deckheads. It's about the Below Deck TV series notoriously hated and loved by the fans. They cannot decide if they like me and Nick Turner's critiques on it, but there's something funny about the reactions we get. I have not watched deckheads and i still love below deck or sorry i have not watched below deck but i still love deckheads yeah i mean we get a lot of people who are like oh my god thank you for making this show watchable and then other people being like i just quit the show and now i'm just listening to you

guys and then other people being like i have have some bones to pick with your opinions on these characters. But they're always like, it's just a fun ride because you don't know what you're going to get. And people really love these characters. Like, to a point where you're like. Talk about parasocial relationships. Yeah. I was like, well, you know, that guy's not a great guy.

But I guess if you had to see him on a TV show over and over and over again, I mean. You'd be slowly worn down. Yeah, like there's a character that I started out being like, I don't think so. You are not a good person. And now I'm like, leave him alone. So I guess I understand where they're coming from. Name names. Captain Lee.

I struggled with Captain Lee for a long time. Oh, really? Yeah. Didn't you see him in that tell-all from the last season, the way he was being real dismissive when the one black crew member was like, I didn't feel comfortable the way things were being handled on this ship. That is every episode. They're like, do you feel like your chief stew handled that sexual harassment situation good?

And he's like, honestly, you know, I think she did. If it had escalated further, she would have let me know. And I would have turned the boat around. And you're like, look, you can tell by my body. I used to be a weightlifter in my 20s. There's just a lot of there's a lot of blind spots. It's funny because it's like a lot of people know Below Deck, but they don't talk about Below Deck. Like it's something you've come across and maybe people don't.

I don't talk about Below Deck, but I've seen damn near every episode. So I think for anybody who's seen the Bravo Buffet of Trash, you've sampled the deck. Got your finger on the pulse. It's a fun show, though. I really like boats and i really like sailing and all that and i just love like water sports so it's fun to just watch people and i feel like i've also really learned a lot about like being like a deckhand like i'm always like oh yeah you're gonna you're gonna have to give some slack on that line are you gonna hit the

so anyway i gotta do an overrated now yeah anyway. I got to do an overrated now? Yeah, do an overrated. You got to do an overrated, Jason. All right. So part of me wants to say Peloton, but I don't have it, so I can't really from experience. But it does feel like a cult, and it does feel like it's overrated,

and the fact that you have to pay all the time for that. The thing, though, that I... Why? It's the type of thing you can give your wife who's already in good shape a complex and say, here, get it. Right. Yeah, get in shape. It'll be the first thing you can give your wife who's already in good shape a complex and say, here, get in shape.

It'll be the first thing that she's ever tried on her own. It'll make her grow as a human. It's the best thing you ever tried on your own that I bought for you. I can't believe I'm really doing it, you guys. Maybe that is it. I was going to say, when your before picture looks you're when you're before picture looks like an after picture peloton yeah

yeah oh jesus so my other one was gonna be like and maybe this is showing my age but i have always thought and i tried to get into his music a little bit but but Skrillex, DJ Skrillex, I don't know what the fuck you call him, but Dubstep and Skrillex and that stuff. And maybe that's me being, I thought for a long time, I'm like, hey, I'm just an old guy. I don't get it. I'm not into it. But then I was like, you know what?

It's like, honestly, like I love so many different kinds of music. I love so many different kinds of new music that's out there. I love all kinds of music. This music, I think, is super overrated. And I think it falls into the category of we are calling this person a genius just because I think we're supposed to call this person a genius. He's not a genius. He's not.

He's doing something. He's doing something, but, like, it's overrated. He's doing something, this Skrillex. He's doing something over here. He's pushing buttons. He's doing something. He's doing something, but it's overrated. He's doing something, this Skrillex. He's doing something over here. He's pushing buttons. He's pushing buttons. Jay doesn't get it. Dubstep, I think, is really interesting.

A, I love that this is a take from 2011 that we've just got to. Yeah, that's right. Is it time? Can we now? Do we have enough distance that we can now look at it and be like, all right, we were. And also, he looks like Corey Feldman with an interesting haircut. Let's be real.

But I think, you know, with dubstep, like me, I'm also a musician. I love making music, playing music. And when I first heard dubstep and tried to make it, that was when I had respect for them.

Because when you actually look at like a, like any kind of synthesizer software or whatever, and to do all those, it's a lot of work. But yeah, to a certain point. So he doesn't understand it. Yeah, but also to a certain point, though, I feel like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Now I'm trying to think of like, well, maybe there is some dubstep

we could get you into. Maybe Skrillex was the wrong venture in there. Maybe like a Rusko remix of a song you already know. There we go. So that's it. I mean, I'll say one more thing that I think is overrated, just because I want to have my own thing, is that when we were in Madison, Wisconsin in the winter

doing shows there at a great club, the Comedy Club on State, everybody was like, you got to go to the indoor farmer's market. They're like, you got it. There's this indoor farmer's market. You got to go to the indoor farm. Have you been to everybody? Have you been to the indoor farmer's market? It's this indoor farmer's market. You got to go to the indoor farmer's market. Everybody, have you been to the indoor farmer's market? It's like nothing you've ever seen before. You've never seen anything like indoor farmer's market.

It's in a convention center. We're like an indoor farmer's market. So basically a supermarket. Yeah, right. They get their stuff from farms. Whole foods, like every whole foods we've ever been to in our lives. So that's the thing we've never seen before.

All right. That was overrated. That was definitely overrated. That was definitely overrated. But yeah, I think, but I will say, I don't think you're missing anything by putting the Skrillex albums to bed, you know? Yeah. Thank you. I mean, yeah.

And by the way, that wasn't, that wasn't a knock on all of dubstep. True. True. But somewhat, but people who were fans people who are like nine years past it though i don't care people who are big i love it people i had to get it off my chest shaquille o'neal is a huge dubstep fan if you see him now he's like he loves going to these dubstep shows and even djs now it's so funny the hippest person we know. Yeah, of course. And he's like, his whole thing. Yeah, the idea of Jay's going to now take on,

who's he going to take on at this point? He's like, the Tommy Gachi egg people. You're going down, bitches. You're going down, Bandai. No, but I kind of agree that, like, you know, disco had such a profound backlash, like, after it was popular but i feel like maybe a dubstep didn't fully have that moment it just we just sort of like moved away from it

more like well that was that was weird but yeah uh maybe it is kind of like that disco yeah i mean until they're like at baseball games they're smashing up Skrillex records in front of people. By the way, we met the guy who did that. We met the guy who did that. Yeah, that promotion. By the way, that was one of the only times. So it happened in Chicago, right? Right.

It happened in between. It's Dahl. Dave Dahl was his name. Steve Dahl was the guy's name. And it was between a doubleheader. It was one of the only times that they canceled the second game that wasn't due to weather and it wasn't doing anything else it was that and the other time they canceled was like in the 60s i think they had like five cent beer night in

cleveland and like everyone got so crazy they're like we got to cancel this right right right for people to know yeah there was like a group ritual smashing of disco records because of like everyone's like this is not work we can't let rock go for this disco was it at kaminsky right it was in yeah it was a kaminsky the old kaminsky park that's my next take disco overrated right you heard it right here you just dropped the mic, folks. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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