The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 130 (Best of 6/15/20-6/19/20)

Episode Date: June 21, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer,
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Starting point is 00:02:06 get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. It's the end of a long ban.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We are thrilled to have him back he is the co-host of one of my uh favorite podcasts the flagrant ones on patreon he is mr carl tart i'm back bottle clink most of your new listeners don't know who i am oh they do if they listen to podcasts come on carl yeah oh baby oh baby don't be too modest now i've missed you fellas so much i've missed you too man carl how have you been man it's been a year and a half it's been a year and a half i've been good uh you know, eating vegetables, trying to drink some water. Oh. What kind of vegetables? You know, broccoli, steaming the broccoli, putting like three centimeters of water in a big-ass pot and throwing the broccoli in there.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I like my broccoli soft, which means not nutritious. Yeah. Wait, is, oh, you're just cooking all the nutrients out of it? Yeah, cooking all the nutrients out of it, but damn, it's good. I mean, because that's like the first broccoli I was able to stomach was over a microwave frozen broccoli. Yeah. And sometimes I love just mushy broccoli. I like cheddar cheese with little pieces of broccoli in it. That's the type of broccoli that I prefer.
Starting point is 00:04:01 You're more in the cheese. Yeah, you're in the cheese zone. Is that like broccoli cheese soup when they make that? Yeah, exactly. I'll always be up for a bowl of broccoli cheese soup for some reason. It's probably the worst decision you can make, but there are times when I see it on a menu and I'm like, I think I'm going to try it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I got to get into broccoli cheese soup. Broccoli cheese soup is something that I've never, it's something about eating cheese with a spoon that has never quite meshed for me. And I love nachos. I love cheese sauce. But for some reason, when it's like eating it with a spoon, it's like, give me a chip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 No, that's called dignity. That's the thing that is preventing you from wanting to eat melted cheese with a spoon. Because usually when I order it at Subway, they always say, oh, you're serious? And I'm like, yes, actually, sorry. From us? From us?
Starting point is 00:04:50 You want that from us? This one behind me? Yeah. Yeah. And you wanted a foot-long tuna sub? I'm like, yes. All right. They're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh, Miles. I'm going to call. Okay. You might need an intervention. Carl, you've also been eating a lot of fast food on uh doughboys well another one of our uh favorite podcasts what what's the what's the best thing you've eaten uh in your time as a as a guest on doughboys with the doughboys the best thing i had uh well i mean you knowaffle House is my favorite restaurant in America. And I did Waffle House with those cats.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I definitely had some. Culver's was good. That was in Milwaukee. I enjoyed that. Detroit. Detroit, I still got a bone to pick with Detroit because I went and I put cheese on my Coney dog because I didn't grow up. The only Coney's I had growing up was Sonic. And it's a chili cheese
Starting point is 00:05:45 coney so and also i like when i eat something with chili i want cheese with it this is the cheese natural uh cheese cast and i and when i like i put cheese on it and the audience like started to boo me when i said that i'm like hey man all y'all could kiss my cheesy ass wait so like you because you mentioned that you, so it's a violation to put cheese on a Coney? Apparently so. When I've had Coney's Cincinnati-style chili, like Skyline or Gold Star, cheese is on there,
Starting point is 00:06:17 and it didn't seem like a transgression, but I guess it's all regional. It's probably them trying to separate themselves from that. But you know how in Chicago they get mad at you if you put ketchup on your hot dog or something like that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Man, I'm going to put ketchup on my hot dog. I'm going to the South Side and telling everybody. I ain't scared, homie.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I'm from South Central LA. Alex, finally, what's a myth? Man, what's something people just, you know, just drop some truth on people. Open their minds right now. What's a myth, man? What's something people just, you know, just drop some truth on people. Open their minds right now. What's a myth? I think I, and this is what I want to like yell at everyone I see. Like, I think there's a myth that we are past the beginning of coronavirus stuff. Like the people are like, we did the beginning.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Okay. And now we can start to go back out. Like the very early part happened. And like people like, we went to this protest on saturday and then as we were like leaving to go home there were like the let's hit the bars crowds showing up with no masks i was pretty upsetting really didn't like it as a social practice like like i think there's kind of three stages like there's the beginning where cases are going up and we don't have good systems and then there's the middle where cases are back down and we have good systems.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And then there's like a later date when we'll have a cure vaccine or something. And we're in the beginning still. Like people need to really be careful. They need to stay home if they can. And I think people also too, like there, I was reading a few threads from medical professionals, some write-ups and things just about like the idea of what it means to recover from COVID-19. And there are so many,
Starting point is 00:07:47 yes, there is the version where it's just a flu. There are people also getting lung transplants and all these other severe, severe medical issues. once I, you know, like early on when I was reading about like when people were like, they don't tell you what it's like when you're even have to be on a
Starting point is 00:08:04 ventilator, like what that means for you after. When i was like uh yes it's it was easier to feel strong when i was like it could be a flu but when you sort of look at what the risks are it's it's really frightening it's also so discouraging to see people like truly like give up on social distancing ostensibly out of boredom like it just seems like even even people that were still like very on board and very like no we have to stick to this even a month ago are now just like uh i think we're done like it just it's like because it's not like dominant in the conversation people are just like okay so this is fine it's like no it's not fine i think opening opening
Starting point is 00:08:46 reopening has you know eliminated it has brought fomo back because before it was easy to be like i'm not going out ain't shit open who gives a fuck i'm inside we have to do this but the second you start hearing wait you start seeing people partying over here or going out to eat over there some people who i guess are purely just driven by like this need to socialize or be out or consume or be served or whatever. Like all that stuff just goes straight out the window. And I wonder how it also shows like in L.A. too, right? Because I can only speak for what I see in this city and state, but our cases are not going down. And we're going up. Yeah. I mean, yeah. All state, but our cases are not going down. Ours are going up still.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, all that to mean they are going up. They're going up significantly still. It's like, yeah. And we're reopening, and I feel like every person, this just shows how, I don't know, blindly, I don't know, this is what I'm trying to figure out, and I posit this to this crew here, of is it a mixture of people just blindly believing that the state knows what's best
Starting point is 00:09:52 and that's why they're going out because they're like well why would they why would they open stuff if we couldn't go out or is it i'm trying to figure out what's motivating these people because i i'm sure there is a group of people who are just like, well, why would they open if it wasn't safe? But I think I think it's exactly what you said, Miles. And then I think it's also and I think it's especially Americans. We just have this mentality that like problems don't last. Like you hear about a problem and then if you kind of stop hearing about the problem, it's probably over.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And so it's fine, even though like a problem can just keep going, you know, or like, like I, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a scientist, but like there was news I read when this started and it said X things were happening with cases. And I was like, time to stay home. And then I read the news now and it's like the same stories. I think I should keep staying home. Like that's all I know. I'm just a guy who has Twitter, but that's what I see. Some of it does feel like social media brain of just like, if people aren't seeing it in their feeds constantly, they're just like, oh, I guess, I guess that's done, which is applies to many situations right now.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Um, but it's also, I don't know. Some of it is just, it seems like just straight up willful arrogance where like i had a family friend back in massachusetts still like throw her daughter a graduation party and her reasoning was that like well we understand social distancing at this point like we we like the vibe was very like we get it it'll be safe and it's like if you're bringing people into your home it's not safe like and there were old people there it's just yeah i think the assumption of like okay i know how to socially distance and and feeling like you you know no one knows how to deal with this correctly so so going in with that mentality is just like bound to be a disaster, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. Well, and even to your point, Alex, like America has this habit of entering a period of self-examination or awareness around something. And there's definitely a threshold for pain that, you know, the collective consciousness of America is willing to sort of endure. And once that we get past that, it's like, okay, do we really have to keep talking about this anymore? Because I think for coronavirus, it was, you know, people just sort of got to the point where now their discomfort around having to deal with the truth is just too much. And it's just a rejection of reality, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And I think just even to what you're saying about ignoring problems that persist, whether that's systemic racism, homophobia, transphobia, genocide of indigenous people, whatever it is, people are willing to look at it to a point and then when it becomes too uncomfortable, it's like, okay, can we really just please stop? Can we stop actually? Like, I get it, I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Just to your point even too, Jamie, about this person saying, yeah, we get it, we get it. It's not like, no, no, no. It's not that we just, the point was for you to agree that social distancing is needed and there's coronavirus. Go a step further and understand what the risks are to you and other people, much in the same way with people coming, having this, you know, aha moment with racism in the country. Go a step further now and understand what that is experientially, not just sort of like,
Starting point is 00:13:04 right, I get it. I get it. Yeah. Right. These things aren't happening for you to have you get it. step further now and understand what that is experientially not just sort of like right i get it i get it yeah right these things aren't happening for you to have you get it like right it's that that's not how events work that's not how the world works and it just yeah yeah and i think but i guess and even i guess to go deeper when you look at even how we're educated right we're even in our own history we're shown like this thing of like then there was this problem and that went away and then there was this thing and then that went away and then there was hitler and then uh nazis went away and then there was this and it's too it completely robs people of the ability to to parse through the nuances of you know how any given event unfolds and then how that that event echoes into eternity if there
Starting point is 00:13:46 isn't a reckoning with it yeah and i think a tendency i've been trying to like reflect on this more recently of just like how it's very it seems very common in the way where it taught history especially it's like there was a gigantic systemic problem and it was solved by one or two people. And then the problem hasn't existed since. Because my mom's a second grade teacher and I've been talking to her about like, well, what do you teach your kids? And like, you know, what broad lies are still being taught to kids and it's still like in a lot of schools it's basically taught that like like martin luther king solved racism basically single-handedly and now you know great and now it's gone and a real textbook should say martin luther king was assassinated when he began to connect the
Starting point is 00:14:38 dots for people between capitalism and oppression i think shockingly the books do not reflect that that would be a burn your eyebrows off level of truth coming out of that textbook but that's but even then it's like not even hot because that's just the grim reality of it but we it's like well don't say that it's like don't say what the truth because it's so dark imagine teaching capitalism as a concept at all as a part of history like never came up in a class that i took in high school no well but that's what the schools are we're also taught like through this process of academia to become workers also like that's the that's our training first and then we enter the workforce where we've been fully indoctrinated and inoculated and know how to be
Starting point is 00:15:22 like yep you do this and then you get that and that's how it works i do this i do my homework i get a grade i do my work i get a paycheck it's all man there's a lot and then i pop up this yeah and then i prop up the system by telling people to depend on the man for bread when in fact they could make it themselves i'm a stooge guys don't listen to me this has been a long call out for Alex. Yeah. We all watched at least some of 365 Days, which is the number one movie on Netflix. Real quick before we get to that, did you guys watch the Chappelle special that dropped, I think, at the end of last week?
Starting point is 00:15:59 I saw the first 15 minutes of it. I watched it and it was great. I watched it and it was, it was great. I watched it last night. I've never seen him that passionate. I've never seen him that like, man, he's just,
Starting point is 00:16:17 I wanted to include him in my underrated because I feel like there's still a contingency of people who don't consider him the GOAT. And I know GOAT conversations are redundant and comedy is subjective. But that guy is at least of the past 30 years. I'll give him the crown. If you want to give Eddie the crown, Raw came out in 1987. That's 33 years. I'm rocking with Chappelle over the go to the past 33 years.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And that's with Chris and other people. 100%. And I'm giving him my crown of all. I think he's the best one. I think with Evolution, because I am a big believer in Evolution, and George Soros. And I, you know, LeBron's my guy. LeBron's my goat.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You were loving that moment when he was giving LeBron his roses. Yeah. Man, I was on the couch crying. Crying and jacking off at the same time. Yeah. There's something about Dave Chappelle, you know, like he has, you know, a lot of people choose to focus on things that he says that are controversial. But there's a lot like he says in his special. It's like he's been speaking about this for a long time.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And I think the beauty of his work is that it's almost like his shows and stuff had just laid the groundwork for people to wake up because people are familiar with the humor of like sort of nihilistic attitudes black people have in terms of existing in this country or the nihilism we feel about racism and when that ends that it's always become a way to just make jokes that make some people uncomfortable other people really laugh um and then to watch him sort of really he's just becoming such a like a i don't know the the way he was talking about everything uh that was just going beyond his ability to be a comedian i think it was just impressive just i think seeing a lot of people evolve in that way is kind of interesting right now. He's just such a smart dude, man.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I wish I had the brain capacity that he does. Over the quarantine, I used him as an example because I watched his Kennedy Center Honors. Was that what that was? And just talking about how much he reads and stuff like that. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to start reading. I'm going to start reading some of these books that he talks about and stuff like that and i'm still dumb as hell and it was just like but he's he's such a smart dude and the way like the way he
Starting point is 00:18:53 does stand-up comedy i feel like the way it is supposed to be where you take something and you have a take on it that makes everybody think and like he's just hands down, man. He's the GOAT. He's the living legend, man. And him going on that rant about LeBron, like, I was just like, oh, my gosh, this is my world's colliding. You're getting it tatted now, that C logo? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gets on the bank. I always talk about that, though, the fact that LeBron at 17 was on the cover of SI. The fact that I always bring up is that Nike and Adidas had billboards in his hometown that were aimed only at him. They were trying to recruit him. Imagine having advertisements like growing up in the truman show except bigger because like everybody is openly like creating the world around your your reality uh and then
Starting point is 00:19:55 he became the best player of all time it's like what the how does anybody do that and how and then people like hated on him for so long they still do yeah they do it took him to come to the lakers for me to fully open up which i i still i can't stand y'all dog i cannot stand y'all asses bro y'all we're spoiled we're spoiled shitty people i'm sorry that's what laker fans are we're spoiled shitty shitty people but not even the sense of not like about lebron before i didn't i didn't i didn't dislike him i was just more like i was like this man is the best player in the league but there just wasn't i i something didn't resonate with me aside from objectively being able to be like this guy is a just phenomenal basketball player
Starting point is 00:20:42 there's like no way to doubt that i was never in doubt about that it was just you know it's just your own bullshit as a fan where you're like yeah no like the greats are like you know i'm a 90s kid so for a long for a long time i held on to jordan uh and it took me a while where i was like man fuck kobe and as even as a laker fan i was just more loyal to jordan uh even though and i didn't like kobe when he first started because he didn't pass the ball and i was like you'rebe when he first started because he didn't pass the ball and i was like you're fucking our whole team up get the fuck learn something uh and then he he ended up doing his thing but i don't know i think it's just a weird thing too where sometimes you're so blinded by this like one-dimensional shit that like i can't you know and i felt bad
Starting point is 00:21:19 that i was like it took that for me to say like i really I really, really like I really fuck with LeBron James. I'm just being ambivalent. That's one thing about him that I figured out. That's he wants that. He needs that. He needs to be liked by everybody. And he came to the fan base that hated him the most, which pissed me off royally because I was happy to have him in L.A. But I'm just like, bro, you could have carved out.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Imagine the legacy that you could have had if you won a championship with the Clippers. Like, you're still in your city. You're still doing what you want to do. What are you chasing? What are you? Why are you? Why did you have to come to the Lake? Like, what legacy are you chasing coming to the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:21:56 And it's like, oh, it's the name. It's the. Oh, man. Forget all that. Like, and this is this is dumb. But like, you know, listen, Jack wants to move on. He's looking at me like, wrap it up. Wrap it up, B.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No, no, I'm not done. That's not what I'm saying. No, but seriously, I was like, imagine LeBron coming to the Los Angeles Clippers and winning us a championship. And I'm saying that biasly as a Clipper fan, but also as just an NBA fan. It would be extremely impressive. He would have won two champs two like lowly franchises a championship winning cleveland one and winning the clippers one
Starting point is 00:22:31 and he had to come to the lakers like are you trying to one-up kobe are you trying to be be called magic 2.0 you're always going to be in a shadow doing that you're always going to be in a shadow and i think that's why initially for Laker fans, it's like, this team's for people who are going to be down for a few years. You don't put me away about watching him
Starting point is 00:22:56 this season and then they in the quarantine were playing a bunch of classic games and I was watching his second title with the Heat. He's so much better now than he was at what should have been his physical prime.
Starting point is 00:23:12 All the shit he adds to his game is truly incredible. He's just literally a genius. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:21 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Azara, what is a myth? What do you think people think is true that you know is false or vice versa? Okay, this is my big WTF. Why do people keep thinking that racism is supposed to make sense? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Do you know what I mean? Like when you tell somebody that something racist happened to you and they're like, wait, that doesn't make sense. And you're like, why is it supposed to make sense? Yeah. Thinking people are unequal or you're superior than them because of their race is already a flawed premise. So what?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Right. Like, do you understand that if it makes sense to you, that makes you racist? Right. Wow, it really is that simple. Wait, so just because you are Muslim, they thought you were a terrorist? That's racism.
Starting point is 00:28:18 That doesn't make sense. Yeah, it makes sense to me. I can't tell you that. Yeah, right, exactly. And then you're like, wait, what? I can't tell you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, right, yeah. Oh, so they thought you're a terrorist because you're a muslim right yeah i watched the tv show i watched the tv show 9-11 i watched that well then why'd you go there it's like what yeah it's true it really is like i think we don't treat racism like we do like
Starting point is 00:28:40 eating handfuls of your own shit so if you start a conversation off about seeing somebody eating handfuls of their own shit it's never going to be like well that doesn't make sense you'd be like oh man people are still eating handfuls of their own shit huh you think they'll fucking wake up because it's not good you know it's not healthy but okay i guess people eat but yeah it is like this thing where i think because racism has been the foundation and rationalization for so much injustice that to then say that's bad, I think that's what a lot of white people were experiencing too. Well, then, yeah, I guess these statues of slavers should come down.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Right. I guess we keep telling you guys to forget about slavery but then we like literally do have slavery statues everywhere yeah that serves a reminder and i think it's also wild too it's like there are people that are alive right now who have interacted with people that were in bondage you know what i mean like grandparents whose great-grandparents were in bondage like it's not that far removed like they're and i think that's what's very interesting is suddenly like history caught up with the present for many people at the same time on many levels but yeah it's true like to your point it's it's not supposed to that's the point it's racism is
Starting point is 00:30:01 already a flawed ideology and it's it's putrid so there's no don't need it to make sense it's interesting though seeing a lot of white folks who i guess could conveniently ignore racism for so long be stuck in the house and like oh my god ted all that's on tv is racism every channel is racist i guess it was real the whole time. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. And I think that's the other part that's really troubling for a lot of black people and any oppressed group right now who's seeing this, like, people connecting the dots. Because now it's like having to relive it over to be like, yeah, because that's what's, fuck. All right. So here's the deal since now you're listening again like it's just it's it's very uh it's it's a lot but i don't know that's what i'm saying like
Starting point is 00:30:53 is this is is this the room is this a point is this a turning point societally for the beginnings of something not that this exact moment everything will change on a dime but we can point to this year as being something the beginning of something new that's i think so yeah because when the civil rights act was passed it was literally on the heels of so many american cities being on fire and so many protests and now we're in an age where these are the biggest protests that we've had since the protests of the death of martin luther. And I think you are seeing people open up. You're seeing a lot of marginalized people feel comfortable speaking about things because it's like, oh, you want to defund the police?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Okay, also look at the police that lives inside of you that has policed me every single day at my damn job and everywhere I go. And so it's like now we're forcing people to have their own reckoning with their own issues. You know what I mean? Like the Karens, that's what we call them. But those are police. Those are people who are agents of chaos and of black pain and oppression and of oppression of all different races that aren't their own or, you know, marginalized people. So it's like we're not just talking about defunding the police that are state sanctioned. We're talking about, you know, you as a police, like you have to get rid of the police inside of you.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Or this greater idea of whiteness. And I think a lot of people take it on to be something that if you are not white, you don't experience whiteness or participate in it, but it's prevalent at every level. There's internalized white supremacy for black people. There's internalized white supremacy for black people there's internalized white supremacy for asian people there's just straight up white supremacy and i think that's the thing is like it's it's a moment for everybody to basically you know uh purge the whiteness that
Starting point is 00:32:38 exists even in your own thinking uh how you would i i i really i really challenge people to think of like the next time you see someone on the street and you think you are in danger or you have you become suspicious take a second to immediately stop yourself and examine what exactly you're looking at now if clearly if someone's like running at you with a knife that's one thing but if you just see a group of kids on the corner or someone at a like whatever whatever it is, take a second to just be like, whoa, what was that? What was that? Because it's that's the feeling that people act on without actually thinking through. Why am I thinking like this? Why? What is what what is coming up inside of me? I will say that there's this inherent guilt that a lot of, quote unquote, good white people have that also gets in the way of their education
Starting point is 00:33:23 and their learning, which is that like, well, I'm not a racist. So, you know, these aren't things that I necessarily need to work on. But what we're trying to say is, is that we all have internalized racism and there is a tiny evil white man who lives inside of all of us simply because of how we were indoctrinated into this country. Our whole education system is built on lies that slavers and racists told us. Our money has the face of rapists and slavers on it. You know what I mean? It's like it's in all of us. I remember grading papers for my cousin in Brooklyn once, and all of the names were like
Starting point is 00:33:57 Le Cremation and stuff that I couldn't pronounce. And I was like, what are all these ghetto ass names? And my cousin looked at me and he said, everything's made up. So what makes these names less important or less valuable than Sarah and Thomas? And I was like, whoa, who taught me that? And then I was like, oh, the little white man inside of me taught me that. So it's like we all have to deprogram what we've learned. Or even think of where our own last names come from.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I know where mine comes from you know what i mean like that's people didn't even last we didn't have last names who were owned you know what i mean like half of these names are there because that's just the factory you worked at i think this is all part of this moment you know and i think if they're going to take the time like you're saying lacy to sort of look within themselves that's really the work that is gonna have to happen first because if you just go if you just stop it like yeah man the police are wilding out and just end it there yeah it will continue we need more people out there who say no that is bad like and they're over policing and i know why they're over policing these communities
Starting point is 00:35:00 because we've actually left them behind and a lack of material access has led to these conditions. So if we don't do that, we shouldn't be talking about crime. We need to be talking about how we're leaving people behind. Yeah, I don't understand that person, that person who sees this stuff and just goes, wow, that's wild. And it just goes about their day. I think the thing is, right, to really acknowledge how bad racism is on a certain level, people will feel guilty. You know what I mean? Because that's just part of connecting the dots. Yes. But I think the bottom line is part of that process, the point is to not feel guilty.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The guilt is merely you actually just becoming aware of, you know, your relation to whiteness, to how that has benefited you and how that's actually been detrimental to a lot of people the real work is then just saying okay the guilt is natural because you're actually realizing how bad it is now that the real part is then to actually say well now i need to i'm acting differently that's not right it's not we're not asking for people to feel bad we're not asking people to cry on the timeline on behalf of black people. We're asking people to pull up on behalf of black people every day. Like, no matter what. No more videos of y'all being like, I take responsibility.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh my God, that thing. I, a white person, have looked away at so many Negroes. Like, we don't want that. We need you to actually take accountability in your real life, not like get on a video in black and white and stare at a camera and read off of a cue card. And I just want to say one thing specifically,
Starting point is 00:36:34 just to get people's minds working on what we mean by systemic racism and oppression, is that the thinking is the beginning, but the system that is in place is working how it always was supposed to, which was to suppress and to enslave people of color, and it people are going to prisons who then contribute to the republicans agenda because they get to count those bodies those people in prison as people in their population so it's gerrymandering so then they get more influence because the more people they lock
Starting point is 00:37:18 up who are brown and black the more influence they have in the country. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. So that's just one thing. There's so many things. The subjugation of black people and brown people and indigenous people, that will always be the resource that people use to extract wealth from. You know what I mean? In that same way, that's just moving black bodies around so you have a bigger piece of the pie in terms of influence.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Everything is about just, these are not, this is just other ways. Like once in the same, we were talking yesterday about just criminalizing being poor. Because now you've created another industry that just makes money off of cleaning up the failings of capitalism. And it's like, here we go. Loop, loop, loop. And capitalism has never worked without free labor. And I think that we all have learned that when we're sitting in our freaking houses and can't go to work, you know, the free labor or the labor where we pay people the bare minimum to survive is the only way that this capitalist system has ever functioned.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And it doesn't function. Do you think like we have that opportunity to I mean, like you're saying, we're not ready to have that conversation, but it seems like a lot of people are willing to at least acknowledge the pathology of white supremacy in this country. And the idea that black bodies are a threat and disposable as part of this conversation, because that's how police are viewing, uh, these, any marginalized community, especially black and Brown people in this country. Uh But, you know, it's still this thing where it's like if we're talking about the police, we're not actually talking about the greater issue, because really it's it's this idea of how blackness is viewed in this country and what the responsibility is of white America in relation to that.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That, you know, I feel like everybody's trying to be like, yes, we're almost there. We're almost there. But let's really have this. Let's really take this conversation to the next step. Yeah. I think that is the biggest issue. Right. The biggest issue is not because, you know, first of all, we do need to reexamine this notion that we're creating the warrior cop versus the guardian of the community. So our system is designed to create that. Right. versus the guardian of the community. So our system is designed to create that, right? You even look at, there's this amazing book that I think everyone should read called Policing in the 21st Century by Dr. Cedric Alexander, who's a former police chief, and he served on Obama's
Starting point is 00:39:35 commission on policing. And what he talks about is the way in which we've changed in which, how we are policed. But even if you look at the uniform form now versus the uniform 30 or 40 years ago, it's gone from an actual police uniform to a military tactical uniform. And that even in terms of the way we advertise for people who want to join the police force, we're not showing the friendly officer getting the kitten out of the tree. We're showing a militarized commercial of, like, do you want to hunt down the bad guy? Do you want to be this warrior that's chasing and shooting people and throwing grenades at people? And so we're enticing that kind of sentiment. So when you couple that with implicit bias and racism that is in this country, the combination of the two of them,
Starting point is 00:40:20 as we have seen, is deadly. And the notion that people have that racism is something of the bygone past and that people don't think about that should probably pay attention to the news and watch the sentiment of people. But also, we have to be realistic about the timeline, right? So you're thinking about, you know, 1955, 1965, where lynchings were still commonplace. And there are pieces of that that we don't discuss about how often people took children to lynchings were still commonplace. And there are pieces of that that we don't discuss about how often people took children to lynchings for virtually for entertainment, to watch people being lynched. So if someone was, you know, 10 years old in 1965, they're now 64, which means they could be a CEO, an officer, a congressman, a senator, the local storekeep. So to think that this sentiment of Black lives having no value has disappeared when people who were eyewitness and participants in some of the worst atrocities
Starting point is 00:41:15 of this nation, like lynching, are still at a young enough age to have the voice and have the control and power on what's happening to us is insane. And it's like, what do you think they taught their kids? What conversations do you think they heard at their dinner table on Friday night? And so we have to start working at peeling back the psychological effects of that. And a lot of people don't like it when I say this, but at this point, I'm over the adults. We're all rotten and no good, and we've all been tainted. I think we need to start focusing our energy on educating the next generation. We need to start having these in-depth conversations, workshops, and change-making instances in schools.
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Starting point is 00:46:19 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. There's a new Gallup poll out saying that Americans aren't feeling too good about the state of things here in this country. Now, I've never been one to wave a flag
Starting point is 00:46:41 or own clothing with USA emblazoned on it i think you didn't do the old navy tank tops miles nah nah i stopped fucking with old navy when the performance fleece boom died out old navy performance fleece old navy remember that shit yeah i was fucking with performance fleece um and old navy was tight because you could go in there with fucking 20 bucks you come out with a whole new outfit yeah you know and they'd be like oh my god what happened to you i'm like don't worry baby it's a whole performance fleet out performance fleece outfit um i digress but you know i think when i think most people right i think thinking american people who have a sober
Starting point is 00:47:21 eyed take on what this country is aren't probably view this country as a failed experiment with pockets of decency and fantastic PR just the PR is actually the best thing about this country because we're doing all kinds of shit and people think we're number one and then the UN is like
Starting point is 00:47:40 we should act maybe need to send like poll observers to watch the elections. We need to talk about human rights violations because I think the PR scheme is starting to wear thin a bit. But now there's this Gallup poll that has been going on for 20 years. And for the first time, the self-view of how Americans feel about the country has hit its lowest since they began this poll for only 20 years. So right now, it's still a majority. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:48:11 63% say they're extremely or very proud. But that is still the lowest figure ever. The highest right after 9-11 when it was 92%. And only 8% of the country realized what America was doing abroad to bring that kind of terror to the country. It's just the Dixie chicks right uh and then so 40 uh so when they break it down only 20 percent of respondents in the entire thing though said they're satisfied with the direction of the country which is very interesting and even like among conservatives, 67% of Republicans now describe themselves as extremely proud. That's a nine point dip from last year.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Wow. That's for Republicans. Now, I don't know if they are responding to the, you know, it could also be like, I hate what this country is doing. Look at what George Soros is getting Antifa to do.
Starting point is 00:49:03 These fake deaths of Georgeorge floyd you know like if they're on that kind of thing and that's what they're responding to but or if they're like uh this is this is bad i think it all depends on how you're engaged these are interesting because i feel like what is reflected here is like when people are saying whether they're proud to be an american or not i feel like more often than not people are responding to like an image of the idea they have of america and like what you've been told your whole life it stands for and maybe not always what it actually is and what it actually is doing so i don't know yeah maybe people are just kind of not only just seeing what's happening right in front of them, but perhaps realizing they have been sold a lie. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And even if you're waking up to it, don't feel bad. Just realize that now you have work to do. That's all. Just time to roll your sleeves up. And I've seen this tweet said a thousand times over the weekend from a lot of black Twitter users of saying like, oh, wow, you're really getting tired of thinking about race in this country okay yeah you're getting tired okay fantastic and i'll leave
Starting point is 00:50:16 it there because just this is this is the work we have to do and i think you should be excited that you could possibly be in a time in American history where we could do something significant. But you don't. The second those distractions come back, that's what I get worried about. Why also? Because I'm sort of surprised this poll didn't find more people who are upset about America. Because like that's that's the kind of question where you could come to I'm upset about America or not feeling good about its image like a lot of ways. Like you could also come to it from the way of like there are too many people against Trump.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like that could be your reason. Right. Like I remember when I stopped watching the NFL or football in general, it was because I think like the brain injuries are scary and they have like covered up evidence of it giving people long-term concussions and problems and like i have those reasons and then i would tell people that without getting to the reason why and occasionally they'd be like yeah too many people kneeling you're right and i was like no no no i'm not on your team no no no different different thing like we're we're separate and so with this pride in america thing i could see a lot of people being like you know it was a great country but then liberals started blah blah blah like there could be a lot of reasons for people it's definitely the lowest it's been for democrats too because when they break it down by party democrats are
Starting point is 00:51:33 always a little are obviously going to be more critical uh because some people i i don't know who on the right could be critical of america for the right reasons aside from what you're saying it's like i don't know if people just respected the commander in chief and let the president lead the country, we'd be in a lot better place. Okay. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. People, I'm sure that people are responding to a lot of different ideas here that are just expressed under the same umbrella. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But everyone's by the point is everyone is disappointed.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. Yeah. I hopefully, yeah yeah yeah but everyone's by the point is everyone is disappointed yeah yeah i hopefully i tried to go to quiznos and i couldn't eat it sitting inside the restaurant like yeah okay that's what we're talking about idiots i'm a systemic racism systemic what uh-oh i don't know i don't want to talk about that i I'd rather talk about Quiznos. Actually, I'd like to pivot back to Quiznos. Yeah. Okay, cool. Do you remember the prime rib peppercorn sub? Do they still have that? I'm sorry. No, we were talking about it. Okay, you know what's-
Starting point is 00:52:33 Okay, that's too much Quiznos knowledge. Hop off in your Ford Ranger. We'll see you later. Damn. Okay, let's move on to something ridiculous. Because Lacey, when you said this sentence out loud, I said, what the fuck are you talking about? So just, I'm just, you take it away, Lacey. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:50 The whole description of what's happening was confusing, confounding. Guys, Hollywood, you know, what do we need right now? We need entertainment. And when you think entertainment, I know you think biographies, biopics, you know, biopics, biopics, either way. I don't like biopic. Either way. I like biopic. Yeah, biopic feels like a medical procedure.
Starting point is 00:53:15 People say that all the time. And like, I'm always like, it always bugs me. Not that like I want to say something. I'm like, I prefer biopic, like your bio. Right, it just makes sense. But I guess it's biography, biopic biopic, like your bio. Right, it just makes sense. But I guess it's biography. Anyway, we digress. So, guys, we've got a Princess Di movie.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Iconic. A Princess Di biopic coming out, guys. And it's starring just the person that you think of when you think of who should play Princess Di. At the very least. Take a moment. Probably. Let it pop into your head. Like an English actress, a young English actress,
Starting point is 00:53:50 maybe someone unknown who maybe looks exactly like Diana, I feel like, because she's English, yes. Those are good guesses. All right, everyone on three, let's say it together. One, two, three. Kristen Stewart. What? Why?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Kristen Stewart is going to be playing Princess Diana. What? Kristen? Yeah. From Twilight. Vampire. Except for now she'll be saying Prince. She'll say Vampire.
Starting point is 00:54:20 She's like, I know what you are. What? I mean. This is how you know that the royals really did hate her. I mean, yeah, this is rude. This is very rude. Yeah. The OK, so I get it.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Like it's about to say it covers a critical weekend in the early 90s when Diana decided her marriage to Prince Charles wasn't working. OK, so that. Yeah, that sounds interesting. I mean, more importantly, who plays Prince Charles wasn't working. Okay. So that sounds interesting. I mean, more importantly, who plays Prince Charles? Well, not more importantly, but I'm curious what kind of, if they found someone good for that. Could you imagine? That's how they do it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 It's like, yeah, and let's get, what's his name? Tom, what's that dude's name? With the lips? With the lips or without the lips? Tom Hardy. Oh, with the lips. Tom Hardy's with the lips. Kenneth Branagh without the lips with the lips tom hardy tom hardy oh with tom hardy's with the lips kenneth brana without the lips oh yeah that man has very very ben affleck will be playing prince
Starting point is 00:55:13 charles it's like do we we just don't care about casting at this point i don't oh my god let me get in here to play the queen i don't know much it's like it don't matter at this point i should be able to get in on this like Diana, you cannot be divorced. Yo, I would love this. You listen here. You listen here, you little bitch. Oh, okay. That's my impression of the queen.
Starting point is 00:55:33 You're from Essex now, huh? Yeah, like, Charles is cheating on me, isn't he? All right, and you what now? Do what with the queen? I'll none of that and like you're gonna stay married or you're gonna take a bad limo ride diana wow you sound like john boyega trying to sound like he's like a from new jersey and a new jersey italian i really like this movie what i mean i don't know much about much about Kristen Stewart's acting outside of that. I mean, is she is there a reason?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Does this make sense? Lacey, you know, you're you're tapped into these this this world. You know, in Hollywood, there happens to be a thing that happens with the girls where, you know, once you've built up a certain amount of credits or gotten a certain amount of notoriety, the studios will start to push you on the public because they feel like you're a recognizable name that's going to generate revenue. Now, this works in certain instances. For instance, Elizabeth Moss. I will watch anything that they put her ass on. They put her face on a can. I'm going to stare at that can until I can't no more.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'm like, oh, this isn't a television. I never realized um because she's good you know what i mean and i think that that was their hope with kristen stewart obviously they tried it with the charlie's angel franchise a lot of times in hollywood when you see a deal come out like on deadline it's been in negotiation for at least six months to maybe even a year if it's a project that they're also personally that's true oh right because every when it happens every time someone has a deadline, then they go,
Starting point is 00:57:06 finally, I can talk about this. And they're like, yeah, I was working on that for 17 years. And you're like, oh, shit. So it might have been one of those things where in the height of the Kristen Stewart, you know, like, oh, she has all these new projects coming out.
Starting point is 00:57:18 She's going to be one of the Charlie's Angels. She's in these action films or whatever. They were like, oh, also she'll play Lady Di. And then all those projects started to come out and flop. And now she's still these action films or whatever. They were like, oh, also she'll play Lady Di. And then all those projects started to come out and flop. And now she's still attached to this. I also like the idea that the studio thought this was what the world needed right now. They're like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:35 We should cast Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana. I think people need to hear that right now. They really need to hear that. I'm okay with it as long as I can play Queen Elizabeth. I just think if we're going to have radical casting. I feel the same way. Queen with a K. Queen with a K.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Queen with a K. And you're drinking out of like a chalice, a bedazzled chalice and shit. Yes, I will have my wig with the curly gray hair. I will rock it. Oh, shit. Okay. It should be me. I feel like that would go well with like kristen
Starting point is 00:58:05 stuart's you know sort of like typecast of like the i don't understand right i don't understand i'm trying to think of who would actually be and every time this there's like a casting on the show i was engaged in this exercise where i don't have the imagination to even say well who would because i'm like i'd have to really think about it. But I'm trying to actually think of someone, when I look at this picture of Diana, like if there is somebody who's true, like just coming with it. Reese Witherspoon.
Starting point is 00:58:34 They do have kind of similar, but see, but that's where Christian Stewart and Diana do have similar facial structures. Like I can't really hate on that. The nose is a little bit different. Is Reese the right age, though? No, she's not the right anything. Not for this stage of her life.
Starting point is 00:58:49 But I would rather see the Reese Witherspoon typecast up against the queen than the Kristen Stewart typecast up against the queen. You know what I mean? The timid, like, oh, but vampires. I love both of them. And a werewolf. Like, I kind of want to see the reese witherspoon like what is happening right it certainly sounds more fun than like prince charles uh i can't do
Starting point is 00:59:13 this anymore do you have any of you read like her biography or anything because this must this weekend must have been fucking wild as fuck if the entire movie is just about this weekend in the early 90s and knowing like she wasn't fucking with dodie till like the late 90s so what right what like what this there this must be juicy as fuck ah it's like my week with maryland or something so i'm i want to see it i mean i'm gonna i think i'll see it regardless because people love princess di i don't know who the right choice is but but maybe Kristen will surprise us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Look, I'm not going to hate out the gate, but I am confounded. The thing is, though, I guess even when you read it, right, this is how it's just like it covers this critical weekend, right? When Diana decided her marriage, it wasn't working and that she needed to veer from a path that put her in line to one day be queen. The drama takes place over three days and one of her final christmas holidays in the house of windsor and they're sandringham estate in norfolk england so that this is about a three day this is a three days where she said now fuck this i don't even want to be the fucking
Starting point is 01:00:16 queen are you out your fucking mind hell what the fuck am i doing yeah royal weekend at bernie's right oh i mean how rad is she though to be like you know I've been given all these promises everyone says a princess's life is supposed to be like this and you know what I feel like shit all of the time and I hate this bye
Starting point is 01:00:36 like duty is not I think it's because that's like you not putting your country over yourself you not putting capitalism before you like if princess di can do it we can all do it on a micro level man everybody embrace your prince inner princess dive and she threw the crown in the trash and finally steve what's a myth what's something that people think is true you know to be false or visi versi uh everybody's talking about everybody i think this is a big myth everybody's talking about i can't wait for quarantine be over i can't
Starting point is 01:01:11 out wait for this shit and i just want to dispel for myself this is the best time i've ever had in my whole goddamn life i'm loving life i never wanted to return Keep those checks coming, government. We'll see how long the government can keep that energy up. I mean, I'm going on. They lost that energy quick. I'm going on walks. You know what I mean? I'm smelling flowers out there. I'm cooking for my girl every day. I feel downright European. I'm telling you, man. It feels good.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Wait, which part was European? The walks, the flower sniffing? I think the cooking for my girl. The cooking. You know how those Euros do it. I'm walking to the market down the street every day you know what i mean it's there's a baguette in my bike you're singing that song from beauty and the beast and shit everybody i mean yeah a lot of people have like you know we were talking about this yesterday about what you know clearly we've slammed the brakes on something and people are starting to find good in certain things slowing down.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And I get your point, man, because there's certain things we absolutely cannot continue to do. I think we have to even think about how efficient we are with our work weeks and things like that. Somehow I'm doing more work not being in an office or I'm more efficient not being in an office. And I feel like the quality of our work hasn't diminished being in an office and like i feel like the quality of our work hasn't diminished and things like that and i feel like those are bigger
Starting point is 01:02:29 questions like do people need offices do we need to be like because creating an office creates all this commuting and shit like that like are we what things can we take away from this positively but yeah i'm the same way where i'm like i'm also dreading like people being like hey we're gonna go out here here like you're gonna come and blah blah blah when it's now I'm like, I'm also dreading like people being like, hey, we're going to go out here, here, like you're going to come and blah, blah, blah. When it's down, like, you know what? Like, I can do what I need to do. But I think I'm also just an introvert in that way where I don't I don't power up from being around people. I power up from being by myself.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Well, it's been nice. Yeah, I miss I miss hugging my friends. But, you know, I saw Zed in honor the other day and we went outside i picked up something for the house and we just hung out on their porch and it's like people are just hanging out in the park or on the porch and it's like it's good to see you yeah i wish i wish i could hug him but at the same time it's like this is nice man it's just nice being around people that you love and it's like what the fuck have we been doing especially i know lacy you could probably relate to this because in in the you know doing live comedy stuff you're out every night you're going from activity to activity uh you don't want to let anyone down and i mean
Starting point is 01:03:34 basically you're an entrepreneur so you don't want you want to be a serial entrepreneur that's what i call scamming yeah so basically you don't want to miss anything because this might be the thing that leads to work but uh without this there's no guilt i don't have any guilt about not writing jokes i don't have any guilt about any of this stuff um and you're right it's causing you i think we were all telling ourself a story before and this disruption said, oh, maybe this story isn't real or maybe I don't have to. Right. The thing that I told myself isn't real and I could rewrite this thing.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Just like all Black Lives Matter stuff is that we don't have to accept that anymore. So the way we've been living, the things we've been valuing, we can rewrite this world and our life and make it the way we want it to make it and only do things that truly bring us joy. So we'll see how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. I've been sitting in garages with people where they're like open the garage up and the chairs will be eight feet apart. And what I've noticed is like, yeah, I used to hang out with people before before but like I'm constantly on my phone onslaught of emails right now I've my thumbs are gonna fall the fuck off
Starting point is 01:04:50 um I'm hopefully gonna be cashing out in one of those Apple commercials like have you or a loved one lost a thumb from constant texting um from swiping from swipe texting from swipe texting like I'm gonna get that lawsuit together for us guys guys. It's going to be nitty. Right, please. We'll all have a black turtleneck when I'm done with Apple. But yeah, it's like now I feel guilty if I'm on my phone at all. I'm like, I got to focus on this human who's in front of me because I don't get human time that much. Right. And then I will say I did cheat and hug one of my closest friends, Priscilla, because we went to a protest together and we had been isolated, each of us in our own homes.
Starting point is 01:05:28 So we're like, we can hug. We've been alone for months. And when I tell you it hit like, I never had a hug hit like that. I was like, am I horning now? What's happening? She hugged the sonic rings out of you. Right, literally. It was like, bing, bing, bing.
Starting point is 01:05:52 So I absolutely agree with you on that, Steve. And it's interesting to see the restructuring. I think that with the Black Lives Matter thing, it's that we finally have the attention span of white folks in a way that we've never had before. And unfortunately, there's so much trauma circulating that's like you can't ignore it and here we are and now i feel like i'm doing a cleanup of every industry that i work in the theater that i work at specifically i'm working very diligent with them to clean up their systemic racial issues i'm working with places that i work at professionally like when i tell you like it was like I had to put on the Black Panther hat and fight everybody.
Starting point is 01:06:27 We had to just fight everybody. Well, there's time now. We got time now. Right. I had time. It felt like things that weren't worth, there was an acceptance, there was a certain nihilism when it came to accepting white supremacy.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Well, it wasn't even accepting. It was survival. But accepting that it existed, and it was defining or just more basically or but accepting like that it existed and it was defining every single space we were operating in to that not that it's like and i welcome white supremacy in my life but it's just like that's just how it is and now we're at a point we're like nah this is not like this not anymore not now right it's like that's that's a big energetic difference i feel from a lot of people. Yeah, I don't believe in destiny. I think if when you believe in destiny, quote unquote, then you have to believe that some really fucked up things are going on. And then, you know, whatever the whatever God cares about my comedy career, but he doesn't care about the continent of Africa or something like that.
Starting point is 01:07:18 So I don't believe in it like that. But also, this feels like such a crazy, unique time in history that all these things had to come together for these changes to happen. And so now I'm so excited to grab a hold of it by the tail and say, like, fuck, I'm just going to dedicate my life. I don't really I you know, I've said no to a couple of comedy shows recently, Zoom shows, because I was like, I don't want to do my fucking dumb act before. I got to rewrite my act. We've got to figure out what. Right. I don't want to use your body and voice for now. Yeah, I don't want to distract people with comedy. That's not what I'm not trying to distract anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I want to figure out a way to to make all of this to implement all of this together. So that's exciting. I don't care about just living for myself. I want to change this world. Sorry, but it's amazing. I don't care about just living for myself. I want to change this world. Sorry. No, but it's amazing. I feel like a lot of comedians have really, I mean, granted, a lot of my Twitter feed is comedians, but also activists and many other people.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But there has, I've been really, it's, it's interesting to see, cause I think to be a good comedian, you have to be intelligent and be observing things enough that you can synthesize them in a humorous way. And it's interesting to see so many people begin to like use those skills to also see everything else that's happening in the world and like activate them very like in a meaningful way as well it seems like i feel like comedy is going to be a lot different after this because a lot of comedians too are just like yo if you're not like if your head's not in the game and you're tweeting some dumb shit right now like what the fuck are you doing like you know you're smart enough to be a comedian so you're going you doing? Like, you know, you're smart enough to be a comedian.
Starting point is 01:08:50 So you're going to be I mean, if you're going to be smart enough to be a good comedian, you should be smart enough to know what time it is, too. Right. And Dave Chappelle proved that with like, you know, his comedy little short special coming out that was barely any jokes. And a lot of it was just him getting shit off of his chest. And so it's cool to see that kind of change. getting shit off of his chest. And so it's cool to see that kind of change. I've only really been doing Zoom shows and comedy shows with people, black people especially, people of color, where I feel like we can have a good time
Starting point is 01:09:11 and not have to do too much educating. But also share, like yesterday, I did a couple's therapy with Naomi Epping, who I love so much. And we just talked about the fun that we had had at protests and the weird moments at protests. And like, it was interesting to do that, you know what I mean mean and have a good time uh but also still feel like you're in the zeitgeist
Starting point is 01:09:29 of what's going on to your point steve about man about destiny i think of destiny as a scam that i like to implement on people this is your destiny like manifest destiny was america's scam to everybody they were like manifest destiny y'all got to rob these native people because God has said so. Wait, what God? Hold on, hold on. What God? Hold on. What God?
Starting point is 01:09:51 Robbery? Fuck it up? Okay. All right, it's on. I don't know if y'all heard, but God just told me y'all got to get the fuck out because of some shit I just heard of. So, you know, we got to turn it back around and be like, I think God said rights equal rights. The thing now, yeah, I mean, even like I think comedians at the end of the day are great communicators. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Like that's the art of good comedy is like you're communicating so many things skill set to articulate a lot of the bad things that are going on and to make that easier for people to understand. Because, you know, things are different. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend,
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