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Episode Date: June 7, 2020

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She is the hilarious, the talented Dulce Sloan! Hello, friend. I feel like you were flirting with me and I accept it. She is the hilarious, the talented Dulce Sloan! Hello friend, I feel like you were flirting with me and I accept it. Even though in these troubling times I don't know if I should accept affection from a white man. But you know, tomato, tomato, you gotta work in the community. Hello everyone. Yeah, hi. How is everyone doing? Oh, you know.

You know, it's bad. bad it's bad it's bad i'm doing bad i think this is the the time that we're allowed to say when someone's like hey how's it going you're allowed to be like bad and not be uh you know one of the neurotic considered neurotic yeah this is the time where black people have got their very worried white friends just being like are you good i don't are you are you good yeah it's miles i don't know who your people are people i'm black and japanese i'm black and japanese and you know i'm getting those texts and the what the funny thing is i scroll up the last fucking thing they text me they were asking me for something that's what it but that's what it's like that's

the thing and that's the thing i want people to like that's the thing i'm like i i understand thank you like if that helps you feel better about your privilege to check on me and that feels like a way to you know handle that fine but my god man black people have had plenty of time to to carve up and analyze what's been going on the would the murder of david mcatee that man who owns the barbecue shop in louisville particularly is heartbreaking my grandfather who you know his family moved from the south to chic. He came from Chicago out to LA looking for work because of the war effort, a tax paying black man who served his country, entrepreneur who had to do everything on his own. He owned, he, my grandfather used to own

a barbecue restaurant, Slossett and Overhill in LA. And, and then, and, and people knew in the neighborhood, he was good with people because he, he saw him making barbecue as a way to feed his community. It wasn't for profit. Those margins are razor thin. That's not to go ball out. He did it because that's a way that, that's an expression of our love for each other too, is through us providing for each other and cooking for each other. And I know during the riots in 92, he was worried about his place but things were okay thank god but i just think about this other man a grandfather a black man in the street who police seem to know his restaurant too is just murdered i don't you know

yeah i don't know what i don't know it was like because i was like why are you shooting because the story i got was somebody was shooting at the police. They shot back and he wasn't. It was an innocent bystander situation. So it wasn't him. Like he wasn't because he wasn't protesting. It was like, yeah, he wasn't protesting. It was an innocent bystander situation.

And I'm always like straight bullets always seem to catch good people. They never seem to catch the awful dude. Yeah, they're like, whoa, Hitler got hit by a stray bullet? Right. But then, but I guess if you are the awful dude, the bullet's not stray. Like, I don't understand what happens. Like if you're shooting at the cops and you get shot, you're just like,

all right, you earned that the right way. But if you're, you know, just like that, the stray bullet has always been a weird, a weird kind of thing where it's just like, Oh,

you're never going to catch a dude who was a, it was, you know, a horrible person. a dude who was a it was you know a horrible person you know it was you know kicking puppies and hurting kids and all this other stuff like that like stray bullets go around him yeah like i don't know if the evil protects you like i don't know what the philosophy of the stray bullet is but i can be thankful that my white friends who have hit me up to ask if i'm all right it's not the are you all right well what can i do it's not those two because some people either get the it's kind of like as a comic when you book something like when i booked like when I got Daily Show there was two types there's there's three types of people that hit you up oh shit there's the oh

my god congratulations and that's the end of the sentence and then there's um oh congratulations how did you book that how'd you book that and then there's just the people that are just like oh hey well how'd you book this okay cool you just said congratulations we're well, how'd you book this? Okay, cool. You just said congratulations. We're friends. Congratulations on how you booked this. We're friends, but you're an ass. If it's just how did you book this, I'm going to block you on social media.

Right. And so it's the same thing. It's how are you? Done. How are you? What can I do? Done. What can I do?

First of all, quit asking us. Yeah. Right. done what can i do first of all quit asking us yeah right because we've been peacefully protesting but then it's because i'm very much over the well if they would have done it this listen listen there is plenty of footage we've all seen eyes on the prize we all went to high school we all found out what happened i'm really to the point where i'm just like i'm gonna need white people to stop talking about martin luther king yes because what you're doing is using martin luther king to silence us so you're bringing on the he wouldn't want the riots he wouldn't want the riots and then it's like oh this is

what we're going to do fine and then you send them the clip of martin luther king doing a speech saying that riots are the language of the unheard so now you don't have a rebuttal because it was well martin luther i was like no no no let's not guess what we he would have thought let me show you an actual clip of what the man said because i don't know if you saw on Twitter where people were white-splaining to Bernice King. Oh, my God, yeah. About what her father would have done. And she was like, my father peacefully protested and y'all assassinated him. So you've already told us what happens when we peacefully protest.

We did sit-ins at lunch counters and we were attacked. We peacefully protested across the bridge. That was a massacre. we peacefully protested across the bridge that was a massacre we had a whole town set up in tulsa oklahoma because you wouldn't leave us alone toward you burn the city down may 31st to june 1st that was 99 years ago so all of the times where we have been we've done we've gone by your rules fine you don't want us to live near you we'll make our own town all these negroes are successful burn it down okay you want us to peacefully protest we did all of this let's attack them with dogs and fire hoses so we are trying to follow the rule every it's you're given you're not you're giving us the guidelines of what we have to do for you acknowledge us as human beings

and acknowledge our rights and it's still still, we didn't do enough. That's the thing, because I think, right, they're trying to say, well, these are the rules to getting what you want. But see, we played by the rules, and we're not getting what, it's not even what we want. It's what we're owed. It's what we deserve as human beings.

But when the people who make the rules will always be able to change the rules. Yeah, then fuck the game then. We'll play a different one. So my thing is now, stop asking us. You want to know what you can do for me as a black person to change things? Call your dad. Call your dad.

Call your uncle. Call your auntie. Call all of those people that are the reason that you don't go home for Thanksgiving. Call your auntie. Call all of those people that are the reason that you don't go home for Thanksgiving. Because all of those people are the ones saying all lives matter and more care about a target on fire than a police man's knee on his neck. Stop asking us. We didn't start this problem.

Because how can an abuser look at the victim and turn to the victim and say, tell me how to stop abusing you? How does that make sense? Black people have spent our whole lives. We've been taught generation after generation after generation how to navigate through white folks to survive. And this is the time for white people to teach white people how to navigate through us. Yeah. We played by the rules and you keep changing them right so i'm going to then the rule maker need to talk to the rule maker because obviously you're not listening to us because you can watch all these videos and not

care what did he do wrong he existed there was anything he couldn't do nothing right so i'm not playing this game no more because the only reason buses got desegregated is because the montgomery bus system was about to go bankrupt they didn't change their minds about us they didn't make us people it was 18 months and it was running out of money some man needed to send his child to college it was either either he can't go to school or these negroes get to say whatever they want on this bus wasn't about us all these changes haven't been about us you messed their money up my mama told me as a kid you want to change stuff mess up d white man money and stuff will change

it's not about us not about acknowledging the humanity in us that's not necessary that's that's not that's not the point you burnt hot target target don't stand to care. Why you care? Brandy, what's something you think is underrated? Black man, men in black. I'm going to make that my answer from earlier. Great. Yeah. And then my myth is that Antifa has a leader.

There was a great tweet. There are so many people where I saw a couple of versions of the construction. People were like, I am the president of Antifa. And then other people did the great pivot of like, now hopefully like, yes, now the CIA, please give me anti-tank missiles and cash. Right. Yeah. Did you see that?

There was like screenshotted tweet going around yesterday from an account called Antifa underscore US that was like, tonight's the night, comrades with a capital C. Tonight's the night, comrades. Tonight's the night, comrades.

Tonight we say, quote, fuck the city, and we move into the residential areas. The white hoods and we take what's ours. Cop bots are out of fucking control. They're like, yeah, cop bots are. It's like the joke account that have been circulating for years and years. It's like it's so fucking out of touch and they're ridiculous.

There were several people at my time when I had to be like, yo, do you not get that this is fake? If you don't get this as fake, you're the stupidest person. That's like being like, uh, Hey Twitter, we're going to bomb Pearl Harbor tomorrow. I think like it's not. Yeah. And the, uh, I mean, it's all like people were very easily able to prove so the ruse was oh and they had their

account deleted that's why you can't find it on Twitter because this is a threatening post and somebody went and looked in the Wayback Machine and that account was created I think June 1st. Yeah.

Yeah, it's just... But the disinformation, the way that this is going to be politicized is real and something that's going to be constantly in need of fighting back against. Yeah. As well as j jammers being like, there's all of a sudden like blackouts of coverage where there's protests.

There's like journalists feeds being taken down and suddenly jamming around in areas where no one else is having issues. Like it's just, I mean, they're shooting journalists with tear gas and protesters. They're, they're permanently disabling people. Yeah.

Permanently disabling people for protesting. This is, I mean, what else? Yeah. For certain people, we knew this was going on. We knew, like, how bad it is. And then, like, when it all happens at once, and you look at just what the response is the response from protests about police brutality and white supremacy being like the overarching ethos of

how we police in this country a protest to bring people's awareness to that was answered with just basically like oh you want arrests oh i got them right here for you. 4,400 of you. Yeah. Because you want, what, one, two? No one's been arrested in Breonna Taylor's murder. And we're still waiting for the other three officers. Amongst countless many previous to this. Yeah. Yeah. Thousands of protesters have been arrested and three cops haven't been.

I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got one in custody. For third degree murder too, which is fucking ridiculous. I mean, this is the thing, you know, like white supremacy is a virus, right? And like any virus, it's a living organism that we've seen over the last week, what living organisms do when they are pushed to fight back for their survival.

You see what happens, what human beings do, right? And that happens with virus. It has to protect itself. It knows that there are stakes. White supremacy is a virus in that sense. And just like I'm saying, like anything, if you bring awareness to it, if you bring awareness to white supremacy, that's how that shit dies. Because because objectively you can't put that shit out in the open you can't watch a guy get his neck knelt on and die and say yeah yeah yeah that's that's okay because there luckily there's polling that was something like you know luckily only 10 percent of this country is completely out of their minds and was like whatever happened there was like the police did the right thing but like well over over 85% of the people were like, this is not

enough. Like what the fuck was that? This is absurd. So again, we have that awareness and it, it, it makes white supremacy vulnerable, but it strikes back and it strikes back in the form of how our media is covering it. And it strikes back in the form of how our media is covering it and it strikes back in the form of how our police are treating the people who are bringing awareness to this virus and that's how these expressions of self self-sustaining you know survival mechanisms kick in and they kick in in these other ways but we're like oh yeah it's they're looting wow oh yeah who's are there p are there outside agitators what's going on hmm because when you're talking about that you're not talking about white supremacy when you're talking about cap and eric

reed who are not in the league anymore you're not talking about white supremacy and that's what a lot of these things offer us are distractions from this larger discussion and how how these manifestations of white supremacy are all around us yeah i mean the degree to which the police were openly antagonistic towards protests uh against white supremacy was uh because of my privilege i think you know was even a surprise to me uh coming into this i was i, you know, was even a surprise to me coming into this. I was, I, you know, it was just like, I couldn't, I couldn't stop watching the videos of them. Yeah. You know, harming people without any provocation.

And the media coverage of, I mean, from my understanding understanding the trajectory of almost any major protest was very similar in that it starts peaceful the cops show up and tag start antagonizing people and then and then they continue to antagonize people and blame the protesters and what i have not seen reflected in really any major media is that narrative at all even though if you trace any citizen who attends these protests in every single city the story is the same there's a long afternoon of peaceful protesting and then the cops show up and start antagonizing people like it's i it's i mean again it's like i feel naive for being shocked at it, but it's just that reflection is nowhere. Yeah.

Well, it just goes to show how much the police unions have bought our politicians in so many ways too. The fucking strongest union in the country. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Whoa, that's weird. Every other union, it's like, let's fucking eviscerate it.

And then, hey, the police, what do you need? What do you need? Some tanks? What do you need? i mean well that's weird every other union it's like let's fucking eviscerate it and then hey the police what do you need what do you need some tanks what do you need fucking 150 ton whatever these things are with hoses hosing people down i mean it's even in santa monica right peaceful protest in santa monica blocks away there were there were looters right but the police 100 were focused on the peaceful protest because i think on a certain level you need all that other chaos to basically say this is why we need more tanks man this is why we need bigger budgets man you see what happens like yeah you know what we kill we kill an unarmed person and uh next thing you know people want to do all that's why we need that's

why we need all this stuff it really did seem like i mean that seemed to be in addition to the media just being fully focused on on the looting uh and not the peaceful protests the the police were the opposite and it was it was very very uh kind of eerie to watch you know no there were no police like as the looting was happening the police were not coming they They were not paying attention. I think you're right. It seems like there's a lot of people letting things happen or causing things to happen so they can escalate their argument and blame the other side.

Everybody who I spoke to who was protesting had the same reaction that it was the a peaceful protest and the police uh showed up and started and numerous things can and numerous things can be true at the same time there can be people that are so mad they're burning shit down there can also be people that see an opportunity to blend in with a crowd so they can just fuck shit up for X, Y, Z reason and then whatever. There are also people who I saw pushing black people in the back into police to try and create, like to provoke the police using black bodies. That can also be true. There can also be white supremacists infiltrating this to try and instigate things. There can also be bad faith actors who are doing all kinds of other weird uh coordinated graffiti and van there are so many things that

can be true however the the biggest the biggest thing that still needs to take front and center stage is the white white supremacy and over policing because we got those two examples if you weren't on board for white supremacy maybe if you were a white person and you saw that old fucking man get shoved over in salt lake city by a riot cop what the fuck for yeah that was like yeah i was like whoa i didn't think they did that to old white people that was kind of a trip for me to see because it was one thing when they're ramming a squad car through a group of of people who are just trying to peacefully block the road. But it's another when you just see some dude who's aggro for no reason shoving an old man down. It's like, exactly, because look at the kinds of people that we are employing in these positions and what these institutions are used for. They're institutions used to uphold our capitalist,

white supremacist system of governance.'s all it is they are here to protect private property that's all they are there for and that also means private property means oh sorry we're someone someone uh sold your building you live in we're gonna up the rent can't afford it you're evicted gonna gentrify it now because caruso wants to turn it into Grove 3.0. That's another version of this. And these whole things, man, are about disrupting these systems of oppression. And again, they're living organisms, so they strike back. We want justice for Tony McDade and Breonna Taylor and George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery and Eric Garner and Trayvon Martin.

And you know what? You could start reading a list that you thought it was fucking Aria's list times 7 billion. Okay. And we can go down this list and there's still not been justice because we have not disrupted this white supremacist form of policing and governance. The whole thing is like, look at all these systems that are so well-funded. The military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, our militarized police forces, they get the best funding because they do the best job of keeping people oppressed

and keeping people from actually getting in touch with their power and improving their lives. You know who doesn't get money? Education, health services, community support services. Those are non-discriminatory support systems that help people get out of spirals of poverty and what have you, violence or anything. But there's a reason why, because that threatens to upend, it threatens to disrupt these forms, these systems of oppression.

So when you see people go out there and go we're so fucking pissed at this this is an up this is a this is a rebellion this is an uprising pushing back against what you define as legal because all we see is injustice and you may use these terms legal and law and code whatever section fuck you but what we see are people being murdered and there are no consequences and so if but if the police have to answer that that means they have to say well then do we need to dismantle these this police department do we need to do a review of all these officers and make sure we don't yes exactly yeah and that's too disruptive because right now

there's there's already a steady flow of money going in. Like LA's budget, damn near $3 billion are going to the police. Wow, there's nothing for our unhoused people. That's why. They're getting a fucking raise today. Because invest in the thing that is, it's all a down payment on the fight against poor people. That's all these things are. Down payment on prisons.

We have to put these people somewhere when they start fucking trying to be like, give us our fair share. It's really frustrating. I mean, on a city level, so many cities have been completely fucking fumbling, handling these protests. I have yet to see a city that has done it remotely well. And it's not, I feel like the tone of the media coverage

is that the cities are so overwhelmed and surprised that they don't know how to handle it. But that's just absolutely not true. They have demonstrated with their money and their influence that they are with the cops and that the fact that they are acting in favor of the cops isn't a mistake and it's not out of fear it's an intentional it's it's what's been going on and on and on and i don't know i mean we've all been calling our city counselors but it's it's not that they

are like i'm not sure which way to go they know which way they're gonna go yeah you're not sure what didn't you see them like in other cities just shooting at fellow members of the media the national guard has been given permission to kill to use lethal force like they know which way they're going yeah yeah exactly i mean if you blasio's daughter got the fucking cops. Oh please so sorry cops. Fuck off. Yeah. I mean multiple people pointed out like when you look at the

what it looks like when you know in quotes something happens and the police aren't ready for it versus something happens and the doctors aren't ready for it. The police show up in tanks and looking like it's you know World War 3

from like the future and when the pandemic happens and the healthcare industry isn't ready for it the doctors show up and have to reuse their paper masks over and over again yeah

I saw the fucking mech suits from Pacific Rim pull up with show up and have to reuse their paper masks over and over again yeah um use some of these cities i saw the fucking mech suits from pacific rim pull up with a red light yeah yeah it was crazy and then meanwhile the our medical workers and people who are essential care workers people who work in meat processing facilities look like they're cosplaying fucking trash people in ppe not even the real thing all right, let's take a quick break. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

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but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Really briefly, I want to talk about a guy david grossman who i was on a bastards episode that dropped yesterday that i recommend people check out for more texture on this but basically i you know this fully informed every thought i had about this uprising and the police response over the weekend, just watching the police throwing people to the ground,

driving their cars into crowds of protesters, firing rubber bullets, like as if, you know, they are at war with everyone around them. So David Grossman is a fake expert in a field he made up called Killology. Are you fucking serious?

He named it Killology and it's a course for police with a primary focus on training the aversion to murder out of them and he hypes up the idea that police are more in danger now than they ever have been which

is the opposite of the truth he claims that his whole like mode of his whole mission is based on this idea from the u.s military which like the thesis of full metal jacket is that the u.s military trains the humanity out of people or military trains the humanity out of people or started training the humanity out of people ahead of Vietnam, and that's why that was like a heart of darkness situation. And he looked at that and was like, yeah, let's do that with cops, essentially. There was this anecdote that is dubious,

that World War II soldiers didn't fire, like they fired at each other 10 percent of the time because they had a natural aversion to murder and then prior to the vietnam war the marines like started creating killing machines and they started actually killing the the enemy more frequently and yeah he even if it's not a true anecdote he looks at that and uses that as an example of like what we need to change about the police force nope so he goes around he tells these cops about like shows them a traffic stop where a cop gets shot and is like heard dying horribly on on the thing and then he's like this person should have shot the motorist before they

had a chance to be shot like they gave him too many chances you might have heard this guy's name or about his course because the cop who shot philando castile who you can see in the video his like you know pink flushed face on camera having the like what the fuck did i just do moment like screaming i told you not to move he was a recent graduate of grossman's program and this program has been used in the minneapolis area like it's not just about this dude this is a minor like a small pinhole into like an entire like cancer that is devouring our country. And it's just devastating. I don't know. Killology.

It's what it is. Horrifying. We have to completely rethink. We've been having to rethink so many things. And, you know, my heart really goes out to activists who have been screaming all of these things at the top of their lungs for decades. And now seems like maybe a moment

where we might be able to take a look at it. But like I said, what we're dealing with right now is one of the biggest problems in American society. And the solution is not going to be quick or easy. It's going to take... We're rolling our sleeves up. I think that's why when this episode started, I'm like, let's just fucking go.

Yeah. Because I think we, the real work really, really has to start here. And if we're not thinking of how our police forces work, they, they're, you know,

the serve and protect motto. Again, I think everybody has had some form of the joke of being like, you know, like they work for us but how many how many bosses can you kill can you kill your boss can you shoot your boss you beat your boss throw racial slurs at your boss harass your boss uh because that relationship has completely been inverted and it's not you are here to you are here to just ensure my safety from from people who are doing something illegal, not for you to like enforce some other code of laws that you've created to generate tax revenue from being poor.

maybe one of the most striking things about people's reaction to the uprising over the weekend was how hard people ride for private property in america the the degree to which people are like that that's what they're worried about there's there's police you know firing tear gas at people who are protesting peacefully over here and they're moving their camera over to show somebody like taking a pair of sneakers out of a store like that's that's, I think it speaks to just how the foundation of consumerism under that kind of runs through America. Like they, the idea of that disintegrating, if burning the Grove to the fucking ground is going to save one life, like what the fuck are we waiting for? Just by getting attention to,

drawn to white supremacy. The police guarding empty stores, buildings, more carefully than they're guarding the lives of anyone. Anybody. But it's all a metaphor, right? Of how capitalism works. Those stores are filled with our labor, with the wealth we created. So they have to put their attack dogs in front of it when people try and reclaim it in this parallel example.

And even just the the absolute um like when you just think of how all of this you know consumer relationships you have you know with private property right that's like the like the white person's originary like first toy they ever got right whether that's taking the the private property of indigenous people or the artifacts from cultures they've conquered that's the that's like the first relationship that gets you on the high of white supremacy is i can take shit and that becomes mine now and you try try and fucking come get it try and fucking come get it that's that's like the exact that's that same mentality being echoed back now and it's really it's really bizarre to look at when you think of all that shit like manifest destiny and

all that of like well i spoke to the manager of of earth god and they said it was our destiny to fucking kick y'all the fuck out and us taking this shit and do whatever the fuck we want to. When we see those things played out just with these relationships, I'm not confused or I'm not surprised, but it's also

just so when the irony is just sort of fed back and you're looking at it visually like that, it's like, oh my gosh. Stephanie Pratt. I don't normally look to Stephanie Pratt from the hills for my awareness of...

For my cues on social situations. But this, just the irony and the... So she tweeted, shoot the looters using this tragedy as their excuse to rob and burn all of our towns

down and she also tweeted something else about like won't you please think about Neiman Marcus type thing fuck her but it's like also what does she mean when she says our we know exactly what she means she was caught shoplifting $1,300 worth of clothes

from a department store like 14 years ago. But she thinks people should be punished with death for... Okay, get in line because I think you were looting before them. So if we're going to do this in order... Yeah, you're first. You first, bitch. Oh, never mind. I didn't mean like that okay that's a similar story with the with whatever was going on with jake paul over the weekend where he was found like live streaming looting a mall in

arizona it just like it's just so fucking counterproductive and expected with who this person is that it just makes your head spin well i mean i'm not surprised because you will always see the appropriation of black expressions of emotion happening by white people you know like and in this unfortunate instance this is anger uh and then you saw some kids running around who just took that to be like let's just fucking do whatever the fuck we want it wasn't nothing anything to do with it but again and i don't even want to give air to all that because all this is about our white supremacist capitalist system of oppression that is expressing it in terms of trying to fire rounds at the media or people who are like on their own property and

just get inside and then shooting people. There are people shooting. Look at the... They're not here to protect us. They're there to get off on some weird inverted power fantasy they have from childhood. And they happen to somehow be in the job that has been advertised to them for decades where this is the one place you can beat the shit out of vulnerable people. And even the black cop won't even stop you yeah right and i feel bad for these other cops because i also saw videos of police officers who were emotional that they were there staring down fellow human beings who

they knew were right and being upset with them and them having to reconcile all that and process all that but it's like anything well again it's like you can fucking quit like yeah and i get it it's like but and i understand though because there's the same reason anyone gets into something you go into it idealistically and you can think like i'm gonna change i would never let that shit happen around me yeah i'll never let i i got into politics i'll never be on some bullshit like payroll or some fucking earth destroyer. Whoops! You are. And then you gotta have a gut check and then think, okay, can you actually change it or not? Because you also see what the examples

are of the police officers that do stand up for themselves. It doesn't end well. It certainly doesn't end with them having any kind of pension. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. There was a woman police officer who stopped one of her colleagues from beating up a suspect who's in handcuffs and this was this was like a year ago but she she was fired

lost her pension uh and brought up on charges of like tampering with evidence or some shit yeah there's been a lot of really good podcast reporting actually on just cops who decide to try and do right and reform their uh divisions and it's just all-out war on them again it's just and this is but and this is also how we bring this into the light see we don't know this so most people just look at it as like look at that thing just fucking rotten on the inside out and unfortunately but sadly there are people who understand that it's bad and are trying to do right but we have to this is also time to bring all that shit out so who are those people trying to do right please tell your story out loud because i think a lot of people now will back you. More people, at least the momentum of public opinion,

would be on the side of someone who is trying to do away with dirty cops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And a better understanding of what has been attempted and how was it defeated and having a better understanding of exactly how these movements are internally crushed and we never even find out. Like, what are the methods that have been tried? Why they failed what can we do differently yeah i keep thinking about

christopher dorner this whole weekend i keep thinking back on him um for those that don't know he was a a black cop that was you know called out racism his department got fired and then he went on a cops killing spree and then he was burned to death in a cabin in Big Bear. Yeah, it's about the system. It's not about the individuals. You know, it's about the masses. And his manifesto is like... It's wild. He tried to lay out as much as everything is possible.

These are the incidents I reported. This is what happened to me. This is the person who oversaw that hearing. They are now elevated to this position. It's, yeah. me this is the person who oversaw that hearing this is they are now elevated to this position this uh it's yeah because again these cysts they're they're living organisms so if you appear as something as a threat to its existence it is going to try and extinguish you because that's just how things work so if if whether that's a an individual officer or the kind of coverage of what is happening in this country, the coverage is an antidote or is a response of white supremacy to obscure what is like, you know, why aren't they talking to people? Because if they were, people would be like,

oh my God, this seems like a broad coalition of people from all kinds of walks of life who, on top of supporting these angry black people in this country, are also upset about this and are here to support them and also feel that this is an injustice. But rather, it's like, the smart and final is, I think, smoke is coming from the, yes, okay, and they're running out with Iris Cherry Cola, I believe. Oh, you hate to see it. That's not what the news is. But by doing that, that's just so disingenuous. It's just such a disingenuous move, cynical move from the media, but we shouldn't expect anything else because they all have to work together

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podcasts. And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time and we're back i'm just gonna get into this other piece i was gonna try and talk about but when i look on like right wing twitter and i look at a lot of comments of like uh conservatives sort of defending like why they don't need to change right now the common themes i keep seeing are i don't have to feel bad for these people because i didn't personally own slaves i think that's one of the prevailing things i see also see these people want to live like that and they just want to mooch off the system um and then the other thing then they bolster that by saying i know this because i seen it with my own eyes or I work with these people. And these are fantastic arguments as to

why you shouldn't examine your own behavior. Absolutely. A grade reasons to be like, man, I'm not going to do any kind of close self-examination after that. But I think the real burden for these people is to avoid having to realize that what they think is wrong and may have actually been wrong this whole time. All of these are self-preservation mechanisms because if you say, wait, I have to feel bad for these people, even though I didn't own slaves. Wait, these people don't want to live like that and they don't want to mooch off the system. But that's what my dad told me. And my dad was a good guy. I think I'm not racist normally, but that's what I was told. So if I'm, so then the mental

path goes, so if I'm wrong about this race stuff, what does that mean? I'm evil. And then, cause that's the logical thing. And then boom, self-preservation has to kick in and says, of course I'm not evil. Fuck what these people are talking about. Because if what they say is true, that means I'm bad and I'm not bad, you know? And that's not, and I think that's the thing that people need to begin reframing to others when they're trying to communicate and saying, take it like, it's okay that you, I mean, it's not okay that you thought that, but the, if, if we're going to do something, you have to realize that those thoughts don't serve you and they don't reflect reality. And in fact, they're holding you back and they're holding other people back. That's all it is.

And that's just how our minds work. We always have to find a way to preserve our egos and make sure that we're not doing a bad thing. But then if that sense of self is threatened, then we just start doubling down on that bad behavior because the other option is real introspection. So I'm not going to do that. So I'm going to double down to the point that I will just kill my fellow human being who's innocent because I've doubled down on this thinking so much. Every time someone tells me it's not right, I'm going to double down on that now. And I'm going to tell you, it's actually everything I think is right. And it's a hard place to dig yourself out of, but we're not after people's guilt. So when people are like, well, I don't have to feel bad for these people. I'm not. Look, we've experienced what people

feeling bad does. It only leads to lame diversity hires and small pittances into these diversity funds or whatever. it's not the guilt it's it's about changing your heart and your mind that is what the real that's where the juice is and all this and that's again you want to be able to say good for you if you look back and go fuck bro yikes i was thinking that shit yikes whoo i'm glad i'm glad i can say yikes to that holy shit i'm fucking i'm a new i'm like whoa i'm me 3.0 4.0 allow yourself to make a mistake it's not that you're evil because you have to understand like all of this shit has been mainlined into our brains through the media and everything it's amazing like if if you're you know uh reasonable enough to believe that like

the depictions of uh you know violence in film or something or like how men are supposed to behave in film can contribute to fucking skewed ideas of masculinity then you should damn well be able to hop on the train that white supremacy can also infiltrate your mind in very subtle ways too because you might be like oh shit i didn't think i looked at my body because because that movie or whatever this person or this poster you don't think white supremacy is entering your mind in the same way so take the time to just fucking deconstruct that shit but just take the time all you gotta do is be aware we're not after the guilt we're after the awareness so then you can fucking white supremacy ends when people actually be like white oh i know what it is and i don't like it not just like i know it exists oh i i'm i'm i'm experiencing it

i'm purple oh oh oh just awareness see everybody's too afraid of being wrong is the thing i don't want to have to admit i was wrong i don't have to admit that i have a leg up i don't want to have to admit that there are people who don't get the same opportunities. So there's a little bit of an asterisk on some of my achievements. People don't want to say like my past was. But it's like how many people are ashamed at shitting in a diaper at one point in your life? We used to do that before you knew any better. Now you know better.

Now you do better hopefully but like it's just it's so mind-boggling how people tie their whole sense of self into i was wrong at this one time and it's so much easier for them to just justify their actions even like retroactively justify which is hella embarrassing for them to like go ahead and make excuses for something when you could easily do what i said and apologize and move on from it right i used to have a red yankees fitted hat like fred durst okay but i've come back all right and i'm not if i'm not afraid to admit that in fact i'm proud that i saw the light and drank the hot dog flavored water and ate the chocolate starfish. But that's inspiring.

That's inspiring because you could be up here right now in a puka shell necklace and you're not doing that. You've moved on. Right. Exactly. You look at that and be like, whoa. But I think the thing is people should have a soft touch because I see people screaming at each other about it.

And a lot of people, I'm telling you, you can open someone's mind a lot easier if you are so calm it's so off-putting yeah because they're used to being like you're wrong that just if you if you come at somebody aggressive they have to be defensive that's just how it is that's just how we work you know you have your fist cocked i'm gonna put my dukes up and we're scrapping but if you come up with your hands to your side you're like hey hey how you doing how you doing hey man so i want to talk to you about this stuff that's going on with this white supremacy thing like i just want i just want you know i'm just trying to be aware of it it's really interesting how i've realized how things have informed how that's happened to me um and i just was i'm just hoping that you can also do that and they go i don't want

i don't care those people are wrong just leave that yeah come come back again and just do it like that because eventually it's gonna it'll be so weird where they're like damn like they're always so calm talking to you like that and i'm always out here screaming it's like why am i screaming but again that also takes self-awareness but soft touch also works finally maggie what's a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false that reality shows are bad that they're bad entertainment that's false like they're so necessary i watch so many more reality shows now i have a home girl that we will watch we'll get on zoom and watch reality shows now. I have a homegirl that we will watch. We'll get on Zoom and watch reality shows together.

Because it's like, I have to be able to watch someone make a bad decision in their life. Absolutely. While I'm at home ordering stuff and just letting it get left in front of my door. What are you watching right now? Oh, I'm watching... What's sustaining you uh married at first sight oh yes i'm into uh 90 day fiance i'm into um i started up with too hot to

handle but that show is not too hot it's so lame i'm like none of y'all are that hot on this show anyway yeah just i mean no and like the whole premise of the show is dumb it's like you can't not married at first sight is it's it becomes like hit or miss sometimes but when those seasons are hidden i'm like why did anyone ever agree to this like 90 day fiance i understand that's why like it. I get a little international flavor, travel, flair, so much culture clashing and other bullshit. But when you watch Married at First Sight and you're like, oh my God, this dude is gaslighting her constantly.

And no one's even actually describing that. Even the experts, when I'm like, this is not actually, okay, all right, Mar is not actually okay all right they all need their licenses taken away from them someone needs to yank dr pepper's license they need to take pastor calvin's church away from him pastor yeah it is such a bad idea but like the australian one have you seen that one no so i just saw they just started putting the Aussie version of it up even funnier because I, it's, it could take me even less out of like, sometimes I don't like the American versions of shows,

but Aussie married at first sight. I haven't been disappointed in the first episode. I feel like the Aussie version and the UK version of reality shows. It's like somebody who's like dabbling in drugs and then goes like hard to the hard street drugs oh right right right just say hit me man give it to me it's like wait you're mixing the pills with what it's like those little the little anti-drug things we watched in the 90s where someone took one hit of weed and then like all of a sudden it's circling eyes yeah exactly next thing you know you're watching geordie shore um have you seen geordie i love this statement that uh the reality tv is necessary that that is

uh culturally necessary it should just be it should just be called, watch these idiots TV. It's not reality because it's not. I don't, and I think, I mean, unfortunately there are a lot of people who will watch it and be like, oh, cool, man, that place looks awesome. But I think really the thing that people, like we're all watching it for

is just that satisfaction to know there is someone out there making way worse decisions than you are and you can and you can then elevate yourself pedally because we are so small as we watch we go and i will stand upon their shoulders to feel mighty also like we might be in quarantine for like what one two years like yeah no one is getting engaged in this one to two years and society like crams it down a woman's throat that you got to be married by you know 30 40 or whatever right watching these shows i do not have any desire to go out and get married like it looks shitty like it does not look

fine and like anytime and like anyone who has marriage fever or is like i gotta do this i gotta make this happen go sit your ass in front of a married at first sight and see what happens to them. Go Google what they're up to now and see whether or not you want to hit your wagon to somebody just because, you know, you're 35. Yeah, exactly. Oh, it's like I just felt like, you know, so many dead in relationships. I was like, this is it. You know, that's why I'm just like, I'm just embracing this like experiment.

Like this, whenever you see those people start off that married at first sight thing, you're like, this is all bad. Cut to them crying in a tropical resort. They're like, he just said he's not attracted to me. It's crazy. And you're like, I don't know what you... All right, I'm going to just laugh because I need this right now. I'm at home like, you're so stupid, bitch.

And I'm eating cheetah. I'm eating Funyuns for dinner. You're like spitting the crumbs onto the screen. I'm so much smarter than you! Learn to see a red flag! Learn to see a red flag! Just Funyun.

Chunks of Funyun flying at you. Your laptop? You're like, my return key doesn't work anymore. That is Funyuns I got on the keyboard. All right. Well, I'm glad we had this conversation. I was looking forward to talking with you guys all weekend, and it definitely helps me to hear you guys' voices and perspectives.

I do want to say, right, I spent this entire weekend, I watched Unicorn Riot till my eyes were dry. I rage scrolled through Twitter. I have probably 7,000 tweets and drafts that I should just throw away my phone because I was so angry. And a lot of people are angry and you should be angry and don't let anybody tell you how to feel. I do want to say this though.

Be careful with what you're ingesting during this time because keep that little flame alive. But if you fan it too much right now, it'll die out and you will burn out and you will not have the energy within you to keep this fight going. If you need to take a breath, please take a fucking breath. Nobody's asking you for your take on social media or anything else like that. I think you really need to just take this second

to realize that there's a lot of shit we're up against, whether that's the military police state and white supremacy, all these other things, they're all on this, they're all on the same tree and it's, we're living in the shade of it. And we're trying to get into the sunlight and it's going to take energy to get into that sunlight though. So if don't, don't burn yourself out. I understand it feels good to be like, I'm, but it feels good to be like, yes, I am responding to everything I'm seeing. Yes, this is making me angry. So I do know I'm, yes, if you've established that, great. But take a second because there is real, real work that has to be done. And we are really going to have to show up in real big ways. Innocent people are being killed. Innocent

people are being maimed for nothing. Whether that's the people who are having interactions with the police, or those are people who are standing in solidarity with those victims, or independent journalists trying to hold people accountable. We have to keep this energy up. So don't burn out now. Take a second. Take a second. You're not even in the blocks yet. You're not even in the blocks. You haven't even stretched. you just found out that you made the team that's what happened you have not trained for this you just looked on the thing okay did i'm yes you're on the team and guess what we have track meets are the rest of our damn lives so get ready but you need to also be be aware that when you're on this team it's not ending when we get the next new whatever

oh my can you believe trump did nope nope nope no no no no no because then all that shit you're talking means nothing everybody everybody has to commit to that that's the only way you can feel good about this and not hang your head and say everything is so fucked up why am i even trying this is bullshit because we need to take a second because we really do need to find a way for us to all come together to organize and actually properly do this to make change because i told you if it's just a couple of us we get picked off we can all find a way to get on the same page whatever it is there is a there is going to be a way to do that. And you will impress yourself with your ability to do that. But that only happens if you have that shit going till the end of your days. So don't burn it out now.

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