The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 175 (Best of 5/10/21-5/14/21)

Episode Date: May 16, 2021

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it's me brady reed aka fly away on my pepper i've tasted more than cheddar. Do you guys like that song? Oh, hell yeah. Alright, CPK, man. We're here. We're here. It's good to be here. Don't listen to Miles, everyone. Don't get the Vax. Definitely get the Vax. Just get the first one.

You don't have to get vaccinated yeah me too I am friends with like a bunch all of my close friends are just like hella old people they come over we play cards and we play chess. And they tell me about the Tuskegee experiments and stuff like that. Right. You know, I have to show them, you know, a PowerPoint every single time. Okay, that's fair. That's fair.

That's fair. That's fair. And I'm going to start off by saying that's fair. Absolutely. So I've had to convince people in my life to get first shot second shots third shots yeah but they're getting them i'm holding them down i'm putting them in their arms i got i got a friend to to get vaccinated because i said we wouldn't be able to go to a laker game oh uh-huh and he was like oh for real he's like oh okay yeah i should probably get that then and i was like oh

my god bleeds only i couldn't but i got real mad like i didn't then. And I was like, oh my God. They make you get nosebleeds only. I couldn't, and I got real mad. I didn't tell him, but I was like, the fuck, bro? It wasn't everything else. It was merely the thought of you getting embarrassed walking into Staples Center when they're like, you've been vaccinated, my man. And you're like, who?

Was that friend LeBron James, by the way? Because he doesn't seem to want to get vaccinated. Yeah. Which I understand, because he does seem to be the only indestructible human being on the planet but still man you could be passing that shit around right i understand it from like a comic book level but not a reality based level where you still a human lebron they said i can't go to anime conventions anymore unless i get it so

yeah yeah yeah exactly we were also talking before we recorded about the, uh, the difficulties socially of emerging back into, uh, the world. It's, it's not easy. It's never been easy for me.

I worked from home for four years, just in a kitchen where, uh, my wife was, uh, going to medical school. So I barely saw her. Uh,

and then we moved to la from columbia missouri and i didn't know how to talk to people anymore i was like i couldn't even like be in a public setting it was wild i mean some people you would argue that you still don't know how to talk to people right yeah why is he only looking at my shoes yeah be patient with yourself everyone we're all going to be a little awkward here at first we had to literally change

full on our way of life rapidly so yeah it's going to take a minute to thaw start off simple have some board game parties before you have full-blown parties. Play some Apples to Apples or something. Yeah, you want to prevent people getting so fucked up

they start getting emotional phase of partying. That's about a month in for me. I'm going to be like, yo, yo, we're not drinking like that. We're not drinking like that. No, we are at a pool party right now. Yeah, exactly. We're chilling. We're chilling.

No crying in the pool. My turn-up schedule has me turning up in about six weeks so yeah people experiencing social anxiety for the first time like that that will make you drink too fast do not uh don't do that because you're like oh i gotta gotta get as many of these and in the old uh body i'm gonna have my first house party is going to be strictly martinelli's no alcoholic beverages just fake champagne low sodium food just very you know like let's carrots you know straight and narrow yeah exactly right i drank so much apple juice when i was a kid and like now when i taste apple juice it's it's like fucking maple syrup that is like the thickest sweetest shit um yeah it truly is not healthy yeah for that much

sugar to be in a child's body yeah no but for whatever reason that was like the thing like my mom thought because you know my mom only like i think from her perspective as a japanese immigrant was like sodas are bad. Yeah. So you're not drinking soda. But this glass bottle that is all sugar. Yeah. Yeah. Just put down those because I would like at a certain point, I really could not get off Martinelli's apple juice.

Yeah. Because I was just. It's a sippable drink. It's certainly sipping. Yeah. And then I got like, as I got older, I would drink the whole apple shaped bottle and then my mom would get mad at me and then this is when you know she was trying to change me but the sugar fucking already had me yeah no our like i feel like our whole generation was just like juice was a health food no matter what and it's just like no that's that's

just straight up capri suns yeah remember Yeah. Remember that girl, Alex Mack? Yep. It was on the news. Yep. It was on Nick News. Yeah, totally. Get that, because I'm your age. What is something from your search history

that's revealing about who you are? Yeah, so this needs a little bit of setup. I'll ask you guys, how familiar are you with Sonic the Hedgehog fan art? Oh, fan art? Yeah. Like the fan art community around the video game character Sonic the Hedgehog. I mean, I'm familiar enough with the franchise where when I've encountered fan art, it kind of makes sense.

But I don't know if I could call out specific pieces of fan art. Or maybe I could if I saw it. Because I don't know. I see so much internet all the time that I'd say say 50 chance i know what we're talking about okay yeah i mean i would say that there's i'm a collector but go ahead over leveraged on sonic fan art nft you have a lot of nfts yeah yeah um so okay so yes the Hedgehog fan art. It has a robust community. And, you know, like, there's the typical kind of, like, fan art genres that you might expect. You know, like, you know, Sonic as Avatar the Last Airbender. And, you know, but then, of course, you get into the erotic.

Sonic with a, you know, huge veiny crank giving it to luigi things like go on yeah so you know what what you would expect but i'm intrigued so and the but the genres get even more specific there is a a robust and thriving community of christian sonic fan art people so it's like sonic weeping at the foot of the cross oh my god yep uh you know sonic reading bible verses but they'll awkwardly insert other sonic the sonic characters so it'll be like no one comes to the father but through me knuckles so so that exists right oh shit okay and the one i found out about this week was there is sonic on his deathbed fan art so it's like sonic in the hospital on on life support and then like tails weeping at his bedside. And it's not just one person did this.

Many people have done this. Most of it's done in MS Paint, and it's like I don't know where it comes from. He's intubated. Yeah, it's bad based on whatever we're looking at. That's so great.

I have now Googled sonic fan art deathbed yeah mario looks so sad and this uh the top result for sonic's deathbed yeah and you'd think he'd be like man fuck that like you'd think he'd be kicking the plug out of his like life support machine you would think so he's nintendo all day he's my Sega. Absolutely. This guy razzed me in commercials in the 90s. He beat me in the Olympics. But it's, you know, when it feels like the easy Dr. Dre thing. When Easy was on his deathbed, Dre came through and was like, look, man, like, let's put all that shit behind us. I feel like Mario is Dre in this situation.

He's like, you know, we had our differences, but we are the same deep down. Seeing you dying here is a little too close for home. It's making me think about my own mortality. Also, Luigi clearly injected you with whatever's killing you. Feel bad about that.

What is something you think is overrated, Jordan? you with whatever's killing you. Yeah. Feel bad about that. Right. Ain't no hard feelings, man. What is something you think is overrated, Jordan? About once a year, I forget that I hate Starbucks blended drinks. And I get a Starbucks blended drink because it's time for a treat. Yeah. You know? And I get it because it looks good on the menu yeah really good photography for god very good photography yeah geez if you've ever seen one

of those starbucks breakfast sandwiches in person versus the menu oh yeah you know the sous vide egg bites like you're like oh wow and you're like are these pencil erasers that are just greasy but they taste good yeah yeah that's what i was gonna say the same thing about the breakfast sandwich is the the sausage cheddar uh egg breakfast sandwich looks like shit it looks like shit and even like parts of it are uh hard that shouldn't be hard oh yeah and yet like microwave to fuck i've never had one that i didn't enjoy like 80 of the sandwich for some reason they just they have i think whatever chemicals they put in there agree to the if you're getting a starbucks breakfast sandwich it's because you're so out your mind hungry yes that's also true and that's why is it because it's

relative to your hunger because i'm never checking for a Starbucks breakfast. I'm doing that because I'm like, fuck. What has something that resembles breakfast? I'm at the airport and I'm mad. I need something. Gatorade tastes better when you're running a marathon. That's like the equivalent of the trick my brain is playing on me. Wait, so what's your experience like with the blended drinks?

In your mind, what's it going to be? And it always ends up being another. It sounds like me with cotton or candy corn. Yeah yeah no i mean that's a great that's a great analogy that thing that like one one bite or one sip of it is a lot of fun and then the fifth bite you're like fuck this yeah i just like i get it and i'm like hey this will be like you know this will be this will be tasty this will give me a little pep and i every time i have it i'm like this is this is icy this is chonky in a way that i don't like and i just wish it was a carl's junior milkshake for the calories you know like right right right it's it's ice it's like ice crystals at the core with like

the coffee milky stuff around it so yeah it just makes you wish it was a milkshake because like a slushy, a slurpy, I can deal with the fact that like the balance gets thrown off as I'm drinking it and it's just ice left behind. But when it's a coffee drink, it's like that balance is too fucked up. It's like now I just feel like I'm drinking like the weakest coffee that's ever been brewed and then left out for, how does it stack up against a cool lot of from Duncan? I think it's similar. I may, you know, is it equally frustrating? Cause I feel like,

you know, everybody's kind of, it ends up being a lot of frozen water and the end of the day, it sounds like what we are looking at is trying to move away from the frappe and towards milkshake territory with these drinks. I am not a Duncan guy. I grew up on the West Coast, so Duncans are kind of a new thing for me in the landscape. I moved recently, and there's a close Duncan.

I've just never liked it i i can't find anything i like there i i kind of want to join the east coast people and they're like enthusiasm for duncan because i think it's very sincere i think it's very adorable and i want to like i don't know i want to share that because i do love donuts but it's every time i've gone to duncan it sucks and i don't i don't want it to i want that sour cream get that sour cream oh Get that sour cream. Oh, yeah? Donut, yeah.

Okay. That's what Jack put me onto when we were... I'm like a Dunkin'. All sour cream cake donuts. I feel like it's pretty hard to fuck up if you're... Have you only been to Dunkin' on the West Coast? And I'm not a Dunkin' apologist by any means, but I've... No, no, no.

And I'm her Dunkin' apologist. You're just a paid endorser. Yeah. I think I've had it out here a couple times, and then I've had it a couple times on the by any means but no no and i'm heard you're just an apologist paid endorser uh yeah i think i i've had it out here a couple times and then i had i've had it a couple times on the east coast as like road trip airport yeah like a road trip airport type stop yeah i've heard people who are duncan defenders in the marketing meetings we have with the duncan people uh tell me that you're supposed to that like they're like well it's different on the west coast and i think it's also like franchisee and so like you can hit a really bad one you know that is just like oh yeah so we go

ahead ask jamie loftus i'm sure she can rank our west coast duncan i think she's more in it for like the duncan swag then but But I guess she also likes the... That's not shade. That's not shade. I just feel like I don't want people... All right. Sorry, Jamie. To doubt your...

I don't know. A bit of light ribbing podcaster to podcaster. I think we can handle it. The internet, can't we? What's something you think is overrated? There's a lot of things I think we can handle it. The internet, can't we? What's something you think is overrated? There's a lot of things I think overrated. I live quality. But camping.

Okay. I think camping's overrated. Are you a camper at all? Or are you just... My wife is. I just, I mean, principally speaking, I'm like, why would I leave a perfectly good inside to construct a subpar outside right you know i'm saying and like and the degree for which you enjoy

camping is the level for which my subpar inside i constructed becomes like the inside i just left so i'm you know i'm saying so I'm, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm okay. I'm a, this is a really comfortable sleeping bag. It's just like a bed. Well then what the fuck? Why don't I just stay in the bed? You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you know, oh man, it's this, this tent is so warm. It's like walls. Okay. Why would I leave walls to go to like walls? You know what I'm saying? I got a fire pit outside in my backyard i could cook over an open fire that's fine and then go sleep in a temperature controlled place i just there's bears like with mosquitoes i gotta spray myself down with chemicals so i don't get bit or i could just

stay inside i don't understand why everybody is so in love we figured the neanderthals figured out that it's better to be inside right right exactly so i'm just like this shit is overrated like you spending so much money to make what you already got right does it have anything to do with being growing up in the city being i think it has a lot to do with that because i'm the i feel the same like i like going it's like fun for like a the first a lot to do with that because i'm the i feel the same like i like going it's like fun for like a the first time like okay that was cool but i'm like but for real like no there's a lot of shit i need days yeah i like hiking i'll go out for like a day i'll go exactly i'm like the outside is beautiful don't get me wrong like you know i'm saying nature's

amazing you know i'm saying but i'm like i gotta sleep out here like that's ridiculous you know i'm saying nature's amazing you know i'm saying but i'm like i gotta sleep out here like that's ridiculous you know so yeah like we go to like our little staycations i go to joshua tree you know i'm saying we go have a great time out there and then go to a nice airbnb there you go inside yeah inside yeah i think it's the it's funny yeah just growing up in the city too like i loved whenever i could go like anytime there was a field trip to nature i was like oh this is fucking dope like it's so different than just the fucking valley and shit but then after a while like i think as you kind of get set into your ways it got a little bit harder for me but you know all that to say i i'd imagine maybe i could endure it like if i go to one of those places like the beginning of Big Little Lies. Yeah.

You know what I mean? You know what? That kind of shit, like Carmel. Yeah. Now that you say it, I think there might be some psychological trauma from childhood, from feeling like, you know what I'm saying? Like my dad, my father was a black panther but he was like city boy ladies man like i don't know i changed no oil i ain't know how to like i won't work on cars like right i don't know how to do none of this shit so like i feel like since my father

wasn't like these other dads who had tents and stuff like that right like you you low-key feel like you know i'm saying like you you you less of a boy than the rest of the other boys oh yeah see i'm the same way i came from a tentless home as well yeah exactly a tentless home i was like we ain't got money for that like what you want to buy a tent what is it for to sit in the garage right the hell we gonna do with this so so yeah so i feel like i remember yo i remember first time i went Yeah. There was this family down the street, you know, just manly men had their boat, had their RV. You know what I'm saying? And they went. So they went out to.

Oh, man, where was that? I want to say it was like Angeles Crest. So like up in like La Crescenta, they went up there to like to go fishing. So I got to go with them and three boys. And I mean, like Boy Scouts. Right. So we went and I remember they was fighting over who gets to throw the throw the anchor down. So they were like, no, no, no, no, no. Jason's our guest. We're going to let him do it. So I threw the anchor down.

And as it's going down, I realized i ain't tired to the boat so i'm watching the shit come on come on yeah i'm yeah but i'm panicking like i'm panicking yeah oh you know so i don't say nothing but they are they are my my back is to them so they can't see this happening and then as the boat's drifting they're like what happened and i remember now as a father like how well these boys dads handled this like they he was just like jason did you tie the and i was like no you know and yeah and he was like did you tell me to tie i know right that's what i should have said fuck off but yeah i wish i had i wish i had the balls to do that but nah he was like and the boys are like all biting their tongue because they was like we told you not to let him

you know what i'm saying right so so they're like it's okay it's boys it's okay we'll just go get another one we'll have to pay for this and we'll just go get another one come out so i cost them like 50 bucks in a couple hours you know but like after that i was like i'm never getting on another damn boat again but we'll let's we'll create the space to allow that younger jason to heal thank you i appreciate it because it wasn't your fault you know they didn't fucking train you and then they tell me like that you know i'm saying they thought they was doing something good you know we don't take the take the kid take the poor kid out fishing the only time uh we ever camped when i was a kid with my family was uh when they were painting the inside of our house and we couldn't sleep in our room and so they set up a

tent we borrowed a tent from the neighbors and put it in our backyard and that was uh that was fucking dope that was that was the most fun thing you can do. That sounds fun. Yeah, it was fun. And then I went in because I was like, this is uncomfortable. So I slept on the couch. Same thing with me. And first time I camped in my backyard, my dad was like, fuck.

Because he was like, you really want to do this? I'm like, I don't know. We just watched that movie Congo where they just threw those pop tents out. They just threw the motherfucker out and it was a fully made tent. And I was like, we got to get on that wave. So this is dope. Yeah. One of them,

one of the, our neighbors had one. So we borrowed it. The tiniest by the way. And by, by fucking, I remember 10, like by 10 o'clock we got in there,

like at seven, I was like, I want to go inside and he's like yeah i was gonna i was actually gonna wait for you to fall asleep and i was like just drag your ass inside video games i love that congo made you want to go camping because yeah jaws made me want to go swim in the ocean and get eaten by a shark like when i was kid kids are so dumb yeah yeah what is uh what's something you think is underrated plants i love plants man i think plants i have so many so many plants and i want more and there's something i think on this topic it's there's something really powerful about having to wait

for something you know especially Twitter, where everything is about the immediate likes you're pulling down and refreshing like a freaking slot machine. And everything's just you get everything right away. So I think there's something really powerful in slowly watering a plant, taking care of it, checking, checking the soil, making sure it's not dry, and waiting for a month for that first sprout and then propagating taking the leaves and soaking them in water so that they can sprout new roots there's like something incredibly meditative about waiting you know so i think plantain bible it was because of covid man because covid i i had to stay home like everybody else and it drove me crazy and i felt like i needed

something to pull me away from the screens. Cause I was going from tiny screen to medium screen, to big screen, to medium screen, to small screen, just on loop. So I needed to, I needed like an activity in my,

in my city environment where there's really not a lot of space. So I needed something to do. And, uh, I joined like this plant club where they gave you a bunch of free plants and that like really it hit me man it was it hit me right in in like three seconds i sat down i i was just staring at it like the little seed and waiting for it to pop out and i was like this is dope i want to do this all day just staring at dirt propagatingagating, yeah. I got notes. I got notes on this plant.

It's taken way too long. We need a little bit more action up front. Maybe just a little tease. Just give me a little bit up front. Where are the LED lights on this plant? Right. I don't know. Where's the smoke machine?

I don't like this one. But, yeah, we propagate in my crib. Because the second, like, my mom mom she loves succulents and stuff and so when she first put us on to like no just lob it off and get that thing going and then you can keep exponentially multiplying and now we're like kind of addicted to it like we got so many clippings soaking in water that like at a certain point i'm like what are we gonna do with all these but it is nice to like even the process. Yeah, there is some meditative aspect to it because there is feedback.

Like it's not a process devoid of feedback, but it takes time. And I think being able to sit within those like intervals without the feedback is, you know, where the Zen comes in. Dude, I put it, I put a couple of leaves in some, some cups, some glass cups so I can wash the roots. And wifey, it was like her favorite cup. So she took it and put it in like this plastic cup that you can't see through. And I flipped out. I was like, what are you doing? I need to see the roots.

I need to see the roots. I have to see what's going on. I need the feedback. So I'm still addicted, but I'm working on it. The best is when you see a leave coming out and you're like oh this motherfucker about to unfurl on oh man oh yeah go on then that just rents your fucking leaf wings now i just got a shot of dopamine when you said that yeah it's funny because yeah my partner should be like yo yo yo yo it's gonna happen either today or tomorrow

and you're like oh you can see his bust you know it's trying to bust open oh come on now do your thing that was the the horniest description of plant life i've ever heard i'm not gonna lie we have a bird of paradise all over the place that is look it is a little erotic because we had a bird of paradise where the you know like when the flowers come out they undulate with all this fucking energy you know what i mean and you're like oh this thing because it has to you know it miles is getting gross it blossoms this is you know what i mean i'm making my next court appearance undulate 3000 undulator 3000 what was that song by that like kind of electronic oh tessellate that's what it was not undulate but it was like all right that was a weird way to describe sex but yeah i really like the point about time like mixing up

the things you're interacting with the living things you're interacting with them like the timeline they're on like that they that that just like slows you down a little bit like and if you have a relationship with something that moves at the pace of like days as opposed to you know seconds uh that's cool that's cool i hadn't really thought about it that way you get some plans man yeah i should uh yeah fortunately we've been saying that for a long time amen you know yeah well there's the really i've been saying hey let me grow weed in your garage you're not using it uh benny keeps saying no but you know whatever the point remains you know you should get you should get into plants the electric company's starting to pay attention miles i just i said

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And apparently it's not just because Bill Gates is like super horny. It's yeah. Yeah. Scammers. I think everywhere. it's yeah yeah scammers i think everywhere it's just like them breaking up has just created all kinds of internet jokery of all kinds of of shenanigans so tinder they've they were asked you know like what's going on with this do you think like there's a lot of people trying to impersonate bill gates they said like we don't have all the data specifically as it relates to

bill gates fake accounts but they basically said but trust us when we say this, you will not be able to successfully impersonate Bill Gates for too long because there's apparently a few steps that they have to say. So if you want to verify your profile, at first you got to scan your face with facial recognition software so it will match the pictures. There's like, okay, so good luck with that. And then they're also reviewed and scanned for like any oddities before going live apparently. And they said, if someone did want to like flag it, then they could look and further verify. But they're saying it's,

while some people may get through it, like by being clever about stuff overall, more than likely, if someone does get to you saying they're Bill Gates, it probably won't be be but also they're saying you might not even encounter bill gates they're trying to clean up tinder okay we get it why why are people even doing that that's my fucking that's my major my if it's like who are you making laugh with that who are you fooling like it's too much there's too much emphasis put on on just being able to make someone look like an ass as a victory like if you're not saying anything or doing something particularly funny this all feels like just whack like starting a fire in a parking lot yeah shit you know what i mean where it's like yeah it's like the first thought of a joke which is what if we what if bill gates on tinder and we

made that and it ends there and it's not funny after that we impersonated a divorced man trying to get laid to other people like it's like right and then you're like you're against like oh dude i matched with my mom what do i do it's like oh shit i didn't want an intent for any of this shit last night i had to dress up as bill gates and fuck my mom she's so into it i feel so stupid is there some like cultural weird uh urge to impersonate bill gates because there was also that bill gates impersonator on nathan for you who was like yeah didn't look like bill gates at all but was like still like yeah i'm a real real gates yeah who i ran into at the supermarket and i made him take a picture with me when i saw him and he was

wearing his like Razor, because he's a big Razorbacks fan, if you remember the Nathan Free episode. But yeah, I don't know what they would do even if you got that far. I think it's just much in the same way that people were just doing screenshots of DMs from Bill Gates trying to pretend

he was hollering at people. It's just an internet joke that ends the second it becomes real. But Bill Gates is not on tinder yeah first of all we know we know an exclusive dating app exists called raya right that means that there's 10 we don't know about like right exactly yeah there are some that bill gates just might have more opportunities than the rest of the world is my guess and i think that's has something to do with why his wife wanted to get divorced because it seems like you're saying him palling around with jeffrey epstein uh in terms of being like you know these people don't

move nor like normal people uh and you see oh right they buy whole islands where they have their trafficking people and they go on their private jets there. So Melinda Gates has had an issue with Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates hanging out, apparently. My wife hates my friends. Why? Because you're always drinking and partying? No, because they're legendary pedophiles. Because I told you this guy's a sex crim and he just made a plea deal and somehow got off and you're still hanging out with him. And he just made a plea deal and somehow got off and you're still hanging out with him. So she said in since 2013, she has been warning Bill Gates about hanging around Jeffrey Epstein.

She's like, that's because that story came out. She's like, dude, stay away. What are you doing? This guy, this is like so fucking alarming. former manager of the Gates Foundation, then said that the relationships between the two men and other like employees of the foundation like started growing even after Melinda was like very unequivocal about being like stay away. And then on top of that, apparently the divorce start, the divorce sort of exploratory conversations began in 2019 around the time this New York Times piece came out that was like outlining the successful people who epstein was kicking it with etc and it also included this very specific line from that article which may i don't know if has something to do with her calling her lawyers up

but few compared in prestige and power to the then world's second richest person person a brilliant and intensely private luminary bill gates and unlike many others mr gates started the relationship after mr epstein was convicted of sex crimes so then she started talking to her lawyers again that all of it is just you know anecdotal so who knows if that's exactly what happened but it seems like if you were getting warnings in 2013 and you still didn't heed them it's all very yeah you got to change for your partner especially if the change they're asking is please stop hanging out with pedophiles like honestly they're talking about the least you could do for a partner is that right also while we're just psychoanalyzing

a billionaire's marriage uh from hipfire psychiatry from the three of us uh i gotta say wasn't there something interesting or to me it kind of made bill gates even cool bill and melinda even cooler that he had carved out in their marriage he had carved out one week yeah he had like a hall pass weekend to go to his beach house with his ex with his ex that's what's so fucking i know i would be like i put the wording in that it could be anyone right yeah like why that's a weird legal throuple you're in then yes point you know what i mean like it's vividly this other person but that's that's some 20 more 21st century marriage shit though which is like you know yeah people know what they

want ask for it and get it and and melinda's even like dude i've been letting you fuck a weekend now you want to go on a trip to an island with a temple with a fucking malcolm gladwell get the fuck off right i do wonder if she was waiting to like spring this for when he had like a PR fuck up like he did with the like coming out anti lifting the patents on the vaccine. Like if she was just like, all right, I know I want to get rid of this fucking asshole. But like, I need to win my sales. Right. right i need just like a little foothold so i can build up the momentum of oh yeah i remember this shit where he like carved out a fucking thing with specifically his ex or remember like this weird eyes wide shut like sex thing that he was involved with or right it's kind of

like the like it's weird when you're a celebrity in such a high-powered relationship like you have to think of the PR around divorcing. You're like, OK, he's going to fuck up and then I'm going to strike. Whereas like when you're a normal person, you're like, all right, if this will get super drunk again at this party, we're breaking up. That's like the normal person version of this. But then you got to line up as friends. So if he doesn't release those patents, I will divorce. so like if he doesn't release those patents i will divorce it it does feel like it does feel a little like the straw that broke the camel's back too where it's a little bit like look i let

you do this fucking thing i let you fucking the epstein shit has been bothering me and now you are like now we're bad guys because you won't fucking send vaccine components to india get the fuck out of here bill how much more money do we need what do you need a third beach house to fuck your high school girlfriend you know i didn't have a girlfriend in high school hence the epstein thing you know microsoft was a terrible nickname i was given by my fellow classmates i even fucking hate the the fact that like the new york times like brilliant luminary when describing him and the fact that this is this is like a royal divorce this is like front page news everywhere it's like what the fuck acquainted or depend on their fun it's so weird no one can just speak directly like right well yeah yeah we're so obsessed with rich people too that it's like there's no need for bill gates

to be a celebrity like there's no need for us to talk about him but we're obsessed and can you do we think partially is melinda sees what happens to bezos's ex where oh i think so yeah she's like let's get a divorce and he's like okay and she's like distance herself from a guy who's rapidly becoming a villain even more of a villain right and she gets to be go from uh married to the richest person to being like the third richest person in the world just by saying fuck this yeah and truly being like using philanthropy to like really differentiate yourself because i feel like mackenzie bezos has been doing a lot of like weird surprise like money drops on people she's been doing some crazy aggressive shit that no one seemed like she's like picking a small thing and overloading it with like a billion dollars or something it's like hell yeah let's try fucking every willie

wonka that shit yes bezos just stewing he's like this is what you're doing with the hundred billion you got don't you think it's weird that it hasn't been picked up more like shouldn't that be a i i do just wonder if that if that's like a again similar to the Washington Post exactly like he's a fucking he runs every like these guys run everything so of course it's like a company does every every journalism website read their servers from

right right yeah most likely every single one of them is if this podcast cuts out right now you'll know you know what's happening yeah I'm like yeah fuck you leave If this podcast cuts out right now, you'll know why. You know what's happening. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, fuck Jeff. You leave Epstein out of this. I was saying Bezos.

Yeah, somebody needs to also do it. They won't do it, but some non-mainstream journalist needs to do the app equivalent of Eyes Wide Shut. Like, whatever that is that's there. I'm sure a hacker has that somewhere. Very well-paid hacker. Let's talk about anti-maskers. They now are afraid of people who have been vaccinated because anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers are basically a circle. No longer. Venn diagram.

But now there's some conflict there because now the anti-maskers want a mask to keep free of the vaxxers' germs, I guess. Well, because they're so caught up on this modified RNA. Their fundamental misunderstandings of vaccines and even the technology of this specific one has sent them into this other world in which they're certain. They're like, you know, this is just proteins onto the unvaccinated who will then suffer adverse effects as well, which is the shedding will cause irregular menstruation, infertility and miscarriages. And again, this was all part of like motivating some people to not get it. And now influencers in the anti-vaxxer community are warning their followers to social distance. in the anti-vaxxer community are warning their followers to social distance okay and on a live stream one of these uh you know whatever conspiracy theorists were saying telling them imploring their

viewers say to stay away from somebody who's had these shots forever because we don't know how long they can be a threat to us another uh anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist said he's a new york uh pediatrician and conspiracy theorist because you also want your pediatrician to be a conspiracy theorist i think everyone knows that he was saying that vaccinated people should quote have a badge on their arms that say i've been vaccinated even though it's not a vaccine so that we know to avoid them on the street to not go near them anywhere in society and i'm like this is kind of cool yeah let's let them let them okay let them yeah away from us like oh you want me to shed on you you better back the fuck up they're doing the thing that we like felt like we shouldn't be doing technically is like making

them wear something to like avoid them because they could still have covet 19 like so they're just doing that that work for us yeah the pretzel like the brain pretzel you got to get into to make that work rather than something as simple as a uh viruses come out your nose and mouth so you should cover your nose and mouth that seemed real simple to me but all this rigmarole you got to do to get to like my my skin cells are gonna shed and the proteins will that's so much work bro like yeah god dog that's so much work yeah but what's interesting there's like a new thing i was reading from some mit research researchers who are sort of infiltrating these groups just to kind of study them like empirically. And they're saying like their respect for like empiricism is really

something like they really, they really try and use the same methodology of accepted science to sort of even navigate like their own conspiracy theories. So it's this really weird interest in science, but it's coming from the fucking worst angle and the worst set of ideas to start off with but yeah the whole thing with this though too this this sort of idea of shedding and the fear of that has gotten to the point where others are talking about how they should quarantine vaccinated family members there was a school

in miami that was even prohib prohibiting like vaccinated teachers from interacting with students. The mask thing is still up in the air, though, because apparently right now the shedding debate is like the new hot ticket item where they're using to, you know, justify their fear or whatever. I just feel like, man, some people just need a culture war. I just got to turn everything into a culture war. And it's it's it's exhausting you know and i just like this this new turn to me like i was finally like usually you're just like what why what this one i was like man i'm tired man like man come on y'all come on man you know i'm saying like you know anybody died from polio yeah Yeah, me neither. Right. You know why? For good reason. You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't know nobody with smallpox? Scurvy? Like, you know anybody with rickets? Like, no. I just like, why is it so hard, man? Like, why everything got to be a war? Why everything got to be a war? Yeah. Yeah. That's.

gotta be a war yeah yeah that's because i think on some level you know like it just plays into people's psychology or their own personal history where like they've just become contrarian throughout their lives and this because i look at even people who before who started veering in this direction even people in my own family who before were just like the trippy family member you know it's like oh you know like this is my secret. I eat. I have these herbs to stay healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nineties and shit. And now they're kind of on this. I think masks work.

And I'm like, oh, fuck. I mean, it's like sort of like it's definitely like a personality trait because I would have never begged them for that because they're very intelligent. But again, this is something we've discussed, too, like with cult members, like intelligence can kind of fuck you up too because you can really convince yourself that what you're saying is fact. Yeah, man. Yeah, like the unraveling of like the baseline of reality that you've set up, if that unravels,

it's like only chaos can be on the other side of this. You know what I'm saying? But like those of us who've been through certain, lived a little, been through metamorphosis that are like, you can't be afraid of that cliff. You know, so once you jump over that cliff and you're like, oh, okay, it's fine. You know what I'm saying? The world didn't blow up. You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember I, you know, I came from like any other black person in LA.

We went to church. You know what I'm saying? I came from like any other black person in LA. We went to church. You know what I'm saying? So I like first time I had like, you know, premarital sex and God didn't rip the roof open and strike my naked body with lightning. You know what I'm saying? That you're just like, I guess. Oh, oh, OK. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, all right. So now I get to decide, like, what kind of man I going to be? You know what I'm saying? It's not, not for fear of, you know, immediate destruction, you feel me? So I just think like when that reality unravels, you know what I'm saying? And I honestly think, like you said, like it had nothing to do with, it got nothing to do with intelligence, but like, to me, it's like that fear of the unraveling, you know what I'm saying? Like you have, you ain't never looked into no abyss, you know, and was willing to walk into and you realize, yo, it's an art here, bro. Like you can go through the looking glass and it's fine. You know what I'm saying?

You might jump off the cliff and realize you could fly. Nigga, I can fly. You know what I mean? Rather than thinking it's going to just come bringing you flat down on the ground. That part of that is the growth you experience is going into the unknown yeah you know and like experiences and being willing to be wrong you know i'm saying like then and i think that that like that's another thing i feel like what happened in that world is like man you just yo take the l like you could like it's no problem being like you know what

i used to think this about mask turns out yeah right you know i'm saying like right it's cool to be wrong like i would be like i thought look i was i was fucked up on uh fucking loose change and like coming out of college and you know so then i was like well maybe i can like i could like go some some weird conspiracy theories and shit like that yeah but it definitely takes a moment too where you got to be able to say, oh, right. Everything that I believe doesn't have to be real. In fact, yeah, this is a this is a process of like sorting through ideas and ideologies and figuring out like what is best for me. Yeah. But there's just too much. There's too much information.

It's the it's the I feel like this is the combination of the fact that, you know, there's no authoritative source that everybody agrees on. This is where you get your information from. So there's just everything is a source of information. of being allergic to collect collectivism and needing something to differentiate yourself from other people to make you feel special, to make you feel like you're like a tiny version of Harry Potter where you're like the one who was always it, like who was chosen to know this hidden information. Like America,

I think America has become increasingly reliant on those sorts of things psychologically as things like social like people stopped going to church people stopped going to bowling leagues people stopped getting to know their neighbors uh and now it's like we need to not just believe that we are perfect, like individuals who control our own destiny, but that we're like special, magical individuals who are more the most important in the world secretly revolves around them. It's kind of like that, too, that mentality. I was talking to somebody over the weekend about how, like when you're younger, your personality is more defined about with like what you're not fucking with. Yeah, not necessarily what you're interested in. It's mostly defined about what you're not fucking with yeah not necessarily what you're interested in it's mostly

defined about what you reject yeah and like that's a very beginning phase of identity formation is like yeah i'm not fucking with it oh fucking that cartoon no that's for babies you know that's the mentality and that's the same shit oh wearing masks uh-uh that's for fucking sheep like right not oh that's not a way to navigate this this event in your life i'm not fucking with it to the side with it no because then when you think about when you hit like middle school and you got to find your like what i like to call your er like i'm a skater i'm a rapper right right right you got to find your er and then it's i going along with your example some people never like

oh i don't fuck a rap i'm with this you know if you don't never mature out of that you know i'm saying whereas like i left that in eighth grade like you know i'm saying like these rules are not hard and fast like i i can like nirvana like what's right what's wrong with me like in nirvana you know i'm saying but that that next thing right that next evolution of like forming your your this your sense of self to where you're like y'all these categories are made up they don't have to be this way yeah and my importance as an individual is it's not a zero sum game you know i'm saying that like if i if i allow myself to be a part of the collective community you know i'm saying that that's somehow another takes away from my individualism yeah that's like you gotta like yeah yeah you're not yeah you're not seeing the whole picture at that yeah you know I'm saying and then and then it's

like what's crazy is like how you did how you how you kid yourself with this idea of like you're saying like I need my nose to be more special like I'm what America's earth special little guy you know I'm saying right and i am the special little guy in america right i don't i think for myself but yet you still are part of a herd and that herd is called anti-vax you know what i'm saying so it's like you still joining the tribe you know what i'm saying like yeah you're still in a crew you know some ronin with like your own code to come on now untameable yeah your own research that's the thing they all say now which just means like you you have to like go to untrustworthy sources i'll do

it like i've been doing it i'll go to the expert as a former as a former ninth grade teacher i can tell you none of these fools know how to research right so yeah yeah i would have you would have all failed my class like this is not this ain't a research paper fab that's a meme did you check this source cuz like uk this source did you did are you did you look for any dissenting voices do this over do this paper but arthur's balled up fish represents the antebellum plantation owners ready to knuckle up against the north. That's what you got? All right. See, look, here's the timeline.

John Brown. Then you got the Arthur fist. OK, right. Then you got that SpongeBob meme where they're looking out the window and they're having fun. So seriously. So that's what it is. You're just trying to brainwash me. Right, right.

Like, OK. Yeah. Cool. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Cool. I feel like people are, you know, did you guys ever have friends who would stop liking a band once other people started liking them? Oh, yeah. Or stop liking a musician once other people started liking them? I feel like that's how people are now with like news sources.

Yeah. Like that's just too, that's too mainstream. Too mainstream. Too many people respect it let's right yeah it's like to the point i only fuck with alex jones that's like sometimes when you hear people like man i only fuck with this kind of music or whatever and you're like no this person's kind of at the top of their game you're like nah fuck that you don't want to see this person that's trash and i'm like that's not a really good comparison like i call it the chance the rapper

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Brody and I have been going to boxing classes just to get ready for this. The sweet science. Am I right, fellas? I mean, yeah, I want to see Floyd Mayweather beat the fucking brakes off. I just want to see him get humiliated so bad. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I'll even be able to watch it because I want to see that happen so bad. But didn't Jake Paul FaceTime or something recently with donald trump or someone

like that yeah over the weekend i think he hollered at him yeah they're straight up like they're you know he's gobbling coded like where's the aryan he's a great white hype totally great white hype about to fight floyd mayweather that's that's how they're billing it it's like their little tussle they had was fucking i don't know if that was real or not but i mean his brother jake paul looked a little shooketh yeah he came out of it with a black eye but he was like it wasn't it wasn't the floyd didn't hit me it was his bodyguard so uh i won um but like even when you look at like the rhetoric that he was using like jake paul came up like that floyd mayweather and uh his brother were on stage and jake paul came up was like your

shoes aren't tied dude it's like wait what are you like a 60 year old fucking like you a old white principal at the inner city high school talking about hey your pants are sagging right and then tried to let your mother let's leave the house sticks and stones gonna break my bones but these fists will yeah anyways let's let's hope they do it's yeah it's uh if there's i mean i mean fuck floyd mayweather too on sudden oh yeah like a horrible atrocious human it's just like that's why i'm like fuck uh i don't know the amoeba versus the parasite like okay yeah i but i definitely want the noisy dude they're both noisy but if there's something you you want to see the guy who was out here being like yo i'll fucking fight anybody like learn what it means to fight somebody who's like undefeated professionally

i want to see a third guy get in and beat up both of them. Right after. Like right after the fight when they're drained, Kimbo Slice comes back from heaven and just knocks him the fuck out. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about the new Cola Wars, the hard seltzer wars. They are upon us. There is a lot of lobbying money flying around with seltzers at the moment. We about in like a few weeks ago about how like white claw had like their new like surge level like fucking white claw that had like more alcohol or whatever but a lot of this has to do with like new players entering the game

so first of all white claw the seltzer shit is not a flash in the pan. I mean, I was like, okay, this is cool. I'm sure it'll level off. They upped their sales by 160% in 2020. And it's not even just because people were at home more. They did over $4 billion in sales. They did $2.6 billion the year before, overall in the market for seltzers. And they're now got nearly 10 percent of the beer category.

And what's that's doing is creating a lot of ripple effects. The first one is that craft beer brewers are now all having to make seltzers because they're they're looking at analysis and they're like seltzers are going to take over the craft beer segment. Like they're going to be a bigger segment than craft beers. So you have people like stone who does stone ipa and all these other like craft brewers getting in the fucking seltzer game because they can't miss the fucking wave and isn't the goal of a seltzer to like taste like nothing

so like what is that they're gonna be like ours tastes extra like nothing like the memory of a dark cherry yeah yeah essence of nothing called father's promise it's this like but they're the way stone is doing it is they're putting it in a glass bottle like they're thinking like they're trying to fuck with consumers i'm in is like glass clear bottle not the fucking slim can like we want to show people that it's clear we want to show people like and give it this like it's called like buena vida or shit. So they're really trying to sell you on this healthy life shit. But it's not just them. There was a letter that was being written by the head of Boston Beers who makes Sam Adams.

And they also make- Head of Boston Beers. Head of Boston Beers. Head of Boston Beers. That's how he starts every letter. Guys, we got to get agonized. Head of Boston Beers here. We've got to get agonized.

These ready to drinks, they're going fucking, they're gonna, they're gonna get us all fucked up, bro. So they're trying to get agonized because the spirit makers are now like, well, hold on, hold on, hold on. People, seltzers on the come up. Well, what the fuck? We should be there too. Because I think a lot of people think of seltzers already as a quasi like vodka soda type right can yeah they're uh they're built on a lie they they claim to be like seltzer with or

like i think people assume they are seltzer with vodka in it but it's actually like a malt liquor exactly yeah which brings us to the lobby so the reason they have to do that is for taxes right they it's taxed differently if it's a a malt liquor versus a spirit because of prohibition. Thank you for that temperance movement. And the whole thing with the, like the lobbying is around, they're arguing saying that we need to change the tax codes actually, because it's the same ABV. And that used to be sort of part of the logic. And we shouldn't buy like it's blurring the lines now with these seltzers that they feel like we should be able to hop in. No problem. And we can use spirits now to turn these up. And it's turning into like not even like federal level, but even like local level where states that have like, you know, monopolies on selling certain alcohols. They're even being lobbied to to like consider their you know their whatever their rules their regulations consider the poor vodka bottlers won't you yeah um what will smirnoff do because i think crown royals like already in the game and they're they're doing well so it's not

just a interesting thing to watch all these treats turn into like momentary like meme drinks and now just being like nah because the other thing too is they point in this article in the Daily Beast was about how a lot of people like certain drinks were fads because people just would drink something because that was the thing to drink like IPAs were very popular because people

were just really I don't know we're in the IPA era so we just drink IPAs and now so many of those consumers have shifted to seltzers because they're just sort of on the same thing of like i drink what's kind of what of the moment right and now i think that they're really trying to hit them with the healthy right i like a real hoppy seltzer you know one that just really actually a japanese drink called hoppy with no alcohol and like it's a

you add like shochu to it when you eat like an old like an old man like yakitori or like izakaya type place that sounds sick I mean

I'm all for seltzers even in a bottle as long as they put a little marble at the top and you can play with it I'm an actor

yeah oh man but yeah let us know if you're still on that seltzer train you know because i definitely saw i saw the wave die pretty quickly like in my friend group yeah i don't know because i don't know i feel like the the kids who are raised on soda you know what i mean i think seltzer has a strong influence on them oh yeah yeah yeah so i feel like they'll stick around for a while at least comfortably um but i wonder what's going to be the next thing after that like do you guys ever see like gin coming back or something like i don't think so right let's talk about the noid real quick i don't know if you guys might were you too young to have avoided to remember the Noid?

You did. Congratulations. That was the goal. I had that the Nintendo game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So his whole deal was Domino's spokes mascot that would he was an antagonist. So it wasn't.

There's no Ronald McDonald here, more Hamburglar than Ronald McDonald. He would try and disrupt delivery of pizza when like pizza delivery was a new concept. Yeah. And the thing they were trying to, this is kind of amazing, the thing they were trying to like communicate to people

is that your pizza, like Domino's was the only place that could avoid like this character who ruined pizza deliveries and like one one of the problems that people kept having with pizza delivery is the pizza would arrive smelling like smoke uh which is so fucking gross like ciggy smoke yeah cold and smelling like cigarette smoke because like people would just you know the delivery person would just be hacking butts on the way over right uh taking his sweet ass time also uh i always bring this up anytime early pizza deliveries mentioned but the movie et they don't understand how pizza delivery works yet and they give him money to go to the end of his

driveway and tell him to get them a pizza with lots of uh pepperonis on it so when they wrote that movie they thought pizza delivery was someone driving around with an oven in their car and like just had all the ice cream man yeah they just thought they had all the pizzas in the car and like you went out and told them what what was on the thing i'm just imagining like an italian man like driving a car and also checking his pizzas at the same time yeah and like the car is very like poorly built and cumbersome so like if he takes a corner too hard, it'll just flip over. So he's like, oh, no! It has to be that whimsical. And then E.T. comes out. It's like one with a lot of... Wait, they were asking E.T. to get the pizza?

No. Who got the pizza? Drew Barrymore? No, it was like the teenage, the older brother's friends. Oh, got it. Who I picture as still being older than me, even though I think they're like 13. Right.

And then they're telling Elliot because he's like the... They're playing D&D which I think was also kind of groundbreaking. Damn, I haven't watched that movie with adult eyes since ever. I think the last time I watched it I was in high school.

I learned about pizza delivery from movies too and i learned that you could deliver a pizza to a sewer in new york yeah they'll slide it right under yeah you're straight into the storm drain right or were they getting a manhole cover i think it was a manhole because then he had to get like change through like a grate or something so it was it was like a great yeah has anyone ever tried to make a pizza that replicated just the even the consistency of the pizza from the teenage mutant ninja turtles people have tried the cartoon sloppy yeah the cartoon it was like slow wet and like it would like stick to your mouth yeah from like uh all dogs go to heaven style animation pizza yeah um yeah uh i

think tucker cheese um got kind of close yeah um but not quite yeah it's like if if your pizza cheese was all burrata it's like so wet and like right and the crust was just like a dish sponge yeah the goofy movie you remember the cheese in the goofy movie yeah dude yeah talk about how we started our experience that's how we started our pandemic was uh a rewatch of the goofy movie uh-oh uh so anyways dominoes is trying to bring the noid back if you've never seen uh the noid it's like he's wearing like red pajamas with like weird floppy bunny ears on top and so so they have a new commercial with Noid disrupting a self-driving Domino's delivery truck

because they want to be whimsical about the fact that there are robots rolling down the street replacing people's jobs. Yeah. And he's also a mini boss in a Crash Bandicoot mobile game. What, did he just get out of jail or something? Yeah, right? He's like, I'm home, y'all!

Crash, man, let's collab on a fucking game. Dominoes, man, I've paid my debt to society. Come out of retirement. We eatin'. Also, I was surprised to learn that JM wrote this story for us, the way shout out to jm

crushing it today but he uh pointed out that the noid and the california raisins which were both like terrifying but like somehow just uh zeitgeist defining uh creations were both made by the same claymation artist will vinton genius truly a genius the reason that uh the noid went away and that there was also a saturday morning cartoon called the noids uh that they almost dropped on the world that was just going to be a pizza commercial uh disguised as children's entertainment but the reason the noid went away uh because in 1989, a man with a mental health condition who happened to be named Kenneth Noid took two employees hostage at an Atlanta Domino's and believed that the company was basically antagonizing him with the character, the Noid, and owed him money. And his demands also included a private plane to Mexico and an extravaganza pizza. So he's still brand loyal. Yeah. So eventually

the hostages were able to escape and he surrendered and was found not guilty by reasons of insanity. But like that was it. They were just like, it became like front page news because it was such a strange

so he claimed noiditis yeah he claimed noiditis uh and the headlines from the time like just reading can imagine how insensitive they are yeah the la times uh one of the greats to ever do it pizza workers can't avoid noid. Held hostage five hours. The fact that that's how they really wrote that shit is wild. But yeah, so Jan was also pointing out that this is part of a

overall renaissance of dumb corporate mascots. Apparently the generation like millennials for some reason have like affinity for them 79 of american adults enjoy seeing brands use mascots so we can expect to see old mascots because i feel like i love so many gen z kids like rock old promo shirts that have like old like old marketing shit is kind of like the the vibe for a lot of younger people so i can see how bringing these like are kind of resonating on that i mean

honestly like we had so many mascots back in the 90s i mean like in the 2000s we only had carfox and like the general from subway yeah exactly yeah in the 90s we had everything we had freaking like busby we had um everything we had the hawaiian punch there was like that oh he's older right dude with the wavy hair the drawing for the sprite uh thing there was the fucking coca-cola bears you know seven up dot yeah uh i mean even like i wonder if they're going to bring back Ronald McDonald as I call him and his whole

cast of characters. They will eventually. Make Gromit the face of McDonald's. Clowns have like... I thought they were just going to bring Wallace and Gromit over. I was like, you don't have to. out of the box thinking but i like it uh i yeah because i think children generally don't like when i was a kid i found clowns terrifying my my grandmother collected clowns

also did not like me my grandmother did that too my great-grandmother yeah it was like your coulrophobia yeah and now my kids like just are agnostic they're just like i don't what the fuck is that why does that person have shit all over their face what's wrong with that guy's face a lot of shit on his face with your nose go to the doctor sloppy ass makeup man there's that sad clown in a Toy Story 3 and they're just like kind of just confused as to like what is what his deal is they're like wait why is he not smiling why is it

okay whatever why does he look like that so I yeah I think it's time to replace Ronald with grommet yeah or Sean the sheep one of the two. Call that Ronald and Gromit. Alright, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review

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