The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 202 (Best of 11/15/21-11/19/21)

Episode Date: November 21, 2021

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's Season 211 (11/15/21-11/19/21) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inform...ation.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled, blessed, fortunate to be joined in our third seat by one of the very kings of culture himself. He is an award-winning podcast host, a writer, producer, actor, voice artist. And even though it's not one of his written credits, he is one of my favorite singers.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He is the brilliant and talented jakees it's a rare condition this day and age to read any good news on the jockeys new page love and tradition of the grand design some people say it's even harder to find well then there must be some special glue inside these jockeys walls
Starting point is 00:03:17 cause all I see is the power of dreams real love bursting out of jockey seams da da da da da da da da It's the power of dreams Real love bursting out of Jocky's seams Days go by Jocky says his name And this is the Zyde gang
Starting point is 00:03:36 What up niggas? Oh hello Hello Oh Oh What up, niggas? Yes. Oh, hello. Hello. Oh, oh. Gotta get you with that Family Matters. Gotta get you. You know what I'm saying. The Steve Urkel Show is what we called it back in the day.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, Steve Urkel. What's up, everybody? I was just thinking about the Urkel Show. It was the Urkel Show. It was the Urkel Show. It wasn't even. Yeah, right. Yeah, man. Oh, man. Yo, man. I got to get back to the crib. Urkel coming it was a show it wasn't even yeah right yeah man oh man yo man I gotta get back to the crib Urkel coming on man can you imagine how those other actors felt like
Starting point is 00:04:12 nigga I'm on the show too and like Darius McCrary dating someone famous now who Darius McCrary exactly thank you oh oh oh Eddie Winslow. Eddie Winslow. I think he is. I saw in the news he was dating somebody. He got to come up. Man, good for Eddie, man. Good for Eddie Winslow. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like he's always finding ways to stay in the news.
Starting point is 00:04:38 People are always evoking Darius McCrary. I can't remember what it was. I'm glad I heard his name again. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out, Eddie Winslow. Right. I also want to say you know i just realized something you know whenever you know lately when i've been coming on i always do the little songs and shit also shout out to uh db at black night 115 coming through with the idea for the family matters theme song whenever i come on you know i always start by saying what's up niggas how y'all doing
Starting point is 00:05:05 and i want i want to be clear because i feel like you know i'm not clear that i'm only talking to black people when i say that i haven't greeted any white people to come up to you on the street yeah yeah hey jackies i think you're referring to me on that one podcast intro no man i'm talking to only black people i've never spoken to white people on this show. I've only spoken to your black listeners. So let me introduce myself to your white listeners. Hello, everyone. Hello, all my friends out there. Oh, hi, Jekyll. The Caucasian race. How you doing? How you doing, Jack O'Brien? Hi. I hope you guys are having a wonderful day. I hope it's a beautiful day for y'all.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I was starting to feel left out. Well, not anymore, man. I'm speaking to you now, man. I'm speaking to everybody. Speaking to everybody now. You should see my text messages on the past episodes when Jack would be talking. Jaquese is like, I don't remember asking him a fucking thing. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Who was that man? I wasn't talking to Jack. You asked me to come on and talk to you, Miles. Yeah. You're like, why did you let that white guy talk so much on your show? Don't get it. Don't get it. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But you know what? It's a new leaf. It's 2021. You know, it's my end of year resolution to start talking to all the white listeners. Hey, better late than never. Yes. Yes. Well, we appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You know, it is important that we feel included. You know. Thank you. You are included, man. You're important. White people, you're important too. Don't let anybody tell you. Finally, someone's here.
Starting point is 00:06:35 White people, you are seen. You're seen, white folks. You're seen. And we love you. We might get to the Urkel thing. Maybe I was thinking of that just this morning because Ridley Scott was like making statements about how
Starting point is 00:06:50 about superhero movies we might get to it a little later on but he referred to Blade Runner as Harrison Ford. He was like yeah no I made some I made some great superheroes Alien with Sigourney Weaver.
Starting point is 00:07:05 One would be fucking Gladiator. And one would be Harrison Ford. Oh, love it. Love it. Yeah. Why not? They had to be like put in practices in Blade Runner. He sounds like a black elder when you're just going off of it.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Just reducing it to like the person. Yeah. You're watching Harrison Ford again? Okay. Yeah. Hey, I wish I was. Oh, this is reducing it to like the person. Yeah. You're watching Harrison Ford again. Okay. Yeah. Hey, I wish I was. Oh, this is Harrison Ford. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Which Harrison Ford you watching? The one with the hat or the one in space? You talking about Indiana Jones or Star Wars? Yeah. The one with Billy Dee or the one without Billy Dee? The one with or without Billy? No, I don't with or without billy now i don't watch that one man i don't watch that one i don't watch that many snakes in that one not fucking with all those snakes there's one guy that wrote that song and step by step and i think full house yeah
Starting point is 00:08:00 and he's like a music teacher in connecticut now he did perfect strangers too didn't he i think so i just think of him like what was his career like a failed like blues singer and he's like fuck you want me to make a theme song fine i'll do it and they're like holy shit man what the fuck he just sat down and appeared like fine fuck it and you're like whoa what the fuck okay it's like we figured out you can't quite chart on the radio theme music you fucking nailed it yeah yeah that is by choco that dude that dude was like an auteur of like there's no reason that those songs should have all sounded the same but yeah no we're just like yeah this is gonna sound like this dude had it locked that's unbelievable
Starting point is 00:08:46 yeah and we didn't even care they sounded the same we was like nah those are different songs and they all the same fucking song same all the same song he did step by step too i think jesse frederick did you say that yeah yeah jesse frederick love it perfect maybe uncle love it Yeah. Jesse Frederick. Love it. Perfect. Maybe Uncle Love It. Valerie. Valerie. Full House. Family Matters. Valerie and Valerie's family. Hey, did the spinoff too.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Love them. Love that form. Yeah. I wonder if Uncle Jesse, the musical uncle on Full House, was named for him. Ooh, maybe. It's a question that has never been asked. we gotta well we're gonna we gotta get him on the show i've always had this dream like since at every place i've worked and was like we gotta talk about jesse frederick the most underrated musician of all time who gave us these theme songs
Starting point is 00:09:38 and i remember looking for him i found out that i think he lives in like massachusetts or something based off a youtube comment that said that this guy was his like music teacher so wow look if y'all know jesse frederick tell him we're psych the daily psych crisis looking for him yeah tell him we need him tell him i want to meet him too i want to meet him too absolutely man that would be amazing just to riff with him i'll sing a song with man he's probably got a bunch of like students. Hey, Jacquees, why don't you try this one on? It's always the same, baby. Always playing the same goddamn song.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It starts the same fucking way as every other song. Okay, okay, I get it. All right, all right. That's fair enough. That sounded a little bit as days go by. How about this one? Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- I get it. All right. All right. That's fair enough. That sounded a little bit as days go by. How about this one? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, That's just slower.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, Okay. Well, fuck. All right, Jesse. Yeah. You know what? Oh, he's on Twitter. I'd be willing to have one of his students on just to like hear what he's like in class.
Starting point is 00:10:44 That would be, you know, that would be dope. hear what he's like in class. That would be. Oh, that would be dope. Right. Like, does he just. That would be dope. Rock with that information. Like from. He has a lot of hot takes on Tupac.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Uh oh. A lot of hot takes. Jesse Frederick? Did you match it? Oh, shit. I was about to say, don't ruin this for me, Miles. Don't ruin this for me. Shit.
Starting point is 00:11:01 We record the whole song. We record the whole time. No, but not even like a problematic way he's just like yo he's more energy he's more energy if you're going by mcs it's not by lyrics though it's not bars i'm like okay jay frederick damn okay all right bad opinions but not you know problematic america's uncle jesse though shout out to that man cait, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, the last couple of things I was Googling Lycoris, who was a Greek mime in ancient Rome, who was also a courtesan.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So for the podcast, and then also parts for 1987 Nissan that I guess I'm responsible for. So that's been a journey. You said Lycoris is the name? Yeah, Lycoris, which I haven't talked to. I'm not confident that's how you pronounce it. But like she's yeah, she was awesome. She was born sort of the end of the Republic. She was a lover to Mark Anthony.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Before he was a J-Love. was a lover to Mark Anthony sort of, you know, when he was with JLo. Oh, Anthony. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 no, no, no, no, no, no, Cicero had a problem with it and told her to shut her whore mouth. And Mark Anthony was like, you know, I've done what I can. And she disappeared from history. So that's her story.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So Cicero was like, we don't want somebody with some, we don't need sex positivity in our time. Yeah, absolutely. You can't be forcing my wife to meet this woman at parties and stuff. You got to keep her where the sluts live. You know, those are the rules. What was the, wait, so back in those times, was it, you know, what was sort of the hierarchy? Like, was it, is it a completely impossible feat
Starting point is 00:12:54 for her to get to that place? Yeah, that's interesting. You know, so Rome is like way more patriarchal and like misogynistic than ancient Greece, right? So in ancient Greece, you know, priestess prostitutes are, like, goddesses that serve, or, you know, priestesses that serve the goddess through sacred sex and something that we would sort of recognize as, like, high-end, you know, like, high-art performance sex work that is still happening today, right? So we, those people had social power and there were like temples and systems
Starting point is 00:13:26 and like places carved out. So like Phryne is an ancient Greek courtesan who was tried for blasphemy because she got like uppity or whatever. And she bared her breasts to the jury and basically said like, my, you know, my tits are divine and fight me if you disagree.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And she won, right? And she got the win. Clap from the jury. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm like, yeah, no, I mean, that's God, you know what I mean? And so that's ancient Greece. Right. Courtesans in ancient Rome had no such power.
Starting point is 00:13:56 There was a lot more restriction on their freedom of movement and specifically their sort of like ascent into social circles. So it was actually illegal for, had mark anthony married this woman he would have by default and by roman law lost his rank oh wow right but like also he would have lost his rank and like ancient roman politicians or whatever and folks in the military would lose their rank if they ever performed on a stage so like that association of like actress and sex work or like performer and and you know salaciousness or whatever goes way back and ancient roman mimes directly you know they're not they're not the mimes of today they're not the silent kind it's actually a predecessor to comedy more than comedy in the theater tradition,
Starting point is 00:14:47 which is way stricter and scripted and had a lot more rules. This was just improv on current events, which is what you guys do. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So we are the courtesans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whores and gestures have occupied the same position the whole time. Exactly. And we just give our hot takes for Casper mattresses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were all playing to the pleasure position the whole time. Exactly. And we just give our hot takes for Casper mattresses.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We were all playing to the pleasure of the king. Are there cultures that were less patriarchal and were more accepting of sex work than ancient Rome? Don't ask stuff that's impossible, man. No, there's real history here.
Starting point is 00:15:22 What are some of the greatest hits? Because yeah, I feel like we are in the Roman tradition and like we assume that we are like progressive, but we're actually compared to other cultures throughout history. We kind of centuries behind. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of evidence about like different beliefs around like women and gender and bodies that provides like a way better foundation, right? In indigenous communities across North America. There's also like in Brazil and India, there's a long tradition here. Ancient Greece, when you're talking about like the Western tradition is sort of like when my story of history, which is like way oversimplified, right? I do 10,000 years in 75 minutes, right? Like there's a lot of erasure and oversimplified right i do 10 000 years in 75 minutes right like there's
Starting point is 00:16:05 a lot of erasure and oversimplification that happens but like i kind of pin ancient greece as like the briny waters where like we see patriarchy right we start to do lineage through the dad but goddesses that engage in the erotic arts still have real power yeah that's cool and we go through phases right like the medieval period is like another upstart then you have like you know the witch burnings and you have like you know the the descent of disease i like it's yeah but this is my favorite topic and i'll you know i will corner you at a party i know oh yeah it's it it's always frustrating when we have a guest on who's like oh the thing you talk about on your podcast is way more interesting than the news. We should just talk about that the whole time, but we'll try and fit in some news, but
Starting point is 00:16:50 I want to keep talking about this. What is something you think is overrated, Kate? Oh boy, I'm going to get a lot of haters for this one, but I got to do it because it's seasonally appropriate. I think Christmas music is wild wild overrated and i think people who start listening to it like in mid-october like that's a lot it's a lot i'm not saying all christmas music is bad i'm not saying christmas music shouldn't be played during the christmas season but when there are like three radio stations dedicated to christmas music like november 1st That is a little bit of overkill, guys, I would say. Yeah. It is really, it's a strange phenomenon that like for a month,
Starting point is 00:17:32 like that's how powerful Christmas is. That for a month, we all just listen to like mediocre music and it's like the same every year. And we're just like, yeah. But it is, I mean, it's all about nostalgia, right? So we're just. I think that's what's wild. Yeah, it's like, it's an emotional safe space so we're just i think that's what's wild yeah it's like it's an emotional safe space for a lot of american people like but this time of year was great because in
Starting point is 00:17:51 school would be out and i could stay home and there were gifts and then i saw family and then i didn't have to go to school and i feel like a lot of my because i'm one of these people like i will turn into a straight up Karen starting December 1st. Like I try and wait, or maybe right after Thanksgiving. That's reasonable though. Like after Thanksgiving, but the,
Starting point is 00:18:11 like people are listening to Christmas music in mid October. I'm just like, that's such a long time. And too much of a thing you like is bad. Like it will become meaningless because I only, I really like you're saying there are only like 16 songs i really like and you will go through them like songs back then were like 90 seconds so you listen to all of them like 40 minutes you're like fuck man another round of that playlist yeah that's why i just
Starting point is 00:18:36 single about rock again loop it again the thing i do is i'll put on like piano covers like piano jazz covers of like uh christmas standards at night to make my house feel like a hotel lobby that i'm not supposed to be in yeah i like that do you have like some cinnamon like uh potpourri that you can put there oh yeah you know some some some milling spices you know i mean i got that mulling spices i got that i have i have my woodwick yankee candles you know what i mean with that crackling shit i'm telling i'm not joking about this the vibe setting i do yeah i'm some big austere glass like non-cheerful i'm just trying to picture like a fancy hotel at christmas i feel like they have like it's a giant glass fucking christmas tree or something yeah a lot of orbs yeah so many orbs or like a like a gigantic what looks like a scientific glass flask which is meant
Starting point is 00:19:33 to like evoke a christmas tree with like ribbon it's like very minimal it's very fancy i do feel like the early like the fact that christmas is getting earlier and earlier is probably connected to the overall like infantilization of america because like i hadn't really made the connection until like now i have a three-year-old who starts asking about christmas in like august and so i feel like it's just yeah yeah like it's you know the the little baby and all of us being like, I want Christmas now. Exactly. Cause I'm like, what am I going to deal with my 37 year old reality?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Right. I'm fucking nine. Yeah. Let's go. I was just talking to my therapist about regression and the fact that like so many of us have regressed during the pandemic for better and worse. And like, I definitely think that's a huge part of the Christmas thing
Starting point is 00:20:26 getting earlier and earlier it's like the world is so bad people are just looking for like little slivers of comfort and Christmas music is one of them so I don't want to begrudge anybody's Christmas music listening I just like maybe not for you for you fuck that
Starting point is 00:20:41 I will say the real racket as a musician is like write that christmas song as we have seen with mariah carey like you'll be making bank for the rest of your life as will your grandchildren like yeah right can you imagine like the like you know like how anderson cooper is like a vanderbilt and like there's someone the equivalent of like mariah carey's descendants to like they descend from that all All I want for Christmas money, generational wealth. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:07 New money. Yeah. Or who knows if they're smart about it. It's old money by the time it's like 2,100. Oh man. If the earth's around. What is something you think is underrated? All right.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Underrated. This is, I'm coming in hot with an underrated thing and, and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's properly rated, but I'm going underrated mayonnaise is i'm coming in hot with an underrated uh thing and and maybe i'm wrong maybe it's properly rated but i'm going underrated mayonnaise mayonnaise i think is the most most underrated thing in the refrigerator i was holding on to my butt with both hands and that's because you were doing you were doing your ace ventura asshole emil bit yeah the the whole show by the way for people who can't see, I've been doing the whole show
Starting point is 00:21:46 pretending to call my butt. Yeah, it's worked pretty well. I actually got fooled right when I logged on. Especially when you hit their daily zeitgeist. And putting a really long beard on it was helpful. Oh, that's not...
Starting point is 00:22:00 I've heard about that. But you were saying? Mayo. Mayonnaise. Or we're weak. My wife would physically fight you on this one. She hates mayonnaise? She doesn't like mayonnaise?
Starting point is 00:22:16 She really does not like mayonnaise. But mayo is the base of so many great dips and sauces. And you throw it in a pan when you're making a spaghetti sauce sometimes. And that'll give it a little bit of life. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. That's a little hack I hadn't heard of. Throw some mayo in there. Yeah, throw some mayo. Throw some mayo in where, when, how, why? Throw some mayo in when you're making a little sauce, man. a little sauce man thicken it up give it some flavor wow yeah is this something you discovered or this is something you read like on a like a like a italian i think i think it was like we do like some hello fresh every now and again yeah and they were like here put mayo in this and in this sauce and and and
Starting point is 00:23:01 they gave you packets of mayo and like it actually came out really well it came out great wow yeah you ever see like the how disney makes their um grilled cheese oh they slather with mayo they slather with mayo and fry oh yeah that's how you get that color yeah yeah so that's in there baby i don't know i also have used mayo for uh grilled cheese and it does work oh yeah that's the only way you get that color. Because I used to do butter and I'd be like, what the fuck? It only gets to a certain point. And they're like, no, it's the sugar and the mayonnaise that you need to normalize and then you get that nice texture. And I'm like, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I do like you yelling at butter though. Oh yeah, you should see me. What are you doing? It's a fucking aggro nightmare and I'm like throwing shit, getting mad at mayonnaise. But yeah, I love, I mean, I'm a big Japanese Kew at mayonnaise but yeah i love i mean i'm a big japanese kewpie mayonnaise fan yeah that shit on fucking everything and yeah i don't know i mean it's uh i get in some places where people get upset about mayonnaise but at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:23:56 it's just like a fat delivery vehicle right it's all the things you like anyway yeah eggs olive oil all that stuff but like um i feel like it takes a bad a little bit of a bad a bad rap and i'm like a big mayo proponent well i think if you're like if if you're putting mayo on everything like it's ranch then sure i think there's a thing with like you know mayo i i get to a certain point like it is necessary for a lot of things but then you do like i've i've reacted to seeing things where it's like just extreme amounts of mayonnaise being used for something that I didn't realize mayonnaise was in. And I'm like, yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But and it does. I am Italians. Please call in with your thoughts on mayonnaise for your Sunday sauce. Well, not for the Sunday sauce. This is not a Wednesday. Not for the Sunday gravy. Not not not in the gravy. OK, but but if you're going a little outside the box.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I don't know. I feel like I need to just stand up for the mayo people. But I do agree with you. Some people do that gross thing where it's too much and it makes the noise. It doesn't make an appealing noise in a big bowl.
Starting point is 00:25:01 If you're mixing it up. Really, really fresh. Do you fuck with a mayo chup? Is that what we're calling it? Instead of Ketchenaise? Oh, some suckles? Ketchenaise! Hey, Ketchenaise!
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, fancy sauce? That's just fancy sauce. That's the Burger King special sauce. Everyone's got their name. Yeah, I love mayo and ketchup. Mayo and Frank's hot sauce. That's good stuff name yeah yeah i love mayo and ketchup mayo and uh frank's hot sauce that's good stuff yeah yeah that's a good dip oh i just gotta say i was reading into this the you the netflix u la stuff yeah i just love okay so just to give you an idea of one of the things that like sort of pissed them off it says it's's love because that's one of the characters, right?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah, she's the one that he like, I think he falls in love with or something. Okay. Who serves as Joe's guide to Los Angeles and who serves up that Jay Gold line. She introduces him to the city via the search for his quote perfect bite, taking him on a tour of food trucks and strip malls.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Okay, got it. Then it's like stuff about like everyone's drinking green juices yes this is what i'm saying yeah okay yeah fair enough i mean we would never do that i have an empty green juice right next we never do that because we keep our guys empty yeah yeah exactly i think it's fine like that people do actually do it but i think at this point we need to have grown up and been like that's just what happens and it's no longer like oh oh you guys like the juice is green yeah of course right yeah well you know if it's and if it's really behind they're gonna be like hey man you want to go to a poke bar i like that guy i like that character man, you want to go to a poke bar?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Oh, man, this poke, that's a little bit of all right, man. I'm from West Hollywood. We have the highest minimum wage in the nation. There you go. They do. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about what's happening in the news. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about what's happening in the news.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
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Starting point is 00:29:07 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
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Starting point is 00:30:56 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So the big news in the mainstream media is more people are quitting than ever before. There's more unemployed than than ever before there's more unemployed people than ever before the great resignation is upon us what what is happening
Starting point is 00:31:31 and so there's a couple things happening one trend that people are kind of starting to document is that people seem especially young people seem less likely to just do a job because it's a job they're more likely to kind of want to follow their passion yeah it's funny you highlighted this article for us miles that where this like this study calls it what i call the passion principle the prioritization of fulfilling work even at the expense of job security or a decent salary. So they've like managed to laboratory eyes, just people doing what they love. Yeah. Not not mimicking like our parents or grandparents who are like, I worked myself into bone dust just to keep things working. You're like, oh, no, that's for me. But yeah, this is like, you know, again, that's not new.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I think for the longest time, we've heard things like, you got to follow your passion, man. If you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life. And that is true to a certain extent. I mean, there's a lot of stuff to indicate through certain studies, like with interviewing college students or career coaches, found that over 75% of college educated workers believe that passion is like really important in making a decision. Like when it comes to what, what kind of career should I take? And 67% of them say that
Starting point is 00:32:56 they would prioritize meaningful work over job stability, high wages and work-life balance. And I think on a certain level that made sense for, I don't know, when I graduated in fucking 2007, I walked into a fucking recession and I'm like, fuck, uh, okay. I don't know what the fuck I'm, I thought I knew what I wanted to do, but now I really have no fucking idea what I want to do. And I think that forced me into a moment of truly thinking of like, well, right now, not many things are an option. So maybe let's take this time to figure out what is, you know, something that really energizes you. And I think the idea being that, like, if you, again, if you like what you do, then you won't feel like you're just, you know, going day in, day out and wasting parts of your
Starting point is 00:33:40 life by just toiling. But the thing that's really interesting about that is that that idea of following your passion works to a certain extent, right? It's probably working for people who either have some family that they can support that can support them through a career transition or just in general, if there are social safety nets. This was an interesting statistic that said when working class college graduates pursue their passion, they are about twice as likely as a wealth as wealthier passion seekers. Interesting description to later end up in unstable, low paid work far outside that passion. Right. So there's a lot of, you know, social safety net career things sort of tied up into everything that's happening at the moment. I also think there's collective trauma from the last couple of years and people,
Starting point is 00:34:33 I also think there's collective trauma from the last couple of years and people, I can imagine that there weren't some people who were like, oh, I make a better living getting unemployment than I do doing this job. And now I'm going out and risking my life know, the, the, the facing your mortality, the way we did in the last couple of years where people don't give enough credit for that people were probably like, yeah, I'm, I'm, and it's, and, and it's not like Corona virus has disappeared. It's not like COVID is still not here. So I can't imagine that people knowing how many people passed away. And it was just like a brush of this group of people that are just gone now that people are like re-evaluating quality of life yeah i yeah and i i think like that kind of goes to the other point that they're making that
Starting point is 00:35:18 you know in america especially we tend to like the first thing people ask someone is like, what do you do? And then like that defines like how you think of that person or it defines how you think of yourself. Like you feel a certain way about having a job or like talking to somebody and not feeling great about your job more than other countries. And so i think that that's another implication of this study is that it's okay to not have a cool sounding job if you're able to you know have a good work life balance and yes take care of yourself and the people that you care about and then pursue the shit that you love like when your job that respects boundaries like allows you to yeah you know i just i had to say this because it's burning inside of me i don't know where i was going to say it but i need to
Starting point is 00:36:11 say it so there's a shortage of santa claus right there is a shortage of santa claus throughout the country because the the people who dress up like santa cla not want to get COVID. They don't want little kids who are not vaccinated sitting on their laps. I thought it was because they don't want to get in trouble for other reasons, but it was because of that. But I think it's interesting because a lot of the people who believe in Santa Claus that they want you to say Merry Christmas, not happy holidays, tend to be affiliated with this ideology that COVID vaccinations are not necessary, that we shouldn't be wearing masks, but it's just, a lot of it is performative because everybody is going to protect their own hide. And so now you got a whole bunch of Santa Clauses that are not dressing up and not
Starting point is 00:37:03 going out because they don't want to get COVID. But I'm like, I thought COVID wasn't real, son. Oh, well, I, no,
Starting point is 00:37:13 I mean, it, it, uh, fuck you're right. It's real. And I'm, and I'm shook.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's why I do it. I do think though, the like having a generation or just a populace like after the pandemic that is less likely to be interested in doing like kind of bone grinding miles, as you put it, work and like soul deadening work like that is going to have a fundamental impact on. on like one of the big things that ties into job like satisfaction is like feeling like you're doing something and we talked last month about like studies that have shown that like you know up to like 40 to 40 percent to like most jobs in the american economy are just bullshit jobs they're like make work jobs that like allow people to have a job managing other people and that's like basically why those jobs exist like i've the longer i've spent working in the american economy the more i've realized that that seems to be at least half of jobs is just like bullshit make work jobs like in a lot of cases make other people rich jobs
Starting point is 00:38:27 yeah precisely yeah and that's like the other thing that this article in the atlantic points out too is like you know employers love when they can find people who say they love their job because that means they can they can squeeze more out of you and that's right like they're like and that was sort of like the thrust of this is like don't fall into this pit of like i love my job because it's not all you're not always work. You're most of the time, I would say 99 percent of us aren't working for us. We're working to make someone else a lot of money. And like to the idea of like what it means to work and just like these bone grinding jobs.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Like I even think about guilt I would have about being like, is my job hard enough? I would have about being like, is my job hard enough? You know, like, am I, am I, am I, am I, cause I look at the examples of jobs my family have has had through the generations. And I'm like, dude, I bet my grandmother's fucking laughing at me. So, Oh, you a podcaster. How far did you go to get water? And I'm like, what? It came out the sink. And there was a lot of, and I think there, again, because of the idea of your job being wrapped in your identity, it really is insidious, which is why, like, you know, people are pivoting to So let me find something that actually gives me the freedom to do the shit that I actually like to do. And I don't have to get so wrapped up in thinking my work has to be the thing that gives me everything that I want. Yeah. You hear these kids now and which I respect that they are calling out this toxic capitalism that's driving us into
Starting point is 00:40:00 the ground. You know, people were really weaponizing socialism and communism and those buzzwords to alarm people who are being motivated emotionally and through their pain. And all of that stuff is being hijacked to serve a greater purpose, to keep feeding this toxic capitalism that is running the world, not just America. And it's just interesting to see people now calling it what it is because the conversation have been framed so that if you called out capitalism as having toxic properties, that you were being anti-American. And now people are starting to say, oh man, like this man made how much money during the pandemic? Because I didn't have any food in my house. And I just think it's important. And I think it's admirable to hear people finally
Starting point is 00:40:51 starting to say where the real source is, because from that is where the white supremacy rains down on us and the patriarchy and the sexism and the religious oppression. And it is all a function of rich people getting richer at the expense of those who are willing to bleed for being a Republican, a Democrat, you know, working for this company or that company. And now people are finally saying, yeah, nah, I'm good. Right. And to the point where like you're saying, like in previous eras, it would be like, oh, you're a, what are you talking?
Starting point is 00:41:23 What's all that shit you're talking? You're a socialist. And people are like,'re like oh no no i'm not a commie you're a pinko oh no no and now it's like oh you're a socialist and now everybody's like yeah and what right so yeah i mean we want socialism to work for us too right yeah exactly like and my senators kids go to a good school. Right. Yeah. I'm curious for you, like I like even in your special, right. You talked about how you you did a lot of political commentary and that. And then you're like, I don't know if that's for me. And I think especially for people who are in the arts performative, there's a definitely an evolution of thinking like, is this a job I want to have? Is this a job I can sustain my life with, sustain a family with? Should I just take something that's more consistent? What was your sort of path through all of that to kind of arrive where you're at right now? Well, I'll be honest with you. I've never made any money for
Starting point is 00:42:14 being an activist, right? So when people, it's a thankless job, right? And it's not a job. It's just our civil duty as people who live on a planet with other people. I think it's just healthy to say, I care about you. And if you don't have food, that should matter to me because it just, I don't know. It's just, I guess where the definition of humanity is for me. What I had to evolve to and learn in this business is that one, I have the privilege of doing it because I have a job in comedy that I do get paid for. And if I don't want to do this anymore, I can just go write my jokes. But there are people on the ground who do this every single day, who fight for the planet, fight for racial justice and equity, that fight for the rights of women. And those people don't get
Starting point is 00:43:07 a lot of followers on Instagram. You know what I mean? But if Kim Kardashian said, I'm going to help this lady get out of jail, everybody's like, oh my God. But there are people who are doing that every single day that the people who actually helped Kim Kardashian accomplish that, that you, that they get overshadowed. And so I didn't want to be a part of that because I feel like that's toxic too. So I decided that I was going to use whatever I have to shine a light on the people who do that because they need the economic support and they need the moral support because it's a really hard job to fight for stuff. And that I would I would continue my advocacy and activism through my art. And so I'll write the jokes about this. But I am in no way equipped nor informed enough to talk about some of the things that people who this is their expertise. And I just felt like I was in the way and I wanted to get out the way the other thing is that people are exhausting as i said in there
Starting point is 00:44:08 it's hard to fight for people that you hate right i'm like i want to turn around you know what i mean like i was just like i can't stand y'all like you guys are the worst you damned if you do damned if you don't you know if i say something is uh are you saying something? Why are you talking for us? If I don't say anything, why are you not saying anything? Yeah, I just decided that I was going to redirect my energy and I was going to put it in my scripts and I'm going to put it in my writing. I'll put it in my jokes and the movies that I write and the TV shows that I make. I'm going to get out of the way and I'm going to let those people who do what they do. And anytime I have any power or visibility, I'm going to shine a light on them. Yeah. And I could you could tell, especially like in your special, I really loved how you gave everyone a lower third.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Like no one was just anonymous or just like a fake like back wallpaper or nothing. You're like, no, this is this is. This is the name of this group. Even if they're performing on the street, uh, that was just a, you know, I, and again, you can see that permeate through your work. So yeah, I appreciate that. You noticed that. Cause that was something that I had to vocalize. I was like, you know, those people are important. And this is one of the people that look like this don't get to be on HBO Max or Netflix with frequency. So this is their opportunity to shine. Give them a name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Now you're platforming them. And now hundreds of thousands of people will see a name and be like, oh, I thought that group was fly. Let me look them up. And yeah, really commendable. Thank you. All right. Well, let's talk about schools. Let's talk about schools being unfair.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah, speaking of that. Because, you know, in addition to pouring billions of dollars into the sweatpant industry, the pandemic has changed a lot about how we think about schooling because parents had to do it, had to like sit there with their kids while they were trying to learn. It was very difficult. But at the end of 2020, there was an unprecedented rise in Fs, which it feels like that is one way
Starting point is 00:46:19 to deal with the fact that a complete act of God that nobody had any control over came in and made it much harder for kids to learn is to blame it on the kids and make the rest of their lives harder by just flunking them. But a bunch of school boards have been coming together to try to address this issue, figure out how they can change how we think about schooling and how we judge students in a way that will be more fair and more appropriate to the modern world. Right. Because apparently the letter grade thing was invented like 100 years ago ago or i guess 120 dating back to 1897
Starting point is 00:47:08 and the reason that it stuck is because it became like very common in the how we graded meat and so that's that's how it got like sort of also great culture beef became such a wow put that over to grade a math skills right what is grade f beef that's my question like what is that shit oh man my grandfather used to tell a funny story as the parent of german immigrants who didn't speak a ton of english that a bunch of kids would just lie to their parents about what the grading scale meant so it was like f was fine d was damn fine c was could do better b was bad and a was awful which that always sounds so funny i mean you know it has a certain sort of a sense to it but kids won't be able to get away with that shit anymore apparently but i like the the things that they're, you know, looking to change are basically they want kids to be judged based on how much mastery of the skill they're trying to learn. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So if they have learned it well enough to do it, then they get by. If they haven't done that, then they have to keep going. But like, which I assumed is like how teachers were thinking about the letter grades too, right? Like that, oh, well, they haven't learned math, but they're pointing out that like, there are stupid things that go into somebody failing, like, you know, missing a class or not following directions and so they're trying to do away with that sort of thing right i yeah go ahead i mean all that shit did for me was just obsess over being and then like scoring above 90 on tests because that was a threshold for an a and half the time it was just i mean it was funny too because i think the letter i think because
Starting point is 00:49:07 culturally i was so sort of oriented to be like yo these fucking a's better be hitting on this card when i see it that like it put into me like fuck i gotta do anything to get an a more than even being like i gotta do whatever it takes to learn this i just became more about yo can i memory recall the fuck out of this for a test and also truth be told i learn this i just became more about you know can i cramp memory recall the fuck out of this for a test and also truth be told i hated science i just started cheating in science because i was like fuck that i'm not fucking my grades up yeah i'll fucking i will i will order the teacher's edition of this physics book and do i have the test already so thank you it's so real though it's like you're not learning things you're just like let me learn the structure of the eyeball for this biology quiz and then not retain a lick of it for any future sort of like
Starting point is 00:49:50 things but guys what about our permanent records it's gonna go in our permanent records oh my god i haven't even heard yo you fucked me up just saying that out loud this is gonna be on your permanent record y'all like this is gonna go on your yeah and it's like i never saw it did it exist i asked my dad about this he said you were full of shit and they're like well we'll talk about that at the parent teacher for any children listeners like not a day goes by where my permanent record from middle school is not dangled over my head by the police by the irs banks employers everything the doctor but yeah so la and san diego unified uh school districts are directing teachers to and this sounds like what they should have already been doing base academic grades on whether students
Starting point is 00:50:38 have learned what was expected of them during a course and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines. It's like, yeah, motherfucker. That's, that's how we should have always been doing it because the school closures that happened disproportionately affected the grades of black and Latinx students.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's interesting too, right? And I'm sure there's plenty of alternative schools that take this into account because I feel like that's just a huge focus area for people in education. But like, I think it's like the stakes are just so high, like they feel so high in this like A through F system that it will either create like kids will either very quickly be like, OK, fuck it. I can like rise to this situation or check out because it just becomes frustrating, you know, and even if they can, like I have so many friends who are more than capable of being in AP classes.
Starting point is 00:51:31 But like the momentum of like academia and like being sort of told like you're kind of like a C student. It's like, no, man, his parents were fighting all the time and he was distracted and couldn't do his fucking homework like other kids or whatever. Like that's sort of what's happening here. You know who's not going to like this? Mainstream media. I feel like mainstream media is a society of straight A students who got into that. Or a lot of F students going out and buying nepotism. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And, you know, who actually think and i think a lot of you know just a lot of like the people in power in america will not like this because there is a belief that like well i went to a better college and that means not that i'm i had more opportunities but that i'm like actually smarter and need to like be in control and like making these decisions that affect other people because I need to make them for them. Like that is definitely like under girding, like a lot of how people think. And I think the media and the world of finance and like that's also how they justify just the generally fucked up way that our society is built out. So the idea that,
Starting point is 00:52:52 well, what do you mean my kid can't get straight A's? Like that's... But it's all, this is a competition-based market. I mean, society that we live in. I'm glad we've started having this conversation about gifted kids and that whole escalator of madness. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:07 I don't know if you guys like, we talk too much about it on Twitter, I will say. And there've been too many things in the sort of like former gifted kids do this, but I don't know. Like I, myself and a lot of my friends,
Starting point is 00:53:18 it's like, yo, we've been grinding since we were five. Like, this is not fun anymore. Like I got all the A a's i did all the right stuff i still can't buy a fucking house like i am taking a breather and smoking some weed like i am not like yeah it's i i hope parents are like loosening the reins on some of that stuff too and
Starting point is 00:53:39 realizing that like if every kid gets straight a's and every kid does all the right sort of like extracurriculars like you're still in the same boat when things like COVID happen. So I don't know. But I can like see the Fox News segment on this now. It's going to be like tied to the war on Christmas. It's like the war on report cards. Yeah. Woke report cards.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Report cards are now woke because it's even now too hard to hear that you have failed at something yeah sure but i mean i think it goes along with this other thing too like this these studies constantly come out like again they're showing like 43 percent of like harvard like white students that were admitted were like recruited athletes legacy students or like on a dean's interest list meaning like like parents gave money. And you're saying 43% of those kids going to Harvard are there because of not, I'm sure of like the hardcore merit-based admissions that many of the other students face. But there's just always these levels to like, it's never the same scale applied to everyone. So it would be interesting to see where something where it's like, yeah, guess what?
Starting point is 00:54:43 In this version, this kid too will be treated as a valid applicant to a school because we have a more just sort of holistic, even keeled way of saying like, yep, this kid knows it. This kid does, too. We are the best of the best of billionaire children. But so there are reasons to believe that this is a better, for instance, there's a school in New York City that tried this, basically did away with letter grades. And it was a middle school. And they say in this Washington Post article, quote, the approach has been transformative in the 2013-14 school year, 7% of its students read at grade level and 5% met the state's math standards. Two years later, 29% were proficient in English, 26% proficient in math, pulling the school close to the city average just by getting rid of these standards of pass-fail. I also feel like there are a lot of great teachers. I've had a lot of great teachers. Like I've had a lot of great teachers. I've also seen teachers who feel empowered because they get to be like pass, fail. Oh, I get to pass judgment on these kids.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Why? I was fucking Miss Hecox. I still remember your ass. Don't think we forgot. Oh, but yes, you tried. But guess what? I'm good at math so there's you can't hold me down there are some teachers that are just like straight sadists and you know to say not to malign the many many wonderful dedicated like this is their life's work as
Starting point is 00:56:18 teachers of the world but you do think back on some of those teachers you had you're like what was your deal man like what was going on here like right i had this like older person just take all their like life's anger out on me like legit when i look back and you kind of have the wherewithal to understand like human behavior a little bit more outside of like the academic or like child adult dynamic i was like yo you were so fucking unhappy with your life. And you just got your jollies off walking in here and just acting a fool. Like that was really that was the loop you were caught in.
Starting point is 00:56:55 And unfortunately, we were calling you the teacher. Yeah. But again, like you're saying, I've luckily had so many good teachers that like could tell I was maybe like starting to check out or whatever i was just distracted i'd rather fuck around or something and they would always come like kind of you know gas you up and be like hey man you're smart like you can do this shit like just do it i'm like all right fine you got well that's such a problem with like contemporary schooling too is like we all have such specific ways of learning and retaining information and teachers have to figure out the 30 different styles of that for every kid in their class every period teachers should be making like 500 grand a year
Starting point is 00:57:30 yeah they should be the ballers of the earth like if you go to a nightclub and they're coming through a bottle service and the fucking flares you're like oh you know the teacher's in the building there should be a bunch of ugly sweaters at the booth that those. Oh, yeah. Just like sipping the crystal through straws. Yeah. Like shout out to all the teachers in the building. We got two for one drinks for teachers. Oh, I like this club. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:54 We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back to find out why red wine is like weed. Seriously, you guys. Weed. Seriously, you guys. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah. I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early
Starting point is 00:59:57 years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.
Starting point is 01:00:23 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things
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Starting point is 01:02:05 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's see, Marjorie Taylor Greene has just been eating mask fines. Like, they're, I don't know. What is Marjorie Taylor Greene? I feel like she's a heavy protein diet based on watching her workouts.
Starting point is 01:02:28 She probably eats like cliff bars that she like dusts in protein dust. Yeah, yeah. Like she'll lick a protein bar and then like salt bae some protein, like whey protein on it. And then eat that. Yeah, that feels like what it is.
Starting point is 01:02:42 So she's the house's most outspoken anti-vaxxer posting videos of her workouts to demonstrate her physical fitness or not knowing what a HIPAA violation is she's you know just always disregarding health and safety and like what one of the ways she's doing that is just not giving a fuck about paying a an anti-masker or a mask fine she okay so if you remember after january 6th when a lot of members got covid because they were in close spaces together and they were begging people to wear masks they're like fuck this we're not fucking around anymore it's a fine you fuck around the first time it's 500 you want to go again it's 2500 for your second offense and then everyone thereafter so it's not it's not cheap but500 for your second offense and then everyone thereafter.
Starting point is 01:03:26 So it's not cheap. But she's recently like, you know, she's also goes back and forth between this shit where she's like, don't ask me my vaccination status. It's a HIPAA violation. To then saying literally this as a quote out loud, quote, I'm not vaccinated either and I won't be getting vaccinated. And that's my own personal choice. I support people that want the vaccine. If anybody wanted one, I would drive them to go get one because I support people's freedom to make their own decisions.
Starting point is 01:03:51 No, you don't. And you've said a bunch of stuff that would make it seem like you were a fool to get a vaccination. The workout thing, she was claiming that by being in shape, she doesn't need to get the vaccine. Doesn't need it because I'm fucking ripped. I'm equipped. And the immune system is lit and so this is her sort of whole energy out there
Starting point is 01:04:10 with just trying to underscore the fact that it's not necessary don't need it no thanks well she just was asked recently like yo what's up with these fries like they're not cheap she told a reporter at the hill she's like yeah I'm up to 63,000 now that's okay just so you know a member of the house makes 174,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So she's over a third. She's just kissed a third of her paycheck. Goodbye. And before you ask, the answer is yes, that shit comes straight out the paycheck. That's not a thing where you get hit with a bill and you can just, you know, take it, send it to, you know, collections. They take it directly out of your paycheck. So that's money gone.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Send it to collections. I'm sure. I bet part of her would be like, yeah, fuck it. I don't give a fuck. Go ahead. Yeah, come on. I'm looking at your credit report, Marjorie. And I see you got the U.S. Congress in your collections.
Starting point is 01:05:02 What, you ripped a video? We'll settle it for 55 55 she's like oh but i mean that's where i'm like i'm sure she has some cool dark money ways uh that are totally above board that are helping offset that for her to be the loudest person just making a stand for stupidity here's the thing too man i don't know where y'all from but where i'm from We don't respect niggas who lose money. We don't. Yeah, like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:30 It's foolish. You know, like you fucking up your money, bro. You like for what? For what? Like, you know, like even Kyrie. Like for what, dude? For what? Like for belief.
Starting point is 01:05:43 You better believe in getting this paper. Like what the fuck is wrong with you like and i know like there's some progressives out there it shouldn't be all about money get the fuck out of here like we don't respect us fucking up our money you know because we need your money is a crime in certain cultures it's a crime up your money or fucking ups if someone says you fucking up my money i would start running because that's yeah and like that you don't want to here's the thing that has never been just a black and a white thing or or rich or poor thing like everybody universally accept it we don't fuck up our money that's been like a universally accepted thing and like there's not and we've gotten to a place now where people are so into
Starting point is 01:06:29 their it's not even a belief system that's the thing that's crazy if it was a true belief system then fine i may not believe i may not agree with your belief system i may think is rooted in a whole bunch of problematic things but a true belief system whatever this is out of spite this is out of politics this is out of just i want to be on the opposing side of you and you fucking up your money for that for that that's what i'm saying but that's where i think but i think that's where those dynamics aren't at play right because if let's say she wasn't she's really going to be like i don't really need that paycheck and i mean i know she's wealthy daddy has a lot of money and that's she's comes from generation she has like generational wealth
Starting point is 01:07:19 to fall back on but yeah i mean that's where like that's why i believe her calculus is a little bit different because there is the on on some level it's probably very lucrative for her to continue this because that is in service of you know another of uh a donor's agenda or just generally uh like the the party the the the cultural tone of the republican which is like yeah yeah good that's great and we'll figure out ways to get you money. You'll be okay. You'll make more money, in fact, by taking these fines. It drives home the point that laws that are enforced with fines are laws that don't apply to rich people.
Starting point is 01:07:54 No. Right. I know. I mean, that's yeah, I get that. It just, something in my soul hurts when I hear somebody willingly walking through a door and be like well just lost 2,500 today like that just hurts yeah and maybe it's maybe it's the poor black man in me uh you know the the old poor chicago in me but uh because you know niggas
Starting point is 01:08:18 out here making money now so you know i'm saying i can afford to lose like 200 you know what i'm saying now you know. But even then, you're like sweating before you lose $200. You're like, uh-huh. Right. I'm still, I clutch my visible pearls saying that, man. Like $200 and I ain't getting nothing for it. In the back of your mind, you're like, no, man. Let's be real.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I don't think it'll ever feel good to throw away $200. It's wild. It's wild. But she's wild. Yeah. But that's not. Have you seen her do pull-ups that's what that is the definition of like whipping her like lowered body body yeah body
Starting point is 01:08:52 whips to get your get to get your chin above the bar sure all right we'll talk about ridley scott's interview on yesterday's trending so go check that. But I do have to follow through on the flight attendant reveal. Okay. Because, you know, people, I tease it up top. And just like a local news tease, it's wildly unsatisfying. But what we learn in this, one tone is a passenger hitting up a flight attendant. Oh, so boom is somebody said, like, call attendant button on their seat exactly oh yeah yeah yeah high to low time means one flight attendant is signaling another uh or that the
Starting point is 01:09:32 flight deck is trying to reach them and then three tones means an emergency oh no that's the one you don't want to hear that's okay damn three tones usually is good too man on like game shows you get three tones that means you won yeah yeah damn i you know what i i love this i love this and i also hate this too because you know my anxiety would be like was that three tones i know yo yo was that three tones like that i can see myself doing that three tones uh like that i can see myself doing that if i was like in my feelings on the flight one day which i'm not scared to fly at all but every once in a while i'll be in the air and every once in a while this is rare but i'll be in the air and i'll be like if this plane went down oh yeah we dead yeah and that's like a good 10 minutes of anticipation of death
Starting point is 01:10:26 yeah like that that sounds awful i'll look around the fucking cabin and i'll start hearing mad world playing and i'm just like looking at the other passengers i'm like this is the memorial video when this should go down look there was that little family right there. Right. Right. Yeah. We're going to be on a t-shirt. Have you heard, too, that flight attendants have their own secret code? Yeah. That they, like, when you're walking on a plane and they're greeting you or you're leaving and they're greeting you, like, if they, like, compliment you or something, it's not just a compliment. That's them telling other flight attendants around them
Starting point is 01:11:05 that in case of emergency, this person looks like they can help us or some shit like that. Oh, interesting. Have you ever heard that? Oh, that's it. They're always like, sir, your biceps are like Christmas hams. Right this way.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I'm like, oh, thank you. You're being really kind. Thank you so much. Just patting me on the back, rubbing my shoulders. All right, champ. Yeah. Yeah, right. How you doing? thank you so much just patting me on the back rubbing my shoulders all right yeah yeah all right how you doing you look like you look real happy today you do a p90x no actually i sit actually for nine hours a day straight i'm more like human veal if anything
Starting point is 01:11:38 what do you think it means when i get on they say nerd alert to each other is that well that means that means that if they need some like if somebody passed out and they need What do you think it means when I get on, they say nerd alert to each other? Is that... That means that if they need some... Like, if somebody passed out and they need some science tips, you know what I'm saying? They need somebody like, yo, who know the periodic table on here? Quick, the plane's going down!
Starting point is 01:11:58 The plane's going down, we need periodic table! How many valence electrons does uranium have? Right. So you, that means he's a hero. That's a hero. You're a hero. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Okay. They're going to come right to 33B and come grab you. Because we know Jack only sit in the back of the plane. You know what I'm saying? They're like, come on, Jack. Right next to the bathrooms. I love that smell. Right next to the bathrooms.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah. Give it to me. You need it. I'm like 92 protons, electrons there was come on there was an article this was a few years ago i first of all let me just precursor this by saying i would sue the fuck out of southwest if this ever happened on a plane with me but there was an article where it's funny too where the pilot accidentally hit the we're going down but set that over the fucking loudspeakers prepare for crash emerging to land yeah yeah he accidentally hit it or some shit and people lost their fucking minds bro because it was like a smooth flight or
Starting point is 01:12:59 like it wasn't like turbulence and it's like an automated message i i mean i guess so i guess it was i would think that that wouldn't be boom boom boom hot shit we're going down down baby you're like oh what the fuck really hell yeah man now look if nelly played on my way down that i would be like you know what this is a life well lived and then you're like oh i know this shit's going down if they're playing now if you're hearing this it's too late right oh they only got black music for going down oh yeah we fucked all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the the show, uh, means the world to miles. He, he needs your validation folks. Uh, I hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk to you
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Starting point is 01:15:57 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlinlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
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