The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 162 (Best of 2/8/21-2/12/21)

Episode Date: February 14, 2021

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our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So, yeah. So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Kyle Ayers! Thank you, thank you. You know, as Christy Yamaguchi made, that's art. That name is art.

Yeah, it's, I mean... I would expect no less from that. I would be so happy if I thought of that. I wouldn't do anything the rest of that day. Do you know what I mean? I've done some stuff today. Yet he persists. Yeah.

The hustle. You've got to admire it. How was your week? How was that Super Bowl for you, Kyle? Oh, it was bad. As far as one isolated game, I'm a Chiefs fan. Right. I remember.

It was fun to answer the question does football have to be a team sport it turns we all got to answer it turns out yeah you need a team uh because can one man do it no will that stop him from trying absolutely not man that was like as bad as that game was for the Chiefs. Just some of the throws he was making, Patrick Mahomes, there was one throw, he was just running around for his life behind the line of scrimmage. He was making throws with his head almost on the ground. The greatest incomplete passes you've ever seen.

And it sounds dumb to be like, what a great incomplete. But he had that were dropped. That's what the most frustrating part is. Hit a man in the face mask in the end zone while throwing the ball while he's parallel to the ground. Had he caught that, the highlights still would have kind of disappeared because they lost. But would they have lost i don't think it's a hyperbole for me to say that might been the greatest throw i've ever seen in my life and it doesn't matter because you know how you like you always hear like the best this the funniest thing that's ever been said was probably not during a stand-up show the greatest basketball shot that's ever been made was probably a backyard

horse shot none of us saw. That was the greatest throw I've ever seen in my life, and it got dropped. It hit a dude in the face. It hit a guy in the face mask. He kept hitting people in the hands and the face mask, and they were dropping it. It is like if all of the catchable balls he threw had been caught, I don't know that you guys would have lost. The game maybe goes in a different path. Too many things went wrong to say that.

There were a lot of bad penalties that I disagreed with for the first quarter and a half. But then they did not have an offensive line, which you need. You need. It felt like, have you ever played a video game against someone who knew the buttons? Right. This is like if I've never played madden but i picked the best team i'm gonna get some weird plays by just hitting x do you know what i mean even if i don't know what's going on that's kind of what it felt like and it was not fun to watch but i'm still

you try and keep things in perspective sports fandom is such a bizarre thing if you think about it like it's a reality show i've been watching my whole life right and they finally rewarded my character like character last year after 30 years of them not beginning i was like so susan lucci emmy win it felt more like the peter o'toole oscar win where we were 140 years in and they were like, he might not be here next year. And so this is, I still have to be like, I can't believe that guy's the quarterback of the team I watch. Right. He's the most fun. Kansas City's never had the most fun player in any sport.

Now they have Steph Curry. Yeah. Which is like, he's probably the best and he's by far the most fun. Yeah, absolutely. So I just got to be happy to be there. I'm just, I am tired of Tom Brady, and that's not even his fault. Well, it is, but not a negative thing to him. What is something you think is underrated?

Okay, both of these are in honor of the 21st anniversary of Jim Varney's death. I'm going to say underrated, Ernest Scared Stupid. Okay. Overrated, Ernest Saves Christmas. Ooh. And I love Christmas and Christmas movies,

but I don't know. It's not, I think honestly maybe Ernest Goes to Jail would be my favorite, but Christmas gets a lot of shine and I feel like Halloween really maybe Ernest Goes to Jail would be my favorite. But Christmas gets a lot of shine. And I feel like Halloween really is Ernest's true holiday. And that's Scared Stupid is a Halloween film. Yeah.

That's the one like the pumpkin cover. I just know every Ernest film just had Jim Varney just giving that full. Like, I run grin. Barney just giving that full, like, I burn grin. I can't imagine how delicately they handled the carceral system of the United States in their analysis. The earnest goes to jail prism from the year 1990. This is why I think it needs more credit, because earnest across all of his properties, you would think would would go a little bit more racist. And he doesn't like at any point. No. Yeah, that is true.

I feel like that was the thing that my first assumption about a like Ernest thing because like, hey, I'm like, you talk like the scary people from the movies. My grandpa shows me the hills have eyes. Right. Right. And then you're like oh wait these are more kid friend then you realize like he's like he was like a good guy right yeah he's a really he was a very good guy yeah and like pretty diverse casting and yeah he just never goes this like sort of ignorant hillbilly route that he could have uh but yeah, RIP, man. Yeah. You're missed. That's an amazing story

that that started as a radio advertisement and like for a local car dealership. And then local. Yeah. That's wild. What was really crazy is he was like the local commercial guy, it seemed like. So he was advertising like a million different places

like in these small towns. Because you're just like, oh, you want a commercial? Get Ernest. He's the commercial guy. Right. You know, it could be like dueling pizza restaurants have the same guy in their commercial, essentially. Because he just had, it's such a good idea.

I should do this for the neighborhood restaurants. I'll do your commercial. 500 bucks. Just some food. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wonder if someone has an archive of the Jim Varney local ads. That's a documentary that needs to be made.

A lot of them are on YouTube. On YouTube? Okay, yeah. Because I'm curious to see what... Because it's such a specific flavor because the whole, hey, Vern thing was him breaking the fourth wall, wasn't it? Like Vern was the person on the other side of the camera,

wasn't it? Vern was all of us, Miles. Right. We were Vern. Oh my... But Vern is really stupid. He's way dumber than Ernest. So yeah, as a kid, you're like, I guess I'm Vern.

I'm Vern. I'm Vern. Was Vern, did we ever meet Vern in the films? I mean, you see his hands and stuff. Like he, you know, he's a person. He's like Claw from Inspector Gadget. Yeah. He's like a very dumb version of Claw.

You know what I mean, Vern? Yeah, he trademarked that thing. Yeah, shout out to him uh and and the earnest films uh which none of which i saw for some reason that missed me um so i need to i need to do my work i'm yeah i'm curious to see because it's funny that i know the last thing the last jim varney thing i sought out to watch was the beverly hillbillies right that was like two years ago. That was a lot of people's introduction to him. And then they were like, oh, he's got all these other, I mean, yeah.

But in the South, you know, he was a superstar forever. He's like Killer Bees. Do you guys know that comedian? Oh, no. I thought you were talking about the actual phenomenon of Killer Moose coming up from the south. No, there's this southern comedian named Killer Bees, and his tagline is, save up. You better save up.

Just like solid conservative financial advice is his catchphrase. Pretty much. Wait, what did Killer Bees look like? Did he dress like him like he had to have dressed in black and yellow right no he just looks like an old white guy i don't know he's really funny i can't i didn't know killer bees is just the comedian's name yeah it's pretty tight right like he's not a rapper he's oh b-e-a-z killeres. Okay. I mean, that is like one of those nicknames that like, yeah, his name is like Bees, his last name is Bees something.

They were like, hey, it's Killer Bees. Hey, it's Truett S. Beasley Jr. He just started killing so hard, people started calling him Killer Bees. Hell yeah. Yeah. That dude crushes. Save up. Yeah, I think they say it stemmed from

an incident in his childhood where a friend went into anaphylactic shock after a series of bee stings beasley then threw his epinephrine pen into the river uh and then his friend died giving him the name killer bees this is not real miles did you just make that up? Yeah. Miles. Allegedly. I just made that up on a joke podcast, okay? That wasn't real. I was so... It was so convincing.

Bit of improv. Bit of improv. Oh, that's amazing. For anybody who... Like, I was confused why they thought they could make a TV show out of the Geico caveman. They were trying to recreate the magic of, of, uh,

earnest, you know, just that that's, but that's next level. That's a next level talent. I mean, that's also hot podcast, kind of a hot young dude,

uh, back in the day. Like obviously, Oh, I think he's very attractive. Yeah. Oh yeah. When he was unburned,

you're like, yeah. Okay. Jim Varney. Yeah. attractive. Oh, yeah. When he was un-Verned, you're like, okay, Jim Varney. Yeah. Exactly what I said. Yeah. There's a picture of him as a young man just making love to the camera through his eyes. Not literally, just he's giving the camera a look that's like, damn, Jim Varney.

And that's when I knew I was Vern. We're all Vern. We're all Vern. Yeah. We all wish we were Vern. And Vern always kept his hands visible, so we know he wasn't touching the kid. Yeah, we were talking about that. Oh, that was before the recording.

That was off mic, but we were talking about the fact that the Wiggles keep give the thumbs up and all their pictures because they want people, the parents to know that their hands are not up to any shenanigans. They're not doing anything untoward, which is important. Yeah. Good policy when you're around children constantly for a living. Right. And then just any and like and just there will always anything that could look improper untoward you never want to be in a situation where you're like no i i just had my hand in my pocket and they're like uh we don't know buddy yeah and you're like okay this is why

i do this all the time now it's always thumbs up right and like but what's in their palms yeah exactly what is something you think is underrated so I I think I asked this morning while I was eating breakfast I asked my girlfriend both underrated and overrated she goes oh you think everything is overrated

and I was like okay what's something I think is underrated and she goes oh you think everything is underrated and I was like I can't be both and then I was like give me a specific example of either and she goes I can't think of any and i was like this sounds like a you thing this sounds like something you're projecting onto me no details but i think i think comedy acting is so underrated yes actual art form right i think that acting in a comedy is hard and I think it is underrated because people are like, look at the funny person being funny. I think, and I will, I say to this day often, Rachel McAdams deserved an Oscar nomination for Mean Girls and there are 10 equivalent performances every 10 years in comedy that no one else could do. could do it's so funny too because it's it's even the thing that actors acknowledge is harder than the thing they're constantly like lauded for you know when people like oh my god the dramatic

performance like i'm gonna be honest with you comedy is way harder than it's so much harder to be funny than it is to pretend to be lyndon johnson or whatever someone's winning it's actually hard to pretend to be Lyndon Johnson and that not be funny. Oh, you're talking about the new movie Lyndon B. Laughin'? He did use his AIDS as piss screens.

Yeah. And just like those calls. I mean, how do you do with a straight faced, say, bunghole like he does and like try and be like while being sworn in. be like while being sworn in right right while being sworn in with jackie jackie kennedy standing right there yeah bunghole i'm just saying it's a funny word faithfully execute the duties of this office upon my bunghole all right he has his entire suit pulled up over the top of his head like beavis

yeah cornolio pulled up over his head that dude is one of my like hey uh daniel o'brien uh from cracked and now uh last week tonight used to uh talk about like just there's all these wild stories behind the scenes. He would make reporters do interviews with him while he was pooping on the toilet because it was like a power move of some sort. He would show people his

what he called big jumbo because I guess he had a big penis. He exposed himself a lot to people? Yeah, tons. Why am I surprised that someone who runs the United States isn't also flashing their dick when they get the chance at something? Imagine running a country because a guy died and not having a weird ego. Right, exactly.

And then being like, well, he left me with a fucking mess of a country right now. Right. Fuck. Well, I mean, that's assuming that he had nothing to do with it which you've seen the picture why was he ever smiling um the yeah he's like looking at looking over at jfk like uh but sorry i distracted from your point which i think is a really good one the like it's definitely harder to pull off and like in the case of rachel mcadams like that is a more lasting performance than any dramatic performance from that year like culturally impactful uh sorry my

son is ramsey or he doesn't like this take he's he's been honestly laying on the ground and like stage yawning uh during like every time i talk just going oh man um oh man cold gas study oh you're on that one again but it's all just about how like that's a youth like the audience thing wanting to feel when they won't nominate any comedy movies for Oscars. That's just because the Academy voters watching it want to feel like they're doing something serious. And therefore, right. It's them. It has nothing to do with like the actual power or cultural impact. It does feel a lot like you you're right, it is jealousy.

I will say. I don't know what comedies came out the year Manchester by the Sea came out, but I bet there are a bunch of comedians who are good at being funny and can look like sad sacks of shit. And so I think that, nope, I don't know much about Casey Affleck.

I don't care to learn anything more about him. And I think he's been better in other movies, but that movie was just a guy being sad. And his version of sad was being quiet. And so he won an Oscar because a cinematographer was good at making him look sad. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Give me Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, which is comedic and dramatic. Give me Rachel McAdams in Mean Girls. Give me everyone in Bridesmaids. I don't know. Will Ferrell probably should have won an Oscar for Anchorman. We're still talking about it, and no one else could have done it like that. Absolutely. People just don't value it as an art form.

But then when they try and do it, they look a fool. Right. Yeah. Give me Casey Affleck using a baseball glove for cleanup like i'll take that over uh manchester by the sea yeah and i wonder if it's you know like they they're like you're saying jack like they can't really acknowledge how significant comedy is to culture and like how how much of a lasting impression that leaves on the audience like more people quote you know not that it's i'm saying this is needs to get an Academy Award, but more people will quote dumb and dumber than fucking saving Private Ryan or something like that.

Like there's there's something about comedy that like it really uplifts us and like we can draw upon something positive, just like with a recollection of it. And granted, of course, like dramatic acting is an of it and granted of course like dramatic acting is an art form in and of itself as well but it's not like impossible to do art form right and it's also wild yeah like so to not hold them up and be able to say like it's like the grammys saying like the only music is classical music right it's like yeah yeah exactly no you idiot what are you talking about like people turn up to all this other shit. I don't know if we need to just do, like, Oscars need to do what the Golden Globes do. But then, generally, the Golden Globes gives the best comedic or musical performance to whatever is the most dramatic thing that pretends to be a comedy. Like, Martian or something.

Yeah. The most dramatic movie that also made us laugh this year. Yeah. the most dramatic movie that also made us laugh this year. Yeah. I also wonder if there's something changing because like, uh, not to keep hearkening back to cracked.

I have, uh, cracked on my brain, but the first podcast we did on, uh, for the crack podcast was about like how, um, comedy like ages poorly compared to drama and like old comedy movies aren't really funny anymore except for like the marks brothers because they went uh town to town and just like honed these

jokes that were like funny irrelevant of what town they were doing it in um i i just wonder if like now it seems like things have like we still think Anchorman is funny. I don't know. You guys are younger than me, but like it seems like people. I think that fewer. I think I do think that fewer comedies hold up over long term than dramas that do. And I think even fewer dramas hold up than like an action like Die Hard is so old at this point by movie standards and feels like a movie that could have come out a year ago but comedies from that year there's like a naked gun sequel which has probably kind of funny but does i just you know doesn't hold up as much as

these other things so it seems to be like this the couple of comedies from most years that hold up whether it's like groundhog day or airplane or movies like that that hold up for a while but i i kind of think blockbusters tend to hold up the best. We still watch Jurassic Park. Yeah, that's true. Everything that isn't Avatar we'll still go back and watch.

Jaws, I think, is often cited as one of the movies that holds up the best. And that's a whole other Oscar gripe that I have. We don't acknowledge that these movies that influence culture more than anything else should get any sort of nomination for this stuff, let alone stunt people in movies, let alone acknowledging that computers help make movies now.

Academy Awards could be so much more fun. It feels like the Major League Baseball of awards. Where you're like, come on. That's kind of where the MTV mtv movie awards got it right where they get super specific like wow this fucking fight scene yeah and then you're like oh shit it actually gave you something like really you're like actually comparing like from blade two i'm like okay let's like watch this fight scene and trying to even i remember watching the shit and like talking to my friends like you really thought that was better from matrix okay

whatever okay like just make some more awards i don't know the john wick get nominated for nothing we all talked about it for four years right yeah exactly yeah but i guess that's where it's like what yeah i wonder if the academy can take itself a little less seriously and understand that like film itself is something much larger than like if the people who call themselves the academy can take themselves less seriously yeah it's you're talking about a bunch of people who work in something they call the industry and i say they i'm part of that but the industry maybe doctors should be the industry yeah and everyone making like racist lies that poison our brains like you think because like also too you look at a movie like crash that won best picture in 2006 that motherfucker doesn't

hold up at all it didn't hold up when it became a punchline in an hour of course i mean for people who had half a brain in 2006 you're like are y'all seeing this and then you're like okay so white people are in charge of everything and like it was hitting a little ally cord so people like oh that's so good that's so good so good yeah yeah they would never make that mistake again So white people are in charge of everything. And like, it was hitting a little ally cord. So people are like, Oh, this is so good. It's so good. So good. Yeah. Yeah.

And they would never make that mistake again. Two years ago with green book. I mean, how I would be so much more like they keep talking about, like people aren't as interested in the Oscars anymore. Like if they just did an award, that was the best, uh,

special effect in move in any movie. And you just got to see like how they did it. I would love that. That would be so fun. Like because they do that with like they have the like behind the scenes costuming and like all these things they do to honor those arts. But like, I don't know. That would be. Yeah. Behind the scenes.

Because, you know what? I feel like we lost like we sort of lost the magic of filmmaking of filmmaking too because we don't see as much behind the scenes stuff. Remember like on HBO, part of the whole marketing thing would be a 15 minute behind inside look at the making of a film that was coming out. And you get to see like them between takes, the technology being used. takes the technology being used and that for me as a child like anything that was behind the scenes anything always had my imagination going even further because i'm like oh wow like this is how you do it these are jobs you could have this that and the other and i think because like with that content being less there it's like we're just focusing like the actors more and we think like the one thing you do is be pretty in front of camera and talk yeah but all the other arts you always hear

stories about how those behind the scenes are what prompted so and so to become a filmmaker or so and so to get every time you ever see any visual effects person they're like i saw a 10 minute behind the scenes about how a head exploded in evil dead and i wanted to do this and now i'm and i'm that's beautiful the credits are so long right yeah the credits are so long. Right. Yeah, the credits are so long. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we will be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and, of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this.

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We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented Tess Lynch. Hello. I'm back. You're back, baby. Thank you for having me. Also, your son is so cute. Hi. Ramsey, you want to say hi to Tess and Joelle? Hi, Tess and Joelle.

Hi. Hi. Yeah, yeah. Every time. So cute. Tess, how have you been? What have you been up to? Oh, my God. Nothing. I've been up to nothing, just like everybody else. My main story arc over the

past 10 months or whatever, I had a podcast with my friends Molly and Emily. And since we ended that podcast, I have just been doing nothing. I know, boo. Boo that you ended it, not to the podcast. Boo that we ended it. The podcast was yay uh but i've been mostly sitting in my backyard with my kids while my neighbors um have been playing the billy joel album the stranger and it's taken up my entire brain for the past however long it's been happening for a while hasn't it yeah it started in march and it's at least once a week and they play The Stranger in its entirety, usually on Friday nights, but they'll mix it up now. I mean, over the past three weeks, they've played it maybe three times a week and sometimes at random times of day.

And you're never in the mood. You're never in the mood. The whole album though, Jack. The whole album. It's leaving a really distinct impression. What are the hits off of that album? Scenes from an Italian Restaurant is the best song on that album by far. Yeah, that's a classic.

Yeah. I'm never not in the mood for that one. But I mean, then there, you know, there's a lot at the end. The final song, which I like forget the title. It's also, it's not super loud. So it's just enough that it like makes you feel a certain way, but sometimes you can't even identify it. Sometimes they'll play it super quietly, and you're just like, why do I feel like there's a weird New York City jazz kind of vibe in the air? And they go, oh, it's The Stranger.

Yeah, those are classics. Oh, I see. Bottle of Red. Moving Out. Yeah, they play that whole Anthony song. those are classics bottle of red moving out yeah they play oh moving out yeah

that whole Anthony song but you know what it doesn't hold up as well after like 30 plays moving out moving out was one of my top 10 Billy Joel songs and now too

I'm like digging into the you know later catalog just to balance it out so I'm doing like I go to extremes keeping the faith yeah yeah

do you ever find yourself just accidentally going into like a... A hundred percent. Yeah. Like, hey, could you turn that back? Sorry. It's Anthony's song. Sorry, guys. I'm Anthony now.

Joel, what were you going to say? Just that I'm really sorry they're ruining like some of my favorite billy joel songs are on this album like vienna is great like jams and i feel like it's unfair that they are ruining it for you but i'm glad that you have found a way to bring a balance to your billy joel discography also do you think after a year they're gonna get tired of it is there any like slowing down of the progression of their listening? No, it's picking up. It's picking up.

And they'll add other things like it's bookended. It's often like they bookend it. Elton John might be a lead in. ELO might follow. But there's variation there. You know, the stranger remains the same. But I do have to say I like Vienna also. And it's, you know, I mostly associate it with 13 going on 30 yes where

it's employed to great effect but it inspired an episode of taxi i did not know this yeah and it's in the wikipedia and i was like oh and now i should like go back and watch that episode of taxi but then i was like no i've had enough i don't need to do this to myself you gotta complete your six degrees of Billy Joel separation. Yeah. Go diving deeper and deeper into a hole. Totally take over someone's life by just playing a Billy Joel album

over and over again. It is a method of control. Absolutely. Psychologically seeding them. If you are currently at war with your neighbor's DZ gang, helpful hints here for you. Just start playing that album.

It's torture it is but have you ever thought about how like sometimes you'll look in the mirror and the person looking back is a stranger to you the stranger is yourself yeah like we're all like we all and this is gonna blow your mind but it's all it's almost like we all wear masks sometimes whoa oh man but that does seem uh pathological at this point i don't think they're gonna be like yeah okay we've had enough it seems like it's no now it's a now it's a lifestyle it went from like a fun thing to like now it's a joke and now it's like we're jumping the shark and now it's just an earnest commitment. Yeah. And there's no turning back. Well, speaking of white supremacy,

let's talk about the, you know, long-term trend, but recently even more troubling trend of anti-Asian racism in America. Yeah, there's, you know, I hate crime that happened recently in the bay area uh and it's part of a a broader trend to uh asian american actors got involved with um you know offering a reward to solve the case and like so it's finally getting some attention. But this has been a long-term issue. It's just anti-Asian racism is really wild. Being black and Japanese American, it's weird to kind of reconcile what it means to even be American.

Looking through the lenses of the collective experiences of like asian americans and african americans um you know obviously like we had been saying at the beginning of the pandemic when motherfuckers are out here calling shit wuhan flu or china virus that racist rhetoric was just helping to laser focus all that hatred into what we're now seeing is like just record year of hate crimes against asian americans and you know it's nothing new but it occupies a very unique blind spot in american society and media just because especially through like the evolution of like the the model minority the asian model minority that was was emerging in like the middle of the last century

but like you know we kind of have to start at the gold rush because you kind of got to see, you're not going to understand, like you can't understand anti-black racism without talking about slavery, right? So you can't understand anti-Asian racism without understanding the beginnings of immigration from Asia into America. So in the beginning, the gold rush, okay?

That's when it all kicked off everybody was trying to get to california in the 1840s and 50s to fucking strike gold that was one of the first significant influxes of asian immigrants and chinese people specifically they were about one-fourth of the miners uh during the gold rush but obviously because you have a white majority or dominant class they looked at these perceived intruders and started engaging in violent terroristic acts of racism to base to oust them from the mining and that relegated a lot of these chinese immigrants to lower wage jobs which is the railroad and farming and things like that and then then slowly they began codifying these

into like chinese exclusion act and saying and saying, you know what? You can if you want to kick a motherfucker out because they're Chinese, go do you, honey, because this is a law now. And that sort of momentum evolved. So once there was a smaller population of Chinese workers to work farms and things like that, the Japanese came in and that was the next. And then that's the next group who, okay, they're going to work the farms. It's like, damn, they did a lot with all that little bit. And now they're starting to succeed a little bit. Okay, well now we need new laws to kind of make shit hot for them.

And then Filipino Americans came in and they liked that better because Filipinos were part of a country that was annexed by the United States and felt like there was a little bit more of a parallel crossover to work in the United States from the Philippines. So all this like moment it's it's been happening since you know the beginnings of of asian immigration and that essentially leads to fucking what we saw during world war ii japanese people japanese americans literally put in concentration camps for years because of pearl harbor yet italian and german americans

you'll do your thing. You know what I mean? Because, because you're white. And that's just how, that's just how it goes out here. So it's just like this, you know, looking through all of this, you're like, it's always a thing that has existed, but we don't teach it. So we don't really think of it as a huge part of our American cultural history, but it's also like this evolution of

like the model minority in the 60s, because a lot of people were pointing at Asian Americans who are succeeding as a way to sort of fuck up the dialogue or conversation around the pursuit of civil rights for black people. Because they're like, well, these Japanese people are like they have their own businesses and are going to colleges and they're doing so well, like minorities are able to succeed in this country, like as this count fucked up counterpoint. And I think that has also led to this very weird, you know, monolithic perception of what an Asian American person is, which is typically like, oh, there are people who can make money who are maybe achieving higher levels demographically, academically, or higher incomes. So what that also does is it sort of erases the nuance of what the Asian American community

looks like. It's like Nepalese Americans face all kinds of high levels of poverty and unemployment. Same with Hmong people. Like it's not just Chinese, and indian americans which i think everyone's just like see asians are good they're good you see them they're doctors they got and so it when we have all these acts of of racism it's it's not quite registering for people like it's like oh god oh that's awful but it's not sort of I don't think seen as the same level of violence or the sheer terror it causes for a community because of these other examples. It's not part of the narrative of what the experience is for an Asian-American person.

So, I mean, when you look at like what's happening, especially with in the Bay Area, you know, in San Francisco, an 84 year old man from Thailand, he died after being attacked on his morning walk. There was in Oakland, a few people in the Chinatown in Oakland there were getting shoved, attacked, robbed. You know, people were taking cash out for Lunar New Year. So people were like, they're going to get God. Like, that's just the thing people were thinking because people are walking around with more cash. And all of this is still happening even when you look at what's happening like in our schools, because there is this report that came out that like Asian American Pacific Islander students in California were the group that were most likely to experience bullying. And on top of it, like a majority of students, when they were talking about what kind of

racist rhetoric is normalized, it seemed to be that a surprising amount of students are like it seems like asian jokes are like are not as offensive even though it's the same territory of it as a racial joke um so we're having to have this real reckoning with what it what this what the conversation has been between america Asian Americans, because no one is actually, I think, because for me, I wasn't taught about any of this shit in school. And I grew up in California.

It took my parents to be like, do you, what, what you said in the gold rush? What are they saying about Asian people? Right. Right. Huh?

What? That they liked to do laundry. Yes. Oh, okay. No, but I'm saying like, because we don't have these, uh, That they like to do laundry? Yes. Okay. No. But I'm saying because we don't have these real conversations about our history as a nation for the mistreatment of any group, be it indigenous people, Latinx, whoever, we're only doomed to keep repeating these sort of things and i feel like it's really happening again right now because this isn't this isn't it's not a conversation that's had enough about like observing anti-asian racism and what that means and what everyone's part is and trying to combat that um so yeah it's

and there just needs to be better i think education too across minority groups right like if you want to take a look back and you know we're talking about the japanese internment camps right i think it's something i didn't even know until i was in college and actually kind of like really diving deeper and studying different things and one of the things that i studied in college i have a degree in latin american history and one of the things that i had no idea about until i literally took latin american history was something called the bracerro program the bracerro program happened around the 1942, 1943, 1945, which is coincidentally the exact same time that we are interning Japanese Americans who at that time were the primary source of agricultural labor. So the United States government had to figure out a way to pick all these crops

because they had put people in internment camps that were picking these crops. So what they did is they made a deal with Mexico to allow workers to come north to work for seasonal portions of time. So sort of temporary ability to come in and primarily up and down the state of California specifically. So you also started seeing animosity between groups because you were seeing Mexican people coming in, taking work from Asian jobs. You have to kind of look at how all these pieces sort of pattern and network together, you know, and it's important because the country, you know, our governments have done the same thing to all of these groups. Like you said, what we've seen with Native American people, what we've seen with Asian people, what we've seen with Latinos, what we've seen with black people, like it's the same playbook,

but it's done in a way that sort of silos and makes these communities more wary of other communities and other minorities and white people in general. And until we start putting this together and really speaking openly and really start leveraging and understanding that we need to speak up as within our own racial groups and also as racial groups as a whole against the government, like we're never going to get anywhere. There has to be acknowledgement of this stuff. There needs to be education. And that's one example. There's been so many examples of that that basically are institutionalized racism yeah and it's wild too because even within communities right because even with my black cousins i was jackie chan you know i was jet lee or whatever

and but then i don't i'm not letting my car what the my family what the fuck am i gonna say you know like it's it's love or whatever but then you get older you got to actually realize we actually have it's so casually said yeah there's never a checking of it's like you're not gonna reduce me to this one version of a celebrity or whatever you you're touchstone for asian culture like it's the same shit like if someone come to you and some white guy called this oh hey what's up kobe bryant or some fucking dumb shit about whatever black celebrity it's the same shit and i think yeah it's it's it's just like over the summer where you know i found myself imploring people to check anti-black racist talk or any kind of fucking discriminatory language that it has to start within where you were at because you don't want people to think you're somebody who you can say

shit like that or you can you can perpetuate these kind of um discriminatory perspective race it's fucking racism called racism you know what i mean um so and now it's the same thing but i think it's now it's like do we have to keep pointing out? It's like, OK, so the summer's for black, anti-black racism. The fall is for Asian. The fall is now awareness around anti-Asian racism. When it's like, what the fuck are we going to do? Don't hit women again?

Like, come on, like, guys. Yeah. And it's not again. And it's not it's not always necessarily about white supremacy but it can because it can happen within groups that aren't white but in terms of understanding like what we're seeing like we also have to know like this country was also letting americans know like we don't really give a fuck about asian people you know what i mean and that's the thing that taste is historically still in the you know sort of the back of everyone's mouths, whether they know it or not.

And, you know, and in the Bay Area, you know, where the first, you know, significant group of Asian immigrants are coming to. We're still seeing this play out centuries later. And I think that's what's important is. And even in the United States, we're still replaying the same things because we're not actually taking the second to be like. I can't believe we did that as a country. Yes, exactly. And we really should have never done that. Acknowledgement and reflection. Yeah.

Don't try to explain it. Don't try to contextualize it. Just acknowledgement and reflection. Yes, this occurred. And no, that is not good. It is absolutely bad. How can we make sure this never happens again right yeah plans of mooching forward it took like the 80s for a congressional fucking committee to be like i think the japanese internment uh program was based on racial prejudice like oh my god

the 80s but that's that's the pace at which we have these mini reckonings that, you know, at the end, don't seem to have the effects that we need them to. I mean, it does go back to white supremacy because, like, even, you know, no matter what group you are that's being discriminated against, like, it's impossible not to let that poison like seep in let that lie oh yeah i mean i i meant that not that it's like obviously internalized white supremacy but not to say

that this is only occurring with white people against whoever you know what i mean like so yeah like even from colonialism right exactly it's all internalized of coming here and that now that there was a white person from a europe country that, oh, now we have brought civility. You know what I mean? And eschewing any native cultures that are there to begin with. Right. And it just gets replaced. It just gets replaced.

It just gets replaced. The way is the Germans were treated like the the go to villain of history because they are you know the they symbolize evil right like the german nazis the way german nazis were treated in pow camps there's a pow camp in alabama where they were treated like a part of the community welcomed into the community nazi pows you know after the fact like actual like people who had roles within the nazi government and the nazi war effort were welcomed into the u.s government like that yeah it's they make sure that you can't miss the message you know right it's pervasive it's like well yeah they were on some fuck shit a couple of years ago, but they're going to help us make big bang bangs now. So, you know, all is all is forgiven. But yeah, it's it's I didn't even realize, you know, like that even California, right, that groups really indicative of the work that still has to be done

because that's where you're seeing if that's happening in schools now this shit is not going away for at least 50 years in california where you know what i mean like that's you and if so we have to actually we have to do all this work now to ensure a better future for every you know we might see it we might see a glimpse of it but at least we got to do something to let leave something good for the next generations to come along and not have to deal with this shit all right let's take a quick break and we will be right back when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of

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