The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 190 (Best of 8/23/21-8/27/21)

Episode Date: August 29, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:22 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist miles we are very fortunate to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite tdz guests a very funny comedian from good mythical morning and the star wars show he's the co-creator of newsbroke and the host of the podcast frockcast and pod yourself a, which Miles and I have both been on. He is Mr. Matt Lieb.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Matthew Lieb. Done dirt cheap. Matthew. What's up, guys? I was trying to do a song, too. I like that. That was awesome. Matthew Lieb and his cums dirt cheap. Matthew Lieb.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I had to do my full name in order to get all the syllables right, but I think it worked out. If you're vaccinated and you're... I'm sorry, I was just going to make a really tasteless cum joke. Do it! Matthew Lieb and his cums dirt cheap. Because anti-vaxxers believe that their
Starting point is 00:03:42 semen is the new gold, so yeah. Matthew Lieb because anti-vaxxers believe that their semen is the new gold. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Matthew Lieb, and he licks both cheeks. See, there's a bunch of stuff you could do. I love this. Matthew Lieb, check out his wicky feet. Dude, my girlfriend, I mean, my fiance.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, whoa, whoa. Come on, bro. Easy there. Update it. She's on wicky feet, and there's a picture of her and I together in which she is on WikiFeet, but I am not on WikiFeet even though my feet are next to her on WikiFeet. And I feel, I don't know, like I'm just not WikiFeet famous yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I hope to get there today after this podcast. Wait, the picture has you as with open toe like your feet are exposed we're both wearing sandals we're like at the beach or something you're wearing sandals in public i mean that's feminine bro that's feminine like sandals like the jizz told me from a young age and that's a minimum and feminine like sandals i fucking i had a whole thing about not wearing sandals for a minute. Because of that specifically? I just heard the jizz.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I mean, jizz is a genius. And despite his regressive, toxic masculinity, I was like, oh, maybe his sandals are feminine, bro. I mean, they are thong sandals. So I kind of see where he's coming from. You know what I mean? Or you do the, which is funny because at a certain age, like a lot lot of old black men they rock the same kind of leather strapped covered toe sandal which is very ironic to me like it's like a certain age where like my grandfather wearing them then i saw like my uncle start wearing them my dad hasn't quite got there yet but
Starting point is 00:05:18 every people know if you know that that strappy leather sandal that the the older black men in the community rock. But it covers the toes. They stay modest with it. Yeah. Is that what you're saying? It's a bit of a yeah. Has like even though there's some, you know, the air can get through the toes.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. Keep that. You know, you need that space between you and God.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Like only God can know what your disgusting toes look like. And here's the thing. I don't like people looking at my toes. I don't want them to look at my toes but if i were famous enough and people happen to look at my toes on the internet i'd be like oh shoot that's too bad and then move on with my life that's me in a panic if i don't cut my toenails like i get that like i'm like oh i gotta cut my toenails and then you go out to do a thing and you got sandals on you're like fuck i'm like trying to curl my toes underneath yeah i'm always doing
Starting point is 00:06:06 that because my toes are so long like i i know my toes are too long because like my both of my kids when they have gotten to the age of being able to like talk and notice weird things have commented on my feet like without any prompting how long are we talking yeah what uh i got real long toes bro we got like like a bear's claw like you know marsupial yeah yeah yeah it's pretty long okay we'll bring him out for the live show yeah honestly seriously yeah you can make some good money bringing that out for the live show yeah it's probably someone's fetish right like doesn't it all get started when you're like a kid anything you're just a kid? Anything is anything. Anything is anything.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Anything can make me horny. Just watch. Just watch. That is my promise to you on this show. Well, Zykan, get Matt's feet up on WikiFeet so there's a balance to the relationship. Come on. Yeah, yeah. First, Francesca, we'd like to ask our guest what is something from your search history i was just looking because i just i use duck duck go uh they're not paying me
Starting point is 00:07:14 but they should duck duck go is a much better search engine than google yeah and you can rely on this like cute little cartoon duck to not you know steal all of your information nice so i just this morning they have a great app and you can like erase your entire history and like flames go through your phone and just like and it was amazing oh like you said the spider web on fire it's like i've never done that but now i want to immediately yeah i was an asshole with WD-40 and 14 at one point. Wow. I didn't realize that was a thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You spray a spider web with WD-40.
Starting point is 00:07:50 No, no, no. I was flamethrowing. I was flamethrowing with the WD-40. And then you accidentally caught a spider web. And I hit the spider web. And then, look, the way the spider web went up, I was like, oh, shit. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And then my mom was like, what the fuck did I say about playing with fire? I'm like, nothing. You didn't say anything. say about playing with fire? I'm like, nothing. You didn't say anything. She's like, what? I'm like, nothing. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm so scared of you. So, Dr. Phil, just flame your phone up?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Flame my phone up so I don't really have anything there. But I was looking. Okay, so I'm engaged. I believe you're having my betrothed on very soon. And, you know, Matt and I are, I are i'm gonna get real we're very good friends you know we're like we're the like here i'm not only marrying someone i love but my best friend like we're best friends kind of thing yeah if he threw a party and invited everyone he knew you would he would see the biggest gift would be from you i think oh wow yeah probably did you read that in a fortune cookie that's from the uh on a throw pillow or some shit that's from the uh golden
Starting point is 00:08:52 girls theme song wow i i take everything i just said back so y'all are best friends and you and you finish each other's sentences you're so in step with each other but but i am like you know i've always thought that it's like yeah but you need more than just being your best friend so obviously you know i'm like googling like should you marry your best friend articles you know straight and you know look the answers are bad all the articles i'm reading i mean they're good but they're also bad but but i remember years ago because i've also been divorced like or i am divorced years ago there was a great article from some dude who was clearly if i met him i'd hate him but he was like um i asked all of my wedding guests to tell me what the secret to their marriage
Starting point is 00:09:41 was you know and he like pulled them and blah, blah. And it was, it was actually really interesting. It was like a lot about like mutual respect, like mutual respect is that thing that you really need. And, and then I think like, you know, so that comes obviously from like being friends, whatever. Anyway, I'm fishing for, I can't find the same article. So I'm fishing for like reinforcement that, that that yes you should marry your best friend type thing but if enough brides are blubbering about it on their wedding day then i feel like that's a good sign yeah i feel yeah i mean i think look i think the only one i don't even think it's a red flag it's just a it's a gray flag was obviously the faux pas the flub with the ring selection
Starting point is 00:10:23 you know but even that that feels like you're able to overcome that. So, you know, y'all can do it. How did the ring go? You know, the new one's on its way. Okay. So we did. We did remedy that. It's being mined by white chicks who went to Sarah Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:10:41 It had to make its trip all the way from that mine over there. And it's a very particular, it's a sort of like reparations for rocks, you know, it's, it's, it's a white slavery line. And anyway, they're, they're working on it. And I'm excited for when it arrives. So yeah, we're gonna remedy that. But yeah, you know, I'm getting I'm doing the like, the pre the pre the like engaged jitters of like what are the things what are our what are our problem areas that we're gonna just sort of highlight so like you know if this is for realsies you know yeah but i feel like y'all if you're together that long and you already have that friendship that's like the hardest shit it's like people who never think about it and then get married to the people who have problems that's true and you both i think have you know understand each other's careers and what you're doing what you're
Starting point is 00:11:28 passionate about and you're willing to support each other and that's really what it takes you know versus someone who's going to be like i told you doing all that ha ha shit wasn't going to pay off and like harbor that kind of shit the whole time yeah that's not going to fucking work you know let me put that in your little stand-up routine yeah yeah i've had exes say that to me like i thought if you like wanted to do comedy like you probably would have done it by now like oh thanks buddy yeah yeah no i know yeah and it's tough being a creative person and being with someone who's like like an accountant you know who's like had their path like nailed on from college versus other people who roll on that dice to express themselves a little bit or just any field that
Starting point is 00:12:08 might not be as like consistent and be in a relationship with someone like that. It takes understanding and respect for them. Be like, that's what my partner needs to feel happy. And I want to support that because my goal is to have a happy partner. I mean, we're going to get into a story that is going to make me rethink whether or not I should have just married for money later in this episode, though. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like if neither of us makes it in five to seven years, we might just murder each other or do some like joint, you know, murder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 At the same time. Just like natural born killers. You guys go on a know, murder some. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At the same time. Natural born killers. You guys go on a romantic killing spree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very romantic. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:12:51 that's TMI up top. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or just do some comedy sets on a COVID cruise ship or something. Fuck it. Let's just go out like this. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:13:03 I wanted to ask how many times have people said Marvel on this show in the overrated slot? Not often. Are people still into it? I think it's not like a constant thing. I think more than like overrated, sometimes you're just like, I don't know it. There's another thing. Oh, I see. Having been steeped for work in pop culture my entire life, I just want us to find a new toy.
Starting point is 00:13:31 So I'm going to give the slot to Marvel fatigue. Because honestly, I feel such strong Marvel fatigue that I had assumed it had come up on the show many, many times by now. But I guess people are just dumb and wrong. Well, I think the difference is Jack and I are a unique blend of out of touch with the MCU. So we don't experience the fatigue because we already I would I already experienced fatigue when like a ninth Thor film came out. Yeah. I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I can't. And also like my place where it got good. My pace at watching films is like super slow. Like I'm a turtle when it comes to watching new movies so like i don't also have the same like media intake you know pace that a lot of other people do so that's my appetite for marvel stops at movies and even then i am treating avengers endgame like it's a russian novel i i'm halfway through it. Oh, wow. Yeah, I just stopped because I couldn't. It was just too dense for you.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Too dense, exactly. I just didn't have the time. So my Disney Plus is halfway through on Marvel Endgame. Oh, so you're like, But I think I have an idea of what happens. You're training it like Infinity Stone's jest, essentially. Yes, exactly. Nice.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, it's twofold, because I'm not just sick of the formula, but I am sick of the formula. But it's also like working in the industry, it's a weird black hole that sucks up every young independent director who has a very unique voice and just turns them into like, hey, we'll give you a Marvel thing or we'll give you a jurassic world and i'm sick of it it's overrated handle it can you handle it yeah the school to marvel pipeline needs to be dismantled right or the sunset or the sundance the usc to marvel pipeline right the chapman yeah marvel uh pipeline but you so you, it's more just like you've gotten your fill and now you're just like, I would like something different now. Like for you, you just feel like it's worn thin and now you but you do have the appetite for something. It's just something different. I have a limitless. That's why the only reason I think it's OK for me to knock it is I'm their person.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Like I have a limitless appetite for wacky, colorful, imaginative. We're going to go into space and punch this purple guy like I'm on person. Like I have a limitless appetite for wacky, colorful, imaginative. We're going to go into space and punch this purple guy. Like I'm on board. Yes. But every one just feels like it's made from the pieces of the previous one in the way where, I mean, you can get into how these movies are made. They do previs on like the major effects shots years before they bring the writers on. So the writers are like stringing together. They're like, well, we know a giant thing has to fall out of the sky, and we know she has to parachute in Act 3,
Starting point is 00:16:08 and then they'll write Black Widow around it. Oh, interesting. It's only a good system for getting one kind of movie, and I think we're seeing that. So you've watched them all? I do watch them all for work, yes, indeed. And did you watch Suicide Squad?
Starting point is 00:16:25 The Suicide Squad? The suicide squad? The suicide squad, the new one, the new one. Yeah. I don't mean to be pedantic. Yeah. Yeah. This is where I'm man.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So I'm going to get a lot of flack for if we're really going deep on overrated, all the movies everyone likes right now are overrated. The suicide squad sucked. The green night sucked. Oh, wow. Oh,
Starting point is 00:16:43 really? Every movie, every movie everyone likes is is bad and you're all you all just have your taste is blunted from the pandemic is my opinion got it okay movies are underperforming tv is over performing right now just go watch a series because now like what is it what is that one nine total strangers or nine the Nicole Kidman Hulu thing? I don't even know it, but it's great. Oh, yeah. Everyone, every show I hear about, they're like Mayor of Easttown.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm like, I never heard of it. Sounds phenomenal. Right. Yeah. It's like nine perfect strangers is like they said was doing better numbers than the Handmaid's Tale for Hulu. Oh, boy. Wow. Handmaid's Tale for Hulu. Oh, boy. Wow. People like people were like this just terrible timing because White Lotus came out and it's like a similar ish vibe in that like people are in
Starting point is 00:17:32 paradise and weird things are happening. But it could also just be one of those things where it's like White Lotus got people in the mood to just continue to binge on this shit. So, you know, A, less talent in a tropical environment being trippy. So you are into TV. What's a TV show you're into? Patriot's the last TV show I love, but that's like 12 years old now, so I got to stop saying that.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, I'm rewatching Sopranos. You know, the classics. I feel like I've officially left pop culture's key demographic and I went out with shit like Deadwood The Wire, Patriot was on the tail end, nothing's really wowed me, there's another one I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:18:16 is way overrated, Queen's Gambit sucked, I think all these things suck or it's me and I'm wrong and I'm just becoming the guy who's like, culture stopped for me in 2015 and that's it. No good albums after that. Yeah, there's still a ton of stuff I'm excited for.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Like last night in Soho, the new Edgar Wright, I mean, I expect to blow me away. And I'll say in the world of video games, I'm much more excited. There's a bunch of cool stuff happening over on that side. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Tiger King was definitely one of those things that when you look back on it didn't really make sense how obsessed everyone was about it and i think queen's gambit just anything that's king or queen related in title that that was like a hack they figured out yeah somehow we were all just super into it right
Starting point is 00:19:00 atlanta comes to mind as like an all-time great show that's not too old. What is something you think is underrated? Okay, so the Crate Challenge has been making me think about the fact that Black Americans as culture makers are incredibly underrated. Because I started thinking about, you know, like 15 15 years ago maybe even 20 years ago there was this whole thing at the end of the year that people would make these blog posts and or like whatever they post something up and they're like these are all the words for canceling this year and it was all like terms that black americans had come up with to use in like certain situations uh that white people then took and would like incorrectly apply right but it was like every
Starting point is 00:19:43 single year it's like here's the things we're canceling and it was always because black people are always the ones making culture here not exclusively but constantly and so the uh yeah well our little crate challenge business was like somebody was like what is this do i need to follow this and i'm like it's just black tiktok and twitter making culture Right. And then turning into just punish fest. The most brutal ones I see are when people fucking kick the crates out from under people. And I'm like, half of this is a challenge and half of this seems like a setup to go fuck with somebody you don't like. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 But, oh, shout out to the listener that sent me the one, the person completing the challenge in heels. Damn. Very impressive. We love to see it. I liked the one that was in the prison yard. Oh, yeah. I saw that one, too, with the white guy.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That was so good. It was so good. With the nut truck. And then you're like, damn, everybody got fucking phones in there. Everybody has smartphones in prison. Yeah. Because the person was like, oh, they're doing it in jail. And then I'm like, wait. Wait. Someone has a phone. No. Wait. No, multiple people. Everybody else has a phone. Because at first I was like, oh, they're doing it in jail. And then I'm like, wait, someone has a phone.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Wait, everybody else has a phone. Yeah. There's multiple angles of coverage in the yard. But, you know, everyone's surviving. You know what? I'm okay with it. Is everybody surviving the milk crate challenge? Because some of the injuries look like deadly. Oh, there are some
Starting point is 00:21:06 again that, like I said, you don't want to cast your eyes upon it if you've ever even tweaked your back, like showering because half of them I watch and go, oh, he's done. That bad? Nope, not like that. Or whenever I watch them, I imagine my rigid body falling
Starting point is 00:21:22 from those heights and I'm like, I was shattered into a million pieces. I have to look away yeah it does seem like a way to thin out the uncoordinated and like people who are desperate for social approval you can imagine a like a first date where you're like look i'm before i consider you i need to see you do the great challenge right i have to just to know if you're fit. If you're fit as a man. Can I show you a video of me doing it? Do I have to do it right now?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Like in front of you? Like what is. I mean, look, it doesn't have to be in front of me. Like it can be a video. I'm not asking you to perform for me, but at some point I do need to see some kind of video evidence.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You know? Yes. Well, it's one of those things that the people who succeed at it make it look so easy yeah and seamless that's what i'm saying like it's underrated how much core strength oh leg strength you need to do that shit because again you see people do it calmly you don't realize how strong their legs and core are to not start shaking because like half of them are like i will be fixed at a low angle and support my body weight as i ascend and descend yeah it's like freestyle rapping it looks
Starting point is 00:22:33 easy so you tried yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break i'm gonna go try the milk crate challenge and we'll be right back. Fantasy football fans. The NFL season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the NFL fantasy football podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant and my pal,
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Starting point is 00:24:40 When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish
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Starting point is 00:27:03 just didn't make any sense or made a lot of sense when you realize he was in control of everything. Everything. And was just forcing his way on to being the host in a way that was embarrassing. when he first raised it, but was just a great testament to the way bad decisions get made in corporate America, where like the powerful guy who runs the thing,
Starting point is 00:27:31 people are just like, yeah, boss, great idea. And it goes all the way until he announces, hey, guys, guess what? This great idea everybody's on board with. I'm going to be the host. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. But yeah, it seemed seemed like everyone once people found out like you know the behind the scenes is how transparently just corrupt and like the rat fucking that it took to make him the host plus all of the allegations from his past gigs plus the comments he was making on his podcast finally got to a point where he was like, all right. Yep. I guess this is bad now. I resign with immediate effect and I will no longer be the host of Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I just want to read his fucking like part of his statement, though, because it's so whatever. Quote, I was deeply honored to be asked. Wow. The syndicated show. My man. You were not into the mirror. Like, yeah. Wow. The syndicated show. My man. Is this being done into the mirror? Yeah, right? Thank you, kind sir.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And was thrilled by the opportunity to expand my role. However, over the last several days, it has become clear that moving forward as host would be too much
Starting point is 00:28:37 of a distraction for our fans and not the right move for the show. How about, it's clear now over the last several days that I'm a total piece
Starting point is 00:28:45 of shit who doesn't deserve to rat fuck my way on to jeopardy as the host that much has been clear thank you so much i'm out that's i feel a lot of ways about this you know because one of the hilarious things let's just let's just talk about exactly what he did he like in in terms of the test audience that was supposed to judge which guest host they liked best for jeopardy he like in in terms of the test audience that was supposed to judge which guest host they liked best for jeopardy he like put himself on all of those yeah so i was like did you like me in the blue shirt or do you like me in the gray and then withheld lavar burton the one who like everybody wanted for the very end and only gave him a single week and yeah it was yeah did not give anybody else a good chance but it's a little bit revealing as to like how and why people lose these kinds of jobs because of course
Starting point is 00:29:32 there's the like he's been canceled for his comments and i gotta say some of his comments are like exactly what i would expect from a game show host executive like Like, oh, you're misogynist towards women. You want the models to wear bikinis. Game show host executive. Right or wrong, that's what I expect. You know, I'm not saying we shouldn't change that culture. We should. It's just, you know, we're talking about-
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's a par for the course. Yeah, the last vestige of like the most mainstream, the most, you know know just like Benny Hill programming that we've got which are game shows Jeopardy excluded very very different yeah but then you realize that and I think it just grossed the way that yeah he did rat fuck his way into power and that seems more egregious to me than the misogyny although of course in terms of the workplace like treating a pregnant woman you know know, being like, I should have fired you. Obviously that's like, you know, and I believe there is a lawsuit for that. That's just straight up illegal, whatever. Discrimination. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Exactly. Workplace discrimination. But there's something so obnoxious also, cause I, I've done, I've worked in this area, but on like such a minor, you know internet level of like as a host i've been hired as host pretty much all the time host and producer and then you work with a producer who's like secretly really gunning for your job all the time right right you know who's like oh but i think i should host this because you know and you're just like no because that's not your job yeah yeah give those aggressive notes on your delivery. It's like, excuse you? Can I give you a read?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Can I give you a read real quick? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Don't give me a read. I'll bite your head off personally. But it's so common, you know, and I'm always like, if you want to be a host, that's totally all good. Then you probably shouldn't be the executive producer on this. Just, like, take a year, whatever, be honest about it. Say, say you know what i really want to be a host i'm gonna do this you
Starting point is 00:31:29 know and that'd be a more fair way no one's saying a producer can't then be a host i think that's good but it's like there's a more fair way to do that right then just like in spanish like they say they're just like you're like in a movie, like cutting the floorboard out from underneath somebody like. Right, right, right. And they're like, well, that's where he disappeared anyway. I'm here now to fill that role. Let's move forward. Like, did he give Trebek cancer?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Can't we not move that? Right. Wait for that report. Yeah, it is frustrating to me that this is being pitched in the mainstream as like in the mainstream account of this as like getting canceled for a thing he said on podcast. And it's like that's the least egregious thing that you could possibly take away from that. But, you know, people people want to believe that we're in a runaway cancel culture. And so, yeah, that helps with that story. Thank God he's gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But he's still the executive producer. Yeah, still the EP, though. Still getting that showrunner money, though. He's all good. He's like, fine, I guess we can get LeVar back. Although I wish they did that, and then LeVar can be like, look at you.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Look at you, huh? Look at your ass. No thanks. Anyway, I'm the new host of Jeopardy! LeVar can be like, look at you. Look at you, huh? Look at your ass. No, thanks. Anyway, I'm the new host of Jeopardy, LeVar Burton, folks. All right. Let's talk about some reports that are coming in about how the federal government and just law enforcement responded to the Black Lives Matter protests last year and protests about over-policing. Seems like they weren't overly permissive, I guess would be one way. I mean, yeah, this report really, it's not shocking when you just know, again, when the people, the reason people were in the streets are like, yeah, we have a system of law
Starting point is 00:33:21 enforcement that's just built on, you know, just racism and white supremacy. And so because of that, it has no other option but to operate in service of white supremacy. So this report is sort of like, shockingly, during the uprisings over the white supremacist slant and focus of law enforcement, we saw that come to light, essentially. And this is a report that was shared with first the Associated Press with the Movement for Black Lives. And it's essentially saying like, hey, look, as the uprisings grew larger and public participation grew larger, so did the policing and the feds showed up in increased numbers and began handing out heavy handed prosecutions to disrupt. And, you know, and also they were surveilling
Starting point is 00:34:06 certain members of like certain activists and things like that. And they're like, yeah, it's very COINTELPRO-y, if you know what I mean. And in this, like as this group shows, what they're saying is like, look, we also found that in about 93% of the cases that were brought by federal prosecutors against protesters protesters there were state level charges that would have been completely appropriate and less severe but they're juxtaposing that also with knowing that there were just top-down orders from trump and bill bar to go fucking after people in a much different way as opposed to let you know juxtapose that with the covid shutdown protests where you know
Starting point is 00:34:45 you saw some white people bringing fucking guns to state houses and shit was all good and so in this sort of body of the report they said well we want to really show how the u.s government has continued to persecute the black movement by surveillance by criminalizing protests and by using the criminal legal system to prevent people from protesting and punishing them for being engaged in protests by attempting to curtail their first amendment rights. It is undeniable that racism plays a role. It is structurally built into the fabric of this country and its institutions, which is why it's been so difficult to eradicate. It's based on institutions that were designed around racism and around the devaluing of black people and the devaluing of black lives.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So now they're calling for amnesty for these protesters, as well as like, you know, to get behind policing bills that are actually going to take funding from police and actually put them into communities, especially black communities, to make them safer. So, yeah, it's like not surprising. But when you again, you look through and you're like, oh, right. Yeah, they had orders to go harder on these protesters. And that completely makes sense. Yeah, no, of course. And I'm just happy that the movement for black lives did this research and also that it got picked up by news outlets because that can often fly under the radar. They're like, no, no, that's not real stats. It's like, no, no, these are grassroots organizations that actually have more connections with people facing these charges. And yeah, that's why January 6th, you know, hit different. In the wake of all this, not just that we were seeing, like you're mentioning the anti-lockdown protests juxtaposed with BLM protests and the vastly different police turnout.
Starting point is 00:36:21 and the vastly different police turnout. Then you had January 6th and you're like, yeah, anyone who ever talks about BLM ever again. I mean, that was BLM though on January 6th. Yeah, that was. Those were black people in white face looking like old boomers beating the shit out of people with crutches. It's like, and again, the amount of brain twisting that goes on, even when you can, you just look, compare the two, you know, it's like, let's pepper ball people who are like on the side of a road protesting versus like taking selfies with people that broke into the fucking Capitol. Like, come on now, come on. Not to mention all the ways that BLM demonstrators
Starting point is 00:37:00 have also been victimized by white nationalist organizations and white nationalists themselves from, you know, Heather Heyer being killed, but multiple people have been run into and over by cars. So, you know, who the police is protecting, what kind of speech they're protecting in moments like that is really significant, whether they're protecting people's right to exercise their First Amendments, or are they allowing cars to plow into peaceful demonstrators yeah the other thing i was just going to say and we sort of forget this but we're coming up on 10 years since the occupy wall street movement and it's hard to remember how that movement like stopped and it did stop because of a whole lot of cointelRO and police violence. It was because it was very much an Occupy,
Starting point is 00:37:47 we're going to sit down, like not as much of a march movement, like obviously not nearly as many, you know, black activists involved. The tactics were different, but there was massive amounts of undercovers who were filtering, infiltrating the Occupy Wall Street movement to take it down
Starting point is 00:38:06 from the inside. Also then like just cordoning off Fort Plazas, city halls, anywhere where Occupy Wall Street was occupying was fence put up. It was like, you know, they were trying to evict a homeless encampment or something like this. So kind of remembering all the ways that no matter when social movements really pop off, left, right, Democrat, Republican, the first order of business is stop them, just stop them. And obviously, sadly, we don't take that, you know, white nationalists or anyone who's fully armed with an AR-15 who's got a plot to like, you know, kidnap the governor, we don't take them nearly as seriously. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The white nationalists blew up a state building in Oklahoma City, and we didn't go to war on white nationalism for 20 years the way we did after September 11th. It was just a thing that people kind of, oh, we got the guy and we moved forward. And it was just a lone wolf. We're much happier with lone wolves. You sell more bombs if the field of battle is in another place, in a far-off country, so there's more money to be made. I mean, they could drop bombs in the U.S., but that only happened in Philadelphia in 1985
Starting point is 00:39:17 when they dropped it on black activists because of the move. Anyway, but again, history is really something. And there's no, there's, you know, we keep repeating the same shit over and over and over. And that's what's so frustrating. And I think that's why a lot of marginalized people, people who are allies and shit just feel so disheartened constantly. You see all the shit that happens. can barely have a reckoning with American imperialism and looking at the after effects in Afghanistan and people like, oh, well, you know, it could have been done better, I guess. It's like, no, go all the way back saying we have to stop this pattern of sending the military abroad to occupy places and in the name of, you know, liberal democracy or whatever the cover is. But yeah, yeah, we still can't. it's just very difficult to have these reckonings here i feel like there are multiple cases of people driving into black lives matter protests that
Starting point is 00:40:11 and it just kind of went away like i remember watching one that was like broad daylight down and it was like somewhere in orange county or yeah newport beach and somebody drove through like came within inches of hitting like a three year old child who was there. And it just kind of went away. It was like a local news story that they then were like, yeah, well, we got to give this person the benefit of the doubt. And it wasn't like a big it didn't become a thing. It's ISIS tactics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And the other thing is, then you talk about places like texas or florida where they're like yeah it's legal to run over someone if they're in the road protesting or it's illegal to be in the road protesting so if that's the case then you can defend yourself with your car but a lot of people noticed when a lot of the protests were happening with cubans in florida over what was happening down in cuba they completely stopped a roadway and the police were like, well, you know, we're mostly we're mostly worried about black people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Black protests or left leaning protests, really, that that's when the big guns come out. Like there was that pipeline protest that I know some people who were at in I forget what year it was. It was like maybe five
Starting point is 00:41:25 six years ago and go to access yeah the dakota access pipeline and like the like they were they were like just deading all cell phones like hacking into people's cell phones there like on the ground it was just like next level like data and you know technological warfare for people protesting against a gas pipeline. Gas pipeline, yeah. It's really sad because you don't realize how few freedoms we have, actually, in the United States until you try and exercise them. Right. So I've protested in other countries and felt far freer than I have in the United
Starting point is 00:42:06 States. I've been arrested on a sidewalk protesting in the United States, you know, just like penned in, done. The order is you off the streets, you know, and like feeling that in that moment. And I was like, you know, I was like, I've been arrested before. I wanted to be arrested the first time for this was against the Iraq war. But the second time I wasn't meaning to. And it like kind of like stung a little more because I was like, man. Right. I was just out of this country. You know what I mean? You just realize that actually when you do stick your neck out, when you do actually do some some real organizing and work, there is it will be swift the amount that, you know that yeah your first amendment amendment rights do not
Starting point is 00:42:46 matter at all you're gonna be arrested and purely on ideological grounds purely yeah yeah and yeah anyway it's what's sad is that that happened a year i mean blm popped off a year ago i mean many years ago but for for in a mass movement last year. And this year we've got all these politicians now going like, nobody wants to defund the police. Cory Booker making his sort of epic, like ironic stand. And you're like, yeah, but maybe we should. Yeah, but maybe the lesson from not just what the protests were about, but the response to the protests themselves is all the example you
Starting point is 00:43:25 need is all the evidence you need that we really do need to redirect funds away from cops. Yeah. And then because that's all built on this framework of white supremacist, like, you know, capitalism, it's the only people who have freedoms are those that are going to extra like exercise their rights in service of that. So if you run over a protester because you are there to actually cape for white supremacist capitalism, then you're all good. Then it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:54 well, you know, I had a rough day. You stormed the Capitol. Here's a slap on the wrist. And again, I brought up how there's other judges who are like, why are y'all going so soft on these people yeah like they fucking straight up pulled up to the okay i don't know what the fuck's going on with y'all but as a judge i think this is
Starting point is 00:44:12 fucking weak yeah i mean the selfie like i was just thinking about the the guy taking the picture with the guy in the in the capitol on january 6th versus the person taking a video from their porch and during the protest they said go inside and then shot at them with rubber bullets so yeah which reminded me that was like it's funny because the last time i saw that was in east jerusalem like reminded me of palestinians too you know like yeah in their own homes, being shot at, go back inside, being shot at with rubber bullets, like from the police. I don't know. Our struggles are linked, y'all.
Starting point is 00:44:51 No, absolutely. And we even talk about how that in the same way, the same tools are being deployed against the protesters that they refine in Palestine and then bring to the U.S. Because they're like, oh yeah, it's been field tested on Palestinians. Yep. So go ahead, police departments, check these toys that we know we've cooked up for you. Good news. The FDA approved the Pfizer vaccine, which I didn't know we were waiting for. But apparently that makes it possible for companies and institutions to start mandating the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:45:22 The Pentagon has moved to immediately make the vaccine a requirement for all 1.4 million active duty service members, which I have to imagine that's going to be a big, you know, a big shift. United Airlines will make it a requirement for employees to show proof of vaccination within five weeks. I can't, I think this is the only way that we start making progress right I mean you know it's something it just feels like it just feels everything feels like a drop
Starting point is 00:45:54 in the bucket cause like my first thought would have been like wait we don't have our servicemen and our airline people vaccinated already like that's I thought we did that you know that was step one i thought that was step one it was just like you know and then you realize like i mean we've got so many people to go but that just feels like a drop in the bucket what
Starting point is 00:46:16 about all the millions of people who are either you know not able to get like easy access to the vaccine or the people who were just like you know they've been red-pilled by you know idiots online and just uh refuse to get it so i i don't know i mean i think it's a good first step yeah it feels like it makes it harder to like for someone to then be able to like you know reject it and keep their job because we saw you know amy coney barrett like ruled with on the side of of Indiana University to be like, no, they can mandate a vaccine for, like, students. Like, that's where I don't.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And have. We've been doing that for a long time. Yeah. I'm not getting involved with that. And, yeah, and this, I'm sure, just gives people, especially, you know, employers, more cover. And I think on some level, hopefully, right, there's,'s like a psychological effect where people will begin to embrace it. Because like we were saying earlier, the whole like, well, good luck taking an experimental vaccine. It's not even FDA approved.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Those are now those talking points are now moot. Because when you look at it, like the vaccine has been approved. They didn't change anything. They're like in the state that they've been giving it to people. We approve it. So it's not like they're hitting us with Pfizer 2.0, the fucking remix that's been FDA approved. But yeah, it is a curious thing because you'd hope that for people that were saying or so adamant about like, well, I'm just worried that it's not FDA approved. Like I can understand if you have a fear around it.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I can respect that. But if you then pivot to some other shit and you start bringing up George Soros, then I knew that was just cover this whole time. Because really, this is a philosophical thing that you're engaged in, not anything to do with like what the actual scientific knowledge is. Yeah. knowledge is yeah there's this thread from a doctor who just like kind of described how he deals with people who are vaccine hesitant and it was just it's kind of we'll link off to it in the footnotes but it's it just would it felt like something to aspire to because my experience with people who are vaccine hesitant i have not been patient it's so hard it's been very counterproductive though and like oh it's a little boy scared to get into picking me up oh poor you you're proving my point i do use a dumb guy voice
Starting point is 00:48:41 yeah yell ignorant at them. No, but he, so this doctor is like, okay, so first I say, talk to me. I'm happy to spend as much time with you as you need to discuss COVID and the vaccine, which like right there,
Starting point is 00:48:54 step one, that is the opposite of what I want to do is like spend a lot of time hearing somebody spit a bunch of like, you know, conspiracy theories that they read on Facebook back to me. But then he has like good data. He's saying over 95% of doctors got the vaccine as soon as it was available to them. If you focus on physicians who actually care for COVID patients, it's nearly 100%. And he's like, I'm vaccinated. My whole family is vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:49:22 We even got my 11 year old a fake id together no corners were cut in the development of these vaccines that's something you hear a lot that corner they cut corners just like that's the emergency authorization thing that they always talk about it was an emergency authorization and now hopefully well no that's yeah and he's also saying like only the only thing that was cut was red tape. They just like made it so that this was the top priority. Yeah. Don't you guys hate red tape? Isn't that part of your entire philosophy?
Starting point is 00:49:53 These guys are just like government bureaucrat, red tape, America, freedom, do the thing you want to do. And then it's like, oh, OK, they've they've cut all the red tape for this vaccine. Well, that's suspicious. Yeah. Why would you do that? What's really going on? What's really happening here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 He's just so patient. And your questions, skepticism are okay and need to be addressed. idea of that they're like one of the actually scientifically backed risks of the vaccine is myocarditis or heart muscle inflammation after the second dose to the tune of about 50 cases per million. But he points out that with COVID, like if they catch COVID, it's actually 500 to 3000 cases per million. So it's like not even close, which is the bigger risk. So it's like 500 to 3000 k's per million so it's like not even close which is the bigger risk so it's like i don't know he does a good job but he like acknowledges the one thing that like i understand if this is the thing that's making you hesitant like just take i understand like at first blush that makes sense to me that you would be like hesitant about that however
Starting point is 00:51:02 like if you just look at the data a little bit further and like actually stick with it, you'll see that that's not accurate. I understand people, you know, like having a hesitancy for like putting something in their body that they don't know what's in it and stuff like that. I understand that people have that. So it's like, there's some rational,
Starting point is 00:51:31 there's gotta be a way to talk to these people in a way that doesn't put them down and doesn't make them feel like dirt. And doesn't make it, because as soon as you put them down, they feel like it's, you know, it becomes part of the culture war. It's like it becomes an issue of like, oh, you know, that's just you and your, you know, liberal clowns making fun of us regular folks. So it's like you do need to try to be kind with it if you're in a position where you have to be. As someone who's not in a position where I have to convince anyone, I just have no patience at all for it. Just dunking on people. Yeah. I mean, especially since, like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Like, listen, I'm an ex-heroin addict. I put so much stuff. I don't even know what i put in my bloodstream like it was just like whatever the guy gave me i was like that's probably not gonna kill me immediately looks good yeah yeah oh is it brown oh good brown good color and then just directly into the bloodstream. So, you know, I don't fully understand the hesitancy, but, you hesitant, I definitely feel like I could add a little bit more of this sort of just patience and like understanding. Yeah. Understand. Because I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:53 like just generally across the board, like we're now back to a thousand like COVID deaths a day. It's like what we're all going through here is fucking, it's brutal. It's not psychologically healthy, but like it's there's we're going through a shared trauma. And I'm just going to try to have like compassion for like recognize that as I'm like getting like clenching my fists and getting ready to like scream. So that's why I feel like it's important to figure out if people are anti-vax or vaccine hesitant. like it's important to figure out if people are anti-vax or vaccine hesitant right because i think some people will use the language of anti-vaxxers and are actually just scared and i'd soon i have
Starting point is 00:53:32 more compassion to arrive at a conversation with someone where we just get to the point where it's like we're not gonna don't wave facts and figures in front of my face if you're not willing to get this vaccine because what you're talking about isn't the same thing as what i'm talking about if you're scared and this this movement has just given you a way to articulate your fear around it that's a completely separate issue and i have a little bit more to be like you know what that's fine i can work i can work with scared i can't work with angry and thinks they know more than fucking a hospital. That's yeah. Those are just completely different sort of planets that we're on.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And yeah, it's just that I guess I guess patients will work. But I mean, when you have a third of Republicans who are just still like, I'll never I don't give a fuck what it is, then you're still looking at some interesting outcomes. Yeah. Have you guys been watching any of Russell Brand's content recently? No. Is he? Yeah, it's exactly what you, like, without even thinking about it, you're like, ah, shit, I know exactly where he falls on this.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And someone posted a video of it, and he was doing a lot of, like, kind of hedging. He's not saying he's anti-vax or anything, but he's just like, I've got a lot of questions about myself. Hey, governor. I can't do his voice, but you know, he's like,
Starting point is 00:54:49 oh, you know, it's just, how come I say one thing and then Anthony Fauci says another thing? And I was like, ah, shit. Even if he's like just trying to be inquisitive, like it worries me about media figures sometimes who kind of fall
Starting point is 00:55:07 into like the wellness space because i'm like i i i think it behooves you and it behooves the rest of the world if you're in that wellness space as like a media figure to try to de-radicalize people rather than feed into their fears you know yeah because it's true there are things that the government you know fucked up and there are things that like you know vaccine efficacy may not be as perfect against delta as everyone thought it was going to be there's a lot of breakthrough cases but like your audience is ready for you to say some like you know crazy q anon shit about vaccines and sorrows you need to lead them away from that shit that's what that's what i think so russell if you're listening come on man do better yeah
Starting point is 00:55:52 yeah he is big he is that gang oh hell yeah he's trying to come on and we're like not rough sorry sorry leave it fam all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about kind of a big breakthrough for the vaccine when it comes to thought leaders. On the right, we got Trump and Mo Brooks talking, talking that sense doesn't doesn't seem like it's going over too well. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here, and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, and my pal Michael F. Florio
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Starting point is 01:00:39 very viral asking if you had to save three shows from being like you know memory hold from history just like taken wiped from the pages of history and like we they just never happened which of these nine would it be i'll just read through them the sopranos the walking dead game of thrones the wire boardwalk empire ozark prison break I did not see that one coming Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad so for me like
Starting point is 01:01:10 The Sopranos and The Wire so this is basically a question of like okay so with the remaining seven spots what's the one show that gets it
Starting point is 01:01:18 because The Sopranos and The Wire are like the best Sopranos, Wire I don't honestly like part of me
Starting point is 01:01:24 I guess I'm really angry at Game of Thrones I don't care if nobody remembers that shit right are the best. Sopranos, Wire. Honestly, part of me, I guess I'm really angry at Game of Thrones. I don't care if nobody remembers that shit. Right. And I feel like I would save... I mean, I would... God, can't Deadwood be in here? I know, Deadwood instead of... I'm like, why is Ozark in there?
Starting point is 01:01:39 I mean, Ozark's fine, but really, that's... I get Sons of Anarchy. I get Breaking Bad. Ozark seems like too much of a newcomer. And also too similar to Breaking Bad. Yeah. Yeah. Boardwalk, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I'm like, really? Boardwalk over Deadwood? Yeah. Or, I mean, I prefer Deadwood over Boardwalk, so. Yeah. Also, these shows are all like, kind of in the same. Genre. Yeah. I'm like, like kind of in the same genre. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I'm like, these are sort of the same show. Like if you take, honestly, I think you save Sopranos and you're going to have a list just as long of killer shows that come because the Sopranos existed. Right. Like, without the Sopranos, you would have none of these other shows, in my opinion. Because the Sopranos, like, changed TV forever. Like, the Sopranos is the reason TV has, like, a cinematic kind of feel to it now where you can sit down and you can watch hours and hours and hours of a show. I think The Sopranos and The Wire, the first four seasons of The Wire are like, could stand with any like American made movie, american novel like i think they are as good as any of that yeah yeah um i just don't feel sentimental for now dude i tried i couldn't i couldn't get past the first season of walking dead i only did i only watched because of frank
Starting point is 01:03:17 darabond was on the first yeah in the first season and i was like i don't i just and i used to be really into the zombie apocalypse, like college and stuff. That was, you know, when I was like this shit and people were like, yo man, you fuck, you like zombie apocalypse stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And I was like, yep, I got the survival guide. Oh, walking dead. Let's check it out. And then I slayed. I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:36 man, maybe this isn't for me. Because here's the thing. Walking dead is just the same day over and over and over again. Like I'm like, I'm like, it's not unlike living in a pandemic. You're just doing the same thing every day. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And it's exhausting. But, oh man, Sopranos. I've watched, I've probably watched that show five or six times, re-watched the entire thing. Wow. I'm like, it's just so good and i see something different about that show every time i watch it i used to have sex dreams about tony soprano okay it changed the game for me i was like i did not know that i was in a thick men like this or were you dr melfi like what was the context or you just i mean tony soprano's pulled up in that cadillac and you're like, oh.
Starting point is 01:04:25 The weirdest sex dreams I've ever had in my life. I literally, and it happens to every woman that watches it. Every straight woman that watches The Sopranos has a sex dream about Tony Soprano, whether they want to or not. He was on the subway in his disgusting bathrobe just waiting at the Union Square subway station. And I was just into it. He's just had his bathrobe open. And I was like, you're disgusting. He's like a pig. And you're like,
Starting point is 01:04:53 I fucking hate you. And then you're just like, I also would give it to you. You can get it. I don't know. It's really upsetting. It doesn't feel feminist. It doesn't feel feminist. It doesn't feel progressive. But God damn it if it's not the truth.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. I'm more of a Polly Walnuts sex dream guy myself. Where he's just repeating jokes to you over and over again. And he's clean. You know, like, I'm like, oh, wow, you're pretty tidy. Yeah. He is tidy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Except for the Pine barons episode so i for me it comes down to game of thrones or breaking bad and i think the ending of breaking bad i i'm definitely in the minority and that i think the ending of breaking bad was like as bad as the ending of game of thrones and if we still get better call saul like because that's not on the ending of Game of Thrones. And if we still get Better Call Saul, like, because that's not on the list of shows that gets wiped out of history, then I think you save Game of Thrones because it's, like, different. It's not similar to these other shows.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Like, it's a whole... Yeah, there's levels to this question that the options are just not acknowledging. Yeah. I feel like right you know they're basically like if you could pick three of these nine very similar shows it's not a hard decision is what i'm saying right like yeah yeah or but in my mind like to your point rosebud like where what the sopranos did to transform sort of prestige tv's almost like, what do you like? Oxygen molecules, water, a Pepsi can, a carbon molecule, a blanket or orange.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And you're like, honestly, without the oxygen or the carbon, none of this is possible anyway. So this conversation is moot. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But I will say Breaking Bad is a great show. But I got to that episode about the fly. And I was like, I'm done with this show.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I got so mad at that episode. It was like I've never been so infuriated by one episode of a show where I just went, I don't care. I don't know who was on vacation. But this episode is trash. And I was like, yeah, it's just infuriating when a show can do that to you though there's something magic about that because it's not often i feel like i'll rage quit a show i'm like are you fucking dumb you just did this to me you fucking writer assholes like that one season of dexter where uh who was it was it like Edward James almost was like look spoiler alert for I
Starting point is 01:07:26 don't know season five of Dexter or four when Edward James almost was a figment of homeboy's imagination the whole time I know I was I don't think that counts as a spoiler I think that counts as a favor you're doing somebody yeah yeah absolutely right but like that was just one of I had the same thing where I like, I fucking turned the TV off. I'm like, you guys are fucking so stupid. Yeah, I got so mad. It reminds me of like, there's a therapist that I follow on Instagram that I've been taking advice from. Like, just for like, two years now, I'm just like, God, everything she says is so genius.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And then she like, came out as as like she's in a three-person monogamous relationship the other day and i was like fuck this lady like i was like i can't god damn it my friend and i were like texting about it and i was like this feels like a knife to my heart i've just been i've just been taking every word she says as like pure wisdom and truth. And now I'm like, oh, OK, everything's a lie. Yeah. All right. And finally, let's just tell them NASA has weighed in on the length of the perfect power nap, which is I don't know. This seemed very short to me.
Starting point is 01:08:44 But then again, I am constantly tired. It's NASA. Okay. So if they know anything, I like, they're like, yeah, they know about the things that happens to the human body and how to kind of work around that because space, because yeah, you know, getting tired in the, like our circadian rhythms, like there are points where we're going to get tired like twice per day. Like it just happens. Some people can push through it. Other people like, you know, that's why five hour energy exists. But so like, you know, everyone's like, what's 20 minutes an hour? How do you get that little bit of sleep that can actually help you?
Starting point is 01:09:15 And according to NASA, they said we found that pilots who slept in the cockpit for 26 minutes showed alertness improvements of up to 54% and job performance improvements by 34% compared to those that didn't nap. But they say 26 minutes actually could be long. They are thinking that between 10 and 20 minutes is enough to get you into like these first two stages of your sleep cycle that give you like this sort of restorative rest. But in my mind, I could never, i don't know how to take a fucking 10 minute nap i just don't like i don't have the skills to like set a timer you know like you know because right have you ever tried to take like a power nap like and you know you're like fuck i only have like 30 minutes yeah but then half the time i'm like thinking of how i
Starting point is 01:10:00 have to wake up in 30 minutes that i'm not actually able to take that nap. So more than anything, I'm asking, how do you all even take a fucking power nap? Yeah. 20 minutes. Like, what are the strategies? I've never taken a nap that wasn't an accident. I have never in my life taken a nap on purpose. Like, I have fallen asleep in places, but not on purpose. I'm just not.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Like when I was in high school, you know, like puberty and like you just have to sleep so much because your body is like a fucking wreck. I would come home from school and I would sleep for like an hour and a half minimum. But like that was in my mind. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm like, I got to sleep. Like and I would have to do like, you know, other extra like like I was in jazz band, all kind of orchestras and shit. It's like, fuck, I got to get some fucking sleep before this other thing. But it would have to be at least an hour for me to like be able to kind of get into it. But, you know, listeners, how do you, how do you prepare for a 10 minute nap?
Starting point is 01:10:56 How Jack, I know you, cause like when we, when we're on the road and there's times like when we're, there's a little bit of a gap between like when we check into a place and they're like then we got to go sound check or something right like yeah i gotta i gotta take a quick nap i'm like in 35 minutes yeah i was i was hoping that the answer was gonna be four to five hours is the ideal time for a nap no yeah sometimes just like closing your eyes but you're right like trying to do it less than 26 minutes is just too much on a knife's edge. Like I feel like that's for people who like have a power down button on their body that they can just hit and like immediately go to sleep or like for the people from Inception. Like you just like immediately or I guess drug users. That's what the people in Inception essentially were. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yeah. I don't i that seems to like i do i know there are people like that who are just like nap and nap time go yeah and can fall asleep i'm not yeah yeah yeah yeah but my husband does that every day he comes home from work takes a nap and then yeah goes out and does. I'm like, whoa, that is impressive. That is impressive. Maybe we're just like sleep gluttons, you know, where we're like, I'm sorry. Like 10. OK, NASA.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Right. Yeah. 90 minutes, fam. And I don't care if I wake up in the middle of it and I'm groggy and shit. You know what? I'm not even going to blame us for that. I'm going to blame NASA because I think they're working too hard. Yeah, that's true. I'm not saying that they need to relax i think they should keep it up but
Starting point is 01:12:29 just like yeah we're not all operating at nasa levels that's right yeah yeah but we aspire to maybe nasa needs to fucking relax now we're like i'm really worried about the nasa pilots actually this is what they're doing to them. I mean, you talk about pilots rights. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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