The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 159 (Best of 1/19/21-1/22/21)

Episode Date: January 24, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Uh, yeah. So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Uh, well, last night I searched what is the emoji symbol for like can i say pussy or vagina whatever i forget am i allowed to say that hold on let's take a quick break and figure this let's sidebar because i know eggplant is the dick emoji right and i'm making valentine's day merch hey you guys can buy them at teresalee.com.com.com. But I have a joke that's like, thank you for the dick. But I'm doing it where you can circle different ones.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So you can circle. I want to do like big pussy, like heart, brain, whatever. But I was like, I don't know if there is one. And I looked it up and I couldn't figure out like a consensus. So I just put a picture of a kitty. Yeah. What do you guys think? I've heard taco, but that feels demeaning to me yeah i don't like tacos weird i like i mean the kitty that's
Starting point is 00:03:32 that's probably the the best way to go at it as opposed to taco which is fucking gross and like yeah i feel like it reminds me of that uh pink is like taco place which always has oh fratty then they have one at the century city mall yeah like back in the day and I was like I remember someone's like yo we're going to pink taco I'm like you are you are enjoy miss me with that aggro bullshit places like the tacos suck yeah I'm trying to think like because i know on the internet like you know on like you know the shade room or like gossip blogs whenever they like i feel like the the cat face one is used a lot and then the other two but then the peach is used for a butt right i have the piece in there i put the butt in there i put brain which you
Starting point is 00:04:22 can interpret either way you know uh you could interpret interpret it the Nicki Minaj way or as intelligence. Where's the Georgia O'Keeffe emoji? Yeah, that's what I was like. Maybe there's a flower, but I don't know if it's universal. So I just put kitty. This sounds like something that needs to be remedied. I think you need to work on the emoji. I mean, look, in the flower department, our options are limited.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Pussies are just also different. You know, maybe it's like hard to categorize them because they're all just unique. Maybe it should be like a snowflake or something. Yeah. Wow. Snowflake. Yeah, I'm just trying to, yeah. Maybe that's something we need to push for.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Sure, yeah. Alex Schmidt and Jamie Loftus need to combine their forces of trying to get new emojis being made and just be like, what is the thing we can all agree upon for this genital representation? Yeah, I'm behind that. Kitty, Taco, are there any other options that we... So if you look it up, they do have sets that are not the Unicode ones. So there's a lot of like actual vagina emojis which is like not what i wanted um but yeah those were the ones i saw but i guess i guess we have less
Starting point is 00:05:34 need to be uh sending those emojis i'm not sure i think it's cute to have a little emoji for it but yeah you get into weird territory like is it is it the cherries? Is it a, is it the oyster? Oh no. On the half shell? Ah! That oyster above the shrimp? Like that's a little aggro.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Or is it like the, the meat bone with the bone through it? No, no, no. It's all. There is like the, the third eye,
Starting point is 00:06:00 which I kind of like, cause that like the evil eye or whatever, the protecting eye. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I could go wrong with that. It's because that's like the evil eye or whatever, the protecting eye. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I could go wrong with that. It's about like keeping out the evil, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Sure. I think we need some Georgia O'Keeffe art historians on the case to be like, this, this will do. I was Googling. I've been really homesick recently, and so I was looking up local business drama in my area. There's. So the best,
Starting point is 00:06:29 the best, well, not the best. I mean, it's, it's, this is all upsetting. Like business drama or like consumer beefs with the businesses.
Starting point is 00:06:37 There's just always, I feel like I, it happens everywhere, but in the Boston ones always really make me laugh of just like weird small business drama. And the best one there's like this is a pretty well-known one at this point. But the Cat Cafe in Boston that was like run by a woman who didn't care about cats and was like there. So I Googled cat cafe drama Boston, and that brings you to a slew of incredible short histories of just it was just a local Massachusetts woman who wanted to start a cat cafe. But guess what? She didn't know how to take care of cats. Cat lovers immediately got angry at her.
Starting point is 00:07:25 she just continued to double down and it was just like real new england mom on facebook energy where she would post these like screeds from the cat cafe page being like everyone who thinks i don't know how to take care of a cat is a hater and like it was and it went on for years and years right right when it's like all these people she was working with were like you shouldn't be running a business about cats uh and so it went on for years my brother used to live near the cat cafe so i relived that drama and then also the puppet theater i used to work out in boston was embezzled from by its own managing director so i was catching up on that drama there's just my my search i'm i don't know my algorithm is is fucked for life what a mix of good and bad news you just hit us with there's a lot going on yeah on on my google page how much can you embezzle out of a puppet theater all of
Starting point is 00:08:19 it i guess uh like is there a dollar amount to what had happened or no they it was kept pretty quiet it was i was i don't know why i i was just like on one and i like contacted all my boston media contacts to be like why aren't people reporting on the puppet embezzlement um and then i did a bunch of this is like a month ago i did a ton of research i sent it to my friend and she was like um i'll see what we can do. But it's just there waiting to be connected. You just got to go through it. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:08:51 What kind of person do you need to be to embezzle from a fucking independently run nonprofit puppet theater? That's the worst fucking kind. I feel like you've got to be a bad guy in a Muppets movie. Like that's right. That's the premise from a puppet right i was so upset about it and i was like people in boston should be so mad that people stole for someone stole from a puppet theater but it was like someone at the top was just like taking money out of the out of the cash box like what was your connection to the puppet theater
Starting point is 00:09:22 just like one you went to? Or were you involved? Well, she used to be a vessel for me. I used to work there. I interned there in college. And then I worked there for a little bit. It's a great puppet theater. It seems like they're going to be okay. But I'm still on their email list.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And a month and a half ago, they sent out this wild email that was just an update on the embezzlement scandal. I was like, oh! Because usually it's like, do you want to watch shadow puppets on Zoom? And I'm like, no. But so there's, you know, just a little a little bit of local drama to make me feel closer to home. Nice. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are. So Ma, I recently searched, is Tell Me Who I Am a true story? Do you know the documentary, Tell Me Who I Am? I think it's pretty recent. And on Childish, my parenting-ish podcast, my co-host Greg Fitzsimmons
Starting point is 00:10:20 mentioned having seen it, and he didn't want to tell me any details, but it was like so amazing. And he's like, just go watch it. And then in an Instagram comment, a listener was like, I've been listening to Alison for years and I think she, I know her sensibility and I think she 100% shouldn't watch it. It's like the worst possible thing happens to kids. It would, it was too much for me. It would be too much for her don't watch it so i thought okay i won't i'll just go google the plot summary which is i am i'm i cannot handle horror i can't handle things that are super disturbing like i have a dark brain that goes to those places anyway i don't need outside help so what i do is i won't watch anything awful i just read this like i couldn't, I could not get past
Starting point is 00:11:06 two episodes of Handmaid's Tale, but I know the entire synopsis because I go torture myself by reading about it on Wikipedia. So I went to Wikipedia. I now know what Tell Me Who I Am is about. And I don't know whether I should say or not. I don't really think it's a spoiler because everything I encountered that gave a description about it says it, but it just, I won't know whether I should say or not. I don't really think it's a spoiler because everything I encountered that gave a description about it says it. But I won't. But I read it and I was like, this is so awful. And I always, like, there's a part of me that's very naive. Like, it's so awful. This can't be a true story. This just can't. So I was hoping to find something that says that it's a work of fiction or like it's a someone made it up. It's a hoax. But all I kept seeing was that it is a true story. And that is my Google search history.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, that is dark. I'm looking at it right now. And it seems like this is like some someone's in an accident, loses their memory, and then they're relying on their twin sibling to help fill in the gaps. So there's this set of twins and one of them gets into a motorcycle accident and is in a coma and comes out of it and doesn't remember anything except like very, maybe like a few very recent memories. Doesn't remember anything. maybe like a few very recent memories doesn't remember anything and is and so his twin brother is filling him in on everything you know their childhood and everything that happened up till now and paints a pretty rosy picture of it but then it turns out should i should i say it i don't know if it's a spoiler or not i just know broadly i think that there's a dark family secret it turns out that there was a very dark family secret yes that involved the two boys
Starting point is 00:12:45 and that the twin covered that up and in doing so i believe it was pretty healing for the one who who had the memories because he was able to create this fantasy of a good upbringing. But then when their mother dies, the twin who had the memory loss stumbles onto some things and is like, did something bad happen to us? Oh, wow. And then it all, and then,
Starting point is 00:13:16 and I did relate, I do relate to this, like goes on this deep, becomes obsessed with finding out the truth of what really happened. Yeah. I haven't seen it i've only read about it that's how i would be though yeah i get very obsessed with like i need
Starting point is 00:13:30 to know the truth of something it's that i can't watch it it's a narrative kind of uh idea that we've that we were talking about kind of resonating especially recently where um and obviously this is a documentary and i was talking about it in the context of like more fictional movies like memento where people are intentionally like trying to avoid reality um and yeah this seems like one of one of those sort of trying to avoid the reality of of one's own memories that I think we're seeing a lot of in popular culture. Obviously, we see a lot of it in the news with Trump supporters and Alex Jones people and shit like that. But I think there's this question of what is the value of living in
Starting point is 00:14:21 reality if reality is upsetting and disturbing yeah i think the matrix is probably the more central uh idea is or the more central text for like that choice between do i want to wake up to a reality even if that reality is less pleasant than just living in the lie. Right. And all the followers of Q who've been red pilled to the max man, if I have those pill colors right, they of course believe that the rest of us are choosing to stay asleep to the reality that they're aware of. And that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And now they're having a reckoning too. Right. They're having, they're realizing there was a post legitimately on like, can I blue pill back? But they do it. I think what they're discovering is that they they did choose the blue pill, like like with everything with the Trump administration. They have chosen the to use like the antonym uh like the exact opposite of the truth and you know or with trump a lot of times it comes in the form of accusing the other side of what they're doing and with the red pill people when they took the blue pill that told them like this is your reality
Starting point is 00:15:40 uh is that you are the hero and everybody else is against you and there's a vast conspiracy uh trying to hold you down and not like that you are very privileged compared to a lot of the people around you uh that they they decided to call that red pilling when it's the exact opposite of that um yeah yeah well hopefully there's a way back for people because it seems like i'm i'm actually surprised after looking more and more like on these forums and things that they're way they're the group of people who are into the conspiracy theory who are like legitimately trying to be like guys i'm pretty we've been had yeah and we actually need to start dealing with that because like there was a one
Starting point is 00:16:27 where this the dad wrote he's like i've fully just you know uh scuttled my relationships to my kids in the pursuit of what i thought was the truth and he's like i have a lot to do because i'm realizing i've really massively cut down like i don't know what my future is because in search of this conspiracy theory i've let my family go and now i realize that this is empty i actually need to make amends to have my family as part of my life because that's truly what matters right now and we've been so i mean there's all kinds but it's interesting when you see that sort of being expressed you're like shit yeah people need to adapt the 12-step program for QAnon, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:06 People coming out of the Q thing. I also think that it's probably a sampling error a little bit in the sense that people who have chosen to just double down and bury their head in the Q version of things, there's really not a way to express that in language that doesn't sound just completely on its surface inherently contradictory and so the only people we're hearing from are the ones who have reconciled the fact that they were living a lie yeah well yeah because then there's arguments yeah yeah totally but you know so central i think to a lot of this q stuff is this idea that they've discovered that children are being abused all. And it goes up to the, the highest levels in the land.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And, and I know that that's the thing, like I'll see, um, uh, friends of friends who are mothers who are not conspiracy theorists, as far as I know, start posting stuff on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I'm like, Oh my God, they're getting sucked into it. Stuff about traffic. I mean, yes, of course, trafficking of kids and people exists, but I can just tell, like, these are Q memes that you are not aware that you're reposting this stuff. And it's like, are the ones who are sort of waking up to having been had, are they realizing that all of that stuff was not true in
Starting point is 00:18:26 the way they thought it was no i think because that's probably an interesting entry point because it's real and there's enough on in the real world to indicate that there's validity to those claims like of powerful people who abuse children it's just not the ones that they think it is right it's when they go into this other thing of like this, you know, emergency broadcast system and how the like tribunals were going to occur on the news. And that's how Trump will stay in office. It's like a lot of I think those are the things that became like the loudest parts about QAnon and things like that over the last few months. And I think those are the elements that are like now they're really like, holy shit i was really into that part but fuck none of it happened i mean it's isolating that mothering or parenting instinct of like caring for your child and i mean it's the same thing
Starting point is 00:19:19 as the anti-vaxxer thing it's like they figured out a way to uh and didn't figure it out it's just almost like an evolutionary natural selection thing where this thing that preys on that very specific kind of universal feeling and kind of removes it from context like yes it's basically like parent caring for your child porn where it's like removed and just like sort of made very front and center and kind of cheapened so that that's like, you're just like playing on that emotion completely out of context in a way that's manipulated. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:24:28 policies over the last century or so have just been an actual manifestation of white supremacy because it's it's because it's just like well i'm not racist i just think the election was stolen or this has nothing to do with race you know know what I mean? Because whether they are because they are so ignorant that they cannot see the complexity of what they're caught in or they are just just that willfully racist and are like, oh, yeah, but I'm going to be a little deceptive about it and use these little word games to dance my way out of actually saying, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm old school. I don't think I don't think black and brown people or anybody who's not of my certain culture to prosper. So James Lankford, I think, is a good example because he's doing the thing where he's pretending like he doesn't know what any of this is.
Starting point is 00:25:16 He signed on at first to that sedition caucus letter to be like, you know, I'm going to be one of the senators who's going to fucking try and reverse the course of this election. And I will use my vote to do that. And then once the shit went down, he reversed course. He was like, he was one of the few people was like, okay, that was a little too much. A little too much. Okay. I see what I think. Even for me, that was a little, that was a bridge too far, which is interesting. Yeah. So even though he tried to, at the the last minute find his spirit and soul, a lot of people were like, I don't think you can escape this, especially the black people of Oklahoma. They were very upset, as a lot of just Oklahomans were as well, just realizing what their senator was participating in essentially making like you know as much as he would say we just got to make sure the election was fair or we have to restore the people's faith
Starting point is 00:26:11 in elections it was just about making sure that minority rule was still effective you know because for a lot of these people watching georgia go full blue face bust down fatiana uh without protesters and violence and things like that and it just simply off the strength of you know people of color getting like maneuvering out maneuvering voter suppression that was shocking they're like wait we have all this shit set up so we can keep it at least gridlocked but now that it's happening it's like there's a bit a sense of panic because that is starting to erode the effectiveness of that is starting to erode as more people are also starting to be like oh i have voting power so if this was all about taking away the votes of these
Starting point is 00:26:55 marginalized people so because of the pressure he was under from people being like disgusted with his vote he puts out this sort of deflective, you know, I didn't realize what was going on letter quote. What I did not realize was of all of the national conversation about states like Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Michigan was seen as casting doubt on the validity of votes coming out of predominantly black communities like Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit. After decades of fighting for voting rights, many black friends in Oklahoma saw this as a direct attack on their right to vote for their vote to matter, and even a belief that their votes made an election in our country illegitimate. I can assure you, my intent to give a voice to Oklahomans who had questions was never also an intent to diminish the voice of any black American. Was never also an intent to diminish the voice of any black American.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I should have recognized how what I said and what I did could be interpreted by many of you. I deeply regret my blindness to that perception. And for that, I am sorry. The Tulsa massacre is 100 years old this year. I'm so sorry that you feel that way. Yeah. That's what he said is I'm sorry you feel that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 That's what that apology was. I'm sorry that you saw that for that but i'm gonna say it's not um somebody smell gas what was going on it's uh i'm just curious what this blind spot like do you think you know even tori in your work encountering interacting with all kinds of people ideologies and racism what the split is of people who are like you know actual truly out here to ride for racism and the ones that are so ignorant and caught up in this like team sports mentality that they just can't budge from beginning to see any nuance of anything i I don't know. I'm always trying to figure out what the, what it is with us. Senators.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Like, no, that's all bullshit. You know exactly what you're doing. Like, I'm like, okay, no,
Starting point is 00:28:53 no, no, no. Cause you're the smartest racist. Yeah, exactly. You know, it really,
Starting point is 00:28:58 it really depends. I think it varies a lot from, from place to place. Especially, I think that they're, you know, Oregon kind of has this reputation as being like wildly progressive and it's it's not right like we've got we have plenty of people here who want to disenfranchise people um and you know even people like on the east side
Starting point is 00:29:19 of the state they're like well you're not voting the way that we want and we should be able to be in charge even though there's fewer people here so So we're just going to go join Idaho. Like, that's not how this works. Right. But I mean, I think it really just kind of depends. But there are definitely I think the people like the higher up you get, the more people are. They know what they're doing. Yeah, right. Of course. Right. Like the like it it's, it's, I would say people kind of like on the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder,
Starting point is 00:29:48 right. The people that are used by the white people that are used by powerful people to like oppress, do the oppression work for them. So they don't have to get their hands dirty. Like, I don't think that most of them know explicitly. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I think if, if you sat down with them, you might be able to get them to a point where they're like oh okay i see what you're saying like i see how this adds up i disagree with you still and i still i you know these are still my values because i see like the one thing especially in looking at like you know a lot of right wing chatter on the internet and just seeing how that conversation is going a lot of them have arrived to the point of just saying uh well every if if we don't agree with them we're racist right you know what i mean and that's yeah and like
Starting point is 00:30:31 and everything's white supremacy because it is but it's almost like how do you talk to someone who you're like you know it's like it was like it's like intervening with someone sometimes you say drinking problem and it's like the alarm like they that can't be heard or whatever it is yeah it's like a shutdown and and so no meaningful communication can occur at that point and i'm also curious like is there because i also understand if for them they're they've completely been robbed of any context nuance that it to them is just saying everything they say is just that what it isn't because i'm not i've never participated in a lynch mob or i've never said this so like that's just getting fired up without like so i'm that's why i'm always just like i
Starting point is 00:31:15 don't even know how a corner can begin begin to be turned if i don't and then it's almost like and i'm not trying to coddle racist people but i'm like is there another way that it has to be explained to even begin for something to like thaw or begin to melt but i don't know that's why i'm just like yeah i'm not really sure because it's like we do i mean working class white people and working class people of color have so much to make common cause over right like they deal with so many of the same issues. They both have a government that doesn't give a fuck about them. Um, and like their needs and how they're going to pay their bills and get
Starting point is 00:31:52 healthcare. Right. So it, I think that I don't think that they're going to hear it from people of color. Right. I really don't. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And they don't, they feel very sensitive. I think fairly, um, about being talked down to and and like condescended to because they feel like rich people already do that to them um and so i think that that was kind of i think that was like a big part of why they rallied behind trump was they were like oh he's gonna be a bully for us right like he's gonna throw people around for us um
Starting point is 00:32:21 and so yeah i mean i think that there are conversations that can be had, but I don't think that those conversations starting out, like, I think that's white people work, essentially, is what I'm saying. It's like, hey, look, like, we're all getting screwed over if we all just work together on this one issue, right? And that's what's been most effective, like, at least in the research that I've seen in the US, is that, you know, you don't have to do like the party thing, just find a bunch of people who are affected by one single issue and make that the thing that you focus on. You have to be on board with whatever it is, right? Like labor rights or minimum wage or, you know, healthcare access. And you just focus on that one thing that,
Starting point is 00:32:58 that can actually get people to work together. Um, as opposed to being like, well, you just need to be a leftist right or you need to be more progressive or you're just because it's like or whatever right because it's like you're what they hear is you're too stupid to know like what's best for you and while we do i mean i do believe that they're voting against their own self-interest right um i think that we also have to engage with the fact that you know if you feel like someone has said to you, well, you're stupid, but actually sit down because I need to tell you what's what. Like people aren't really going to go for that. I think that there has to be. I think, yeah, I think it's white people work. I think that those conversations had to be had.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I don't know that, again, it's going to be like a political party thing. But I think on issues you can get people who would identify as conservative to like make common cause right with more progressive ideas because like that anger of not having shit or feeling like your bills are adding up or whatever is being re-projected onto this like fucking schumer shit and then like at a certain point like it's gonna hollow you out because you can own but without actually addressing your material needs that potentially could be solved through better policy right right and a lot of it too is they see they're like well you know minorities don't deserve assistance right and like why should they be able to cut in line i mean this is going to be
Starting point is 00:34:22 the exact same thing with the covid vaccine like well how come those people get to cut in line like what are they more important than me um so i think you know there's very much that attitude of like well like undocumented people that's not what they say or stealing all of our health care so i'm opposed to universal health care because i don't want illegals to have it like that's that's an argument that's a very common argument right um and it's one of those things youals to have it. Like that's an argument. That's a very common argument. Right. And it's one of those things you have to explain. It's like this isn't as it's not zero sum. Like health care isn't just because someone who is undocumented gets health care doesn't mean you don't also get health care.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Right. Exactly. So, I mean, yeah, I think if you make it about the issue, like a specific issue instead of about politics, you get a lot farther with that. I think it's just gotta be, gotta say everything for everyone. That's all. I'm honest. You know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:35:10 cause it's true. That's why I'm like, it's this team sport shit. The second it's attached to this person's a Democrat, this person, because it happens. It's all over the place. I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:21 yes, like it's, but this is what it is, you know, like, cause this is, everyone's retreating to their corners. But yeah, i feel like if there is a way to just like just to speak to the human exist your condition the existence the lived experience of being a person being like more food you know i mean fucking free food what free food yeah fuck
Starting point is 00:35:43 you for who for who anybody you need food come through bro we got it for you what do you need what you need what you need we got it what you need we got it party you know what i mean and you'd hope but again because it's a zero-sum game it's almost like that conservatives look at even generosity as still being like well it's finite right you know there's no possible that's what they're told by their political leaders quote unquote is that if other people get some that's less for you yeah and so we're not going to give anybody anything like that's the that's the part they don't say is like okay so like he's ignoring all the massive wealth hoarding they're like oh don't look at all this wealth hoarding happening over here.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's the same conversation anybody has. Most people, I think everybody has if they ever ask for a raise at their job. Well, you know, if we did that then or I just got to see there's just not enough right now. You know what I mean? And if you were talking to a CEO, they're not having those conversations. We'd be like, well, could they make less? And then wouldn't that create the money?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Isn't that a way to, to do that for me? Oh, well, first of all, what the, shut the fuck up. We're never going to do that, which is sort of like where we're at. Like we don't even have the imagination as a nation to be like yeah but what about you though you got it you got it yeah so run your shit you know what i mean because we don't got it because because we're tired of being told hey uh you know if uh you know because if i do that then this guy's gonna want eyes for their kid and then the other person wants a neck brace you know it's like yo fuck that but you live in a fucking golden whatever the fuck uh you know
Starting point is 00:37:31 it's yeah what we hope the discourse can begin to like more people have that imagination to be like it's all the things are possible it's just that like we got to stop acting like you want elon musk to have you know 11 billion dollars and that's like his right to do that yeah or you know jeff bays any of these fucking people just that those graphs showing how how these billionaires made out over the last year like would i don't know how you look at that and think that's cool good for him yeah like that's cool that's cool that the people who already had more money than they could ever spend in their lives um like are doubling their their net worth or adding increasing it by 40 30 yeah and and then look at what's happening because it's true they're drinking our fucking milkshake. Okay?
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's what it is. They're drinking our fucking milkshake from all the way across the room in their mansions. And then we're still over here fighting each other, not realizing. You're drinking the milkshake. Motherfucker, they're drinking the milkshake over there. The billionaires are. And they're out there fucking drinking so much of it. They're in a great much of it they got us out here milkshake yeah pointing fingers at each other when no one has the ability to drink the milkshake
Starting point is 00:38:50 anyway this paul thomas this paul thomas anderson metaphor brought to you by a stoner bro you know god hey look i gotta give it up for my valley brethren in terms of like the the racists who felt empowered and like legitimized by the trump presidency there does seem like there's like an a uh very immediate reaction of either crawling back in their holes or being like but what what happened like they're you know they're still the people we we talked about how q isn't going anywhere q anon isn't going anywhere but there are like a lot of posts from people in the q forums who are like i mean there's legitimately a post that says huh i guess we were wrong like there's a guy says fuck this sham i want to puke like it just i couldn't i couldn't stop reading these screen caps from
Starting point is 00:39:51 q forums of where's the damn storm what happened why didn't the plan work the number one post on the q anon like what their version of Reddit is just guys? That's beautiful. It's also nice to see or kind of heartening to see that deplatforming really does do something to properly deplatform.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'll never get over how long it took all the social media billionaires to deplatform Trump, but it's still I'll never get over how long it took all the social media billionaires to de-platform Trump. But it's like had an immediate effect. Yeah, it really has. It's and it's I mean, didn't what's his name? Watkins made a post as well. Who's Watkins?
Starting point is 00:40:38 The Ron Watkins. The guy who people say is Q. Is Q. Yeah, yeah. And he's just like, well, the vibe of the post was like, QAnon was, it was more about the friends we made. Yeah, he legitimately said QAnon.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I actually have it here, Ron Watkins, major QAnon booster, who some suspected of being Q himself, posted a note of resignation on his Telegram channel and his quote, we have a new president sworn in
Starting point is 00:41:10 and it is our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution as we enter into the next administration. Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years. What a piece of shit trying to act like it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Literally the friends we made along the way. Yeah. But also now to be like, let's respect the Constitution. I don't want any liability here. The words I'm saying is play nice now, even though we were fucking gassing y'all up on this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I love also in that screen grab you have from that Q forum where someone was like, do any and all federal agents browsing this website. Every post I have ever made is satire. They're doing, they're doing that thing. Brackets on Minecraft. You may not use my posts to incriminate me.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Not fair. Not fair. I am sovereign. There's just one example of when you get a little too, let's get loud. and then things get bad. That was cute. Not that loud. Let's get loud.
Starting point is 00:42:12 There's one section I just want to read word for word. Well, I'm the official laughingstock of my family now. Awesome. And then someone, this is embarrassing. Here come all excuses now. And then somebody was responding to a comment. So where's the shock and awe? And I guess this was like at 1130.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And this person responded, Q also said noon! Exclamation point. I will start kicking people for their attitudes. We are patriots. You stand here and hold the line with us or you can leave. Your choice. And Noon came and went.
Starting point is 00:42:52 He was not heard from. And then the final one in that is, OMG, none of this was real. You know what though? If you have somebody that is willing to own up that they came this far and it didn't happen, you know, maybe just be like, okay, so do you want to talk about how you want to make amends now? That's the thing I'm trying to figure out, right? Because if clearly there are people who are like truly are like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:43:22 I played myself. truly are like what the fuck right i played myself i there i feel like there has to be a way to like you want to capitalize on that energy to try and get people to return to the information age on some level uh but jesus i do want to just play this one thing of this q anon guy who's so disappointed at noon uh who is posting and just like come on guys like let's let's just stay together well patriots we're all probably doing the same thing watching this inauguration you know we've been told to watch it carefully because a lot of it could be nonsense fakes um you, only time will tell. But, you know, Simon, Scott McKay, they've all told us that this thing has to go all the way through for it to be completed. The inauguration has to be completed. Before Trump makes a move.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Right, right. So I think we're all sitting here waiting, waiting for something to happen. I don't think this is over yet fellas guys and girls be safe oh nice oh okay thank you for being inclusive thank you for being inclusive what about the non-binary q people no okay just making sure where q stands on that all right ladies and gentlemen uh but wow they're yeah they were really the goal posts were shifting and like there were some other like people on twitter who were monitoring it in real time, showing that there was a very distinct moment at noon
Starting point is 00:44:52 where a couple people tried to push the goalposts even further. And people were like, no, fuck this. And they just started devouring the fucking threads. Trump's been late before. Don't worry about it. He's just running late military precision my ass i do wonder like if there's they're like there's a clear need to like do some mass de-radicalization uh especially for people who are newly um saying like holy shit everything
Starting point is 00:45:21 that i have been like burning every bridge in my life and giving into every prejudice I've ever had was based on this gigantic lie. And it's like, I mean, it's not it's not I wonder if there will be some sort of figure or ideology that emerges that is actually helpful in deradicalizing. I don't I don't know. It's so, like, what is gonna, what are, which direction are these people gonna go? Right. There does seem like some of the institutions are losing momentum. Like, even Fox News is now,
Starting point is 00:45:59 like, it's always way out in front, first in the ratings, and now it's lagging, it's third, ever since the election. I think just the fact that they don't have a coherent truth, they can kind of rally behind like their, uh, the news part of their reporting, like the stuff that happens during the day just now completely contradicts
Starting point is 00:46:24 the stuff that they're the day just now completely contradicts the stuff that they're saying at night um tucker carlson is usually way out front number one in the ratings he's now like fourth um and yeah i mean they you're you're seeing even like polling shift around about 20 of republicans say they approve of conviction in the latest poll, uh, conviction of Donald Trump in the, uh, in the Senate, which is an increase from 14% of Republicans saying that, uh, just like a week before. And that's, that's, you know, the, the fact that it's moving in that direction as we get further away from the event is, I think, somewhat significant, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I mean, you'd hope. And that's probably like the self-preservation mechanism of a lot of these fucking ghouls who were just absolute monsters the last couple of years being like, OK, I'm going to lean hard into this thing. And then maybe that will absolve me or at least people will weigh that against you know the all the dumb shit i did because like we have this weird thing in america too where like you could have a lifetime of being racist but you could be like no you know what i think black lives matter and suddenly it's if it completely erased your history or like how you've spoken about things not that people can change but there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly be like no i'm on this side completely erased your history or like how you've spoken about things. Not that people can change,
Starting point is 00:47:48 but there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly be like, no, I'm on this side to try and appear like you have been correct. And I, maybe there's that. And maybe we just benefit from that, that they just, they so badly want to hide their own sins that they, they're just like,
Starting point is 00:47:59 fuck it. I'll vote for impeachment. Um, but then we will continue to pretend. I'm sure a lot of people continue to pretend or treat their fellow senators, Congress people like, oh, that was so great of you to do that, even though you rah-rahed the insurrection
Starting point is 00:48:13 and we almost all got got. Right. I mean, that's what's so infuriating about the unity message that's being made literally two weeks after a violent insurrection. Like, fuck off, you know? fuck off yeah um yeah that's never not gonna be fucking infuriating guys hug this weed whacker that's on hold it real close to your face kiss it kiss the weed whacker
Starting point is 00:48:39 unity with it no it's fucked no like turn it off or take the gas out and then maybe we can talk right yeah it's it's so frustrating and it's like and i it's so frustrating to have like people in your life who are like why aren't like come on let's all let's all hold hands like it's gonna be fine it's like that that's not that's not two weeks later language, period. Like, oik oif. Yeah, I need to check in with my family member who went Q and stopped talking to all of us. I wonder how she's doing today. Yeah, I mean, there were a few people who were on extremism Twitter and they're like, you know, if someone reaches out to you who went Q and tries to come back, like try maybe make it, if it feels sincere, maybe you have a chance at it,
Starting point is 00:49:27 but you never know. But it's like, it's weird now that we're also finding, you know, trying to find like our empathy for these people who are completely lied to, but the, but the fallout of their misinformation diet was translating into direct violence. It's, it's all like a very fucking weird
Starting point is 00:49:47 it feels like a fucking comic book we're like right like a damon lindelof show we're like we're having to now deal with all these people who are like wearing white all the time and not talking and smoking cigarettes i'm like okay hey um you done black pilling right a second can you right let's be happy i don't know who how do we how do i do this it's hard yeah it's it's hard because you you it's it's like it feels like basically impossible to it's it seems like okay maybe i'm off here but just the way even the tone of like the embarrassing messages on those forums is like oh we were wrong so like sorry our bad forgive us right away and it's like that can't be how it goes uh but then like how do you access your empathy to like get they but it's like it's i don't know
Starting point is 00:50:33 just the expectation of like oh whoopsies i have been part of a violent death cult for four years and saying the most fucked up shit you can imagine and believing it and now whoops i'm sorry so you have to forgive me right away uh or i said i was wrong like yeah yeah it just feels like i don't know just like forgive me i'm gonna fucking kill you whoa yeah kind of like i i i don't know yeah it's early doors still process it's early doors it's only fucking i day plus one so uh you know well guaranteed everyone's feelings are going to change on it but yeah i mean i just think of how much things have shifted since the sixth of like my our understanding of everything what the fuck to like oh my god disgusting This is so fucked and putrid.
Starting point is 00:51:26 So yeah, we'll see. I mean, I, you can, you see a lot of journalists on Twitter right now who are like, uh, if you've got Q relatives, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:31 and you've checked in on them, hit me up. Trying to write an article on this right now. I think that's like every journalist is trying to dive into that. New York Times wants to go to a Q diner to check in with all the Trump supporters. Can't wait for that episode of The Daily. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:47 We went to a Q Diner. It's like, or just don't. And they had some interesting thoughts. Like, don't air them. I think they had some pretty good ideas. They just wanted better, efficient government. And it turns out that they're actually really sorry. Yes, very sorry. Be sorry.
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Starting point is 00:56:26 sense or do you want to explain more no that's good uh what's something that's over it i am stupid okay because i know we all hate on twitter and tiktok and whatever for the individual like toxicity that we get but recently as i came on last time a while ago to talk about ai and i believe it or not journeyed further into this depth. But you know how neural networks are like systems. Like the short version is like your brain has organic systems like your limbic system, your prefrontal cortex and then organs or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:57 But they all work together to make you. And I think we're getting to the point where social media like platforms like Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, they're not all just ways for humans individually to interact or create communities anymore. The platform itself has become a system. Like people using it actually change the platform as an organ. Like one will eventually function more like the heart and the brain. And they're not all going to sub in for each other. function more like the heart and the brain and they're not all going to sub in for each other we're already getting to that point like tiktok isn't just one where people who like social media get on it people get on it to do tiktok whereas it used to be you follow the new thing so i think we're getting to that point and i think it's a good thing because i think it'll take away the individualistic like negative stuff and make it so we all are almost like cells and atoms adding our positive you know the positivity will win out because the flow is going to go towards like human nature in hopefully survival
Starting point is 00:57:54 way like the way that your brain adapts to survive i think these platforms are going to become interactive systems in the internet body right does that make sense yeah no that totally makes sense that's super that's like looking very out into the future i'm like wow okay shit i think we're there already with a lot of things we're there yeah yeah like people are sacrificing their own individuality for like whatever is going to make the overall system like operate more efficiently or whatever is going to like get more attention in the overall system like operate more efficiently or whatever is going to like get more attention in the overall system like on twitter or whatever it is but i don't think it's a bad thing it's not that individuals you'll lose anything it's that in the same way that you know you jack when your
Starting point is 00:58:36 body is healthy your heart's healthy your everything benefits so by acting in your own best interest we are now connected at a threshold that will keep the body surviving which is like human nature in the internet yeah i mean it's it's super interesting i i could see a future where people are harnessing that to do good and bad because it is like people have you know been like when are we going to reach the singularity? When is AI going to happen? And suddenly, artificial intelligence is beyond human comprehension. And I feel like this is a form of the singularity where we are all individual neurons contributing to an overall hive mind organism. I think that's a really interesting way to put it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 But don't worry. The AI won't take over in an evil way once you get there you'll let go of your ego i think i'm already there and then you'll realize that uh if you believe in the common good it will keep going that way but it is really scary yeah it's scary yeah i'm just because it's hard for me to think of these platforms working without people's egos being healthy too you know because i think it cancels out at a certain point well so like for example trump never got on tiktok and people have many reasons why i like data but i also think i think he's probably been on it secretly tiktok the like algorithm shows you your subconscious like it knows you better, not in a way that Facebook tells you what to buy,
Starting point is 01:00:08 in a way that it'll literally be like, we know you were in an abusive relationship, whether you say it or not. And then they'll start showing you how to heal. And I think if you're a narcissist or someone with Trump tendencies, you're going to see a lot of stuff you don't want to see because your subconscious is reflecting the parts that you don't want to see. And so I don't think people like him want to be on tiktok right but i'm just saying from the like but then there are people who participate on the content creation side good
Starting point is 01:00:33 or bad too that i also see like your ego absolutely needs to be healthy enough to sort of continue in the pattern of like putting yourself out there for the views to keep sort of feeding that relationship to the platform but i think it i think it all depends like you're saying there are people in it for different reasons other people might not be as ego-centered when they're participating in but i think one of the reasons why i've even like my relationship over time with social media has changed is like there was an element about like reinforcing my ego to the posting that was not was like not very healthy for me or like was was was feeding a lot of other like subconscious insecurities or whatever and I was like oh god
Starting point is 01:01:18 this is like torturous in a way but I think we're all made differently you know well I love the videos. I agree. I definitely had moments of like, yeah, posting kind of like sub tweets, but I would also argue that I had to go through that phase of my life to now come out on the other side. So not to say you have to, but if you lean into all your tendencies,
Starting point is 01:01:38 you end up healing yourself faster. I don't know. It sounds really bananas, but I feel like, I do feel like it's gotten smoother using social media in that way. some profound way as a as a society like that i mean there was a news story over the weekend that uh trump being banned like disinformation about the election went down 70 percent and i replied to that i was like do we will we look back on the social media era as like the way somebody who is in recovery looks back on like a you know what they did while they were under the
Starting point is 01:02:25 influence and i interesting but i i also feel like that might have been specific to having a president who was using social media in that way but there is there is that power right there there is the ability for somebody to come in and completely take over if it's not regulated in some way that has an eye toward the overall health of society as opposed to what is driving revenue. Well, I see it as the same way as when you first get your trust broken, you might be like, oh, I better not trust anymore. But then over time when you start leaning into learning lessons you realize like trust is one of my good qualities i just have to learn how to discern who to trust and i think trump taking advantage of a lot of his followers is similar like they do have trauma bonds but he it's not the idea isn't to never
Starting point is 01:03:22 trust it's to figure out how to like spot the red flags because the trust part will actually make the community stronger if people know how to discern. I don't know. Now this sounds really boring. I am a comedian, but I haven't done stand up in almost a year. No, but it's true. There is like you're saying there is a mirror to it, but it requires a level of self-awareness and openness to self-examination i think to get those lessons out of it um yeah because many people don't you know yeah i worry that there's a lot of like i've noticed in uh pop culture there being a trend of the only example that's coming to mind is memento but like i think there are a lot of movies where it's like people
Starting point is 01:04:03 intentionally ignore something to like give their life meaning they like and i i feel like that is a reflection of something we're seeing more and more as yeah technology and culture yeah like intentional cognitive dissonance uh which i think could get you in trouble on the what what you're talking about can i steal a minute of the show just to talk parent child programming? Allison, does your child watch Blippi at all? Oh, yeah. We had a big Blippi phase and then he came out of it. And then just like three days ago, he asked to watch Blippi again.
Starting point is 01:04:39 So we're headed to Blippi-ville. Did you know about the scandal? Yes, I did. I just found out about this. I love it. Tell them, because this is too good to be true. So Blippi is a dude who just,
Starting point is 01:04:55 it's the way that entertainment, yeah, it's the way entertainment works in the digital age where he was just like a cool uncle who was making videos for his nephews to entertain them and became like a viral sensation and so now he has like a whole children's entertainment media youtube empire and then it comes out uh that in the early teens 2013 video uh there's a video of him taking a shit on his friend's ass
Starting point is 01:05:26 right so his name is steve his real name is steven johns and he was a gross out comedian what was his he had a stage name i don't know do you remember something gross yeah it was ploppy yeah it was ploppy yeah it was ploppy before oh man uh oh my god so what do you mean oh turd boy and underwear man i think uh were were his nicknames or at least those were the videos that uh got him steven j grossman that's what it was he called himself Steven J Grossman oh my god oh no sorry Steven John is his
Starting point is 01:06:08 he was born as Steven Grossman I feel like there's even a third or fourth name that he went by um no here it is sorry
Starting point is 01:06:16 Steezy Grossman Steezy is what he called himself Steezy Grossman yes you know that's a real nickname that he had in high school
Starting point is 01:06:24 Steezy Grossman oh gross man it's amazing that it didn't even put a dent in his success as a children's entertainer well i i think the two things were not like nobody knew about them that they were the same person for a little while and then it's just coming out but yeah i i guess it came out in 2019 and you're right it hasn't really made a dent he's still uh he's still that dude but the video wasn't like okay i know you said he took a dump on his friend's ass dude he was doing a parody harlem shake video yeah yeah it really kind of comes out of nowhere uh to to quote to quote buzzfeed news uh in a hard r-rated twist in a 2013 video that buzzfeed news has reviewed
Starting point is 01:07:14 uh stephen blippy john takes an explosive diarrhea shit on his nude friend's ass in a truly shocking rendition of the harlem shake me uh so yeah i i do love uh buzzfeed news's uh like ability to kind of code switch between uh buzzfeed news has learned and reviewed footage and then being like diarrhea shit on a new friend's ass um it's interesting that that's hard r i mean i guess that makes sense i mean yeah i feel like it's if that that's hard R. I mean, I guess that makes sense. I mean, yeah. I feel like if I suddenly saw that, I would feel like I need more warning than just an R rating. Yeah, I don't think that's a hard R.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I think that is poor writing on whoever wrote that BuzzFeed News article. That would be Katie Notopoulos. Oh, she's great. We'd love to know more, Katie. It's a little bit harder than a hard r yeah it's her beat diarrhea shits yeah no she's actually very i'd hate to see what she thinks is like a like nc-17 yeah it's just people being like what she thinks is g-rate right yeah um
Starting point is 01:08:22 anyway this is not racist yeah i know right like this is not the and he was able to just come out and be like yeah i did some gross out stuff uh i mean look i get that i've uh you know people doing trying comedy on the internet you to make some you experiment with some dumb shit and then you're like okay that's not it but like i'm for you as parents when you see a thing you're like oh my kid likes this entertainer where do you put bad harlem shake shitting video in terms of like you can't watch this like how low is that you know i mean like racism as a person or violent abuse you know like of just transgressions that are revealed about someone you're like oh actually this this actually negates all the work they've done i i have two boys they have probably described what what happens
Starting point is 01:09:12 in that video before just because poop jokes are like the funniest thing in the world to them and just like saying poop on somebody who's pooping would probably be a thing that they would describe so there's definitely like when i first saw Blippi, I was like, this is weird. Cause he's like a middle-aged dude. Who's dressed like a, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It's like the guy who was like, do you want government cash for like with the question mark suit? He looks like that dude's nephew. Yes. Yes, he does. That's exactly right. All right. We've completely derailed this show this is absolutely not what people tune in uh to hear about all right that's
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