The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 137 (Best of 8/3/20-8/7/20)

Episode Date: August 9, 2020

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So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Our podcast penetrates you. Gross. We will uncomplicate news. Daily, we joke about the zeitgeist. Help me. Ate too much Taco Bell. Really, the only thing that works for me Is recording pause with Jack and myself This shit's as fucked up as an enema So many turds are in the zeitgeist

Okay, I don't know what... That is so... Evocative. Shout out to Crispy Meme D, Christy Yamaguchi-May for bringing it back to our boy Trent. That was fire. Trent Rezzy. Fire, fire. What is something you think is overrated?

Overrated? I was going to say fans at games. During that Clippers-Lakers game, I didn't notice once. Like the tip-off happened and I was like, oh, I'll never think about whether or not they're fans again. fans at games during that clippers lakers game i didn't notice once that like like this tip off happened and i was like oh i'll never think about whether or not they're fans again and they aren't cutting to the stands i don't care when they cut to the stands i don't care that they're like people enjoying it yeah fine let just let me watch the basketball part i'm in my house i don't care right it's interesting because it seems like the being there it's really noticeable like for the

players and the people who are doing the game at the game, they're like, this feels so weird. It feels like you're at basketball camp or like, you know, just in a gym. But watching it, yeah, you can't really tell. They have the fan noise piped in a little bit. Well, that was also kind of incongruous with baseball is the fan noise. But I also, two innings in, I didn't,

I stopped noticing that there's no one in the stadium. Right. Yeah. It's just, again, like we were saying, I think on the last episode about how like so many professional sports that are being played now,

they just have the vibe of like community college sporting events. Cause there's no, there's no audience. Yeah. Your coaches scream, sneakers squeaking. I do like though, it seems like the audio feed, they'd have to dump just so they weren't violating any sort of FCC profanity laws,

because there were times a ball would go out of bounds, and you hear someone go like, oh, and then the sound was just dumped for five seconds, and then come back up, and you're like, oh, what were they saying? Yeah, not many people know that in the bubble, they have voice actors who come in and do, oh, shampoo me. Just come in for those curses. Come on, ref. You're meeting a stranger in the Alps.

Yeah, that was the NBA end of last week. A lot of fun. It was good to have it back. I feel like the players, they're professionals. They're not losing anything. Maybe lackluster teams who have, let's say, a historically big difference between how they play at home versus how they play on the road

will not be quite as good in this atmosphere. Sixers. But I'm worried. As we record this, I haven't seen the result of the Sixers game over the weekend, but that was something that I was thinking of. 538 actually raised the Sixers' chances of winning the title the most when the quarantine happened. And now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like,

well, if they played the worst on the road when nobody's cheering for them, for people who don't know, the Sixers were like 10-22 on the road and then almost undefeated at home. Right. I'm just wondering how that's going to break out. It's the most on the road you could possibly be.

Right. Exactly. It's on the road extrapolated 100 times. Right. So we'll see how that works out for them. J.J. Redick looking good, though. All the beer shotgunning. Do you think there are going to be any players

who completely find their zone because there are no fans? I mean, JJ Reddick is surprisingly... JJ Reddick is just a shooting specialist, but he had a couple moves that blew up on Twitter. People were like, what was that?

He faked one way through a no-look pass the other. Magic Johnson, people were like, how did... I wonder if going to Duke for that like he like faked one way through a no look past the other like magic johnson people like what how did well i wonder if like going to duke for so long you get so used to verbal abuse that the second it's not there it's like you can like now use another part of your brain to play you're like uh i was using about 20 to just block out people to focus him and shane badier were like officially the most hated basketball players in the world for entire decades. So I'm sure Christian Leitner,

it didn't work out so well for, but, uh, those guys. Do you think any like past choke artists are like watching this? Like I could have done this. This would have been like, like Nick Anderson is like turning over a table.

Like he's so bad. He doesn't get to just go in there. Yeah. Anyways, it'll be interesting. And I will continue to watch all the clever ways uh they find shotgun beers um in the in the bubble so what you're about to hear the the audio quality uh the audio quality is not great coming from uh our good friend chris crofton it's a full-on chris crofton episode uh chris is a

total wild card and that extends to his audio uh in this episode yeah so just brace your ears because we figured rather than have everyone tweet us to make sure we know what we're hearing yes we do uh but that's the cold brew chaos that mr. Crofton brings. He is speaking into a microphone the whole time. We are forced to assume that the microphone was plugged into his belly button or just a house plant nearby or something because it did not come through. But anyways, fun episode, as always, with Chris. What's a myth chris what's something people think is true you know i think some people probably think glass houses by billy joel that

album isn't that good and i can share that myth and tell you it's the besides the hiking it's the only thing that's been keeping me going if anyone wants to get kick this pandemic in the ass and get a fresh perspective just blast off elena and get out of the trail meet a woman who's left her backpack in a tree in the middle of the night and go take her there and help her out yeah i don't know i can also vouch for all of that. Yep. How I met my wife. Is that album content?

I don't know the Billy Joel discography enough. Is Glass Houses seen as just a shit album? No, it's not. It's not considered one of the most powerful elixirs on the earth. Right, right. I love Don't Ask Me Why. One of the most powerful elixirs on the earth right right i love don't wait the most powerful elixirs which it is thank you don't ask me why is one of my favorite billy joel songs i i was more of a

greatest hits fan growing up but uh well you're a little younger yeah glasshouse glasshouses came out in 1980 so i was like in sixth fifth grade probably I mean, it's not like I'm not, I wasn't like in the arena with a lighter, but, uh, but I did, but that record had, um, you may be right. I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for. I mean, like, just like it's all toxic masculinity, but everything before, you know, like 2000, actually, whatever. It's all toxic stuff if you really examine it. But, you know, it's all just like, if you want a man, it's a little unpredictable. You're describing a really unstable relationship. Yeah, yeah, no, it's all that. It's all that shit. It was just like, if you look at it yeah no it's all that it's all that shit

it's just like if you look at it now it's just like the same it's like god women must have been so annoyed through every period of time until well pretty much now for yeah like it's amazing because they'll men shut the fuck up yeah they just had to listen to men be like i'm horny and a little bit drunk it's also a great example of like just sums up Billy Joel in the sense that it's full of really like great songs but it also like the album cover

sums up like what's not cool about Billy Joel because it is it's called Glass Houses and the cover is a shot from behind of him holding a rock getting ready to throw it into a glass house oh yeah and his throwing form

is off though his throwing form bad he's kind of a little misshapen kind of a man but he that's his house I like looked into the liner notes like I don't know if they had a great glass wall,

but he's like, he's like, I realized when I was writing the record, I lived in a glass house. Oh my God. Chuck Losterman. At that point, like you're like the journalist,

like, dude, shut the fuck up. Right. Thank you. Oh, wow. Oh,

and you know, he told that. So, you know, yeah, like at a cocktail party or whatever, and you won't believe this as I'm writing it. Don't say it.

He's going to say it. Don't say it. He's going to say it. Christie Brinkley. I actually, it turns out the title of my record. Oh, no. He's going to say the same thing he said in Rolling Stone. Yeah.

He sold 7.1 million copies in the U.S. alone. It's interesting. There's a great Chuck Klosterman essay about Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen, like comparing the two of them and how, you know, Billy Joel is, you know, sold about the same amount of records at their peak. Songs, like if you look at them song for song, they both have comparably really good songs that stand the test of time. But Billy Joel's just not cool.

So he just doesn't get the respect that Bruce Springsteen does. He doesn't have that folklore hero vibe to him. Right, exactly. Billy Joel on this album cover is wearing bootcut jeans. I feel like you'd never see Bruce Springsteen in bootcut jeans. Well, I think Billy Joel had a little bit of a problem with getting

dressed because he is like he's kind of shaped weird. He's very small. I think he just had trouble probably. His stylist probably didn't know what to do with him. They were always kind of like, try these bootcut jeans on you. He's like, do I always have to wear bootcut jeans?

The stylist always was, I don't know. Otherwise, they'll see the stilts. Just cuff them. He was like, does this look good? And the stylist was like, eh, good enough, I guess. Look, you're not Springsteen, man. I wouldn't think about it too much. But I love Billy Joel for real.

He's a great songwriter. And I recommend, I recommend that record. And I recommend especially all for Lena, that song, all for Lena, go on a hike and put on all for Lena and, uh,

and, uh, just do your best. Sorry. Yeah. I don't know what I'm talking about. Listen, that's how I grew up.

I was the kid in the house that had to like make it so my parents didn't get divorced. So for me, this is a very hard time. I'm like, I'm telling everybody how I'm not kidding. I was the kid in the house that my parents were like, we're going to get divorced unless you do a joke. Oh my God. It was like that kind of thing. And then I would like do a joke or whatever.

And they'd be like, you saved our marriage. So for me, this time is just like, I'm always like, there's a way to look joke or whatever. And they'd be like, you saved our marriage. So for me, this time is just like, I'm always like, there's a way to look at it where it's going to be okay, mom. And I'm sure that has intends your engagement with comedy as a career in any way.

Negative. Probably not. I don't think so. Great. What is a, what's a myth was something people think is true or something uh vice versa okay this might be controversial but uh but i think a myth is the fact that diversity or representation are the ways to solve racial problems necessarily okay no and i think main evidence of that

is that uh jeffrey epstein's island did not allow black girls. For real? Yeah. Wow. I noticed an aesthetic in a lot of the photos that I saw, but wow. There is a motif, yeah. Yeah. My wife is Korean. She just watched the filthy, rich documentary.

She was like, he really had a type. I was kind of glad that it wasn't Korean girls. Yeah. It's like, would diversity have made this whole situation better? I don't think so. Right, right. You know? Right.

Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, I think also the reason why a lot of people think just inclusion or representation is like the answer is because you don't have to upend the systemic, you know. Yeah, absolutely. The structures that maintain these forms of oppression and racism. Absolutely. Okay, well, I'm not going to sort of look into my pay scales and things like that and the numbers of people I employ,

but how about this? I will green light three shows with black people. Right. Or I will hire one black PA. Right, exactly. Who works in a different room from the one black writer, so they never actually meet each other. Yeah.

That's always funny when you're on a set and you see the other black person. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Stop, stop, stop. Stop the go-kart. Stop the go-kart. Hey, how you doing, man?

Cut, cut, cut. Yeah, I'm like, how you doing? He's like, are you the director? He's like, no, I'm LeVar Burton's nephew. And I'm like, okay, that's like are you the director it's like no i'm lavar burton's nephew and i'm like okay that's fair yeah i'm just here visiting yeah i'm like okay cool how are you liking it he's like not for me i'm like fair yeah i just i just feel like i've watched enough anime that have like one black character where i'm just like he didn't need to be there i would have enjoyed it more without him and also japanese culture has a very you know fucked up relationship with fetishizing blackness too so it's uh it does

it's not a you're not gonna get the the most even-handed representations on those things man yeah yeah i've done videos on it but you know what i don't think they're working yeah yeah no i mean it's it's hard it's you know island nation mentality and people just have this thing like well it's not violent racism it's just yeah it's just really it's just violent othering of people yeah uh and being absolutely dismissive i mean this happens with fours in general especially if you have something to say on societal issues in japanese culture where if you have a platform and you say something the immediate thing is like well they're not japanese and you know thank you for even though this person was raised here

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sort of you know moms and dads of children in like classes my kids have been in spreading like things that were oh no yeah masker anti-masker light type shit and there was a big protest in germany which i had kind of uh credited with being good about this sort of thing, where they were like, you can't tell us to wear masks, basically. So I just wanted to kind of take a step back, because it does seem like, I don't know, like this is the direction this whole thing is headed. That just doesn't seem to be going away, no matter how many scientific papers

and you know panels of scientists come out and say no masks are important like for some reason they just don't seem capable of uh letting that go what's like the take that you're hearing from people you're like damn y'all are on this shit too because usually you know the real heavy shit is like the over-the-top satan trying to mask right that stuff but usually you know the real heavy shit is like the over the top satan trying to mask that stuff but then you see the sort of concern trolly um angles about it of like carbon dioxide poisoning exactly so the the one i'm seeing from uh parents is unmask our kids let's talk mom to mom uh that was like a graphic that i saw people passing around and then from inhaling micro mold caused by trapped water vapor for exhalation can be harmful inhaling the slow

buildup of co2 causes impaired cognition suffocation for babies and toddlers who cannot communicate these are all you know debunked right they're saying our community is seeing evidence of all of these issues in children. That's not true. Okay, where's that evidence? It's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. It's frightening is what it is.

It is. I think we're just seeing this everywhere now that social media is a thing. We're not designed to be an evidence based species. We're designed designed to be an evidence-based species. We're designed to be a narrative-based one. There was this, on Choppo actually,

Adam McKay was talking about the book Species and how the thing that separated Homo sapiens from Neanderthals, we were basically the two competing forms of what approximated humans and the thing that homo sapiens kept losing battles but then they would come back with more and more people and eventually like overwhelm the neanderthals and the idea is basically that they were able to get people to believe in these narratives and like get on board with whatever the war cause was.

And that is like our defining feature is like our gullibility essentially. And our ability to like believe in a narrative, to get charged up by a narrative. So it's not anything to do with the truth. It's just that we believe in stories. That's like our defining feature as a species. I feel like you just explained my most recent breakup. I just really believed your stories.

It was really just, what a dumb bitch. Thanks for that read, Jack. You really, really hit me hard on that one. Yikes. Okay, sorry. I didn't believe that was his Ferrari. It had an Avis sticker on the window. He said she was just a friend um right helping him through

his last breakup oh my god jesus that's why they're still close it's i mean it's just funny because you're right i agree i fully agree with you that is totally right it's scary as fuck how much we just we take people for face value i mean it's hard for me too because i was just talking to a friend because i'm like too honest I'm too truthful to the point that people don't believe me when I tell the truth and I have found that very fascinating because most people don't just lie but they believe their lies or you know they they just spread so much nonsense that when you are telling the truth or you're providing facts or you know you're showing shit with science people are are like, I don't know.

It doesn't feel like it makes sense. Right. And it's like, I don't even know how to fucking deal with this shit because I have a family member who's anti-mask. And it's like she really, she talks in circles. And it's exhausting. It's exhausting. It's the troll thing. It's just you can't.

And these people have children. Yes. Yeah. I think the other thing, though, too, it's like this level of exhaustion people get because on one level, we're willing to say, yeah, this is something biology and science is going to take the lead on in figuring out

because we are flesh and blood humans, and that's just the arena we're in. The science is going to take the lead on in figuring out because we are flesh and blood humans. And that's just the arena we're in. The science is going to have to solve this. It's not about like, oh, well, if I fucking cock my fist back far enough in a Rite Aid. Oh, my God. I was just aroused. You guys should have seen what I've seen. He put his fist up to the camera.

Wow. So like there's this other thing where it's just so much tidier an explanation to just say the cure is already out there. And they're just keeping us from that with all these masks and shit. X, Y and Z. And it's so much easier than to say I'm completely out of control in this instance. I have zero fucking control over this. What I do have control over is my outlook on things and these other. So the things you do have control over, it's like, it i'm gonna get charged up off this if i put a mask

on i will poison myself even though there have been countless doctors medical experts uh respiratory specialists who have been like i'm gonna hook myself up to a blood oxygen reading like machine with a mask on and i'm gonna walk for a long time so you can see what my like my oxygen levels are and they will never go in anything out below 98 ever this is not gonna happen you will see me do this because i'm trying to show y'all because you believe this other thing and again that doesn't work because these people are like i'm tired of being at home i'm tired of not like working i'm tired of being broke there's all kinds of stressors building on people that they aren't able to articulate. I think also.

So it's so much easier to be like, fuck the government and these masks when it should be like my employer won't give me health insurance. And I have like other kids that I'm worried about getting an education. But it's easy to put all that shit into the this other tidy thing of the master fucking us up, blah, blah, blah.

And it's, and I get it on one level, but it's, it's dark and it's dangerous because there's a lot of real energy out there. It's also because I think that the, I think that's the extreme of people that are so frustrated that they're angry and that they believe this bullshit. I think there's the other group of people that they don't know how to just,

and this is common for a lot of people. They don't know how to say, I don't know. I don't know what's true. I don't know how to just and this is common for a lot of people they don't know how to say i don't know i don't know what's true i don't know what's happening as opposed to you know holding on to these extremes i mean that's what's fucked up i mean that's that's big part of the problem with a lot of issues is that people don't know how to admit that they don't know yeah and it's okay not to know i think this has been like our most common underrated that guests have come on to say is that or just basically make normalizing saying you don't know. Yeah, it's true.

That's okay. Yeah. And I think there's we don't want to be uh like we're we're just i think too much of our uh self-evaluation our self-value it comes from the idea that we're um somehow special because that's what like american identity is based around and so you know what like these ideas are it's not like some genius is some somewhere picking the perfect idea to appeal to mothers and realizing like that telling them that their motherly intuition knows what's best for their kids instead of scientists like and that these are all things that they secretly

suspected and hoped were true like they it's just that there's a million ideas being put out and the one that is most successful at like clinging on to those desires of mothers is the one that gets spread virally like literally it's like a thought virus that is being spread the most effective one is going to eventually like take over and that's kind of what like the social media, like the more I think about this, the more I'm like, as long as we have social media and nobody who's responsible acting as a gatekeeper on like what gets spread, it's just gonna be ideas that people wish were true rather than the truth.

Yeah, because Twitter's starting to look like the first grade schoolyard and there's a third grader telling them some bullshit they all believe oh yeah you know what i mean and that's and it ends there it's like yeah great i mean what mark said you know what i mean like if you uh you know if you look at this thing too long like you'll go blind like don't touch your penis or you'll go like it's like all this weird it's just like pseudoscience shit that like you you know like because that's what it feels like when you're a kid, like the lame shit you believe is the gospel truth. Right, right.

Because someone's slightly older than you. Santa Claus. Yeah, whatever the fuck it is, God. Truth fairy. The truth fairy. So I think now like with social media, it's sort of the same environment where you have a receptive audience. Somebody just sprinkles that in and there's no one there to be like yo someone needs it's just a lot of energy now like how do you get somebody to look at something differently when they're already so receptive to anything because we're fate like people have just been

failed or people have failed to understand what's going on i'm i'm also yeah i'm also shocked that like people it's you a you go to a doctor's office if you get surgery they're in masks if you if you travel people more masks and other places i mean one of the weirdest conversations i don't know if i mentioned this last time one of the weirdest conversations i ever had when i was i was um working in tokyo another comedian and he saw a bunch of people in masks and he his reaction was like if there's this to leave the house, they need to wear a mask. Why don't they just stay home? And I was like, what if they have something, and they're trying not to spread it?

And like, I hadn't heard. Yeah, that's what it is. And that was the thing was, I was like, I've never even had that thought. I've never even had to defend someone wearing a mask, and that was my initial reaction. And I guess I always think back to that moment of like why did he see that that that way and why did i see it this way and and that's really how i see it sometimes where it's like some people just are incapable of looking at shit in different ways you you just see it the one way and that's it yeah the sort of weird the whole idea that scientists are trying to get people to

understand is that it's source control that that you'd be protecting other people because you might have already caught it and might be asymptomatic. The time when they change from being like masks should be worn if available to everybody needs to wear masks is when they realized asymptomatic people are spreading this disease. You might have it and not realize it. asymptomatic people are spreading this disease you might have it and not realize it but that requires people to like it's just so incongruous to the version of reality that americans are the the like i'm special lack of empathy not part of the system you know we're fed a very tailored diet of bullshit stories about the country too that, that makes everyone, if you're not critical, you'd be like, yeah, America's the coolest place where white people just prosper and nothing bad ever happens. in terms of that it's built off of chattel slavery and using this forced labor to create the foundations economically to create this amazing country, or that it was completely stolen from indigenous people and that we've systematically made it so it's impossible for

these groups to now flourish in this new version of America. And then on top of it, the country doesn't know the kind of destruction or war that many other countries have had brought to their doorstep. So there's this idea that America will never know foreign troops on our streets, will never know bombed out buildings from an invading army or anything like that. But it's woven into the histories of many other countries. Even if you're English, you know about the blitz and you know that people had to go underground because the bombs the bombings were so wild that that's just what it was that became the day-to-day of that country the people in japan know you can get an atomic bomb dropped on you right or any like it's that sort of strife is just so abstract to

americans that the second there's something like that, it just becomes a circus. There's just not that ability, I don't know why, to say, okay, we need to hold tight. But again, I think because of the mentality of America is so individualistic that yeah, something like wearing a mask to consider the safety of another person is just antithetical to this whole idea we have of what it means to be american yeah i've been saying that like we need to publicize the fact that the flu shot is not for you it's for like saving the lives of old people and uh babies that you're around uh because like i feel like that's an underrepresented thing like you might have the

flu and be spreading it and not really be sick like so the people who are like i haven't had the flu in years like and so i don't get the flu shot are actually you know that's a thing you're saying that's incredibly selfish i've been saying like that needs to be the publicity campaign because that like actually makes it seem like more heroic to get a flu shot than not to but i i now think like that's not like that wouldn't work in america it's about it's anything that is seen as weakness and not strength is immediately rejected so having empathy is weakness wearing a mask is weakness you know saying having to get a flu shot is weakness because then you can't be like i got the most brolic immune system on fucking earth bro come at me like i'll eat biohazardous waste and be

chill the next day like it's that idea so like to somebody because myself i was like that too uh until i got schooled and i was like yeah you know what i do need to get this flu shot and i was thinking more in this very individualistically i'm like no i'm good i'm good i'm good rather than what's my what's my responsibility to other people in my community what's my but that's a that's a thought most people it'd be interesting i'm curious how many americans would ever say now what's my responsibility to the others in my community yeah like that's a very when you have a leader that's always talking about himself in a way that makes him seem like and he i hear is a fucked up thing he achieved what he achieved being completely selfish you know and and and throwing

people under a bus shameless and yeah and and exploiting people and and fucking people over and he proved that you can achieve the greatest title in america by being a selfish piece of shit so that's what sucks is like we can sit here and talk about this shit all day but a lot of motherfuckers yes the examples are there that's what they and they love him that's why they love him they're like fuck it i can fucking be selfish as fuck if i want to and get away with it and be president and be rich and have a hot wife like and be best yeah it's and and he's proving that you you can be successful by being selfish that's what's fucked like we can talk about this all day but that's that's the real fuckery here and i think maybe the other side of that coin to what you're

saying marcella is that if he's that example and now we're seeing how poorly he's performing because science is clearly against him and is is actually the the reasonable argument in all of this that it's doubly a threat to those people because like well what the fuck i just thought i could do whatever the fuck i want but and now there's all this mask shit what the fuck yeah but that's like but that's the thing they are getting away with it because there are people that aren't seeing people around them die or anyone they love dies so like they they will they will not be hindered in their perspective unless and that's what's fucked right because we see like people having white these white people in texas having parties and then their family died like 13 family members die and it's

like oh shit maybe we were wrong like it that's what it's taking for some people which is bonkers it's a terrible yeah terrible price to pay for that right but it's still it's still not happening everywhere and that's what's crazy about the florida shit right they were mimicking our president and now we're seeing the repercussions of that and so i hope i hope that they change their mind but will they he's still he's still doing not terrible in the numbers in the poll yeah his approval and disapproval or uh his approval is going up and disapproval are uh his approvals going up and disapproval going down like very slightly and he's still not where any presidential candidate would want to be but it's still shocking to me that he's anything but like like 40 points underwater

um given how how badly he's fucked up that's how but again narratives right i mean that's to your point of narratives that means 40 of the country is all in on this narrative of white supremacy and cultural dominance. Yeah. And it's, again, it's, it's the fourth quarter. How all in are they,

Miles? Huh? They're so all in to the point that they will, uh, shoot at cops with an AK-47. Oh, yeah. And shoot at a,

uh, store owner who asks them to wear a mask with a handgun. That's what one man did in Pennsylvania, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Another thing they're all in on, some of the anti-mask people are wearing fake masks

that don't prevent them from spreading germs, but just will get people off their back. And they're like, see, nobody stops us from wearing it. It's all compliance. It's not about prevention. They're using the fact that they are going out of their way to do like an aggressively sociopathic thing as evidence that the mask people are wrong

somehow. Yeah. Um, when I, when I shoplift is definitely the store's fault. That's for sure fault that's for sure that's for sure oh i mean their lp protocols were all fucked up man lost prevention for the for the amateurs rookies yeah back to that guy in bethlehem pa who started licking shots at a

store owner because he stole he's like put your mask on you can't be in here he's like fuck that took two cigars and when the guy came after him he like shot a shot in the air and a couple of the guy at the employee and he ran off the cops found him the thing that's wild more than anything also is that this white man busted started clapping a ak-47 at the police and he just got shot in his legs and his butt and is alive they were like that's the homie yeah that's but anything that's like another part there's so many layers i'm looking at this like there's this mask thing there's this other part of imagine a person of color even pulling out of ak anywhere yeah and it's not even that like this man deserved to be killed or whatever but just look at i could not imagine the difference of discipline of where you

were shooting somebody that somehow this man was not hitting any of his vital organs. But you know, all that to say is that this pandemic is also just creating so much more chaos than we can actually see. Like the stressors not to like, excuse what any of these people do anywhere. But I know the stress is so real for so many people. And it's very, very intense and existential. And it all depends on what the prism you're looking for. You can take that to some terrible, destructive place that is dangerous to the community. You can take another place to try and figure it's, it's just,

it like the guy that decapitated his landlord. Yeah. With a samurai sword. I mean, Jesus. I mean, a lot of these are like kind of stories that you'd feel like you'd see here and there,

like throughout the year, but right. All that to say, but it's happening across the country but i think you know that's the other reason why the response to this pandemic is so essential because there's another x factor of the the like how everyone is taking this and how they're processing this stress because of many people are looking up and saying oh i'm i'm in the hands of a government that does not care whether or not I can put food on my table or stay in my home.

Yeah, just one thing. As media consumers, it's worth looking at how this guy is being covered because immediately the story came out. His lawyer said, but he had gone through a divorce and he had lost his job and he's immediately being humanized. That's another way that it's different from how it would be. If this story was person of color doing that, it would, none of those factors would be brought up by the media.

It might be brought up by his lawyer, but that certainly wouldn't be part of the story that was being published on the Washington post. Both of John was killed in his own apartment and they say, Oh, he was smoking weed. Yeah. And then just

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we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. any black holes most of the time and we're back uh what do we want to start with we want to talk uh spency confidential up top spency copies let's do it it was it kicked off quarantine i got i was on tour and i got back into town and like the first night i was like well we're gonna have to watch a bunch of movies if we can't leave the apartment. And Spencer confidential was the first thing we put on.

We're like, this is gonna, I just side note. I was just looking at this 95 UCLA team, Jr. Henderson, uh, who played on that team as well,

who like also was drafted by the Vancouver Grizzlies in the second round. He left to Japan and became a naturalized Japanese citizen. His name is now Jr.R. Sakuragi. What? Whoa. Yeah. All right, so welcome, sir. Welcome.

I welcome you, my Blasian brother. Okay, I'm done with that. All right. Spencer Confidential. Has nothing to do with the 95 UCLA championship. Or the anime Slam Dunk. That's where that name's from. But, yeah, so, I mean mean it's directed by peter berg he and mark walberg are uh life partners they they work exclusively together it

seems like he kind of he seems like he has a sense of what people like about Mark Wahlberg and is just like everything is oriented around that. What is this about? Who is Spencer and what's confidential? So Spencer is both a no-nonsense cop, an ex-con, and a boxing trainer. All the Boston, all the different Boston movie character tropes that you can have. Wait, sorry.

Ex-cop, boxing trainer? What was the other one? Ex-con. He's just getting out of prison. Oh, ex-con and boxing trainer. And ex-cop. Cop, con, and boxing trainer. Renegade cop.

Beat the shit out of his chief. Got put away for some time because he had it coming, and he admitted to it. That's right, bro. That's right. And loves dogs. Loves dogs. Just to soften the physical violence portions of his personality,

but loves dogs. Just pick random stuff you can't disagree with. Yeah. It's like it's easy to forget all those brutal John Wick headshots. If you remember, it was all because of a dog. That's right. But Boston cops, it turns out, are bad. They're bad guys.

And also bad at being bad guys. They're not good at corruption. There's just like a lot of sloppy stuff going on from the bad guys they're they're just leaving like crime scenes uncleaned up with like blood splatter everywhere and they're just like yeah we did that but we already pinned it on this other guy so we should be good um one of the weirdest sex scenes uh i think so weird i've seen. Wait, what? We watched 365, Denis, and you're saying there's a weird in what sense? I'd say

it's more realistic because of the physical awkwardness of it. Oh, like when Taryn Manning and Eminem fuck in 8 Mile? Yeah, it's a little like that. It's got that thing that makes you feel bad. Yeah, when I was like, yo, the way she licked her hand, I was like, ah! But it's got that thing that makes you feel bad yeah when i was like oh the way she licked her hand i was like but it's not that hot like it's right right right it's

dumber yeah it's very dumb uh it makes you like it's like oh yeah sex is stupid like we we shouldn't well and it reminds you stupid people enjoy it more. It's like, well, they're better at it. Oh, yeah? You look good, too. You look good, too. Or Brady Murphy. Why am I saying Terry Manning? It's him and Eliza Schlesinger throwing each other around a bathroom violently. And that makes me think it was almost written by someone who was a virgin. Because it's very like, yeah.

And then he throws her against the sink like we all love. But he physically looks uncomfortable with it. I don't know if that's his Catholicism coming through, but when he's about to do it, he's like, I don't know. It's just very weird. He's also small. He ain't been right since Boogie Nights. Right.

This movie does not hide the fact that, by the way, he claims he should have never made Boogie Nights. His best movie? His best movie. Although I think his best performance is I Heart Huckabees. That's my favorite. Mark Wahlberg comedic performance. Even though I don't like that movie all that much,

he's so fucking funny in that movie. But he's like, you're the fucking destroyer, man. That's my favorite line. Mark Maron shows up as a reporter uh it's it's interesting that it has comic comedians because it's not like a there are kind of a lot of comedians in it yeah really who else uh mark maron and eliza schlesinger and i know know there are a couple more that they're like very minor. They're like Boston comedians. Marin is like really minor.

Yeah. He like shows up three quarters through and is just like they keep checking in with him, but he doesn't really do anything. Okay. Who is Post Malone? Why the fuck is he on the thing he's a white supremacist

uh gang member who knows uh different stuff and he has probably a total of two minutes of screen time maybe maybe a little bit more this is what they do with those fucking stupid images they serve you like trying to get you to think that like that movie is about there are some really interesting thumbnails that pop up that are completely misrepresent what movies are about just to be like i don't know maybe you'll click on it because of this face so he's only in it for two minutes yeah he's barely in it what's also crazy about this movie is it's like one of it's like it really stretching the idea of using a previous ip like Like, just if something existed before, we can remake it.

Because, like, Spencer is like a 60s TV show and then, like, a series of novels, but no one knows about it. Oh, I had no idea. Yeah, so if you're making something because it was something else before, it's like, who is that for? It feels like, like, are there old people

who are like, I loved the Spencer show from the 60s, and now, finally, they've made a Netflix movie. Good. My favorite TV show. I was hoping Post Malone would be the white supremacist jailhouse snitch. Waiting 40 years for this. All the original Spencer fans. They're just waiting for the right guy to play.

It used to be Don Knotts, and now it's... Right. Finally, our generation's Don Knotts, post Malone. Post Malone. I guess I see why it was successful because Mark Wahlberg, I think Mark Wahlberg is legitimately

a movie star in the sense that he can... He's a big fucking shining star, bro. Yeah, he's a big fucking shining star. People will watch stuff with him because he's in it. I'm one of those people. I like a good Mark Wahlberg action movie. This did not disappoint me.

It didn't blow me away either. It was just right. It was Goldilocks, Mark Wahlberg movie. Perfectly down the middle yeah exactly so it seems like his thing is going to be because they have a final scene where he sees a news report and it's like apparently his next case and it seems like his thing which seems very specific is finding Boston cops who are framed for committing crimes and like exonerating them because like that's that's the plot of this and you're like okay that must be just like must be just this plot but then like as they're having a beer like cheersing the the great

you know, corrupt scheme that they just fucked up. He sees one of his friends getting hauled out of, like, a firehouse. Like, this is a fireman. They're like, he's being accused of, you know, a crime. And the guy's like, I didn't do it. Someone help me. And he's like, Spencer, don't do it.

Don't do it. It's just, it's. He's like, I don't know. I think you got a bum rap, chief. If you look at the video, after he flipped that kid's wheelchair, I don't think he fully curb stomped him. Spencer, what'd I tell you? Quit helping people. Yeah, like legit.

He's in trouble a lot for that. It's really funny. He goes to jail for helping people. He goes to jail by beating people by beating people up. He's always helping people. He just can't help it. And this also exists in a universe where everyone's secretly

really good at fighting or has ambitions to be really good at fighting. There's no non-violent character. Every person you see is just like, yeah, and that little girl selling Girl Scout cookies, yeah, she's a monster in the ring. She's going to destroy you. She killed her scout leader with a capoeira kick.

You wouldn't believe. 5-0 MMA. Upkicked her right in the nose. The co-star who plays Hawk, is he an actual MMA fighter? I didn't know. It seemed like they were teasing that. I didn't bother. I think so think this is the

thing about my rewatch reviews i don't do any research and then our audience yells at me for not knowing stuff i got the sense no he's i was gonna bring that up when i'm from black panther he's uh and us oh shit he just duke yeah he gets like he's like cut in this like yeah like a different person yeah he's he's they make him look giant i like a different person. Holy shit, yeah. They make him look giant. I don't think I knew that's who that was. That's how different he looks. Yeah.

Damn, you're getting big, bro. What's your secret, bro? You in the cryo tank for six hours, bro? That's how you throw a punch, bro. Anyways, five stars. That's how you flip a wheelchair, bro. Yeah. When a fan's like, hey, you Mark Wahlberg, bro? You grab it by the wheel at the bottom, bro.

Get more leverage. The chair will flip, bro. I was never at one point during this movie convinced that he would have been able to do any of these things. He doesn't have such a particular set of skills that you're like, oh, I feel confident that Spencer's got this. It's just like he's

kind of aggressive violently and has a good heart. Like, I don't... Would you agree, Sam? What is his skill? Here's why he is good at this. He takes a beating the entire movie. He gets the absolute shit kicked out of him

in every scene. They beat him up in a bathroom. I remember that scene is like very yeah he gets the shit like brutal like he gets like and he just keeps that is his yeah that's his superpower this whole movie it's about getting everyone whoops his ass in a very obvious way and he'll go right he'll just charge into a group of six guys with batons and just they're like multiple this is what i do i help people there are multiple times that he would be dead if it weren't for the fact that they arbitrarily chose for this uh drug ring he's bringing up to be filled with henchmen who only use machetes instead of guns yeah yeah right

uh yeah it's i don't know i i enjoyed it. It's not a great movie, but also it's not a reenactment of an actual real-world tragedy by Peter Berg and Mark Wahlberg. Oh, it's a great zone-out. Yeah, it's a good zone-out. Airplane movie, basically. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, totally. But the fact that it's been viewed by more people than, like, E.T. is pretty, you know, people, I was going to ask you guys, I was gonna ask you guys something or like,

so this goes counter to like, right. A very, uh, you don't want to play into like too much copaganda, but there's like something really satisfying about a detective story right now, because you're watching someone want to solve a problem,

right? Like no one, no one who can yeah no one who can in real life has wanted to solve a problem like that that has the ability so to watch a detective be like murder is a problem and i'm going to solve this murder it's like really like soothing but he's not a detective bro right he's like an idiot like he's too real. He's too real for the cops. You're the detective. The cops are too pussy, bro. To beat the fuck out of a fucking perpetrator, bro.

It's like, whoa. I'll punch the clues. What? Took that fucking clue out, bro. Anyways, like I said, five stars out of five stars. Great film. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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