The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 209 (Best of 1/18/22-1/21/22)

Episode Date: January 23, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have

changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion

and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeart Radio apps,

or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist.

These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith! Ellery! Thank you, hi! Hi, hi. Welcome. Thank you and hi.

Thank you and hi. Wow. Well, you're welcome and hello. What's new? What's new, Ellery? What's the vibes? Not too much, just hanging. You know, there's sort of a COVID slump in LA right now, so not too much just hanging you know sort of there's sort of a

covid slump in la right now so not too much stand-up going on yeah yeah you know so is there is there like a barometer for la stand-up where you're kind of like okay if this show's going on we're good or if this shows off then that's a good indication or it's kind of like everything it's so hard to tell now it's really is sort of every man for itself whereas like before there was a little more sort of like guidance. And now that there's no guidance and the government is just like, you can Google a test. Basically, it's whatever you feel comfortable with. Right.

Right. Gotcha. So not preferred. Right. I saw like people, some being like, yeah, I'll be at this indoor place. And I'm like. Yeah. I'm doing outdoor stuff right now.

Right. But if it's too i don't know i've also canceled some outdoor stuff it's really weird i'm hoping by february things might be a little bit more back to normal yeah whatever and by normal we mean just a more familiar version of hell exactly right exactly i do like this tweet yeah i saw this tweet that was like i had no idea comedy was going to turn into a seasonal sport. Right. And I've been thinking about that a lot. Oh, yeah.

That's that's spring. That's a spring sport. Yeah. Yeah. It will be like a summer sport. Right. For sure. It sucks.

It sucks. Yeah. And the solution seems so simple. Yeah. Like you're saying, we're being told, oh, Google ever heard of it? We're like, oh, you're the presidential administration ever heard of that? That's the thing. And then it's also, it's like, there are things to be done that seem like just basic public, good public health policy, like common sense, good public health policy, right?

Like the free COVID test at first, the messaging was like, if you have insurance, you can get reimbursed through your insurance. And it's like, what about the millions was like, if you have insurance, you can get reimbursed through your insurance. And it's like, if you have insurance, if you have insurance, what about the millions of like frontline workers who do not have insurance? Yeah. That's, that really is sort of like the subtext there.

Yeah. Or just kind of not even sub, it's almost like, you know, even when they're like, it's unfortunate. Some of those people are going to get burnt out. It's like,

wow, how the pendulum has swung all the way the other way. It's like, yeah, we went from we thank our essential workers to like Ivan Drago. What do you say? If he dies, he dies. Yeah. That was a little on the nose. I'm going to say

in retrospect, probably not what he would have said at that moment as a professional athlete. Right. But it is what our president's saying to us now. Yeah. Just needed another 40 years of history.

Is there anything in your search history besides Peck videos? Yeah, actually, I've been reading a lot of like gender studies and like LGBTQ history books. and like LGBTQ history books. So it's like that videos about with Susan Stryker and also just researching for Broncos. So I ordered one in 2020. I was going to say, this has been, yeah, I remember. Talk about a saga. Oh, and then CJ Toledano got one, right?

Wasn't this, weren't we talking about this? Yes. And I'm like, how the the fuck and then now my friend got theirs showed up to my house last i was pit i was i'm happy for them but i'm like seething with jealousy i'm just like cool i'm so glad you got yours and then you know whatever i don't know oh so i've been like, this is the LT package. Great. I've been on like Reddit forums being like, I've got this code for my Ford Bronco. What does it mean? And they're like, stay out.

Is it a classic Ford Bronco? I think you told us. No, it's the brand new one. The brand new Ford Bronco. I can't even get that one out. Well, first there was a chip shortage, and then they couldn't get the roofs right, so everything's on back order. And then when there is one on the lot, most likely it's a soft top. And I was like, I don't have a garage.

But now they're selling it for like $60,000, $95,000. Oh, my God. This is a $30,000 truck. What's your evolution with getting into the Bronco? Like, did you used to have, like back in the day, did your family ever have like that Bronco or it's always a car you were into because of OJ or what was it? Honestly, OJ is a, is a big inspiration.

Shout out to OJ. Shout out to the families of OJ. Shout out to the Goldman family. No, I've always loved like classic trucks. And I think I was about to buy like an 80s. Like I was like, I'll never have money for a house in Los Angeles. So why not get like a classic truck? Live in a Bronco.

Yeah, why not live in a Bronco? But then I was like, oh, maybe I should actually just get top surgery and spend whatever money I was going to get on a truck on that. But growing up, we had like I had like classic trucks, you know, like high school. And I say classic now because we were poor and that was the only thing available. But I had like a 67 Ford short, short bed with like a factory installed gun rack. So, yeah, it was I just hung my backpack on it, but looking back it's pretty fucked up. Beep, beep.

It's a gun rack, guys. You went to high school in Texas? Yeah. So they were like, okay. Right. Well, remember when... Y'all remember when Columbine hit? 420. 420 420 1969 420 hit differently yeah well that's when like we would have like cops come in oh something's going on in the hood

i don't know if y'all can hear the helicopters but that's when we had like cops come in and like gun sniffing dogs and then everybody got pulled out of class because most of the kids went like dove hunting or deer hunting before school. Right. They were just covered in gunpowder. And everyone was like shaking. Right. They're like swab his hands for some gunshot residue. It's like we all.

We all have guns. You know this. Anyways. You're my dad. It's complicated. guns. You know this. Anyways. You're my dad. It's complicated. Yeah. You gave me the gun. But yeah, I just, I don't know.

I've always wanted a truck and, you know, now I drive a Prius and it just, you know. Yeah. Now you're right. Hard to feel tough when it's like. Was that you putting it in drive yes i know that sound now you want that like flow now you can put flow masters on i'm ready to spend a lot of money on gas right yeah fill her up exactly what i'm so sorry i pulled out a gun yeah so yeah harder to sneak up on people not that you'll need to because you can just run run them down why would i want to sneak up right what i'm so sorry guys i again have just it's been

a long four-day weekend no three-day weekend who cares i live alone now i'm not used to it i'm getting more used to it and when i don't talk out loud i was like yeah i get to talk and then it's just like guns kids your mom fuck i've just been taking you know like pre pre-workout supplements morning, noon and night. I'm just like, ah, it's funny you mentioned that. I used to date somebody when I was like in high school or like just getting out of high school who had like an early Prius. And like she would that's how she would sneak out of her house. Like she was always like, it's the best.

Like they never when I get home or leave. And I was like, OK, that's kind of... Put it in that EV mode. Yeah, exactly. Just to get out and you're like... That's how I have to sneak out on your mom. There we go. Bring it back.

Bring it back. That's what makes you so effective and sneaky. What's something you think is overrated? Yeah, there's I guess something that's a little bit topical is there is this story sort of framed as this feel good story of police officers in Cleveland County, Oklahoma, stepping into substitute for teachers who are out sick with COVID. And it was framed as like, oh, isn't this sweet? Like police officers stepping in to educate children when all their teachers are sick with COVID. But that seems like a nightmare to me. Right. Yeah.

If my substitute teacher was a police officer, I would be peeing and pooping myself in class. I mean, yeah, only two holes that can come out. Right. Like you said, call back. It's like, yeah, because I mean, I can't think of two occupations that are directly on the same wavelength with each other as police officer and teacher. length with each other as police officer and teacher yeah yeah it seems completely uh like the parallel skill sets um you know brutalizing yeah poor people in service of protecting private property or teaching the youth sure yeah it's like i guess you're teaching physics when you body slam a student for no reason right is that how it works interesting yeah like terminal velocity i guess yeah yeah exactly i mean were the pictures like

cops like in their uniforms like at a blackboard and that was the thing it's like wow yeah them like smiling oh also uh cherry on top of uh the donut if that yeah is that they weren't uh wearing masks no masks and the story was like, the teachers are sick with COVID. Let's get some maskless police officers in here to teach kids, you know, I don't know, that we live in a police state. Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I had one experience in my entire scholastic career where a cop was my teacher and that was the dare program yeah and

that's just oh very memorable i feel like anybody who had the dare program like remembers that day more than most because the cops and it's just strange to have like a person with such bad energy yeah 100 and i grew up like you know just having it put in my head it's like you know police this is not a good situation right so like when i remember officer charles showed up for our dare class i was like i thought i had weed on me just right it was just like i remember i was like one of my first responses wasn't like wow cool a cop i was like Right. It was just like I remember I was like one of my first responses wasn't like, wow, cool, a cop. I was like, yeah. And that guy clearly had the energy of like, I screwed up pretty bad. That's why I'm teaching dare. Yeah.

I remember we had like a cop demonstration where they had a canine unit and some other like other cop wearing one of those body suits, anti-dog body suits. Yeah. And then just had the dog tackle the shit out of them and start tearing at them. And it's like, isn't this cool, kids? And we're like, that's great, Mr. Officer Man. Like, cool. That's why you don't resist. Don't misbehave. That's what you got waiting for you on the other

end of that pathway but you won't have that suit on I just don't understand how any of the adults didn't think like this seems scary like they're terrorizing the students with a promise of violence you know if they happen to run afoul of the law or not run afoul of the law just exist what do you think of like the teachers i had in the 90s they had been clearly teaching since the

60s so for them everything was like great you know what i mean like and it was maybe only like the newer younger teachers who were like maybe not the best thing but like for the people who were like i remember when this school was segregated almost like that kind of energy uh they probably didn't care as much not that that was happening but you get you get the idea yeah yeah they did find that the dare program like people who were exposed to the dare program were more likely to use drugs than people who weren't so at least it did some good yeah it's yeah dare is a gateway drug yeah taught us what the good stuff was yeah exactly i do it was the first time i smelled weed like really up close uh it was also the first time i had like learned the urban legend that meth gives you

superpowers they're like talking about how somebody on meth was like shot eight times and like kept coming and like threw a fucking dumpster at a police car. Yeah. That's what they said. Yeah. PCP. That's what it was. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The car you're like, and I, and I, and I've said this before on the podcast, when YouTube came out,

that was like the first few years of YouTube. All I was searching for was a video evidence that that was possible i was like where's guy on pcp throwing car overhead right yeah yeah and i they also would teach us like obscure ways to get high like you know if you take a can of like computer screen cleaner and like snort it you'll get high and it's like oh that never really occurred to me and how do you do this exactly exactly you know that was the same thing he's like hey how many of you guys know about hot knives and we're like what he's like you take two knives and you put it over your stove and you get them red hot and then you put a piece of hashish there and then you can inhale the the smoke that is generated from your two hot knives pressed against the hashish.

And everyone's like, what the fuck? Right, because the copster is there trying to, the second you get in front of a room, you just want to entertain and impress. You're just like, what's the coolest shit I've ever seen? What's the coolest thing I know about drugs? And then you just go with that yeah one time i saw a pit bull jump into a second story balcony from the ground floor okay yeah like it did feel like that at times and i and i've said this before half of the class was him trying to get people to like guess what his vanity license plate meant what was it he was like who know

hey you guys see my ford ranger pickup it's like what do you think the license plate means and we're like what the fuck is this well like just get us out of here man this same weed is bad and he brought it in the last class he's like he took it off his car and brought it and he's like all right guys it's our last class and I want everybody to write down what they think. And if they're right, like a starburst or something. And it was it was P.R.N.C.H.A.S. P.R.N.C.H.A.S. Yeah.

Porn. Chers. It was Prince Charles. Oh. And we're like, oh, your name's Charles. It's like, yeah, I Prince Charles. Oh. And we're like, oh, your name's Charles? It's like, yeah, I'm Charles. And we're like, okay, well, you're a prince and an oppressor. See ya.

And that has to do with the program. Like, okay. Yeah, no, but that's what I mean. Like, what is... You thought there was going to be some tie-in to the theme? There's a very good chance that one of those classrooms had to sit through him talking about his divorce and just him kind of going through it with the class, sobbing a little bit. Everyone. Yeah.

His ex was like, your fucking vanity plate doesn't even make sense. And so he made the whole thing about trying to prove to her that a bunch of 12-year-olds could tell what it was. And they couldn't. He's like, come on, it's Prince Charles. He's like, Charles, the divorce papers have been signed. I don't know what the point of this is. We've already made our decision. Whatever. And then I remember the first day of class, he's writing on the blackboard. And then in the middle, he's just like, oh, fuck.

Oh, no. Like, all right. No. Shit. What is something that you think is underrated, Brian? All right. I think a lot of people have been, you know, talking a lot of shit about house of gucci and i saw it in theaters you know i was there not opening weekend but the following weekend

okay and i do agree that it was off it was weird but also the people i saw with we were we did not stop talking about it for a solid two hours after the movie concluded. Yeah. And it was around that, you know, that timestamp that I was like, hold on, maybe this movie is actually really good. Like, what movie had you talking about it for so long after you had seen it? You just, like, couldn't stop, like, you know. I thought Jared Leto's performance was outstanding. Me too.

Okay. Cause I'm, this has been like the most consistent thing I've been hearing. I haven't seen it. Jack, you saw it, right? Yeah.

I haven't seen it yet, but the one thing I always hear is people being confused. Their first reaction is confusion to the film, like where they don't want to say it's bad, but they weren't sure it was good. And then when I hear them explain everything, I'm like, it's the same.

Everyone. I think everyone has to like process it out loud. It seems like. So in that sense, how, what did you, did you, what was like,

what were the things that you saw as being like, oh, this maybe not, isn't that great to then evolving into, wait a second. It's just like the scenes, like they, it feels like they jumped around just like the scenes like they it feels like they jumped around randomly it's like they're in like tuscany or something and then they're in new york

and then it's like the next day or something and they're back in like italy or wherever i'm like you're like once and i'm for just like a random scene and then the rest of the time you're just supposed to like piece it together yourself and yeah there was just like zero context and then it's the same director who did like alien right yeah yeah yeah and when i saw his name i was like what the fuck like he clearly knows what he's doing but it's just like i don't know it was fascinating and the accent work did you have any what your, what was your take on the accent work? That's another thing I hear people have many different things.

I'm terrible at accents. So for me to judge another person's accent is unfair. Sure. But did it take you out at all? Or you were like, no, it's perfectly fine. No. And I'm beginning to think that I might be like accents uh you know i just can't hear it sometimes like everything sounds i can tell when something's different but when

somebody can like immediately pick up on an accent i'm like yeah i don't know what that it all sounds british right it's all some version of euro yeah yeah i don't i to be honest like i i have gone along with people being like but the accents right i'm like yeah oh man the worst uh but it all sounded fine to me like and jared you're like jared leto's very like hammy but like it again to my dumb american brain like that is not like that familiar with like the intricacies of the italian accent or why they might be speaking english in italian accents even though they're in italy i didn't it didn't bother me i was just like yep uh-huh right and it looks cool like it looks great it tells the story that i didn't know but yeah like jared leto like that is who jared leto needs to be playing like the kind of i don't

know he really nailed a dumb person who's like kind of aware of his own like limits but also isn't in many remarkable respects yeah yeah right just a guy who's down on his luck and cannot get a win to save his life yeah it also feels like in the way that normal people may luxuriate in like a night out where you get to look like glamorous and beautiful it seemed like he this was him luxuriating and looking like not one of the most beautiful creatures on earth like he really seemed to be enjoying just like being a schluff like it was like he was like, yeah. He's like, this is me. Yeah, it's might as well. Yeah, schlub tourism. Yeah, exactly. It was schlub tourism by Jared Leto.

But like he really seemed to be exploring the studio space and enjoying himself. It was just fun to watch. That's, you know, I can't give many movies higher praise than that. It's just really fun to watch a movie. There we go. Underrated. Figured it out. I mean, that's you know i i can't give many movies higher praise than that it's just really fun to watch a movie there we go underrated right figured it out i mean that's the thing i'm still drawn just

because of when andrew t told me he didn't know if it was a comedy or not i was like i have now i have to see this yeah i'm like you're a writer and you watched it and you were having trouble pinpointing the genre and i'm like that that that's art you know for lack of a better word i think you can you can agree with everybody like i talked to uh not to out her but jamie loftus was like oh my god i just saw it it was so bad right and i was like yeah like that's true like there's a lot of it that's like bad but it's also just wildly entertaining and then she was like yeah i've seen it like twice already so you know like it's there just wildly entertaining. And then she was like, yeah, I've seen it like twice already. So, you know, it's there's something about that movie.

Yeah. If Jamie's going multiple times, it's art. That's the other litmus test. Yeah. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk about the filibuster. Finally.

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But the government has finally charged them. Yeah. If you're unfamiliar, they're the merry band of chuds that take their constitutional oath to protect the country from enemies both foreign and domestic. Seriously. But they mostly stress the domestic part. And that's why they've convinced themselves that right-wing terror is actually a positive force in this country but you know they were pretty stoked at overthrowing the government on jan 6th and you may have remembered those clips

if you know that were pretty deeply unsettling if if you got really into like watching a lot of january 6th videos of you'd see like a group of uniformed guys in tactical gear marching in a stack, like sort of one behind the other with a hand on their shoulder, going up the Capitol steps, moving in a very coordinated way. And you're like, uh, there seemed to be really coordinated, like paramilitary elements to this, not just, you know, the people who are, you know, there for a peaceful protest or whatever you want to say. Or maybe you remember that there was a group of them this is another story from january 6 that had a cache of weapons that were being readied just outside of dc in the event that it was time

for bang bangs and mass mass death that they were going to just drive in a bunch of weapons to the rest of the oath keepers to take the the insurrection to the next level well the doj came knock in last week for 11 members including their their their leader and charged them with seditious conspiracy to quote oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power unfortunately they had you know all of their signal messages uh were basically handed over to the feds and it made the case pretty easy since they were being really clear about what the intent was and what people were doing didn't they copy and paste that text that

makes it so that nobody can use any of the words you're using on social media they did i do not agree i do not consent to my signal messages yeah wow their their their leader even did this dumb shit where he's like he would write write in cursive, very specific plans that he didn't want to type out and then upload a picture. Because he said, if it's in cursive, like the text scanning analysis software, like won't be able to pick up what we're saying. But asshole, what you've done is just created evidence in your fucking handwriting. Like, it would have been easier to be like, like ah some asshole got a hold of my phone and was using signal like a jerk you're like no man you're there's you're giving us a lot of forensic evidence here to say that you were very much a part of this and planning it also who still

knows how to write in cursive i guess maybe some people law graduates yeah oh oh don't it was it last year or like when the enrollment signups for I think it was maybe Oath Keepers or three percenters and a bunch of people signed up with their government emails? Oh, really? Do you remember? It was like five cops who signed up with like dot gov emails. Yeah. Good for them. People are pointing out the Yale log rat, the leader who has an eye patch, but otherwise looks exactly like you would expect them to look. He's a Yale law grad, which is becoming less and less surprising like at this point. Oh, I don't think that's surprising at all. It's very much like skull and crossbones behavior. Yeah. It's Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas. Too many war criminals went to Yale Law. I know. They're really, are they like the Federalist Society?, they basically all are like born through white supremacy.

Right. Like anything that ancient in this country is going to have a serious, you know, reckoning with their behavior during those years. And like what it means for students to even go through and graduate those programs. And like who created the programs to begin with. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, like all those sort of like Kennedy School of Government or Harvard Business School or Yale Law School, they're all like earth fucker finishing school. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, yeah, now go on and fuck the earth over. Be well and come back with many, many dollars you will not share. The Sackler School of Medicine. Right. Yeah.

medicine. Right. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about how people are finding COVID tests, because at the end of last week, Joe Biden had some suggestions for it was actually kind of a pretty profound idea. He had apparently just found out about Google. And as people were complaining about not being able to find tests anywhere he suggested they google it so nailed it nailed it joe well done sir go take a nap but they're also that was kamala right yeah i think they beached and i think also jen said it i think the three of them in different ways okay i think everybody that's like the a triumvirate yeah i think that's like the pr like they came together it's so fucking rude to be like, Google is free. Yeah, and condescending. Yeah, really, what is this? Also not free.

Also not free. Also not everybody has internet access. And also this is exactly what's wrong with the entire worldview that they, like the whole reason this is never going to work, their whole thing, is because they are still like multi-trillion dollar companies are going to save us all but it's like we can win by working with them destroy like during the pandemic when things were not as bad we saw tests be destroyed because it was like to have an overstock meant that the price would go down and so it was bad for companies so private companies destroyed a ton of tests that we now need right yeah hey but now they're making money and yeah the the tone of it is like do google again shows like they think the other the rest of americans

are at the same like socioeconomic education bracket as like their staff right you know what i mean like i don't know just do google okay like that's that's a directive you i could hear someone who's like a staffer again rather than working people who have no internet access or you know we don't have time to like click 8 000 links and find which ones work and which ones don't know which ones are close right and which ones are bunk it's yes it really seems to me like their understanding of google like they're actually the people who are making this decision to make this an official recommendation are people who have only seen search engines used in movies where like you just type in a thing and there's one answer yeah and it's just like there it is minority report

and there's no like seo yeah there's no seo it's not buried under like 800 ads and like people who are like burying the good results because it's more profitable to them to get their fucking search results higher it's such a dumb but like like 1996 clintonian understanding of like well you know the best this massive company is going to do the best job and because of the profit principle we're good we're it seems to me that a lot of us are fundamentally misunderstanding what a government is for. If this is not what a government is for, what are they for? If nothing else, what does it exist for? Why are we all paying taxes?

What are we obeying the structure for? Yeah, it's a revolving door for defense and pharmaceutical companies. That is exactly it. I'm pissed off about it because it's like, okay, so I'm funding, right? Some like airstrikes for some, you know, civilian wedding. And I can't get a COVID test. In fucking England, who has its own problems, they get, you know, whatever, 20 free tests a month. Yeah.

You're actually funding the production of movies like uh let's see zero dark 30 and transformers too let's not forget the hand that the cia cia played in making that film or the money and access the dod gave to people to make transformers that's also coming like out of our fucking tax dollars so yeah there is a lot this whole thing is it does feel perverse and i think because of the years that have gone by people aren't have completely lost sort of track like because i remember even too like civics class in high school that really gave me no fundamental understanding of like what the relationship was between government and what it needs to do for me it was more like can you name the branches of the government do you know what the state legislature is okay bye right yeah well they sort of have a vested interest in

you not knowing damn i did join the marines after watching transformers and i was so disappointed you guys it did not was not what i expected i was not what they were hoping for either so it was pretty it was over pretty quickly you're like when do when do I meet Bumblebee? What the fuck is this, dude? You told me Megan Fox isn't here. Yeah, right. But so they did announce like a plan I'm putting in quotes, but it's basically to get private insurers to cover the cost of eight at home coronavirus tests per member per month, of eight at-home coronavirus tests per member per month, which would be great if everyone had insurance and if we could find take-home tests.

I could buy three PS5s before I could get three COVID tests. Yeah, so people are actually using the PS5 when PS5s were incredibly hard to find. Still, still, still. like when PS5s were incredibly hard to find. Still, still, still. In those long ago days when PS5s were hard to find, people have been creating networks and programs to help find them and platforms and just social media accounts that let you know, okay, this is where they have them.

And now those are being converted or expanded to let you know, okay, this is where they have them. And now those are being converted or expanded to let you know where tests are. Which is wild, right? That we took something that was a way to help like aggregate and give disseminate information around the availability of a gaming console that was sought after. And we're now swapping that out for critical medical infrastructure.

And we've now we're now swapping that out for critical medical infrastructure. There's this onion like kind of rip off site hard drive that, you know, not I don't know. I've never heard of it before today, so I don't know. They might be fucking brilliantly talented, but they do the same thing as the onion do fake headlines. And they did a fake headline, U.S. government reaches agreement with Wario 64 to announce COVID vaccine availability because Wario 64 was somebody who let you know where consoles were. And then like days later, that account started tweeting available vaccine appointments. that's also just such a good summary of where we are that like you know the overlap between absurdity and satire and just reality at this point it's well and it's and it's it's come to a place that it's become so predictable that the logic of humorists and writers is basically they're

like what next thing you know it's going to be this. And you're like, no, you're right. It's predictable. That is what's happening. And the next thing will be that people are, you know, who knows what the next thing will be. It's like, I don't know, man, can you find food? Check it out in the Wario64 Twitter account. I mean, it's on one hand, obviously very dystopian, but on the other hand, I think it's a really good example

of like the ways that we can keep ourselves safe and the ways that like obviously huge governmental failure so disappointing wish it wasn't like that but it's wonderful to see like things born out of necessity like that and also to know that we can build those networks and like without the government we shouldn't have to yeah but a lot of this will will fall to us and has been falling to us not even like this is not a new think about like the community fridge program like this is not a new concept by any by any stretch of the imagination it's just the pandemic has laid bare you know so many of the continuation of like the natural radicalization process that's occurring in every industry too because people normally like are they fucking

serious like they're trying to fucking kill me right with this shit nah fuck that and suddenly it's like you know like viva la revolucion but it's like the students are walking out of high schools because students like i'm not going in a classroom the teacher's like we're not going in a class i saw the chicago stuff today yeah yeah good for. Good for them. That's great. And also, I guess the students that walked out are asking for an apology to teachers and the teachers union. Yeah. But again, like we're making, we're the, the, the responsibility for people to like take action is now falling in the weirdest places. Like, and it's not, they're making activists out of so many people. So maybe that could be a, a long-term benefit in terms of people

really seeing the bullshit that you know these systems actually are but you know let's see yeah i mean so the other way that the biden administration is turning towards private mega corporations in addition to like working only with private insurance companies, they and suggesting we use Google, they're actually working with Google to help people access tests. It's unclear how they're planning to do that. But it's extra frustrating because Google is one of many like massive corporations that are hoarding rapid tests reportedly google employees can receive as many as 20 tests per month and google staff are literally using their pre-tests on their children so they can go to daycare because daycare is not a multi-billion dollar software company and you know they have no tests so right but yeah it's just you know massive corporations have no tests. So, but yeah, it's just, you know,

massive corporations are the ones that can afford stuff and they're becoming the only ones that can afford stuff or have access to stuff. Yeah. I'm truly, well, I would love to hear what these ideation sessions sound like when they're doing this balancing act. Like, how are we going to get these tests to people? We got to get more tests.

Is there just one guy like vaping in the back who's like dude call fucking google man and like they'll figure it out yeah there's a google lobbyist in the room who's like i think we can work something out if you guys mention us enough yeah exactly exactly and it's also it's like we have so much money for other things and there's never any discussion about where that money is going to come from this is a point that's been made over and over again but like our country does have so much we have like you know raised how much money we give the idf every year for the last 10 years but there's no money for covet tests so it's just like what are our priorities here yeah the priorities are profit every time always over everything even if it's in the long run more

expensive and then that also goes back to the idea that it's like i think a lot of us don't understand like i think everybody in america thinks the government is a business and like that the government exists to make money and it's like services don't need to make money their services their services is why they exist the debt ceiling ellery how are they going to deal with the debt ceiling i don't give a going to deal with the debt ceiling exactly what the fuck are you guys even talking Michael Bay is making a January 6th film that we need to help co-produce you know I thought that was real for two songs I know I thought you were just giving us a news break no no yeah if but if hey but again the absurdity becomes reality. So buckle up. You know what I mean?

It's hard to tell. Yeah. Your dramatization of the guy in the back of the room vaping and being like, call Google, like really drove home. Because that is, you know, all the people who work at Google are, you know, went to some Ivy school with the kids who are working in the Biden administration. And like, that's it's yeah, it does feel like it kind of goes back to that whole just what a fucked place like all these Ivy League schools are. I mean, I'm not a fucking logistics expert, but just from my, you know, civilian view, it's like I know, know you know post offices seem like localized distribution centers and we seem to be getting i don't know how y'all do it but everybody gets the same fucking bed bath and beyond ad right maybe holler at them maybe start there and you can say yeah we know we

have what we have every residence mapped out as a post office right we can we can do that but you know i get it it's profit and google folks google yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back quick thought experiment does trumpism continue without trump what's going to happen with you know the number, our number one guy heir to the throne, Ron DeSantis and Trump feuding? Like, is there a possibility that this just becomes DeSantis's party because Trump has admitted like his ego won't let him become an anti-vaxxer because he claims that he invented vaccines? I think. Yeah. So the situation is really interesting because we talked about how Trump called him DeSantis gutless for not saying whether or not he was boosted or vaccinated,

whatever. And then a New York Times piece comes out and it's pretty much like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's beef. There's real beef here because Trump basically is saying, like, I took you from obscure guy to like top gubernatorial candidate when I endorsed you. Now you're governor and you need to defer to me. And it's interesting because if you look at the conversation around vaccinations and being boosted, Trump has been fucking booed

multiple times when he's out loud been like, I got the shot. I've been boosted. And I think people should too. And then we were like, it's a personal decision. It's a personal decision.

It's up to you. It's up to you. But I did it's a person and then we were like like it's a personal decision it's a personal it's up to you it's up to you but i did it for me whereas desantis almost like you know he gave like a gasp show of a speech a couple weeks ago where people were like is this guy sick with covet again but he again he won't give people the satisfaction of knowing whether or not he's like a lib that gets vaccines so it it's almost as if like DeSantis is sort of seeing an opportunity where that, okay, if I do, if talking about vaccine efficacy or that it's good gets you booed, then why don't I try and fill that void by still playing, being coy, still talking like you don't need masks or, you know, general precautions and things like that. And I don't know, it almost feels like he's gesturing to Trump, too.

I mean, like, yo, this guy's slipping, man. Like, he's not even down with the MAGA shit anymore. But anyway, like, we'll see what what space that creates for him. Watch this space. I mean, watch this space very closely. He has recently said that backing Trump for president in 2024 is too much to ask after Trump attacked him. So he is not going to do it. He's also been talking shit about Trump behind the scenes and claiming that he's like lost the base or uncharacteristically is uncharacteristically out of step with the hard line elements of his party's base.

Right. And then says his biggest regret in office is not having been much louder in speaking out against Trump's pandemic response. I feel like he's just trying to reinvent himself to be less MAGA, more moderate, so then he can be like, I've reformed my ways. Guess what?

I'm still a MAGA guy. But I don't know. I think he's like a narcissistic, manipulative ex, you know, who's always like, baby, I've changed. Watch. Right. Look at this picture. Hey, I'm getting the vaccine. Thinking of you.

Yeah, thinking of you. Take your picture. No, I think the Trump party continues with what Marjorie Greene Taylor and that other woman and this guy. I don't know. Well, this is the thing. But no one can quite capture the crowd like Donald Trump does. That's like what's interesting is like he has there is this like weird thing where people he was able to very quickly alter reality for the base. And they're like, yep, a loss is a win.

I guess that's true. But I think what goes along with that with that too is like that that rally he had in arizona where he's like i'm not going to speak on the six i'm going to have this big rally in arizona it seemed like even what he said wasn't new the crowd wasn't really like that into it so a lot of people who were there were like i don't know man like this the hits aren't quite resonating the same like and what does that mean for him now and is that creating an opportunity for somebody like yo if we're gonna keep these fucking ethno-nationalists plugged in like we need to we need a new album coming out because i don't know if people think trump's gonna get

the sophomore jinx or something where he's like okay this next time coming back again with like a weaker album and i think that's where people see the potential for desantis to try and to get in there but i don't know like what that means if it's desantis's version of just what this new form of you know conservativism is yeah it'll be interesting because this is the least confident i've been that he's going to be the president from 2024 to whenever he dies so he is running right is that oh yeah yeah i mean he's going to be the president from 2024 to whenever he dies. So he is running, right? Is that? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, he's going to be flanked on both sides in the primary, though, now by DeSantis. And then, you know, not that anybody's going to vote for Mike Pence, but like if Mike Pence is going to run. Yeah. I'm not even paying attention. I feel sad. And then I'm like, Joe Biden, what the fuck?

What the fuck are we doing? We're just I mean, the Wall Street journal just like put out put out an article it was like there's a lot of rumbling that pence is the one to beat and like he's the leading candidate could you imagine kissing him thin lips thin lips yeah just put two razor blades against your mouth. And that's what it's like. But he, you know, this would be the best chance at Trump not winning in 2028. I feel like. Well, yeah. And because you think there are people already like Trump. There is there's a section of QAnon.

It's like Trump was using a body double at that rally. What? Well, didn't millennia millennia. Oh, my God. I can't even remember her name. Millenniums. Millenniums. Millenniums Trump. Step into Melania. Melania. Didn't Melania have a few body doubles? Like there's some questionable photos, really. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows?

But I mean, yeah, but it was Millennium. That was Willennium. The body doubles's name. But yeah, even then, when you think of the hardcore elements of this party, I don't know what you do to get those people. Trump's got to come out and fully embrace some conspiracy theory and be like, exactly, folks. The adrenochrome is flowing on the hill and go there. Or to your point ever like does it make more sense to be like i don't know if you just say you fuck with vaccines that might bring that might help your polling but i think we're finding out where where the base is are they truly just there for trump is it that they gave them a taste for this you know fascist american fantasy and it's going to keep moving forward or what?

When I went home for the holidays in like Central Texas, I saw like an interesting thing where people either doubled down or they were like, we were wrong. Like my mom was like, more people voted for Biden than we thought they would around here, which was like a crazy thing. And a lot of people have taken down their Trump stuff. Like some of our neighbors have like removed the bumper sticker from the truck.

And then on the other hand, people have really amped it up where it's like it's Trump 2020, Trump won, Trump, Trump is our president. Like not like a little bit, but like car wrapping, getting their trucks wrapped with like just like a trunk tank. I don't know how to explain it. It was weird. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so that's that's always, you know, that's like those moments you figure out what if you really down with the cult or not.

Are you going to are you going to untether yourself from this fantasy or are you going to, you know, let your cognitive dissonance go to fucking 45 000 and then you go nope doubling down no not doing it i'm not i'm not a pussy i'll double down they're like drink your pee then i will watch watch no not in front of me and i meant like put it in a cup that's just like straight into your whatever all right man you know what i do have a bone to pick right quick. Because this is going to sound like a tangent, but when you were like, I was like, oh, like a hose, you could just pee it in your mouth. And then I remembered, I almost caught my parents' house on fire, right? I don't know if you guys have seen that video.

Of you almost catching your parents' house on fire? Yes. So my mom and i were doing this video and this is completely unrelated but it did remind me of water hose and all these fuckers coming at me being like what other kind of hose is there bitch i don't know um i'm so sorry i have become super aggressive um so basically i found out, I was trying to do this funny video with my mom and I lit some stuff on fire and I used gasoline. And then I thought I'll pour a little more gas to make a big flume. But then I didn't realize that the flame would follow up the gas.

So I'm running around with a gas tank on fire, panicking. And then like the gas is pouring out out but it's really just like flames yeah and then i'm catching all the grass on fire and i'm running around the yard like i'm just like screaming at my mom to get a water hose and then everyone all the comments it's all dudes being like darwin's so mad it's finest you just gotta snuff out the gas what other kind of water like all these men are taking it personally that i don't know what to do with a tank of gas that's on fire. They're all guys with second degree burns on their face and no eyebrows. They're like, you got to figure it out.

I've seen this a hundred times. Wow. And these are registered voters. Come on, man. I made a mistake. Why are you taking it personally? Get that water hose out. Well, you know what?

News for them because we have a pee hose at my house. Yeah, we got pee hoses over here, buckaroo. I just fill up a poly tank on top of my roof every night. Y'all heard of Camelback? This is piss back. Exactly. Find me. Come find me.

Come find me. Pissback.com totally different website last thought on the trump thing is i do so i do like the the reason i'm hopeful is not necessarily just the like i think de santas will like come in and beat him but like there's also the fact that Trump prepped for 2016 by like mainlining talk radio from the day that Obama like hurt his feelings at the White House press dinner, correspondence dinner, whatever the fuck it is. And like, he actually like met people. And I feel like since then, he's kind of been doing the same thing that all like

really rich famous people do where they only see like other rich famous people like i don't feel like he's necessarily doing that same shit like maybe there's something to de santa saying he's like out of touch with the main line shit and then also you have like cognitive decline so like i don't know combination of things is making me the most hopeful that it won't be trump not necessarily hopeful for the future of the country just some other racist yeah some other racist asshole will come in hopefully not more effective anyways we do need to get to streaming corner let's take a quick break and we will be right back i'm jess casav, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and

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the trailer for the Super Bowl halftime show? I did. Like the fucking Avengers of of hip-hop yeah yes so like i i think i remember hearing at the time it was gonna be like dre and snoop and maybe eminem but it's also kendrick and mary j blige yeah and it's it's pretty like this is the first time i've this is the most excited i've been for a super bowl halftime show and maybe the first time i've been excited for a super bowl halftime show you know the the prince thing like pleasantly you know i just wasn't really looking forward to

it but that was fucking awesome and there have been very cool super bowl halftime shows that took me by surprise i still ride very hard for the Katy Perry one I think that was a very particular kind of I mean Left Shark is iconic in American art but this this looks fucking dope I mean if they really they like I feel like there's gonna be a lot of like classics from the Dre Sno, Eminem era but like if they actually utilize Kendrick and like let him like take up a sizable like I'd say probably should be the most sizable portion of the show like it could be really dope yeah I it's I don't know they won't because like that's not the audience right uh yeah like like which songs will he do it was when i was watching the thing i was like oh i'm surprised that every single song wasn't a

dre produced track because rap god isn't a dre track but they start off eminem section with that uh mary j's family affair that's a dre track uh was it next episode with snoop that's a Dre track but then Humble that's I think Mike Will made it I was just like oh I thought but I'm I don't does do Dre and Kendrick have any tracks together all that to say is I that was my first observation of it and then yeah like to your point is like I've not really cared about the Super Bowl ever uh or like the halftime shows really that much but this this to me it's almost signaling like oh you're old because now you're in the demo like you're in the demo that when i was 14 being like why the fuck is bruce springsteen on the halftime show like the chronic just came out

that now we're at that place it's like i think this is what the adults uh in the room are fucking with and that was for me that was that moment I had was like, I have arrived. My tastes are now dictating the Super Bowl halftime show. Yeah, I think that's why the Kendrick part really excites me, because that that feels like the most relevant like artist that they've had involved in a Super Bowl halftime show since Katy Perry. I don't know. But if Kendrick hasn't had an album out, we're all just dying for some new material from him. But it also seems like a strange...

I don't always picture Kendrick. When I saw him in a commercial that was that flashy, part of me felt like that feels very un-Kendrick. Yeah, yeah. For sure. They also only got three seconds of him, like, writing a thing and then just looped that over and over again. Yeah.

Like, everybody else they had, like, going through a bunch of different, like, sets and doing different things. And they apparently got him to sit at a desk and write something and throw a piece of paper and they looped that seven times. I feel like a big part of, I't know i is this right are there usually like dancers right or like people with like the flags that like do flag stuff there's always a huge element yeah

i'm like okay that'll be cool to like you know here paired with a you know a dray song traditional like fanfare with like the next episode it's like when that uh when that crip walking line came out it was beautiful like the way they were c-walking on them it was my god i thought they were i was in neighborhood six oh i mean it should yeah they should have people crip walking right like that would It's supposed to be like an LA themed draft show No that's Violence see That's and that's where you know it could Go fucking weird where they're like

Hey you know what would be cool we dress all These white kids up like Crips Oh yeah yeah and like For when Snoop comes out and they're like Ah then it's like And it feels possible because Anything is possible in this country but yeah i i it will be it i'm i'm really curious to see how it all comes together and like

what how much mary j like how much runway she's gonna get how much mary j dancing we're gonna get because we all know she's one of the greatest dancers of our time although in her own right really mary j has a very interesting way she's unique she's unique i her own right really mary jay has a very interesting way she's unique she's unique i'm not gonna say mary jay is a bad i would never say she's a bad dancer but that's kind of what mary jay she moves she moves how she wants to when i respect the fuck you know i mean i don't expect like mariah or you know whitney houston to like be able to dance like she's you know she's just a belt no i'm just saying not even like that's an expectation i'm just saying when she catches like when you watch if you've seen a mary j live show

and she like just starts feeling it she's feeling it and i'm like saying like that's that's what i like because if sometimes people like man she sucks and i'm like like, that's what I like because sometimes people are like, man, she sucks. And I'm like, no, dude, that's like actually dope. Just because it feels very authentic. It doesn't seem like she's trying to do moves she can't do. She's doing her. This is why I never feel it. That's smart.

I refuse to feel it fully. Just stay out of the feeling. Stay in the room temp. I'm not trying to feel it fully it's just stay out of the feeling stay in the room temp yeah i'm not trying to feel it no no no i will acknowledge it fully feeling it there's that comes with risk it comes i start to feel i leave the room these things just take over my body and i think that's why and i think that's why mary j is a lesson to us all like that's why it's your you know dance like everybody's watching, but you don't give a fuck.

Right. Also just, I always enjoy seeing Dre on camera. Cause Mary J like gave a performance that was like, okay, you have five minutes in this, in this, uh,

trailer. And Dre is, you know, very awkward on camera a lot of the time and then snoop is just a fucking such a professional just killing it just so comfortable yeah and eminem was a little too into the like minority report lyric computer he was manipulating yeah he was like oh shit let me think about where this word goes okay sure eminem was given energy like he's like you know i acted an eight mile maybe i should like pursue my acting career a little bit i think yeah i think

i'm good at this but yeah it was definitely uneven but i you know i was i was more excited until you put the image in my head of like the white teenagers like running onto the field that's how like the shows always start is they're like they start close on the white teenager and then they're like come on come with me and then like you like pan as they like sprint onto the field yeah but they're like oh they're doing american sign language they're like they're stacking oh god they're throwing sets right now uh but yeah i don't it's it's it's a very it'll it'll be an interesting thing and i think like he's there were a lot of articles that were like he's on the hook for the whole bill for the halftime show or something like that who dre like so if anything were to go wrong like it's really

it's he's gonna take the biggest hit more than like the nfl would i guess the fuck that was just some something i read what does that mean i think more that he's he may be financing the whole thing like maybe as a way to get the show how he wants it i don't know there was just something that he has a stake in it that see he could stand to lose money if that doesn't happen i remember reading something to that effect with the weekend and like that it's not that lucrative gig it's more like this is the best advertisement that you could possibly get for your career but right with like artists like this it's like you're borrowing like legends to i feel like that's yeah if you could make your own super bowl halftime show with just if the Super Bowl halftime show was just made for you, give a fuck

about the ratings. Who's the band you want to see have a Super Bowl halftime show? Just you. Don't worry about mass appeal. But personally, Brian, who's a band that you want to see? My Chemical Romance. Yeah, okay.

I feel like that's not... I mean, they don't do anything anymore, but... Right. They could. Reunion. Reunion. Why not? Wait, aren't they...

Are they not doing some kind of tour again? They announced a show in Las Vegas as a part of a festival yesterday. But before that... Right. I think... I don't know. Somebody's saying it's a scam. Now, I don't know. Somebody's saying it's a scam. Now, I don't know if it's real.

Oh, no. I'm talking about the when we were young thing. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying mostly because that's Live Nation. And, you know, I think they're trying to recoup some Astral World money because those ticket prices are expensive for when we were young. Actually, that's a tweet I liked, too. But, okay, My Chemical. They would do a good, they'd do a great show.

I feel like it would be good. That's, yeah, that's what I would want. I also feel like they're into, like, the theatrics of whatever. And they could turn out some, like, Black Parade shit that would look really cool, I think. Mm-hmm. Because is it, does, is that guy gerard like involved with comics or something too he writes a comic yeah oh umbrella didn't you do umbrella academy yeah which got turned into like the netflix show yeah someone i feel like i feel like that you're gonna

come with a good halftime show if you have the vision for umbrella academy like you're not gonna be like hey man we're playing on a big star in the middle of the field you're coming in on a parachute right parachute right exactly or like or like real theatrics like superhuman feats of strength like someone just like head bangs through like a brick wall and you're like oh okay i like this wire work jack what about you i mean this isn't that far off from like what at least one of like a top three that I would pick. If you just add my favorite rapper, Flo Rida, to this, I think we'd be in business. Okay. Get people whistling.

Or Radiohead, but that feels... Radiohead's really good live, but I don't know how much they'd be good live. They're just not the demographic for the Super Bowl. Yeah. I'll take Portishead. I'd fuck with a Portishead halftime show. Just bring the fucking arena down emotionally. Yeah.

Because that would be dope, too. That's why I'm being selfish. I'm more just like, you know what? I want to see, you know, some of those bands from the mid-90s come back with the emo-ness. For sure. Well, since we're in a block that is clearly sponsored by the NFL, we might as well talk about Super Bowl commercials as well. Because for the first time in 17 years,

Lay's potato chips will be featured in a Super Bowl commercial. And the first ad in the series just dropped online they did get seth rogan for the commercial so i think people were expecting to see seth rogan in this first like teaser ad but instead it includes uh one one live actor a creepy bearded guy chanting in a basement in front of a Seth Rogen shrine. Yeah. With like lays at the altar. Yeah.

Mm hmm. So, yeah, I don't know. It's very, very strange. I don't know. Maybe they'll maybe they'll pull it off. Rogen, you did it again. You son of a bitch. What could it possibly be?

I don't know. Like they're going to. Rogan, you did it again, you son of a bitch. What could it possibly be? I don't know. I mean, you're already setting up the dynamic that this is like an obsessed stalker who's like the visuals are meant to evoke like some kind of dangerous person. And then what? It's like the Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial where it's like, hey, man, let's have some lays. Don't don't kill me. And then it's like, hey please we did it like it seems like the joke is that seth rogan is not the type of person that you stalk but we've been on the internet we know that like everybody is the type like there's every celebrity has like

wild ass there's fans out there yeah yeah but i'll just say like the vibe of this ad, Steven Wilber did it better in his Instagram picture for his guesting. Like the shrine kind of sucks. They just have like a fake magazine with Seth Rogen on it. And then like the stalker has Photoshopped himself into a framed picture and then lays potato chips for some reason. Right. That will be heavy-handed and not totally make sense or feel earned in the ad i'm assuming what's this 17 year like hiatus about yeah like why is that like that like people and like need i didn't need to know that

right i need to issue a press release for that. It seems like that is the thing they're pitching this around. Like, finally, you've been waiting. I know how at every Super Bowl party you're like, but where are the Lays ads? Well, we're back, baby, and we got Rogan. Not the one that you want, maybe. Fans of Lays might be looking for another rogan

not that one spelled slightly differently i was just looking i'm like what okay 17 years ago okay well i'm looking i know this because since i don't know time the 2004 lays commercial was the one it was like an old couple where an old man is like tripping this other old lady. They're trying to get chips and it was called Fight to the Death. 2005, I guess, which would stand to reason that was the last one they did, was the one with MC Hammer.

What did he do? After hitting a baseball over the neighbor's fence, a group of children throw over a bag of Lay's potato chips in exchange for returning their ball. They got back more than they expected when their lost dog is tossed over as well as MC Hammer and gold parachute pants. And then they're like,

we can't do this anymore. We can't do this anymore. That broke their spirit. Yeah. They're like, we got to stop. This is, let's say hiatus.

Yeah. They clearly, they think they learned their lesson. They're like, we took 17 years off. We've been in the writer's room for these commercials. We think we got something good with Sethh rogan and i don't know i hope they actually pull through but if not maybe they'll go away for another 17 years yeah it's like it's the equivalent of uh those bugs that only come out

every 17 years oh like the cicadas yeah yeah well and and i guess like i know you were kind of maybe joking but like i'd imagine all the labor dispute stuff maybe they're like hey the only stuff about us out there right now is that we work people to death yeah i i had assumed they had just like when they stopped advertising much like i assumed they had just like literally given up and been like, well, people know like the Internet exists now. People know that our chips like are not that great. Like they're not the best potato chips out there or even like top three in their category, I feel like just in terms of quality. But yeah, it seems like something has spurred them to action. has spurred them to action. Maybe the fact that they are making people work 84-hour work weeks and quote what was called within the factory suicide shifts with only an eight-hour break

between shifts. And, you know, the workers went on strike and that got a lot of attention from younger people. And so maybe this is their attempt to be like, all right, what's young and hip and very progressive. Ah, the NFL, head injuries. We love it.

I'm like, I was that, isn't that that new Tim Ferriss book, the 84 hour work week. That's right. Uh, no, that's,

that's a book by the people that Tim Ferriss makes work for him so that he can do a five-hour work week and then travel around. Hey, I've got a Ferrari and I live in Dubai. How do I do it? Getting other people to sell nutrient supplements. But anyways, yeah, so that's Lays. They're also doing this weird thing where they take dirt from each NFL team's home field and then sprinkle that dirt over their potato farms. And then you can buy a potato chip bag that is grown in the soil of your team's home field. And that is very cool it feels very like what are

they mimicking here when they're like and we take the land from these places and then we will commodify that in a fucking aluminum bag back to the consumer like is that when i eat those chips am i supposed to feel like an athlete or something like right yeah like okay oh i don't know i don't think so i don't know i actually have no idea what you're supposed to feel other than it is it's just fun like i actually this idea of taking the dirt from the field sowing it into the potato fields where you grow the chips, growing potatoes in your home field dirt, and then selling those chips to super fans. I think they're limited edition chips.

This is their attempt to create the off-whites of potato chips that are going to sell on stock X or whatever. I'm, I'm even having trouble thinking of a field that isn't turf. Yeah. So there's a bunch of, uh, there's a bunch of fields in the NFL that are turf.

And for those, they're like, they were grown in the glory of their team's grounds. So they, they keep keep it it's a scam well yeah i'm sorry jackie you had me you really had me until then i was on board for this weird like appropriative ritual of moving the land to grow your cowboy potatoes even in the video that they have they so first of all they have the mascot digging up the dirt, which I'm not buying, frankly.

I don't think the mascots for each team do their groundwork. But then they just put it in a little bag of, or not in a bag, in a little Tupperware container and ship that off. But this idea, this whole concept that they have going on here, just more than anything reminds me of all of the brainpower that we have working on selling the dumbest shit in this country. This probably took 14 Ivy League grads to like come up with a like working around the

clock for like six months came up with this concept and or you know in a different strand of reality in a different alternate timeline those ivy league grads are working on like fixing the infrastructure but right not this one baby yeah but the the sad thing is i feel like if they did something like that for arsenal i'd probably buy it so yeah i don't know if i have room to talk but like that's what i'm saying i'm not i'm not making fun of the idea as much as the fact of the society that creates a reality where this idea is invented where where people have enough time and incentive to come up with this idea. Right.

But yeah, I'm going to, this has me hungry for, for some potato chips, New York giants chips. Yeah. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist.

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