The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 178 (Best of 6/1/21-6/4/21)

Episode Date: June 6, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:43 I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist
Starting point is 00:02:30 uh miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again by a correspondent a stand-up comedian who you know as the host and head writer of the series Newsbroke, the MSNBC special Red, White, and Who, correspondent on Nat Geo's Explorer and as a regular commentator on Young Turks Network, the Bitchuation Room podcast. She's been on Love It or Leave It and is just a very funny comedian. Francesca Fiorentini!
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah. Don't interrupt my intro, Miles. And this is part two of a... Francesca Fiorentini, hi. Hi, Francesca Fiorentini. Francesca Fiorentini, how are you? Oh, I'm good. Yeah, this is a little bit of a part two
Starting point is 00:03:19 because my fiance was on yesterday. Matt Leib, yeah. Matt Leib. And I know he told a lot of... Just put out all the dirty laundry. because my fiance was on yesterday. Matt Leave. Matt Leave. And I know he told a lot of, just put out all the dirty laundry of our perfect engagement. Yeah. And I'm not going to go back and choreograph it,
Starting point is 00:03:37 re-choreograph it correctly. Right. And hire a photographer. So I'm going to need some reshoots, a little extra budget for the reshoots on this one. This time you're going to ask that he not propose to you with a blue raspberry ring pop. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:03:55 I really wish he had it because it would have been far less expensive. He sounded so stressed yesterday. Oh, damn. Man, I got to figure out what to do with this thing. Here's the thing. When you buy a ring, first of all, don't consult Sex and the City because I know he did that. Like 15 years later.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And then number two, don't ask my brother. Don't ask the only man you know of my family. My brother wraps Christmas gifts in newspaper still. Like at the age of 36. Or 40. He's 40 now. Like this is the kind of person. He was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Right. That was good. Imagine the jeweler. Imagine the jeweler just like the door opens and you see Matt Lieb's face just like all dumb and in love. And you're just like, yes. Oh, buddy. Did your brother at least wrap it in the comics section? Yeah, I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Of course. Tasteful. It's not like, yeah. It's not like the international news, you know, like drought. I remember like one of the first birthdays where my like you know because of heteronormacy my mom was wrapping the gifts when i'll go to a birthday party like you know like okay take your gift this is the gift for the party yeah my mom was out of town once and my dad had to wrap a gift and he did it in the in the funnies you know the comics the newspaper and i was so
Starting point is 00:05:21 bummed out my yo this looks like trash dad this is newspaper he's like it's the funnies man at least it's not like auto trading section or whatever and i was low i was just so mortified at like seven years old pulling up to pistol pete's uh pizza place with this janky ass gift but anyway was it for a child yeah it was for another kid oh i thought you meant it was for pistol pete marav. I thought you were at his birthday party. It was like a Chuck E. Cheese type place we had out here. Right. Pistol Pete? Yeah. Where did you grow up?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Arkansas? No. What? LA. The Valley. Oh. Yeah. That's where I'm from.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. My favorite place. Simi Valley? Shotgun Shones. No. Because that sounds like some- San Fernando Valley. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Okay. Pistol Pete's- LA's a mess. Okay. And a place that was a kid's restaurant in the early 90s, you know, I wasn't expecting anything remotely close to relevant or culturally sensitive. I really want kids to understand the kinds of birthday parties and the janky ass places that we had our birthday parties, you know, like Rocky and Bullwinkle's, like the animatronic, like how scary and haunting, yet somehow we loved it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Right. At least I love Rocky and Bullwinkle's. Wait, where's Rocky and Bullwinkle's? It was up in the Bay Area. It doesn't exist anymore. I don't know. I think some of them got canceled. I don't know who.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You know how it is with these pizza places. Right. No, I meant like Rocky or Bullwinkle. I don't know. I think some of them got canceled. I don't know who. You know how it is with these pizza places. Right. No, I meant like Rocky or Bolt Winkle. I don't know. I think Bolt Winkle did some shady shit. Matt, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, absolutely. Here's one. How to sell a brand new engagement ring. Here's one. How to sell a brand new engagement ring. That's that's in there. Now, that sounds confusing because you're like, but Matt.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Right. You just said you were engaged. Well, I am. She said yes to me. She said no to the ring. And yeah. So I bought a real, real bad ring. Really? Yes. This is 100 real i love hearing someone say all right the engagement well dude i bought a really bad ring oh yeah what happened okay so she sent me like i don't know a couple months ago she sent me a picture of a ring she thought was cute and so i was like looking to i wanted to buy that ring because I have no visual eye. I don't know what looks good. Okay. Like we watched Sex and the City once and like Aiden bought Carrie a pear-shaped engagement ring.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And like a parent and all of the girls sitting around like Samantha and Charlotte and all them were just like, oh, pear-shaped. I had no idea pear-shaped was bad. So I knew not to get a pear-shaped. I knew that much. And then so I went to, first I went to Tiffany's and then that was real expensive. So I went to the jewelry shop across the street from Tiffany's and it was like cheaper. And then I just kept showing them like, what I want is a square and a circle i don't want a diamond like a conflict stone right and so they didn't have exactly what i was looking for so they they made one custom right which turns out when you do that you can't return it uh you can't return it and also you have
Starting point is 00:08:38 to pay up front and also it was kind of created from pictures of better rings and then kind of mashed together. And then so the day of I went in and it's like it's a London blue topaz. I thought it was going to be like a light blue. This is really blue. It's like it looks like a like a Jolly Rancher blue raspberry. Oh, hell yeah. I love. Yeah, which is a delicious flavor.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Right. But it looks really bad on a ring. And so I bought that. And then as soon as I got it, I had a panic attack because I knew it was the opposite of what she wanted. I thought it was going to be small, but because it's blue topaz and it's like kind of a cheap semi-precious stone it was real big like it looks like a 70 year old like florida jewish lady jewelry and and yeah so i ended up is that gang if you're looking for a ring hit matt up yeah you're looking for a beautiful blue topaz ring that's not the heart of the sea from titanic it does it's like that but it's like
Starting point is 00:09:47 you know it's bluer somehow right right and yeah and it's not a conflict stone although it became one when she saw it and she she definitely did not she did not like it but we're still in love you had a sense you had a sense going in it's not like you were like, and I have nailed this, my lady. Yeah. Oh, I knew as soon as I got it, I fucked up. And what I didn't know. It's not from Tiffany's. It's from Tiff's.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, from Tiff's. Yo, Tiff. Yeah. Yo, hey, Tiff. Can you make me a ring for way too much money? Sure. Send me a photo, hon. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah i'll mash
Starting point is 00:10:25 them together in photoshop and i'll get you something approximating something i would like it's a beautiful ring if you like you know if you like something kind of gaudy but if if you don't still buy it from me yeah uh please someone buy the ring so we got another ring uh that that uh she loves that's oh great coming in the mail but uh yeah i got this this other one though if anyone it's really hard to sell dude yeah yeah no one told i wish someone had told me that i wish i had asked that's what i wish more than anything is that I do dilly. Yeah. Do a little do dilly.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Um, but instead I was like, I got this. What's the worst that can happen? Take my, just steal my money. But yeah, do dilly.
Starting point is 00:11:15 We about to get silly. We about to get silly. All that do dilly king of the hilly. Anyways, I'm, uh, yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:11:23 uh, uh, that's the last thing I Googled how to sell and it's brand new never used you know right it's like she wouldn't even put it on no she didn't she was just you looked at it when she went ah oh wow no that's yeah when yes to you but uh sorry i proposed by getting down on one knee and proposing with the box but it wasn't open and then she i waited for her to say yes first and then and then she was like well show me the ring and i was like okay but it's the worst part and then i opened it and i was like you still
Starting point is 00:11:59 marry me and she was like oh not with that ring and then she kissed me and uh yeah and uh we're still in love though you know so it's fine that's good it's all about honesty you know yeah but if anyone has any stock tips um or just like any like way to recoup a few grand just let me know you know i'll sell some drugs i don't give a fuck anymore hey you down to take a few flights to bolivia for me i am down dude i got all right i got a cavernous colon you can shove whatever whatever drugs you need in there dude i will you know i'll help out i'm just trying to help right trying to help trying to help fran yeah man my engagement ring put me in so much debt i was but did you take it yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:12:48 well that's nice yeah that was nice yeah i had she she like specifically picked it out yeah that's smart that's a good way of doing it but then she was still surprised i don't know she must have like put a mental block being like but he'll never actually do it because yeah yeah no she uh well she was surprised too you know yeah yeah she's like you look so gaunt jack when you propose you're like i sold all my blood plasma yeah it's there's something to be said for being a idiot because like i was able to get her to the location where i'd like set up this bar uh which was the first place i ever told her i loved her which is surprisingly an irish bar i was i was pretty drunk uh and i had like set up the
Starting point is 00:13:33 basement of the bar but the way i got her there was being like forgot my fucking credit card at the at a puck fair again she's like okay fine we'll We'll go back there. So you started it with a test of your relationship. Yeah, right. You started it with a possible crisis. Like, I might be an alcoholic. Can you take me to rehab? Surprise. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Passages Malibu. Can you marry me? Hey, we're in Malibu, though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What is something you think is uh overrated i think winter i can can go suck a lemon don't eat it we like if you're in the southern hemisphere i'm sorry but uh we're out of that season and i'm really glad about it it's there's nothing
Starting point is 00:14:18 actually good about it and and we can forget it this this is the best time right now. Yeah. Are you spring? Has spring sprung? Or are you getting into the summer days where you are on the East Coast? Yeah, North Carolina, we're getting real summer. And so it is hot. But I don't know. I grew up with winter outside Chicago. And then I went to college in winter in Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And as soon as I wasn't there, I went to college in winter. Yeah. When it comes to Syracuse, that is winter. It is a geographic location where winter has come and continues to stay. Yeah. Doesn't mess around. Yeah. Did you miss it when you lived in uh los angeles not even a little bit it was amazing i i you just i was like oh you can just not deal with this fantastic right it was an option this whole time just south of us you know it was great right yeah i missed the rhythm a little bit not enough to ever move away from los angeles but i i do enjoy just the discomfort and shittiness of uh the rest of the country has to put up with no uh it does like kind of break up time a little bit
Starting point is 00:15:33 in a way that's true makes long-term memory easier to comprehend but it also breaks up outfits nicely yeah that is the one that is the one thing that I miss. It's like, I totally agree with you, where it's like winter totally can suck a lemon. I'm not with it. I don't want slush in my boots, but I do miss being able to wear a long coat in that fall area right before winter when it's like, ooh, it's nice to bundle up a little bit,
Starting point is 00:15:56 put a scarf on. I miss that. Whereas like, you know, it could be, the most warming up I will do is putting on slightly thicker sweatpants out here in LA and that's it so you know i would love to put a coat on again that just sounds nice yeah people who grew up in la like fetishize winter like miles and danil they they have winter outfits for no reason for absolutely no reason at all yeah like maybe for those three days we travel to the east coast for thanksgiving and that's about it yeah i want i want winter as a
Starting point is 00:16:29 treat for a little bit right i want i want like i want to briefly watch the peanuts go ice skating in a special and then it's cold outside for the two days a minute and then forget it that was enough like yeah oh a little taste. Fun. Yeah. And finally, Blair, what is something that you think is underrated? Okay, guys, I just got to be straight up with you. Chip clips are incredible. Okay? You will not catch my cereal getting stale. No fucking way.
Starting point is 00:17:01 My cereal getting stale? No fucking way. Thank you, God, for this sophisticated ass invention that just brings joy and laser execution into my life. Chip Clips are the silent, subtle assassin of adding overwhelming value while asking for little to no recognition. While asking for little to no recognition. Chip clips are the Scottie Pippen of household kitchenware. She's on fire! What the f- Yes. Wait, cereal?
Starting point is 00:17:37 That totally- Am I fucked up for not realizing that I've never sealed the cereal outside of like the box. That's brilliant. One day I just was walking by in the store and it was like a little thing sticking out in the aisle, you know, and I just grabbed like a whole like a it had like a whole bunch of them on one thing. And from that day on, the amount of just my life improved skyrocketed and it's like i'm putting those chip clips on on frozen this and chips and cereal and it's just incredible it really is like which is it the ones that you it's like the straight bar so it's like a hair clip one or the one that's more like a binder clip because you know there's there's different
Starting point is 00:18:22 bag clipping technologies there are different ones i think of the second one as kind of like elegant. Where I was like oh it's that kind of. It's a binder clip. Like the binder you just pinch it on. Yeah mine is actually not like a binder one. It's more fastened like a clothespin. But just really sleek plastic. And wow it works really good.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah I remember as a kid. I think because the frequency at which I would eat cereal, it wasn't really time for it to get stale. You know, because like it would probably be like a box of cereal probably be done within a week or so. And then I remember like going to kids houses and like, you know, like their parents had like the shit in like the Tupperware. And like they would pour it out of like a tub. And I would always be like, y'all are fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You don't even know what cereal that is you fucking know what the box on the other fucking stupid and then i'm like yeah that shit is way fresher how am i supposed to know what that is if there's not a cartoon i know but that just shows you by the child brain at the time like man this ain't coco crisp can't can't tell without the robbers on it i like the taste of stale food and so sometimes i'll like not clip the chips and then it creates household issues because oh azik will be like you're a little mouse like why are you doing this why are the chips like soft but i kind of like when the chips are soft wow so you like a you you're not you're down with a little bit of stale chip huh and in
Starting point is 00:19:42 fact i love i love a stale chip in a flat soda. I don't know what, like, I should just walk into the ocean. I need to love myself. Some people are just natural contrarians. Yeah. It's true. It's true. If anyone prefers a stale chip, let me know.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Because it truly, like, doesn't bother me at all. I enjoy it. I wonder, man, that could be an interesting, that's like your circular hot dogs is like pre-staled chips by Jamie. Well, yeah, I'll just sell bags of chips that I already opened, had three chips from, and then put back in a cabinet for three weeks. Touch a stale from Jamie Loftus. Just a touch. I have this thing, though, too too where i know people who put their chips in the refrigerator and i don't understand like clipped and in the refrigerator well that
Starting point is 00:20:33 that sort of makes that sort of innovative my mom taught me to keep my coffee in the refrigerator which was something i never considered the beans beans? The ground beans. I don't really fuck with a whole bean myself. Oh, you get the pre-ground. Yeah, I mean, I don't have that much time or ambition for that many steps in my coffee process. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I usually just drink it out of a can. That's how much energy I put into it. But also, shout out to Sam over at Timeless Coffee. He always sends me wonderful coffee that Her Majesty's drinks. Oh my. Beans are like so good. I feel like I'm not worthy of good coffee
Starting point is 00:21:14 because I'm just so used to drinking like Kirkland cold brew. But like when you actually get all these notes, you're like, oh shit. I feel like I'm an ad executive who just said he had an epic weekend or something. Yeah, that's exactly. That's the truth. All right.
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Starting point is 00:25:15 This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And we all got a, I don't know if it was a rude awakening, but I think we've been aware that the Q movement is still out there, still going strong, but had a big weekend last weekend. There was a Texas convention where various speakers, including a congressman and Michael Flynn, just repeated the lies that the Q movement is based on, like the foundational lies that it's stolen. is based on like the foundational lies that it's stolen michael flynn even when when asked like why america hasn't had a myanmar style uprising or coup uh which in case you're not familiar that
Starting point is 00:26:15 means that like protesters are shot journalists are put in prison and a new undemocratically elected government is put in into power by the. He said he thinks that would be great that we should have that. And I think it's easy to dismiss the Q movement as sort of a collection of delusional, you know, narcissists shouting, do your own research as their singular argument for every bizarre belief they've made up, because like that is what it is. But it also I feel like, first of all, Trump is totally on board with this. Maggie Haberman just announced that he's been saying that he fully believes that he will be reinstated as president by August. And that's like where his sort of laser focus on the audits. Just keep moving those goalposts back. Just keep moving it back a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It was it was March for the first storm. And that's August. He's going to be like October. I'm telling you, October. That's going to be the month. But they're leaning into a new thread, which is that America needs to have a M E M R style coup where the military deposes the democratically elected ruler and solves their own. Like,
Starting point is 00:27:35 as like that, that feels significant to me. I know it's easy. Like a lot of people, but, but, and like, especially because like, I feel like in the mainstream media
Starting point is 00:27:46 there's this division where it's like ah the cube movement is silly but it's being led by donald trump who is also leading the republican party like fully the way no like is more powerful has more power in that party than i feel like any individual has ever had in one of the major parties in in like U.S. history. Like he just determines what happens there. Yeah. So I don't know. Less than three years, we're going to have a major presidential election where one of the major parties platform is this is QAnon shit is the steal, and is basically tacitly in approval of an armed uprising. Yeah, and if I remember right, the previous election, like the 2020 official Republican platform,
Starting point is 00:28:35 the platform was just a one-page document stapled to the front of the 2016 platform, and it said, we support Donald J. Trump. They didn't have, like, issues for, I think, the first time in an American election. The major party wasn't like, this is our candidate, and also this is what we believe. They were just like, no, this wonderful strange man,
Starting point is 00:28:57 that's our entire platform. Anyway, this is democracy. That's what we like. Right. And any issues at all that were brought to the table were just to refute them we're gonna be like that's not a thing we don't believe in that climate change we're not you know that's that that's a liberal hoax right there it's just everything is everything is anti you're right there's there's no ground to stand on that's upsetting yeah and i feel like this is because it's been politicized and because Democrats recognize that it's been politicized. passively by the mainstream than like if a congressman and a former you know major military
Starting point is 00:29:48 official were talking about overthrowing the u.s government for any other cause it would be like the end of the news cycle but just because of all the normalization that has happened and because of the fox news advantage that the right has where they you know have all mainstream commentators and mainstream democrats frightened of being attacked that they just this is being treated more passably than it would if any left-wing group like made similar claims it's just because of what has gone on with the republican party and like how the democrats have just kind of been controlled by the right-wing media over the last you know 15 years it's we're now at a point where they're gonna get away with us yeah and i wonder how much of this just springs from most americans don't know anything about myanmar like you can
Starting point is 00:30:44 switch governments in myanmar and it's like. Like you can switch governments in Myanmar. And it's like, well, I want to switch governments, not learning anything more. Great. Right. Yeah. I mean, seems to be working out well. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Are you following Myanmar? Yeah. I mean, it's still a country, right? Yeah. I don't know. I remain really thrilled about the previous election because there won't be a Republican president until January of 2025 at the earliest. And I think they're not processing it very well. It's called The Second Race and Guns in a Fairly Unequal America that really kind of crystallized the conversation around the Second Amendment for me in a way that I hadn't like fully consciously embraced, because I feel like the way the mainstream media treats it,
Starting point is 00:31:41 it's like the Second Amendment conversation, the gun rights advocate conversation. It's just like treated as a coincidence that those people tend to also be the people who get furious when you suggest something as simple as black lives matter. But it's like, yeah, they're just like on the same spectrum, but they're not necessarily like fully connected to one another.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And this new book by historian Carol Anderson looks at both the history of the Second Amendment, like when it was first formed and why it was first formed, but also just sort of the present moment. And the big kind of present tense news story that she looks at is Philando Castile, who was following the NRA guidelines for how to inform an officer you are legally carrying a gun. Like to the T, like it's there's a handbook where they tell you how to do this in the NRA. He did that and was shot and killed by the cop following the letter of the law, and he was killed for it. And this was the perfect opportunity for an organization that is so horny for conflict and to be victimized to create a martyr who they could get behind, and they were completely silent. They wanted no part of backing Philando Castile. Meanwhile, you know, in the 90s,
Starting point is 00:33:08 the Branch Davidians were raided by federal agents and, you know, members of that cult murdered federal agents. The NRA backed them. You know, the Ruby Ridge, same. Militia movements, militia movements uh saying they back people who murder federal agents when they are white and her argument is that this is not an accident the second amendment from the start was designed to arm white people against potential slave uprisings. And, you know, when they were writing the amendments, the southern states didn't think that the federal government would help them fight off a slave revolt with the federal army. And so that's why they created, at least partially why they created this Second Amendment that has the everybody should have guns and everybody should be able to form a militia so that they basically had the backing of the
Starting point is 00:34:11 federal government to form uh their own military um and that was like james madison and all the virginians and shit but then you know they obviously heavily implied in that is that it's only it only applies to white people. And throughout the history of the country, white armed rebellion has been treated with a slap on the wrist like the Whiskey Rebellion, while black armed rebellion or self-defense has been treated with terror and state-sanctioned murder. Or dropping bombs on a whole neighborhood. Yeah, she didn't talk about this in the interview that I listened to, but the details of the Tulsa race massacre, the entire thing kicked off when Black residents of Tulsa showed up at a prison with guns to protect a teenager from a lynch mob and a shot was fired. Nobody knows by who, but the very idea of a black person firing a shot
Starting point is 00:35:14 stirred the mob to the organized and systematic and genocidal violence that they enacted like the next morning. It's so interesting because like you know jim crow was established soon after the end of the civil war i mean the idea of segregation and a two-tiered system you know the failed reconstruction and all that then we have a hundred more years or of jim crow and you wonder why like like our country's so racist why didn't they just amend the second amendment like you would expect them to either rein in or amend or change the second amendment or just eliminate it altogether because oh my god what if black people got weapons you know right just to cover their asses but instead it was like now they'll just let everyone
Starting point is 00:36:03 fight one another and we're not going to stop white mobs and everyone can defend themselves except for if you're black i mean this this book sounds amazing and i'm sure she goes into the black panthers and yes of course yeah yeah totally she goes deep into that and how their whole stated purpose was arming themselves so that they could police the police because, shockingly, the police state-sanctioned murder of Black people goes back throughout history to when the police were founded as slave patrols. And the way that they treated that was by executing their leaders and killing people and arresting people i mean there's so many books like this about so many specific things that just like essentially boil down to like some big american idea with an asterisk next to it that says terms and conditions apply right just so you know like if for to some people and yeah, to even look at like, yeah, to your point, Francesca, like you think if they could take it off the table, well, then God damn, black people won't have guns. We don't have to worry about that shit.
Starting point is 00:37:12 But there's something about the racism in this country that's so short sighted and just reactionary without like really considering it. And then like down the road, like, oh, yeah, what was that about? Oh, wait, that was race. Oh, yeah. Look, it's been so many years now and it's so ingrained in the culture and we're not really interested in, again, parsing through that and understanding the motivations behind having amendments like this or the perceived rights of things like this. But yeah, it's just it's. Yeah. Even liberals, like you're saying, Jack, initially that that, you know, they consider this
Starting point is 00:37:44 untouchable, like, well, you know, and Second Amendment rights people and, you know, and it's just it of seen as that is super untouchable because liberals also play into the idea that our founding fathers were good and that they were not racist and yeah maybe they owned slaves but they were good people and everybody owned slaves and that's but they fucked them yeah exactly but they took care of them but it's like no and it's okay we're just we're given speaking of you guys ask about myths on this show all the time, and, you know, the founding myth that, like, this country is, was founded by good people
Starting point is 00:38:31 and on good terms, it's like, no, we have to, we're told so many myths that uphold that, and it feels, it does feel scary to unravel and begin to unravel those myths that we're told, you know, Pocahontas totally consented
Starting point is 00:38:46 to being john smith's child brat you know that kind of crap that like but it's okay if we can replace it with like new ideas and we can replace it with like better aspirations you know i mean i think you know obama had words the best words uh he really did. And like, I think he began to carve out. And I wish we could have someone who was actually made good on his promises, you know, to carve out this idea that we're still constructing this American dream. And it is why a lot of civil rights organizers and activists call for what they they say. They name a third reconstruction, the second reconstruction being the civil rights movement. The first reconstruction being a failed attempt. But, you know, of equality.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And we still have to strive for that. But and it's OK. We can let go of these old myths. But not if liberals keep on conflating this shit, which is so clearly racist with some kind of religious or foundational, untouchable principle of American-ness that we can't actually reform. Yeah. And I think it's and then I think more people have to begin to see that unwillingness as like an absolute, see where we came from to understand where we need to go. Because if you're already playing with this like obscure, sanitized version, you can never solve a problem. you're like yeah it looks like that one red spot on the bone should go and you're like i wish this were a real x-ray so you could actually see what you're looking at inside my chest where it is specifically what organs it's damaging because this other version of being like yeah this bad we should cut it out isn't going to get to the point it isn't going to create the sort of forward
Starting point is 00:40:39 momentum and progress that we're seeking and yeah it's it's, it's, it is a hard thing and we do need to keep looking at it to your point of saying like, yeah, we don't have to just talk about how fucked up everything is. You can pivot to that and say, yeah, that was the world as it was. And this is the world as it should be. And these are the people who were moving to try and take our country and our society to the world as it should be. And this is what we're still building on. See, we want to build on this momentum rather than like, yeah, thanks, John Adams.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Sick, bro. And then just leaving it there. 100%. Yeah, this argument and this kind of connecting of the Second Amendment to systemic white supremacy, just the anger and vitriol and fear
Starting point is 00:41:23 tied up in the Second Amendment argument and guns rights people never fully made sense to me. It was always I was always picturing when they said, like, they're going to come for our guns and like that. I need my guns to protect my family. They always talk about, like, the government coming for your guns. And it's like, what are you talking about? Like, that's not even a thing that we have in our history. guns and it's like what are you talking about like that's not even a thing that we have in our history but i think when you connect it to the white supremacy the fact that you know we've talked before on this show about the fact that they know white supremacy is a lie like on some
Starting point is 00:41:57 level they know that they know they live on a graveyard of horrific abuses that prop them up to wherever they exist and that black americans have every right to demand retribution and they know that this is this lie that every american has the right to own guns is a massive advantage they have and that's why they're obsessed with stories about how crime-ridden cities are so that they can like justify their fear. Like when you ask people who watch Fox News what they think a city is like, it's it's so outside the bounds of reality. They think it's Oz, that HBO show. Yes, they do.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Like playing out in a Starbucks. That's why. And that's why they're so outraged anytime anyone criticizes police violence. But it's why they are so like there's all that fear, all those lies, all that hatred, like holding the idea of white supremacy in their mind, along with some part of them that has seen that that shit is not true. is not true like they're trying to hold those together and that creates cognitive dissonance it creates anger it creates fear and it just really the the image as i was like kind of listening to her interview with terry gross's substitute teacher i forget like a david davy beyond something there's a terry gross's sub and then like reading up on this book, the thing that kept popping into my head is that suburban St. Louis couple who when Black Lives Matter protesters were walking past their home, they stood on their front lawn holding their guns and like waving them at them, like kind of waving their right to own guns as a privilege in the face of black protesters who would be killed on site for holding guns that openly, like just being like, this is our advantage. Fuck you like that.
Starting point is 00:43:56 That is her whole argument really kind of ties a lot of things together for me. Yeah. And go beyond that. I mean, the entire Trump presidency is an emblem, an homage to white supremacy, to the idea that if you're rich and white enough and a dude, you can get away with anything. Look at January 6th. I always talk about this.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm just like, man, I've marched on Washington many times. I would be murdered. Just how close would I have gotten to breaking a window on the Capitol steps had we been, you know, protesting a war, protesting the International Monetary Fund, protesting police murder. Or DOMA. Or anything. It's just so like when we I feel like as a white person watching the January 6th, like every white person. I don't know. I am half white.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And I so I kind of understand this, but like must have been looking at me like, man, white privilege really is kind of a thing. Like looking at. Right. Because, you know, people of color in this country were like white privilege is absolutely. Look at that. Right. Look at that. Yeah. Yeah. Look at the way there's no accountability for that. A few months later. Absolutely. and so disheartening to witness too as a black person that asian person living in this country and saying like see they can fucking go and do that because they're upset that trump isn't president meanwhile we're looking at real fucked up outcomes for unarmed people and you know it's like everybody knows i'm like no one's foolish enough to come armed to something like that as a person.
Starting point is 00:45:45 The game is just completely different. And the sad thing is, too, like on the on the face of it and history, marginalized people have more of a reason to be like, no, I need these guns, man. Have you seen what they do? Have you seen what they do to us? Have you seen what they do to us? Oh, hell no. And how are you going to how are we going to move forward at all when we're just kind of looking at these small issues? We're not that this is a small issue, but we're not really looking at changing real lived outcomes for people and just thinking like, well, maybe if the guns are gone, that could be something.
Starting point is 00:46:12 No. How about you give people support? How about you give them options? How about you give them upward mobility? Because I'm sure most people would prefer that than to live in a, you know, in a cycle of fear and violence and anger uh and would much rather be in a place of abundance on some level or just to have some relief that's why it's so upsetting thing you know instances like philando castile because you're absolutely right that unarmed black people get gunned down all the time and so what is to why not just be armed they get gunned down by vigilantes um self-proclaimed vigilantes now i'm blanking on his name but the gentleman who was killed
Starting point is 00:46:51 the young kid who was killed last year no right before um george floyd uh ahmed arbery yeah ahmed arbery and former police officers and then most recently recently, another young guy. But it's like every time the conversation, if someone had a gun, the Internet conversation is, oh, but he had a gun. Right. But he had a gun. Yeah. Oh, his hands were up, but he had a gun. Oh, well, then kill him on sight. That's not allowed. That's not allowed. Depending again, terms and conditions apply. Like it's the number one tool for white supremacy is this lie and being able to just enforce this lie within sort of the mainstream culture that you know well really only white people are allowed to have guns like and if somebody who isn't white has a gun the police
Starting point is 00:47:40 will murder them on site like Like that, that's unbelievable. And like the fact that it's not said out loud, like constantly like that, that is the, it's a shocking like dystopian reality that I just feel like people don't say out loud. Asian American gun ownership soaring through the roof. I do believe in gun control except for asian elders i think we should arm asian aunties and uncles with ar-15s that's it they are the only ones police no guns everyone
Starting point is 00:48:15 else no guns but asian aunties and uncles we arm them they patrol yeah and they tell you obviously like how to choose a good watermelon and you know how to stay out how to stay out of the sun very very disciplined on the trigger doesn't bust their gun for anything they're like you know i'm gonna hit you with it real quick first yeah oh no no i'm not gonna it's not loaded i will smack you over the head with this though it's a big ass bat that's who i believe in arming i'm'm like with their little baskets. They can carry them in the little front portion of it. I'm about that. There we go.
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Starting point is 00:52:59 They FOIA'd thousands of his emails from during the pandemic. You know, I think everybody was hoping to find the goods on what was really going on behind the scenes as he was, you know, dismantling the Trump administration from the inside. And the spiciest nugget that's being used as a pull quote is where he said, all is well, despite some crazy people in this world. Oh, shit. Dude. Wow. Out of control control and he just fired that one off right yeah bro so problematic i mean first of all we don't use crazy anymore that is just wildly both misogynistic and it just it's a bigoted phrase unbelievable so this was actually an email response to someone who said they were worried about all
Starting point is 00:53:48 the people who are threatening his life and the lives of his family. So it's hard to even interpret it as being directed at Trump. The email to him was like, I saw some news. Hope it's fake. You're being attacked by some people. Hope you are well under such an irrational situation. He responded, thank you for your kind note. All is well, despite some crazy people in the world. You're being attacked by some people. Hope you're well under such an irrational situation. He responded, thank you for your kind note. All is well despite some crazy people in the world.
Starting point is 00:54:08 So what a fucking door. Okay, what about the next thing? What about the next thing? Come on, there's got to be more than that. Yeah, no, there's more spiciness. Give us the tea. Give us the tea. I know there's tea.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I've heard of tea. So I will say this. The people who, the Q people, have not had a chance to fully digest all of his emails i'm sure they're going to find some secret codes in there oh i'm so excited allows to know what was really going on but that is like that's it man uh he is really he's a professional doctor. Right. Yeah. Not a comedian. Right. He's a guy in a
Starting point is 00:54:49 very tough position where he has people literally trying to murder him while he tries to make sure that as few people as possible die from a global pandemic. Yeah. It's very consistent between what you see in the emails and what you saw in press conferences.
Starting point is 00:55:09 The only difference is that he's he seems like very cautious and like wary of public perception in a way that I could see people being like, oh, he's just all about like the press. And but that is, in fact, like from day one, people one people were like okay so this is how you lead during a global pandemic you have to be steady you have to be understated uh and he saw that the president wasn't doing that and so like i'm guessing that's why he was so careful about you know controlling the image that was put out there about him because he recognized probably that he was the only voice of reason for for the country right yeah it was he was really uh the only rational person who was in the room with a president surrounded by sycophants so i mean you know he's he's trying to be as rational and as
Starting point is 00:56:07 forthcoming as he can be given his current situation and i'm trying some level he's like dude i'm not saying anything in an official email where someone can FOIA this and like reveal anything remotely and what my personal thoughts are outside of my you know position i don't think this like proves that he is like that this is actually how he is it's just when you FOIA a republican or conservative leader it's like lifting up a rock with just thousands of disgusting bugs and like a smushed cat and a bag of drugs and a murder weapon underneath it like with Fauauci you get vaguely dismissive language about people who are threatening the lives of his family right get a fucking life fauci you're such a dork but i'm sure like there are some democrats too that they just they just they're good at their
Starting point is 00:56:57 rock hiding you know what i mean oh yeah in the same way i think we're just like i think with some republicans you don't even need to foIA them because they say everything out loud no yeah you just need to have a camera there whenever they're doing like uh you know one of those like 100 000 a plate dinners for like right the american uh liberty coalition or whatever you know and then they just go like everyone actually liked slavery is this thing on hello is this yeah slavery was fun and you're just like this is being taped dude whoa whoa i thought okay i thought we're all cool here no yeah yeah my bad oh so now you're gonna cancel me for having you know neo-colonial neo-confederate fucking sentiments all right welcome enjoy the comedic stylings of ellie kemper sorry oh all right peter a real one yeah all right so was she was she 19 when she went
Starting point is 00:57:57 weird that yeah she looks like a child i was just i was being unfair i know i saw the headline too and i was like oh shit but then i was like you always have to do the thing i'll be like what the fuck did you do when you were 19 right exactly yeah well i'll tell you what i i i wasn't able to do was win any fucking beauty pageant because i am not an attractive man nor did i ever have a glow i tried yeah i went to one debutante ball and i embarrassed my high school girlfriend because I got so high. I was stinking in there. And this was like uptight.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like, you know, this is like the fucking debutante ball and shit. I tried my best. I smoked with a huge, hefty garbage bag over my torso, and I smoked outside. I did my best. Yeah, I was like, I did my best, babe. You hotboxed a trash bag, and you still got in trouble yeah i'm like you're right i shouldn't have blown the smoke in the bag that was a bad idea didn't think it would stick onto my wool suit i never went to a debutante ball but i i learned everything i needed to from the uh from that borat thing and a couple magazine articles oh yeah right just how bad these dads
Starting point is 00:59:06 are i mean i i how much they want to fuck their daughters oh yeah yeah yeah there's there's a lot of uh kind of like incestual dad energy very a lot of like porn hub title energy right right exactly a lot of butterfly kisses energy is what we call it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's real gross. I only know of debutante balls through like TV and movies, you know, I'm not really. That's why I thought it was like a dance, not like this thing where like I would be the only like or one of three like non-white people there. Yeah. And it's like a cattle call for like single ladies.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Is that it? It's like all the single ladies. This is them. This is the adult version of this child now well right it's like a blah blah blah for uh for southern wasps former slave owners or whatever yeah yeah you know same thing yeah but yeah it's like it does very much feel it feels very gross to uh you know showcase your your hot daughter but but i don't i don't really blame ellie kemper for the founding of it i do just think it's funny because it was like one of those cancellations
Starting point is 01:00:14 online that you're just like yeah sure i'm not even gonna read it yeah fucker i have no reason to hate this person but i was like yeah, yeah, we haven't done her yet. She should be canceled. Not even sure why. Do I want to find out? No. They're going to play this on the Ingram angle tonight. They're like, this is how the liberals talk.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. You see, we haven't done her yet. What do they mean? Did she come out when she was like, yo, that was an L, you know, honestly. I shouldn't have. That was such a bad look. I hope not. I would. Or she's like, that was an l you know honestly i shouldn't that was such a that's a bad look not i i would i would i don't know if she listens to this podcast which i'm sure she does i want to strongly advise her to just pretend none of this ever happened and move on because uh any apology so that's just another news cycle baby that's just gonna keep it going i say just live your life
Starting point is 01:01:06 you know keep being the impossible kimmy schmidt is that what it's called yeah yeah is she impossible no she's unbreakable oh yeah continue being unbreakable and you know do you because uh yeah i am certain that you did not found the kkkw debutante ball right this is the beginning into realizing she's some kind of time traveler yeah dude look at this photo of like the confederacy leaders and their wives it's all ellie kemper she's married to five different stonewall jackson yeah jack nicholson's there you're just like is this the shining what the fuck she was married to general braxton bragg fox news sent their equivalent of a uh you up text to her by uh media critics condemn left-leaning outlets ellie kemper onslaught over ties to racist ball uh so they like put out an opinion piece being like you leave this nice girl alone
Starting point is 01:02:05 yeah yeah i mean ties to a racist ball like i feel like that's like anything anyone's ever like anyone who existed from at any time that you probably participated in something with origins and terrible racism i feel like if you're a white and not even just in the south like if you're just white and lived in a suburb you definitely participated in some sort of clan adjacent event you didn't know that you know you you just thought this was the the annual k k r o q uh weenie roast and you're like every every year we eat hot dogs and Listen to alternative music from the 90s I didn't know the Klan Had anything to do with it you know they did
Starting point is 01:02:49 They did yeah Kevin And Bean yeah big Big Klan Kevin and Bean dude Sluggo from K-Rock I mean come on these guys were Confederate Generals Too there's there's three K's And Striker you know know, the DJ.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I just love K-Rock is secretly KKK Rock. This is for a very specific Los Angeles audience, but it's a great joke. All right. Let's talk about Europeans. I've been thinking about them. Finally. They're such an affectionate people. They kiss on the cheek to say hi.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah. That's basically the question. Like some porno. Right. In America, we're like, what the is this? Oh, yeah. It's so funny when you see Americans meet a European for the first time. And they go, oh, really? Oh, yeah. Well, it's so funny when you see Americans meet a European for the first time, and they go, oh, really?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, they kiss on the cheek, and they're like, are we having sex now? Yeah. Because this was not part of the deal. Or someone has a joke about, I need a cigarette after that. Like, really? You hugged somebody, you fucking creep. But yeah, this whole thing,
Starting point is 01:04:01 in America, we have such a screwed up sense of physical intimacy, especially between bros. like switching to the fist bump, I remember officials in Italy were saying, stay apart today to embrace each other more warmly tomorrow. Because yeah, you want to get in, you want to give kisses and things like that. And this all makes sense.
Starting point is 01:04:36 That's how I greet strangers. Putting our eyes next to each other. That's so funny. As the lockdown looses though, vaccinations increase people are wondering like what to do now in europe like is there an in-between on the way back to full-blown vessels and it seems like everyone's been trying things you know right now in italy they're trying a new thing which is a breast bump now not like across the board but things people have noticed to some have some kind of contact where, quote, two people greeting each other essentially try to touch hearts with their heads turned as far away from each other as possible.
Starting point is 01:05:14 God, I love the the I love the horniness of the modern European. Like they just are just like we have to do skin on skin. Yeah. Like, let me feel that heartbeat. I love that. That sounds great to me. I just like, though, how it looks, though. Like, if you saw people doing that, they're like, yo, do they fucking hate each other?
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Their heads turned as far. You're like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Like, are they about to fight? Like, that's very schoolyard. Is this a weigh-in? Yeah. They're like, what's up, dude? What's up, dawg? What's up? What's up?
Starting point is 01:05:43 What's up? Talking to the dude's shoulder. Talking to his shoulder. What's up, homie? What's up? Yeah to find out you want to find out yeah they're speaking in french though so you're like i think they're in love but either that or they're gonna kill each other are they getting divorced this and but in france they have this is again this is from the daily beast they were saying that they've gone for quote a more elegant bicep bump which minimizes contact and the chance that someone might accidentally forget and plant a fatal smooch so i'm guessing you're doing like a oh oh yeah arm straight like bang yeah uh or or like the side of your arm and the side of their arm like you're leaning in for a
Starting point is 01:06:21 kiss but you don't do the kiss yeah or like what does anyone do like a shoulder to shoulder with your head starting maybe like hey yeah all right like you know what i mean you know i i'm glad that they're trying to like do a life hack for covid you know greetings but uh i mean what about like high fives is that can you hands i think because it looks like what the idiots who would the accents do when they invade their country on tour like on tourism tours yeah that's true like a fucking top gun no fuck that we have yeah we do our shit properly no we're gonna do a chest bump right it sounds awkward as hell but i would say considering that jack and i almost made out when we saw each other for the first time in physical space after a year like i get it you know what i mean like sometimes you need to be like yo we're here dog what's up physical contact is important not just between miles and i but uh as a as a society i we we need that shit and i think that's true if we had more
Starting point is 01:07:18 of a culture of kissing and hugging when we saw each other like maybe we'd have like 50 percent less mass shootings yeah less gun deaths if people just like greeted each other like maybe we'd have like 50 less mass shootings yeah less gun deaths if people just like greeted each other with like affection right yeah or like this like despair pit of masculinity where you're a completely rendered inert like emotionally around other people because you're like i cannot do this i'm yeah i should just go lift weights or i must shake hands and say sup from afar you see like in other countries how affectionate men are with each other and like you immediately see a different sort of quality or level to that like these friendships or these bonds than you do when
Starting point is 01:07:56 like dudes are just like throwing beer cans at a wall or some shit yeah american men have like an internal combustion engine that converts every emotion into anger. Right. And that's what I got. Yeah. I love that. We really are like just so repressed. We're basically a steam engine.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah. Bro. Yeah. You become the little engine that should go to therapy. Yeah. Should go to therapy. So like the other things that they're saying like look we get that people are getting vaccinated and numbers are beginning to stabilize but still
Starting point is 01:08:30 like please exercise a modicum of caution because we're still trying to figure out like all of the nuances of even transmission with vaccinated people and you know knowing what to do especially with the elderly so this one expert said that vaccinated grandparents hug their unvaccinated grandchildren from the back. And he suggests they hold their breath while doing so. I didn't say it like that, Miles. We say it from behind.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I want to make it a little twinkly. The words they used was hit it from behind. From the back. Hold your breath. It stinks so bad. But he said hold your breath again because stinks so bad. But he said, hold your breath, begin, because it's all about
Starting point is 01:09:08 the exhalations. And this one Italian expert strongly warns against what they call the aunt's kiss, which is a full-lipped cheek plant, as they say.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Because again, you're leaving, there could be saliva left. You might be touching that and then touch your mouth or touch your eye or something like that.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Right. You know, it's a little bit tough. And I get it. You know, my heart goes out. But being from two cultures that are famously not very affectionate, I've found a way to navigate through. Yeah, I have no problem, like, not being affectionate when I greet people. I like to hug. That's the most I like to do.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And I'll admit, I am definitely one of those guys who like went to europe and someone greeted me with the the cheek kiss and i spent most of the time like i had a like a meltdown i was just like i don't know where to go and then i just walked away masculinity challenged i've never thought about this yeah shot in your pants yeah yeah there's this other thing though too like because then there's such a culture of predatory men and you know consent culture not right existing here that like even hugging you want to be like is that cool because i get it like there's a five and ten chance that i'm some fucked up evil person no that's true like there's like you know
Starting point is 01:10:23 there is kind of a a middle ground somewhere where it's like even before the pandemic i stopped hugging people as much because i used to just like that was just how i greeted people and then i you know you kind of realize that like well not everybody is like into hugs and i'm not gonna force that on anyone that's why like i think the new thing is like hey i'm a hug are you a hugger yeah i'm a hugger and then you're like all right oh shit i'm not my life you're like all right bring it in come on now yeah but uh you know i would love to be in a culture where we all just made out all the time so that's sick too yeah i mean there's yeah we we've talked before how there's maybe we should do that just start bringing just like bros doing cheek-to-cheek kisses now you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:11:09 yeah and see if we can start a movement yeah see if it'll catch on obviously being like yo or you know if you're vaccinated yeah right just well which is the thing that they're also writing in this article that like there are still people who act in like it's 2019 but it's usually like immediately followed with like or prefaced with like i'm vaccinated yeah yeah yeah bring it on in prove it that's what i say it's your card bro fucker uh but yeah i mean that there's cuddle parties that have like started becoming a thing because we lack the ability to like oh like pre-pandemic right yeah yeah pandemic but like that's uh although i know some people who are like yeah man i've been going to like raves the whole time i actually met somebody at a thing who like got two drinks in and was like
Starting point is 01:11:59 yeah i've been going to like a couple raves like and it was pretty wild but like you know people don't give a fuck died a lot of them died yeah my grandma uh yeah things yeah things were bad but but they want us to be here so here we are we got a party for them i rave for them i rave for them but like back in the day i feel like so much of like mad men culture of people just having like irresponsible workplace affairs and oh partially because they were like drinking at lunchtime oh yeah but also you know like that's how people used to get their uh skin to skin and you know they it's like a human need that we just like don't acknowledge at all yeah i mean but you know the italians also probably cheat a lot too with their secretaries i feel like we we definitely are a culture that like
Starting point is 01:12:53 does not show affection on the outside and then uh like affection is just seen as something god doesn't want you to do at least that's like our culture so it's like no you know if you do that jesus cries so just make sure you do it in secret and uh you know fucking or in europe on vacation or in europe on vacation at a hostel you know right if it happens it happens come on guys just be less uh creepy and misogynistic like men from Europe. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. A whole continent. All right.
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