The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 160 (Best of 1/25/21-1/29/21)

Episode Date: January 31, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:16 all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i have spent a lot of time over the last couple of days looking for curtains a lot of time over the last couple of days looking for curtains for the apartment that I'm living in. And I, I think I'll never find them. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And I want one, I want one panel curtains for my kitchen and every kitchen set of curtains seems to be like a two piece bathing suit with like a little bit at the top and then like a little bit in the middle. uh and i can't believe that i'm like this is the height of sickening domesticity where i'm just like no those curtains are too are too blackout those curtains are too translucent i'm not gonna be able to i need curtains that give me privacy and let some light in like it's a really unpleasant shitty errand i wish i had cooler you know i also spent a lot of time searching the guy who um wrote the song spirit
Starting point is 00:03:32 in the sky oh why well what's what'd you learn about him well first of all as much as i want to talk about curtains sorry it's an orthodox jew named norman greenbaum from the boston area he uh was he heard gospel on television thought that sounds easy sat down and wrote the top charting gospel song of all time in 13 minutes jesus christ it took him 13 minutes he looked at the clock it was 120. He looked at the clock. It was 12.05. He looked at the clock again. It was 12.22. It took him 13 minutes to write Spirit in the Sky, which has just charted more than any. It's not the best gospel song. It's the
Starting point is 00:04:13 highest charting gospel song. And people send him angry letters because he says, there's a lyric where he says, I'm not a sinner. I've never sinned, but I got a friend in Jesusesus and people send him letters about how we're all sinners yeah yeah he writes back like i'm jewish i don't really give a shit i mean i wouldn't say so gospel song i was thinking of a different song but that that's
Starting point is 00:04:36 the uh the gonna dadada to the spirit in the sky it's like a 70s like It's like a 70s, like, it's like a 70s rock song, but it's about Jesus, right? Like, it doesn't feel like actual, like, the genre of gospel music, right? It was classified. Sorry, I mean, I don't know, but it was, it's listed as, it was gospel
Starting point is 00:04:59 charting. It charted as gospel. I mean, I guess it's about Jesus, so that's all you need, right? It's the second most requested song at funerals really yeah behind danny but um but um but um um that's so interesting when so was he doing it almost as a was like here here these these idiots will love this because it kind of feels like he's like oh that looks real easy he doesn't it as a joke i think he was sort of like captain beefheart band called like the eggplant that ate chicago or something like that and he wrote this as a joke and people were like this is just such a great gospel song he's like no it's a fucking joke and that's that's so
Starting point is 00:05:46 interesting that happens so often we i've i've talked about it before but the fact that uh that stealer's wheel song stuck in the middle with you was them doing like basically seeing that bob dylan was so successful and being like we're gonna make fun fun of Bob Dylan with a bunch of shitty Bob Dylan metaphors about clowns and jokers and do an actual shitty Bob Dylan voice during the song. They're going, Clowns to the left of me, jokers. It's by far their biggest hit of all time.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's the number one song to get tortured to. I'm not sure if most people know that but that song is behind danny boy is the number is the number if you haven't seen reservoir dogs that joke will make zero sense to you but it is i think everyone's seen that i think we can we can assume it's i mean yeah i don't i don't know why they call it gospel maybe just because of the lyrics. Because I wouldn't say it has the actual structure of traditional gospel music sonically. But yeah, I guess in that sense, when they're like, well, if it's Jesus-based, we'll put it in there, in the gospel. Maybe a bit of Lil Nas X when they were saying he wasn't country.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It's 100% a rock song. Also, it was issued under the name norman greenbaum no one was like is this guy sam cook or something like it was uh yeah it seems like it belongs squarely in the uh in the same category as the uh jeremiah was a bullfrog um well what are some other like rock songs that are of that genre of like rock songs that seem like they could have been written by a five-year-old uh but they they rule for sure that's not an insult the mash the theme to mash was robert altman said okay so for the theme music we need something that sounds like it was written by a
Starting point is 00:07:46 10 year old yeah like literally written by a 10 year old and whoever was writing it couldn't do it so robert altman's son michael wrote the music and he was like 13 years old and so there was a time where the 13 year old son of robert Altman was pulling in more money and royalties for mash than Robert Altman was writing the theme music. Is that true? It really is. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:12 I may be messing up the names. Maybe it's not Michael Altman, but I think it is, but the song is called suicide is painless. Yeah. And, uh, which that kid,
Starting point is 00:08:20 that's a 13 year old name. That's a, that's a 13 year old coming up with that title. a 13-year-old coming up with that title, because that's some real angsty shit. Okay, I hate to pull some string. Number crunch here, he was 15, apparently. He was 15. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:34 What's his name? Michael Altman, though? Is it the name? You got the Michael Altman two years off on the age, but we'll let it stand. Yeah, I added some precocity to that kid. Yeah, and Elvis also was doing like a bit he was doing a fake character to make the session musicians laugh and that's where he got like at first he
Starting point is 00:08:53 was singing like himself like he would sing and then he started doing like a whole thank you like thing like that and people were like no that actually slaps keep doing that and that's how you came up with the thing after like hours of just trying to sing in a straightforward way what i was i was i opened for back for a little while on the road back when people started now uh but when people still did that i did stand up and it was great and one of his um one of the folks that was touring with him told me that, you know that Loser, which is one of his most famous songs, where he was in the studio and he kept fucking something up. And I've not clarified this directly with Beck, but I've had this confirmed by other people, which is that he started singing about how he was a loser. And they're like, we're going to use that. Yeah he started singing about how he was a loser and they're like we're gonna use that yeah he's like i'm a loser baby so why don't you come i mean like
Starting point is 00:09:50 he's he's unbelievable so it's not like he's he's a fuck up but i mean yeah i can imagine that people doing shit for laughs musicians are so painfully earnest that sometimes when they're occasionally not taking themselves seriously maybe it's better than the stuff that they're doing right because they get out of their own way right and it like just get by doing something silly or something it just like gets the it clears the signal for them or whatever whatever it is also there's something about the alchemy of doing something simple yeah and like you know my favorite there's a piece by eric johnson who's a great guitarist called Cliffs of Dover which is like
Starting point is 00:10:27 famously like one of the hardest pieces to play on guitar but it's got a really simple riff at the center of it and he was like yeah I was taking my groceries in for the car I rode in like five minutes yeah Sweet Child of Mine was a finger stretching exercise that Slash used to do
Starting point is 00:10:42 really? yeah there's like a bunch of stories like that where it's just like these very simple things and like musicians just are are too complicated they get too complicated with it uh they're too advanced you may know custer dover from being the hardest song to play in guitar hero but but it is very, very good. I mean, through the fire and flames on the hardest mode is also pretty intense too. Oh, yeah. That's the wrong Guitar Hero. My Guitar Hero freaks out there.
Starting point is 00:11:15 What is something you think is underrated? Underrated is the internet. I have been without internet for almost a week. And let me tell you, absolutely essential to our existence as human beings now. I'm so lucky my father sent me a terabyte hard drive filled with movies. That's what I've had to watch lately. There is no streaming right now in my house. I'd upgrade my phone plan to a hotspot.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That thing is slow as hell. Internet required for existence. Yeah. that thing is slow as hell uh internet required for existence yeah well so i'm guessing your move the the monopoly of spectrum hasn't come to bless your wires yet oh so frustrating i called the called the landlord and i was like yo we're wired for internet right they were like no doubt great we got this i've set up internet since i was four i know how to do this this is great i'll just set it up they set it up i get the the nonstop blinking lights, call spectrum. Yo, fix your stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:08 They're like, oh, hey, we're seeing you. You're here. I'm like, we're not here. I promise you. I know how to do this. Internet, not there. So then they sent somebody over. That guy, total jerk, was essentially like, oh, we have to set up an entire new box for
Starting point is 00:12:20 you connected to your phone line. Because while you have an internet wire you do not have our internet wire what does that mean still not quite sure yeah they've got us do construction and drill holes in walls and all kinds of crazy things i mean like we can come back in a week right right you're like okay sure my corpse will let you in since i've died of no internet order groceries. What are we doing? I was like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Just go ahead and put the date down. I'm going to call other companies and we'll see who can get here faster. But I wound up calling AT&T and they were like, we can do 10 megabytes per second, 55 for our equipment. I was like, out the door. Don't ever talk to me again, AT&T. Why would you even call their office? I can stream one thing a day. Don't talk to me or my son ever again you guys have fiber wire cables but i'm getting 10 megabits like oh god
Starting point is 00:13:13 at&t in la is just yeah we'll randomly be like ah we can't get to your house sorry it's like oh yeah i'm in the middle of a neighborhood my neighbor has like very you're a highest high speed internet but they're like yeah sorry we we can't get there for some reason it's mind-blowing i don't understand why we let internet companies i had an at&t person come and then tell me to get spectrum you showed up i'm like yo i need this shit now like i need it 15 minutes ago like my whole life is on the internet and like i like whatever has to happen and they're like yeah i'm gonna be honest with you man you're probably better off the spectrum at this point i'm like you're not even looking at the thing he's like i can just tell i'm gonna have to go up there and if your neighbor's
Starting point is 00:14:01 not home i'm like shit then the spectrum guy came it was really nice which is very un that's very not familiar yeah on spectrum of him but like it was sometimes you get those tech people who like actually give a fuck about their job and not to say like we call them what yeah whatever it is like i just love when someone has enthusiasm about it and is like over explaining like yeah this is the reason blah blah but i'm glad you're almost on the other side of your internet this like one more week it's uh yeah it's an indictment any to any time you're dealing with a telecom company it's an indictment of uh capitalism i feel like yeah because these should all be fucking public services you know like
Starting point is 00:14:45 public utilities that are actually done in a humane way and like affordable rather than like well how much can you afford right well they're like oh well you can't afford to stream your education you can afford to like look at static documents like fuck off joel what movies are on the uh hard drive what any any forgotten classics dad first of every action movie between 2008 and now is on there for sure nice we watched all the fast and furious is every mission impossible uh all the uh planet of the apes if it blew up it was on there uh but then he also included a lot of like black American classes. Glory is on there. And so is the color purple.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I'm like, what mood were you in when you were, were you like, also things that blow up, but also education. And then he put a lot of girly movies on there for me, which I really appreciated. My Atonement is on there. What else? Pride and Prejudice is on there,
Starting point is 00:15:44 which I favorite movie watch it over and over again yeah a nice a nice combination i will say this a movie for every mood because there has not been one time where we're like oh there's nothing to watch on this thing and i've scrolled through all of netflix and found nothing to watch so i was pretty pleased with it that's some top-notch dadding right there that's like some excellent father if you can if you can like put a movie selection together that will entertain your kids for uh over a week like that's right you go in the dad hall of fame right doesn't matter if you're three or thirty you know what i mean i was we did also watch all the kung fu pandas and all the train your dragons so yeah we got to
Starting point is 00:16:20 send my dad an award or something yeah my asses if say your dad asses. If most dads, it would just be a series of Liam Neeson movies and probably some Seagal in there. A couple of Civil War docs. Yeah, yeah. We'll put you in color. No, you don't understand. It's in color. It's new stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Peter Jackson took all that World War one footage and made it so real what is something you think is overrated um i had trouble thinking of something that's overrated uh but one thing that i think is overrated because i'm scared of it's owning a house i feel like i'd rather prefer to think of it as like that's overrated than actually engage in something that terrifies me. I'm being too honest. I should have been like Star Wars. Like I should have just. Instead, I was like, I don't know, having a baby.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Is that overrated? Let's talk about it. Yeah. I'm going too deep. I'm sorry. What city are you in, Mike? New York? I'm in New York.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah. Because I feel like. Did you or did you, Mike? New York? I'm in New York. Yeah. Because I feel like, where did you grow up? I grew up in South Florida, though. Oh, okay. So, because I feel like I know people who, like, I have friends who grew up in New York who have that block of a home thing, but has the city changed your outlook on that? Has that influenced your feeling of it being overrated? I think it's more that my parents were bad with money when i was a kid and so for me i was always
Starting point is 00:17:49 like what's the point of doing this it just seems like it doesn't you know it seems like you don't really own the house not realizing my parents were very bad with money at that moment in time yeah that it wasn't like it wasn't just like the bank showing up being like hey guys we decided we want this we want it back right they're like this is overrated mom you should not be doing as a kid that's how i felt like i was almost like why do we own why did you buy this so i think it's like it's less that it is really overrated but something that like in my head almost i always hit a mental block on and i'm like no nobody that's not real yeah absolutely i absolutely. I just love that idea. Yeah, I don't know why they kept making the same mistake.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But really, that's how it felt. Yeah. Well, that's also the speaks to the power of like how much of our financial literacy and idea of finances just comes from our parents. Like I have parents who didn't make a lot of money, but also didn't talk about it. So I just grew up being like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I think you work. And then you could have a kid, but I can't always have new shoes. So there's levels to it. But Noah was like, you got to save. And my dad, not until I was out of college, my dad was like, yeah, man. The second I got married, I started saving for your college. I was like, what? Motherfucker. You didn't tell me. yeah man like the second i got married i started saving for your college i was like what motherfucker
Starting point is 00:19:05 i never you didn't tell me i'm i'm sitting here with nine thousand dollar sneakers on and you're telling me now i gotta say fuck i'm all fucked up nine thousand dollar sneakers no i don't have no nine well you think i was at the fucking inauguration and those dior jordans no uh yeah i uh i'm fully financially illiterate as we're about to learn when we discuss uh wall street uh you went big on gamestop to the point that uh i'm very similar with wall street i like resent wall street i'm like this is all just like made up lingo bullshit fuck off uh and i feel like a lot of america's that way and that's where uh some of this is coming from uh what is something alex you think is overrated fran
Starting point is 00:19:54 leibowitz if i wanted to hear an old jew complain i'd listen to me i am so they're fine they're basic complaining observations that everyone has they're not they're i'm actually not kidding more worried about saying this on a recorded medium than i've ever been about it saying anything i don't want to get canceled for i like fran lee witts a lot I've read everything she's ever published which is like three books and they're small I just don't understand why someone who's basically been tweeting since 1979
Starting point is 00:20:37 is this grand doyen of like curmudgeonliness it's fine it is the and by the way everyone's like, she's such an avant-garde figure. Everyone enjoys her. I don't know a single...
Starting point is 00:20:50 By the way, I don't even hate Fran Lebowitz. I think Fran Lebowitz is great. I just don't think Fran Lebowitz needs to be inaugurated into the brown paper bag pantheon of New York City where everyone's like, you see her on the street. She's not a deity. Now there's a Martin Scorsese documentary where he laughs at her bon mots about how people walk too slow on
Starting point is 00:21:11 the sidewalk which is the same thing everyone's been complaining about since 1984 i don't understand why she's so famous pretend it's a city is what it's called because that's her joke is pretend it's a city and act like there are people around you. It's one bit. It's one bit. It's one bit and I'm done with it. I want to see the positive Fran Lebowitz spins. I know that she's angry. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I'm angry too. Just show me something. Also, spicy tuna crispy rice. Very overrated while we're on the rice topic. Spicy tuna crispy rice. Very overrated. While we're on the rice topic. Spicy tuna crispy rice. It's everywhere. Wow, I was about to say epidemic, but we've got to be careful about our word choice these days. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Spicy tuna crispy rice. And they're not all created equal. Some are really good, some are really bad. But as a concept, it's overrated. And I like now, there's a restaurant in glendale california near where i live and they have a sign outside that says no spicy tuna crispy rice which i appreciate thank god i mean it's yeah i look i know like nobu did it first and that was like the thing and everyone oh fuck you had the crispy rice and then it just became like like the cupcake
Starting point is 00:22:21 phenomenon of like japanese restaurants where it's like, you gotta have a crispy rice thing. And like, like Japanese people were like, for who? Cause we don't want that. Like that ain't, no, I'm not my,
Starting point is 00:22:32 when I go there with like my family or my mom or whatever, we're not like, yo, we gotta get the crispy rice. It's just a very, uh, I think cause like, I think it being at Nobu made it this sort of,
Starting point is 00:22:42 it elevated it to this idea of like fancy Japanese restaurant dish. But yeah. Yeah. And it's like more fast food. Sorry. I'm very concerned now about my, I don't want to be, I don't want to have my credentials as a devout New York Jew revoked.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So please, please guys be kind. If you are big friendly woods and please, I also don't want friendly woods to find out because she's a scary lady. I think you could match wits with Fran. Yeah, I think you'd be fine. I think it would actually be good for you. I think you should start a feud with
Starting point is 00:23:14 Fran Lebowitz. It could be like East Coast, West Coast thing now that you're in LA. Wouldn't be great if Fran Lebowitz was like, I don't beef down. She's like, get your numbers up, ho. Don't beef down. I got a Martin Scorsese special under my belt, son. I don't need you.
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Starting point is 00:25:11 They lying. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot.
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Starting point is 00:28:01 gas study uh which found that basically giving people access to uh or taking away their access to um you know methods of suicide actually affects whether people kill themselves that's not a thing that like where there's a will there's a way it's it's named after the fact that they changed the type of gas that was used in British ovens in the 20th century. And once the method of putting it sticking your head in an oven was no longer lethal, the British suicide rate dropped by like a third because that's how a third of people were killing themselves. They just had a box they could stick their head in that would end their life and so that was once that went away people stopped it just the suicides went away as opposed to people finding a different way so there's more evidence
Starting point is 00:29:01 on I usually bring this up in relation to gun control, and there's now very specific evidence that proves that that is valid. A lot of people bring it up. I don't just bring it up, but a lot of people bring it up in relation to gun control. research has showed that a temporary decision by walmart to stop selling firearms uh reduced the suicide rate by 3.3 to 7.5 percent in counties uh with walmart stores uh which was an estimated 5 000 to 11 000 lives saved or 5 000 to close to 12 000 lives saved and so you know this is just one of those things that it seems like it seems to me like the most straightforward case for gun control is like there are lives that are being lost explicitly because people are allowed to have guns in their house yeah but how much do walmart profits fall right at that time right but beyond
Starting point is 00:30:05 even that i was like the so many people in the pandemic were like well people die what can you do they're gonna die like it's gonna be a lot of that same energy and if you're things i've actually heard if you're stupid enough to take your own life and maybe you deserve to die these just callous and completely uncaring about like well well, you know, some people are sick and need help. And we could easily give that to them as we could have gotten. Like it's pretty much the same amount of effort goes into like helping somebody as it does to just be like, well, you're on your own, buddy. Yeah. Comparing it to like the connection between mental and physical health. It's like if getting a fever killed you if you
Starting point is 00:30:46 are going through a particularly difficult period of time and you have access to something that uh you know you're mentally you're not well and you have access to something that locks that feeling in like that it's the same it's like you know that that idea that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem is i think unimportant like it's kind of a quippy thing but it's also like these statistics bear out that that ends up being what it is a lot of the time like and you know there have been uh longitudinal studies of people who jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and survive. And there's, I think, 90-something percent of them go on to not kill themselves. They go on to live normal lives. a lot uh and so it's like the just because you make that decision in that moment doesn't mean that two minutes later you would have still wanted to make that decision yeah the very just rigid view of it that doesn't that doesn't help anyone uh at all and having a button that ends your life
Starting point is 00:32:01 as which is what guns are is like the most permanent and just the most drastic way of you know uh locking in that uh what is a sort of philosophical dilemma that people you know generally don't down the road don't want to have like that's what it it makes uh the decision to take your own life so tragic to me that so oftentimes the person would have wanted not to have done that if you had given them another day to think on it if they just didn't have that means right there walmart is just like being you know i for most people know walmart is just the destroyer yeah of a company and what it's done to just you know most small businesses across the land but then like to add this on top of the thing about how walmart and mcdonald's like are the two companies that employ so many americans that still need are relying on public benefits because of their unwillingness to actually give people the the things they need um it's like like come on let's
Starting point is 00:33:12 do something now that we're having the 15 an hour argument right no how is that still a conversation we started that conversation when i was in college the shit should be 2525. Yeah, like, let's be real. Let's be fucking real. That's at minimum. It should be $25 an hour. And, you know, the, well, how are you going to pay for that? It's called the people who you'll never be as rich as are going to be slightly less rich. Right, right. Or the other argument we hear all the time is like, oh, well, then that will force them to, like, fire people. It'll bring more machines.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Like, that's already happening. Like, we already have these machines taking over people jobs like well here's the thing machines don't consume products either so what do you do about that you know like it's like all so then you have to you have to have money for people whether it's through a ubi or something um because we're not going to some weird The Island type vibe where everyone's wearing their white uniform and like, here's your gruel and go on your Peloton. What the fuck? It's holding back
Starting point is 00:34:15 progress by allowing companies to... It's just wage slavery. That's because your only option is, okay, so you're not going to work then you'll die right well that's a fucked up why am i what's this what's this game set up as exactly so if i don't do this if i don't work and toil then my op i i there's nothing to rely on to help me. So my only option is to be, have my labor exploited.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Huh? Right. Yes. That's the goal of capitalism. You work or you die. Right. Everybody who is physically unable to work or people who have any kind of barrier to working as a woman who it's a brilliant writer, but she's deaf.
Starting point is 00:35:02 It was having such a hard time finding a job that would make any kind of like accommodations for her she's like they all want to meet on zoom i can't hear what you're saying and none of you sign so what am i doing here what is the point and she can't she just literally cannot participate in the work she's proven herself time and time again to be good at that kind of stuff is so frustrating um yeah we live in a society where you you absolutely have to be productive in order to be valued and i think that that's so disgusting yeah and we're just we're not like shedding that like toxic philosophy quick enough you know because we still have we gotta work hard even if your hands bleed it's like that's fucking fucked up and cruel like yeah there there has to be some like level that we
Starting point is 00:35:47 can all come to and agree on but i think that'll take time it's like it's just really we're just watching these companies like grind people out to the point where it's like i don't know what do we do but it's like well we fucking you know this is all we have to be in this together um so that we have to look at that and say that's not a good situation that's not a direction philosophically societally i want to move in but yeah come on we'll day by day just got to keep that in the front of the mind because hopefully you know we'll reach a tipping point of people thinking in the same way and we can start i don't know maybe that's a little too optimistic but hey the last four years have at
Starting point is 00:36:26 least got people pretty focused on shit so there may be something to do with that yeah uh and just before we go to break just going back to the suicide conversation uh that it is a public health crisis in the united states it is twice as common as homicide, which is the exact opposite of what people assume because homicide gets at least twice as much coverage when it happens. And it is that way because of guns. So it's a public health crisis that is being ignored every day in the country.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And finally, Kyle Rittenhouse finally got very lightly checked by a judge after just being out here. He's been free since November off the strength of Mike Lindell's connection to Lord Jehovah, the one on high. He's been out drinking, taking pics with Proud Boys,
Starting point is 00:37:33 throwing up the OK, a.k.a. white power symbol. His mom's even been selling merch that says Free Kyle, which there's actually, I didn't know about this, but Miles, you were saying this violates the son of Sam laws. Yeah. They have them on the books in Wisconsin, basically.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And like, you can't profit off your crimes. Like you can't turn your crime into some kind of profit thing. And then they're like, but it's for his legal bills. It's not a profit. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:03 So the money is going to the legal bills that were taken care of by a go fund me. Those legal bills. Well, okay, right. So the money is going to something. You mean the legal bills that were taken care of by a GoFundMe? Those legal bills? But I need more, though. You see, so buy your free Kyle logo padded sports bra in white for $39.99. It's a ton of nonsense. Also, I didn't realize, you know, he's 19, and there are those photos of him drinking with Proud Boys in a bar. I didn't know that in Wisconsin, if you're between 18 and and 20 you can drink in a bar if you're with your parent cool
Starting point is 00:38:30 is have you heard of this law yeah i only heard of it when i saw those pictures too and i was like oh that's yeah a dumb law it's like yeah but it's a a lot of i guess it's up to the discretion of like the business owner but still i was yeah, that's a fucking weird law. Huh? But yeah, like, so essentially this one prosecutors were just came to the judge with all this shit on some,
Starting point is 00:38:52 like, what the fuck is your man's thinking? Your honor, can we figure this out? Because not only is he flaunting his freedom in this really destructive way, but by publicly connecting yourself to proud boys, the prosecutors are like,
Starting point is 00:39:04 this could easily translate into voter intimidation you know what i mean like to say like oh i'm going to go like what do you think oh you better fucking think twice so the judge is like okay noted uh and then came out today said quote the defendant shall neither possess nor consume alcoholic beverages the defendant shall not knowingly have contact with any person or group of persons known to harm threaten harass or menace others on the basis of their race, beliefs, on the subject of religion, color, national origin, or gender. No weapons, especially firearms, and no contact,
Starting point is 00:39:32 including just certain people that were either victims or people he was in the case with. So, yeah. Oh, cool. A bit of modification to his bond agreement. um a bit of a bit of modification to his bond agreement i can't think of kyle rittenhouse too long because it just makes me scratch my head like i still to this day am blown away at just in our lifetime how many people have taken human life and have been good and then how many people have been doing a petty crime for something that doesn't affect anyone and are in prison for life like it really just makes you realize how fuck this just like here's the thing let's just say let's just say i didn't even want to think about like the racial aspects
Starting point is 00:40:18 of it facts that are known is that he killed another human being that alone usually people like put them under the jail and now you're out for free you know like and and it's crazy because it's like it is true like it's not even like someone can retaliate and be like oh man well but you know i feel at risk i'm gonna go pop his ass because then the judge could just be like nah we're gonna put you in prison though you know like like that like at some at a certain point we have to realize like oh the justice system is fucked and at a certain point it's like who who who is above like it feels like something like you remember when like a teacher you always had that one teacher who knew they had 10 years so they were doing wild shit and you're like damn
Starting point is 00:41:03 this seemed like a bad system i feel like that same thing goes for judges like there has to be a system where someone looks into some of these judges calls and be like well for a black person you put them under the jail and for a white person you didn't i think you shouldn't be a judge anymore that's bad judgment you know when this uh yeah 18 year old white young man came in with attempted murder and murder charges you quote said bring in the kegs and let's get fucking twisted yeah um your honor i don't that seems like a very uh lack of consideration yeah it feels like that sometimes where you know you can look at someone like tamir rice is 12 years old and gets killed by the police right and then you have a g little white
Starting point is 00:41:50 supremacist that could marching up and down the streets killing people and we have to sit here and stomach watching this bizarre treatment uh and be like you know for for certain people especially people of color and other people who have their eyes open enough in this country, go, this is so fucked up to see. Like, this is just so fucked up. And then on, but it works on other levels. It just makes me more nihilistic or, I mean, not fully blackpilled. But, you know, in a way, you're like, why do we need these fucked up reminders constantly in our faces being like, this is what they get away with. This is what you cannot do.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It really is like, it makes, what makes me just scratch my head is it makes the argument for a lot of these progressive causes so much easier, but people still can't sink it in the head. Like, people were like, why would you defund the police? Why would you defund the police why would you defund the police and not a couple months later in florida we had a judge rule that police have no no like right like cause to protect and serve if they're not in custody like it was because the parents were obviously trying to sue the cops at parkland who ran away from the shooter and and and you look and you're like so so what are you there for if if you're saying that if you're scared you can run away if you're scared you can kill people like it seems like if you're scared you can do whatever you want i'm so i'm just waiting on the case where they you know fuck a you know sex worker and they're like well i was scared for my life
Starting point is 00:43:30 and i was like well because it seems like the get out of jail free card literally for cops is if they're scared and i was like if you are scared then you should like you should get your badge taken away i think that's not a hard thing that if you if you cannot in the line of duty we are shipping 18 year old boys off to countries where people want to kill them and they still have to follow rules of escalation in in in a place where people want to kill them and we are letting people off who are with civilians kill you are you that just doesn't add up and you a grown-ass man lots of these cops in their 30s you got 18 year old kids who can process like okay this this may be a brown kid in the middle i mean look they've been fucking up too but i think you know i they've been doing war crimes too but at least there's an attempt at a system in place
Starting point is 00:44:26 where it seems like with cops everyone just wants our hands off they have a separate bill of rights so that they cannot be punished yeah but if a doctor trying to save my life fuck up i could sue his pants off right right yeah yeah cops have the they're given the power of god like absolute power they can kill you or not and i can see why trey songs choked out a cop i can see why i need trey songs money because i need to be able to choke out a cop and be good i mean yeah it's it's truly because you can do anything and if even if you do the most heinous shit like uh assault somebody who's in custody or murder someone there's a trillion and one excuses they can make and somehow you're like that guy's on the street again yeah what the fuck and that's it's for that reason people should be
Starting point is 00:45:18 like at the very least if you're uncomfortable with the mess like because in your mind defunding the police you can't nuance that enough to say we need a redistribution of resources to go towards the people rather than the oppressors and things like that. Do this thought exercises. Is it is a cop someone who can be protected by most dimensions of this law to get away with whatever they please? That's really another. Just start there. get away with whatever they please that's really another just start there maybe if you don't like that then you lose that as your way into looking at the larger picture of what this all means all right let's talk let's talk about this uh story about using every last drop of the vaccine
Starting point is 00:45:58 is in the news there's like something with pfizer and you, them saying that, uh, projecting that they will get, I think, six doses out of every vial instead of five, which is what the healthcare providers were saying. Um, and I guess it's like, yeah, like, uh, theoretically you could get six out if we had this like super precise equipment everywhere in the field and we don't have that um but you know so that's like one of the theoretical conversations that that's happening um and this is just a a good illustration of how far we are from even that mattering even being able to distribute the vaccine yeah not only that i mean like they they have a chokehold on like they own the vaccine so we're at the at the fucking will of big pharma to be like don't let us die or or
Starting point is 00:46:54 how much a how much to not let me die is where we're at with big pharma they're not it should should have been like sorry motherfucker we need this for the good of Earth. Fuck you. And you sue the governments of the world. I don't know how that goes down functionally, but that's just another dimension of this. But yes, we see about constantly there's trouble with the vaccine rollout, people being like there has to be more efficient ways. Sometimes people are left with there's leftover lines and then they're trying to get as much vaccine out so they don't have to throw it away. But there's just another. It's nice to see that people understand that the vaccine is so dear and finite that no matter what, we cannot waste it just because that's just the situation we're in. So in Oregon, there is this group of health workers who are doing like a rural vaccination operation and they were trying to get back to like their main office.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But they were caught in traffic where there was like they're just in a snowstorm, basically. And they were sat there with about to expire vaccines. And the New York Times story goes on, quote, they know they only had six hours to get the remaining doses of coronavirus vaccine back to people who are waiting for their shots. Roughly 30 miles away. Normally, the trip takes 45 minutes. But with a jackknife tractor trailer ahead of them, the crew realized they could be stuck for hours. So the workers made the decision to walk from car to car, asking stranded drivers if they wanted to be vaccinated right there on the spot. So they said, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:48:22 We're getting rid of this shit. And fantastic. It seems a little bit sketchy, as they go on to say, quote, most drivers laughed at the offer of a roadside coronavirus vaccine and politely declined. Even though Mr. Weber said he had a doctor and an ambulance crew on hand to help oversee the operation, he acknowledged it was not the typical setting for vaccination. Quote, it was a strange conversation. Imagine yourself it was not the typical setting for vaccination. Quote, it was a strange conversation. Imagine yourself strained on the side of the road in a snow storm, snow storm, and having someone walk up and say,
Starting point is 00:48:51 Hey, would you like a shot in the arm? In the end though, they had enough people who one dude, they said, hopped out his car, ripped his shirt off and was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:49:01 it's in your arm, fam. Because people who are on, on meths also get stuck in traffic jams so that's true have you ever been in a traffic jam and uh somebody knocks on your window like somebody walks up that is the most unnerving shit ever like i was just i was driving i think it was like a cross-country trip or something there was a i think a jackknife tractor trailer like they're talking about in this story up ahead so everyone was just stuck there and like they knew the cars weren't going anywhere
Starting point is 00:49:33 and people were just like got out just pulling a everybody hurts on them yeah uh deep cut or i guess we shouldn't call them deep cuts we We're just old. So old person cut. But yeah, it was super unnerving though when the first person just like walks by your car. It's like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you feel trapped. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And they're not offering you a vaccine. Yeah, they weren't even offering a vaccine. The nerve. I know. Just trucker crank. Well, yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to put myself in the position of these people too we're like yeah i i mean i'm not gonna say no but i'm also very much
Starting point is 00:50:14 like what what are you trying to pull here why are you suddenly like i would have a lot of hurdles to get over before i'm like yeah sure guy who i mean yeah you got some medical equipment i don't know how to like quality control or qc a vial of moderna vaccine like exactly let me look on the internet and do some side by side legit check this shit real quick right like as somebody who uh has uh dealt with expiring milk in the past i know that it's not a thing where it hits the date the born on date and like a buzzer goes off and it's suddenly bad like that shit will go bad three days before sometimes or it'll stay good for a couple days after the born on date like it's not so i don't know like the this i i would
Starting point is 00:50:57 have been skeptical i would have taken it just because you know i feel like that's a situation where it's okay to ask for id oh you know what i mean but see then i'm like in my mind because this is this is where you're catching you're catching the wrong miles you know i'm probably high in my car already pissed i'm in a snowstorm right you're like hi would you like a coronavirus what the fuck a what a coronavirus vaccine fuck who the fuck are you are you fucking for real right now? That's true. Oh, we're some healthcare workers.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You're some healthcare. Get the fuck away from my car, motherfucker. Are you serious? That's true. I get, I mean, you know, I've gotten a, like, I'm sure this happens to everybody. I get a lot of weird kind of car-based cold calls at red lights. You know what I mean? And sometimes it kids sell him water
Starting point is 00:51:45 uh sure purportedly for a football team and then sometimes it's uh sometimes it's somebody who's got like some crazy offers i did not vaccine related but i did a few years ago this uh street called freedom parkway here in atlanta had a guy knock on my car uh and like knocked on the window and it was the middle of the day. It didn't seem like – I thought he was going to ask for money, right? So I rolled down the passenger side window a little bit. And his opener line is like, what if I told you – Yes, go ahead and say it opener.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, he's like, what if I told you I just got a winning lottery ticket? And I was like, congratulations, bro. I don't know. I started rolling the window up. And he was like, I didn't, but what if I bought? And his whole hustle was like, ask me to give him a dollar so he could buy the lottery ticket. The winning ticket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:44 He was split with you. He didn't even say it was splitting. No. Oh, I love that scam. Wonderful. Wonderful. You got to pay money to make money, man. Because in your mind, Jack or Ben,
Starting point is 00:52:55 wouldn't you be weary of some QAnon group of goofy people pretending to be giving vaccinations and poisoning you? You know what I mean? That's where my mind goes goes and it's not healthy but unfortunately when you when i'm in a snowstorm and you knock on my window i'm not going to be like oh hi vaccines well first of all you're going to be out doing snow angels because you're such a yeah because i've never seen snow yeah but uh yeah i'm also like the thing that immediately my my brain goes to is like i don't know how to judge medical like ids like i don't know what the right like he could be the
Starting point is 00:53:35 fakest id in the history of medical ids and it's like uh yeah okay man you still see the uh the original like blockbuster logo yeah there's a laminate right you're like this is a driver's license for a delorean from back to the future like hey uh yeah guys i'm not a doctor but this does look like a 20 off bed bath and beyond right mailing coupon yeah i don't know it's a good point like i think this is one of those stories where really it's surprising that six people said yes uh because we have this kind of cultural taboo about bob like knocking on people's doors in cars you know it's not associated with good news right right yeah but people are so desperate in in many cases for the vaccine. Like here, you know, here in Georgia, our the governor who fixed the election to become governor really shat the bed on on any kind of vaccination infrastructure distribution. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 We're talking about that. Yeah. My parents actually went. They're retired. They went and got the first vaccination after being on a wait, three different waiting lists for like two weeks. They got to a place at Walmart, a Walmart at 4.30 in the morning
Starting point is 00:54:52 to get an appointment for that afternoon. And they were getting the Pfizer one with two shots. They got there and they were told they would schedule the second shot when they got to the afternoon appointment. They showed up to the afternoon appointment and the person gave them the first shot. And they're like, all right, when do we to the afternoon appointment they showed up to the afternoon appointment and the person gave them the first shot and they're like all right when do we schedule the second one they said oh yeah things have changed try your best to find one nice that was well done
Starting point is 00:55:15 yeah that was it that was the governor cam yeah good luck good luck yeah good luck with that i'm sorry good luck with that isn't this a what uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal for you come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
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Starting point is 01:00:00 spelling errors but zoom out real quick let people know what we're even talking because most people like this only started began people started talking about the last day and if you're not fully right your ear to the internet you might not know what happened right so yeah uh miles uh the floor is yours why don't you explain oh yeah as the resident guy who just admitted he knows fuck all about finances i'm gonna toss this hot potato over to michael drucker oh hello hello uh now keep in mind that i'm gonna explain some of this wrong so someone will listen to this and go that's not what's happening and that's okay you're right yeah and so you have been on a podcast before so basically gamestop the stock itself has been
Starting point is 01:00:41 suffering for about a decade because nobody wants to buy video games in person anymore people order games off amazon they order them digitally you know people wait in line for playstation 5 but gamestop if you've been inside is sort of a dying store yeah so the stock price over the last decade or so has gone down super low to the point where i think it was somewhere like in the single digits at one point but right before this it was i think like 17 or so and there's this reddit uh group called uh wall street bets and what wall street bets is is basically them saying like them picking stock to sort of like an informal reddit group full of stock memes but they kind of encourage each other to do things and what they sort of realized was because gamestop stock is so bad that a lot of hedge funds were shorting it right and uh shorting it is where
Starting point is 01:01:25 i'm bad at explaining things basically it's what happens kind of in trading places uh yeah they gamble the best explanation yeah they put a bet that it will go down that it will lose money it's basically putting your money on them right you're saying basically i will buy it for full price because it will whatever. And then so what they did was the Reddit thread. They decided let's all buy it. So kind of like a legal pump and dump scam, sort of like back in the day when people try to pump penny stocks up by like everyone buy the penny stocks and then they dump them immediately.
Starting point is 01:02:01 That's what they did. They pumped up GameStop stock and because they were all buying it, everyone starts buying it. And as is the case with the stock market, because nothing makes sense, the more people who bought it, the more people were willing to spend on it, to the point where it's now worth like $300. What that did was it basically bankrupted a bunch of hedge funds that were like, did not expect to have to owe $300 per stock
Starting point is 01:02:23 of GameStop stock that they bought for $17 or even cheaper or whatever so uh yeah they owe a lot of money yeah yeah it's the hedge funds do which uh now the conversation uh that you're seeing is like the Biden administration is thinking about like bail or at least considering the question of whether they should bail out some of these head funds which i so the thing that is exciting to me about this is not i don't think it's a good a good time to now invest in gamestop because it seems like that's that's how some people are taking it and uh it seems like the jig is up a little bit like the people yeah like once it becomes a national news story that's when it's probably not a good idea to to put your money on it but
Starting point is 01:03:13 just the idea that a stock valuation can be completely independent from reality is something that I think we... It's almost like it works as satire of what has happened in the stock market for the past year with the pandemic and businesses downsizing, going out of business, firing people. It being for the average American one of the worst economic times ever and then the stock market being at its peak like peaking and not you know taking any of the damage
Starting point is 01:03:54 on and so like the idea that they were like let's just do that but to one stock and fuck over some of the people who've been benefiting off of that like in a very vague way where i don't understand any of the dynamics uh super producer on a hosnier understands the stock market and has kind of tried to explain it to me and i uh my brain resists it it's like i'm allergic to uh understanding it but yeah it's uh they're they're just in a turn in a broad narrative sense the idea that they are uh satirizing the stock market while putting a bunch of billionaires uh in financial trouble is is interesting to me yeah the secondary thing is watching like the fO play out though because
Starting point is 01:04:45 that's where it gets dicey you know like like I was saying before we went on mic like there are also in all the numerous interviews that came out of the story like there were people who saw what happened Monday when it was like when it was already taking off and got in or like I put in all my savings and I put $14,000 into it. And then they realized where they were at and they're like, oh shit, they had to sell it off. And they ended up losing like 600 bucks. But they're saying like, if I hadn't actually realized that I would have lost all of my money trying to just play this, like not knowing enough about the stock market and just seeing what I saw on Reddit and reacting to that. So it's a definitely, it's interesting to see who can benefit from it, who gets sort of like
Starting point is 01:05:29 sucked into the momentum of like wanting to play the game without knowing and then. Yeah. Ana Jose was trying to explain to me this morning, like what it made me think of. So in Shawshank Redemption, andy dufresne like locks himself in the office and plays the music even though he knows he's gonna get his ass kicked by the warden it's kind of like that is like how i think of what they're doing is they're like fuck these people and we know it's going to blow up in our face but there's a lot of people who are now getting in and who are going to lose their money so it's almost like if everybody who heard the music also got the shit kicked out of them which makes that scene not quite as cool it's like not great if he's
Starting point is 01:06:18 risking everybody else's safety right no exactly and also like you know there's people on that reddit thread who were in early enough where they made a crazy amount of money and they're probably i would get out right now as the fools are coming in it's really it is there's like i'm not as worried about those redditors as i am worried about like our parents and grandparents who are like oh i remember game stop all right i'll put yeah I'll put $8,000. You know what I mean? Like, that's what worries me.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah. I mean, Wall Street is inherently predatory, and there always has to be somebody who's a loser, right? Right. Who's going to lose out, and you can almost guarantee that it's not going to be the hedge fund billionaires in the end, like it may be in the short run. they cynically start like co-opting this reddit to start manipulating the markets through like redditors you know what i mean and really be like no but this is how we're
Starting point is 01:07:14 going to make move this is the new game right i mean really that's possible that's possible too is people just go okay this is what i got to do i create a persona online and try to put my own stocks yeah i mean like it is sort of the i think the people in that subreddit would hope like well they couldn't learn to like authentically like it's the sort of authenticity thing uh where that's the thing you can't fake that corporations are constantly trying to fake like trying to find a way to sponsor people who speak authentically and who communicate meaning to people authentically but yeah i i think the overall reason people are super excited about this is because it seems like what like a a very real sort of dynamic illustration of the haves and have nots and like
Starting point is 01:08:06 that, the breakdown in what the stock market is supposed to do, which is rep, you know, represent value in some real world way. And now it's currently like a game being played by mostly very wealthy people and they're able to fix the rules to insulate themselves from any sort of representation of the value. I just want to read what Anna wrote,
Starting point is 01:08:32 like explaining what shorting is. And so she said, shorting is when you borrow shares and then you sell immediately in which then you can grab them later for a lower price, give them back to who you borrowed them from originally, and then you pocket the difference. That couldn't be further from making sense to me. I'm so dumb when it comes to that. This market watch story is not helping when I Google what is sharing. And that's why I'm like, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm going to just deal with meme stocks now for the lols. Yeah, I've had shorting explained to me so many times, including in movie form by Adam McKay. And it's almost like looking at a photograph in Westworld where I'm just like, this doesn't look like anything to me. Like, I don't understand. Like, my brain just goes like, no, this isn't a thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because this, uh, Bloomberg article is like the way they make sense of this story is all about like, uh, them having these big breaks where it's revealed that, uh, some influential investor was actually long on GameStop. And that's like where these surges are coming from instead of like they really under underrate the idea that it's just like kind of being done uh yeah yeah like every like every established power group it's like that it could be even in politics like was it activists i don't know who knows yeah exactly actually i think it was actually because
Starting point is 01:10:05 joe biden was so appealing yeah you forget about that so let's let's ignore that maybe there are other things that could threaten the power structure right um but yeah i mean if they do bail out hedge funds like i think then this story becomes more significant because then it becomes a even greater affront to the or just like a greater illustration of the disconnect there yeah um and the fact that they are i i forget who wrote it on twitter but somebody was like so they've owed us two thousand dollars and haven't been able to get that out but they're going to manage to bail these hedge funds out the next week. It's just
Starting point is 01:10:50 frustrating. Yeah. It shows you who has a louder voice in these people's ears. You know what I mean? That's what you're competing against and when you have a ton of people, like when politicians are surrounded by these people, they think that's what the world is. It's like this saying i made up uh money talks is the thing that i like thanks
Starting point is 01:11:10 and finally let's talk uh disney's hall of presidents uh at disney world which is which is open i guess so did they get out well they've escaped and it's bad news for floridians so i guess it's closed right now as they're updating it with a uh robo biden but i hadn't really followed like the trump bot has already been a huge problem for Disney and the attraction now requires live human security guards because of the heckling and derision that Trump gets and they added large
Starting point is 01:11:54 spikes near the stage to protect the animatronic Trump which is very wild like anti-tank hedgehogs on D-Day? Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:12:15 I love the idea of the happiest place on Earth installing spikes to keep you away from something. It's just like they let a tiny little bit of politics through and it's just like explodes just have like george washington give a little speech and then abraham lincoln waves and get out like we don't need the the current president speaking yeah they apparently trump's robot waxes poetically about america which isn't just like a false representation
Starting point is 01:12:47 of him as a president. It's not what he wanted to record for Disney. According to one of his aides, Trump tried to brag about his private real estate business and make inaccurate claims while recording the speech he sent to Disney and they had to like edit around it. Honestly, the era of trump comedy is over but that's so funny to me imagining him in a recording booth and they're like this will take 15 minutes sir just just say the line and it taking eight hours yeah well don't you constant back and forth it's like that episode of the crown where thatcher is like has to give a take on apartheid and they're like what about this one he's's like, no, no.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Got to talk about Trump steaks. Got to talk about Trump steaks in this one. Sorry, it's a no-go. Like you have fucking Abraham Lincoln talking about the Civil War, then you get the fucking salesman Trump, the robot. Fuck. They're not good with politics, huh?
Starting point is 01:13:40 Maybe Disney should just keep their fucking head out of this shit forever. They're thinking of, instead of doing that that they're thinking of rebranding the attraction uh and there were rumors that they were going to completely overhaul it with input of lin-manuel miranda and weird al uh which you know what fine that would be yeah i would take that please sure let's just do something. Two talented musicians and a guy who famously doesn't say bad words. That feels much more wholesome to me than fucking anything. Yeah, fine.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Great. Disney always gets the great musicians in the end. They might be giants. They got them. Yep. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. That's one of my kids favorite songs it's the disney uh mickey mouse like clubhouse theme song by they might be giants uh i wonder what
Starting point is 01:14:36 current musicians will will be disney musicians in the future oh geez chance maybe oh yeah i could see chance the rapper doing kid rap oh yeah i feel like i feel like you you have a family phase once you hit like your 50s in rap you have your like five years of like we're gonna make kids movies and we're gonna make some fun music and then we're back to real exactly like if if ice cube can go from nwa to are we there yet right and you know west side gun and the whole griselda gang we could be doing a fucking kids bop versions of fucking all the hits and car db is going to be the new mr rogers like it's it's like at the end of the day it's about a check and if someone's willing to be like hey gangster guy you want to be a in a kid movie for money like uh yeah fuck it yeah Yeah, no, for sure.
Starting point is 01:15:25 I mean, and also like, you know, when you grew up and you're 15 listening to a rapper and you're, you know, 36 and you have kids, you still like that rapper. Yeah, right. Of course. You know, you're like, where's DMX's daddy daycare? I want to watch that. DMX did that Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer cover and people loved it. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Exactly. How the fuck did I miss that? DMX did a Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer cover? Yeah. A couple of years ago, but it's on Spotify now. Oh, shit. This is like when he wasn't using a computer at all, and he just got kind of sober, and every radio station he went to, people would be like, let's make a viral video with DMX.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Just get him to read this thing, or ask him if he knows about Google. Right. Because there's that. What the fuck is Google? Google! Ah! Ah! And you're like, okay, shit.
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