The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 199 (Best of 10/25/21-10/29/21)

Episode Date: October 31, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:54 No, what's that? We've talked about little else, to be honest. Wait, hold on. No, Jack, don't play around. We've never heard of it. Okay. Mano, what is it? What is this?
Starting point is 00:03:03 What is it? Some kind of new technique for cooking? Oh, kind of. Sous vide? No, I'm fucking with you. It's boning sous vide. We're all in on soca. You're actually 100% correct, my man.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So I was talking to someone who was ex-Mormon, and she was telling me about soaking. she was telling me about soaking yeah and my understanding and you can look up we can look up more in it soaking because some people believe that sex is the in and out of the penis in the person so some people to stay holy and good with jesus and all the people upstairs just put the penis in and let it soak let it ride yeah like a fucking tea bag like uh like uh let's just oh and the woman's soaking soaking oh yeah i know we're up on in the jump pumping and everything you're in on soaking do you know about the jump pumping nope oh oh someone jumps on the bed so it can move yes you get a little motion but it's not your fault you're not the one who's doing the
Starting point is 00:04:09 thrusting yeah what's this is there a sin of the jump pumper like as like a pornographer or something like a facilitator of sin you know what i mean yeah i guess people don't think that deep because at the end of the day they're like we're just trying to literally get it in and leave it in. Guys, just let go. You know, we're all animals. There's nothing evil about wanting to put your private shit on couches and holes. Just live your fucking life. If you're already soaking, you're doing sex.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. Right. life if you're already soaking you're doing sex right yeah right this is yeah that's what i the whole time that for the last three weeks when we couldn't stop stop talking about it it's just true you know the jig is up yeah jig is up and it's funny because you watch 90 day right marna yeah here and there it's like i always yeah yep okay start it and then i get sad and i stop so there was this guy there's a guy this season who's mormon and he was like he was basically doing this whole thing where he was just like i mean i've been sexually active but i didn't have like sex sex till i was like 23 and like when i even like looking at him he's like and it's just so great he's like i don't know what to do he like, going back to abstinence is like having candy and then having to eat vegetables after.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And this dude is still very devout and like lying to his like fiance that he's like a virgin. But he's not, you know. Just get in the hot damn it. Awful. Awful. It's kind of the opinion that if you're just really bad at sex then you aren't technically having sex it seems like is the i is the philosophy there religious boys ruined my life like in college especially but like because you know like i was red i was out and ready to bone pretty early in
Starting point is 00:05:59 college i was like let's get weird and I kept finding these fucking religious closet cases. And one time in particular, I got slammed drunk. I was like, we're this is going to happen is going to be wonderful. And we get naked, and we're in a bed together. And like, literally, at that moment, the person was like, I can't do this. This is wrong. This is religiously wrong. And I'm like, okay, awesome. And they're like, you should leave. And I was like, okay, awesome. I'm slammed on top of this night being such a bust.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So yeah, man, religion ruins everything fun. Yeah, yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Ooh, you're going to hate me for this. French fries. Mm-hmm. I like them, but y'all are obsessed. Like, they're great.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Like, they're fun. They're good. But I think most times, God, people are going to really kill me. I eat about, it's like M&M's to me. Like you have a couple and you're like, okay, I'm good. I'm good. I get it. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I can move on. That is not my experience with M&M's. French fries are definitely something that fills you up quick. I feel like they're like pancake light in the sense that they expanding your stomach a little bit yeah but i i kind of agree that like french fries are good when they're really good but a lot of the time like they they're not one they're not like pizza where even bad pizza is pretty good like bad french fries fucking suck they're just like yeah i agree potato sex yeah or they're like really cold and
Starting point is 00:07:46 shitty they're and they're bricks and then you're putting bricks in your body it's like guys guys right isn't good yeah it's it's i mean i think it's also just like one of these things now too where it's just easy to make so like whenever we see it i feel like my like my love of fries starts from being a kid when i'm like oh yes fries and i'm like i'll just eat fries with anything and then as i get older though now till i'm like how much salt is in this yeah and i'm like how much how much deep fried shit is this yeah okay oh okay yeah yeah i guess i'll just go with a salad. Yeah. You know, like, but yeah, at the end of the day, I definitely, I'm not as, I'm not as like rabid of a fry person as I, as I once was. But, you know, I enjoy them here and there. I like them. I like them.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I think they're usually, they're usually also put on as like a consolation when like the sandwich can be pretty bad. But they're like, well, guess what? We're going to give you way too many fries. So you have to feel like this whole adventure is worth it. I think that's also a thing that annoys me where you're like, no, this is just more not good fries. This sucks. Yeah. I think that exact sentence is written on a like strategy board in the McDonald's headquarters. Yes. The sandwich can suck, but we've nailed fries and give them way too many of them. And you are a Taco Bell fan,
Starting point is 00:09:10 enthusiast, right? I am. I'm a Stan. I'm a Stan. You know, that tracks. That's the one thing that I think people complain about when it comes to Taco Bell. The one and only thing
Starting point is 00:09:20 that they're allowed to complain about is that they don't have fries. Yeah, not the immediate Ria. Not that. Don't complain about is that they don't have fries yeah not the immediate ria not that don't complain about that but yeah uh did you guys try that chicken sandwich taco thing that they just made no tell me it was so good it was so it was so good i chicken sandwich taco it was like it was just i don't even it was just a piece of fried chicken in like a soft bread that you know was like scientifically made soft by the greatest minds in america right with some yeah with some orange mayo goop and it was incredible yeah is the i thought you were talking about the
Starting point is 00:10:01 taco bell creation that was like the the bun was the chicken. Wasn't that a thing where they had a taco shell that is made of chicken that I I couldn't bring myself to think about trying. But there are also chicken chips, too, that they cut into triangles like flattened out triangles. Yeah. You know, I could have caught not for me yeah yeah not for me i love i love i love how weird they go i love how uh they they always i don't know i feel like i eat and i'm like yes this was actually good this was actually good all right let's talk about ron desantis greg abb, the conservative shitbag off that we have been waiting for continues just going toe to toe on who can be the shittiest governor in America.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And Ron is making some serious moves. Yeah, he's making kissy face at the anti-vax crowd because he's letting people know, you know, over the weekend, he announced that I want to make this place a haven for unvaccinated cops and first responders. I want them to know that Florida is a place that will accept them and accept them with arms wide COVID. And this dude, just listen to his plan. and this dude, just listen to his plan. He announces his really awesome incentive plan to bring anti-vax to Florida, and how cool he is. Well, first, I think it's important to point out, on a scientific basis, most of those first responders have had COVID and have recovered,
Starting point is 00:11:38 so they have strong protection, and so I think that influences their decision on a lot of this, that they have already had it and recovered, And so they're making no accommodations for that. They're still pretending like that doesn't even exist. And so that's really, really troubling when you see that. But I can tell you, Maria, in Florida, not only are we going to want to protect the law enforcement and all the jobs, we're actually actively working to recruit out-of-state law enforcement because we do have needs in our police and our sheriff's departments so in the next legislative session i'm going to hopefully sign legislation that gives a five thousand dollar bonus to any out-of-state law enforcement that relocates in florida so nypd minneapolis seattle if you're not being treated
Starting point is 00:12:18 well uh we'll treat you better here you can fill important needs for us and we'll compensate you as a result hell yeah oh sick dude yeah i don't want to call desantis a hero but wow what a magnet get these cops out of here i feel like the best thing to do is some other space needs to be like black and brown citizens of florida will offer you five thousand dollars to escape like come up here you know everything is up from florida so wherever that means to you like come up here we'll give you a little money like you don't have to worry about it you can help build beautiful communities away from what you've been thinking about leaving anyway honestly yeah you're black and brown florida you've contemplatedated it. He's done it all with that little soundbite there. He came out swinging with a debunked myth that anyone who has COVID is already immune.
Starting point is 00:13:11 No need for a vaccine. Because you've already got it. Yeah. Why are they so scared of the vaccine then? If they've already had it and the vaccine is... I mean, even he's had the vaccine. Right. And it's this like really just in your face doublespe speak that no one in the base is willing to confront.
Starting point is 00:13:30 They're like, but Donald Trump, all y'all are vaccinated. But then saying don't. So where does that put me? Am I a pawn in this game? I don't know. Maybe. But yeah, he goes off with that myth. Then he really just truly wants to make himself the patron saint of anti-vaxxers and Florida be the church in that, like, you know, just saying come come through because I'll who was giving $500 to people to get to workers who got vaccinated. So this time he's like, I'll give you $5,000 to not get vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Leave your job and come here. Still haven't signed the bill yet, so don't move immediately. But it's also you're like, wow, you can just find $5,000 for a group of people just like that, huh? Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Interesting. What would that do to a state if just all the, first of all, cops, second of all, the ones who refuse to get vaccinated,
Starting point is 00:14:36 like all moved to a single state? Yeah. That would be, I mean, there's that Stallone movie Copland that just paints a picture of, you know, a paradise, a utopia of just cops living with cops, running everything. And maybe there's a little corruption, but, you know, it's worth it because you get to be with cops. Yeah. I mean, you know, he's he's definitely trying to put together his like infinity stones for reelection. He's like, I've got racists. I've got some MAGA people. I'm about to collect the anti-vax stone and then I'll need QAnon and I will make a mighty fist to swing through my reelection. swing through my reelection the most unaccountable people in the country you know cops who who get mad when you even watch a video of them unjustifiably murdering someone and ask what
Starting point is 00:15:36 they were doing and then the ones who refuse to get the vaccine on top of that is what what a boost to to the state of florida can you imagine a ton of people just move me like bankrupts the state they're like oh fuck man well not everybody at once oh shit okay so we don't have 5 000 but here here's a here's a little gift card to publics plus i feel like every cop wants to end up in florida anyway like i feel like he might be you know he might be in the best lives right whether mi like he might be, you know, he might be in David. Vice best lives. Right. Whether Miami vice best lives
Starting point is 00:16:08 or, you know, there's a lot of cops who go down there and retire. I don't know. Right. Just seems like he's gonna, he's gonna, there's gonna be a lot of takers.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That's already, you can see that New York Times piece. These unvaccinated police officers moved to Florida in hopes of attaining their Miami Vice dreams. What they found was the opposite. What they found will shock you.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Please read. These are humans, too. The Virginia governor's race is a dead heat. This feels like one of those stories. I've seen it a lot of places. I have not let it in to this point enough to like start caring or following it. But it seems like maybe I have to. I feel like the guys at Crooked Media would really want me to give a shit about this race. They're going to tell you why it's going to predict everything that's going to happen for the next two years politically, which a lot of people are going all in on that take. A lot of people are going all in on that take.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But yeah, I mean, it's an it's an it's an interesting state. It's purple. And also, you know, the governor there has been trying to do the best by the people while you also have a challenger who comes in and is trying to do the walking the fine line of like being MAGA. But because it's not a full blown red state, like you got to kind of be like, I mean, I don't agree with Steve Bannon. I just like some of his ideas type shit. Yeah. And, you know, messaging can like make or break a campaign. And Youngkin, who is running
Starting point is 00:17:32 against Terry McAuliffe, he may have found a winning message, you know, as I said, to win over, especially the even keeled independence in the suburbs. As we noticed, that's something the GOP is very concerned about. We don't want to turn off independence in the suburbs because they're concerned parents who are deeply invested in their children's futures and they're not always into just full-blown racism and dog whistling. So when they hear about this mother's story and how she was just absolutely just destroyed by the policies of Terry McAuliffe. I have a feeling that people are going to be voting Youngkin. So I just want to play this clip just so you can understand. And just when you're listening to this woman speak, imagine someone who claims to have had an immaculate
Starting point is 00:18:15 conception with the ghost of Stonewall Jackson. That's kind of her vibe. As a parent, it's tough to catch everything. So when my son showed me his reading assignment, my heart sunk. It was some of the most explicit material you can imagine. I met with lawmakers. They couldn't believe what I was showing them. Their faces turned bright red with embarrassment. They passed bills requiring schools to notify parents when explicit content was assigned. It was bipartisan.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It gave parents a say. The option to choose an alternative for my children. I was so grateful. But then Governor Terry McAuliffe vetoed it twice. He doesn't think parents should have a say. He said that. He shut us out glenn he listens he understands parents matter join me in voting for glenn yunkin okay so you heard it right oh my god my child brought home a book and the things contained within.
Starting point is 00:19:26 First, I want to say, any guesses on how old the child was? Six. Eleven. Eleven? Okay. The kid was in a high school senior AP English lit class. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And the book, any guesses here? Had to be an AP English. English lit. Okay. Canterbury Tales. Okay, that's one. Okay, interesting. Moby Dick dick i don't know it was tony morrison's beloved are you fucking kidding me yes that's what she was so omg gasp my jaws on the floor because we're hearing about this story that's based on you know a terrible tale about this woman who had escaped slavery and was being brought back
Starting point is 00:20:05 to bondage and was like trying to do anything she could to avoid that. That's the fucking book that this lady is talking about. They were talking about Toni Morrison's beloved. She has been now this didn't happen recently. She had began this campaign against the book in 2013. Being like, I don't know, like my child. child and she would say my child has nightmares because of this book i read it it's a pretty powerful book and again you're in a class that's meant to be college level when you're in an ap class so yeah you're gonna start reading things that aren't just fucking you know indian in the cupboard or something and so yes this is the the outrage that glenn yunkin is trying to be like okay let me keep it super vague and just keep it that like this spooky, haunted Confederate ghost lady was just just shocked that her child had to hear about the brutality of chattel slavery.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's that's unbelievable. Yeah. And it does suggest because it is like notably vague you i guess i guess it does paint a picture in your mind because you're like oh it must be just you know hardcore fucking like whatever right right what is you know what what exactly is is happening here that's and it's a pulitzer prize winning like universally acknowledged work of genius yeah hell yeah but i mean i think it speaks to sort of like just in general what conservatives are all on about right because it's all critical race theory and these things of just being like we can't keep like making people aware
Starting point is 00:21:39 of our past that's just too much so we need to do everything we can to try and just put a sheet over it and then just keep moving and say, that's just some other thing that happened. Eyes ahead. Eyes ahead. Yeah. You're going to want to cut some eye holes in the sheet too, just to. Yeah, yeah, of course. And so you know where you're right.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Head all pointy at the top. Yeah. You don't want your torch to like catch other stuff on fire. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think that's a vague thing that i think if most people learned what the this woman was speaking about they're like what the fuck like okay most people if they took that class if i had to read that book and people don't have nightmares it's funny because people looked checked up on on her son
Starting point is 00:22:20 he's he's fine he had a wedding announcement in the new york times a couple years ago so i think he's gotten over his tony morrison induced nightmares that's a very specific type of person who has a wedding announcement in the new york times too so he's yeah yeah yeah yeah hell yeah that is amazing and what why is this such an important race like just catch me up on why i should have been paying attention to this. happening to see if people are going to back a Democrat or if they start to see some support slip towards Republicans. It's just it's just the thing to just for people for wonks to try and sweat over. You know, some people argue it's like not as important, but this is this is like the horse racification of politics. So like every single like, no, this one, man, you got to pay
Starting point is 00:23:21 attention because I was saying before the the recall with Gavin Newsom isn't really an accurate depiction of what's happening in the state or in national politics. That was a group of Republicans trying to sort of game the system of recalling a governor to try and get someone else in more so than like, what do the people think of Democrats and Republicans at this moment? Right. Yeah. I mean, just like from a narrative standpoint in the mainstream media, it seems like the two major narratives are like Biden's approval is like in the shitter,
Starting point is 00:23:54 but like the Republicans are still fucked. So it's like almost like, so this gives them an opportunity to be like one is less fucked than the other one, I guess. Yeah. Or maybe it's like, do people care that there's nothing on the agenda actually being accomplished? Does that still warrant support? I don't know. I mean, it's just a very strange moment as like most people who are like living in the harsh reality of America, like things need to happen.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And then on the Hill, it it's like i don't know should we tax billionaires is that popular i mean it's certainly not popular with my donors but from that perspective like would it be better if a republican won so that the democrats like got scared enough to actually i don't know i mean everything's so reactionary i i don't yeah either way like i'm like i don't have much confidence in this just general political system we have in this country to begin with. So it's like, I don't know. Sure. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah. But I could also see them being like, see, this is why we went too far left. Right. You know, there's always that. There's always that logic, too. Well, I will withhold my donation to Youngkin for now. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll
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Starting point is 00:28:56 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the second pipe dream of America, the one that's in second place between giving dogs free guns, is the idea that one day we might be able to tax the rich and use that money
Starting point is 00:29:22 to help the rest of the country. And it's actually being discussed right now how's that going miles it's a huge part of the agenda and no one no one's fucking on board with anything these democrats so joe manchin recently made it clear that he is he's hearing about this new thing like taxing billionaires he's like oh i got concerns about that i don't know i don't know about targeting people as he said okay because it's the 700 wealthiest individuals in the country i just wonder his actual quote around it because he's omg very scared quote i don't like it i don't like the connotation that we're targeting different people that's a very interesting statement.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And, you know, we have Kyrsten Sinema, who has told, I think we discussed lobbyists out loud to their face straight up. I will. I'm not interested in raising taxes on corporations and things like that. But there seems to be some movement because Senators Wyden, Warren and King have introduced two bills to help pay for a potentially transformational agenda. And I say potentially because like anything that starts out as a bill being introduced can be completely stripped away down to absolute nothing, or it'll get held up in courts where they will have to redefine things like income or accountants can just find even better loopholes. But putting that aside, let's pretend that for this moment of positivity, that this could potentially go through the way it is. So the first bill is aimed at taxing the
Starting point is 00:30:56 wealthiest companies who, you know, they've been afforded the luxury of an absolutely nonsense tax code that allows them to basically pay nothing on their profits. So what this bill specifically would do would apply to companies that report more again. So before you start grasping your small business pearls, we're talking about companies who have been generating more than a billion dollars in profits each year. This is who we're talking about, the super wealthy companies. And this is over a three-year period and would impose an across-the-board 15% tax rate on those profits. Now, when you consider things like Amazon, how they effectively pay less than 5% on their profits through all the legal fuckery and tax trickery, going to 15% I think would be a pretty good place to start and so that's sort of the first dimension
Starting point is 00:31:45 is to go after companies the second is to go at individual earners and this is where joe mansion doesn't like the idea of just singling people out like the 700 wealthiest fucking americans in the country well it might hurt their feelings that hurts people's feelings i know and and listeners and i'm sure you i'm sure all the listeners know someone like this we all have a friend who makes more than a hundred million dollars per year and they have more than one billion dollars in assets for three straight years we get that we're like dude that's my neighbor right relax on relax on this guy so this thing would essentially be like look this is who we really need to make sure are paying the fucking taxes.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It would require them to give the IRS a detailed account of how much of the assets they own or gain lost each year. It's called mark to market, apparently, in lingo terms. So the way that we talked before about how they avoid is that a lot of their money is tied up in stocks, right? And so they just keep it in the stock markets and in real estate, and then they don't have to pay taxes like the rest of us. But they can borrow against the fact
Starting point is 00:32:56 that they have $300 billion, you know? Right. That they'll still get any loan at the best possible rate, which enables them to just have basically unlimited money. Isn't that the that's the funniest excuse I've ever heard. Like, I can't be all my money's tied up in stocks. I don't know what I'm going to do. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's like, oh, I can't pay taxes. All my money's in my pocket. What do you want me to get it out there? Oh, right. I didn't even use it. Someone took all my money and put it in stocks i don't know how i'll ever i don't know what i'm gonna do right and because you're not paying capital gains until they're realized right until you sell your stocks or you sell your real estate that's when capital gains come in so again like you're saying, you need some fun money, some funny, fun, fun money to go fucking P-jet around and fuck the earth over and spend your luxurious
Starting point is 00:33:51 lifestyle. You just take loans out against your already massive wealth. And then now you can take the interest payments that you from that loan to offset any other income taxes that you would have. So it's just a fucking, it's a beautiful setup. And the way the really the easy way to sort of put this into perspective is right, because they're able to do these things like say, I parked my money in the stock market, so I don't have to pay anybody fucking anything. And it just chills there. For example, in 2018, the top 25 individual earners in the United States were over worth over $1 trillion. It would take over 14 million, just wage earning Americans, not to say that you're on hourly wages, but people
Starting point is 00:34:31 who aren't just like hyper wealthy, 14 million, over 14 million, just normal people to create that wealth to get to $1.1 trillion. Now, the tax bill for wage earners was $143 billion from those people, from just the wage earners in the United States. The personal federal tax bill for the top 25, $1.9 billion. Because of all these loopholes to exploit. And we wonder why, like, all these, we have no money for, like, you know, transformational programs because we're more and more accommodating class of people to find ways to just keep their money very safe. So, again, this would be a very interesting move forward because I think it'll force, I'm sure people find new loopholes, but to not engage in at least the beginning of trying to lock this thing down and try and get a handle on income inequality or just inequality in general. Yeah. We got to stop calling them loopholes. That's a cutesy name for a evil crime.
Starting point is 00:35:36 You're lying. You're a shit. What are you doing? It's a loophole. Hey, come on. Look what I found. It's a loophole. Loopy loop. Hey, come on. Look what I found. A loop. It's just like, stop.
Starting point is 00:35:48 People are dying. A loop-de-doo. People are starving and sleeping on the street. Just because of all the little IRS taxi loopies? No. No. People in my community aren't dying because of lack of reason. Just because of my little loopies?
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's a little loophole. Come on. I didn't put the loophole there. And I think, and we saw through the Pandora papers just exactly how this is all working. Like there's so much wealth out there that is not being taxed and they're laughing their asses off because it's so easy to get. It's not even hard to do because we're not even taking the initiative to be like okay we're not gonna it can't be this easy it has to be just slightly easy yeah dude i
Starting point is 00:36:32 got bumped up to first class for the first time a couple weeks ago on a flight and uh let me tell you i've never been so mad at rich people the fact this is just their life all the time yeah yeah pay your taxes you get to fly first class it's the nicest thing that's ever happened to me well then it's also like whenever you think about like oh i remember the time i got upgraded on an international flight i thought i was the fucking claw from toy story was coming to take me away like a promise like yes please and when you go there i'm like i'm like shit yeah i'm in the fucking seat that cost thirty five hundred dollars for a one-way ticket to and then you look around and
Starting point is 00:37:12 you're like i'm like almost want to like rob the person next to me bro you pay thirty five hundred dollars this the fuck are you doing let me run your fucking pockets real quick it's also it also it's like kind of does your head in in that sense too because you you'll be in the proximity of like you're just like holy shit man this is a different reality it's like i spend these people spend thousands of dollars to just even go to like new york and i'm like where's the fucking update alert when i can get it for like 200 yeah right and what are you doing okay if flying to new york and for a thousand bucks is nothing. And what are you doing? Okay. If flying to New York and for a thousand bucks is nothing to you, what are you making in New York?
Starting point is 00:37:47 They're about to go to New York and like, right. Burn down an entire neighborhood for, for Raytheon or whatever evil people do. Cause man, that's crazy to me. I test crowd disbursement technology. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Get off my back. So I work for the people. I work with people. That's what I do. Yeah, just finding out specific people's pain points and working through those. Huh?
Starting point is 00:38:19 I create terror weapons and evil carceral technologies. Yeah. I invented waterboarding in 1996. Yeah. Kind of a goof with me and my frat brothers. And one of them ended up at the CIA and asked if he could kind of pay me for the intellectual property on that. And yeah, now I'm here. What percentage of CIA torture techniques came like
Starting point is 00:38:45 directly in a pipeline from yale frat hazing like i'm almost positive it's like mostly just skull and bones shit that they're like oh remember that time when we did that to bushy yeah so like remember that time we we got that al-qaeda cell and then we put them in that cia black site interrogation room put an eight ball of cocaine on the table and said you don't come out till this is done and then we interrogated them yeah they were all over the place huh so i like this story just made me like because the outrage isn't there like the it doesn't feel like we're mad enough about just the overall state of like how little these assholes pay. And I wonder if like one of the things that we've talked about
Starting point is 00:39:33 that is unique about the American tax system is that like, we have to do the taxes like in other countries, they just send you a bill and they're like, hey, we figured out how much you owe. This is what you owe. So just send us a check. on us so that we have to do it and i'm just wondering if they do that so that when like the subject of taxation comes up we're like our brain just turns off we're just like fuck like or we're also like more empathetic to other people who have to pay taxes like paying taxes is such an awful thing that we're just like yeah don, don't, don't tax them more. Like that's, that's mean taxing taxes bad, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Like it, cause it doesn't make sense other than just that turbo taxes, like lobbying them. But like, I feel like that, like the, the way that we'll never get Medicare or Medicare for all, because they,
Starting point is 00:40:43 you know, like being able to make people feel like they die if they left their job like that's you know i think there's like psychological conveniences at work in a lot of the shit that they do that kind of keeps the system in place that's one thing that's so weird was to figure out where you're like oh i if i don't work i'll die right i'll starve and then i'll die yeah no go ahead and leave your job and then you won't have health insurance and you could die and in dying bankrupt your family and all future generations we know we got to have taxes so they've they've managed to convince people okay we need
Starting point is 00:41:25 taxes who should we get it from the people with money or the people without it and they've actually convinced people like no the people without it should pay not the people i'm a job creator yeah let me take it from you like what how how do we not take it from the rich guy what do we do it they're like a thousand bucks to someone who makes like a, you know, 40 K a year. That's nothing to take away from them. But then if I got to pay a million bucks, that's so much money. Are you serious? Think about that. Don't, and don't think of it as being a proportion of my overall wealth either.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Just a million dollars objectively as a numbers too high. Stupid. Not doing it. All right. Well, I do want to move on to talking about will smith lyrics again no uh talking about this uh tucker carlson documentary that's coming our way uh the beginning of next week its central thesis is that january 6th was a false flag you know if it was a false flag they'd probably loot it from right it's like i'll just kind of
Starting point is 00:42:29 go through uh it's so that people don't have to watch it but it's got like the it says the true story behind one six the war on terror 2.0 and the plot against the people. They're so bad at titles. Yeah. That is such a long title. It opens with like a militant drum roll and says the domestic war on terror is here. It's coming after half of the country. And Carlson then is heard saying, the helicopters have left Afghanistan and now they're landed here at home.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then a woman says, false flags have happened in this country, one of which may have been January 6th. And it ends with the battle hymn, the Civil War battle hymn. So I think you know what they're getting at there. Yeah. Also, I think,
Starting point is 00:43:21 is Ali Alexander going to be on Tucker Carlson that day, too? Like, I think he's in the documentary, but I think he might also be talking with Carlson. But, you know, he's one of the he's the dude who, you know, obviously got a lot of attention in the Stop the Steal build up. And a lot, you know, he's just sort of he's just a right wing grifter, basically, and was and was just using this to fundraise and get money. But he was the one who had that tweet that when everyone was like, okay, the tone has changed when he said he was willing to give his life to stop this deal or whatever the fuck. And a lot of people point out, it's like, of course, you're going to have this person on because, A, by making this a false flag, you can try and negate or introduce some narrative about a false flag you'll negate anything the committee finds and try and get that out of voters minds and also if you're if you're ali alexander who has a lot of responsibility in
Starting point is 00:44:16 organizing it you'd probably want something out there even like well it wasn't me it was a false flag like there's just a lot of like the it's it's this is a very useful thing to start pushing if they're gonna because they again at every turn have to counteract like what people just saw with their bare eyes yeah they're you know they're this is them openly courting the q anon far right like white supremacist terrorists movement and basically being like these are american citizens it's like yeah so it's timothy fucking mcveigh man like what are you talking about they also claim that conservatives are being left to rot in guantanamo bay which is a bizarre and
Starting point is 00:44:57 made up claim also like and i love the fucking the mental compartmentalization that has to happen, because for that to have any to move a conservative person, you have to, on one hand, acknowledge that Guantanamo Bay is just a fucking hellscape for a human being to be in. Well, that's for brown people. That's not for us. That's not for that. No, exactly. But that's American. You know what I mean? No, exactly. But that's American. You know what I mean? That's what is the most infuriating aspect of just people on the right with how they are. They weaponize things that are actually being used against other people. It's just so frustrating how they victimize themselves. So it does acknowledge like the tools of oppression, but then they flip it, you know, and it's completely illogical. It's just like, it just bothers me so much that they do that.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And that not only you said like Alexander was a grifter, but it's so many of those people on that side are grifters. Like Tucker Carlson promoting, and everybody at Fox News promoting like anti-vax rhetoric while being vaccinated for the show. You know what I mean? Like that's like the evil aspect of it that just bothers me so much because it's been shown that people don't care about hypocrisy when it comes to like campaigning and and all of and calling people out and stuff people just don't care about hypocrisy it's not something that motivates them and that's the thing that they capitalize on
Starting point is 00:46:21 because they know that yeah it's just like so bothersome it's also wild that this is going to be let sort of like loose change a documentary a counter narrative about an event that happened almost entirely on live tv like yeah we we kind of got the the gist from the fact that there were cameras there everywhere and you know but i think i think that initial reaction that like how could anyone take this seriously is similar to the initial idea that the internet was going to make people better at finding the truth rather than just better at finding whatever truth they want to find because there's just there's a an embarrassment of riches in terms of just you know there's probably there's so much footage taken by all
Starting point is 00:47:11 of the people at that like who were there on january 6th and like you know cutting all of that down into a convincing like 30 minute package of stuff happening that seems weird or doesn't look quite right will be like super possible what's really weird though it's like the argument that i found there were comedians at that insurrection by the way there were comedians there and their arguments that i've seen was like and which other people have made as well was uh but we were like in the peaceful part and it's like you be like you being around a drum circle or whatever the fuck you think that is is does not negate the fact that people rushed into
Starting point is 00:47:52 the capitol and then our senators had to hide in bathrooms and shit because they were afraid they were gonna get like people were in full gear with zip ties and you being near like playing hacky sack which i doubt you were you know doesn't negate the fact that that actually happened and you were there and a part of it and it's a weird thing too because it's like it's this weird cred thing too that you'll see with conservatives where half the time they'll be like i was there on j where you you weren't even there right you don't know what happened and it's like but then be like i thought it was a false flag it's like well there were some people there that were doing the right thing and you's like but then be like i thought it was a false flag it's like well there were some people
Starting point is 00:48:25 there that were doing the right thing and you're like well which is it are you pumping your dick up because you were there or is it is it all bullshit and none of what you saw is real because you're doing all this double speak is this it's it's grating and like you're saying just overall with this whole thing we're looking at so many levels where america again is unwilling to have a reckoning with it's like white supremacy issue at every level like whether it's this and be like well fuck man like we can't we can't just have it be accepted that this was all based on like the fear of a less white america that's get this out there that's a false flag you see it play out in just with the trials that are coming up with the killers of Ahmaud Arbery or fucking Kyle Rittenhouse or the fucking other.
Starting point is 00:49:10 You know, all the there's the Charlottesville organizers like we have judges being like, oh, witness is a loaded word for the people. Kyle Rittenhouse killed victims or victims. I'm sorry, Whitney. A victim is a loaded word. And alleged victims is like too close but said rioters and looters and arsonists is okay even though they're used yeah by the defense it's ridiculous then looking at things like in the charlottesville thing asking jurors if they think negatively about nazis and if they do they can't serve in the jury yeah because you're
Starting point is 00:49:42 trying to both sides really nazism like you can't have an object and all this is saying is we can't live in a reality where objectively white supremacy or racism is actually bad and there's no there's no explaining your way out of it but then simultaneously they won't identify as such like right they they don't like being called that but then they are able to defend it. But you need a fair trial where you don't have jurors who think anti-black racism is bad because then that'll bias them against an anti-black racist. Somebody murdered somebody over. Yeah. The thing that is super infuriating about the Carlson documentary is it seems like the thing what one of the thousands of things that's super infuriating about this documentary is that fox news is the arbiter of or the representation the the main source of information for the group of people who have generated every panic like every moral panic
Starting point is 00:50:41 over the last 100 150 years in America. And they are claiming that America is in the midst of a moral panic over white supremacy. So they're taking the thing that they do, like this is, you know, what they've been doing since the beginning of time, but they take the thing they're guilty of and put it claim that that's what the other side is doing. Yeah. You know, so rather than being a deeply white supremacist country coming to terms with just the very tip of the iceberg of its white supremacy for the first time they're claiming that it's a moral panic uh over white supremacy guys i have to say with all of this i am not jiggy with it so you know i'm not jiggy with any of this i also i also like the idea
Starting point is 00:51:29 that joe biden tricked us all by using his boundless energy and razor sharp mind to create a three-dimensional kinetic illusion of white supremacist trying to murder the vice president. Wait, what? The idea of a false flag and they keep showing Joe Biden in the documentary. He's that smart. Yeah. It's mostly dementia, but then he has these moments of
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Starting point is 00:56:11 And we're back. And there's this mystery that's been making the rounds on shows like Last Podcast on the left, which I really like. Some true crime fans have been talking about this because it was very creepy. A young, healthy family was found dead on a hiking trail, appearing to have all just like, you know, the father was sitting down with his daughter. Their dog was like dead next to them. The mother was just like, you know, 10 feet up the trail. And they, you know, people were very concerned, scared, didn't know what happened. They closed down a entire section of this park because they thought it might be this poisonous algae bloom
Starting point is 00:56:55 that was going through the river and that they might have taken a drink from that. And it turns out it was heat exhaustion and hyperthermia, which is something that we talked about a couple weeks back. Hyperthermia, not hypo. This is already the most common, the deadliest form of natural disaster in America is heat death or hyperthermia. It's more than you know floods freezing wildfires like all the ones that we see in movies it's this one that we almost never see in movies like i can't holy shit yeah yeah yeah and we don't that movie death that like allows us to picture what this is in our mind and so when something like this happens we just like can't we
Starting point is 00:57:46 don't have the imaginative vocabulary to like make sense of it and so everybody just treats it as if like you know it's aliens or you know they were talking about poisonous gas coming out of a nearby cave and it was it was a heat death which is already you know one of the deadliest things in the country and only getting more so and the reason that the police were baffled is because this this isn't common or hasn't been to this point in history to have like multiple people at the same time at the same moment, basically die from the same, you know, heat, heat death. But that's because things are just getting worse, you know, because of climate change. Yeah. And I think just not knowing, I think also as people, we're not used to realizing what we could be putting our bodies through, too.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Like, yeah, I remember in the summer, like i took a couple hikes and i i carried way less water than i should have like way way i was under i would just did not hydrate properly i wasn't even thinking about it and part of me was like man it's fucking hot like i'm in the direct sunlight it's it's above like 80 it's like 90 degrees like this can't be like the best thing like to be like physically exerting myself in direct heat with no water. And like, I had to be like, yo, I had to like turn back and like, you know, I need to have water. And I think just, I think it's a thing that we don't consider that we could succumb to as well, because I see it all the time. Like you see, cause these people were like on a trail that used to be shaded right but the forest fires basically completely yeah so it's like compounding factors from climate change
Starting point is 00:59:30 that are contributing to making the world more dangerous but yeah no shade and that's what got and yeah and you think like oh well fuck it i can be in the sun for a little bit but it's there's just a lot to consider and i think it takes like moments, at least for me, to act really stupidly, to be like, you can't go on a multi-mile hike in direct sunlight in the summer, and like not do the minimum to take care of yourself, so I can imagine if you're not thinking,
Starting point is 00:59:56 like you're not experienced enough, you think like you can make it through this like intense hike or whatever, and very, very hot conditions, like oof, be bad be bad yeah that very famous editor who edited some tarantino films she just passed right away in griffith park oh really yeah just on a hot day she just passed right away and it was just like jesus christ she was like healthy and and you know living her life and just passed right away on a too hot day.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah. Really? Yeah, I think it's becoming more and more common. On Bronson Canyon. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, we got to stop doing, we got to stop hiking. We got to stop hiking or maybe stop fucking polluting the world. That'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And just knowing the conditions. You know, like if you see that shit and it looks like you're going to be in direct sunlight fucking polluting the the world that'd be nice and just knowing the conditions you know like yeah if you see that shit and it looks like you're gonna be in direct sunlight in 90 plus degree weather not many people are built for that like that yeah like as much as you might think you are and there are plenty of people do work in those conditions but it's very very difficult and as as temperatures only go up like you're gonna thinking like oh it's only 95 today that's not normal you know like so don't consider that uh you know i don't know i just the second it feels too hot like you gotta know like yeah that shit can kill you left that's i i've been
Starting point is 01:01:19 definitely reckless in the past and i'm going like stories like this are making me realize like anytime i'm going out there yeah you just you you now you take hikes with a wheelbarrow full of water like in front of you you're like no here we go like yeah like it's that sweat 70 i lose all the moisture in my body within like a mile of walking whether it's a hike or not just because through my armpits you know oh i'm such a sweaty guy. What if we took this solemn, respectful tone and just turn this into a Peloton ad? I guess that's why everyone should consider the low, low financing rates available for Peloton. I mean, you really can't put a price on the life of your child. But for thirty nine dollars a month with approved financing, you could own your Peloton bike.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Don't like biking. They offer the tread now. And let me tell you, it doesn't kill kids anymore. Anymore. Anymore. Anymore. Oh yeah. Anymore. Sort it out. Sort it out. This is a story that I feel like the mainstream media kind of bloodstream is very, you know, is craving recently for some reason. And that is stories about lawsuits where somebody sues a food manufacturer for not having like the thing that they claim inside. The real shit. The real shit. You know, Subway Tuna.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah, Subway Tuna was one example. And now we have Strawberry Pop-Tarts. It's just, you know, and they fall into, some feel like histrionic lawsuits. Yeah. And others maybe. And sometimes certain lawsuits do read like, oh, this person is actually mad. This is not real cookies and cookie crisp. mad this is not real cookies and cookie crisp um but in this instance this is all around the frosted strawberry pop tart i think is a staple thing you grow up eating is a pop tart i barely
Starting point is 01:03:13 ever toasted them i just you would just take that foil pack and raw oh no oh yeah i'm nasty because sometimes it'll get too hot or the bottom will get burnt and then i'm like fuck i'm not eating a burnt burnt pop tart i remember i think that's what happened instead of four miles you that perfect toasted you know what happened no it was like typical like hardcore mom shit where my mom made a pop tart and i was like this is kind of burnt on the bottom she's like then you do it yourself and i'm like i will cut to me never toasting them because I don't respect the effort my mother put in it, even trying to fucking toast a Pop-Tart. But in this instance, in the Southern District of Illinois, plaintiff Anita Harris, quote, alleges that Kellogg's claims about its frosted strawberry Pop-Tarts are misleading since, quote, they give consumers the impression the fruit filling contains a greater relative and absolute amount of strawberries than it does.
Starting point is 01:04:04 filling contains a greater relative and absolute amount of strawberries than it does the filling the filing goes on to state that despite strawberries being the products quote characterizing ingredient on the actual ingredients list dried strawberries don't get a mention until the contains two percent or less section i get it you know and then they go on quote based on a quantitative estimate and analysis of the filling it appears to or may even contain more non-strawberry fruit than strawberry ingredients. To give consumers the false impression that the product contains a greater absolute and relative amount of strawberries than it does, it contains Red 40, a synthetic food coloring made from petroleum. Red 40 makes the strawberry-pear-apple combination look bright red like it is only strawberries or has more strawberries wow than it does i mean this is like the water gate of pop tarts i guess i mean more than anything i just think of
Starting point is 01:04:52 like america hello we've been eating processed food since forever and i hope people out there don't believe that it's all just like organic mushed up strawberries in your very cheap Pop-Tarts. That's not what's happening. I have so many thoughts. Like, for one, obviously, American food IQ is very low. And I think it's lower the lower your wages are, right? The less money you have to spend at the grocery store the less you have experimenting with new food um yeah or you're in a food desert because of that and your options are truly limited
Starting point is 01:05:32 to these things in a box yeah right these pre-packaged items and so the idea that it's like definitely silly to read because it's like have you tasted a pop tart there's nothing authentic about what's happening in your mouth as you eat the pop tarts cinnamon sugars were my bag and i knew what was happening in there okay it's not even it they didn't grind up like fresh cinnamon sticks and it's no um i also understand this idea of feeling tricked like when i first started learning about food which was like mid-college of like what's in this and how do i prepare it and and what goes into all of these things like it was like a mind freak of just like how how have i been eating and and and what does the future look like for me
Starting point is 01:06:16 because now i have this knowledge but i have no money to correct what i'm concerned to continue to eat these terrible things just because that's what is within my financial bracket. And so I get where Miss Anita is coming from. She's frustrated. She wants some strawberries. She's trying to give her kids a healthy breakfast. You know, cereal companies lied. They told her it was part of a complete breakfast.
Starting point is 01:06:36 It's just sugar. Yeah. Where did she go? Don't look into the founder of Kellogg's too much. No, don't. Yeah. He would not like where his company has ended. He's very frustrated by it. Or just listen not like where his company has ended he's very frustrated
Starting point is 01:06:45 by it listen to the behind the bastards mr kellogg yeah but yeah i mean i and i that's why i'm like uh i understand like that's why some things really feel like this is this can be this is how i feel you know like this is this this feels like duplicitous and deceptive i totally get that but then you i know there's also a category of people who are just looking to file these lawsuits, kind of like those like serial like ADA filers that were around a couple of years ago who would just like go around like, I'm suing you for this, like this ramp's not here, or you can settle out of court. You know what I mean? Like just kind of trying to just get a quick settlement. But in this sense, more than like Anita and her case or Pop-Tarts, it's just like sort of this interesting thing
Starting point is 01:07:26 that a lot of people still like hold in their minds that like it's like it could all be fake to cut corners to maximize profits for the company that's making the food while putting all these really nice graphics on the box and that's where i'm kind of like i i want to do your own vax research crowd please bring this energy to the food you're eating because you might very quickly be like, oh, my God. Or they're going to be like, I love petroleum based food. Yeah. I had one thing that the food lawsuits are generally something that similar to the shoplifting story that we talked about before the break that people like the american like shared consciousness tends to side with mcdonald's over the person whose coffee like burnt them and it turns out like the when you read the actual details of
Starting point is 01:08:21 that story the woman who sued mcdonald's for spilling hot coffee on herself, like that's the way the story is told to us. And the truth is that it was dangerously hot, something that they had, like she had lifelong damage. Yeah, something they had, you know, articulated in paperwork. paperwork this yeah this lawsuit gets at something like yeah joelle you know you you were red 40 pilled when you read about like what actually goes into into the food and it's something that we like a lot of times don't have the the money to do anything about or the the like i guess in my case the characterizing ingredient of frosted strawberry pop tarts are the different colored little sugar specks in the icing oh yeah like i'm like that's really what i'm what i'm going for here is this should taste oh yeah a strawberry sundae i would cut the edges off sometimes.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I'd be like, I just want all frosting bites. All frosting bites. Or I'd trim off the sides. Mom's like, what the hell are you doing? I'm like, I want the good part. The sugar. They're not strawberries, Mom. Don't try and tell me. It's candy. And also, Joel, I don't often hear the
Starting point is 01:09:41 cinnamon sugar one shouted out as much as it should be. That one is such a great pop-tart. Did you like the s'mores one? No, I don't like marshmallows. Oh, just in general. I thought it was solid. Yeah, I was on the s'mores one for a minute. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Yeah, yeah. I was on the s'mores one as a kid, but strawberry was, that felt just like the crowd pleaser joint. strawberry was that felt just like the the crowd pleaser joint but i guess the way i look at it too is i think i would always i think because my mom with her like post-world war ii japan diet it was very like you know rural like you know you're eating like food that you're making or cultivating and things like that so when she was raising me i would always be like that's just all it's all fake food it's all fake food it's all fake i'm like yeah but it's good mom and the kids won't make fun of me if i know what this is okay please help me i'm trying to assimilate but they're also like i think in my mind i've always
Starting point is 01:10:35 been like okay i know i'm gonna be eating some things that aren't healthy and i'm always just kind of balancing out like knowing what knowing how much fake food you eat, and then you get your vegetables, and then you find a balance. I am not a nutritionist. Have me speak at your school. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles.
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