The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 17 (Best of 3/26/18-3/30/18)

Episode Date: April 1, 2018

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Starting point is 00:02:07 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist what is something that you think is overrated if you i think overrated is being on the wave of the outrage where like you're like
Starting point is 00:02:48 okay like i i hate seeing the same message over like the same take over and over like i feel like it is better if you amplify the voices that have already said what you're trying to say rather than just be like oh i read that and i'm gonna yeah and I'm gonna say it right you know like I feel like I see this a lot where like one person is you know calling something out or talking about something I think the one thing that has been um going on recently is just the kind of obvious difference in how you know uh protest black people protesting versus like the parkland kids protesting and i feel like you know a lot of people have been having that conversation in a way where it's like yeah this is a problem uh we should address but also we should keep in mind that you know this is the first time everyone's on board but then i feel like it turns to a game of
Starting point is 00:03:43 uh telephone where it's gotten to the point where some people are like fuck these parkland kids and it's like no no no no like i get what you're where you're coming from but you can you know we we are complex human beings we don't have to just say one or the other we can be like this support this but also realize this yeah right and sad that that's the those are the voices that are clearly getting the most ears. Well, and it's because people take that and then they have an emotion about it. And then they just say it instead of just sharing this voice of like where the fringe tries to make the hottest, spiciest take and not necessarily try and like, you know, really spread the take. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Because what these kids are advocating for is something that everyone will benefit to. And I think, yeah, if people are really upset, clearly they have a reason to be because these kinds of problems have affected many other communities in a much greater way. But again, yeah, it's like, sure, I get that this is somehow the way that people are starting to listen, but this is America, and I think we knew that this is sort of how shit has been working. Sadly, I'm not resigned to that fact, but we have to be real of what the reality is of how sort of these kinds of rhetorical discussions and how movements work in this country. Yeah, and also it's just like if you're paying close attention the kids are aware of that the kids
Starting point is 00:05:09 are so much ahead of the woke curve than we are and it's because they probably spent most of their time on tumblr before this all happened like they like they they've been checking their privilege and like really trying to lift up black voices as they move forward. And that's what's cool is you got all these people because – and I feel like that's what happens when things start growing is people try and nitpick and find holes in – because no one can just rise. You got to find something wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Just the same way like they lift you up so they can tear you down. Human nature, baby. And so I feel like it's getting to that point where they're trying to find something wrong with it. Just the same way. Like they lift you up so they can tear you down. Human nature, baby. And so I feel like it's getting to that point where they're trying to find holes, but the kids are ahead of the game. Like the holes that you're trying to point out, they've already been working on fixing that. It's like Twitter wokeness judo. It's like,
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm going to use your wokeness against you to show that I am even more woke than you. And it's just like, no, we can just both have good points. The New York Times podcast, The Daily, this morning actually interviewed some kids from inner city Chicago who have been working on gun access and restricting gun access, making it less easy for people to smuggle guns into Chicago.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And they are sort of jumping on this Parkland thing. And while acknowledging, yeah, the reason that this is being, becoming a national issue is because they're, like, the households in their community make three times as much as the households in our community. And that's fucked up. But this is our opportunity. Yeah. And, you know,, but this is our opportunity. Yeah. And, you know, getting a national stage and using that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Word. What a... Yeah, yeah. Mic drop. We wanted to talk about the March for Our Lives that happened over the weekend. I know a lot of people who were there. I didn't get downtown today. You guys go? I was recording the Bechdel cast. Oh, right. But my mom lot of people who were there. I didn't get downtown today.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You guys go. I was recording the Bechdel cast. Oh, right. But my mom went in my stead. Nice. To represent you. I was at the Kids' Choice Awards. Yeah, you're really out here for these kids.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah, yeah. See, people want to march for the kids. I'm trying to be up. Trying to get slimed. I was going to say, like, I met with them. But I was saying, you know. That's tricky wording know that's tricky wording that's tricky yeah yeah anyways we'll move that along a lot of people did go there
Starting point is 00:07:30 and uh fox news didn't really know how to react to all these you know young elementary school kids like uh uh crooked media went down there and interviewed all the people on the street and it was like you know these 11 year olds who like told their grandma they wanted to come down. And like so they drove for like hours to get there to go to this protest and just this really intense outpouring of just organic sort of democratic energy. Organic? Well, we'll see. Fox has a word or two to say about that. So let's hear how they tried to cover the march for our lives.
Starting point is 00:08:12 There's something to be said for this. I mean, that's that's hundreds of thousands of people. And I had conversations, a lot of them. And they really have no idea what they're talking about, especially with guns. Kind of feel sorry for some of them without putting them on the spot. But they seem to be very, very misguided. But there's emotion, and emotion drives politics. Well, I mean, I think we had talked about the fact that this march was going to take place. And one of the things that Peter Doocy had mentioned was that initially it felt like
Starting point is 00:08:37 it was more organic, that there was some students getting together after the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, Florida. And then now it's almost as if it's a celebrity movement. It's Hollywood feel. And that's what I wanted to ask you about. So I definitely feel a lot of that. It's a blend of all these different forces. A lot of students were being bussed in, which is to be without said.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And you could tell by the T-shirts and the big coach buses that are in. I was asking, who's paying for this, first of all? I mean, it is highly organized. There's 10 or 12 coach buses coming in with police escorts as I was driving in. Here's the funny thing. First of all, they're using armed guards for this whole thing, which I think is one of the greatest ironies of a gun control march. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So a couple things there. But was it USDA organic? Right. Do we know how organic this march was? Right. So first of all, I like just the condescension that where he's like that these people don't know what they're talking about around guns. They just want gun control, I guess. But then she refers to the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, which sounds like it's like a silent auction fundraiser for like a private school or something. Or like a sale at a fucking car dealership.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Right. Come in for the Valentine's Day event of the year. Right. So it was just a fun Valentine's Day event that they're responding to. And they all decided to have this get together. But clearly they were being funded by high level. George Soros. Soros or hollywood royalty because how else could these
Starting point is 00:10:07 filthy paupers afford the notoriously luxurious mode of transport that is the fucking bus oh man well also it's it's like wow you guys are crying over and being afraid of the kids and you think the way you're going to win their support is just by shitting on them. And it just goes to show you just this kind of change of tradition that's happening because their mindset is that you're wrong because you're a child. Not because you're actually wrong, but you are wrong because I'm an adult. And it's just like Danny DeVito's monologue in Matilda. You know? Whoa. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I hit you with that deep cut. But this is the main reason they're going to lose this generation is because they feel like they don't have to fight for them. They're like, no, you need to listen. You're misguided. And you are only helping push them away more because you are shitting on these people and when you say the irony is that they have armed guards in a gun control rally just proves yet again you don't know what gun control is you're just right you are the misguided one right they object to the idea of guns and think that guns shouldn't exist is like how they is right versus like their version let's do the bare minimum and at least
Starting point is 00:11:25 ban uh weapons that professional people in the military use in war but this is why they're so good this is why they're a great propaganda outlet because they take the most cartoonish version of the other side's argument and they're like okay so they you know this is an organization that has three very clear things they want to get rid of certain weapons. They want the minimum on background checks and like one other thing that I can't remember because I'm a – You're an old. You're an old. I'm an old and I'm also an ill-informed liberal.
Starting point is 00:11:56 But instead of talking about those specific talking points and things that the marchers are asking for they're like they think guns should never have been invented and they want them to disappear magically right uh which no nobody has ever what's next these invisible guns are gonna be marrying each other that never existed like whoa hold on you're you're messing up all your weird uh yeah psychopathic but it but it is weird i said this in the last podcast uh the last episode I was on, and I'm going to say it again. It is weird to see this outlet using Alex Jones talking points, like trying to use the crisis actor angle. And what's even more pathetic is them pussyfooting it to be like, well, you do the math. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you're going to do that, if you're going to make that kind of disgusting statement, then actually have the balls to say it. Don't right. Don't pussyfoot around it. Like it's just it's really pathetic. Like it's it really is. That's exactly right. They also had a segment where one of their men on the street went out to interview some of the kids and asked them what they thought of the Second Amendment. And, you know, most of them were just like, it's outdated or it's made for a different time. And then they cut back to the Fox in-studio team and they're like, ha, yeah, just tear up the Constitution, I guess. And then one of the guys on Fox and Friends is like, they don't learn about the Constitution in class. And first of all, like everything the kids say is right.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Obviously, they like leave in the ums and ahs to make them seem dumber. It's very like Jay Leno, jaywalking type thing. But so they make them seem as dumb as possible. But everything like the content of what the students are saying is true. It was literally made for a different time, and labeling the Second Amendment outdated is such a reasonable position that a Supreme Court decision in 2008 brought it up. It was a dissenting opinion, but Justice John Paul Stevens was like, look, I don't think that the framers of the Constitution were thinking about handguns when they gave militiamen the right to keep muskets.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And like, that's a completely valid argument. But basically, they show these kids having valid arguments and they're like, oh, yeah, sure. What's so funny is that they're like, oh, yeah, no, it still holds up today. Our childhood movies don't even hold up today. But this document does oh yeah i mean also to the guns they were even talking about then them just took like 40 seconds to shoot yeah so in their mind there wasn't like they're like well you know one of these right cycles will get loose with a musket something could happen uh you know again very
Starting point is 00:14:41 different times and these people yeah they were they're not soothsayers. They were impossible to aim also. They were so hard to aim that, like, you know, once people invented rifles like we have today for the Civil War, that was the reason the Civil War was so bloody is because the generals weren't used to weapons that you could actually aim straight. Right. And so they, like, fought the war like you were just running up to people and like blasting at them in their general direction and but because the weapons actually fired straight like lots and lots of people died because they just didn't they hadn't adapted their tactics for a world in which straight like straight shooting effective weaponry existed and they had in mind when they wrote the Constitution, same deal.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like they were thinking of muskets and shitty, you know, things that fired round, things that knuckleballed out into the air. And who the fuck knew where it was landing? Casey, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you know to be false? Yeah, let's get into this. So I am HIV positive and I feel like not enough young, cool, hip, beautiful people know that young, cool, hip, beautiful people can also be HIV positive in this day and age. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. And so that's basically a myth because I run up into that. I talk about it in my comedy and I can sense people getting tense sometimes when
Starting point is 00:16:03 I'm talking about it. And I just want to like relax and know that like if you're hv positive in this day and age you're fine and it's like um kind of like fun to talk about you know it gives me my in is that because the treatment has become just advanced so much over time because i remember like back in the day like in the early night people used to look at it much differently. Oh, yeah, of course. It was a much different thing. I mean, when we were... Yes, treatment is amazing. I take a pill a day, and I'm going to live forever. I just have a joke in my head.
Starting point is 00:16:35 How do I get that pill? Yeah, well, so there's a variety of things. You go to your doctor and ask for it. And also, you get HIV. Oh, wow. You need it. But there's also... So there's so much to talk about in this and we only have a short amount
Starting point is 00:16:48 of time. But one, like the treatment is so good that there's something called undetectable where I'm medicated to a point where like there's no trace of it in my body whatsoever. Right. Oh, okay. And so I can't even, and studies have confirmed this, I can't even give it to another person while I'm undetectable. So as long as I'm medicated in this way, which I will be forever, I can't actually transfer
Starting point is 00:17:11 the meds. So it's important to talk about so people know that. You're actually more likely to get HIV from a sexual encounter with someone who doesn't know their status and while using a condom, then you are having unprotected sex with someone who knows their status and is undetectable because of medication. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So that's like, so it's important to kind of put that information out into the world because there's also a lot of people who are like, ew, gross, you're HIV positive, I would never have sex with someone who has that. Right, right, right. Because you're diseased and dirty
Starting point is 00:17:43 and gross and I want to catch it. Right. And that's a point of view that should be debunked. Wildly flawed, yeah. So there's that. And yeah, so it's just something that I think is not talked about because I think a lot of people who are also HIV positive in this day and age
Starting point is 00:17:59 don't want or feel a need to talk about it so much, especially publicly because it adds a stigma on top of you that you don't need. And let's be real, a lot of those people are already stigmatized from a group of like, whether it's being gay, or whether it's having had drug issues, or whether it's, you know, sex work, stuff like that. So I think that you're just adding another level of stigma on top of it. And I just kind of want to get it out there that, you know, it's, it's not something that you need to be ashamed of or feel stigmatized by because it's normal. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Right. You know, it's just another thing. And I'm, I it's, it's been, it's been an interesting road and all of this. Um,
Starting point is 00:18:37 but as I've like talked about it more and more, I now know like every single standup comic who has herpes, uh, I know like everyone just tells me. And I'm like, by opening up in this way, a lot of people feel comfortable opening up to me about all sorts of stuff. And you just realize how normalized or how prevalent and how normal it should be to just talk about the fact that people fuck
Starting point is 00:19:02 and sometimes they get things. And that's just the way the world works and i'm not saying don't be safe and i'm not saying don't take responsibility but also like you're human yeah and let's address this you're human culture yeah exactly shame is really this big issue that shame i'm all i'm all in on brené brown's uh uh books about releasing shame shame is a very debilitating human emotion. I guess it's an emotion. And as we get older, it's about trying to lose all of that
Starting point is 00:19:31 and just kind of fully actualizing your full true self. Yeah, self-acceptance, baby. Self-acceptance, baby. Who's Brene Brown? Brene Brown is an author and I think she's like a sociologist, but she's focused a lot on shame and the debilitating aspects of shame and how shame runs a lot of the world. I mean, a lot of the way that people act.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, and our behavior, right? Yeah, and so, and we all have shame. We just get it at different levels and we're all like imbued with shame. And I think growing up as a queer person in this society, you just are, you just know shame. You know, you were raised in shame. You were told to be ashamed of yourself.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And it takes a long time to relinquish a lot of that. And then the HIV thing on top of that. So I kind of got it in my mid twenties, kind of. No, I did. Okay, I was about to say that. No, I did. Yeah, I got a little bit mad and I got a little bit more on later.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Drips and drips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I had just kind of come, I had like, I came out of the closet around like 18, 19. But then I went to school in a very like middle of nowhere kind of place. So like I didn't like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it took me a little while to be like, to be super cool and open, you know? And then I moved to San francisco and i was like
Starting point is 00:20:46 i'm gay as fuck and then within like eight months i was hiv positive and i went back into another like shame closet as a result of that so i just and it took me a while to get out of that as well so i just it's just it uh it was a bummer and i wish i had had more people in my life at that time being like hey it's cool right you're gonna be fine through this you're gonna live through this and you know because i initially at 24 i thought i was gonna die right and then it took me um a while and a lot of people to be like and a lot of experience to be like no you're gonna be fine right and literally i'm gonna live longer than most of the straight male comics you've ever seen because like their disease is up in their brain you know so much but um yeah well shout out to
Starting point is 00:21:25 medical progress yeah baby yeah because I used to think that like Magic Johnson was the only person that had access to that kind of health care you know what I mean like back in the day that was like oh well magic's a different thing I think that was true for like a year or two at the time he had that access but even to this day yeah right but even that I mean
Starting point is 00:21:41 like he could have there's a combination of things too I mean like AJV has never been an absolute definite 100% death sentence to everyone who's gotten it. There are different types of, bodies react to it different ways. Right. The immune systems are different. There are things called elite suppressors where the disease never even advances without, like, you don't even need medication in a lot of ways. So people have lived for decades with it. And Magic was, I think he went full board on like,
Starting point is 00:22:07 I'm going to be the healthiest person in the world from this point on. And he did. But he's like the biggest example. But there was tons of people who lived for decades. And also it was in the mid-90s that the drugs got better. Not amazing, but that's when the tide turned on the plague and the crisis. Because up until that point, there weren't drugs. There were drugs that could sustain life,
Starting point is 00:22:28 but there weren't drugs that could actually curb the disease. Right. And those drugs have progressed and progressed and progressed. It's a little nuts that there isn't a cure yet. I mean, like, it's... And there is a lot of conspiracy out there. So have you heard of PrEP? Truvada?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Okay, I'm educating. This is good. So there's also a pill that you can take every day if you're negative, if you're not HIV positive. And a lot of gay men, because we're considered a high-risk group, take it every day. And if you take it every day, you can't get HIV. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So somehow, some way, the drug companies figured out a way to get all gay men on AIDS meds without curing it. So now they're making a lot more money. I mean, that's the conspiracy theory point of view on the whole thing. Right, right, right. And I'm not going, I mean, drug companies are keeping me alive, so I'm not going to completely come for them, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But there is, it's just an interesting thought that rather than have finding a cure after several, several decades, just an interesting thought that rather than have finding a cure after several several decades um we have just another way to make more money on the disease itself so we'll file that under i'm just gonna leave that right sponsored by gilead all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride.
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Starting point is 00:24:58 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.
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Starting point is 00:26:21 Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just
Starting point is 00:26:54 come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding
Starting point is 00:27:16 these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So we just booted a bunch of Russians out of the United States.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Did we shut down the Seattle consulate? Yeah. Shutting it down. Shuttered, which is spelled T-T, and I saw a headline that spelled it D-D. We just shuttered. Oh, really? Never mind. I got you. They're running scared. Right. So this is actually something back during the transition from Obama to Trump. We closed the San Francisco consulate.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And like I thought the Cold War was over. People are saying we're in like a hot peace period. But apparently there's like all sorts of weird espionage shit going on. So when they closed the San Francisco consulate uh there was just like black smoke billowing out of the chimney for like days and document yeah and uh foreign policy magazine did this big report where they like talked to intelligent people in america about like just the bizarre activities that are happening around the San Francisco consulate before it was shut down. And like, there was just weird stuff. Like they
Starting point is 00:28:52 followed this guy who worked there. Like they basically, it says, imagine like driving up over Mount Tamalpais to doing a bunch of switchbacking through Redwood Studded Ravine until over the horizon you spot a giant shimmering beachfront and you pull up and there's a guy in a suit standing at the edge of the water
Starting point is 00:29:17 just looking out into the water with a small device in his hand and then he stands there just staring out into the ocean for a few minutes, turns around, walks to his car and leaves. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:29:27 that's like what they saw Russian, like quote diplomats from this, uh, take a long drive out of the city. Yeah. Like they followed him out. They can see Russia from there. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then like wave a page. You're like, all right, we did it. Yeah. The documents, documents, they would follow these binoculars. They would follow these people and they would like go out to a gas station, pull their car up next to the gas pump, not pump any gas, walk off like into a field, do laps around this tree like three times and then go back to their car.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And then like another car of Russian diplomats would do the same thing. This is how Russians exercise. Everyone knows that. It's just Russian cardio. But it's just like so strange. That's what we would call in the intelligence community tradecraft. Right. And they kind of marked all these different places where they were doing this weird shit
Starting point is 00:30:15 on a map. And they said that they think they're either nodes of fiber optics that are passing underground that they're basically like figuring out how to interfere with, or their paths that spy planes are flying over and they're basically transmitting stuff up to the spy planes. But it's just interesting context for all this like Seattle stuff is that the last consulate we closed, it was for shit like this,
Starting point is 00:30:41 like just like really weird sort of uh almost stereotypical tradecraft stuff going on what's weird too because like the reason is because it's proximity to like a u.s nuclear submarine base right and like the boeing manufacturing like plants and stuff so it's like damn like what's that weird shit about like they're like okay we got that we got the subs figured out it's just hard to like handle, to know that all of these agents are clearly operating within our country and to think that we similarly have something going on over there. But to know that we're being led by people whose intentions are unclear on our side, or at least it feels that way. It's like, I just want to know what is happening like i because i feel like we are either super vulnerable which is clear we've been vulnerable to some forms of espionage right um but like what are they trying to do beyond
Starting point is 00:31:34 influence our elections and or get a manchurian candidate in there who may already be in there right well it's all like a technological arms race like it's basically an everything arms race right there's weapons there's technology there's ai and we're all racing against each other and so anytime one of our you know best and brightest comes up with something even if it's in the private sphere they're going to try and steal those secrets stephanie rule she's an msnbc contributor and she said something me, she was like, Trump doesn't even know what AI is.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He thinks it's a steak sauce. And I thought that was super funny. Yeah, she crushes it. She's an awesome burner. She's a sick burner. But yeah, I mean, and that's, it's like there's so many
Starting point is 00:32:19 complicated issues and all we are ever talking about is just like PPs and where-wheres. Right, right right exactly well the thing is too with these like with these expulsions it keep in mind it's the least we could do in response to all of this you know what i mean like we did this to be not left out of a really like broad coalition of other countries who are taking action against russia although the number i think was pretty high it's's the highest, but on paper,
Starting point is 00:32:45 we kicked out spies. We should do that. Cool. I'm tough on Russia. I'm going to kick out their spies. I got their spies out. Meanwhile, I don't see any sanctions on fucking Putin himself or other oligarchs
Starting point is 00:33:02 around him that could really get his ass in a fucking grind. Are they getting next world cup like or yeah the world cup is in russia but it's just happening it's just happening and we're going down and everyone well the u.s is not the u.s is boycotting the u.s yeah foresaw the fuckery in russia and said you know what we're not even gonna qualify those goals yeah in tobago we're not even going to qualify. We're going to miss those goals. Yeah. Like in Trinidad and Tobago. At a protest, we will fail to qualify. And so did Italy, and so did the Netherlands, so they're on to something else. But England, is England going? England did qualify, but there was talk of not going.
Starting point is 00:33:35 But then every English football fan was like, yeah, okay, we're not going to go to the World Cup? No. It could be in hell. But that's kind of the world that we live in now where it's like nothing really matters because if this was the 80s of course like we wouldn't be the uk wouldn't be going because there was a real serious threat coming right from our nuclear foe the the soviet union but now it's like i mean they meddle in elections and they're poisoning people but like we love football yeah and their level of fucking around isn't quite reached the egregious levels
Starting point is 00:34:06 where people are like, okay, we have to do this. It's just like, is it worth trying to do this? They took, they literally annexed part of Europe and then we had the Olympics there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Right. And it's just like, that's where we are right now where it's hard to convince a population that really terrible things are happening. Right. Or, and or, are these really terrible things? Was Crimea really part of Russia that just wanted to be back?
Starting point is 00:34:32 You know, and that's like the world, like there is no real actual fact or answer or anything because everything is disputed by a slew of other information. Well, one fact that is probably undisputable is like, you know, every time there's been sort of expulsions like this, there's expulsions in kind from Russia. They're like tit for tat expulsions. And so they're most likely it's going to happen again. The only time it hasn't happened was when Obama did it in 2016.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And that was probably because Michael Flynn was like, hey, don't worry about this, bro. Don't worry about this, bro. Which is a weird thing to look at because that really is one of the few times, I think, maybe one of the only times where there wasn't-kind expulsions or clapbacks from Russia. Did they kill that? Yeah, they killed that British. No, he's still, him and his czar are still in critical condition.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Okay. And we're like giving them plane tickets to go home. Right. You know, I mean, like that's how we're fighting in kind. And like, you know, I'm not saying we should poison their spies but no it does feel like we're not playing i feel like you know we're not playing with the same game maybe you know sprinkle a little salmonella on their salad bar right oh yeah wow wow country but yeah they're um yeah it's true we're definitely not doing enough to combat like the the election meddling and every
Starting point is 00:35:41 expert even in the department of defense has been saying that they're like, bro, we're not really doing anything to combat this. Yeah. Aside from like, yeah, we'll sanction people that were already being sanctioned. Yeah. We'll expel spies. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Just let daddy Mueller take control. Right. We just want daddy Mueller. So speaking of children's safety, we wanted to open with a new segment that Miles is developing. What's it called, Miles? It's called Kid Decapitated at a Waterpark Watch. What?
Starting point is 00:36:11 You know, so... This happens. This is actually a really terrible story. So getting a UTI at Splash Mountain is actually only the second worst thing that can happen to you at a... Yeah, so this... Sorry to make jokes about this.
Starting point is 00:36:21 This is terrible. This kid, I think two years ago, was riding this water slide called Verrückt at the Schlitterbahn water park in Kansas City. Now, this thing, the Verrückt apparently translates to insane or mad in German because the thing was so fucking intense. And I remember it was like on like some TLC show or like whatever educational reality shows like building impossibleLC show or whatever educational reality show.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It was like building impossible water slides or whatever. And they show when they're first testing it, it's like this thing that does a huge drop, and then it hits a second hill, and then another drop. Right, which water slides usually only go down. They usually don't pop back up. This is meant to give you a little bit of rush, and it's like one of those things where people get in or like three people get in a raft and go down right so in the initial test ones the angle of the hill when you come down off the initial descent right the angle was too sharp that it was launching rafts off the slide right so so in the show they're like oh shit we got to change this angle right and they're like it's a six-week job and then you see the guy being like you guys got two weeks right and they're like because reality show logic right it's like clockman is threat and so you
Starting point is 00:37:25 gotta get them doing it right and then but sadly they didn't properly clearly there were a lot of things being worked out because in august of 2016 this kid rode the ride and the the raft was launched and he was decapitated and like two other women that were in the raft they went airborne and collided with like the sort of like protective net uh framing that keeps the rafts in and the kid was tragically killed now the people who designed the ride have now been charged with like reckless second degree murder yeah aggravated battery and aggravated endangering a child uh and the crazy thing is like there were people getting injured before this kid got on the ride and they were keeping it all hush hush right and trying to be like oh man this happened to this
Starting point is 00:38:09 kid was the first time and after they did their investigation no it wasn't because this shit was a fucking death trap that's final destination bones were being broken yeah i mean this is this is one of those things first of all sch, Schlitterbahn is something that I had heard about from Howard Kramer on Who Charted talking about how great this is in the Austin area. But apparently, they pushed it too far in this case. But I feel like this is one of those design flaws with the very fabric of capitalism where you've got the sort of like carnival barker personality who creates a water park and makes it like nationally famous that's like the best guy to
Starting point is 00:38:52 have in charge of your water park in terms of letting people know about it right but it's also the exact wrong person to have in charge of like designing safe rides for people right and so that's what where regulations come in handy. Like that's the thing that it's the least sexy, least cool thing to like talk about and get excited about regulations. But like we were seeing it over and over again, like regulations getting, you know, killed by this administration and people who are pro deregulation getting put in charge of all sorts of industries. And like you really need regulations in place because capitalism is an awesome thing at
Starting point is 00:39:31 certain things, but it's not necessarily good at like looking out for consumer safety. It's good at looking out for anyone's safety. Yeah. I think we've got to make we've got to make getting cars of strangers sexy again. We've got to make regulation sexy again. I'm on the marketing team for this. I'm ready to make people horny for regulation. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I mean, yeah, because when they talk about this ride, they say it violated nearly all aspects of longstanding industry safety standards and that, in fact, the design and operation of the Verruckt complied with few, if any, of the industry safety standards. That's like some Titanic shit. Right, exactly. So, I mean, yes, again, I don't mean to be flippant about this child's death,
Starting point is 00:40:11 but it's just crazy because it's so fucking horrific. And so preventable. Yeah, right. And it's crazy because it was like a thing on a reality show that they were even like, hey, man, we need six weeks to do it. The guy's like, do it in two. And they're like, uh-oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They say that a lot of the really poor decisions he made were in favor of getting this thing promoted on a reality show. Right. First up, we want to talk about the premiere of Roseanne. Over 18 million people viewed the premiere of the new rebooted Roseanne. And yeah, a lot of people are kind of taking this as a sort of vindication of Trumpism because in the show, Roseanne is a Trump supporter. And so you're seeing-
Starting point is 00:41:01 And real life. Right. And in real life. And the first episode was sort of a conversation between her and Jackie about, you know, the Trumpism versus people who oppose Trump. I think Jackie was portrayed as like a cartoon of liberalism, like she walked in with a pussy hat and an outfit made of kale. Right. Like she walked in with a pussy hat and an outfit made of kale. Right. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:36 So, I mean, it is a perspective that you don't tend to get from mediated pop culture that's coming out of Los Angeles. Sure. I never watched the show growing up because I didn't really see myself in the reality of that show. But I know many people that liked it. But was the show problematic back then? I thought based on what I was reading, they used sort of this working class reality to also talk about sort of other issues within it. Like there was gay marriage at the time when the show was happening, but apparently it was a controversial episode.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Is this new version? Are they just going whole hog on trump where it's like no we're going to normalize trump using roseanne or is it still going to be like we're going to we'll have elements of people who support donald trump and also try and use that and juxtapose that with other people and then explore the the relationship that we have between families or whatever between people having sort of these political ideological differences i've heard a defense of it that tries to compare it to all in the family because on All in the Family, obviously, the Archie Bunker was like an old, like crotchety bigot. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But I think the difference between that and this is that Carol O'Connor himself was not that way. And like he was like, like he himself did not feel that way. But the show like used him as a foil. Now, to be fair, like Rob Reiner's character on that show was kind of a caricature of like a young liberal kid too right it was kind of there was that there um but it doesn't help if the only like mouthpiece for that idea is jackie and she's kind of a punchline and like a thing that may not be what they're trying to achieve but yeah there are a lot of really like there are queer writers for the show people of color like i don't i don't know what they're attempting with it but like right it might be possible like they're actually trying to find a way to like
Starting point is 00:43:07 bridge the gap in the fight between trump supporters and hillary supporters i don't know what they're going for but that seems to be what they're claiming to be going for portray the disagreement rather than taking necessarily a side in the disagreement right right but it seems like from what how our writer jm was describing it it it seems like there are like plenty of things left hanging where a liberal character says something and then that's just the joke but there's no like – And Roseanne gets the last word. Yeah, gets the last word. Trumpism gets the last word. Yeah, I think it's probably more evenly distributed than you would typically see in a show about liberal city dwellers written by liberal city dwellers, you know, written by liberal city dwellers. But, you know, I think
Starting point is 00:43:48 that's probably partially both because Roseanne herself is not just the, you know, namesake and star of the show. She's also, you know, one of the executive producers and one of the loudest voices in the writer's room. And, you know, she herself is a trump supporter um but you know it's also a stated goal of the show to try and accurately reflect what uh people who are living in the middle of america who are in this you know income bracket uh would think like in the conversations that they're having. There's an interview with the co-EP of the show, a guy, Bruce Rasmussen, who was also heavily involved in the previous incarnation of it, who was saying that the writer's room itself,
Starting point is 00:44:38 outside of Roseanne, is still fairly liberal. It's a lot of LA comedy writers. Right. But they are having to dig. And I think probably having Roseanne there keeps them honest about this. They're having to dig to, you know, right from the perspective of somebody who is a Trump supporter, who does think that Trump is going to do something for them. Right. It's like the Black Panther for white working class people. Right. And I think. This is their Wakanda. Right. It's like the Black Panther for white working class people.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Right. And I think- This is their Wakanda. Yeah. And I think there are other shows that do the same thing. Like I think Atlanta is another example. That was something that kept jumping out to me in the first season is how much of that show is about like struggling to, you know, like go out on a date when you don't have
Starting point is 00:45:22 the money to pay for the date. Right, right, yeah. And like, you know- Very grounded in reality. Right, very grounded in economic realities, which is something like from back when I was at Cracked, we had people who grew up fairly poor on our writing staff. And anytime they would write articles about growing up poor and what it's like to be poor, growing up poor and what it's like to be poor, they would get way more traffic than their normal articles would because people, I think, are just so starved for content that reflects the reality
Starting point is 00:45:56 of life as the majority of people in America live it, which is as not somebody who can afford a giant apartment in Manhattan. Right. You know? And like even Lady Bird was kind of like that was one of the draws to that movie. Yeah, very much. It was like people, like that was pre-economic collapse, like that was just people living in the 90s era.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah. What was I going to say? Did you watch the show? I did not watch the show. I have issues with Roseanne herself and some stuff she's had with transphobia on Twitter and historically and it's hard because it's one of the things where she deleted a lot of her old tweets when the show was announced
Starting point is 00:46:33 and I think that may have been the network asking her to do it I'm not sure and all this stuff was happening in the era where tweets weren't as readily cataloged as they are now so you can find a lot of like think pieces about the tweets but there aren't screenshots of the tweets right um and like it was a little bit rough and and so i and i i've kind of steered clear of it because at times he's gotten pretty aggressive with people um and so i'm a little antsy about it now one thing i will say about the show um just from like reading about it um is that
Starting point is 00:47:01 there's been a lot of things like oh how dare you support Roseanne because she's a transphobe. And then people point out that there is a character on the show that is one of Darlene's children. And it's a boy who is like gender nonconforming and dresses in girls' clothing on the show. And I guess Roseanne as a character is very supportive of him.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And people have been going, see, this show's not transphobic because there's this kid that wears dresses, whatever. And I think that like that is a oversimplification of what's happening in the situation. Now, I am not saying this to attack it. I actually think it's great they're doing this character. And I think that it is really good to have a show that is hitting this market like you were saying that also addresses the idea of letting a kid in a middle class culture, especially in middle America, being able to be openly expressive of his gender nonconformity
Starting point is 00:47:46 and be able to address how he feels. And that's great. So I 100% support them doing that. So I don't want to seem like I'm attacking that. But I do think that like, step back from using that as an example of the show not being transphobic, because that does not mean the show is not transphobic. In fact, Roseanne openly refers to trans women at least she did on Twitter in the time when she was really engaging in this as men in dresses. So you could even make the argument that they're making this a boy who wears dresses who is explicitly not transgender
Starting point is 00:48:13 as a way of being like, oh, this is all this really is. And even though it's really two different things. And they're not saying that one should not be showcased and should not be celebrated, but it's just not. It'd be like if I'm on a show and I'm of Jewish descent and someone's like, that show's not racist, you got a Jew on there. Like, let's go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Or the same people are like, I have black friends. Yeah, exactly. But it's not even that. Like, it's literally saying this different group is represented so this group is not being attacked. So like,
Starting point is 00:48:35 I don't think that that character in and of itself absolves Roseanne Barr herself of her history with transphobia. And so, now I've, like the article that you guys linked to,
Starting point is 00:48:46 or someone mentioned Andrea James, who is a trans writer and like performer, like was praising the show. And she was in the shows at the end of the day, it shows really funny. And that's what matters more than anything. And that's what's like an heel things. So there are trans voices who are watching the show and saying that it's
Starting point is 00:48:59 fine. So for me, it's less about what the show is doing and more my reservations about the about the Roseanne herself. And so, yeah, I just, I, yeah i yeah as a kid never appealed to me but like it just seemed like one of those things that everyone knew like it was like a show that i never watched but i knew the characters names right just because like everyone would talk about it but i don't know jack you watched it yeah i watched it a lot growing up and i i didn't even realize but uh you know norm mcdonald ended
Starting point is 00:49:23 up being one of my favorite comedians and he was a writer on the show when i when uh i watched it back then and he's still a consulting producer uh whitney cummings is co-showrunner wanda sykes is writing on it it's like the the writer's room is really impressive and so i'm definitely gonna check it out i just haven't had a chance to yet yeah and i'm not like i will probably check out at some point and like it is like again like going back to my own overrated earlier like i think that there are people who are going to get something out of this and it's going to be really useful for them and so i you're not hating i'm not hating i hope i honestly i think the fact that they have a gender non-conforming kid on the show
Starting point is 00:49:56 is amazing and so i support i'm excited about that um and you know i'm hoping that the people on the show like sarah gilbert and johnman, who have a perspective that is very different than what Roseanne Barr's perspective is, still are able to have enough creative input in the show that it's not just like a propaganda thing. And I'm optimistic for it. Yeah, me too. I just haven't been able to bring myself to watch it for reasons. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We will be right back.
Starting point is 00:50:23 All right. We're going to take a quick break. We will be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:49 The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
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Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
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Starting point is 00:54:12 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. But we wanted to get to some hard news. Yeah. Because there is a video game out that is super hot. Cool. Super cool. Super cool.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It is. An instruction manual on how to be a modern man. Right. That's how I like to put this game. It's called Super Seducer. It's called Super Predator. Move over, Tucker Max. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:45 We've got Richard La Ruina, who is apparently a real person and not a satirical character. He, even though his name actually has the word ruin in it, and he is just awful. He's the self-assessed Europe's top pickup artist. Ah. And he has released a video game where he teaches you how to nag women and just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 treat women like shit enough that they end up in your hotel room. It's good, you know, and you thought that just like society and people around you could just glean that. Right. But it's good to just have it all in one place from someone who i think looks like a bodega unabomber just like a terrifying uh man what a hottie the whole thing the whole game is basically scenarios where there
Starting point is 00:55:38 is a woman or group of women and then it's like a choose your own creep venture where you're then like one of them is like a woman walking down the street a classic harassment set up classic harassment scenario in which it says oh what do you do A approach directly in front B approach slightly in front
Starting point is 00:56:01 and to the side C pretend to be blind D walk next to her. E, wolf whistle, which I guess is... And F is... The option is, yo, what up, girl, walking with her. Right. And it's insane. So you can click on the thing and inevitably, until you do the right thing...
Starting point is 00:56:23 I mean, all of those seem like great options. Honestly, I feel like the answer is pretty clear which is pretend to be blind yes and and then bring back the michael scott character blind guy mcsqueezy uh and just walk up to her like so this this shit is crazy so there's other ones where it's like there there are these like women drinking at a bar and again it's sort of of like- Another classic setup. Women sitting in a booth, sipping wine, sharing their feelings. For so many years, men have not known how to approach those women or to approach women on the street. How will you break the ice?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Leaving them alone. One of them is ask them if they are talking about you. If they say no, then ask why not? My favorite answer is ask them if they know what you like in a girl. The answer being your dick. That's the whole sentence? Yeah, that's like an option. Is the next option pretend to be fly?
Starting point is 00:57:18 No, one of them is like creep up from behind stealthily. And like when you click that one, the dude's fucking head comes up like a villain over a fence post. And he's sniffing them. And then he starts smelling them. And they turn around and go, Ew! We're going to have a game night.
Starting point is 00:57:34 We're going to have a game night. We're going to have to find a way to stream this on Twitch, the Jamie Loftus review. Oh my God. I would snap Richard LaRuina over my leg like a twig i would i would end him oh god well i will have you know jamie that uh he admits that the game was made before
Starting point is 00:57:54 the hashtag me too stuff uh actual quote from him right but he wants the me too stuff the me too stuff but he wants to highlight the strong female characters in the game. You know, the living mannequins who appear and vanish on his bed. The scary dolls with holes in various places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strong female, independent female characters. Strong female protagonists. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, there's even like moments where it's like talking to a woman who like has a boyfriend. And it's like, first ask if she's going to marry him. That way you can take away her independence. It's like the most fucking manipulative. It's just psychopathic. It's crazy. Yeah, it's all just like finding ways to attack the unconscious of people. And this is a guy who clearly knows what other people are thinking
Starting point is 00:58:45 of him because he says he hopes people can appreciate super seducers strong female characters and that it's an easy angle to take saying the game is whatever sexist or whatever else so it's just like so he knows how he looked to the world he would get a haircut first of all and i god i don't know there's and it seems so like goofy and dumb but then sometimes you'll like meet a guy in the wild who it's like oh you would probably like you've read these books right right right there was a guy who approached me a couple weeks ago this was and it partially on me uh because i was they but there seemed to be like a birthday party at the bar I was at. I'm like, I'm just going to take a piece of cake and see if anyone notices I wasn't invited.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And so he came over. He's like, hey, it's my friend's birthday, and that's her cake. And I was like, I know. I was invited. Oh, you doubled down? I doubled down and took a second slice of cake. Oh, you doubled down? I doubled down and took a second slice of cake.
Starting point is 00:59:50 But then it turned out he was just trying to start a conversation with me by yelling at me about someone else's cake and then made a bunch of strange comments about cake. And then I was like, I actually have to get out of here, comma, Arthur, period, with my mountain of stolen cake. Oh, wow. I mean, this guy, he was in some hot water when he was saying that he felt British women are overweight and entitled. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:09 That's why he only fucks with Eastern European women. And they're like, bro, what? Yeah. Classic Neg movie. Neg your entire country. Yeah, Neg the women right off top. Right. What's up, girl?
Starting point is 01:00:19 You're fat and entitled. Boom. Anyway. That's a great way for him to explain why he's like a weird loser virgin. He's like, well, I just don't think anyone in my country is hot. Right. And that's what this woman said. She's like, you're blaming women for your lack of success by calling them entitled,
Starting point is 01:00:36 you fucking idiot. And I've never, yeah, it's like I've never left this country and I think every girl here is super mean. Right. That's why I love Russia. He specifically calls out Russia. He's like, you walk down the street in London, and they're like, whatever. Maybe you see a beautiful woman here and there.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Then you go to Moscow, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. It's crazy. But the game is still on Steam, I believe, but it's no longer on the PlayStation Store because they're like, yeah, this game is kind of fucking gross. I don't understand. I don't know. What's their problem?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Yeah. It seems a little bit like they're censoring his truth. Right. Again, just pretend you're blind. I mean, anytime that comes up as an option, you know that's the option I'm fully going with. Just pretend. Or you could pretend to be blind. Or again, the greatest
Starting point is 01:01:28 pick-up line we've learned is ask them if they know what you like in a girl. The answer being your dick. Yeah, that's gonna work. Because this guy's so busy, you know, getting with various women from Russia, he also left a comment on a
Starting point is 01:01:43 video on YouTube that was criticizing the game that only had 150 views and like started berating the person on youtube uh and then made a dmca complaint to youtube so that the video review of this i'm sorry it's triggering for sorry sorry my bad my bad uh no it's activating our coping skills. I love the positive Miles Gray has been. Trigger, triggering. Yeah. But he was angry
Starting point is 01:02:10 because the game reviewer said, I don't know, maybe just be yourself and don't pay attention to this guy's rules for how to insult women into sleeping with you. And he was like,
Starting point is 01:02:22 come on, man, that's cuck shit. That doesn't work. I mean, I'm sure ever since this came came out this guy cannot stop coming and making money so he comes money yeah he comes little bills now so jokes on us i think this guy like got rich though really young and then was like pissed that money wasn't equating to sex for him so then was like i gotta figure out a way to gas like women right fucking me right in a way i think it's partially like the john ham uh character on 30 rock where it's like he's like a okay looking dude who got rich when he was young and is like
Starting point is 01:03:02 wow now women sleep with me i must have like some amazing mind trick that i'm using on them and it's like right no man people aren't being honest with you or like nobody liked you before because you were kind of a loser and one woman was having a really bad day right exactly just happened to meet her on the worst day of her life but i like that that guy who he put the takedown request to YouTube, he felt bad and came back and then PayPal to do 50 bucks. It was like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Really? Yeah, and he's like, you don't want your fucking money. Speaking from personal experience, cucks love to PayPal random people $50. Uh-oh. But yeah. Oh yeah, we never heard the end of that story.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Oh, the small sauce. Small sauce. Yeah, so I guess that's maybe a good place to end, right? So there was a saga where you were doing a live stream on Facebook and then what were people like giving you a rating? They're like, what would you rate her out of 10 or something?
Starting point is 01:03:54 Someone named Swole Sauce, yeah, started a hot or not thread about me and there were I mean, the conversation, it's like, where's my WikiFeet page? But the conversation, there was a lot of thoughts. There was a lot of good points, a lot of things that really made me want to run into traffic. So I messaged the guy who started the thread and asked him for $50.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Accidentally Venmo'd him $40. Negotiations took place. That's how you start the negotiations. Always Venmo someone $40. Here's $40. Now this is what the negotiations. Always Venmo someone $40. Here's $40. Now this is what I want. I want fat and $50. So all said and done, he ended up Venmoing me $20
Starting point is 01:04:33 and said he'd come to my show in New York in a few weeks. That's right. Didn't show. He didn't show? Didn't show. Wow. Wow, Swole Sauce. Too busy getting swollen cleans, but like Swole Sauce.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Or if he was there, he was too afraid to talk to me. Oh, no, that ain't Swell. But, and there was also, there was no one Swell at that show. So if he was. I would have known. I'm being highly critical of my own audience saying, they're a bunch of weak losers. If there was someone Swell there,
Starting point is 01:05:00 they would have stood out like a sore thumb. All right, linguine legs. He didn't show. Linguine legs. Linguine legs. All right, linguine legs. He didn't show. Linguine legs. Linguine legs. All right, Jamie. Log flume. As always.
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