The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 149 (Best of 10/26/20-10/30/20)

Episode Date: November 1, 2020

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Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Chelsea Devontes! What's up? What is up? Welcome, welcome. You guys, it was incredible to watch you do your intro live. I felt like I was at a little concert. Thank you so much. You did hold up a lighter.

I appreciated that. Uh-huh. little concert. Thank you so much. You did hold up a lighter. I appreciated that. Started dancing, bought some merch. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for buying the merch, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, for people listening, there is a sale on TeePublic right now, I think until Saturday. So go hook us up and help keep the lights on. Get some TDZ merch, too.

Miles is rocking his pro-social, social distancing club shirt. Yeah, this is going to age very poorly. Pro-social distancing? Yeah, but when I explain to my kids in the ashes of the nuclear winter, where they're like, why do we wear these garments that say Zeitgang on them? I'm like, they're the only free clothes we had when we lost everything. That's right. Chelsea, what have you been up to?

How have you been spending your pandemic for the past month or so? Oh, that's fun. We're just checking in on the last month of the pandemic, which is good. It's good. I've gone through some intense pandemic phases. And this last phase is, I would say this last phase is experimenting

with xanax as a sleeping pill phase okay for me how's it working um it's you know too well that shit's addictive yeah and they're like you shouldn't do this um but i you know i started pandemic with zequil and uh moved into a cbd phase phase. And then I said, it's not enough. Turn it up. Yeah. I can still remember my dreams. Fuck that. Give me some Zans.

Give me some Xanax. I want to close my eyes and open them and it's daytime. And then be confused and have this weird feeling in the back of my mouth. And I'm like, what is that? It's so weird. That does this thing to my throat. Oh, every every cough every sneeze is covid yeah yeah and what how much time do you need to feel like you had a good night's sleep like what's your when are you feeling like you won uh hour when i won i i mean i i love sleep i i would say nine hours is great. And that's something that hasn't happened in maybe seven years.

That's not. I think right now I'm at like if I only wake up for two hours in the middle of the night, that's a good. Yeah, you're balling. Yeah, I'm balling. But I'm on Twitter at 3 a.m. Come find me. You know, I'm scrolling your daytime tweets. What do you do during your witching hour?

You doom scrolling? Doom scroll. Love a good doom scroll. Just turn up the brightness on my phone. So it just really sears the nightmares into my brain. Turn up the blue light on the phone too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really fucked with my brain.

It's noontime brain. Yeah. Are you a waking up in the middle of the night eater do you ever snack oh you know i should start i should start that actually might work well um no i'm not a snacker i'm i'm i'm like a paralyzed i like to just to be paralyzed with fear and i don't want anything to interrupt that time with myself. Right. Yeah. It's pure anxiety. A diet of 100% anxiety. Yeah.

And I read, I read at night, which sounds respectable, but I read celebrity memoirs. So it's just sort of like a neutral, you know? Right. But that's work for you,

right? Cause now it's work. Yeah. Because I started the celebrity book club podcast. But I always read those books. I've been reading them since I was a teenager. It's been my, it's my. Yeah, because I started the Celebrity Book Club podcast. But I always read those books. I've been reading them since I was a teenager. It's been my, it's my favorite literary genre. Don't roll your eyes.

I'm looking at your eyes. I would never. I would never. I have a medical condition that keeps me from rolling my eyes. Oh. Couldn't happen. That's incredible. No, I, yeah, so I've loved these books my whole life.

I genuinely like reading them. But now it is, I guess loved these books my whole life. I genuinely like reading them. But now it is it. I guess it's for work. Right. If it doesn't interfere too much with your underrated, overrated. Do you have a celebrity memoir that is like the gold standard? That's the Citizen Kane of the Citizen Kane of celebrity memoirs. In that it's a movie.

No. In that it's a really long movie movie but we still love and respect it um you know i would say i have a few so gabrielle unions incredible jessica simpson i think it's out there that it's incredible uh it's really great dimmy moore probably one of my favorites if not my favorite and it was reading that and telling us all about producer anna hosnia that was a uh that was an event for our workplace when she was reading that. We had new harrowing stories every day. The most secondhand book club experience I've ever had was when Anna was reading that book,

where she'd be like, oh my God. So y'all, her fucking drinking problem. Like, what? Who are we talking about right now? It's like, I'm sorry. Demi Moore, the book. I caught some real secondhand hate for Ashton kutcher off of anna's reading experience of that book oh yeah based on his uh really uh futuristic ideas of how alcoholism

worked yeah speaking of celebrity memoirs that super producer anna hosnia has gotten us up on uh she is reading or just finished reading the mariah carey one are you in on that one oh you guys please please don't don't how dare you insult me like there was one to ever cop immediately it's the mariah carey one not only did i cop it immediately i forgot i pre-ordered it twice then on the morning of was put on a mask really that's the xanax for sure uh put on a mask risk the pandemic went to barnes and noble was like do you have the mariah carey memoir are there any copies left and they're right on the floor like a seventh grader reading uh the latest harry potter book just read it right there on the floor of barnes and noble right there on the floor

of barnes and noble yeah i i uh and then know, the audio book, not to be slept on. It's one of the best audio books to go on with a book. Yeah, narrating, singing, doing impressions of her mother. I've only read maybe one celebrity biography book. It was Miles Davis's because that one is wild and my namesake. So I figured I'll owe it to Miles Davis to read about that, which is very entertaining. But I think the next figured I'll owe it to Miles Davis to read about that, which is very entertaining. But I think the next one

I'll probably dabble in is one of the managers of Arsenal has one where he's narrating it and I miss his voice. Tell me about your life, Arsene. Please. I love that. Here's the thing though. I like autobiographies. I don't like biographies. I don't want to hear it from someone else's point of view. I want

you to tell me what was going on in your head yeah from your unbiased perspective of how you're like all i care about are biased perspectives yeah yeah what jake is something you think is underrated i was thinking about this actually and this is kind of a bit of an abstract one but i think it's underrated uh going on websites that aren't social media like i was talking to someone the other day and i was like you know mentioning and they're like why do you even have a website like what's the point anymore i was like what like there's so many you know there's so many cool websites still out there but all anybody does is just go on social media now um so i think that's definitely underrated like you can find some cool message boards and stuff i i you know i grew up on the internet man and i i hate the way social media just ring fenced

it all into this like argument but um yeah underrated going on other websites that aren't social media yeah what kind of websites you trafficking like what time you what are you heading to to get off the social media um porn herb no i'm joking um no like all sorts of stuff like i was reading a message board the other day about um bao feng radios and ham radio and stuff like that and it's really nerdy but i was just looking at it and it was so cool to just see them in their own little community completely detached from anyone else like there's no one chirping in and be like oh fucking nerds or like right right right you know vote now or whatever it was just like yeah right like or some nazi or whatever it was just like these guys having some crazy like very uh nerdy conversation about ham radios and i i don't fully understand

most of what they were saying but i guess i just got lost in it you know and i was like oh right great yeah i do that sometimes with just like plumbing uh when if there's like a plumbing issue or like some issue i have to figure out around the house or like finding a uh a manual for something like you go into a forum that's like just super expert and it's like ah i feel like i'm in the 80s all the stuff right yeah yeah there's something really like nice about it sorry yeah or you have a question you go into like a message board and you're like you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna engage this message board and i'm gonna dabble and like everyone's super nice like like doing like the most friendly mansplaining of like an electrical issue you're like okay let me let me walk you through this i'm like damn this motherfucker had 15 minutes to type this like screed but very informative uh and was like very

kind because other places you feel like reddit you go to other places where there's like communities going you ask a dumb question what the what you just fucking find out yesterday about this shit it's nice when you go places and like you want to share the info yeah i had a thing um on twitter i was like asking how to get a radio code for like this shit car that i had and this guy i'd screenshot it somewhere this guy was like kill yourself dickhead okay thanks fucking crazy man i was like oh twitter is not the place to ask anything man no absolutely not i thought one of the best metaphors of the uh of that show uh that movie the social dilemma was them talking about um how like imagine if when you went to wikipedia like the page just changed

depending on what they thought you wanted to read like that's and that's what your social media reality is and that's all anybody uses anymore like that's that's what's right that's what's fun yeah like there are times when i was like i thought i used to be more into like street cars and i'm like that's just because at a moment i was scrolling a bunch of shit and it kept giving giving me like this information it's weird how I found like after watching the social dilemma, trying to realize how much it was informing, like what I was getting interested in, like even very passively, not that it was like, I was getting, you know, radicalized on the internet, but I was like, Oh, I'm more into like, you know, Nissan skyline GTR picks or things like that. And then suddenly,

and now it's like, do you like uh like fantastic throw blankets because i'm i was like cold in my house and i'm like i didn't throw a blanket but i'm like what happened to my skyline content i don't know yeah it's freaky shit's freaky your taste in nissans has always been a little radical uh well you know that's the thing you know i had a cousin in japan who had a skyline people don't know this they don't have them shits in the u.. They don't know the beauty about that car. I mean,

unless you feel like the best The old Japanese ones. I love them. You know, like the old Japanese ones, the boxy ones.

Yeah. Love them, man. Yeah, yeah. See, I see a sports car and I'm like, fuck, that's horrible.

I see one of them old school 90s boxy Nissans. Love it, mate. Yeah, yeah. With you on that. Especially those tail, the circular taillights,

baby. Woo! Should look like a Batmobile on a budget definitely what is something you think is underrated okay look my underrated overrated are basically not one in the same there's two sides of the same coin i don't know what the expression to use but texting and calling okay i think calling is underrated calling your homies is underrated

and texting is fine because i do it all the time. But I also call all my friends. But I hate people that are just like, especially on Twitter, you see it all the time. You're going to FaceTime me without a warning? It's like, yeah, you ugly bitch. Answer your fucking FaceTime. I'm your friend. I don't care what you look like, you stupid ass selfish bitch.

I just want to talk to you and see you. So I'm just kind of sick of this attitude of like, especially right now. Right now is the time to get into calling your friends if you've never been into it. I've been into it since I was a kid. I used to have that Garfield phone. Oh, hey. Oh, shit. Look at you.

I know. I think we got it at a garage sale. But yeah, I love talking on the phone. My friends all know my close friends know that i just love i'll i'll call them all the time not all the time but frequently time flies on a phone call oh my god it's so fun it's like it's time travel like one of my boys called me over the weekend uh and i was like next thing you know he's like damn we were just talking for 50 minutes and he's like i was just calling to tell you about this one thing

and i was like i know it and then this is what happens you start being like remember this what's going on with he what oh my god all right be safe kiss your children for me because you love each other and that's all it is phone calls are such a good way to express the love for each other and i think also because of social media people think that they're seeing their friends you know like oh yeah i've seen you right you haven't talked to this person in so long you need to call each other hearing each other's voices is so nice that's also why people like listening to podcasts it's like they're hearing their friends talk right right to the listener right now especially you uh we are talking to you and uh you rebecca uh we love you i like that you just picked the two most popular names in america yeah jerry and

rebecca yeah rebecca you know i am um i just have to here he goes he can't even get this typical valley behavior um i i i have to just say because there may be listeners who are like me, or maybe I'm uniquely fucked, but time for me when I'm on a phone call goes actually much slower, and I don't know why. That's just probably like- Even a personal phone? Even with a friend, yeah. Wait, are you looking at your watch? You're like, oh my God.

Oh my God. I'm always trying to figure out the like the the nearest off ramp it's bad but i mean not not close friends do you have oh that's that's a complicated question yeah yeah i bet i still like feel your observation like i haven't talked to my homie for like six seven months and like we've just been texting a lot and then i called him for his birthday over the weekend and it's like totally different it's like i forgot how much i love like the sound of your voice now let me get the fuck off this call but here's the thing here's my thing though it's all you need though i'm not saying you got to be on the phone for

an hour to to catch up with people yeah yeah but like yeah a quick call sometimes it's better than like i mean especially especially right now we're not seeing people you know we're texting is time is getting lost through texting you know because it's like you think you're talking to people and next thing you know you're like damn i haven't talked to this person or it feels like you talk to them a lot but really you're not because the time is going so slow in life and then texting is like not it's not sufficient that's all i'm saying it's not sufficient i'm sorry you don't have any close friends that you love chatting on the phone with no it is sad were you ever a phone chatter though jack even as like a kid like you know and be like

get off that phone jack like were you no i had like when i was in i had a girlfriend in fifth grade i told you i called it like wanted to talk for hours on the phone and i would play uh that's how i got good at that game labyrinth with the marble you would just play a lot it's the the most it's totally mindless it's not like a thing where you just listen to some REM play Labyrinth and talk to Leanne I would be on the phone with anybody

for like hours at a time are you watching Cops right now too? and then not talk for like 10 minutes and be like oh shit oh my god what the fuck are they thinking alright anyway that's that old school bonding I love that shit yeah I miss that shit sorry Jack Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Is this for... What the fuck are they thinking? All right, anyway. That's that old school bonding.

I love that shit. Yeah, I miss that shit. Sorry, Jack. I don't not like talking to people. It sounds like you hate talking to everybody. It sounds like you hate talking to us right now. Bro, why do you hate me? Why do you hate me, bro?

The time. The time goes slow. I'm out here just trying to connect. I'm trying to connect with you, and you're just like you're like yeah just let me in but yeah i think uh just even for a quick one just call and say you good hey all right fine hey it's good to hear your voice it hits so different hearing a voice that's yeah it does do you think maybe we're we long for it more because we kind of came up in the time when the only thing we had to communicate with our friends was a telephone.

Yeah. Even before AIM, like, you just will call somebody on the phone. Yeah, but – And I wonder if, like, it's so inbuilt that we still desire that. That's 100% true, which is also true for, you know, our parents' generation. Like, they would – Yeah, because they love the fucking phone. Yeah, they love the phone.

like they would you know yeah they love the phone um and that's why i i really hate that this these younger kids these kids these days they're just not they don't they don't even know how wonderful it is because they they've never really done it you know like it's not the thing that they do i mean remember when three-way calling came out these white bitches tried to trap me into talking shit oh man That was so funny. Like the drama that you can get with phone calls. What do you think of her? You're like, what? That was a thing. You're like, let me tell you. Oh, you came to the right place.

No, no. You know what happened? She said, oh, what did you think about, you know, Mandy? And I was like, oh, yeah, remember what you said? You said that she was a fucking bitch. I do agree with that. I do agree that what you said about her being a fucking bitch. I didn't even I do agree that what you said her being a fucking bitch I didn't even know I was getting set up

but I fucking fucked their friendship up for a little while it was great there you go the whole thing take them all down with you yeah it was fun

it was like better version of that mean girl scene right right but what do you think of Super Producer Anna Hosnier actually

Marcella what do I think of her I think she's fucking great she when we zoomed before i did the first you know quarantine daily zeitgeist and i was so happy to catch up with her i forced her on the on the phone i was like i was like stay on let's catch up bitch and she was just like okay i'll stay on and then we were catching up and we're having fun it was like we were hanging out because i do i love especially with women like it's just so fun to catch up we're so great me and anna kind of look like we're related got that lebanese blood in me so we look like we're

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Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. What is something you think is underrated um underrated i think the back sorry i just finally saw the best yeah i was like whoa like am i in another weird delay where you've already heard her sorry anna just said them wow yeah they're a sight to behold um yeah underrated i think um the bachelor and bachelorette as a cultural clock on america i think i think we could predict elections off of this franchise i think watching the bachelor should replace nate silver um i think it is a more accurate look at what's going on in our country, and it doesn't get enough attention for the work it's doing.

So what have we... Yeah, tell us what you've learned. Did The Bachelor Bachelorette predict the 2016 election? To me, yes. Because I was watching it, and I was like... Walk me through that. Okay, so The Bachelor is one of the number one shows in America. And sort of the way, when Trump was elected, Walk me through that. to them um and so you know in that year it was caitlin bristow was the bachelorette right before the election and this was a season where it was you know when the woman is picking the men she's

in the position of power and that season they brought in another woman and made the men vote on which woman they wanted to pick them so immediately it was like we still shit on women and then her season was all about uh she like has sex with one of the dudes early on and oh yeah and they were like tripping right and she's like yo i'm gonna fuck who i want to well she yeah she's like i'm gonna fuck who i want to and then america was like you're a slut right right i saw the greatest the goat season recap of this one yes and so people lost their minds and then the franchise had to speak out and sort of do a like here's what slut shaming is we don't want to do this to women

and they were you know the whole bachelor franchise was like we don't are we gonna are we gonna allow this and like that's the year that like it's like of course hillary wasn't going to be president caitlin can't fuck a dude on the bachelor without getting death threats right um so and also you know the people on the bachelor are a specific type of person who like they always post a photo for veterans day you know i'm talking about like you can celebrate veterans day in a lot of ways but bachelor candidates are like swimsuit swimsuit me at a restaurant happy veterans day here's a picture of a firework um so they they really tell you like what women are up to and uh that year was like yeah we hate we we hate women we we women hate other women so without spoiling it we got a blue wave coming we got a blue wave coming well but we have to look at our last our last blue wave which was rachel

lindsey the by and far the best human to ever be on The Bachelor. Wow. She's a black woman. She's incredible. She's perfect in every way. Kind of the way we make women who are not white be beyond perfect to get a chance at love, I guess. No one watched her season. It's the lowest rated season of The Bachelor of all time.

And it's one of the best seasons of all time because she's incredible. That was in 2017. And now we're coming out with Tayshia. And then the next dude is a black dude. I think, I think if we're watching the Bachelorette, I think we're going to have a strong blue wave coming our way. God,

please be right. Please. Bachelorette save us. This could be its own podcast. Just an entire podcast that looks at the political implications of the Bachelor and Bachelorette rules. Yeah, listen.

I don't have enough Xanax for him to not win. The whole show is Dale. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Everybody knows. And the thing that I learned over the weekend that Anna showed me, he's a Party City model because the dude is so light-skinned, he would be a Party City model. Wait, like legit?

Yeah, somebody found Dale. Yeah, it's like, you're like, Luke, he's a Roman soldier. And they're like, oh shit, he's a witch man. That is such a specific level of model. Yeah, yeah. Especially when you got a hammock up in a costume when you're like,

yeah. This is also going to be the first time, you know, they call it whoever gets the person the winner as if it's not your love life.

But I think this is going to be the first time that a black dude wins ever. Wow. Yeah. All right. And he's winning with Claire. And now we have

America's black man, Joe Biden, running for president. So, you know, good times. Oh, God. One of my favorite underage of all time. I'll just say that right there. I'm about to talk about these experts who have been predicting that 2020 was like when we would dissolve into civil war basically since 2010 but they've been saying that the civil war will be fought with crank radios yeah just arm yourself with crank radios um no this is just a story but no no actually civil

war is coming so i mean so there there are these experts who, and just watching the election coverage, you can find an expert who's going to predict anything. And these people are definitely in the minority who think that we're definitely headed for a civil war. eerie is that they've been saying around 2020, America is going to be really poised for a civil war for 10 years. That's long before Trump was even on the scene. And yeah, they've basically been saying that inequality is the thing that's going to drive america to some sort of like violent conflict that one of the two experts is in 1994 the u.s military like contracted the cia to help figure out a way to predict if a state was going to like dissolve into chaos um bit like after the black hawk down events in somalia where like that uh where somalia kind of dissolved into a civil war and america felt like the american military wasn't prepared so they contracted this guy this guy was in charge of like creating the model that was uh basically predicting when a state was going to dissolve.

And then he hadn't really thought about applying it to the U.S. And then this other expert kind of reached out to him and they started putting models together to see how the U.S. would fare in one of those. And it is bad. It's not good. Yeah. fair in one of those and it is bad it's it's not good um yeah i mean we have terrible inequality uh in so many different levels in this country that yeah the the the seeds are there for sure it's just like it's interesting sometimes when you look at other places that that fall into civil war down like religious like back like religious ideologies um or like sort of more traditional like you know ethnic uh backgrounds

and things like that whereas like the u.s is like it's it's it's like depends on where you get your news yeah and like what culture like it's more of a cultural thing that's like dividing people yeah and so on one level i'm like yes it's definitely enough that the fracturing is there but it's like are these beliefs like yeah that's what i'm like what what is it going to take for it to really get to that next point uh where someone is beginning to say like oh the reason for this the reason my factory or the reason i have less work is because of democrats because they did x or whatever when a lot of people are starting to kind of like also just kind of start figuring out like it's capitalism and slightly

like the oligarchical class too that there's like what the because both sides do talk about how these rich people are taking shit so they're starting to yeah yeah it's but it's it's yeah but i get it i mean it like when you look at sort of the factors of like sort of the boxes that need to be ticked like we're we've ticked many or like halfway through the check mark of taking a box fully but yeah how are we gonna have a civil war when the one side has all the guns and the other side has no guns right that's what i've always been like i feel like the liberal side of this conflict feels too secure when yeah what you're saying is absolutely true like the police are on one side the the people

with guns are on one side and like the liberals have a mainstream media that was willing to like roll over for the Iraq war like both times. But you know what we have? We have Netflix shows with really strong female leads. Right. And they could really make it. Spiritually, it's going to be. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's also the uptick in like gun registrations

has been coming from the left both sides uh yeah but especially like the exponentially people in the left are also like i don't know like i guess i need to be able to clap somebody if it goes down um but like it's definitely um it the tension is there i don't know if it's going to be like door to door, neighbor versus neighbor, or more like these things where you see these groups like Patriot Front, who their chat logs just came, like BuzzFeed released some of their chat logs, where they're talking about we have to prepare for violence no matter who wins. And there are groups like that that are organized who aren't even aligned with the left or the right. They're purely there for the establishment of, or I guess reestablishing the United States as an ethnostate. And are they going to just fight against local governments? Is it like what we're seeing with Gretchen Whitmer, where people are going to just go after very specifically political leaders? It's who knows? political leader it's who knows uh but i mean the yeah like the sheriff there was a local sheriff who was on board with the gretchen whitmer thing and like that that's the thing i i think that the

degree to which the police are ready to enact violence not just on uh people who are protesting but just ready to do it because they feel like they're being attacked is somewhat underrated. But the BuzzFeed article about these two experts does end on sort of a hopeful note because they said that America was going through a very similar thing in the 20s into the 30s as a lot of Europe was sliding into fascism, The U.S. was flirting with fascism. A lot of Hitler's ideas came from the U.S. But then the U.S. elected FDR, and he was able to enact socialist policies

that I do think, to your point, Miles, if everybody just understands, oh, it's like the inequality is what's causing all of this and inequality can be addressed then i think we're back on the right path but this means believing biden is our new fdr uh or at least he he can hold things off until the new fdr comes along. Or really, it's about putting pressure on him constantly if he's elected so he can cave to the progressive wing because the progressives are more mobilized to try and get out there. You know, like limousine liberal class people are not hitting the streets because their needs are fully met. But there are so many people who are realizing what the stakes are in this country and the pathway there, which is refreshing.

But yeah, it all depends on if, you know, it's just about these competing explanations for your disenfranchisement or your lack of opportunity. And I think some people who are progressive can see that the way this country is set up is meant to benefit a very small number of people while having the rest suffer and i think a lot of people on the right are sort of disconnected from that reality they just see suffering or lack of opportunity without wanting

to explore it much further and just say voice i trust what's the explanation and it seems like even now like those explanations are they're, like, wearing thin a bit. You know, like, they're not... Right. They're not as captivating as shit used to be when you could be like, it's the damn immigrants! Right.

Like, that's kind of, like, dwindling, too. Like, that's not as, like, oh, right, because you can even tell, like, when Trump even says it, he's even, like, tired of being like, and, you know,

these people come here, and they don't pay taxes, and so they're a drain. What biden he's a chinese spy like yeah because i think like racism can only explain shit to a certain point like where you know because racism isn't like a logical thing like it can't up it's hard to really explain to somebody in your heart yeah it's like how do i make that jump though it's like a disney character it's like where okay oh yes my racist i'll open my racist heart to the possibility that this nonsensical explanation is how i will

better my life but yeah when people's needs are met they're less likely to look around in anger at people around them i think that's the bottom line to your point about the thing that can save people is have people's needs met. If you are not starving, you're less likely to be trying to figure out a solution to that that could end in violence or if you need employment or other opportunities for upward mobility. So yeah, who knows? Maybe we'll see.

We just got to wait for AOC. FDR to AOC. Find the new FDR. um so yeah who knows maybe we'll see we just gotta wait for aoc don't forget what's his name robinette joe robinette biden yeah jrb listen don't don't watch the kerry washington anita hill movie uh or you your belief in biden goes down yeah oh i mean I think most people who yeah I mean you can also just read the real history but you could also watch the Kerry Washington Anita Hill movie about it and it'll go down a little easier

right but to that point FDR was also a racist like socialite so you know people can still enact a policy that is policies. But that's America, you know what I mean?

And are we the fools for still believing in it? We're seeing it and yet we're still like, yeah man, this thing could work. I think so. God, I hope we win. Yes! There's articles from, i just happen to come across this like irish article from like the irish times or what one of their

newspapers where they're like everybody's worried about this election they're just like yo what is yeah they should be to these fuckers like they who because yeah it was suddenly you found out the nicest house on the block was had a bunch of racist hoarders living inside and the garbage is spilling out into the neighborhood and you're like what the fuck i thought that house had all their shit they were the ones going around calling people out on their shit right and look at all this bullshit spilling out the front door they don't even know how to hang oh my god and then i think a lot of people are like, holy shit, we believe that bullshit too, to a certain extent.

I feel like it has to feel so good. It's like going, if you went into the Kardashian house and it was just full of rotting garbage, you'd be like, tight. I'm so happy about that. That's what everyone's experiencing now. It's that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif over and over again. that's what everyone's experiencing now. Yeah. It's that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif over and over again, just from around the world. Or I'm sure at a certain level,

it fucks with your whole worldview. If you were buying into the media propaganda that was being pumped out of the US for decades, that you're like, dude, America's this dope-ass place, man, where it's all good. And to a certain extent, I mean, depending on who you are in this country, you have been experiencing some semblance of a civil war with a constant assault on your existence. So it's that's why I like when I look at this, I'm like, honestly, though, there are people out here who really are this.

I don't know how much worse it could get. I guess the difference being some stranger is shooting them in the street or something, but for all intents and purposes, they have no support from, you know, the municipalities from the communities and things like that from fucking law enforcement, whatever you want to call it. So it's all, it all depends on how you're looking at it.

It's like when people say they're like, who's to say that, like, if you say there's no hell, who's to say that this isn't hell right now? Yeah. That is my favorite Instagram quote. no hell who's to say that this isn't hell right now yeah that is my favorite instagram quote yeah who's to say you gotta do that cursive but with that lovely cursive font on like fake parchment paper who's to say this isn't hell who's to say this isn't hell

live laugh scream just like live laugh civil war live laugh register for a gun even if you're a democrat the new york times recently reported on a story uh that we've been checking in with i thought i had my mind made for years now for years literally years we're three years into this so when the Trump administration first started there were accounts of CIA agents and diplomats working in Cuba getting attacked by these like sound weapons they would like get out of bed suddenly a beam of sound would hit them, and they would have concussions, concussion-like symptoms. It was a wild story. People were like, they're using sci-fi weapons on Americans. But then as it went on, the symptoms were so vague, and they all overlapped with symptoms of aging. It was like, my hearing is worse, and my balance is worse.

And it just had a lot of the hallmarks of mass hysteria. The other reason that it had the hallmarks of mass hysteria is the broader context was the Trump administration wanted to pull people out of Cuba because they wanted to just withdraw and do away with all the progress that the Obama administration had made in Cuba. So there's new information that is putting a shred of doubt into my thinking on that that is what was happening, because they're saying that there have been these attacks throughout the world, including in Russia and in China.

And I knew that there had been some in China around the same time. I thought it was all part of a similar, once they heard what was happening in Cuba, they were like, oh shit, maybe the same thing is happening to me. Get in on this. Yeah. But there's also people who were attacked in russia uh like they got out of bed in their hotel and suddenly like they had a concussion even though nothing had

happened to them so now these uh cia agents who were attacked are like pointing out that there is a pretty clear theory that you could come to that this is all Russia, that Russia is doing it in Cuba because they don't want American-Cuban relations to improve. They did it to CIA agents who were undercover in Russia. They did it to people in China because they don't want American-Chinese relations to go well. And the Trump administration is actually ignoring it everywhere that's not Cuba because the Trump administration, you know, let just does not want to have have negative interactions with Russia with regards to any mistreating of America. It would be of a piece with the Trump administration ignoring the fact that Vladimir Putin and Russia was putting bounties out on U.S. soldiers.

So you're saying you're moving from the mass hysteria column because before you were firmly i believe that like when this story first came out i remember you bringing up a lot of other sort of mass hysteria things that had gone on yeah we're all believing something was going on and now you are actually being like all right maybe it's microwave weapons maybe it's microwave weapons from russia i don't know i mean i'm i've always said i'm i'm uh open to like being convinced either way sure sure i think it's it's just a super interesting mystery i think the way that the human mind can create these mass hysterias that are in fact like become physical is really fascinating that's a super interesting subject it happens all the. It's more common and more

devastating and more powerful than people usually give it credit for. But I also think that there's now context that makes it possible that the reason we only had like details on the Cuba thing was because the Trump administration is covering for Russia to try and keep things quiet because Trump is homies with Putin. I had not heard of this. This is very interesting. Microwave weapons.

Wow. Super interesting. I'm just going from pretty firmly in the this is hysteria camp to having one foot that I'd be perfectly willing to believe that it's hysteria and one foot in the it would also make sense to me if Trump was covering up for a bunch of Russian attacks because that just seems to be what he does. I mean, yeah, he was willing to ignore bounties on U.S willing to ignore, you know, bounties on U.S. troops. Yeah, straight up bounties on U.S. troops. How does that, that's another, like, the more distance I have from the final debate, the more I'm like, there's so many things that they could have brought up that Biden could

have brought up. I was just thinking, yeah. Like, he didn't bring up the bounties. He didn't bring up Helsinki. Fr he didn't bring up fracking he didn't yeah like they just Democrats just get themselves like they triangulate themselves into a corner where they just like think that they have to be you know delicate and balanced and um careful about their wording and it's no, just say the thing you think. Yeah, and I think if Biden had brought up

microwave weapons in the debate, I think everybody would have been like paying attention all of a sudden deciding like, what? Microwave, what? To my mind? So yeah, it's a lost opportunity right there. Yeah, I wonder if it's just like, yeah, that's all time wasted on fracking and it's like so funny

how they there's all this concern about there's no middle class and da da da and yet you you know mathematically if you started talking about things like minimum wage or the working class you're immediately going from a topic that maybe only affects like the 30 000 people directly involved with fracking in pennsylvania to millions of americans across the entire country because then you're like oh i don't know what the fuck fracking is but you start to maybe we can talk a little bit more about this minimum wage and how even 15 isn't actually a living wage either and maybe we could talk a little bit more about that because i don't think there's any person unless you're such a craven racist which you mean you're like a trump supporter where about that. Yeah. Because I don't think there's any person, unless you're such a craven racist, which you're like a Trump supporter, where you're going to be like, I don't want to hear about

how minimum wage should be more money so people could actually raise a family on that. I don't want to hear about that. Like, what the? What? Yeah. I remember when my mom would say in the 70s, she and my dad would have these random jobs, like minimum wage. But they paid their apartment.

They got groceries. They were able to have a family. All those things that minimum wage used to do. And now it's nothing. You can't sustain life. So I don't know why people just seem to forget what that used to mean for a family. what that used to mean for a family. It would seem like being the party that cares about people and that wants the majority of people to have a living wage,

like all the people who are being left behind, that they would be the party that wouldn't have to uh carefully choose every word and like use political speak but the democrats i feel like can't get out of their own way a lot of the time i mean 42 of americans make under 15 15 an hour yeah so just what you could you go from a wedge issue niche wedge issue, talking about fracking, and you start talking about minimum wage a little bit more, talking about, hey, people, I understand the pandemic's hard. I understand you might have a child. Actually, you should probably be making at least $25 an hour if you are a single parent trying to survive in a metropolitan area but you know it's it's all this whatever i mean i think that's

the i think that's because both parties are just so ill-equipped to begin talking about those issues because they all all those roads lead back to the donor class that actually need to be taxed more uh and need to be earning like making less profit so it's just always about you know let's talk about minimum wage and then we'll just leave it there and then have arguments over like what's what what a relative living wage is based on where you live in the country rather than like addressing the need of Americans to be able to live in a way that their labor is compensated in a, you know, proportional manner, proportionate manner. Yeah, right. Like they haven't raised the minimum wage in 11 years. compensated in a in a you know proportional manner proportionate manner yeah right like they they haven't raised the minimum wage in 11 years that's never happened since it was first established in 1938 congress has never let it go unchanged for so long like how how do you not just like be like yeah the this is this is the problem we will change that this guy hasn't and refuses to

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And we're back. And let's do a little brain bleach news before we get back into some election bullshit quick breath of fresh air heinz is giving away tomato blood ketchup via tiktok that's a headline on the tag that is it's also a sentence that's definitely never been said before that's i mean like that is the most 2020 headline that is not a doom based headline you know what i mean like that is the most 2020 headline that is not a doom-based headline you know what i mean like normally you're like like is your vote transforming into a wuhan bat and biting your elderly relatives i would also be like that sounds like a 2020 headline

but this the idea of yes pretty self-explanatory heinz rebranding ketchup as tomato blood and using uh tiktok to get the buy-in of gen z and i was just i mean the bottle looks i'm not gonna lie the bottle looks cool i actually prefer the tomato blood aesthetic than our typical ketchup thing but they're not like thinning the ketchup or anything if it's actual blood consistency, I would be. Well, I would have to check that out as opposed to it just being a label. Like, who knows? Could you handle if it was less viscous but had the same flavor? If it was the consistency of like Cholula?

Yeah. Cholula is kind of a viscous but not quite like thick you know pudding thick as ketchup is yeah i don't know we'll have to the one thing i think about is like this is such a non-controversial thing or it's like oh tomato blood cool heinz like what would happen if heinz got political you know i mean because like there's such an american brand like you could be racist as fuck or you know so left that you're you fucking left earth uh that like like heinz is just accepted like yeah that's that's ketchup here that's ketchup i'll be straight up and down the middle that if they were like instead of tomato blood they're like what about this fall labor blood to bring awareness to the disposable attitudes we

have towards certain occupations in the pandemic like would republicans full-on revolt they have to go they have to go hunts like that's like i feel like they have a line i feel i do feel like that would be the one brand that they would just go i mean we can't we can't do that come on but could they like but what if you're like don't you have hines in your restaurant instead of nikes but come on man i got i can't i can't is there is there a brand that could get political and america like conservatives would really have trouble being like i can't fucking put that down budweiser that down bud heavy bud light but yeah they'd probably just switch over coffee they don't give a fuck about right um like and i'm sure if it was there's enough truck makers that you could just pivot from one truck company the other one right but i feel like like ford and yeah you would need like chevy dodge and ford to all like form like a mecca like yeah megazord of like right

and they're showing like immigrant workers you know i mean who are like actually doing the hard work in this country and being like to the real workers of this country we salute you what the fuck is that like we are spending more money to like into programs for job security and trade school for people for a better tomorrow then because i know like people truck people are loyal as fuck you know what i mean like truck i know people like especially like a silverado and stuff i know some people who's like their dads were silverado people and their kids are silverado people and they still just have this thing but i don't know i'm. I'm just trying to create a bad time for consumers who like to vote with their dollars.

Coke v. Pepsi. I feel like that would be... They'd make that switch. How would that look in Georgia, though? Yeah. If Coke got super woke. Woke Coke. Woke Coke.

Oh, shit. Woke-a-cola classic. I feel like I hope they're listening and like scribbling down some ideas because some of this shouldn't spark. Woke-a-cola. Yeah, they're like, okay. Some of this shouldn't spark.

They actually need to do it. It'll boost their stock numbers. Rather than Coke Zero, how about Woke Heroes? Where we shout out the Woke Heroes. Coke Zero salutes the Woke Heroes. Could you put down... Do you like pepsi more than coke are you coke pepsi people does it matter to you it's all the same to me yeah cola is kind of the same yeah if there's anything i'd be like i'm only pepsi in that pepsi like if

there's pepsi at a restaurant there's a better chance that it's gonna have mountain dew that's that's the only that's that's when your eyes light up yeah yeah well you know what i just thought of if the opposite happened it's of like candy corn or something like terrible that everyone hates like came out as like hating muslims and all the conservatives are like i'm only giving out candy corn this year right and you And you're finally like, you know what? I could mean this more, but keep that. Go ahead. Just keep that one. That's all you guys. That's all you guys.

That's for you. Didn't need that. We're talking Krav Maga. Is that how it's pronounced? Karad. Krav Maga. Krav Maga. Yeah.

The Israeli self-defense system where it's the most. Yo, like when you take a class there, I just remember it's all these former idf dudes goons who are like just work as bouncers in la now and like they're in their off time they they're like being like this is what i'm gonna teach you okay every fucking thing every context of like a self-defense setup the dude was describing assault like he'd be like right you know okay so this next one he's like hey come here bro so let's say you're with your girlfriend out and this guy's talking shit he wants to kiss your girlfriend or something so you're gonna walk up to him and you're gonna do this and you're like whoa what is this like this yeah and i'm like whoa and none of these is a thing happening where someone is confronting me it's you're saying i'm someone every time that every situation was like maybe this guy's talking shit to you like would be the start of how you

would break out of a choke yeah and you're like what is any of this dang that that's the that's the krav maga class i took that i was telling you guys about was it yeah were they were they really raising the stakes in your class oh yeah well because it was for women and it was sort of like krav maga will save you from your sexual assault that is faded in your life. You're going to get out of it. And so they'd be like, here I am. I'm coming in for the rape. What are you going to do?

Oh, my God. And you're like, now? For real? Or like, yeah. But what I realized in that class was that I've got about 17 minutes in me before I'm done. They'd be like, run around the room, throw some punches. And at 17 minutes, I was like, I can't. I'm tired.

I've got 17 minutes until. 17 minutes is long. We still have to work on the pluck. The pluck. This is what happens if someone chokes you from the front. Here are your nine blocks against knife attacks. Yes, exactly. Or whatever they all were.

I remember I had to do all those things. That was all when I was a very angry teenager uh and i just wanted to learn how some men never become not angry teenagers no yeah they become self-defense teachers exactly um anyway shout out to therapy you know what i mean yeah that's the other it's the other path i no longer i no longer need physical violence to express myself. I just heard, I think it was on My Favorite Murder, that one of the pressure points you can use when defending yourself is reaching into your assailant's mouth and pushing under their tongue. Oh, yeah.

That seems like you would lose there's one under your nose too really right here yeah and then behind your jaw you do these finger screw type things behind your jawbone uh you can get if somebody in a finger hold like this and you press up on their index finger you could fucking do some steven seagal shit to somebody like that. Wow. Welcome to Miles' aggro corner from 2002. Can I take your self-defense class for ladies, Miles? Yeah, now it's just so chill though.

It's like ineffective because I'm like, I've turned a corner. I'm like, you know, honestly, like it's just about like surrounding yourself with awesome people. That's the best defense.

But will you be able to forgive yourself? Oh no. All right. That's the best defense. But will you be able to forgive yourself? Oh, no! All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.

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