The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 174 (Best of 5/3/21-5/7/21)

Episode Date: May 9, 2021

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist and we are thrilled fortunate uh in awe to be joined by the brilliant the talented the hilarious greg edward hey hey hey fellas thanks for having me man it's good to be back it's great to have you thank you for stopping by man oh yeah miles hold good to see you. Oh, yeah. Miles, hold up. First and foremost, let me see that hair, man. Let me see that head. Come on. Take that top off. Oh, come on, man. You got a

nice, you got a nice dome piece. I got a good dome, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, great shaped head. You got that Buddha dome. Oh, yeah. I mean, like I said, if I ever, you know, need to flee the law, I will just put an orange robe on and go to Southeast Asia. Sorry. Bye, motherfucker. this is a wrap you

tell it you're good to go give me my beads and shit i'm good you should you know what you could be a dope dj just put the robe on yeah i thought about that as like a as a bit like it's more like white on white air forces and stuff yo he's got a he's on a wave you can make three million dollars in like two months yeah watch okay look easy tiktok experiment i'm the funky monk uh oh there you go he smokes blunts and gives wisdom like sage like advice nah you can't talk you just gotta do it most def style to write everything down oh shit right that's the way to do it he He doesn't talk. He just writes things down, though. Well, he used to do it. He did that for like a year.

He just wrote everything down. Yeah. I guess that cocaine was really good that year. It's like I can't open my mouth. It starts moving weird. I'm going to just clench my teeth in white. Brent, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

I mean, let's see. Let me see. I mean, because sometimes it's just like addresses, and that's kind of boring, you know, just like looking up addresses. Okay, well, here's something that I looked up. Like, this is probably one of the most recent non, kind of just, I don't know, non addresses, I guess, is Dave Cause 90210. Okay. So I had seen this already in the past, but I was thinking about it recently. And you guys probably don't know who Dave Cause is, or do you?

No. Dave Coz is a smooth jazz saxophonist. Okay. And his hit track is called You Make Me Smile or something like that. Something about smile. I think it's You Make Me Smile. And there's an episode of Beverly Hills 90210

where they, on Kelly's 21st birthday, I didn't watch the show, but somebody brought this to my attention. And it's so funny they go to this dave cause concert for her birthday and these kids are 20 you know they're supposed to be 21 right whatever and they're going to the smooth jazz concert now look when i was in high

school i liked smooth jazz myself but i was an anomaly you know they're all into it including brian austin green's character and you know who was i think probably into hip-hop at the time but they're all at this concert and dave causes it's first of all he's wearing these huge puffed out pants they look like hammer pants and he's wearing this vest he looks kind of like a genie or almost uh and a smooth jazz genie and he's playing the saxophone and kind of doing these funny kind of dance moves as he's playing the saxophone and it's just funny to see all these young people at this show as if they would be into this and you know and right they're all in their early 20s and they're all kind of you know they're nodding their head do it and they're into it and it just i'm just wondering who which

which producer was a smooth jazz fan and right this was be an accurate thing for kids to go to is to go this is gratuitous i'm just watching this scene on mute and like it's like one of those things where like in a movie where they somehow just just brute force inserted like a music performance like this is fucking up the whole flow of the film right now but apparently y'all signed some fucked up contract, which made you have someone had to sing a ballad right now. But it's like a two minute clip. And they're just showing like the people on all the instruments jamming, slapping on bass. And then like, yeah, the young kids are like, man, this is that sound.

Right. It's so funny because they would never be at that show. I mean, you know, know i mean i don't know i mean look like i said i i'm in a smooth yeah i was always in a smooth jazz but that's that's you know these kids are not they weren't like me you know brian austin green i will give him credit he does look a little bit checked out no no look at him he gets back into it though he seems checked out at first and then he's then he starts then he's right back.

I think he got inspired or something for a second, and his mind drifted, but then he gets back, and he's just like, oh, yeah. The only one he does maybe seem not as into it is Dylan. He's maybe not into it, and then Jason Priestley's kind of looking at Kelly, looking at her, thinking, sir, do you like this? She's licking her lips looking at the stage.

I mean, it's fucking hot so one of the producers must have been friends with dave cause or something yeah right i mean that's such a such a thing that happens in shows about teenagers that are clearly written by you know people in their 40s that their taste in culture is always very strange i mean imagine though an alternate reality where smooth jazz was the dominant most popular kind of music you know in right you know what i mean for for young people that'd be interesting imagine if that was only a young person's thing in fact you know a lot less fights in high school you know yeah right we're like oh you bumping that new pat metheny album maybe different kind of fights yeah you know yeah yeah much more expressive i do wonder if dylan was because dylan was you know in his late 30s playing

a you know 19 year old what like was he pretending was he the only one who was checked out because he was like aware of that and like yeah didn't want people to like couldn't couldn't be too into it or else it would like reveal his 45 year old heart he's kind of trying to be like a narc but right i mean he's not he is a narc and he's trying to not reveal that he's a narc. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Within the world of, uh, of the show or whatever. So he's,

he's over there kind of just maybe like really restraining himself from like really grooving to it, you know? Right. And, but he's like, if I get into this too much, I'm going to seem too young.

Yeah. Cause. Still out here doing it. So, yeah, no, I thought, so that was something, I i mean i'd seen that already

but i was thinking about it recently and i thought what's up with that i want to watch that clip again i want to see or i want to know also what has and does anybody talk about this too does anyone i was wondering if anybody was noticed that and thought that was weird you know no right because like you look at that like on the YouTube video of it, there's two comments. One is someone just being like talking about the storyline from 90210. And then another person says, wow, Dave plays alto saxophone, but out comes a nice soprano saxophone. Ha ha ha. I think they're wrong about that, though, because I was looking.

I think I saw that comment, too, about this. It looks like an alto. It looks like an alto. Yeah. I was looking at that at that too i said that that's not a soprano it's much bigger but hey you know what whatever and i don't i have a feeling that when you have a band playing as themselves the musician will probably bring his own instrument because it's like a very fancy silver saxophone right oh dave that's what kenny g plays right he plays soprano saxophone yeah yeah i'm trying to think of like other examples where the age of the producers was like kind of sublimated onto the young characters and i was and in congress with like what yeah completely like the fact that the like five to nine year olds in full house were really into the beach boys uh and like

it was clearly just like a john stamos and the producers like uh pipe dream yeah yeah what are some other examples of that i wonder what the yeah that's kind of a funny thing to that's a funny subject you know like yeah people being into stuff that they shouldn't be into yeah you know i feel like early seasons of buffy the vampire slayer some of the way that students talk they talk like they're from the 70s suddenly and i know it's like slightly campy but this sounds like some old white dude just wrote all this dialogue for this young teen girl but it seems like the slang was probably the like the thing that i most like tune into i'm like yo nobody talks like that that age right but i don't know also you know there was a show i never watched this show it was kind of after my time but my

brother my little brothers watched a show on nickelodeon called hey arnold and it was an you know show for kids i guess but there was jazz in that. I think smooth jazz, in fact. I think there was smooth jazz in that, too, I think. People are going to, like in the way that a Marlon Brando character, not the one from The Godfather, is like a lesser known mob movie, but he invented the way that mobsters dressed. Like there's going to be a future world where kids all listen to that

because they think that that's what kids used to listen to, even though it was completely made up for this by like 40 something TV producers in the early 90s. What is something you think is overrated, Caitlin? Well, speaking of tourism and going to places with beaches, I think going to the beach is overrated yeah there i said it wait why damn because of what burn i just i don't know it's it's hot it's sandy you get sand everywhere there's like nothing fun to. The water's always cold. Even if it's not cold, the salt water is irritating to my skin. You sound like someone who's going down a list of things to pivot to.

When you're like, come on, let's go to the beach. You're like, ah, it's sandy. It's like, no, this part is really nice. Yeah, but the water's cold. No, the water's actually really great. Yeah, but then once you're in, it's like the salt. You don't want to go. It's fine. You don't want to go it's fine you don't want to go sharks maybe sharks there's seaweed you might get bit by a crab there's this you know those ferocious teeth i just yeah i've never had like a great time at the beach i've had i hate to hear that i mean

maybe i don't know maybe i'm just going with the wrong people maybe we're bringing the wrong things i don't know i just don't enjoy myself at the beach yeah well that's you know i think i definitely don't go to the beach as much like locally like if i'm going other parts of california like i'll hit the beach but i've gotten so used to the la beaches i'm like i don't even i don't i'm like spoiled from being around this part of the pacific too long it's a terrible thing to say but that's just how i feel but it's funny because her majesty whenever we go somewhere even up the coast remotely i'm like yeah let's go to the beach it's like what the fuck you don't i'm like i don't like the beaches near me i like the concept

though especially when it's warm. Right. Gwyneth Paltrow just had a quote that I read somewhere. About a beach? Yeah, it was like very, I am always happiest by the sea. Just the exact opposite, which I think is. That's a good indicator, I guess. I'm always happiest by happiest by in or on the sea and then she used that to uh tease her oh yeah her cruise right her cruise line baby wait a minute yeah there's a goop

cruise stop it it's called like goop at sea or some shit yeah yo this is kind of a biz oh my god you and jamie gotta go on this and just tell us what the fuck. It's like a fucked up Titanic. Goop at sea. Oh, I don't. Okay, I'll go on it. Actually, no, that sounds like that sounds like you're actually putting her like you're actually putting yourself in harm's way. Like on paper, goop at sea doesn't end well for fucking anyone involved. Yeah, I've always been happiest by on or in the sea. We talked about that one like fucking thing she tried to have

in the UK and everyone was like, yo, she's scamming us! When they had a goop conference and shit. So, yeah. Seaguineth? Maybe that's a pass. What about under the sea? I've always been happiest

at the bottom of the sea with the other bottom feeders anyways i i am closer to your uh take on on the sea than gwyneth's uh i think you're i think you're right i thought you're mr ocean city asian city i go i go to ocean City for the boards, man. For pizza. I'll go for the beach. The fucking spuckness for the herbs. I mean, I actually like an Atlantic Ocean beach better than a Pacific Ocean beach. Because the ocean's warm and dirty like me. I don't know.

I just feel more at home there. And living in LA, every time I go to the beach, I feel like I should be wearing a sweater and a knit cap. When are y'all going to the beach? You know it does get warm. You guys are always describing going to the beach in November or some shit. No. It has to burn off.

We get the June gloom and shit, but you got to pick your spots. I've been in August and the water is still freezing. Yeah. The Pacific Ocean is underrated, just fucking so much colder than the Atlantic. I didn't realize that until I got out here and started not going to the beach at all. Started my amateur oceanography. What is something you think is underrated? I think that is underrated.

I'm just going to say what I wrote down, but as I'm about to say it and looking at it on my computer screen, this is probably very correctly rated. But I think that I very much liked is a couple weeks ago i was at costco and i bought from costco for approximately 100 an entire leg of uh jamon de serrano comes with a stand comes with a knife and in a crate in a uh yeah yeah it's got a crate with a handle yep and was sort of loosely uh running kind of like a uh we'll call it quasi to illegal uh tapas bar for some vaccinated folks oh really oh andrew you didn't even bite me you should come by honestly i'm more mad about that

i'm like i'm coughing everyone cut me off some of that jamon real quick uh but yeah i got i got pretty good at slicing the slice of the jamon you know a lot of olives a lot of just uh pan con tomate you know spanish olives with the anchovies inside i uh yes i will not look baby invite me over we could complete the whole party baby i come with the spanish goods well no i i i got that uh at a that um black owned cheese shop in silver lake and i was definitely like upsold on them because i think they were unconscionably expensive per oh really like yeah it was a very expensive jar of olives i gotta look i gotta plug for those olives too yeah yeah yeah if you got a guy that's gonna help you i got a guy it's a it's actually a spaniard friend of mine but but that's how i found out about that costco deal because my

mom had one like years ago at her house i said what the fuck are you doing fool like the doctor said you have high blood you can't be eating a whole leg of salt meat bring that over here yeah and i was like man give me let me cut a little slice off of there but yeah i but then i realized they have this deal there that is just ridiculous it almost seems like a challenge of like can you eat this entire pig's leg yeah yeah i just googled Jamon de Serrano and the best price you're getting anywhere on the internet is $300 yeah that's wild

I don't know what kind of scale or kickback Costco has going with Spain it has all these official stamps stickers on it. I don't understand

how it works, but it appears to be a stamped and bonded so I don't know what the quality variation is in that to get that price down to what it is. It comes with a knife. Yeah, right.

It's not like untaxed cigarettes that the mob sells right it is for real i don't know what it i don't know yeah as far as i have been paid yeah i hope was this just like a temporary thing where they're like we just the this shipment was like i don't think it's a year round is it i feel like it's a certain time of year that it has this was around Easter so I assume oh right that's when it's jamon time jamon time

jamon time jamon time yeah well look I love a good jamon serrano so I don't know if this is is that underrated or anyway it's fucking the best i thought you were gonna say i was at costco and i was like when you ate that whole rotisserie

chicken that you were talking about on the internet no i just i just ate the legs off that rotisserie chicken yeah that's the other thing i've been doing is i've been trying to help out with this uh mutual aid group that does stuff in skid row and one thing that uh one thing that i was doing that week was picking up water for for skid row but because i was at costco i was like so i got a pallet of nine flats of water and one rotisserie chicken and nothing else i truly i'm curious what the employees at costco think I'm up to. Right. I mean, jamon and the rotisserie chicken will make you thirsty.

What's your secret? A lot of water, Iberian ham, and fucking rotisserie chicken. But that Costco chicken, that is not underrated because people love that shit. People know. It's so good. Anybody work at Costco,

they can let us in on like, is there a TikTok video yet where someone shows you how they make that shit? know it's so good anybody work at costco they can let us in on like is there is there a tiktok video yet where someone shows you how they make that shit i don't they they have a lot of stickers on it about how it is not full of hormones for something that is clearly has to be full of hormones like it's actually less unnerving to imagine it's full of hormones than imagining. Than it not. Yeah. Cause it's too big. It's fucked up. Chicken should not be that size. Yeah.

So I don't know, but it, Oh God, it was so good. Yeah. And just like, you know, doing that thing where you're like,

I'll just, you know, I'm just gonna, it smells so good in the car. I'm just gonna pick a little bit off. And then like two minutes later, I'm like driving with my wrists. Cause my hands are so greasy. Like a little kid in another car it's like mom that man's eating a

football yeah it's like no it's just a middle torso i really i really went buck wild in a costco chicken it is the best yeah they're so good the salt you know that's the answer it's just it's seasoned probably like it's just so seasoned there's yeah i have a dull bite you're probably have your it'll preserve your mouth though yeah oh so good anyway they're so good at deals my salt from costco chicken there was just a story that was almost definitely seeded by costco but someone who's like high up in the organization threatened to kill someone else if they raised the prices on the hot dog. Yeah. I think that was the CEO. If you raise the hot dog prices, I'll kill you.

Figure it out. Steve Jobs? Yeah, exactly. Make it work. Make it work, but for that hot dog. But for the hot dog. Keep the price and make it work. I'll find somebody that can make it work

yeah anyway that's me alright so shout out to Costco BetterHelp and Dyson Vacuum and this mean dogs yeah Chihuahuas are they chilling together? oh yeah

you can see them I'll make sure the photo I send for this episode includes a chihuahua. Oh, good, good, good. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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Absolutely. Because we're worried about them. We're worried about them, guys. Yeah. The profits. So overall, the issue that we're trying to address is that richer countries have received 87% of COVID vaccines, while low-income countries have gotten just 0.2% as of earlier this week. Half have gone to the richest 16% of the world's population, which means that nations in the global south

may not reach widespread vaccination until 2023. Well, what's the problem? What's the problem? You can't afford the vaccines? They're for sale. Buy some. Yeah, absolutely. The problem is supply, Miles, to answer your question. Like we could ramp up production of effective vaccines around the world if the companies who developed those vaccines would allow their tech to be shared.

And that's something they're not willing to do because they're like, we invested this money. It would be a bad investment in this one specific case if we let the patent be shared for the global pandemic. Yeah, because it would set a precedent for future like once in a century global pandemics. Yeah, that's fine. We want to set that precedent. You fucking monsters. But yeah, so it's just it's pretty open and shut like they have a bunch of objections uh on the capitalist side and like when uh anytime you read an article about this from like reuters where they're interviewing investment bankers on

this or they have all sorts of objections like, well, it's actually not the fact that the vaccine hasn't been shared or that the patents haven't been lifted. It's actually like these countries don't have enough vaccine factories or like they're not up to the task. Which is a lie for India. India is one of the primary manufacturers of the vaccine. It's just that they're shipping them out to other countries. But this is always, I mean, there are so many people,

anytime you're advocating to do something unprofitable, there are millions of people who have been educated, you know, beyond any point of necessity to- Just cat-brained. Yeah, just to come up with excuses of why not to do stuff. Where they don't even know what they're saying. Yeah, they don't know what they're saying.

They probably believe what they're saying. And Bill Gates, for instance, talk about somebody who can talk themselves into anything, has been a key driver of the claim that this wouldn't help, that lifting the patents wouldn't help. It's just total bullshit. It's wild because, I mean, this is the thing that,

this is what gives me, this is the one great thing that, I mean, not the one great thing, but this is a very interesting development in this country, that the president of the United States would go against the market would go against big pharma and their wills to say no fuck you're like no we need let everybody make this fucking vaccine so we can get the world right like what what's the fucking deal here took a long time for them to begin to become supportive of this idea of waiving or how of creating the patent waivers but i think it's it's pretty significant considering like that a united states president

is going to do that i think that should be sort of underscore because also it's funny when you saw the when the news broke all the moderna and pfizer stock took a shit on wall street yeah like fell off a fucking cliff which shows you how this whole fucking like these motherfuckers are saying oh what they're about to be generous yeah but then it stabilized because sure all those millions of uh overeducated people had you know the talking points to be like no this isn't going to change anything nobody's going to be able to do this like they they just kept on with that that same argument that this doesn't change anything that you know lifting the patents it it's wild for me to see how the mainstream media has like

kind of played into this there's been a ton of reporting about how foreign hackers are targeting vaccine data. Who the fuck cares? Let everyone have the formula for a life-saving vaccine, for fuck's sake. But that's headlines from Bloomberg. Cyber attackers leaked COVID-19 vaccine data after EU hack. North Korea accused of hacking Pfizer for COVID-19 vaccine data. It's like, we should just give it to everybody. What the fuck is wrong with you?

And JMR writer pointed out that like back in the day, cause that was my first question. I was like, well, how did in the 1940s, like when the polio vaccine was created or whenever the fuck that was, how were they able to ramp that up so quickly and get that, you know, just distributed globally? And the vaccine nationalism wasn't around back then. You know, nationalism was kind of a big deal back in the early 20th century,

but vaccine nationalism, not so much. Somebody asked Jonas Salk, like, what, who owns the patent on this vaccine Jonas Salk said the people there is no patent could you patent the sun so yeah okay you can patent the sun and I'm trying to right now asshole

Elon Musk is planning to do that sketch on SNL it's normalized patenting the sun it's really just depressing that people are so short-sighted the benefit of eradicating this virus far outweighs the profit that you could make from selling it yeah you can if you can turn the world back on and get everybody back to just consuming then you're going to make billions of dollars anyway and all of these pharma companies are going to be able to create their own booster shots and they're going to be vaccinating people till the end of time it's not like there's money to be lost it It's just less, slightly less money than you're already going to make. And I want to make this point very clear that other than I believe Pfizer, all of these companies took government subsidies in order to produce these vaccines in order to develop them and then ramp them up for production through Operation Warp Speed.

Moderna is based on a combined modified RNA study by the National Institute of Health to the point that their name is Modified RNA. Mata RNA. Moderna is what they named themselves after. From this one discovery made by publicly funded research they were like oh shit that's a good idea we're gonna jump on that we're gonna make billions of dollars off of it and then they're gonna tell us to go fuck ourselves when it's time for them to help the world uh yeah that that's a one of the most hugely underrated stories in America is how much the internet was invented by taxpayer funded programs and shit like that. Well, because I mean, even though Pfizer didn't take United States government money, BioNTech took German government funding, like right.

And almost in like close like half a billion dollars. Yeah. like right and almost in like close like half a billion dollars yeah so regardless like all of these are made through public funding and so regardless like because even when you look at the the projections of the money that these companies stand to make they've already made more than they did last year in this first quarter off vaccines yeah Yeah, but they spent that money already, Miles. There's a whole fucking armada of yachts that has paid to see. No, for real, exactly. But that's, I think, what's so poisonous about this, and I think it's so odd of more people, I don't know,

especially the media can't just report on the absurdity of how this system is working, where even like you're saying, Dave, you need consumers to keep your capitalist machine going because if people are too sick they can't buy your stupid products so it behooves you to have healthy consumers just even in the cynical logic of capitalism or consumer capitalism have healthy consumers with expendable incomes or enough money to give away to back to you but you're still like well hold on what's gonna make more money if everyone fuck if i fuck over the recovery to make a little more

money on this side it's just yeah imagine if we had to go back into lockdown in a year yeah is that gonna be good for the economy no that's gonna be terrible for everyone so the sooner we get this over with truly truly, or at least manageable, because we'll probably never be over with it. It's always going to be a thing because there are enough people refusing to get vaccinated that the virus will circulate through the population till we're all dead. At least get it under control so people can go back to living their lives and going on stupid vacations and buying toys at disneyland and all that junk yeah let's just do that but there is such a an obsession in this country with intellectual property intellectual property matters more than human beings now yeah like if you own intellectual property you own the ability to use it and exploit it forever and that's why you know nothing no movie character

or book ever goes into public domain anymore like when great gatsby went into public domain i was shocked but yeah right mickey mouse will never go into public domain ever right well oh yeah i don't know not if you listen to the lobbyists at the fucking mpaa like they have they have people pushing they have have people pushing against this right now because they're like, well, this could be too broad and this could have implications in Hollywood. What the fuck are you

talking about? That's what people in Hollywood always say. How will this affect us? How will this affect Hollywood? Don't worry, you fucking idiot. If you want to see the power of intellectual property law in this country, just look at how many Pinocchio movies there are every year and how many Robin Hood movies there are currently in production. Like the two open source characters that are like, we're going to want to green light about 45 of those for this calendar year. Hollywood's so dumb.

They're like, all right. So I guess if, wait, that Moderna, that's just public domain. All right. Can we turn that into a film? Is there any way to exploit that? OK, we'll talk about it. All right. Let's talk about herd immunity, because speaking of it's bad, we talked to a few weeks back about how we were like, you know, it was at peak. Everyone's getting their vaccines. We have enough vaccines. They're getting into people's arms. Uh,

and now things have slowed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and like that, I, the concept of herd immunity was like the light at the end of the tunnel in the beginning of the lockdown is like, obviously like we're going to eliminate this,

this, this virus through herd immunity. And once we have the vaccines, this is how we will go back to normal but things have just changed so rapidly that it doesn't even like so in the beginning the threshold for herd immunity was estimated to be 60 to 70 percent that was even like fauci saying that and like you know what yeah that seems doable once we get all the vaccines out there and things like that but as the vaccines are being like there and things like that. But as the vaccines are being developed and things like that,

the estimations began to change because the first estimations were based on the first sort of original form of the virus and what we knew about it and what those transmission rates look like. But now that B.1.1.7 is the predominant variant in the United States, and it's more transmissible, that's now moved our herd immunity threshold

to be at least 80%. So 80% of the country needs to be vaccinated for us to have any semblance of herd immunity. And if you look at the latest numbers, you're looking at about a third of Americans that are anti-vax right now

when it comes to the COVID vaccine So how do you get to 80 If you got at least 30% Saying fuck no They think some of that will change over time But It's because of that and all of the Misinformation we're looking at a very

Difficult way of trying to tackle this Which now just seems like Inoculating the most at risk. So we're not like flooding the hospitals with those people. But it's definitely not going to be herd immunity. You're saying that they're expecting the third of America being anti-vaxxers to change or they're expecting that 80% needing to be vaccinated? That third isn't necessarily nailed on.

Like it could shrink a bit as more people realize like, okay, like fuck it, I'll get it. But it's hard because there's also another poll that came out that a lot of the attitudes of people who don't want to be vaccinated is because a, they don't, a,

they don't take the virus seriously, but also B they are like, well, all the other herbs are getting vaccinated. So I'm good. I'll just coast off of them getting vaccinated. But assholes, guess what? If we're not at the herd immunity, there's no people to draft off of in your pursuit of not getting vaccinated because that's not going to be the way we're going to be safe.

So it's actually at this point, people need to be vaccinated. Even that argument, because a lot of anti-vaxxers, when it even comes to child vaccines are like, well, through the herd immunity, I know my child isn't going to get these illnesses because of herd immunity. That logic doesn't apply if we can't achieve any kind of herd immunity here anyway. So it's a bit of a, a bit of a weird fucking feedback loop that we're in um while you know we're we got you know we're clearly seeing the vaccination numbers starting to like fall off a cliff a bit well and then beyond that it's like by hoarding the vaccines

in america which now i would guess now some of those are just going uh vaccines and vaccine patents it's like yeah i guess the other thing that's gonna definitely guarantee this is uh even if you're a complete sociopath who doesn't care about other people you can still think of india as just a vaccine population that or sorry a covid like variant generator yeah like this year number of people yeah like the mutations are inevitable it's just it's just numbers yeah so i guess we just live with this forever or die with it forever they're all just saying you know the what we can hope for according to these experts is like if we can get the vaccinations up that coronavirus is just going to become something that's seasonal that affects mostly the young and healthy but like

that's about it otherwise it's either going to be you die off because unfortunately you were vaccinated or whatever whatever reason right i don't know so it's it's not a ultimately though all the experts are saying we still have to get vaccinated. Just because we can't reach herd immunity doesn't mean that vaccinations are moot at this point. You absolutely need to ensure your own health through vaccination and don't think that

these other ways that you can get around it are actually valid because if you don't have enough people vaccinated, it's... And being one less vector. That's the real thing like are there might be fine marketing campaigns because i know i they're like conspicuously marketing campaigns aimed at like black people and you know elderly people are there republicans we talked about the gop doctors right but that is that really all we're dealing with is that one like shitty viral video that i

for them yeah seems like it i mean there have been a lot of i've been reading a lot of there have been pastors um who like in the south like bible bell area who are trying to get their congregants to get vaccinated there are people trying to but i don't know i think only yeah the thing that they talk about in this times piece though, is that at the very least people need to be, it seems like the way people, their attitudes change. If they're around others who aren't talking anti-vax bullshit, have gotten the vaccine or like, yeah, what's wrong? Like, it's fine.

It's normal. It's normal. It's normal. Versus if you're in a, an environment where it's a hot take to bring up the vaccine or whatever it like the the chance of you getting it like just exponentially go down so that's the one hope is to like talk to your friends about yeah it's the it's the peer group yeah right that like yeah and yeah i was um i mean this isn't like white conservatives, but like, like when I got my vaccines and I volunteered at a vaccine distribution, I knew this, but I kind of hadn't really processed that. Like so many in Southern California, but kind of a certain generation. So many nurses are Filipino and but they also are like very Catholic and very conservative.

So it was truly just like I wasn't i was trying to get a gauge from some filipino friends like are your super conservative parents getting this shit and it was like definitely some people's parents weren't and i was like right that's an odd odd juxtaposition of populations to me yeah and i think that's what also makes just this the herd immunity so difficult because of just the geography of the united states and just how different neighborhood to neighborhood can be because when things like sanitation and income can determine what levels of hurt like who needs to be or like what levels need to be vaccinated that shit can change within like a mile so it's not it's even harder to think

like it's this one blanket sort of prescription although really the prescription is just to get your ass vaccinated yeah yeah i mean the pope told catholics to get the vaccination that should that that one should be easy and the pope also sometimes tells them that the death penalty is wrong and that hasn't changed american catholics very much yeah so yeah he's probably not talking to god on that one yeah yeah which is so funny though because like when you're around like catholics really fuck with the pope like if you joke about that shit they're not having it no so but i'm like but well hold on man you can have that energy because i made a pope joke but then you're like selectively being like i don't i don't agree with

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clearly a lot of lens distortion but it's nice to see because i remember looking at i'm like hold on so they got custom built tiny chairs because i'm like based on how joe is stacking up he can't fit in that chair i think these is this a tiny room they had made but you're like it's a wide angle yeah it's yeah so I did like a bunch of research on not a bunch like 20 minutes of research on just how how this happens

and finding like pictures that were taken with a wide angle versus a you know regular angle and like the person looks completely different like they look like a different person oh right right yeah sort of distorting yeah your features and shit yeah like if if you're up close to something with a wide angle like you'll look like a completely

different person than you normally look like it's yeah uh pretty wild they were so little though i mean just no it yeah it makes me mad that they aren't that little. I know. Like, I like to think like you just, you just shrink into a little fun person. Right. When you're out of office.

You do shrink a little bit. Yeah. You definitely shrink for sure. But like it, this looked like, you know, Tolkien type shit. Yeah.

I kind of want to see the Carters with, uh, Jay-Z, the other Carters with Jay-Z, the other Carters, Jay-Z and Beyonce and the kids. I want to see the Carters and the Carters. All the Carters. I want to see all them with different families. Family matter. Switch it up so Jay and Beyonce are the tiny

ones and June and Jimmy are just towering over them. Hey, look. Jimmy Carter. I love Jimmy Carter though, man man dude sold his peanut farm to become president yeah yeah look at him and he put a solar panels on the fucking white house he did and he's had yeah and then reagan took him right down oh yeah well you know you know good old ron ron was like yeah it's gonna mess up my satellite for my tv show it's like how am i gonna get the latest track or crack statistics the shit on my roof crack statistics get the

crack ticker in the oval office jesus christ oh ron it's wild that like they get credit as being like more down to earth than jimmy carter because than Jimmy Carter because Jimmy Carter let people smoke weed on the roof of the White House. But Nancy Reagan was consulting a psychic, basically, an astrologer for her policy. What was her thing? She chewed her food 100 times before she'd swallow it or something? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's time to eat. Well, her mom would chew it a hundred times

before dropping it into her mouth. Oh, because she's a little bird. Have y'all seen the picture of Nancy Reagan with Mr. T? I think Nancy Reagan's sitting on Mr. T's lap. Yeah. One of the greats. Captures a moment in time. So funny.

Any celebrity who came to that White House, every photo looks surreal. Yeah. Even like that Patrick Ewing one. Yeah. You know, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, Patrick Ewing and John Thompson. Why am I here? The 80s were a wild, bad, but very fun to look at era.

Let's talk about MDMA. Mm-hmm. Nice. So we've talked in the past about how therapists who treat PTSD are very encouraged by early trials of MDMA when paired with actual therapy. So they finally got this major groundbreaking study. Double blind had

a significant number of people, and they found that two months after treatment, 67% of participants in the MDMA group no longer qualified for a diagnosis of PTSD compared with 32% in the placebo group. So the placebo group got placebos, but then they also did the therapy. So this guy, Gold Dolan, who's a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins, who has no involvement, is just like, from an outside perspective, this is about as exciting as clinical trials get. There's nothing like this in clinical trial results for neuropsychiatric disease so uh yeah it's just super encouraging i also i feel like this is something that should be a movement over the course of like this entire next like generation of humans that like there there's a reason people were risking their lives and uh you know their freedom

to self-medicate with these drugs it's like they there's a there's something useful and if you use them in a very controlled environment like it's it's going to be powerful like if you just take seriously the experience of drug users who say actually like psychedelics gave me a really positive shift in like my mental spiritual life like that like if you think about like if any of the other you know if like paxil or like one of the prozac was taken off the market tomorrow, there wouldn't be like a booming Paxil or Prozac market where like people are smuggling those drugs because they're just not like, I think that combining the market instincts of just like people and like the black market with what we're able to find through like clinical trials, I feel like could be could be a big deal.

Could be really useful to science. I think that the thing that makes it really psychedelics advantageous and sort of therapeutic context is that like, you know, like when you're. You're partying on them what you feel is this like openness you know that's why people enjoy that because it it allows you to sort of experience your yourself in a way that is completely uninhibited like you might normally be if you're not taking psychedelics but on a very small level it's that openness that helps along with the therapy to really examine shit to get through it because we have so many walls up and trauma causes all these fucked up ways we

try and protect ourselves that it's more like let's melt those walls down so we can fucking get like really to some healing um and i yeah it's true i think the next few years are really pivotal because it's almost like we need to start also we, we need to have more of a I mean, there's clearly a movement to move away from just like drugs that are just going to mask things and actually trying to figure out how we can improve things for someone rather than to just make things bearable. And I think this is a really important step. And for years, a lot of people have been pointing to this year. They felt like 2021 could be the year where we're gonna finally start getting some like legal mdma to start using in these therapeutic settings yeah and i mean all you read and hear are just like really interesting stories of how much it's helped people and you know who would have thought

that it would work better than the ones that are just meant to sort of numb you yeah it's deep yeah they uh this one person's experience i always find like descriptions of psychedelic experiences kind of mind-blowing because they reveal the power of the mind like this person describes their experience in the therapeutic setting and it's basically like this drug gives him access to a part of his mind that just creates this like beautiful, surrealist work of art that his brain was just producing in the background in order to allow him to heal himself. this guy ostrom who was in iraq uh his days were punctuated by panic attacks he had nightmares like really vivid nightmares about like being stuck in a town like cut off from his troop and like being followed around by insurgents the bullets like instead of firing out of his gun with like dribble out of his gun um and so he like dropped out of college, pushed friends and family away, gotten into an unhealthy, uh, relationship, a couch with eye shades and in a lucid dreamlike state, Mr. Ostrom encountered a spinning, oily black ball like an onion. The ball had many layers,

each one a memory. At the center, Mr. Ostrom relived the moment in Iraq. He said that, I became the person I needed to be to survive that combat deployment. Over the next two sessions, became the person I needed to be to survive that combat deployment. Over the next two sessions, Mr. Ostrom engaged with, quote, the bully as he calls his PTSD alter ego and asked permission for Scott to return. That was who he was before the war. Now he works steadily as an HVAC specialist, owns a home, which he shares with his girlfriend, has a service dog. owns a home which he shares with his girlfriend has a service dog um and he says the reason i like calling this medicine is it's stimulated my own consciousnesses conch is that right

consciousnesses ability for self-healing uh you understand why it's okay to experience unconditional love for yourself like that uh for that passage really gets it. Like what I find so promising is like the thing that the thing that gets in the way of our, you know, psychiatric progress is like that. constantly shifting uh just more complicated than we could even possibly like conceive a thing that we mostly don't have access to like with our conscious mind and like the fact that this just gives you access to this thing that's so much more powerful than uh you can you can imagine as opposed to like you were saying miles as opposed to like numbing one part of that thing or you know uh separating us from the effects of that thing like i i feel like that is kind of again i could be like a sea change and yeah because i think it's like almost undoing all of this shit that we have societally that creates that puts us in the condition we're in currently yeah and it and depending on if the environments you grew up in

and your experiences were traumatic and things like that, that on top of all of this can create a situation where it can become nearly impossible to have a level of self-examination or awareness because you've had to build up so many layers to survive and just prolong your experience, even no matter how tormented it is, that you sort of need this to, like, again, this idea that experiencing unconditional love for yourself, I think sounds foreign to most people.

Well, at least in America, like a lot of people, maybe on a, you know, Pinterest way, no loving yourself. yourself but in a very truly holistic idea of like what that means to engage in you know practicing unconditional love for yourself to treat yourself with kindness to be aware that there is a relationship between you and yourself that you have to enrich uh i think yeah it's one of those things that you can like feel vibrationally uh in those moments yeah just reading the and you know psilocybin has been used for people who are about to die like they get to have these uh clinical experiences where they encounter that and i don't know it just makes me wonder like why we wait to give people a fear of death curing like circumspection pill until they're about to die like what if right our teachers and police and leaders and you know all had the opportunity to view the world

with that wider lens maybe we wouldn't have as many soldiers coming home from wars with ptsd in the first place right. To consider what it means to be human. Right. Yeah. Well, and then, but like, then you'll have people like Elon Musk, like, yeah, I microdose all the time. Yeah.

It's really fucking trippy. Right. I don't know why he became Snake from The Simpsons, but like there's, but I think there is like to pair it with like the, the desire to improve yourself and and having someone there to help you with that professionally. I think it's like, man, I yeah, again, I hope this will become the norm because we so much of our medicine and things like that is just to get people to like zero or like neutral, never to go past that or, you know, just to make people to like. Zero. Or like neutral. Never to go past that. Or you know.

Just to make things bearable. Like rather than. How can we actually. Help everyone move. Push past. Certain things. And actually enrich themselves. That's so funny.

Shout out to mushrooms. The tech industry. Yeah. Shout out to mushrooms. Yeah. It's funny that the tech industry. Is using. This tool. For like greater human understanding

and like circumspection to like it makes me better at capitalism dude just like that makes me i'm like so much like just on it you know in the pocket ready to go just thinking outside the box on how to exploit all this intellectual property you know what i mean of course they are though fuck man oh yeah okay so i came up with nfts yeah that's totally nfts is totally mushrooms though that's totally yeah that's a mushroom trip hold on hold on i got something i got something i got something fuck get it away from these people oh no all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show

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