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And yep, we once again get a metaphor that we'd all call hacky if we saw it in a movie. But it's happening in reality. So it's just like another news story. And, you know, this was getting coverage for a couple of reasons. A guy died, which is a shame. He's a wealthy art collector. And his name was Todd Brassner. And he was on a floor that didn't have fire sprinklers,

which you would think would be mandatory these days. And apparently it is in any new building that was built after the 90s, late 90s, in New York City after a couple of fires killed a bunch of people. They were like, OK, we will make sprinklers. We might need those sprinklers. But landlords and developers like Donald Trump and including Donald Trump lobbied against sprinklers as being unnecessary and which translates to expensive for him. And he, through spending and hassling,

got them to make it so that it was only required to add sprinklers into buildings that were built going forward. We should never totally normalize the fact that we have this cartoon landlord villain as the president. It's easy to just forget that this dude is a bad guy. Mr. Cutting Corners.

Basically, this guy, this 67-year-old dude who lost his life, a lot of the news is kind of portraying it too of that there is added tragedy because this man was trying to move out of Trump Tower. But because it was in Trump Tower, nobody wanted to buy it or whatever, which is, yeah, sure. I get that. It must have sucked to have been stuck with that building, especially like as security increased.

And it's like I'm walking into a weird building now. People are like demonstrating or there's like armed police or whatever. people like uh demonstrating or there's like armed police or whatever uh but you know at the end it's crazy to know that this is all born out of the idea of it just being simply the money wasn't there or he didn't want to spend the money uh trump didn't want to to make the building safe just totally fucking avoidable i don't know it's weird it's one of those stories too we were talking before it's like yes this is a fucked up story and then it's also one of those trump stories where you go yeah of course a fucking person who is living in trump tower died from in a completely avoidable way simply because of this person's greed as a developer of not wanting to build in these added security measures right so and i think that sort of mentality is obviously bleeding into

every level of our government now i just hope that people can start to realize how government policy actually does affect your life and can kill you. And I feel like that's something that most of the country is like, oh, we let them lawmakers go in there and clap the gavels and write the papers and it don't affect us. And it's like, no, it does.

It can kill you. Like decisions made by the government can and will kill you. Yeah, well, that's again why you know the people talk about oh the regulations is a bad word right this is the kind of shit right that you need basic safety standards so someone has at least some form of fire you know some some kind of sprinkler system to combat the fire that breaks out right yeah these are the sorts of things that uh you know government regulations are a bad word.

They're just it's not a cool thing to talk about in most of America, but also especially in like Fox News America and Trump America. They think that all government is bad. So if the government is doing it, it should not be happening. And the people who are applauding regulations being taken down are assholes who are like, see, now we don't have to spend that extra 70K to put in the sprinkler system and we can save that, blah, blah, blah. Right. And privatize it. Yeah.

That's the kind of fucking regulation. Like, come on, man. And that would have made jobs for y'all. Yeah, exactly. Private firemen. Right. Oh, right. Private firemen.

Only the rich can have their fires put out. I mean, think about how much money you can make. Right. But yeah, in addition to that sort of thinking bleeding into our national government now, it apparently, you know, he didn't just make it so that Trump Tower didn't need to add sprinklers. It's all residential buildings in New York City. And, you know, some experts were talking about on yesterday's Sunday shows that the buildings in New York are basically fire traps because of this legislation, because they don't have sprinklers and fire engine ladders only go to something like the 19th floor.

And that's Jesus. That's nothing in New York. You know, most buildings are above 19 stories tall. So, yeah, it's it's not great. It's a good thing he was discriminating against the blacks. We won yeah, it's not great. Well, damn. It's a good thing he was discriminating against the blacks. We won't be dying in those fires. There you go.

We couldn't move it. Right. So we do want to talk about a study that just came out that male students vastly overestimate their intelligence when compared to female students. No. Shocker. Which is not the most counterintuitive thing you've ever heard. Bro, but what if you are just smarter than everybody?

Right. So a male student with an average grade, for example, was predicted to see himself as smarter than 66% of his class, whereas a female student with the same grade was expected to see herself as smarter than only 54% of his class whereas a female student with the same grade was expected to see herself as smarter than only 54 percent of her class so we all think we're smarter than we actually are but uh men it's vastly overestimated i don't know do you ever grow up in asian house because i'll get a's and my mom was like you think you're smart right you get a 99 they'd be like what happened

to the one exactly so in my it's funny because I have an almost different relationship with grades where I was always operating from a place of lack. Right. Where I was like, I have to prove myself. I'm not smarter than everybody. Right. So, yes, thank you, everybody. I'm the most woke man on earth. But I do think that, yeah, we have talked about the Dunning-Kruger effect and the fact that people who don't know all that much are the ones who are most likely to overestimate themselves. And people who know a lot are the most likely to accurately or underestimate themselves. But I just think it's interesting that men, so there's this huge gap

in the stems. More men get STEM degrees, science, technology, engineering, engineering and mathematics, and more men get STEM degrees, more men go into STEM fields. Yes. So women fill 47 percent of all U.S. jobs. This is in 2015, but they hold only 24 percent of STEM jobs because there's just this gap. And we saw this when there was that Googler who got fired from Google for posting a letter where he was like, men are just better at engineering than women. Like, what can I say? This is one of those things that people actually believe. And you'd be surprised how many men actually believe like men men just have better minds for math. Wait, really? The president of fucking Harvard

basically said something to that effect not too long ago. You don't deserve to be anywhere near Harvard, bro. Right. He got in a lot of trouble for it, but he was like, we have to acknowledge that there are differences between male and female minds. And black people have extra muscle in their hamstrings,

which is why they run faster. That's why they're jumping so high in basketball. Yeah, exactly. That's the slippery slope, bruh. Oh, God. And I've just witnessed this personally, my wife being a doctor. It's just crazy, the unspoken sexism in that field.

I've gone into doctor's appointments where the doctor will talk to me about her when she has something wrong with her. Wait, why are you taking her to her doctor's appointment? I was just with her. Oh, for the child, when you were having a child? No, no, no.

She was there at the doctor's appointment. I was just with her. It was like a weird freak accident. That's nice! What the fuck are you doing? In my mind, I'm painting it. Miles gets all real. In my mind, I'm painting the super misogynistic, problematic husband. He's like, okay, you want to go to the doctor?

Okay, I'm going to go with you. No, I went with her. She wasn't feeling good. I know. I don't know about healthy relationships as we've already seen. What are you doing, a spinal? The doctor knew that- He going to tell you to leave me.

She was a doctor, and yet still told me the diagnosis. Right, right, right. Like you're buying a fucking car or something. Right, yeah, exactly. The thing with the dually is, man, the horsepower you're getting out of this thing now, lady. While your wife is there. I know, I know. I might as well be speaking Chinese to you, little lady, but hey, you get it, right, sir?

This Cummins turbo diesel. Right, exactly. You're going to want that. There was a scene in Mad Men where they talked to January Jones' husband about her cancer diagnosis while she's just sitting there. And that shit still

happens. And it just seems like it's more embedded in people's minds than we realize. And it's just so predictable that undergraduate men would just have this sort of inbuilt overconfidence. Right, and are they saying that's sort of contributing to an atmosphere where women are probably at a sort of fork

in the road to choose a STEM career, a STEM academic path, and they're just kind of like, fuck it, if I'm dealing with this shit, then no. Well, so what they're saying, and this has been true in my experience, is that women internalize these sort of beliefs like women are less likely to raise their hands in the class because I think they are saying that the instructors are more likely to be men. But even if it's women, it's a long-term thing. It's a thing where even women who come up in the STEM field are indoctrinated with this idea that men run shit. Well, that's true. The tech world is still the last sort of, well, not the last frontier, but one of the remaining frontiers. It's a real boys club.

It's super fucked up, lopsided. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think that studies like this, it's great to shed light, but I feel like sometimes in the way that we strive for equality of the sexes or even the races is might not be like the most effective. It's weird to try to tell people who are arrogant to like come down and realize like, oh, you're not that great. When I think it might be easier for us to just all come up to that place. Like I remember when I was a kid, my grandma used to tell me that only black people were good at things. And I believed this for so long, actually until I heard

Christina Aguilera sing because I was like, great, is she not black? But what that gave me was this. And she was like, she cheating. Right? She probably is. But what that gave me

was an ethnocentricity that gave me confidence, especially as a darker skinned black woman where I have to deal with the bullshit within my own race. But it made me feel like I'm supposed to be here. I should be taking up space.

I feel like we as women have to get more like, you know, maybe we should be manspreading too. Instead of asking the man to stop spreading, you just move your thighs out a little more too. Like, take up a little more space. Right, right. Well, then I think that's what this article is. You just distill it down to men are fucking dumb

and they think they're smarter than they are. So don't worry. So don't worry. Like, raise your hand. Talk're right. Well, then I think that's what this article is. You just distill it down to men are fucking dumb and they think they're smarter than they are. So don't worry. So don't worry. Like raise your hand. Talk and talk over them. Probably step on their words. Yeah. Seriously. It might be easier than like, hey, guys, could y'all be considerate? Could you be more realistic about

how dumb you are? Yeah. Honest with yourself about your ability, sir. I mean, I think their main takeaway is that they need more women in STEM fields and they need to actually do more structural things to encourage women to go into these fields.

Men make you miserable sometimes in those kinds of male-dominated atmospheres. I did stand-up for forever and it starts to become very taxing on your soul to constantly have to deal with harassment and men talking to you crazy. And it can make you want to leave, for sure. So I can understand why women are like, if I'm already in this expertise, I don't necessarily have to do this with my education. I can still make money and avoid men.

Right. Men in stand-up are specifically just talk down you or like assume that you're not as funny? Oh, yeah, they'll be like, oh, you need to be as funny as you are cute or like crazy shit like that. Yeah, to my face and think they're being nice to me. Is he like a 60s talent agent? Think it's a compliment. Because you remember like stand-up is still one of those fields that goes down mostly in dark, weird bars. Right, right, right.

So it's like it's a rodeo. That's why when shit came out about like Louis C.K. and whoever else, it's like, yeah, they're stand-up guys. Right, right, right. So it's like, it's a rodeo. That's why when shit came out about Louis C.K. and whoever else, it's like, yeah, they're stand-up guys. What do you mean? Every stand-up guy's

showing you their dick. It's the norm. Their office is a murky, dark room. It is, yeah. And the middle of the night. Right. But yeah,

so I completely understand fields that would drive you out of them. Right. Yeah, so it's probably not just the STEM fields either. But I think this is indicative of a broader. Yeah. The tech industry is especially bad, especially for being located in a town that prides itself

on wokeness, San Francisco. Right. And it's, yeah, it's pretty rough up there. Real quick, I did want to touch on the thing that that press conference was supposed to be about, the Syria conflict. Because, so listening to Super Producer Ana Hosniyeh and Shereen Younez's podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous, I have been kind of getting a better feel for what's going on in Syria. been kind of getting a better feel for what's going on in Syria. Uh, and just a couple of things I wanted to share with you guys that helped put, uh, the whole Syrian conflict into perspective. Uh, so something that I'm just learning, and I think a lot of people knew this was that this

all started with the Arab spring and sort of the democratic uprising in the Middle East. And basically, that helped me make sense of the fact that Russia is so on board with the Syrian government side as opposed to the rebels, because Russia is always on the side against democracy, essentially. And because- Of shutting shit down. Right. And because their spring was about like democratic uprising, they are going to support the Syrian government and any other government that is on the side of being authoritarian. Because you don't want your kids getting ideas. Right. And Iran also fits into that rubric. You know, they are not in favor of Western democracies. And then there's also the fact that, so Syria is mostly Sunni and they are run by a dictator who's secular. But, you know, Iran is mostly Shia.

And so there's that kind of inherent conflict. Built-in conflict, yeah. Right. And that helped me make sense of, I guess, just where we are in the conflict. secular, like I said. So America is supposed to be supporting the people and the rebellion, but they haven't totally full-throatedly supported them. And Saudi Arabia, who is also Sunni, has been sort of standing on the sidelines a little bit, not really supporting because they're taking America's lead. So that also put the rise of Mohammed bin Salman in context, because like why he's important, because he is sort of on the American side, if you're looking at things like around this conflict. So yeah, that helped make sense of it. To me, we have a piece from one of our writers that we won't have time to get into about how the military sort of freaked out about Russia's cyber powers because they're apparently just like taking drones out of the sky with cyber attacks.

Yeah, their drone jamming capability is pretty good. And there are people in the U.S. military like, yeah, how did they fucking figure that out? Right. Because apparently the drones that the U.S. is using have built in sort of like anti-scrambling mechanisms and they're running on different, I guess, frequencies. Look, I'm not a fucking dronist, dronologist. But they have a lot of built in countermeasures to sort of counteract these kinds of things and they're like, somehow Russia cracked it.

Right. But not the armed drones. Like the Predator and Reaper drones that have guns that are armed, those have not been scrammed. Jammed, yeah. Like they haven't been able to jam those. Right. Can I say something about the whole thing? Yes.

Which is that I think that listening to you break down sort of an overview, I think highlights one of my big issues with the whole Syria conversation, which is that I think your average American person doesn't know the ins and outs of the situation. Like certainly I'm not an expert on Syria. And it's one of those things that I feel like people don't really know that much about. So they're just sort of the situation. Certainly, I am not an expert on Syria. And it's one of those things that I feel like people don't really know that much about. So they're just sort of tuning out. And it's very, I mean, like,

we could be doing, you know, like scaling up military intervention in Syria. And I think people are like, oh, I don't really know. And I'm going to know, like, what? Where is that? And I think that people are not paying attention to it because it projects as like a very complex issue.

And it is. And it worries me that it's not a attention to it because it projects as a very complex issue, and it is. And it worries me that it's not a conversation that average folks are having because who is that going to impact? The American people, right? If they're sending troops over, that's going to be us. And I think that we're not even really checked in on that conversation. Yeah, what the stakeholders want in this situation, right? Because I think on one hand, with the US retreating, that has emboldened, like clearly this triumvirate of Russia, Turkey, and Iran to kind of come together and be like, oh, it looks like the US is taking a backseat. So we can dictate sort of what the future is

going to be in this region. And that also is kind of weird because the US doesn't want to draw red lines and then not follow up on them because then that makes Trump look toothless. Right. And he's up against that too. There's so many, it's like, he's got his back against the wall. Like, you know, like, and also, you know, he, he wanted to pull out, but then clearly there's- And he said that, which was not a good idea.

John McCain was like, yo, this is why you don't say we're planning to pull out before you do it. Right. Exactly. And then look what happens. And, you know, Israel has been like, apparently over the weekend, you know, Israel struck an airbase and no one still quite knows why. Like when they have had airstrikes in Syria, it's typically to like intercept shipments of like Iranian weapons to Hezbollah. And that's why they've had. But people are still kind of confused and they haven't said so.

There's so many moving parts. And yes, again, if we do enter another armed conflict like and we actually put boots on the ground like in a really really focused concentrated effort to hit back at assad's military capability and his and his forces that's like not insignificant no and this is like has the feel of like a world war type thing where like all the different sides are sort of aligning and you know everything that that other side stands for you know like you said turkey has traditionally been a u.s ally but now they have a dictator in charge and so they are suddenly you know uh trending toward the side of russia and dictatorships and uh military control right in iran so well because the more and more turkey fucks around

and you know krimits more human rights violations that's usually when the u.s starts to give them static and they're like right you can't do this like come on we have bases there you can't just be violating people's human rights and the more that they do that that's just been you know deteriorating our relationship with turkey and sort of putting them closer into the iran russia party because they're like oh we we kind of like how you move and they're kind of strange bedfellows too. Like historically, Russia and Turkey have been enemies.

But anyway, I think- Sorry. And then Super Producer Anna Hosnia just pointed out that ISIS also entered the fray. Not too long ago. Got the ISIS drop. Not too long ago, completely complicating

an already insanely complicated situation because they're not necessarily on either side, but then- Yeah, they're filling a power vacuum. Right. And I think there are some people, like I think Syrian forces don't necessarily kill ISIS fighters, like they're not actively targeting them. So it's a very complicated situation, but it's one that started making sense to me when I learned the facts that I just tried to share there. So we'll be keeping an eye on that. Trump said that because of this chemical weapon attack over the weekend, there will be a response from America and France coming in the next 24 to

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Testimony is, I don't know if that's the, that seems like a misnomer. Right. Seemed like a in- IRL FAQ for older people about how Facebook works. So that was a thing that happened was, so you could tell that a lot of these elderly Congress people would have these prepared remarks from their younger staffers who had done all the legwork.

And as long as they stuck to those remarks and the first question, they were all good. And then they would just get distracted by something he said and would suddenly be like, wait, now how's that work? Because you said that it's free. And how do you make money then? I like the St. Louis Cardinals page. And I was getting information about the Brewers. Something's not right.

Right. I thought it was weird that he addressed everyone as Senator without their last name. Well. It's like calling everyone Mr. Like a child. Say Mr. That was the other thing we found out yesterday is that he's 5'7". Yeah. I didn't realize he's 5'7".

I didn't either. Interesting. Everyone showed, they're like, look, he's on a booster seat, which is actually, to be fair, common practice because- And also, it's like a back thing. Well, right, but some people, like James Comey wouldn't need the booster seat because he's like 600 feet tall. He's out of frame.

Yeah, he's out of frame. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, if you're 5'7", and also, I know it's crazy because you can clearly tell his PR people are very protective about how he's shot like photographically because I wouldn't have known just based on photographs that he was only 5'7". Yeah, no, I had no idea. How tall would you guess he was? I thought he was like probably 5'9 or 10.

5'10, 5'11. 5'11, but not six foot. Not six foot. We never put him, we never consider him a six footer. After so many meetings, so many celebrities in real life, I never assume anyone is six feet tall. Yeah, right. You always think they are because how shots are framed and things like that.

But then you're like, you're 5'8". Right. But yeah, he's a wee man. And yeah, there were some interesting moments. But for the most part, it did seem like they were just asking him to explain Facebook in a lot of moments. The younger congresspeople took it to him, like Senator Kamala Harris actually had valid questions that were pretty interesting. But some of the issues that were raised was Facebook's involvement in Myanmar, which I knew that people had credited Facebook with spreading some of the hate speech that eventually led to basically genocide.

But I actually heard an expert on Facebook talking about it today. And she was basically saying it's completely inexcusable what they did because people were like, there is all this hate speech being spread right now. And you guys aren't doing anything. Facebook is triumph of the will currently in our country. It is spreading hatred currently actively. And it really brought into focus for me, and this was something that was raised during the conversation, but his fitness to run this company, like the things that made him good at creating this giant product that everybody likes are not the things that will make you good at running a global community. Like he is being expected, like a lot of the things we're asking him to do are things that a servant of people would do. Somebody who's selfless and just

is trying to make everybody's lives as good as possible and somebody who is community-minded and management-minded. And the thing that he's extremely good at is just making a cool product that creates services for people like him. I don't think he's that interested in, you know, being on the ground in Myanmar and figuring out how that works. Well, you could tell, too, because even when he did that CNN interview like a few weeks ago, he was like, if you told me in 2004, I would be here talking about like, you know,

the dangers of Facebook to like a legitimate democratic election. I'd be like, what the heck are you talking about? Yeah, he doesn't have the interest. And I don't think, you know, he felt of Facebook to like a legitimate democratic election. I'd be like, what the heck are you talking about? Like, yeah, he doesn't have the interest. And I don't think, you know, he felt like his work's done. And I'm like, you know, what do you want me to do? I'm just going to sit on my pile of 60 plus billion dollars and count it all day. I don't mean to jump the gun. I don't know if you're going to touch on it. But like, this feels like such a direct parallel to Trump, where it just like, like, wasn't last week, didn't a video come out where someone asked Donald Trump, they were like, what advice would you give yourself 10 years ago? And he was like, don't run for president. Really? Yeah. He was like, he just

like said that. And it was like a laugh line. But like, you could tell that it's like, these things sound great. And when any project is getting started, if you get her off the ground, congratulations. But like, to your point, you have to then start putting in people who are selfless, who are going to be able to oversee it, to nurture it, and go on to your next idea. But I'm with you. It's like, at some some point a certain responsibility has to be taken by Facebook. You need somebody who's at least as powerful as him who is basically the president of this $2 billion nation that they've created. I mean, I have experience with this. It cracked.

The things that made me good at creating a product that made Cracked big didn't necessarily make me good at running a massive community and running a massive business. I think that was a big failing of mine because that's just not what I was in a position to do. That's not what I was trained at or good at. Maybe Mark can hire Barack Obama. Yeah. That's the type of person that we need.

A man of the people. He could work from home, hopefully. Or like somebody from the UN or something, because that's essentially what they need. We're also asking him to do things for which he wouldn't get credit, which, you know, like stopping a genocide before it happens is not a thing

that you get credit for. Right. Unfortunately, that's just not how shit works. The stats that don't get a thing that you get credit for. Right. Unfortunately, that's just not how shit works. The stats that don't get in the playbook kind of. Right, exactly. It's like the things that didn't happen is, and like we just need them to find somebody who that's going to be their entire focus.

Yeah, well, I mean, did you guys delete your Facebooks? It seems like that's been a groundswell. I haven't. You should delete your Facebooks. I use it so sparingly that like once I looked at what categories that they had, because you can find out what ad categories Facebook was able to put you in based on what they know. I had used it so little that I felt like, okay, you might not know much. But that's not just the only way Facebook gets you, which is sort of kind of what it seemed like a lot of people during these testimonies were trying to get at.

Because a lot of the stuff was everyone was saying like, you're selling people's personal data. You're selling people's personal data. You're selling people's personal data. And he's like, well, no, we're not selling the data. We have the data that allows us to have a laser guided advertising, targeted advertising. And so, you know, we're not selling the data. We're using the hell out of it.

Yeah. Right. Right. We're selling access to you. Right. Essentially. And I do think Super Producer Nick Stumpf was pointing out that some of the questions that people were like, look at this dumb old person like Orrin Hatch being like, so how the hell are you going to make money if you're giving it away for free?

And him being like, we sell ads, Senator. Right. First of all, that was like, okay, yeah, I get why you're an asshole. I get exactly the type of asshole you are. But also, I think Hatch might have been trying to make the point that, you know, okay, so you're selling something. You're making money somehow. If we're not paying you, like, what the fuck is happening?

Yeah, exactly. And he's like, we're selling access to everyone, basically. We're not the data. And he's like, we're selling access to everyone, basically. We're not the data. And he was really clear on repeating, I think he repeated that same line like eight times

throughout the testimony because I think, because he had his little note sheet that he was using and I feel like that was probably highlighted 900 times

to tell people, we're not selling personal data. Right. Facebook uses your data to sell access to you. Yeah. Senator.

Senator. Oh, Senator. Yeah. Senator. Senator. Oh, Senator. Mr. Senator. Senator. Senator. Mr. Senator. Yeah.

He just looked like a perpetual awkward Sears portrait studio photo of a sleep-deprived person. And yeah, we'll see how today goes, but man, he, dude looks like he needs a good night's sleep. Yeah. It looks like he has not taken a solid shit in about a year yeah he's mr diarrhea for sure your lower intestine closes up when you go to the hill right i feel like that's a solid week where you're like i'm not going to be regular now yeah you

begin to toxify so a slightly lower stakes but a more cartoonish example of Trump underestimating the intelligence of literally everyone around him. And in this case, being correct. So there's this New York Post story that maybe moved like some of the most copies that any New York Post headline has ever moved, where Marla Maples, President Trump's former wife, one of his former wives. Mother of Tiffany. Yeah, Tiffany's mother. The fun one. Came out and said, Trump is the best sex I've ever had. And that was blasted across the front page of the wildly conservative New York Post. With the smug ass Donald Trump.

The cover is so funny because he's just like, yeah, in big New York Post style, best sex ever had. And he's just grinning Trump next to it. Right. Not even Marla Maples. Right. So apparently the editor from that time has come out and said, you know, we actually mostly thought that that was just Trump impersonating Marla Maples, impersonating his wife. Right. Which is a thing that he's been known to do. And actually, I think we have audio of him on a phone conversation with a different reporter

where he is playing the role of his spokesman- John Miller, I think. John Miller, who is a recurring Trump spokesman who nobody can find any record of existing, but he would call up reporters and be like, yeah, I'm John Miller. I want to talk to you on behalf of Donald Trump. The best is that he doesn't even try and do a voice. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's trying to do a voice. Or in his head, but if you were anyone who knew Donald Trump, you'd be like, yeah, okay,

John Miller, how can I help you? So let's hear some clips of John Miller talking to a reporter. He gets called by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book in terms of women. Like who? Well, he gets called by a lot of people. Yeah. Well, what about, I mean, this is Carla Brady.

How important is she right now? Is she not? Well, I think it's somebody that, you know, she's beautiful. I saw her once quickly, and she's beautiful and all, but I think that he's got an all-open field, really, and the actresses and people that you write about just call to see if they can go out with him and thank them. I think that, I mean, he... He has a girlfriend.

She lives in Canada, but she calls all the time. You wouldn't meet her because she lives out there. She's beautiful. She's beautiful. She's a model. Yeah. Oh, man. That time-honored classic lie from junior high,

the girlfriend in the other state. Oh, yeah. So why did he get away with this, just doing voices and the New York Post took him at his word? So the New York Post is a conservative tabloid. And we're finding out more and more that a big part of the Trump mythos is that he has good connections in the tabloid industry. And that seems to be very similar to the way that uh the new york post got the quote for their cover right because at the time this is like in 1990 he was trying to divorce ivana trump uh and she was i guess regularly like just owning him in the tabloid like in the comms war about

their divorce and so one day like something something out. He calls the New York Post, like editor of the New York Post, and this is a quote. He says, those fucking bitches. I want a front page story tomorrow. This is what they're saying was an actual quote from him.

And the editor told him, said the only way you're going to get on the front page is if it has to do with sex, money, murder. And he briefly considered murdering somebody. Not sex, money, murder.

Let's bring back to Central Park Five. Yeah, not the New York Blood blood gang uh sex money murder but those three topics so trump said oh well you know marla says i'm like the best sex she's ever had and the editor responded well do you have anyone that can corroborate this and he so he's on the phone he just was like apparently this is how the conversation goes he goes hey marla tell him about how you uh always say i'm the best at sex. Yes, Donald. Did you hear that?

You see? So she said that and you should print that. They did. And retrospectively, they're like, yeah, we always were a little dubious about who may have been actually saying that on the back of the phone. Right. But, you know, when he has to change the narrative, he knows how to take his destiny into his own hands and just create realities. He finds people even dumber than him and gets them to report trash. Yeah. Or who are prone to being friendly to people like him. The New York Post is a conservative tabloid. And yeah, that seems to be a big part of how the Trump mythos has been created from the start and now, you know, running into his run for

the presidency. We're now finding out the New Yorker has just released a report saying that the National Enquirer paid $30,000 to kill a story about Trump having an illegitimate kid. The New Yorker hasn't uncovered anything saying that he did actually have an illegitimate kid, just that the National Enquirer paid $30,000 for that story and then just buried it, never published it. And this is a big deal because it establishes, you know, we've already seen that this company would do this for Trump with other

stories of him having affairs. You know, they would do a catch and kill where they pay, you know, $80,000 for a story and then just completely kill it. And this is, by the way, one of the most frugal media companies out there. And they're just paying money just to... So as in like, they wouldn't throw money at something if there wasn't a reason to bury it. As in like they're getting something more valuable from Donald Trump to keep this out of their magazine. And this particular story, the $30,000 paid to kill the story about him having an illegitimate child is significant because it establishes a pattern of buying and

burying stories that could be damaging to the president during the campaign which is against campaign i mean if you believe fire and fury steve bannon was like hey kazowitz was like the fucking fixer man like what are there like 100 women like there's like that quote about during 100 i mean i i hope that's an exaggeration, but who knows? I mean, the way this fucking guy moves, I wouldn't put it past him.

It reminds me of like in the game of Thrones story where like Robert Baratheon has like 20 illegitimate children and all the Lannisters are like just trying to go around and kill all of them. So again, the story, they go around and kill actual people that might be this, like the heir to the throne. They don't know.

Yeah. Very similar. Better safe than sorry. Yeah. They're just doing that with people who had information. So I just want to read from the New Yorker article because it's just interesting how this ties into some of the stuff we've been talking about. On a section of our podcast you wouldn't think would be this relevant, but we do a Bloid Watch every Friday, and where we look at what's on the front page of the tabloids, because people are looking at that,

seeing that every time they go to the grocery store. And there's wild shit being published on those front pages, and it always seems to be about the Clintons doing bad stuff, or Obama, never about Trump. And that's because almost all of those tabloids are owned by this company, American Media Inc. They're kind of like the fake news before it went to the internet. Right. Exactly. It was like just the tabloid news is just whatever makeup shit bad about someone. Exactly.

It's your own purpose. So two sources from American Media Inc. said that they think that the catch and kill operations Exactly. pecker to potential sources of funding. And this ties back to that random magazine tabloid about MBS, Muhammad bin Salman. Bin Salman, the crown prince. Yeah, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. Suddenly there was just in everybody's grocery store aisle a giant tabloid about how rad that dude was. He's like, welcome to the kingdom, y'all. With no ads. Not an advertisement inside the magazine.

Really? Yeah, that's rare for any publication. That should raise a red flag. Right. But one of the AMI sources told The New Yorker, Pecker's not going to take $30,000 from company funds to shut down a potentially damaging story without making sure it got back to him so he could get credit. And then in 2017, his company began acquiring new publications, including Us Weekly, a men's journal. And this was right around the time that he started becoming friends with MBS and publishing stories like Friendly to MBS. So they think that basically MBS helped him fund those purchases of those new magazines. Oh, wow.

And it's all just a big jerk off. You get more magazines, I get more press coverage. Yeah. So Trump, MBS. Yo, hey, if Mohammed bin Salman, you know, I'm working on a couple magazines too. Right. It's called Getting High with Fidget Spinners if no ads needed. But it's funny.

I mean, it's good to have someone like David Pecker. You know, it's like when, didn't Nike like scrub every photo of A-Rod's man boobs from his steroid-induced like gynecomastia he got? Oh, is that right? You can't find a picture of it on the internet anymore. Wow. Like it's very hard to find like photos of a shirtless A-Rod during that time. Wow.

Because Nike was like, no, no, no, no, no. We do not need this out. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on in the world of baseball, Miles? I mean, look, I wanted to bring this story up because I'm really excited about Shohei Otani,

the Japanese baseball player, who is fucking doing great and just really fun to watch because he can pitch, he can hit, he's throwing triple-digit fastballs. And there was an article that just popped up in Wired about how the fastball has probably hit peak velocity and probably has for the last 80 years. No one has actually thrown a ball faster than a certain amount. And so they're saying that a decade ago, Major League pitchers threw a grand total of just 196 triple-digit fastballs in a single season. Last year, 40 pitchers through a grand total of just 196 triple digit fastballs in a single season last year 40 pitchers collectively through 1017 triple digit fastballs in the season and so what

they're saying is like sure we're seeing more people being able to throw 100 plus a mile an hour fastballs but the velocity hasn't changed it's just the number of people who have gotten to that level has and because right now i think the current recorded fastest pitch i think is from a role this chapman was like 105 back in 2010 but they were saying that you know like nolan ryan was actually the first pitcher to be tracked by radar and his like fastball i think the fastest one they got was like 100.8 but back then they were measuring 100.8 100.8 miles per hour and that ain't but back then they were measuring 100 point 100 point eight miles per hour and that ain't shit back then they were measuring that was the speed right before it crosses the plate whereas like aroldis chapman's was taken as it was leaving his hand so they were saying that if you sort of

reverse engineer this those sort of numbers that nolan ryan might have been throwing fastballs up upwards of 108 miles per hour and they said they they're even pitchers from the fifties and twenties that they suspect probably had the same ability. So we're starting to see that our bodies are reaching a certain, I guess, peak level because, and I think the other thing they're doing is connecting this, like sort of a lot of the strain from fastball pitching to the huge jump in number of Tommy John surgeries people are getting. And if you don't know what Tommy John surgery is, that's when a tendon in your elbow tears and you surgeons replace it with like a fresh one from your wrist or your form or your hamstring. And they do all kinds of shit to reinforce that.

But apparently that's not necessarily like making people faster pitchers, but it's just giving them the ability to years. Yeah, exactly. It's longevity. Yeah. And they're saying, because like the amount of torque you're putting on your shoulder is like holding five 12-pound bowling balls, like 60 pounds, like at its most intense moment.

And that just, our bodies just, you know. Not built for it. Yeah. So you can only throw a five-ounce sphere about 105 miles. Yeah. Which kind of bums me out because I was always hoping, you know, people are running faster, jumping higher. You'd think that logic would apply to baseball, but it's interesting to see that way.

Maybe there is a limit to something like this. I guess that's what's interesting about baseball. That's something baseball has that the other sports don't. Basketball and football have gotten better, faster, stronger, more visibly impressive just in our lifetime. You can see a change from when Jordan was playing versus when LeBron was playing. In fact, there's an amazing super cut. Did you see that?

Yes. Of Jordan playing against people and just the shitty defense that he faced. Oh, really? And they're just like, LeBron would fucking destroy these people because Jordan's scoring on three white dudes who look like me and are just, you know. Basketball players weren't the physical specimens. Yeah. Yeah. But baseball

is, you know, and I guess this is why people, you know, legislated the shit out of the whole steroid thing is because baseball, you can basically watch somebody today and think about how he compares statistically to the people who are playing in the 20s and you know uh obviously they were working with a more limited talent pool because they it was a white only sport uh back then but a bunch of white fatties right but what position did you play jonna i was uh outfield uh so did you know a lot of guys who are fucking up their arms from trying to throw the heat? I mean, I threw out my arms several times, not like in a way of tearing ligaments or anything like that, but yeah, it's not a natural motion.

Right, right. So you're definitely putting undue strain on your ligaments. Right. Because I've seen other people that have been pitching coaches who are trying to do other pitching motions that are less sort of strenuous on your body. But look, I'm just still holding out for some freak to be able to throw like 120 mile an hour fastball. That freak is going to be a cyborg. Yeah, right. Exactly. And then we're just playing Base Wars, the old video game.

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And we're back. One other thing that I wanted to talk about real quick is this news alert that credit card companies are now just admitting that we don't need to sign bills, that signing bills doesn't do anything. Oh, so when you get the receipt after the merchant copy, customer copy, sign here, you don't have to sign anymore. Apparently, credit card vendors are basically acknowledging that that doesn't do anything. It doesn't prevent fraud. Right. And it never has.

Yeah. Which is something that I always suspected, but I assumed they had some other reason for that existing. Is it not for the merchants? I thought it was more a protection on the merchant of like, look, we didn't type this in. Someone signed it. that way the credit card companies don't come after them for the fraud right right because it would make sense

the credit card companies be like yeah we don't need y'all to sign no more so we can start getting these merchants to charge back right i never signed the back of my credit card because i was just philosophically opposed to it i was raised with a myth of sort of like yo don't sign the back because that's how they steal your signature and that's how they're going to know how to sign your shit like you if they ever get your credit card. Because I think that was an era in which people were still using the carbon paper credit card slips and just like,

and then you filling out the receipt like that. I guess it makes sense because whenever I get to an electronic keypad where you slide your card and then it'll be like, sign here. That's where you especially see it. I literally do a circle or a line because I card and then it'll be like sign here that's where you especially see it I just do a I literally do a circle or a line

cause I'm like I've never been someone be like excuse me can I see your signature sir right really I've never seen

anybody match a signature oh I really try to they do at the bank I got into a fight at the bank for sure cause they were like you don't sign anything the same ever

I was like do people sign their signature the same way every single time I mean I always put a star in the middle cause I'm extra oh you do yeah I was like I was like, do people sign their signature the same way every single time? I mean, I always put a star in the middle because I'm extra.

Oh, you do? Yeah. Lacey Star Mosley. I was like, here y'all go because I'm going to be signing these for y'all. Did you dot the I with a star? Is that how you do it? No. So I put, it's like Lacey and then the Mosley.

And then I take the Y at the end and circle it back to the middle and make a star. Oh, shit. That's probably very tough. Did you take a class for that? No, it's not cute i have horrible i have the handwriting of a serial killer like it's so bad and it changes so then the bank's always like this is not you and i was like this is me bitch look at me in my eye right and tell me this is not me but they made me sign several times once i had to go in the bank and spend an hour there just

signing over and over again because they were like none of these are the same right and we've also brought in a forensic uh handwriting analyst to make sure this is you. Yeah. And super producer Nick Stumpf was saying he has the same problem. His signature doesn't end up being the same. And that got him in trouble in Mexico where he went down there with nothing but traveler's checks

and they were like, your signature doesn't look the same. He was like, well, I'm going to starve to death. I swear, just don't look at me while I do it i bet you i can do it travelers checks that's a scam i need to get into with the q on the end right uh yeah so apparently the whole idea behind those chips which i assumed was like a security thing. But Super Producer Nick Stumpf was saying that that is actually to put the liability on the store instead of the credit card company because I guess it pinpoints the location of the card to being there. Like, you know for a fact the card was there. Rather than someone like manually punching a credit card number with an expiration date

or something. They're like, no, you put the chip in right there in our terminal. Right. But either way, the signature you put the chip in right there in our terminal. Right. But either way, the signature part of it, I don't know. Maybe that was opening the credit cards up to liability before, but. I don't know. I think it was one of those things

where we just got excited about knowing we're not signing. I don't care about the rest of the details. Exactly. I will no longer be signing. This is like when suddenly. Susan. Suddenly Susan, my like when suddenly- Susan. Suddenly Susan, my favorite show, came out. No, when suddenly airlines were like,

oh yeah, you don't actually have to turn off your phone during takeoff and landing for a little while. They just opened up- They said that? Yeah, there was a point where we used to have to actually turn shit off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't even have your phone on right or an airplane mode well before that they were saying you had to turn it completely off

oh gotcha and then they were like all right we were just fucking around about that which brought about my favorite joke in soul plane where's they turn someone tries to make a phone call and the plane goes down. Classic soul play. See, the aviation industry paid for that joke to get written in. Right. You see? Are there other things like that

that you guys can think of that you're like, I bet this doesn't actually need to exist or that the function of it doesn't totally make sense? You're just waiting for them to come out and be like, yeah, we were lying about that. The whole political system?

Police? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Our two-party system of government? I don't know. I'll have to do something in my day Red light cameras. What do you mean? Red light cameras are unconstitutional, though.

You're not supposed to pay them. You don't have to. They can't come after you. Uh-oh. I run red lights all the time. Well, they played my ass. We do stand by this as legal advice. We will stand by it.

Wasn't there a case because somebody, because they argued they're not allowed to, they created a spray that would react with the flash that would basically obscure the license plate and then like it got into this thing of like well actually this spray is legal because what you're doing is illegal and we're protecting ourselves from i don't know i'm not exactly sure but i do know that like i i'd be running these red lights and it'd be flashing now listen i'm not recklessly hey look if it's 2 a.m in la and.A. and nobody's on the road, that's like olden times, like horse and buggy rules. I like that. You should use this in court, too. My honor, I have to tell you.

My honor, not even your honor. My honor, can I say something really quick? This is like olden times. The old olden times defense. I have read somewhere that red light cameras cause more accidents than they prevent because basically people it it adds a lag in the slamming on the brakes because you have to be like, OK, am I going to stop or go? And your initial instinct is to go for it. But then you remember there's a red light camera there. So you like speed up, then slam on the brakes and people just get wrecked that way. Exactly.

See, I'm trying to save lives out here. Exactly. Okay, well. So do not pay your red light camera bills. Super producer

Anna Hosnier is letting us know that her mother designs those cameras. It would directly impact her family so actually, please pay everything

that they say you need to do when that happens. Yeah, y'all pay. I won't. But Zeitgang, I want to hear some of your things that are like the credit card signature that you're just waiting for the companies to come out and be like, all right, we don't know why we were doing this in the first place. Right.

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