The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 186 (Best of 7/26/21-7/30/21)

Episode Date: August 1, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:01 thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, Jamie, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the extremely talented digital activist and podcast host of the brilliant podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet, digital activist and podcast host of the brilliant podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet,
Starting point is 00:02:53 which did a special miniseries on disinformation in our modern disinformation age called Disinformed that won a Shorty. And that is especially timely right now as disinformation is killing us, literally. Please welcome Bridget Todd. Oh, I love the air horn introduction. How are you, Bridget? I am doing well. I'm not lucky enough to be in a basement in Wisconsin. I am in a kitchen in Washington, D.C. I am in recovery for a broken ankle, which sucks. But other than that, I am good.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh, no. What happened? I wish it was like a good story. I was on a three-night canoe trip on the Delaware Water Reserve. Okay, that's a good story already. This is a good story. Well, you know, what's funny is that I was like, oh, this is going to be kind of a test of my outdoor skills. And then first night, I was like, so, so overconfident on the river.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, to say this, it was a combination of stormy weather, overconfidence and alcohol. Yeah. I mean, like I, that story is great. Being drunk. That is. like i that story is great being drunk that is in a storm on a like on a canoe trip the last time i was like my life was like suspended by an injury i think it was from like a sneeze because i got sneezed and like threw out my back yeah that's what sucks about getting older it's like yeah you get injured and it's like oh i just like got up too fast or i just like sat down weird and now my back is out i have a hip like i i always thought like knees was like a bad old old person thing but
Starting point is 00:04:31 like my hip is starting to hurt when i after i like go for a run and that that makes you feel real real fucking old man okay i hurt my i hurt my neck comforting my brother on a roller coaster. That was my last day. My brother's 24 years old, but he was real scared. What coaster was it? Do you remember? Yeah, it was at Six Flags New England, and it was the Wicked Cyclone. We went on the most New England roller coaster there was. And it was awesome. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:05:01 New England roller coaster. And it was awesome. It was so good, but I forgot my brother has historically for his entire life been terrified of roller coasters and was kind of going on to appease me. And yeah, he was upset. Roller coasters are so fun. They're so
Starting point is 00:05:18 good. I was like, it's the only... Big coaster head over here. You're a coaster head? I'm starting to be a coaster head. I was when i was a kid and then i just did a bunch of roller coasters recently and they were really fun all right i really uh missed them and didn't realize it yeah same cool marcella we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history the last thing i searched um is the fucking package i'm waiting for like this shit will not update i hate the usps or whoever your package is through not
Starting point is 00:05:53 updating that shit you got the barcode update me is it gonna get here before i leave the town i need to know that's the last thing i'm like that's i went to look at like my my google history and it was like every other thing every other like it opened a new tab every time you, you know, you, oh my God. And it was like literally six of me searching my package. And so just waiting for these sunglasses to show up. That's literally it. That's the only thing on my mind right now is me going to New York for two weeks and I'm so excited. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 They say no. The sunglasses say no. And oh, they're sick. Like on the, on the lenses, they have written N-O. The lenses are an N-N-N-O. Perfect. That's fucking dope. They're the best.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I'm just like dying for them to show up so I can bring that negative attitude to New York. To New York. The attitude that New York deserves. Absolutely. Bringing them to them, you know? Yeah. Reflect it back, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Yeah, exactly. What are you doing in New York? Are you doing any stand-up? Oh, I'm headlining the Bell House July 31st. What? It's Saturday, actually. Yes, it's Saturday. I'll be headlining the Bell House.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I'm so excited. I haven't been to New York since 2019. I haven't performed there since then, and I'm just like so fucking pumped. And would love if the Daily Zeitgeist listeners came. I know some of you hate me, but something tells me the New York listeners fucking love me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 New York listeners definitely fuck with you. Yeah, they definitely fuck with me. We had a show in Brooklyn and the listeners came out and there was definitely like, you know, we had a couple come up on stage. There was definitely like some good energy there. Some good energy that I feel like would go. Wait, what happened when they come on stage there was definitely like some good energy there some good energy that i feel like what happened when they come on stage uh so we just like had a sort of interactive part where they had to take a quiz the show is about the year 2000 or dorks and we we just like to like
Starting point is 00:07:38 insert school as much as possible into anything, so these are people going out, having some drinks and we're like, let's, let's do something school. Like let's do a heads up seven up and then quiz them on it. Oh my God. That's cool though. They loved it. Great live show vibe.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I need absolute silence. We're on a rainy day schedule, New York. Now get in here and do this quiz. That's funny. I think this is kind of like a cliched thing for stand-ups to talk about, but what do you feel like the difference is between L.A. and New York crowds? Well, it's interesting because now New York is so heavily gentrified that you can't really tell the difference anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So sometimes some of the shows can be kind of whack because you get those like overly sensitive gentrifying types that are like, you know, they wear the Black Lives Matter pin, but they, you know, they kick some people out of their homes and they don't even realize that they're part of the problem. You know, that that type of liberal, which is like they're not the best audience to have in comedy. But in the past, like maybe whatever, even like three as soon as three, four years ago, the audiences in New York, they're fucking buck wild. They cannot be offended. They don't give a fuck. And it's the best. And I implore those people, please come to my show on Saturday because y'all are the fucking best, like real deal New Yorkers or people who have lived in New York long enough that they have the mentality of a New Yorker, but not these like newer gentrifiers. They're the fucking worst. And that's how the L.A. comedy
Starting point is 00:09:21 scene is, where it's like people who are too sensitive. You know, the other thing about L.A., people go because they know celebrities are usually at the comedy clubs because they are like not just on stage. But I remember one time Drake was at the comedy store, like watching a comedy show in this big ass room in the main room. And it was a black show, you know, like he went there because he wanted to see good ass black comics do good ass black comedy. And that's just good comedy let me just make sure to clarify that i don't want anybody talking no shit about the way i'd work things but like the second somebody pointed him out that was it for the show everyone just like got up and was trying to see him wanting to take pictures and it was like why why would you mention him he being here like that ruins the show for the comics but it's also like so common and then sometimes like at the laugh factory they get so many celebrities that come
Starting point is 00:10:09 hang out that people are kind of used to it they don't even give a fuck so it goes both ways sometimes but the celebrity in the audience and on stage can be kind of distracting in la but in new york you don't see that like they think i like about new york audiences is they love a grimy comic you know like when they're a good comedy audience they fucking love weirdo shit experimental shit you can put any style of comic on stage and they love it that's not true for la california in general yeah i my favorite kind of stand-up comedy is watching drake watch a stand-up comedy show that's my that's my favorite stand-up experience. Yeah, that seems like you.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It needs to be filtered through Drake. I mean, can you imagine looking at what Drake laughed at? Oh my God, Drake laughed at that joke. That is really funny. You know, the hoes are in full effect. Yeah, so much pressure on Drake to, I don't know, that would feel weird to be watching people. I feel like he likes that shit. I don't know that that would feel weird to be like watching.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I feel like he likes that shit. I feel like he likes that. You guys leave Drake alone. I don't think he wants to be left alone. I think he loves that goofy attention. He's the goofiest. Yeah. I'm picturing myself being like having people watch me and see like whether I am laughing at something. And that's definitely me and Drake have a lot in common.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I'm always shocked when you laugh out loud at something I say. Like when you laugh, I'm just like, oh, my God, I have to look at him laugh because he never laughs. That's what I miss about being in studio. No, you're not. You're not a big laugher. I'm a comedian. I can tell you right now you're not a big laugher. You go like this.
Starting point is 00:11:42 You go like this. You go. That's what you do. There it is. I made him laugh. now you're not a big laugher. You go like this. You go like this. You go, that's what you do. There it is. I made him laugh. But I made him laugh about himself. That's just the narcissism. I don't even think that was that funny. Yeah. You can just say anything about me and it'll get
Starting point is 00:11:55 a big reaction. Jack has a huge dick. Look, you made him laugh. Damn it. You're supposed to say it's funny because it's true, but we all know the truth. Come on. What's something you think is overrated? Billionaires.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Come on, man. I'm sorry. I know you guys have been talking about that. I know. I've had enough. I won't talk about it. I won't talk about it. You leave billionaires alone.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I just wanted to say one thing, one thing about them. Yeah. Because I know you guys, I'm sure on this podcast, you guys have just been fucking talking about billionaires till you want to fucking barf. Never. Never. Never have?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Never heard about them? We wish them the best. We're kind of like the Washington Post here in that we think what Jeff Bezos is doing is really cool. Actually, really, really tight. It's like super fucking tight. Yeah. It's coolness research.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yes, exactly. It's to see how cool it is. And tight yeah it's coolness it's coolness research yes exactly see how cool it is and he said it was cool can a 55 year old man pull off a cowboy hat is is one of the things that he was researching any cooler yeah so anyway i was just i just have been talking a lot about that on um we've been talking a lot about that on cold brew got me like my podcast just because see what i did there well done well done because uh because like i just think that the most outrageous thing is that they keep trying to throw in this like that they are doing research of some sort like they didn't bring any stuff you can see right in the space capsule right there's like nothing in there at all nothing to quote myself they've just made space the vip room of a club yeah yeah that's all it is it's like guess where i'm dancing asshole i bet you're not dancing weightless at one oak or whatever they fucking party at now. I don't know. One Oak.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The Luxor. I like using antique things. Like, you know, I bet you're not weightless at the hottest nightclub in the world at the Luxor in Las Vegas. Nailed it. The top of the Luxor pyramid. Wow. Anyway, so yeah, I just think that the fact that the most outrageous thing to me, even
Starting point is 00:14:02 more outrageous than the cowboy hat, even more outrageous than those fucking $5 spacesuits that they were wearing. And, you know, they're a pure theater. There's no reason. They're just going in a high plane. They're not even going to real space. They don't need to wear a spacesuit. They can wear their street clothes. They might as well just be saying, weee!
Starting point is 00:14:20 The whole time. And just someone pointed out that, you know out that Jeff Bezos saying we're excited to see what we find out. That's not the point. They've never... We've had a space shuttle before. We've had a space shuttle
Starting point is 00:14:37 that took up equipment and stuff. You didn't even bring any equipment. They brought a ball they could throw around. Yes. I just want to highlight the fact that their spaceships are empty. You can see them. even bring any equipment. Nothing. They brought a ball they could throw around. Yes. Confirms no gravity. I just want to highlight the fact that their spaceships are empty. You can see them. We want to find out.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And people pointed out also that high balloons have gone to that part of the atmosphere. There's nothing what we're going to find out. We're going to find out that you're a dick. Yeah. That's all. You and your friends are a bunch of dicks. And Richard branson uses shell companies to avoid fucking taxes that's what we're gonna find out you
Starting point is 00:15:08 yeah yeah cold brew truth bomb yeah yes yes oh yes straight from concentrate that's boring i know billionaires is boring but it's i mean it worked in a in a certain respect because like when you look at I think there was there was a statistic that one morning of Jeff Bezos going to space got as much coverage as climate change got for the entire year. Twenty twenty like one more. Hell yeah. I was traveling. So I mean, it's just like the mainstream media bought it, hook, line, and sinker. Well, they need something. They need something every two minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:49 This model of getting people to click on stuff, there's no way to go. 24 hours of needing new clicks. This just leads to, yeah, stories about what's coming up on the show, like a horse visiting people in the hospital. And also, you know, it's like they need that stuff. That's probably not even a horse. It's probably like news producers in a goddamn suit, a horse suit. Just like we need a story.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's been five minutes since something horrible happened. Are you sure? Are you sure no one's electrocuted themselves in Bulgaria? Because you can use that. People don't care. And that person gets visited by the horse. It's just one. But then just say people in Bulgaria are getting electrocuted.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Make it bigger. There you go. There you go. What is something you think is underrated? King and queen of my last week. And honestly, if I'm being real, my last year, ice packs. Honey, child, darling, if you don't have an ice pack in your freezer at all times ready for you to use for your enjoyment change your life by adding an ice pack bag of peas will
Starting point is 00:16:51 do it you don't gotta go spending for something but you will eventually you'll be like yeah i want that job eat ice pack but start with by just grabbing vegetables you don't want to eat and placing them on your body i'm 40 listen to the old woman talking to you young child in growth in use preventative care is all the rage you're doing it for your beautiful face again do it for your sweet sweet joints you don't need an ice pack always that doesn't mean you shouldn't reach for one what is your pleasure i live in a hot place exactly i just i mean look wear an ice pack occasionally all the cool athletes do it ice Ice packs are cool, y'all. Ice packs are so cool.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Get yourself like a cool ice pack. Like a LeBron ice pack. Does he have one? Jack probably endorses an ice pack. I feel like there's like those hyper ice, you know, there are ones that athletes use that are definitely like on the next level. But yeah. It's like made in a lab somewhere. Like the Theragun and things.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm like, do i need five do i need to spend five hundred dollars for this am i in that kind of condition i'll be like i'll just take the thing from when i order something that was frozen on the internet and i'll just keep those oh those are my ice packs yeah yeah the grocery delivery ice pack uh that's just like a block of that's a free ice pack you just got free ice packs those are ice packs they work test my theory see if it works for you shout out to zeit gang when we had our live show in toronto there was a listener from montreal who brought montreal smoked meats and gave it to us and it gave with all these ice packs he's like i think they should be fine for the flight back like
Starting point is 00:18:19 they're pretty stable they're smoking me and i'm like great i saved those fucking ice packs baby yeah i still i took international ice packs, baby. I took international ice packs. I have them in my freezer. I use them all the time. That's how I ice down my vaccine shot. Oh, yeah. See? I just think we forget if we're achy or headachy or feel shitty that you
Starting point is 00:18:37 actually can do something about it free right now that works right now. There's just like nice relief kind of all around you sometimes. So when the day is long and stressful, an ice pack is underrated. The cheapest air conditioner is a
Starting point is 00:18:53 soaking wet hand towel you wring out and you put two ice packs on it. Or put it on your back. On your straight back and you lay on your stomach. On the tile floor. Baby. Anybody's stuck in a heat wave. You get yourself a little spray bottle and you lay on your stomach. On the tile floor. Baby. Anybody's stuck in a heat wave. You get yourself a little spray bottle. And you just spray your sheets.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You're sleeping only under the top sheet anyway. You just spray that top sheet. It's not wet. It's just sort of like cold. It's not wet really. It's just like damp. Yeah, nobody likes damp. Nobody wants a damp sheet.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Moist sheet, also not great. Spritz. Let's go with Spritz. I was going to recommend three ice packs because you have to cycle them in and out. You do. You have the one that's out and then it gets warm. I just want to knock the domino over.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Right. Yeah. That'll become clear to the ice pack user as it becomes a deeper part of their life. But then I was told that you're actually not supposed to like perpetually have ice on any part of your body like for too long a period of time. So you want to do like you're definitely not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 20 to 30 at most. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're like when you were like, I want to go numb. Yeah. Don't put dry ice on your body. Whenever you're putting your body, your like, I want to go numb. Yeah. Don't put dry ice on your body. Whenever you're putting your body, your body is going to warm up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:09 So it will naturally, you know, 15 or 20 minutes is about the maximum ice can sit on a 98.6 degree object anyway. So you're good. You're all right. I haven't had a haircut since last March. So I'm trying to hang out with the gang and actually look at you and enjoy this digital meeting that we are having together to record this podcast. The bangs are amazing. If I could do another stand-in bit, I am the Addams Family Cousin at stand-in. I couldn't get cast as Cousin It, but I could stand there while they set the cameras. Or you look like a side character in a cartoon about hippies.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Where there's that one character whose hair was so shaggy you never never saw their face yeah yeah but i still saw the mystery yeah dude you want some pot i'm hungry some 90s conservative yuppies like idea of a hippie all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back idea of a hippie. Yeah, exactly. Someone has to cut their hair and you can't even see out of their hair. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Break it.
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Starting point is 00:24:42 your podcasts. HeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Fox News. Let's talk about Fox News. We've been speculating for the past, like last week there was this turn, right? Where suddenly Sean Hannity fucked with the vaccine. Like some of the people on the Fox morning show, we're talking about how the vaccine works,
Starting point is 00:25:09 which was new, you know, like their party line had been like, we're just asking questions here, but who's to say if the vaccine works or not? Like just real, like the same, the same shit you hear from anti-vaxxers.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. It's just a difference of opinion. What you, you guys are getting thought control. That's a good Ben Shapiro. Oh, thanks. the same shit you hear from anti-vaxxers yeah it's just a difference of opinion what you you guys are getting thought control that's a good ben shapiro oh thanks i was trying to do tucker carlson so i thought we were going for charlie kirk hey whoa okay look open to interpretation they share a voice so anyways we were wondering like did somebody threaten them with a lawsuit because that's like what made them change their tune when it came to the big lie and like whether the voting machines had like stolen votes from Trump.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And then, you know, that they were open to that story until the voting machine company was like, hey, we're we're suing you for two billion dollars. And then suddenly they were just like reading statements on air. So we're wondering if that happened with COVID and with vaccinations. We still don't know the answer to that, but we do know that they can be sued. A legal expert for Slate was basically explaining that they're open to a lawsuit if somebody dies from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated after watching Tucker Carlson's show. They can be sued under the common law theory of fraud. So basically, you just have to prove that the defendant made a misstatement of fact, knowing that it was false or with reckless disregard as to whether it was true or false.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Knowing that it was false or with reckless disregard as to whether it was true or false. Okay. So it's like contingent on them being able to prove that Fox News knew it was bullshit when they were saying it? Yeah. Or just didn't do the work to find it out. Like reckless disregard means the defendant did no investigation at all, but just put the statement out there. Got it. Yeah. And I mean, in addition to, you know, being obvious that they like the information is just everywhere and they're supposed to be a journalistic institution. We talked last week about how they have a clear pass that they are using behind the scenes at Fox News that like shows that like you can you can only
Starting point is 00:27:26 work if you have had the vaccine. So they know like they're operating on a day to day basis and in a world where the vaccine works and then coming on the air and saying things like just a list of a couple of the things we have. Tucker Carlson saying that COVID is really about social control and questioning whether the vaccine works since those who are vaccinated are still urged to take precautions. Maybe it doesn't work, and they're simply not telling you that. So, yeah. That man needs to be put through a shredder,
Starting point is 00:28:01 just like an industrial shredder. Very Midwest of you to go Fargo on his ass. Thank you. It's weird. In everyone's backyard here, there's a gigantic shredder. So it's just been on my mind. Right. With a leg hanging out of it. Yeah. In case you sin. Yeah. What is the kind of COVID masking vibe where you guys are? In California, it seems like people have gotten the message. They've also changed the law in Southern California or in L.A. County, saying that you have to wear a mask. Are people still wearing masks in Wisconsin and D.C.? No. As demonstrated by the Bucks game the other night,
Starting point is 00:28:46 no one is wearing a mask. You can't, like, I have seen people choosing to wear masks, like at the gas station and stuff. And unlike the last time I was here, people are no longer making fun of you if you are wearing a mask in public. So I view that as progress. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, I got relentlessly bullied. Jesus Christ. That's so weird because who cares if a stranger is wearing a mask? Who cares? And also, even way before COVID, people who were immunocompromised wore masks. My dad wore masks to travel way before COVID. So who cares? What is it your business if you've got to bully them or have an opinion
Starting point is 00:29:28 about it? What do you care if someone that you don't know in public is wearing a mask? Like, how does it impact your life? It's very bizarre. Yeah. There was like, I remember a guy giving me just a minutes long little song and dance about like, are you going to rob my business? Because bandits wear masks. And I was like, do you want to rob my business? Because bandits wear masks.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And I was like, do you want me to buy a Diet Pepsi here or not? They're like, I don't know what your end game is. I mean, that is one. There's a one of our listeners said that their favorite wing place now prohibits masks because of the risk of robbery, which is there. There's just very it seems like things have turned to the anti-vaxxing and anti-masking people now like going on the offensive, like being like, you can't you you can't stay at our Airbnb if you are vaccinated
Starting point is 00:30:22 and like being aggressively against masks. I think Tucker Carl's another thing where he was like, if you see somebody wearing a mask around your child, you should call the police. So. Sure. Yeah. Responsibly advocating for the misuse of public services. Totally. Very responsible. Yeah. Great. How is D.C.? D.C. is interesting. I will say D.C., like we are by and large a city of people who like just want to follow the rules. We're like, fine, whatever it is, we're supposed to do fine. I do think with the masking, I think people are confused, right? Like I don't D.C. is not a place where people are going to where most people, I should say, are going to be anti-masker for the sake of being anti-masker.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I think that when we got that federal guidance that you didn't have to wear masks indoors if you were vaccinated, I think that that, frankly, I mean, I'm no medical professional, but I think that that probably confused a lot of people. So when you go to Target and stores in my neighborhood in D.C. and Columbia Heights, they still have the sign saying, like, please wear a mask. I don't think that people are trying to poo-poo, you know, that guidance. But I just think the federal guidance or the federal messaging being that, oh, you don't need to wear masks has just confused everybody. So I would say when I go into the grocery store in D.C. now, it's probably half people wearing masks and half people not. I don't think the people who are not wearing masks, I don't think they're trying to be like anti-mask whatever, because that's not really a prevalent thing,
Starting point is 00:31:52 particularly in my area of DC. I just think people are confused and we've got too much conflicting guidance and people don't know what to do. Like we don't really have one unifying message, even though our local guidance still is like, wear a mask inside. I think people are confused. Yeah, no, for sure. I think that's totally fair about the masking. But the vaccine stuff seems pretty, seems like now everybody is being pretty clear about that.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Even Alabama Governor Kay Ivey is saying folks are supposed to have common sense, but it's time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down. You know, she's somebody who ended the state's mask mandate early and has chosen not to spend the state emergency COVID funds on like incentive programs. So like this is definitely another situation where like republicans are coming around on something that like should not have required any convincing but yeah oh yeah and to that point this is the same person who in you know not too long ago was spreading unfounded fears about things like vaccine passports, right? Like, let's not pretend like
Starting point is 00:33:05 Kay Ivey did not spend a good portion of the year politicizing vaccines and, you know, downplaying the need to get them and really spreading irresponsible hysteria, putting her own constituents at risk by spreading unfounded claims about vaccines and how they were going to be administered. And so, you know, I'm happy to see that she's come around to the side of common sense. But instead of blaming her unvaccinated constituents, she may want to look in the mirror and wonder where folks are getting this kind of panic and hysteria from. And what maybe did she do that actually caused that? And, you know, Jack, earlier you were talking about Fox News and you used the word fraud. I think that more and more we need to see people that push nonsense about our public health, about our elections as the fraudsters and the scammers that they are.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Tucker Carlson, he knows that vaccines are safe. If the vaccine guidance from Fox News as an organization to work for is correct, he probably has been vaccinated himself. I saw him doing a whole song and dance about how it was the most offensive question to ask if he was vaccinated. But the bottom line is, people like Tucker Carlson are making money by pushing dangerous lies. And we have a word for that.
Starting point is 00:34:16 It's a scammer. It's a fraudster. And so this is not a debate, a two sides issue. These people are scammers and fraudsters and they're making money off of pushing people dangerous, dangerous anti-science ideas to people that can get people killed. And I really am happy to see people using language like fraud and scam to call out these obvious scammers and fraudsters. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this thing with Kay Ivey is,. I mean, it's not the but it's way too late for her to try to do, you know, like a face turn at this point in the way she's handled this, where there's absolutely I mean, it's ridiculous to expect a public official to take accountability for anything. to like these the reason that people are unvaccinated in her state exists entirely in a
Starting point is 00:35:05 void that has nothing to do with her it's just nothing to do with public policy ridiculous like it's yeah i mean it's the republican ideal of everything is like personal accountability and like personal like and nothing has to do with any sort of group based or like public uh it's such a double like it's like you have to trust republican leadership implicitly or leadership implicitly in general but if you are misguided by leadership it's your fault whatever happens to you like it yeah yeah seems unfair it's probably better that she is doing this than her you know staying on the same path she was on before, but obviously not somebody who belongs in a position making public policy. Yeah. Another thing about COVID, which is interesting,
Starting point is 00:35:52 because, Carl, you're talking about how, you know, you're at Denny's and there was only one person working is this constant sort of screaming about a labor shortage that nobody wants to work because they're getting benefits and they're getting unemployment benefits and they're just loafing around. OK, that's we've all seen the studies that say these people are not just collecting a check and kicking back. Many people are actually taking advantage of this social safety net. of this social safety net. The fact that they could have benefits means they don't have the pressure to take just any old job that's going to screw them over because the pandemic has given many people the perspective of what work should look like or what it means to work or what you deserve to work. And because of that, just this trend of people leaving their jobs has not stopped. Like it's continuing. A lot
Starting point is 00:36:46 of people are just being like, I need to find another job. And again, because they have the ability, the flexibility with these benefits to just say, you know what, you don't need to actually have a job right now. You can take some time to look at what you want to do. That is being categorized as a labor shortage. Yeah, I think it is like a really it's been interesting to kind of watch this develop, too, because I feel like it kind of like unravels a lot of the like bootstrap mentality that most of us are raised with of like, well, you have to like if you don't have a job, even if you hate it, even if you're treated like shit, even if you're not given any benefits and you don't make enough money to live, interpreting that as a personal failing versus a systemic one. And the past year has just laid that all out. If it wasn't something that you had kind of pieced together already, that people are just like, well, no, this is clearly a systemic failure. People are just like, well, no, this is clearly a systemic failure. And there are already I mean, like there are so few social safety nets as it is that it's like, of course, people are going to use this.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Like it's that's what it's fucking for. Yeah. I mean, anybody, you know, who's worked retail server job or whatever, it's it's bad. The money isn't good. And the sort of the constant deferential behavior you have to adopt to the customer is will grind your soul down, especially when people are screaming in your face about nothing. That's not your problem. And you're just there trying to do your job too. And, you know, the, we're seeing like this sort of, there's just two forces, right? There's the business owners who are like, where the fuck are they at? I got my less than $15 an hour I'm offering and they're not coming back because I'm not, I'm not going to change my fucking business model and say, oh, I'm going to, you know what people are asking for a living wage. Well, that starts to cut down
Starting point is 00:38:40 on my profits. And I know for smaller businesses, that's a, that's tricky math too, because sometimes you're already dealing with razor thin margins, which is why I feel like business owners too, should implore the government to have things like universal healthcare, because that's a cost that would be taken off an employer's plate. You know, there's ways that they can also participate in, you know, advocating better for everybody. But, and then on the other side, you have the workers who are just saying like this. We cannot work for sub subsistence wages. I can't go to a place where this one job isn't going to support me. I don't I can't work two and three jobs just to be able to have an apartment that's too small and barely enough food and have nothing to save at the end of the day. And really what this
Starting point is 00:39:26 people are just begging for and screaming for is a real just like just having a reckoning with what we consider like labor, what we consider essential and what that means in terms of what you are paid. Yeah, you know, right. Like if you're if you're working an essential job, you should be able to work one job and live and have benefits that you can like it that it's just it's so obvious. But I really hope that there is like some sort of change that's forced here. And my my fear is that the social safety net will just be scaled back. So people are forced back into jobs. And I really, really, really hope really hope that what workers are you know organizing or just making individual choices to do right now actually does push for better conditions and better money yeah also miles i wanted to you know give you a shout out because you lost your small business studio city shoe buckle company yeah that's yeah it was tough You had raised your damn margins. Shoe buckles aren't look, I,
Starting point is 00:40:27 Carl and Carl's like, it's not going to work, man. Nobody wants shoe buckles. And I was like, what the fuck do you know? Carl, listen,
Starting point is 00:40:33 it's called studio city shoe buckles. It's got S's and C's got alliterative qualities to the name. Nobody, nobody, nobody wears shoe buckles anymore. I don't know. It wasn't fun to work there. I didn't enjoy a second of it.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Well, the problem was you weren't putting in enough hours to get those hour bonuses. I told you that would actually get you to that $15 an hour sort of wage that I promised. And your sales were low. Very easy to get COVID in the shoe buckle industry. Oh, yeah. Especially when you're trying someone on for shoe buckles. You are in coughing trajectory just beneath someone's knees. Just being like, what about this? And they're like, just talking at you. It can be a, an infection vector. And I apologize that we
Starting point is 00:41:14 didn't open, we weren't really open for more than a week, but yes, studio, studio city shoe buckles is no more. Um, and I will be back though. Worry not because this is America and I'll find some way to grift some money to start another business. But yeah, this like essential stuff, it really feels like at a minimum, we could at the very least say if something's essential, that has to be a job that that can be your only job and you can afford to have, you could be a single parent and you could have two kids and you can still put a roof and mud and food and everything. And with your one job, but I think a lot of it, because we've whittled away so many social safety nets since like, you know, the middle of the last century, that things that were like, used to be free, like college became cash grabs when like Ronald
Starting point is 00:42:03 Reagan's like, Hey man, like, you know, like you can kind of start charging people for like UC schools. You know what I mean? And that gave all the other public schools across the country, the idea that, Oh yeah, now we can squeeze people for a little bit of money here. You know, actually, if you cut this part back of, of medical care, you know, they'll pick that up and people won't really notice. And you'll actually make a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:42:22 We've whittled all these things back because Because if you think about it, ask your grandparents if they're still with us or your parents. People had, you could have been a custodian and supported an entire family just being a custodian because there were enough. And had retirement money. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a completely different era now. And now we're looking at things like that and just saying like, oh, essential. That means essentially you're fucked. That's pretty much what it means now.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And I think maybe someone will clap for you as you pass to go to your job where you're not paid enough to live. Yeah. I feel like businesses should be like, hey, if you come through with your like essential worker thing, like you drink for free. with your like essential worker thing, like you drink for free. You know what I mean? Like you eat for free. Like, I feel like, but these are,
Starting point is 00:43:09 these are the, this is the situation we're in. Everybody go outside and bang your pot to eight o'clock. Yeah. Like what? Well, no, I think these people would just rather have like the healthcare paid for and
Starting point is 00:43:21 like adequate childcare. No, no, no. I'm going to bang this pot. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much like fuck so again this realignment or hopefully there'll be some kind of realignment in terms of what we're calling labor these days but you know as things get closer you know unemployment benefits are due to be cut off fairly soon. And that's going to put
Starting point is 00:43:45 about 40 million people under some more pressure. And we'll see what happens then. And, you know, I think a lot of organizations, especially around labor, are talking about like we need real organized labor strikes. Like we really need to be able to organize around that to try and create some pressure and put that on the business owning community and our representatives in government to realize, fuck, like it's it's it's I guess it's that bad. But I don't know, from my perspective as a millionaire in Congress, it's hard to see. All right, well, let's let's pivot off of that and go to a break. And we'll be right back after this to talk about Trump's King Macon Street. King Macon Street.
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Starting point is 00:48:34 to look like that i mean it thankfully they didn't eat so many that it was a health problem i can't imagine like the eight-year-old mind fuck of like getting high for the first time yeah and kids are like my my five-year-old is basically like perma stone like the shit that he says just make like sounds like the other day asked me how his bones move him oh wow the good question some mushrooms or what yeah and but like so i wonder i do wonder though like what a five-year-old on edibles would like they i'm just so mad at the story that they didn't tell us what the like weird behavior was that's true because children's imagination is like the most i mean the most incredible the most inspiring that's why they always tell you when you're an adult just remember
Starting point is 00:49:37 your childhood imagination and try to tap into that because it's like bro yeah imagine being high and mickey starts talking to you and you're just like, I'm fucking hanging out with Mickey Mouse, right? Or whatever. Like Teletubbies. Imagine being high as a child and the Teletubbies come to life in your backyard. That would be fucking sick. Yeah. The first time I got high and I wasn't expecting to get high because I was told that you like the first time you smoke, you don't get high.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And then it's like the second time that you actually. like the first time you smoke you don't get high and then it's like the second time that you actually uh but i took like a a foot long bong rip and then like was like all right and then we'll smoke tomorrow and i'll actually get high and then i went into my dorm room and like the godfather poster on my wall because i was a teenage boy started like the cat literally started moving on my on the poster on my wall how old are you did you say i was 18 oh okay i mean that's still a child technically yeah and i i fucking i freaked out so bad i like made my friend wake up and like tell me that everything was gonna be okay and then he went around i was in a dorm He went around and woke all our friends up and then like brought them into my room to laugh at me.
Starting point is 00:50:49 That's great. We know one time I was at a family party and my nephew, he must have been like, how old are kids when they're teething? Two. Two. Okay. So he was around there. And we, there was like one of those like punch, like drink things, drink dispensers that had like a bunch. So I was like tasting each one with him, like trying to play.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And so he was teething. He was like a grumpy little guy. And my sister was like, you could tell she was just didn't have enough sleep because he was teething. And she had her other daughter too. She's a little older. So she was just overwhelmed. I was like, give me him for the party. I'll take him for the party.
Starting point is 00:51:21 He's mine. So I'm like testing these drinks. I'm drinking them first. So I'm letting him have them. Drinking it, it right and there's four and when i get to the fourth one i pour it and i just let him have it bitch it was alcohol in that motherfucker and then like literally like whatever five ten minutes later he is just so happy just having the best time of his life no toothache i'm i realized it immediately i because he tastes but he was drinking it that was the thing when he sipped it he was like oh this shit is fucking good which alcoholism runs in our family good to know it starts young
Starting point is 00:51:55 and yeah and then i drank it because he was so into it and i was like oh fuck this is alcohol and i didn't want to tell my sister i didn't even tell her i didn't tell her until years passed and um but it was just funny because i and i the only didn't even tell her. I didn't tell her until years passed. But it was just funny. And the only reason I even told her is because I felt so bad because at that party, you could tell. You know, because sometimes when parents, especially mothers, when they can't do something and then someone else just comes in and does it well, it makes them feel terrible. So she was feeling terrible. Like, wow, like I can't get my teething baby to stop crying and soothe him and she just does it she just comes in and does it at a party like she had that look on her face like she wanted to cry
Starting point is 00:52:30 because i had him like laughing and i didn't have the heart to tell her at that time but eventually i told her but um that shit was hella funny though i'll say that because he was a ball of joy he didn't give no fuck about that toothache our grand grandpappy's new. They were like, just run a little rum on their gums and they're going to be fine. Yeah. I tried to justify it that way. Like, it'll be fine. But he definitely drank way too much.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I was like, let me get him a McDonald's cheeseburger. So he just chilled out. I mean, shout out to whoever mixed that punch because if a kid can't taste it, they did a great job. Yeah, it was. And I mean, it was pretty strong. He just didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Grimy ass little boy. But I do wonder like if it sort of like with weed because kids are already like in that mind space. If it like if they suddenly like turn into adults because they're like you're there. It has like some reverse property. I love the idea of a five year old getting high me like 9-11 was an inside job. Yeah, I could see that. No, it wasn't. Stephen, why is he talking like that?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Oh, man, I can just like picture the this whole thing so they like rushed these five kids to the hospital and they they were all fine but but cps was called now all the parents are in prison yeah what do we know the race of these children girl you know the race of these children if it's in the fucking news you know goddamn well what the race of these children are oh that's everything it's fine we wrote a news story about it guess the race let me guess white yeah they were black reading a totally different story it was in i think canada yeah it was okay they're free health care and they're just like, let's take these stoned ass kids to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:54:27 No sweat off our back. Fuck them. I don't know. All right, let's talk about Rick Lax. So you've probably seen, had you guys heard that name before? Rick Lax? No, but it sounds like a really catchy name for a laxative. I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Rick Lax. That's a really catchy name for a laxative. I was going to say. Rick Lex. So he's apparently the king of viral videos on Facebook, which is just not, I haven't been on Facebook, like actually just looking for something to entertain me in probably over a decade. But, you know, he apparently has that market cornered.
Starting point is 00:55:04 People who pay attention on Facebook, like know, he apparently has that market cornered. People who pay attention on Facebook like know his name. So we've we've also seen like these things like table nachos where somebody just like lays a bunch of chips out on a table and like puts cheese on them or table spaghetti where they're always so proud of themselves too. Yeah. So that's what Spaghetti-O pie, which is just Spaghetti-Os dumped into a pie crust and then like the most half-assed garlic bread over the top and then they bake it and they're like, this is, you know, my best yet. And there's, yeah, there's like pride, but there's also like a tinge of like, it feels like porn acting where there's like,
Starting point is 00:55:44 I don't know they they don't quite seem like they're they're uh actually genuinely in this in this moment having this experience and so we had speculated at the time of the the spaghetti video where the person just like pours spaghetti sauce on the table and then puts pasta on top of it and then meatballs with her bare hands with her bare hands it's all happening with bare hands we had speculated like maybe this is a fetish video turns out there's like one guy lacks productions behind all of these videos he's a magician some of the women doing the gross shit with the food are his magician's assistants. And his verified page has 14 million followers.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And he also has 1.4 million followers on a page called Rick Lax Has Fun. It's similar to the ASMR videos where you know there's a fetish but like it's nobody's admitting it nobody's like uh the people who specialize in the videos are not like yeah yeah no people are totally jerking off to this wait is this the same guy that i'm sorry i don't know if i'm jumping the gun here i was trying to read this quickly but is this the same guy no go ahead that makes these videos so that black twitter catches on to them and shits on them and helps them go viral yeah right is this oh is it yeah yeah the because the idea behind them like on top of being like just ridiculous it's like i
Starting point is 00:57:18 think you guys talked a couple days ago about how having extremely divisive opinions on social media is how you garner followers so the idea is hey here's a bunch of like really awful videos and black specifically it is i think it started on black twitter but has definitely migrated over to black instagram when there are videos without seasoning you know you have these have these old companies like um tastemade and a few others buzzfeed food did it for a while too they make these videos and i'd be like there's no seasoning on this and latinx food jumped in too they'll be like this is not how you make an elote like get a life and and learn what you're doing or hire actual people of color bon appetit so anyway all of that happened and then this guy starts making these videos that are beyond the pale.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Like, no one's going to eat this. No one's going to make their counters that, you know, gross and disgusting. And now there's an entire, like, genre of influencer who just watches and reacts to this video. So if you take, like, the YouTube react videos to different, like, you know, they were reacting to trailers and then video games and then streams. Now these guys are reacting to these bad food videos. And listen, it's an industry. It's making money. People are doing things with it.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I'll tell you what, Rick Lax is pissed. Rick Lax is pissed that people are making money off of his videos without him making a cut of it. Welcome to the end, boo! I love that he thinks he discovered a magic trick. And it's like, bro, everybody's been hating on white people not being able to cook forever. You just taped it.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Also, if you didn't figure out how to use your 14 million followers to get advertising dollars, that's on you. I get like 20 emails a day being like, hey, you want to use your social media for dollars? How can we do that with you? Somebody has definitely reached out to you.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You could have reached out to somebody, found a good partnership. SpaghettiOs almost assuredly would have been like, yes, we would like to be mentioned 2 million times. Here's a couple thousand dollars. Thank you for your help. Figure that out, darling. Yeah. I wonder how much, because he's a magician and magicians are kind of good at like
Starting point is 00:59:26 breaking things down to the component like illogical dynamics that make it like entertaining or may make it like trick people i do wonder like he's not he's not saying he's like i'm not a foodie i'm not an expert uh calling the recipes gross. I would object to that. So, I mean, he sounds like a complete fucking idiot. But if he's really off the table, what would you do? But yeah, I mean, the the level of commentary on like white people cooking on top of like whatever fetish it is on top of like i feel like there's just this is a very specific type of internet era content where it like checks three boxes like two of them accidentally and it's just like it becomes a genre because like then he's like, OK, well, so randomly Spaghetti-O-Pie is our biggest hit of February. So we have 10 videos coming out this week.
Starting point is 01:00:34 That's all about like people doing like basically the same shit. This is how I feel about a lot of children's content like a lot of the if you go on youtube like the children's videos that have like 13 billion views are just like the most random strange like kind of dream logic-y weird things that are bad like but they just are accidentally like hitting on something that is like hardwired into the brain right so it's just it's just this weird like scatter shot of like human desires that we're like coming into contact with because the internet is such a weird disturbing place just like call me daddy i would just encourage your listeners to stop hate sharing things like i feel like that's the root of the problem here is that people love to hate share.
Starting point is 01:01:27 You know, like the people love to dunk on somebody. People got to stop doing that shit. That's just such a fucking that's backwards. You know, people that you like and enjoy, you should be supporting them. And, you know, when somebody that you like says something funny or post something funny, you should be sharing that shit as opposed to just being like oh my god look at this stupid fucking video i would never make this how disgusting and then it's like guys you're just perpetuating this shit you know there's i have such mixed feelings about it because on the one hand there's things where i'm like sometimes you can hate something that's bad but good bad you know what i mean uh for me emily in paris is one of those phenomenons where i'm like oh girl this is all this atrocious like how did this get made this is all kinds of wild but
Starting point is 01:02:11 watching it brought such a sense of community and people just being like please don't be emily in paris don't don't be that american when you leave and that could be kind of fun on the other hand there's such a lack of curation i I think just in general, in this era, everyone is just like, just pump out as much as you can. Just go. Is it good? We don't care. We don't have time to care.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Just release it. And hopefully we get some followers. Did it just reach a couple demographics? Great. Next. There's not a lot of time being put into really like crafting masterpiece. Or if it is, it's done with people who already have just an insane amount of money. And, you know, that's not of consequence to them. I wonder if we'll see a backlash from this of
Starting point is 01:02:50 people being like, you know, I would rather have my content just hyper curated. I don't want to be dealing with the shenanigans. I don't want to watch six YouTube videos until I find one that's, you know, really good and is actually talking about the things I'm trying to investigate. I kind of hope so. Because while it's great for creators that there's an opportunity to constantly be pumping things out to fail and succeed and to then build an audience around what is successful, that area of the internet is really fun. And I think it's given a lot of people an opportunity who wouldn't otherwise have had
Starting point is 01:03:22 one. But I also think, you know, there are definitely spaces where curation could be of great value, not just to the people creating, but people trying to access those creations. I mean, I feel like that might be what TikTok is, right? Yeah. Also, I have to correct you. Sorry. It's Emily in Paris. That's the name of the show.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I don't know. It's just driving me crazy. I couldn't hear a word you said after that. I was like, Emily in Betty. That's the name of the show. I don't know. It's just driving me crazy. I couldn't hear a word you said after that. I was like, great. You know, you guys, I feel like the hyper curated,
Starting point is 01:03:54 like single channel. I feel like when you said that, that made me think of tick tock and like the, the way that I, for people who like spent a lot of time on tick tock, like the way that I hear it working on them is like you it takes all decisions out of
Starting point is 01:04:09 it and it's just like a you know hyper intelligence that's good at learning like the videos that you respond to and it just like feeds it to you in a feed right that's the kind of life you live damn
Starting point is 01:04:24 dick you like blondands right done here you go a sea of them don't even worry about the people that created this uh not worth mentioning yeah like all machine learning is definitely influenced by whatever the people choosing to, who like originally created it and like the self-selection of like what the algorithm is being fed in the first place. So not a good thing for sure. TikTok, I'm going to go out on a limb and say,
Starting point is 01:04:56 not great, not awesome. Damn, Jack, you got those crazy opinions on this podcast. Yeah, wild take. Wild take. Wild takes. We're going to put that in a splash that we put on like a get ready for the fire take. Back to back, you and Jack.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I'm blowing on my finger like it's a gun. That's funny. Did you guys see this unvaccinated snow leopard at San Diego Zoo catches COVID-19? Oh my gosh. I just wanted to mention it because it's pretty funny. Who got close enough to the leopard?
Starting point is 01:05:30 What zookeeper has done this? Some anti-science zookeeper? That's what I'm saying. It's rampant. Everyone get vaccinated. It's all about instinct. It's all about instinct. Jack, make that character.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Zoos, animals, all about instinct, baby. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk to you Monday.
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