The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 205 (Best of 12/6/21-12/10/21)

Episode Date: December 12, 2021

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the greatest stand-ups, funniest podcasters doing it anywhere. You've seen her on HBO's Two Dope Queens and heard her on her podcast Dork Forest and The Jackie and Laurie Show. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Jackie Kayshun!

Yay! I feel welcome! What's up? And I will not be breaking into song. My loss. Their loss. Yeah, our loss for sure. Some say love. No. Come on. Just a straight down the middle. Just straight. Just doing something out of Gary Rolfe, 97. Love it. Jackie, that's it. Love it. Jackie, where are you coming to us from?

What part of the cursed landscape are you at right now? God's green earth. We're talking Hollywood, Hollywood, Florida, where, weirdly enough, it looks like carrion birds are floating in the sky. I wonder if you can see them. But it's not good. It's not good. But there's a lot of music-themed art. I'm surrounded. And I don't know

anything about... I listen to music. I'm not a monster. But I don't... I haven't watched that documentary. There's a giant picture downstairs that I just tweeted. I said, I think it's a heavy metal. I know he's hugely famous.

He's wearing a bandana as a hat. I don't know who he is. And everybody, feel free to guess. And then in two hours, when I'm done with this zeitgeist, I will post a picture and you all go, how could you not know? How did you not know that?

It's a bandana hat. My favorite type of genre of music themed art is things that are shaped as like musical instruments right and you were sharing before we recorded that you are in fact in a hotel shaped like a guitar yeah and you know those uh you know when they line you up like cattle to check into a hotel. Right. The posts are all guitars. Oh, everything's a guitar. Yeah. Like for like rope and stanchion.

Like that kind of thing. But it's a book. Isn't that like way more of a footprint? Yeah. It's oh, this whole thing is a footprint. It's the devil's thumb. It is sticking out of the Everglades or wherever the hell I am. Like, like, like a giant footprint.

This thing. When the aliens come, they'll be like, oh, they didn't like this planet at all. Right. No, no. They're like, oh, so they were trying to kill it. Oh, it makes sense now why it's dead. Stab, stab, stab. This is a giant knife into the earth.

That's what this is. The art in my room is something, and I'd show it to you, but of course it's a hotel art, so it's, of course, nailed to the wall. But it's guitar picks. Guitar picks shaped like stuff. Yes. Very cool. Nothing is more metal, nothing is more rock and roll than things shaped like guitars.

Than hotel, mass-made hotel art. With guitar picks. Than, like, macaroni art, art with guitar picks. That's all it is. Then like macaroni art but with guitar picks. Hell yeah. Yes, that's exactly

what we're talking about. I think my lamp is a drum. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's like, this has got to be so weird. You're like,

and they're like, fuck, my lamp's a drum, the toilet's a drum stool. Look, it's one of those symbol hats instead of a fridge. Yeah, whatever. That would be what they serve the burger in.

Oh, yeah. The symbol hat, the hi-hat opens up and there's a burger inside. But it's smashed because it's too... If they aren't doing that, they're actually leaving money on the table. That's right. And I'm guessing the elevator is just rife with rock quotes, right?

Oh, there's something going on. I don't know what's happening, except for no one with masks. That's what we know. A lot of people, a lot of things not happening here in Florida. A lot of people living on a prayer. My favorite philosopher, Eric Clapton, has always said, you don't need that. You don't need that fucking mask. Don't let the government tell you what to do.

I had a moment at LAX yesterday. I tweeted about it, but I was in an elevator going up to the Delta Sky Club. I travel a lot, you guys. I'm in the Delta Sky Club. It's very glamorous. Anyway, it's a tiny elevator. Me, two other middle-aged women, and an older man. Demographic, just so you know.

The man's Middle Eastern. Might be Arabic or Armenian or something. I'm Armenian, so I can almost tell. And then there's an Asian woman and another middle-aged white lady. And we're all going up this elevator. We're packed like sardines. But we're all wearing masks. And I make the joke that I make now in a packed elevator, which is we're packed in here like it's 2019.

I'm not saying it's super funny, but sometimes it'll get a laugh. And I'm a desperate, desperate comedian. So I get a laugh. And then the guy says, this is all ridiculous. You know, this is just a plot. Oh, hell yeah giant silence buzz kill on on inside this tiny tiny elevator and we were all shocked and so i just said back you didn't want to stay living and then the doors open and he walks out and he goes i get to say

that you know it's freedom of speech. And I get to, and I said, me too, man. Look what we just did. You said something. I said something. The whole thing. And then I lived in hope that he wasn't going to the Sky Club. Chris Crofton, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Well, besides abandoned mine exploration, which is like my main, I mean, honestly, it's like become a problem. Yeah, you've been on that pretty consistently. Yeah, and I've never been in a mine.

I mean, why would you ever go into a mine? They're so dangerous and people are doing it on YouTube for you. They're loaded with false floors. That's all they talk about. Would you go to an abandoned mine if we took you to one? Fuck yes, I would. And I would go in underprepared. I'd go in with my cell phone light.

I'd go in with my cell phone light. 10% battery left on your cell phone light. You got flip flops on. Dude, you might want a covered toe at least. Oh my god, I would totally go. But i won't go because you have to like you know trespass like go do it i mean i'm not really if someone took me there and like it'd be one of those things where i'd have to like join a tour you know right zeitgang if you know any abandoned minds that are safe please hit us up we'd love to make a tour happen for chris crofton uh i just

want to talk about the stuff you know like, like gobbing. Gobbing is when they store the rocks in the wall and like what the big hollow part where they already pulled all the ore out is called a stope. And I mean, I have all these meanings. I know everything. Winds and drifts and I mean, I know every word and the people in the videos, that's

all they do too. I mean, they think they're hot shit. Right. You're like, that's just a word for where they got the ore yeah they're not fucking miners but they love fucking saying like like beating each other to saying that's gobbing that's gobbing right you may think you're a hot shot abandoned mine explorer youtube star but you ain't shit in my book okay but seriously as far as i'm concerned that's blackface in that you put you smudge your face with coal to look like a coal miner and trying to act like you know about the mine wait so what do they do with the rocks that they got while hollowing out the part that they

stick the rocks in i'm very confused by the physics they take the rocks that they've taken out of the stope which is the part where they pulled the ore out of, which, you know, people enjoy saying that because they say stope. That's one of the main things. Yeah, those are great words. These are awesome. Stope words.

Gobbing and stoping, one of my favorites. Yeah, winds. They talk about false floors. False floors they talk about a lot. That's just like a hazard. They're like, that's a false floor right there. And are those specifically designed that way? Like by just mischievous

miners with murder on their mind? Like wizards? Like Donkey Kong or something? No, I don't think so. It was, because these mines were done before. These are like mostly like turn of the century,

like 1900. They didn't know about Donkey Kong. Yeah. But they probably did some, they probably rolled barrels at each other and had to jump over. I mean, it was boring as fuck down yeah yeah all they did was smoke prince albert i mean that's all there is in there is like prince albert cans and anyway uh

they they uh they they take the rocks out of the stope and then they put them behind sometimes they put them behind some timbers like in the wall like they basically so it's just like closer a closer place to put the rocks yes basically they're just like trying to like figure out how to not take it to the surface yeah so they like to put it behind wall but they some they put it behind some timbers that's called gobbing right and then if they put it in the like in a tunnel they already went down then they they call that backfilling and they like to speculate whether it's a collapse or backfill they're always like is that a collapse or is that backfill and then if you have like a mini argument you know and it's also the same by the way this is not your search history this is welcome first time listeners to a first propped up episode

i mean i'm all right i'll get'll get back to the subject at hand, even though the subject at hand for me is always abandoned mine exploration. And I guess I would say since I have this podcast called Cold Brew Got Me Like That you can listen to on all the platforms. I've been looking for videos, you know, or stories that I've when I was younger, I read this story about this guy who ordered food from a UFO. And I've always been looking for that story. It's like a guy, it's a chicken farmer from 1961 who said he saw a craft that had men with turtlenecks with Italian accents in it. And they offered him food and he said yes. And then he actually has one of the pancakes like he kept one of them like and he took them to a lab and they said that

like they tested it quick yeah they tested it in like 1961 so i doubt they probably just like put their tongue on it you know right right and they were like they said it was mostly made of grease which i also don't even think is a scientific term right wait so this is a non-fiction story yes this is supposed to be a non-fiction story and i just like on the last podcast we talked about this but it's something i've been looking for because i couldn't find it i think when i was younger i bought this reader Reader's Digest. I think it's called Strange Mysteries book. It's like a hardcover book. Like anybody who grew up in the 80s or 70s, 80s, I'd say, knows when they did those like Time Life series. Like World of Strange Monsters.

Get a volume every like one month to get Bigfoot. Next month to get Yeti. I mean, this is the golden age. Yes. of strange monsters get a volume every like one month to get bigfoot next month to get yeti i mean this is right old golden age yes and um you know they chopped up the book into like 20 volumes but this was like before readers digest figured that out so they put out one hardcover book with all the strange mysteries of the whole world and it's really pretty exhaustive it's like wow and it's and one of the stories was this guy who ordered food from a UFO. And I just thought, I just, I just, it blew me away because I mean, if this, first of all, if you saw a UFO, would you be hungry anymore?

Yeah. Even if you were hungry before. I mean, maybe the UFO picked him out as somebody. They were just like that guy went based on our amazing futuristic technology. That guy could use a fucking pancake. There's so many good parts about this story because he's from Kansas, so he said Italian accents. What does that mean to him? That's what he calls an alien accent.

He sounded like my buddy Terry Facinelli. He's like, there was a UFO with Italians in it. He just means aliens. People with dark hair. Italians had huge heads and they were green, typical Italians. Right. was a ufo with italians in it you know and it's like he just means aliens yeah right people with dark italians and huge heads and they were green you know typical italians right and then i just think the idea that somehow you have the presence of mind during ufo sighting to agree to eat some food he also said he got them some water and he said they were wearing turtlenecks and i just like the idea of like what did this drunk chicken farmer actually right yeah right i think he wandered

into like back in the area of a bowling alley where they set the pins right and ate like a thing of uh yeah and he met some like like yeah he met a couple of italians who were like wearing turtlenecks yeah and they just like he gave him some french fries told him to go home and he kept one of them in his pocket and took it to a lab there you go it was a frittata they're like i'll have some of that pancake yeah yeah he's like it was like a mexican food truck it was like something like that it was like yeah italians wearing turtlenecks i like if it were aliens though we're like yo check this guy let's see if we can get him to eat our shit. Call it a pancake. Just like, yes, idiot. All right.

Want to probe him? No, it's boring. Let's try and get him some pancakes. Call it a pancake. Oh, dude, he ate it. Later. Idiot. That was mostly grease. Yeah.

The lowest stakes alien encounter. Anyway, I just love it. I've always wanted to know what that guy really saw. Because if you're a chicken farmer in 1961, you are drunk. Oh, yeah. Has that myth extended? Does he have extended fans? Can we find someone now who's like, I spoke to him.

I would like to have a podcast on iHeartRadio where I could do that very thing with a team. Just go find, yeah. And I've pitched it to you guys over and over again. Find the fucking chicken farmer. Well, it's problematic because before you just said on the hunt for Italians, and I was like, what is this? Chris?

Turn of the century xenophobia? I never said that. Yeah. It was something about Payback for Columbus I want to call the podcast Italians and Turtlenecks But wait There's more

But wait There's more It's aliens serving pancakes No What do you mean This isn't a money What are you talking about You can't monetize

There's no market for this Give me one episode I'll show you Give me the president Give me the president He'll fucking understand. He'll get it. Yeah, Joe Biden will get it.

What is something you think is overrated? So overrated, I was saying, I think, raccoons. Because I was having this debate with some folks. Was it yesterday or the day before? And they were trying to tell me that raccoons are cute and they're just rodents, right? They're rodents with like little hands and they're terrifying. So I think raccoons are overrated.

It's a very New England appropriate topic, perhaps. I don't know. Do you guys have raccoons? You must have raccoons. Oh, yeah. I see them always cruising at night, you know? Like there's one in my like near my neighborhood who walks with so much confidence it's fucking scary right just like so slow like cars are like almost hitting it's always on the same street like around like later at night and i'm like here's that fucking punk ass raccoon

whatever the opposite of rocket raccoon is like slow slow boat raccoon i don't know i mean like i feel whenever i see videos of like people who have like 200 pet raccoons just chill with them part of me is like i would like to be able to enter their world and maybe soften my stance rather than being like this thing that tries to fight my cats i don't i don't need i'm good do you have some that are fucking with you right now like are they not current well what's the root of this anger what i realized also that i was i was having trouble distinguishing for some reason during this particular argument about rodents between raccoons and skunks but i think i think i hate both equally i'm pretty sure there sure there's a skunk that kind of roams around our street.

We live on the coast in Boston, so near the airport on the beach. Yes, there are beaches in Massachusetts. They're probably not as nice as yours. But then at night, there's like raccoons like sound like little banshees, basically. And the first couple of times, like I didn't know that that was a raccoon. I literally thought it was like a dying baby or I don't't know it was horrible wow drew you out yeah man also bald raccoons are pretty scary looking they're like little i don't know if you've seen uh any of these pictures like a raccoon that has this parasite that robs it of its coat looks like

a hairless raccoon mushroom cut it looks like a hairless raccoon. It's a mushroom cut. It looks like a hairless raccoon. Yeah. Well, it kind of looks like, yeah, its skin is like elephantine. Oh, my God. It's just a scary, like its face is really like mean looking without the fuzzy wuzzies kind of hiding it back there.

Wow. I'm not sleeping tonight. Yeah, check it out. Everybody Google it. I will. Search it. Bald raccoon. Yeah, bald raccoon.

I just don't like the bald slander. You know what I mean? Like, why we got to go after the hair? Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, we can't all help it. You know? I used to have a mushroom cut.

Clearly, I don't right now. You can see. I did too, but. All right, so you know. The genetics robbed me, and now I'm some animal to be compared to a raccoon. That's what I was getting at. I'm glad you guys took that.

That's why I brought it up. We were sure. Hey, guys, check out this link I just found to a bald raccoon. I'm going to send it to chat. We click it. I'm like, this is my Twitter avatar, bro. The fuck is this? I'm not trying to make a terrible joke.

Hang on. Yeah. is this i'm not trying to make a terrible joke yeah yeah i mean they are pretty like they can be tough to because they have the opposable thumb they can be tough oh that's right they're so fucking smart apparently they're like their capacity for problem solving memory like lasts for years yeah so like the second they figure out how to like open some shit or navigate some kind of obstacle that shit isn't a hard drive and it's like now anytime they get in that the same situation it's like yeah yeah so i think that's probably why they're such a you know nuisance to a lot of people is because of their their hands and their their memories i don't be up at night dreaming of this deviously intelligent bald raccoon tonight.

Thank you very much. In the lab. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Everything bagel seasoning. Very specific. Everything in Trader Joe's right now. I love it, dude.

I put it on so much stuff. I'll make my girlfriend avocado toast and I started throwing that on there. Yeah. She was like, what the hell is this? And I was like, this is the perks of dating a Jew. You get so many things. I'll open your eyes to culturally, you know? She's like, what, how about some more of that whitefish salad? you know she's like what how about some more of that white fish salad yeah i love that dude i shot the opening of one of my specials at barney greengrass i don't i don't mess around i did i i did a sketch in the opening that barn legendary new york uh jewish type deli food was yeah great great spot upper west side yeah i was just i walked by there it was too crowded so i went to

essa bagel and then finished my trip at russ and daughters you know you gotta do that but uh i've got at trader joe's right did you are you getting it at trader joe's because i feel like that's where i started to see a lot more everything bagel type of shit but they have everything bagel potato chips that i was like okay let me let me fuck around really quick. And it wasn't bad. I'm not going to lie. It was a little too salty for my taste, but having that flavor on a chip was a bit of an experience. They're getting a little reckless with the chip flavors.

Yeah. I see dill pickle, and I'm like, I've got to be hammered to get dill pickle potato chips. I'm sure it's fine, but right even like pepperoncini i'm like what are we doing here guys like let's just have some chips let's just sour cream and onion sour cream and onion barbecue salt and vinegar we're doing the classics are classics for it's like when you go to a bar and they have these crazy cocktails and you're like you're getting a cocktail you're gonna get a classic cocktail let's be real right yeah yeah unless it's like

something where it's like oh we use passion fruit foam on the outs i'm like i'm like well it's 23 bucks so i know that you better i'm like if you're gonna make like if i'm gonna get some like cocktail i'm gonna get like a manhattan or a groney i'm just getting something classic unless they're like something you know you gotta have this right it kills me at some of these comedy clubs i'm like can i get a negroni they're like oh we don't have uh the ingredients i'm like well i see you know how to make a yellow gummy bear over here you can't make a negroni right right yeah classics the yellow gummy bear the manhattan you know all the great first in all the bartending arts. Yeah. All right, Sam, let's take a quick break.

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And we're back. And the hottest new souvenir from the year 2021 is the mouse mover, which is how you trick your boss into thinking you're still at your desk because that is important to them, apparently. Yeah. I mean, that's we've seen it. The this like obsession has gone from, you know, like bosses now in the work from home era seem to be more focused on things like if you're present rather than if you're productive. Right. Because we've seen all this stuff, like every single study that's come out of like the lockdowns and things have shown for people who have been able to work from home,

you know, despite the stresses that it caused from, if you're going from just a brutally productivity centric analysis, productivity has gone up. Yeah. And output has increased. Yes. Yet there's still this like just fucking evil inst like insistence on being like well what's going on you doing you sleeping at at noon for 20 minutes even though you're also

teaching kids like algebra in the other room that has also caused so much stress and i think that's why we've seen the rise of what many call bossware which are just different programs that are intended to track worker activity and it's just gone up more and more and more and you see it in things like you know a lot of people have found that they'll use you know apps like teams or slack and on some instances based on if you have like a computer owned by your company they can put software on there that says like oh if your mouse isn't moving for like a minute then it's going to set your status to away and give you a little electrical charge and the thing that they implanted in your neck right yeah exactly to the countdown it's like yeah it's like the fucking computer and lost

that you have to punch the numbers in but yeah and then so this is like obviously led to you know uh bosses sending like humiliating emails or phone calls or they're just questioning someone's like they're like what are you doing it doesn't even seem like you're doing anything you even need a job that kind of stuff and yeah we're finding out that now workers are having to find a way to push back against this nonsense in the form of like you're saying a mouse mover a simple device a simple device that pretends that moves your mouse as you try to eat lunch exactly like i'm gonna go uh get another cup of coffee i'm gonna go have a cigarette i'm gonna you know whatever you're going to do oh what a bunch of assholes that they have to we have to

create these things because product like you said productivity's up yeah that's not a that's that hasn't been an issue and i think like you're saying, which is odd enough, because if you're in an office, many people will just smoke cigarettes to give themselves a reason to fucking take a break. And you don't see people being like, what are you smoking cigarettes? It's just accepted because then there's like the idea. It's like, well, you came to the factory today. So then at least I know if you're here, then you can't be helping your family do something, navigate an incredibly stressful time. Right, right. Yeah. And it's you know, that that sort of same I think that same perspective hasn't been adopted.

But these devices like they run the fucking gamut, which is amazing, because in the beginning there was a company that started in February of 2020, like a mouse mover company. in the beginning, there was a company that started in February of 2020, like a mouse mover company. And they just did it because they're like, we know people use it for like, if you're looking at many different screens for like data analysis or things like that, sometimes you just want something like that. So the computer doesn't like, it might not have the function to know that you don't want it to go to sleep or something. So you use a mouse mover for that. But then this company just saw an just exponential uptick in sales since like April of 2020, when they realized, oh my God, I'm being watched in my own home. And the only way to combat this is if my mouse is moving. So they have like mechanical

ones that you just rest your mouse on and it just kind of goes like left to right to just kind of keep it moving. They have other like USB devices you can plug in that will just tell your computer that there's like a mouse being moved. So it will no matter what, you can just do whatever you need to, but the observing eyes that be won't know. And some, they're also just YouTube videos too. I didn't realize that have like these moving graphics and you have like, if you have an optical mouse, it will actually like create, like it'll create movement in the cursor again so you can just run a video and people are going to think you're working that you're that you're doing something and what you're really doing is playing lords of water deep on steam but uh you know i also need to move my mouse for that right uh wow Why? I've never understood. I mean, granted, I do stand up, so there's not a lot of oversight, right?

And but I never understood, you know, when I when I had day jobs, why there was so many shit bags, right? Like, why? What do you care? Am I doing the job? Like, I remember I used this stuff envelopes for some gig. the job is like, I remember I used this stuff envelopes for some gig. I worked at a nonprofit and this, this, my boss told me how to stuff envelopes and address envelopes for this mailing. And she explained it, took 15, 16 minutes to explain it. And then she said, do you understand? And I said, mostly, I'm going to probably have to ask you two more times as I do this,

how to do it again. And she was like, what? And I said, yeah, I don't care. I mean, I don't get a lot of my self-esteem whether I, whether I got this right the first time. I just want to do it how you want it done. Cause I don't like, I would be really good as like a prep cook because I don't care how I cut the vegetables, but the chef does. And most people go to work, they don't want to take it home with them. We're not all inventors, right? So, yeah, I'll do it however you want. But then when it's done, don't stare at me. I'm going to do it and then get the hell out of my way.

Yeah, there's, we've talked before the theory of bullshit jobs essay and then book written by David Graeber that argues that like half of the jobs of societal work is like pointless and like just there that because productivity, like you said, is up. So that's not what they're that's not what they're worrying about. They're worrying about whether you are being like whether the quality of your life is being diminished by their like power and control. It's not anything about productivity and effectiveness yeah yeah or for people to recontextualize what it means to work too right because if you're like wait well i'm working but i'm also doing this other stuff why don't i do more of that you can't be feeling that comfortable because this whole financial system is based on the threat of homelessness and starvation to coerce you and

to keep working. So I don't start loosening your definitions of what it means to survive. We can't have that. So you better have that fucking mouse moving is, I don't know, very low stakes, but it's, it's one of these things that's been across the board, just been denounced. You know, the electronic frontier foundation calls Bossware, you know, invasive, unnecessary, unethical. The Center for Democracy and Technology called it out as being, quote, actively detrimental to employees' health and demanding that like OSHA actually updates its policies so that like on worker safety to also include like at-home workers, just like this kind of weird, you know patrol like

productivity patrol that's like unnecessary right right because it's not like we're not all accepting that you know like there's a tv in this room this this ipad i don't know who else is watching but i've sort of accepted that i'm probably never alone and. And there's cameras in this casino, in this hotel. But there's absolutely no reason for me to for anyone to check in and go, hey, by the way, I am watching you. I'm just like, well,

the low-level hum of me being watched at all times is already there. You don't need to poke it. Please don't prod that open world. i heard yeah the panopticon is real all right let's talk about kamala harris politico has a i guess this is like a hit piece or something yo they got her ass yeah wow done Politico doing the fucking Lord's work of meaningless nonsense journalism. I just want to read this headline of this article that came out earlier this week. It said Kamala Harris is Bluetooth phobic. Huh? What? What does that even mean? Like she discriminates against bluetooth users she has an exclusive after people somebody with a bluetooth uh right does she have like an exclusive beats by dre deal that doesn't allow her to use

non-wired headphones like what is happening exactly and this is what they say quote while a growing number of consumers are going wireless the vice president is sticking with the classics she has long felt that bluetooth headphones are a security risk. As a result, Harris insists on using wired headphones. Three former campaign aides told West wing playbook. Okay. Is that not care?

Is that not fit for office? I mean like, huh? Well, let's go on. Let me, let me, they go.

Okay. That okay. Political thinking. All right. That wasn't enough for you. Allow us to maybe expand on this. Former aides say that the vice president has long been careful about security and technology, with some describing it as prudent and others suggesting it is a bit paranoid. It's a recurring theme. And they talk about how when she was. Oh, this is another one.

And another former aide, when she was attorney general inifornia said that when a person arrived for a meeting staff were instructed not to allow them to wait in harris's office alone okay what the fuck is this article like this is she's the new richard nixon this is yeah i'm not the biggest kamala harris fan as most listeners of this show know but like what the fuck is this exactly what is the point i'm really curious what the fucking quote-unquote journalists who did this what what was this piece adding what did we need to know about this because they made they like did a collage of all these photos of her wearing like wired apple headphones and they're like look at her dude like she's got these like wired headphones on. And I think part of it is probably some anti-black woman bias. And they're just finding

some shit to just be like, fuck it, man. She doesn't, she hates Bluetooth. I guess that's something we can say to try and make her look different from the mainstream. But I'm not even like, I don't even, this is just so weird because if that's, who gives a shit about what her like her priorities are around like OPSEC, operational security? If she thinks Bluetooth, she's not comfortable with it, who gives a fuck? Just help me, somebody. They're using quotes from former aides and staffers. Just ask a security expert, this like over over the top

or not they don't because it it is you can yeah you can be hacked like yeah what has anyone point has anyone met like a older person or like even an older person of color yeah people you know i have aunts and uncles who have thoughts around ops, their own operational security. They're like, no, I don't use that shit. I don't like, I don't like that my car,

I can't use that physical key on that because you don't know what's going to happen. Like I, this seems very normal to me, but again, this was just like part of a, I don't know,

clickbait failure over at Politico. I feel like after a former secretary of state's private email server was hacked in a basement maybe we should be a little bit more paranoid than not like maybe maybe it's okay to use headphones it's fine also it's like this this feels like it's either stupid or it's like weirdly nefarious because it gets to paint her because everyone knows that this is stupid so it's also like oh we're attacking her unfairly for no reason and if we're attacking her unfairly for this then maybe real things that she is being fairly attacked for we're also attacking her unfairly for

you know what i mean so it gives her weird cover for like oh everyone's just being you know sexist and racist for me and they did it for the bluetooth stuff so they're also doing it for you know x y and z they're like immigration stuff yeah whatever yeah exactly so it's like it there's it's yeah there's it's lose lose all around it's like it's almost like clickbait journalism is destroying everything yeah well meanwhile like we're looking at you know just oh the most some of them like no not some like the most aggressive moves towards voter suppression we've seen yes in our lived memory and meanwhile we're devoting inches and coverage to like this bluetooth thing because i mean this is something we've talked about or just mentioned touched on

too is just that this is just all like the media's huge hand in allowing all of this shit to just crumble by the wayside because that has an inability to actually say like hey man the country's really fucked up right now and like shit's gonna get fucking terrible if we don't get a hold of like just just the most basic voting rights yeah to start off with but instead we're talking about fucking you know why doesn't she have airpods yeah and i think people like see this and it tunes in it's frustrating because it tunes people out from like paying attention to the news more and more because you're like i'm not even seeing anything real and this is what it is it's like i saw there's this morning that i mean it's

unrelated to this specifically but i saw this morning that it was like a pfizer ceo was like i think we're gonna need the fourth shot even faster than the third one. And I was like, can we just like not talk to these people? Can you just shut the, like, I just, I,

I hate the news and it's so frustrating because it also gives like people that say all news is fake news, like even more and more ammo. Cause I'm just like, yeah, I also, I get where you're coming from with half of this shit because this is yeah this is a bullshit story get out of the way yeah all news is fucking coward news no one wants to fucking say the thing past don't go

like rather than saying like i don't know this fucking pharma grifter says we should give him more money yeah like that's that's just treat that quote like that. Yeah, exactly. Have a more holistic, you know, reporting around saying things like, this is how much Pfizer and Moderna have made. This is how much Pfizer stands to make from their therapeutics that they're developing. There's so many other things that you can be like telling people real things, while also giving them an actual accounting of what the stakes are, what the dynamics are around the story, because all they do is just give you this shit in a vacuum, no context. And if you're not paying attention, you're going to think nothing's wrong.

Nothing's, you know, gone awry at all. Yeah. The worst thing is that Kamala doesn't use headphones that are, you know, Bluetooth. That are cool. The worst thing. Yeah. The worst thing is there are people dying for their first shot of a vaccine. But we've we've entrusted this with just greedy fucking goblins yeah and just only focusing

like well yeah in america maybe you should get that third or fourth like i think there is i truly think there's a direct line between like shit like this and the vaccine and like vaccine hesitancy because like the mainstream media is fully bought into like the whole like corporate neoliberal like ideal that is killing people that like is making people like making us the loneliest we've ever been like it that has completely taken over how we communicate with one another and like turned it into, you know, the most basic part of being a human being is like interacting with other human beings. And we've turned that into like a algorithmically like monitored and monetized and like manipulated thing. Like so that people are going to react negatively to that and the mainstream media just

has a complete like inability to cope with that and there is already a reactionary kind of option on the right and so that's why like things are moving so fucking out of control in that direction and like the left hasn't really figured out its alternative strategy right well i mean i think that's why you need more independent media and also just like for people to demand that these people actually say something that is counter to what their corporate benefactors dictate to them. Like it's that you can't, it's like, cause you already know, like we already know that if on MSNBC,

they said, we need to actually be breaking down how much money is being made and like also put people in the front of their mind because the most important thing about getting through this pandemic globally is to have as many people inoculated as possible. But if we're not hammering home that that's a problem and that there's also, there's corporate greed, national,

there's like this weird nationalistic fucking greed that's happening with who's being shared with what. If that's not being talked about, then there's no context. And yeah, it's just, why fucking pay attention? Because it's just going to sound like a bunch of, you know, chaos constantly yeah yeah but i don't know i think that at the end of the day like i think you'd hope that more and more

people rather than just being like man the fucking news is fake it's not that it's fake it's that it's being presented to you by people who don't even live on the same fucking planet as you right you know what i mean like we're getting the weather on Mars and being told that that's the temperature on Earth. But no, these people live in a completely different reality, completely divorced from the existential threats that most working people or marginalized people face. So to expect them to actually come with a real proper accounting of what's happening, I think it's just an impossible task at this point. And we just see that's, you know, we just see that over and over. Yeah. And it's like, that's also how you see like a story like this come out, because I can

guarantee you this story happened because like a bunch of people were like at drinks after the office in DC with a few reporters. And they were like, you know, I heard about Kamala. She doesn't do this headphone thing. And then because they're all boring and stupid, they all talk about it because they're all boring and stupid they all talk about it because they got nothing real in their lives and then that's how it becomes a story they're like oh you don't google it okay remember when she says we did it joe wired headphones okay when she did this thing wired headphones you're like oh shit he's right yeah fucking always wired headphones yeah you could feel the wine glass in their hand as

they're like oh it's an interesting little ball that we discovered did you guys read the jeremy strong profile in the new yorker that everybody was like this guy is absurd no i haven't read it it's so he is like a lot but it gave me this like very strong feeling that this one also gives me that it's like journalism as cool kids making fun of like a dork like yeah where like the the writer of the new yorker profile like for disclosure jeremy strong it plays kendall roy yeah sorry sorry yeah that should be disclosed not expecting everyone to be like oh yeah jeremy strong yeah so kendall roy yeah sorry sorry yeah that should be disclosed not expecting everyone to be like oh yeah jeremy strump yeah so kendall wrote like the pieces like he takes himself very seriously as an actor doesn't realize the show succession is a comedy is like what you mean

like in the sense that checkoff's a comedy and they're like no in the sense that it's like funny but it's just like a lot of like quotes from the people who work with him that are like this guy's real real annoying but it's also like written by somebody who went to yale with him so like it's like probably someone who's just like this guy fucking he's lame let's right it just i don't think for me another guy went to yale right yeah i'm not trying to hate, but, you know, it's all. Well, people are looking at each other. It's like, I don't give a fuck about this. Like what?

I don't know. It's entertaining, like how seriously he takes himself. But I also feel like, I don't know, this idea of like the media as just the cool kids making fun of and the cool kids in the sense of they're not actually cool but like they're the the popular kids making fun of right fucking people who are dorks just yeah feels again like could we possibly make the mainstream media more hate hateable right i think they've every time i think that they've like cracked the ceiling i'm like oh no there's a whole nother floor. I didn't even realize it.

Very cool. Darling, hold my wine glass. Yeah, and it's just to, like, fill pages and shit because it's also,

like, we love Daniel Day-Lewis for that shit. The exact same thing. You're like, oh, DDL, like,

became Abraham Lincoln. Cool. Yeah, but he's, like, a poser. He wants to be Daniel Day-Lewis.

Like, that's legitimately, he, like, idolizes Daniel Day day lewis and like follows them around and like apprentices under him and but it's just like wait jeremy strong does that's in there yeah yeah he's like from the time he was like in high school he's been obsessed with daniel day lewis and dustin hoffman and like all the you know if

anything it just sounds like this article just says, bro, no better person could play Kendall Roy than Jeremy Strong. That's right. And that is the argument. They're like, right. Like more than anything, this man is living it. Yeah. Good or bad. Right.

So, yeah, that's the whole damn point. And how dare somebody actually like really work hard and not put everything they have into their dream? You know, what a loser. And then just succeed in it. I just couldn't get past the feeling that this is like one yell guy making fun of another yell guy. It's like,

I bet I wouldn't like this writer either. They probably showed up with the same cable net sweater to a party one time and just held it against him forever because he looked better in it. I should have been doing push looked better in it. Right. He's like, I should have been doing push-ups this week.

Exactly. If Crew hadn't been canceled on Wednesday, my arms would be looking great. Instead, I look doughy. Doughy decimal system. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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And we're back and you know as part of what what we've been talking about since this show started but you know just in the previous act of you know all of us being in a state of like kind of forced cognitive dissonance where we're like, but that's not the truth. But we live in a world that doesn't acknowledge the truth and like exists on the foundation of a lie. So one of the kind of embarrassing for from the outside, probably to anybody who's like kind of viewing this objectively in the future future one of the embarrassing trends that will show up in history books from this period is regression like how much we need to regress to our childhood to get through day-to-day life and there's a new kind of high watermark in that with this with this fisher price working baby phone. Yeah, I think every person knows what we're talking about.

Just picture the iconic 1961 Fisher-Price chatter phone. It's a phone with the rotary wheel and then literal like car wheels on the side has like a smiling face on it. And it's all very colorful. They've made a Bluetooth enabled accessory out of this. And the promotional photos are just so funny to me and haunting because a lot of the pictures are full blown adults in their 30s and 40s. Like using this toy phone.

And they're like, ha ha, I'm talking to mom on toy phone. Yeah. And I get look, nostalgia is huge. But there's just something about this that just really i don't know like it just to see people seem like they're being saved by using this instead of their phone i think speaks volumes but at the same time part i would be lying if i said that shit's kind of funny to me that would be stupid to have yeah and i think that's kind of you know sort of what the what the mission is right now with Fisher-Price. They found a new niche for themselves to be like, come on, babies.

Yeah. Bring it back to one. Bring it back to Fisher-Price. Oh, yeah. Like, they're selling, like, reselling the products to the adults now that they used as kids as repurposed as, like, actual. Oh, hell yeah. This is the future. They're going to sell an actual car that you

can drive on the highway but it's shaped like that fisher price car like the orange one with the yellow roof and you know people will drive it even though you will die immediately and regular people driving 1996 camrys have to put up with that shit. Right. Right. Like, hello, I'm driving an ironic car. How are you? Yes. Or like mini, mini Little Tikes kitchens. They're like, I prefer to actually cook in here. It's a lot simpler.

Yeah, those little houses. We have an open floor plan and we have a Fisher Price kitchen. We have a kitchen is done. We had it done by a developer or whatever kitchen people are called and uh we had it yeah it's the whole thing is like your kids it's like that's an easy bake oven but it's really like you know very expensive oven oh yeah they're like that's a viking that's a viking range it's a viking but it's like we got the stuff on the outside right it looks like all repurposed which means like we're fun people yeah also i noticed and do you guys have a regular

toilet in there i just saw the big one my first body no that's it and what okay so when i'm done with it do you empty oh yeah yeah you empty it we have we have people we have people yeah yeah for your chain we make them dress up like little Fisher-Price work people. Yeah. Yellow helmet. Where the fuck am I? But it seems like, yeah, this trend is going to continue. But there's something this just felt like really truly, I don't

know, like we're, I feel like this is like we're only going to see things ramp up from here. Yeah. Because it does seem like a huge thing. Like people love, especially with the pandemic too. And like trying to just resort to whatever quite literally makes you the most comfortable.

And people have been like, yeah, I'm just going to wear like sick ass pajamas or like this, like influx I've seen of like, just like leisure robes for people to wear. Everything's just about comfort at this point. So if, if you need to be a baby on your phone

yeah i you know it's hard enough huh i do have a lawnmower that has a colorful ball uh popcorn popper on the top that i do my chores with but but that's actually that's just cool like okay like that has nothing to do with me. Regressing. In defense of these people, the capitalistic model of endless growth means these people are like, listen, Fisher-Price is done. We've done it all. There's nothing else we can do.

But they still have to have meetings and stuff. So someone's like, wow, I guess we could... What about those customers from 40 years ago that were buying stuff? I don't know. Sell it to them now. Repurpose it. Make it relevant to them now. They're not babies anymore.

The lawnmower has gotten as good as it can get. But not if it shoots up little plastic pebbles when you roll it around. It looks so much more dynamic. When it comes right down to it, it cuts the lawn. Right. But you guys don't want to hear that. Right. Because you've gone crazy across brand with

fish and price we're john deere yeah well oh my god yeah watch and then suddenly like more people are using those than like traditional you know john deere riding mowers like i don't know there's something about it man a lot simpler yeah can you hear my mom cut their fucking lawn with those like you know those old push mowers that like there's a rotating blade oh yeah i'm always wondering how committed like rockabilly people are i have seen people cutting their lawn with the simpsons lawnmower like that from you know the one that's just like you push and it has it's like wheels with like blades connecting yeah that's what i'm talking about yeah yeah i've started i've seen i've seen more and more of that and they never look like they're having a great time with that thing it always you were talking about

time traveling were you talking about that on the show or were you talking about that before the show on the show no that was on the show oh wednesdays are time traveling day what does that mean pretend to be it i think it's just a nod to like all the science fiction shows and films that have time travel in it so it's like a day for people like that it's just a nod to like all the science fiction shows and films that have time travel in it so it's like a day for people like that it's okay so that'd be like use that lawnmower yeah like use or blade lawnmowers yeah however you want to interpret it man if you want to get out there and buy a shitty push lawnmower a manual lawnmower then fucking do it yeah yeah and put on a and wear like a roll up some cigarettes in your sleeve and. Exactly. Get a pompadour going and pretend it's 19 imaginary year.

Yeah. And put on that little skull cap with a propeller on top. I like when they mix up the times, you know, like. Yeah. They wear like, you know, they look like a prospector slash Danny Zuko slash. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you're wearing a prospector. You're mixing up your genres.

Those pants are from the 1890s. Exactly, man. That hairstyle's from 1956. We actually call these pants denims. That's what the French people called them then. Oh, man. That's taking me straight to people finding denim in old mines. Sure.

Tale as old as time. That's the dream. You know, they're looking at that. They like to find the cigarettes like the Prince Albert and they'll sometimes

find a minor cigarette from like 1940 that's half smoked do they smoke it? and they're no they just pick it up and go

imagine who smoked this which is like my shit you know smoke it you coward most of abandoned mind exploration

is just imagining I mean that's what it's all about it's like imagine who used this pick oh my god it's all about. It's like, imagine you use this pick. Oh, my God, it's a pick from God to the last person who used this had a crazy mustache. By the way, it's not all Wednesdays are pretend to be a time traveler day. This is December 8th, 2021. Pretend to be a time traveler.

Before you start to need your habits, Chris. Oh, OK. Yeah. We acknowledge all the international days now at the top of our show there's a just another one of these trends that i don't know if this one will even make the i mean i guess celebrity obsession will make the history books of like just embarrassing shit from late stage capitalism when everybody had to distract themselves from what was happening. There's a new Justin Bieber branded Tim Hortons donut collabo. And people in Canada are really into it. There's promotional material with Bieber at Tim Hortons

HQ. This is a new trend that I've noticed in a couple places uh he is on a conference room table sitting in the middle of the table like he doesn't know how to how to do it like he doesn't know how tables and chairs work because he's a rebel dude that was like that reminded me of the machine gun cali thing where they're like yeah anybody who thinks it's not lit to work at spotify uh check this out. And he's like doing air guitar down the middle of the conference room table. Do you remember in the office, the British office, when David does like motivational corporate speaking? Yeah.

And he's like, all right, let's take a photo really quick. And he hops on the table and does like a Burt Reynolds pose. And they're like, just standing is fine. And he's like, British office fucking rules. Extras rules too. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah.

So people are, they're also doing the Duncan thing with the merch and it's selling out and then being resold for lots of money. Oh boy. And, you know, McDonald's is launching Mariah Carey's Christmas menu, which they have imaginably dubbed the uh mariah menu oh but some alliteration yeah what the hell's on that is this just like her

favorites and it's like stuff that's been there like that's everyone's favorites like the big mac have you heard about this one no way the big mac Big Mac? The Big a who? The Big what now? I'm sorry. The huh? Eh? Are they calling it the Big Mariah or something for the holidays? So they've designed it like it's an advent calendar with a different McDonald's item every day. I can't even tell what some of them are, but you got the soft-baked chocolate chip cookie, the apple pie. There's nothing

novel about it. It's just like, okay, you put your menu in calendar form and then co-opted Mariah Carey's name, which for me personally, I refuse to believe Mariah Carey would ever eat McDonald's. No fucking way! I don't eat McDonald's. If I don't eat McDonald's,

fucking Mariah Carey's never even been near McDonald's. That's just how I feel. I don't see how these two worlds combine, but I guess for marketing purposes, that's... Yeah, what's another one? What would be another non-believable cross-branding?

You know what I mean? Like, anyone who's been on Friends, I feel like, let me fucking McDonald's or something. Jennifer Aniston's, something like papa john's menu you probably like killed a delivery person and hid the body like one day like that's that's your closest interaction with papa john's the rachel is now a uh pizza whenever i'm eating four dollars garlic knots hi i, I'm Jennifer Anderson, and when I go to Wiener Schnitzel,

you know I'm getting a chili cheese dog. What the fuck? No, you're not. Refuses to eat it on camera, of course. Or even be in the same room as it. Right. Or she's like, they're doing a thing where she's bringing it towards her mouth

and then they do an insert where it's a close-up of like clearly a dude's mouth who was like had to just be a must she wasn't hairy knuckles right right right but like putting like a nice manicure on the hand we're like y'all come on now we all know that's why i'm curious to see if this resonates because i think with bieber like you appeal to younger kids, younger kids. Sure. They're they're still eating junk food, have less money, but like all their clothes are made by Dunkin Donuts. Exactly. Or, you know, thrifted or fast fashion.

But I just don't. Mariah. Look, I get it. Mariah Carey for Dollar General. Whenever I'm at Dollar General. Right. What is Dollar General. Right. Yeah. That's where I feel like it's headed. Whenever I'm at Dollar General, she's like, what is Dollar General? I feel like it's a lame observation to be like,

celebrities are our modern day Greek gods, but that's something I've always just kind of thought was true. And there's this article, this New York article, about somebody who like basically documents dreams and has been documenting dreams like during the pandemic to see what they're if they're like shared things and all the stuff you would expect is pretty

much there like like what you would expect a pandemic dream to be like but they said that like it's known among dream like people who pay attention to and analyze dreams that like celebrities are officially like filling the purpose that gods did in ancient greece like the because they were keeping track of their dreams back then and it's just like all the same dreams but just swap in celebrities instead of like zeus oh no so yeah that's uh you know that maria bamford bit about jennifer anderson being the like the monkey that knows where the most bananas are like when people follow celebrities because they they have access to the most bananas basically you know like that's the same thing where it's like right and back to like i somehow ended up like you know i'm on youtube looking for shit and i'll like run into something like you know

what what nichi said you know like some four minute video where it's like you want to know what nichi is so you can say it at a dinner party which i've never been to a dinner party but okay we're all aspiring a whole different lifestyle oh i love that guy's youtube videos he's the best that's so that's so sad that that's so sad that he passed away he was one of my favorite edm djs who nichi yeah spelled like n e c h e uh uh well actually that's too many e's they would have less vowels the nichi anyway just nichi the whole god is dead thing like how you know that period when he was talking about it was it seems like a long time ago but you know it's not a long time ago it's like 200 years ago which you know big picture it's no time so just the idea

that without his point being god is dead and then culture is going to go bananas because you know he's like he was talking about the secular secularization that was going on then. Right. And that was like nothing compared to now, you know, so it's like people really need to have something to do or to believe in. I mean, otherwise you just mill around. And that's what we're in right now in America is just this point where people are like, don't believe in the government. They don't really believe in fucking anything right now. And it's a dangerous period. And that's where these fascists come in and say,'ll tell you what to believe in we just need someone to yell at everybody to get people in line you know i'll be your new god i and that's what trump filled i feel like that like that was the thing that that revelation that like psychologically that's where celebrities are

they are like the modern day gods like that made me what less like surprised but like more certain that that is like celebrities role at the center of our culture is probably headed for a fall and like it starts it starts making sense of the like why the president at like from 2016 to 2020 was like live tweeting the oscars and just like shitting on everybody because right you know like he's positioning himself as the anti like you know hollywood celebrity i don't know if it's on purpose or because they don't like him but it works the same you know yeah yeah he sees them as his his only competition. Right. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a it's a bummer. I just remember this. I remember one of my first like interactions with Nietzsche was in my like Lutheran elementary school, like on a field trip.

One of the teachers wore a shirt that had a quote. It said on front it said god is dead and then it says it's subscribed to nichi and then on the back it says nichi is dead god boom okay holy shit and i remember asking my dad i was like what is that he said who had that shit like he was mr so that sounds like critical race theory to me he's like that dude's like, have you seen how much he sweats playing that acoustic guitar? He's not getting it in. Why? Did you just say? Did you just say he's not getting it in?

No, no. Definitely not. You didn't say that? Very crude description. Is that what you said, though? Yes, it is. Okay, because I don't know. So is that the new slang for like The thing the kids are saying

Is not getting laid Yeah, just you know getting Getting whatever Yeah, but getting it in has a different connotation I got it, so okay Because I was over at my friend's Thanksgiving And they have kids and they were talking about Now kids say that

If no one ever admits They're dating anybody, they just say they're talking to them. Did you know that? Yeah. Like they just say we've been talking for three months and that means fucking. Yeah. Like that's what kids say. And it was girls talking to me like young, you know, teenage girls just complaining like my friend's daughters. And they were like, yeah yeah like these guys are just using

it as a they won't they just say talking they want to say talking because it gives them an out basically you know it's just like i wasn't you're just talking right yeah like well yeah we're not they were it's like they're like it's basically an idea men came up with so they just couldn't wouldn't have to commit to having a girlfriend yeah so you even in high school now people are trying to be players right i mean i remember when i was growing up yep if you got late in high school you thank jesus and you asked that woman to marry you and she went to college and forgot about you like a normal i feel like every generation has their own like euphemism that but talking is like really that's like very impersonal when you're well yeah because i feel like every generation has their own, like, euphemism that, like... But talking is, like, really... That's, like, very impersonal when you're... Well, yeah, because I feel like the...

Even... Because I feel like when I was in college, sort of really began, like, the earnest push to, like, completely obscure what kind of relationship you were in. You'd be like, nah, nah, nah. We just... Nah, we just kind of seeing each other. You're like, that's your fucking girlfriend, fool. Right, right.

And you're like, nah, nah, nah. We just seeing each other. She's pregnant. And we are codependent in a very unhealthy way it's like okay bull but i think that was just me to convince myself i wasn't about to be my parents i was amazed like yeah like do you marcy take what's his name to talk to for all eternity i mean you know right i don't know i just i was surprised by that i didn't know i mean of course it makes sense i mean as opposed to our model didn't work either which was fall in love with your high school girlfriend and say you're gonna get married and stay together forever yeah until it's also madness which is also a complete madness

and then you call her at college. And some guy answers the phone. Yeah. That's what the greatest song of all time. And she says, it's just your friend. Her friend. And then you call, but then you call a bunch of times. And he keeps answering the phone. And then you start to sweat.

Right. And that you is me. I prefer just making whoopee. That's the term that I prefer. Oh, you. Yo, another field trip thing we got in trouble for, my boy Nick, he wore a hat from Macon, Georgia that was spelled like M-A-C-O-N, like Macon, Georgia, and it said Macon whoopie.

Wow. And I remember, yo, the fucking Lutherans tripped the fuck out at the mark taper theater when we went to go see huckleberry finn or some shit anyway i had uh you were raised lutheran miles no no i was just like the cheapest school that my parents could afford uh doesn't matter just that sounds like hardcore lutheran i think or oh no no it was like i definitely i learned the ways of the church, but in a very outside way. I'm like, okay, I'm not too invested in this, but interesting.

Interesting to see. Miles still wears a hair shirt underneath his outer t-shirt for our recording. He doesn't feel comfortable or creative. I feel like people barely ever mention hair shirts on podcasts anymore. It's about time we changed that. Hair shirt!

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