The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 211 (Best of 1/31/22-2/4/22)

Episode Date: February 6, 2022

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Dave Ross! Oh my god, hello. What an intro. What's up? Thank you. Welcome to you.

So, I love the... Sorry, my phone just fell out of my pocket. I'm trying this new thing where I don't have the case on the outside of my phone. I just have the screen cover. And it just makes your phone so slippery. It just falls all over the place. It's a mess. I did not know you liked to live so dangerously, Jack. I thought you were just conservative dad.

But here you are just being like, you know, if my phone breaks, it breaks. She said conservative dad? Not conservative in your politics, but, you know, in your mannerisms. Damn. I mean, I do get very excited about door clamps and just C-clamps, clamps of all sizes. You know, a lot of people think that I won't go into it. We'll do that on a future episode. I don't want to burn all my good material up top. Man, it is interesting to find that you as a podcast host don't have an anxiety disorder as big as mine. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Which is what drives me to keep my case on my iPhone all the time. What I have is ADD and a daily podcast where I like find out stuff. Like I found out last week there's this thing called the back tap where you can like tap the back of your phone if you don't have a case on it. And it like is like a fourth hidden button on your iPhone. And you can program it to do things such as open Shazam. I'm told I haven't figured that one out yet. What?

Yeah, I haven't figured it out. And I've only used it like once. This sounds like you're trying to get me to, this is some sort of like lie to get me to break my phone. Right. Like the pool on top of the middle school where you like laugh at the kid trying to go up there. If you throw it at the ground, you get money. Money just comes out of the coins.

Yeah, it just becomes gold. Try it. Yeah. I'm obsessed with the premise of your podcast. What's it called is where you guys rename stuff, right? Yes. Yes. It's a man.

You know what? Like, you know how it is. You make something you don't want to like blow smoke. I don't want to like act like I'm so great or something, but I've made a lot of stuff. And that podcast is the most fun I've ever had. That's great. Yeah. I've made a lot of stuff, and that podcast is the most fun I've ever had.

That's great. Yeah, we just pick something either in pop culture or something in the past pop culture and come up with new names from it. Pre-2017. Like, really old stuff. Like, ancient history. Yeah, like, Middle Ages stuff, like, from two years ago and then, like, thousands of years ago, like, 2017. Yeah, it's fun, man. I host with Caleb Sinan.

He's a lot of fun. Also, previous guest on this show. Oh, great. And you guys recently did Taco Bell. Yeah, that episode came out yesterday. This is February 1st. Yeah, it came out yesterday, man. Yeah.

And I don't remember what we renamed it. Right. But it's about the journey, right? Yes, it really is. I don't really even we renamed it. Right. But it's about the journey, right? Yes, it really is. I don't really even know if we pick one. Yeah. It's not like somebody could just go in and do the answers. Just a list of answers.

Here's what they named it. Don't worry. You don't have to listen to the show. I feel like a time or two we have a definitive, like, this should be the name. Like, we renamed Titanic BOAT, all caps. And that made us both laugh. So we were like, all right, we're done. This is a short episode. Yeah.

But yeah, the rest are left up to interpretation, for sure. Yeah, yeah. The movie, BOAT. BOAT. Yeah, the movie. No, not the boat. Though, naming the boat BOAT might have made history a little more fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Amazing. Boat died. Boat hit ice. And everyone died. If the news were like that, that would be a lot of fun. Boat hit ice. I'm just saying that if James Cameron wasn't so intent on naming everything something that begins with T or A. It's A or T are his only options.

begins with T or A. It's A or T are his only options. But Boat, he could have created a whole franchise, which apparently he loves doing based on the Avatar franchise. There is an Avatar 2 coming, isn't there? Yeah, this year, supposedly. Nothing is more mind-blowing to me than that. That seems like the grossest misinterpretation of why a movie made money in the history of movies.

And yet, Dave, I am excited for it. Well, I'm so sorry. Listen, Disney invested an entire part into Avatar, so they're definitely going to keep those movies coming back. Is that true? Did I just not get it like i thought that we all were like this is bad but the fireflies being flying around your head were cool right so the 3d technology i do think was a major factor in why people like went and saw it in the first place but it definitely has its diehard fans and they are like desperate for this second movie and it's also there's just cameron stands

you know so it'll probably like all hollywood movies that are not that great actually that'll still make money in the park will still look cool and we'll probably get another dope flying ride out of it so you know it's like sage capos and we're just gonna enjoy the ride yeah yeah and you know like special effects are great and great scif like good looking sci-fi is great you know yeah i'm sure i'll feel the same way about the first movie i'll love the park i'll love watching it and i'll just think the plot was dumb but i'll probably have a good time yeah yeah literally how i felt the fact that the ride is supposedly so good is what mostly excites me because i haven't done that but like i don't. He just like doesn't doesn't miss that often.

He generally like creates a good time at the movie theater. So I'm assuming a lot based on that, you know, conservative dads are out here and we're like Jim, Jim Cameron. He you know, if he believes in it, then we do, too. That's the conservative dad promise. What is something from your search history? Should I upgrade from the S21 Ultra to the S22 Ultra? All right.

Okay. I don't know what the fuck that means. That's a, that's, that's a Samsung life. So let me, let me, right. Am I right? That's that guy. That's that Android. Right.

That's an Android life. Yeah. So, you know what? I think it was one of the first quotes when my show was on iHeart that people related to when I was like, iPhones are the all-life matters of cell phones because people be... People be shitting on people.

And I had an Android for this. I got an iPhone now because I was given a free iPhone. And I was like, all right, free phone. I'll take it. I need to upgrade. But I was Android life for a while and the segregation that Apple does with the iPhone is ridiculous.

Because you know what it is, for me, having an Android is like having one of those remember when the old laptops were huge and they had the big assass dusty fan on it? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Sounded like it was taking off. Yeah. And then having an iPhone, it's like, you know those little toy computers where you would open up and be like, would you like to play a game? It's like that. And you get all the same stuff done, but it's just it's simpler and easier yeah right with the iphone but but then when i want to do something complex it's like i'm always going running back yeah you can't you can't so you know to answer your question i don't know if you came up with the answer yet but yeah man go ahead keep it alive for the android family i mean the truth of the matter is anybody that's googling that question is getting the s22

what are we even talking about here of course i'm gonna get it i know i get i'm always get it you know yeah really is the answer no you're good like yeah that's not what you end up fun what if the first what if the first answer was nah man go ahead and get that iphone bro oh yeah i like i like i'm not anti-iphone though but they but boy are get that iphone bro oh yeah somebody would i mean yeah i like i like i'm not anti iphone though but they but boy are the the iphone you know fans they're they man they're like they like supporters yeah they just rabbit any criticism they can't handle it's funny because the iphone like you pointed out the iphone is designed like for stupid people or like people who aren't good at using technology and, you know, need it put on a platter for them and made like fun and pretty. And then to be a snob about that, to be like, well, I like I just like the design simplicity of it.

It's like, well, you you like the fact that it's made for a child so that a child could use it. But that's not a thing to be snobby about. iPhones are made for anybody. Right. But that's a weird thing to take pride in and look down your nose at somebody else about. And the Android I made for the smart ones. Now, I do have an iPhone now, so I'm not including myself in that. But for everybody else that has an iPhone, I feel like the only difference I've ever noticed is like between the two is like my sister in law is always Android and her pictures look a lot better than anybody else's pictures.

those pictures like i don't know if she's just good at it or if her phone just has better phone she has man because right because because listen the worst phones in the world are androids right right yeah but buying the newest iphone doesn't necessarily mean you have the best phone but people that people that are iphone people just think that yeah they think they just i see i'm because i always got the latest i usually have a note that's why i'm thinking about the s22 i usually have the latest note and i have motherfuckers with an iphone 8 like looking at me snobby because they got a they got a different color text from me or something like they they really it's even it's even comedians that's on this that think yeah oh you got oh you got a green bubble or whatever the fuck the color it comes on there oh and it's like i thought you were successful yeah you got four megapixels on your camera leave

me alone right out of here boy you got a you got a back you got this you got the default background on there man because you can't change your wallpaper your phone stopped being able to update six years ago the reason i could could never break into Android is because from the start, what you said your search terms were, my mind kind of turned off because that sounds complicated to me. I just got my Oculus, man. I'm out of here. I just got one, too. All right, Brian. Let me tell you. Hey. Look, have you done

Thriller to Fight yet? No, I haven't. I just downloaded it. Because yesterday, I went through the store. I just got it yesterday. I went through the store. I bought a bunch of games. I mean, I favorited a bunch of games. And then this morning, I went through and actually bought them.

So I got Thriller to Fight. Only one I had a chance to play was Robo Recall. Okay. Okay. Alright. But I'm gonna get it though. Thriller to Fight. Thriller to Fight. Let me tell you, bro. Beat Saber is good. Get you some water. You need to prepare for like get your workout

clothes on. Yeah, man. Because that shit, you will sweat. It's like that, bro. It is so hard thrill of the fight is so every everybody i put it on they want one i know yeah yeah everybody bro i took it i did a christmas podcast yesterday and my oculus was in my backpack i was like you tried this yeah he's like nah i put that joint on him he was like yo yo. Yo, give me $4. You ordered one from inside. Yeah. My mom even did that shit. I let my mom play Beat Saber.

And she was like, how much that cost? I'm like, mommy, wait. You don't need no fucking VR. You ain't going to use it. And she bought that shit. You saw the video? It's a viral video. I don't know if it's viral.

It's not even real anymore. But it's a dude. He walked in on his mom. She had the headset on. Her knees was out of the bed like, ah, ah, ah. No! Yeah! For the listeners,

there was a show being Panama'd. Because an older woman ain't going to get caught that easy. You know what I'm saying? That's good staging, though. in Panama. Because an older woman ain't going to get caught that easy. I thought I had it in stage. That's good staging, though. That's a well-planned viral video. You ever caught a woman masturbating?

That don't happen. Women don't even have those stories. Nah, they don't. All you got to do to catch a man masturbating is leave the house for two minutes and walk back in. He waiting for your ass to leave so he can jerk off. Why is the towel crispy? What's wrong with your socks, baby?

Gina, what's something you think is overrated? The North Face. Oh, okay. I think the North Face is overrated to be 100% honest. I got a couple of things listed, but that one jumped out at me right away. Now, we're talking about the clothing company, not the North Face of an actual mountain. Yes, the North Face clothing company.

Okay. And I got some. I got a pair of shoes there, and I have a coat. You know, I used to live in Brooklyn, so you have to have a North Face jacket. Right, you gotta have that bubble jacket. You live in Brooklyn. Gotta have it. But it's just ski clothes.

That's all it is. It's ski clothes. It's clothes for skiing. And everyone's wearing them, but you're supposed to ski with them. This seems... I don't know. I don't know. Like it's overkill?

It's overkill. I want to see a little more imagination in my street fashions. I just think that North Face is just, you know, it's played out. I'm feeling it. That's the only way. I feel like there's just too much North Face out there. Okay. It's like the Midwest uniform, which is like, you know, a pair of black leggings, some brown Ugg boots, and like, you know, a a cream colored sweater maybe you know something

like a very basic or one of the classic like navy blue north face fleece also can go with that outfit you know i get i get some people don't desire to be creative in their wardrobe and that's a choice you know but i agree with you that if we're gonna go like style wise like this is functional clothing it's not artistically expressive in any way. So, yeah. Yeah. You get to choose what's on your body. And like every day, the North Face, that's choices.

Choices have been made. Look, as someone who grew up in a very hot place, I'm not going to lie. I love a puffer jacket because I can't wear them here. But you're damn sure if i go anywhere that's like below fucking like 60 degrees i'm like oh shit i gotta get the north face i got i don't have a north face however i will say this if you like north face they had a fleece version of their nupcy jacket whereas fleece on the outside that shit looked kind of cool to me all right anyway it's not a north face podcast but i it. It's a little bit overkill.

What else do you have that's overrated? The Slack. It's basically just aimed for business people. Peace. Preach. Gina, preach. Okay, I have a day job. And they were talking about how this client was getting upset about using email.

And there was this thread in the slack channel where they're like email is just so retro we should we should give them a slack channel and i'm like guys come on you're just you're just aiming them you're just texting them it's not slack isn't this thing that like revolutionizes shit it's just a little it's a little application you can talk on right yeah it's also the great distractor like yes it absolutely just creates more chaos they're like no like all your thoughts will be organized and neater in this platform but what really happens is now not only do i check my email and my text messages but also i'm constantly being pinged by slack and because humans are humans often it's not

about work and now i'm pissed what are you dragging me into i'm so busy i hate slack i so when i was in freelance every different place i was freelancing had their own individual slack and they all expected you to check it 24 7 i have add so obviously that didn't work it was chaos i hated it yeah i every time it's funny like whenever there i've been in a company with slack i just don't use it i'm just like i wish i wish you email me you could either like we use slack i'm like well i don't so yeah let's just fucking find me because i can't i can't do my work and constantly have people asking like the most microscopic questions constantly and have to answer in real time but anyway shout out to the sponsor slack. Yeah, good old Slack.

What is something you think is underrated? I was thinking about this, and I think for like a heterosexual male to be Little Spoon is very, very underrated. I don't see a lot of guys talking about this. I feel like I'm kind of in a unique position because my wife is very tall. She's six foot two and I'm five nine. So there's like a, there's a height disparity where,

I mean, we kind of look like unlikely animal friends, like a YouTube video of that. But during the pandemic, I really started leaning, like she would be big spoon. And I was like, this is just the best. Why aren't people talking about how this is the greatest thing in the whole world? And it just, it could, you know, I guess maybe guys are commonly expected to be big spoon,

but for me to be little spoon, I just like, now I just, I like ask for it like a little kid now. Can I be Little Spoon? And it just, it just feels so great. And I encourage everyone to do it if they haven't and to lean into it because it's, it's just a really nice feeling. And I'll, I'll piggyback off that because I'm, I'm six feet tall. And if you're, you know, a woman that's never been the big spoon before, it's fun.

You know, you're like, wow, this is a it's not like it's an inherently powerful thing, but you're just like, I'm in charge of the cuddle. Yeah, right. You're the cuddle boss. Yeah. Rare to be the alpha in that situation for me. But then it's like when you once you get a taste of of it you're just like damn all right yeah men have been feeling like this all the time i'm in charge and i'm like ladies this feels nice i get this like i'm like oh it's just a warm and cozy

nice feeling and uh i encourage everyone to do it. It's nice. Yeah. Love it. Do you ever just whisper, I could crush you right now, Jamie, when you're doing it? You don't have to make it about the power, but just like a statement of fact. Yeah. I mean, I like to remind people how easily I could turn it into a headlock if things got serious. You watch MMA? Yeah, I'm just saying this is

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despite economic sanctions. And, you know, we've mentioned economic sanctions at various times. We mostly focus on, you know, U.S. news. But when we do talk about international news, it's kind of impossible to ignore. But I don't think people, I don't think I, like, even fully understood the, like, violence of economic sanctions. But Asal, you've been discussing them, like, either on Twitter or, you know, in the context of Afghanistan and Iran. And I was just wondering if you could kind of speak to like what it means, like what happens when the U.S. puts economic sanctions on a country? Yeah, I mean, I think what you sort of like suggested right now is this, and it's an idea within the country. I think people don't realize it, right? When you hear, when we hear

economic sanctions, we think like, well, it's not war. So that's better. That's like a nice alternative. It's like the benign way of pressuring governments rather than going to war with them. And the reality is, is that it's not benign. It's extreme. I mean, it is akin to war in the sense that like why we say, we don't say like we shouldn't go to war because we're wasting our, I mean, we do say because partially because we're wasting our own resources, but like part of the moral argument behind why we should avoid like war and conflict in terms of the notion of like an international community and why we founded those things was really like in the wake of these massive wars,

World War I, World War II, just the amount of destruction, devastation, and death that was caused by it. It was like, you know, sort of a wake up call for the world saying, hey, there should be better ways for us to figure out our differences or our problems. And so this idea of economic coercion and economic pressure is presented like it's the nice way of doing things, whereas it also causes devastation and destruction, and people die because of sanctions, people lose their livelihoods, their jobs, they live

in poverty. I mean, that is why we say we shouldn't go to war. And yet, the other part of sort of this presentation of sanctions, the way it's talked about by U.S. administrations, and it's not unique to any political party, it's not, I mean, talked about by U.S. administrations, and it's not unique to any political party. It's not, I mean, this is just, this is U.S. foreign policy, is that they target these governments that we don't like, right? Governments that, you know, partake in behaviors that is not in the interest of the United States that we don't like for X, Y, and Z reasons that we give.

But in fact, they target civilians. Right. And we know this. I mean, the literature on sanctions is so clear of who is actually being hurt by it. And, you know, sort of these exemptions, these humanitarian exemptions get written into sanctions law. But the reality of it is it doesn't work because, you know, you're looking at like, what is a what is a sanction? If like a bank is sanctioned, a central bank of a country is sanctioned and they're trying to purchase medicines, right? They're trying to purchase vaccines, we'll say. In order to purchase something, you need a transaction. There's always a third party,

there's a bank, some kind of financial entity in the middle that allows that transaction to take place. And they're so scared of violating US sanctions, that they just don't do it. They won't do it. It's not a question of whether or not they can legally, they just won't, because it's not worth it from a business perspective. If you're a bank, right, it's not worth it for you to allow this transaction to take place in case, you know, you violate US sanctions. And part of it is because there's so many. It's, I mean, we ever tried to read some of the bills and things that come out of Congress? Just like legal language is complicated for most people to understand.

Oh, yeah. And so now you have all of these sanctions. You have, like, Iran is the most sanctioned country in the world. You're talking about like well over a thousand sanctions, right? You have entities, like financial entities in Iran that are double or triple sanctioned. So they're not just sanctioned once, if that even makes sense, but they're sanctioned under different designations. So there's just this really complex web of sanctions. And then you expect financial institutions to partake in transactions. They don't. And so what happens is you have countries

that have essential goods that they can't get you have scarcity hyperinflation unemployment people losing literally losing their livelihoods right i mean in iran you have we had studies from last year that said something like 10 to 15 percent of the middle class had been forced into poverty that's millions of people and that's not that's not the government these governments stay in place i mean the most sort of obvious example is cuba it's a 60-year embargo what do you do for 60 years that doesn't work that you think year 61 is going to do the trick right yeah they'll come around yeah we're we're close to getting them well and there's the fact, there's the additional problem, which is, you know, if you're looking at it from the United States, our politicians and repeated U.S. administrations talk about this idea of like an international rules-based order, international law, how like, you know, there's an international community. We love using these phrases.

But then like something like 172 countries vote uh to for the 30th year in a row to end the embargo on cuba and two countries say no the u.s and israel right and so that's a done deal no embargo is not going to be lifted so it's like what is that the international community then is it just these two countries and the other 170 forget what they have to say. So it's, it's a combination of the policy and how the policy is implemented when you look at it on a sort of like international scale. And the fact that we just don't do any of these things consistently. Like, we're like, oh, we don't like this country. So they're going to get sanctioned. But this other country that does the exact same thing, you guys are cool. You, you're never going to get sanctioned no matter what you do yeah yeah i agree it's it's such a like you would think like it's all politics but it's like no it's all like money and playing favorites and doing and making the u.s money and making israel money and if you can't do that then honey you don't got a shot and your people have to now starve to death in the streets and they can't have ppe and they can't have you know basic human rights because the u.s is like not feeling it it's a real it's so dark that it's just generally there's no like there's nothing that they can say like even we watch it we watch it on the news we watch biden be like this has to happen because of

this this and this and you're like not really right like but we can see you can go online and read what's happening you can go online and see like actual news you can go to like al jazeera you can go to like read what's going on and be like i don't know i just don't think that's necessary to the extremes that we take it to especially with iran when you can actually go and look at what's being reported about their nuclear program and these choice and these are just it's just like well i don't know israel's like not feeling it right you're like oh well oh well good oh well you're right yeah well i've tried to pose this question where it's like okay so let's say right now there's a lot of talk about russia and ukraine right it's just russia ukraine russia

ukraine constantly and what is what is it that we're saying russia is doing that's wrong that they shouldn't be doing ukraine is a sovereign nation russia can't invade a sovereign nation i mean is no one seeing the irony of the United States saying you can't invade sovereign countries? So that's a basis for, we're going to massively punish the Russian government. The Russian government, I put in quotes, because again, it's broad scale sanctions would punish Russian people, but we're going to punish the Russian government because they invaded a sovereign country. Same thing we did. We put sanctions for human rights violations. The US is obviously a country that through its own wars and committing war crimes is abusing human rights. And domestically, of course, you can talk about

systemic racism. You can talk about the fact that we have the most prisoners in the world. In fact, one of every four prisoners on the planet is in the United States. So these are all things that we could, that we sanction other countries for that we do ourselves. We sanction members of other countries, politicians in other countries on corruption charges. This while, while in the US, US politicians buy stocks and make money off of industries that they regulate, which in any other context we would call corruption, but in the US it's called capitalism. So there's that. So the question becomes, okay, would it be justified if right now Americans lost their savings, were starving, couldn't access

medicines in a pandemic because of the actions of the US government, which according to the government itself are all sanctionable crimes, right? Because that's what we say to other countries. So it's just this constant loop of hypocrisy. That is, if you pay attention to it long enough, you miss being bored. Like I said, boredom, it is underrated. It's just the more you pay attention, the more frustrating it is. Because like, what we're just full of shit. That's the only way of saying it. That's very honest. It's like we just we do things and then punish other countries for doing the same things we do. Right. You retweeted a headline about over a million flee as Afghanistan's economy collapses and added that Afghans are selling their children and organs to survive while the U.S. is intentionally choking Afghanistan's economy because we lost a 20-year war. Like, that's, yeah, that's just, I feel like that is not getting

the level of attention that it probably deserves in the mainstream media. Like, that is what is happening. That is the consequence. And it's being done in these bills and that that if you read them all it would break your brain like you you come out like the other end with just like a 30 000 mile stare because so like they they know how to do it in a way that is so boring that people won't pay attention to it. But the whole idea of economic sanctions and how Americans kind of justify it to themselves reminds me of the attitude of corporations who want credit for giving jobs to people,

who think people should be grateful for... Trump at one point was asked what humanitarian thing, to name a single humanitarian thing he'd ever done and he talked about like well I feed and clothe thousands of people who work for my company I give so many jobs I'm a job creator and like that idea that like rather than like these are people I should be grateful to because they serve me and I get to be a billionaire celebrity. Instead of that, it's like, you know, they owe me because I created this job, even though that job would have been there just with a different asshole at the top, probably,

if Donald Trump didn't exist. But like with the U.S. and sanctions, obviously it's different. But like, I feel like it's similar logic, like the U.S. creates the situations where they need people to do things that aren't in their best interest and then starve them when they don't do those things. And again, they act like they should get credit for like any economic activity that happens anywhere in the world and it's like their right to withhold economic activity like the u.s economy is coming over there and like feeding them normally and then just choosing not to with economic sanctions but like it would be easier for them to do nothing and let children eat and let their families get the food that the global economy would bring to them. But instead, they are doing a great deal of work to kill people, to starve people in ways that are just like don't don't make headlines yeah that

the fact that it doesn't make headlines is the important part right there were a lot of headlines during the afghanistan withdrawal so withdrawing from afghanistan everyone across the media spectrum was constantly talking about it and and on sort of uh right-wing media that wanted to criticize biden for withdrawing it was a question of abandoning the Afghan people, right? It was, we're abandoning the, so that was the big thing. It's like, oh, look what we're doing to Afghan people because they, of course, care so deeply about the population of Afghanistan.

Now those same people are just silent on the fact that you have, I mean, when you read the stories about people literally lining up to like sell organs, because they're trying to survive, they're, they're, when people talk about selling their children, there's another situation, there's another humanitarian crisis, what has been deemed the worst humanitarian crisis in the world in Yemen, which the US is also complicit in. So I always think, like, think about that fact, here we are talking about human rights, we were centering

human rights and foreign policy, and we love human they're so important to us and yet the u.s is complicit in the world's worst ongoing humanitarian crisis and is now complicit and actually actively involved in the world's worst oncoming humanitarian crisis in afghanistan so number one and number two the u.s is behind that in both cases it's like how can you still reasonably say that we are concerned about you know the the the fate of afghan people when you know more than half the population is facing starvation in a freezing winter and we just do nothing about it we will spend so we will spend this the united states will spend trillions of dollars uh put american soldiers and harms away a wage a war and bomb a country for two decades

in the name of liberating them but then won't lift a finger to not let them starve yeah like this doesn't require the u.s to do anything just allow them access to the what belongs to the afghan people like the the funds of the central bank of afghanistan belongs to the afghan people right and that is being frozen they have no access to it this would which is what central reason why the economy is in freefall it's collapsing right yeah it's requiring intervention by the U.S. to put these sanctions in place. And that is preventing that. Like, it's like, I think people just have such a U.S. centric view of the world that they're just like, yeah, well, they don't get the nice things that we give to other countries as opposed to know the U.S. is going in and like freezing their economy essentially and starving people as a consequence like i mean think about the fact that the projections are that more afghans will die of starvation now in the as a consequence of u.s economic policy then died in 20 years war jesus wow it's uh and then you know naturally the u.s will then go sell

weapons into the region and make money off that causing further destabilization and violence it's great yeah we just make money it's for us to make money right every time it's actually one of the most interesting points it's like oh look at these quote terrorists who have weapons they get weapons i'm like well you know if you wanted less weapons in the middle east you could just stop selling them there yeah you could stop giving them weapons yeah it's like oh saudi arabia is committing war crimes in yemen guess who the u.s america's number one arms buyer is saudi arabia and we just sell them over and over again with no you know with no thought it's like where we have the world's leading like i think something like 40 percent close to 40 percent of the entire world's military budget is spent by the u.s we're also the world's

number one arms dealer and it's just like well we are are so much of our economy is run on weapons and it's like oh we're we're a peaceful nation i'm like that doesn't add up that doesn't really add up very well yeah that's the degree to which the u.s economy since like the beginning of the 20th century has been propped up by the military military industrial complex and like we we like it came up when people were comparing some of the budgetary you know infrastructure bills or like humanitarian aid domestically with the defense budget and they were like oh this thing that's being described in the media as a $10 billion bill that's over the course of like a decade. And the military budget is 10 times that for just this year. Like it's just invisible to people and therefore just like so powerful and just like gets away with like doing really whatever they want. But I think it like is the secret behind the U.S. economy that like Americans don't want to look at is that the entire economy is propped up by the fact that they spend as much as they want on the military, on weapons.

And yeah, it's horrible. Yeah, I think that comparison point was so important, right? When we looked at like Build Back Better or anything where it was social services, right? Like services, actually safety nets for American people cannot get that passed in Congress. Even a Congress that is a house and Senate with Democrat majorities and Democrat white house. Uh, I think one of the biggest frustrations for me is when you listen to like the Biden ad and say, Oh, it's the Republicans. I'm like, well, is it? Yeah. Like it is to a certain extent, but also you have the majority in everything. So

somehow amazingly the Republicans, when they are a majority, can do whatever they want. And then when they're a minority, they can block everything. Right. And Democrats are always helpless. Hmm. Majority or minority are always helpless. Almost as if that's their job. Secretly, that's what they're there for, is to be bad.

As if they're not all money in their pockets as well yeah to like claim the progressive ideals but then actually not not get any of them to move forward well in order to sort of like sell this idea first of all the fact that it's called defense budget is itself complete right like we're not we are no one is attacking us here right like when this has not happened in a while in america yeah whereas everywhere else in the world they're like if you look at the middle east especially where we've had the biggest footprint in the last couple of decades, I mean, there's constant, constant war all over the region. And so we talk about defense when our military is across the world. Like no one is at our borders.

We have the U.S. military bases all over the world. We have, you know, in the middle of the Persian Gulf, you have the U.S. Coast Guard. I love that. That's one of my favorite things. The U.S. Coast Guard. the U.S. Coast Guard. I love that. That's one of my favorite things. The U.S. Coast Guard. The U.S. Coast Guard. The guard of the U.S. Coast is in the Persian Gulf. And so you have to have this sort of media hysteria that we're always in danger because the only way to justify the amount of money we spend is that to protect Americans. I mean, I think Biden actually said that today about the attack in syria that took out i don't know how many leaders isis has but

yet another isis leader that took out an isis leader killed a few several civilians and then he said something to the effect of or tweeted something to the effect of you know protecting american lives at home or something like but syria is not attacking the US. There are no Syrian troops in the US. There are no Syrian troops or military bases anywhere close, not even on the same hemisphere. And somehow that's the way that it's framed. So these countries are all a threat to the US, Russia, China, Iran. At one point it was Iraq, which is why we had to invade, Afghanistan, which is why we had to invade. So we're bombarded, which is why we had to invade Afghanistan, which is why we had to invade. So you're we're we're bombarded, which is like psychological torture to do that to your own people. Like

we are bombarded with messages that tell us we are always under threat. So that justifies just trillions of dollars constantly being spent on on wars abroad. Yeah, it's real fucking mess. Here's my pitch. So we continue to call it the defense budget right but we pivot it to social services but we continue to call the defense budget because we need defense from the u.s government right the people because even one third of that budget could do miracles for this country's social services yeah just even the bare minimum to give us health care right i think it used to be called like the war budget or something howard zinn writes about that

in a people's history of the united states that the department changed its name when they stopped waging defensive wars and like moved into starting to be like offensive they changed their name to department of defense to throw everybody off the scent and yeah it was department of war that's what it was it was department of war and department of war became department of defense yeah and can you imagine how much they paid the pr agency that helped them pivot like and we just kind of want to have a more positive spin maybe let me make it look like we're in trouble they probably gave them cartoon bombs yeah that's probably where it all comes from to like now make all imagery a little cartoonish right and everyone will be like oh my god how cute we do need that nuclear bomb okay great all right let's take a quick break and we're gonna come back

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It would make sense to me. I mean, it depends on how you're envisioning a goth. But he seems like a softcore goth, you know? He's not giant, chunky boots and heavy black makeup. But I could hear him listening to death metal and, you know, I don't know, reading Marx. Yeah, soft goth. Okay, I like that. Yeah agree i agree two important details from nicholas cage when the man had the money he bought a dinosaur skeleton very tough i like that and when given you know the marvel canon to to be a

hero he picked ghost rider very god very god very god interest okay damn see i'm glad i got two experts with me here well he just did an interview with the la times and he discussed all kinds of things like his career his relationship with his unky francis ford coppola his kids and you know even his new role playing dracula in the upcoming uh film called renfield and the thing i wasn't aware of again is that he's a bit of a goth. He talks about his pets, and this is where he starts revealing his goth cred. He says he also has a crow named Hoogan, H-O-O-G-A-N, who lives in a geodesic dome at Cage's home in Las Vegas.

This is a quote from Nick Cage. He has taken to calling me names. It's comical. At least it is to me. He has taken to calling me names. It's comical. At least it is to me. When I leave the room, he'll say bye.

And then go, ass. Crows are very intelligent. And I like their appearance. The Edgar Allan Poe aspect. I like the goth element. I am a goth. This is the greatest. Nice.

Nice. I can't believe I didn't see this before i really love the idea of nick cage in his lost vegas home right is he one of those vegas people who is constantly watering their lawns they have like a lush green lawn and water quickly disappears or is he like embracing the desert aesthetic where it's like all uh what do you i forget what you call those plants that grow in the desert uh succucculents, cactus. There you go. Low water. Because they have a succulent garden, which to me, beautiful.

And I also like that he has a geodome for his crow. What's in there? Is he just throwing like rabbit carcasses in there? Listen, an entire movie on this alone. Like, I just want to see him get into his house. Like, his crow speaks, which I didn't know crows could do. Do they speak? Or is he just imagining this crow is calling him an ass?

Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I don't know. I think I found his home on Zillow. And it looks like Lex Luthor's fuckpad. Yes, it does. Okay, perfect.

Perfect. I'm going to put it in the chat so you can see it. Now, this is his former home that was listed at the like this last summer in 2021 so i don't know if that's the same as what he's got now but this house definitely is is not goth i'm sorry i'm gonna have to take your goth card sir if you're oh that is not goth at all yeah no that that looks like kim kardashian's house. That is very un-goth. Very un-goth. What do you think his definition of goth is?

Because clearly he's like, I like a crow like Edgar Allan Poe. I'm goth. Like, it also just feels like he just said that. You know what I mean? The talking crow? Very goth. The miniature Epcot Center for the crow to live in? Not too goth.

I don't know. I still think squishy goths like have you guys ever seen like the the goth girls who like all their goth gear is pink so it's the same kind of like giant metal thing i think goths come in a beautiful array yeah and i also feel like if you just identify like i believe he has a dark soul you know what i mean right like goths are some of the squishiest people, but their souls are dark. You think about, like, dark things a lot. And listen, I think if you're going to keep a crow in your house, there's a little goth in you somewhere. I agree. But the crow lives in Epcot Center, so he mixes it up a little bit.

He's a Disney goth. What's a more goth thing, like a skull cage or something? He's a Disney goth. What's a more goth thing, like a skull cage or something? Yeah, or just like some like wrought iron like cage that you could trace its lineage back, you know, to the Carpathian Mountains, something like that. Oh, shit, right. It's like this is actually purported to be like part of like a melted down collection of swords Vlad the Impaler had. Yes. And you're like oh okay it's like i'm looking at this this actually it's stamped this is made in china

they make them all over anthropology sells it yeah i would love to scam nicholas k's on some fake god shit oh no i mean i want to say maybe one of his dinosaur skeletons was fake. So I think the man can be scammed. Yeah, maybe it's already happened, right? I will say, though, he's not nuts. Birdsadvice.com says, yes, crows can talk in the same way as parrots do, using their syrnics, which is basically their vocal cords, to mimic words and sounds they hear and repeat them.

Despite not always being so close to humans, they're pretty good at mimicking human speech. Without any mutilating. Which is wild. If a crow ever spoke to me that's it. I'll die. I'll straight fall on the ground. Don't speak to me crow.

I'm already afraid of birds. Did you see that one TikTok? I don't know if y'all are on TikTok a lot. But there's a TikTok that came out like six months ago. That blew up about this lady who. I forget who the person was but this person like befriended a fucking crow and they were just like first like kind of feeding the crow and loki the crow like was always just checking for this person and eventually just like would fly on this person's shoulder and oh my god the crow fucking with me i can't believe this shit and it was one it was like i

got so excited on the idea of like having a loyal crow um maybe i'm goth too fuck it i mean it could be a little i think i'm more health goth health goth what is a health goth i mean that sounds fascinating that's like a whole sub like fashion style of goth of like it's more like fashion like black fat like yes like you're wearing like like life's like uh active wear but it's more goth oh yeah yeah active wear goth active yeah lemon goth collection yeah i couldn't think of something less you up and you pull up in some lululemon you're like hold on lululemon collaborating with Topic we got we got the whole mall represented here right you got a Jack you got Jack Skellington Lululemon yoga

pants okay you got something going on another thing that was really funny from this interview too is like there's this moment where he's talking about his inspiration like in how he's in a model he's playing Dracula in a fucking comedy horror okay and when he was talking about his research for this role,

this is what he was saying. He's such an artist. The key I think is movement. I saw a movie called malignant and the director, James Wan and the actress Annabelle Wallace created this choreography that was terrifying. So I'm hoping to do something like that where Dracula can either glide or move like Sadako in Ringu. All right.

Love it. Love it. Love it that he cites Sadako in Ringu and not, you know, the ring. Not the new wats. He goes OG. Yeah. Again, goth. Very goth.

Right. Yeah. I fuck it. So he's an icon, y'all. Who would have thought? I look forward to seeing what movements Nicolas Cage has come up with. If he did it by himself or if he got a movement coach to help guide him. This sounds like it's going to be amazing.

I hired the Jabberwockies experts in dance and movement so I could glide. Watch, he's like getting this sick ass vibe though. Like he's dancing. Like as Dracula, he's like really glide sick ass glide though. Like he's dancing. Like as Dracula, he's like really glide stepping. That might be actually something. I'm all for it. You know, I would, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there.

Just the same as I'm going to be there next Friday. When that movie where they throw aliens, throw the moon at earth. Yeah. Oh, day one. Day one. So excited about that that's that level of commitment from me nicholas cage dracula aliens throwing the moon at the earth day one i'm gonna be there for that and you gotta respect the man's like movie choices recently like he was

spider-man noir and into the spider-verse instantly iconic for the kids way to like just welcome yourself to that generation then he did primal which was horrifyingly like gruesome and amazing and then pig which i haven't seen yet but the reviews are out of this world so pig is great yeah yeah check out color out of space another nicholas cage recent movie it's his it's his um removing the rampant racism but yet still doing hp lovecraft type thing i mean he's got i mean he's he is versatile you know he's been in a coen brothers film he's won an academy award he's got like you know he's no slouch with it but he just sort of became a meme over the years because he's had some memeable performances and you can't blame him for that and also i guess i guess it is kind of goth to like be like deny that you're part of a really dynastic famous family and be like that's

not me i'm nicholas cage ignore my driver's license where it says nicholas coppola fame fame is the cage therefore i am nicholas cage i'll say even the name choice of cage is uh it's pretty good pretty good oh wow wow yeah okay i'm glad i got some we got to drill that down because yeah uh nicholas cage come out with some like a goth wine i'm sure people will hell yeah we'll be like what the fuck is this and then some people like you know what it's legit that's right and then lastly i just want to touch on this Canadian trucker convoy. I don't know if y'all have seen the images of like Canadian truckers who are like,

you know, moving along in this very, they say thousands of trucks, long convoy to protest the vaccine mandates. They call it the freedom convoy. Oh God. Yeah, exactly.

And it started in Alberta, Canada and has made its way across the country. And it started in Alberta, Canada, and has made its way across the country. And it ended on Friday, I believe, in Ottawa. And this has been a thing that the right wing media has really like latched on to because they like the idea that there are also, you know, ignorant people who are anti science in Canada as well. That's like, hey, look what's going on here. Donald Trump Jr. even like posted about it and was saying like that this is a genius idea like as he was i guess in between doing bumps of cocaine or something but it i guess it was because they're standing up for medical freedom

elon musk even tweeted that canadian truckers rule uh following followed by a tweet that said that cb radios are free from government and media, like as if to like underline their cred. But I would just check the FCC website about that because there is something, the mobility division. Never mind. Don't worry about it. Yeah, they're not controlled. Just because you can scream shit out on anything you want on a CB radio doesn't mean that it's not regulated on some level.

And, you know, again, the American media has been especially the right wing media has been like amplifying this shit and the whole like fake narrative around it. Fox News, they're like, we got to get we got to get a Canadian person's take on that. They basically were just figured, I guess, all hockey players are probably Canadian, like and politicians. So they interviewed this former player, Theo Fleury, who claimed who's also like a covid conspiracist. So he's perfect for this. He claimed the Ottawa protest would drop 50,000 trucks and 1.4 million people, which doesn't track considering that about a half million more people like that's that's about a half

million more people than the entire population of Ottawa. But go off. You know what I mean? I get it. Y'all got support. Tucker Carlson even had a whole segment saying that there's thousands of trucks, you know, moving along the this this whole convoy. And some have said that this is a Guinness World Record breaking truck convoy and that it's 50 000 trucks well a few people who are near it did some counting estimates are closer to the hundreds not the thousands or tens of thousands as they need because it's also about lying about how big your movement is and even though the 50 000 number was like snopes was like nope on that uh and other people like even local police departments were like actually counting and posting how many trucks and vehicles were part of

it even number one asshole joe rogan was even saying like he's like oh man like look they got 50 000 like the country is in revolt but most truckers in canada are like this is such a small pot like portion of our entire workforce, considering that between 85 and 90% of truckers are fully vaccinated in Canada. It stands to reason. What is this? And the deep,

really stupid irony of it, of course it is just a fundraising campaign for neo-Nazis like that. Because everything is these days. Everything is a fundraising campaign for neo-Nazis. Oh yeah, there's always money involved. There's no real activism involved. Right. It's always money. But like their their complaint is, is that the Canadian truckers have to show a vaccine proof of vaccination to enter the United States. And and back again, but like the United States also has that requirement. Right. So it's not like if Canada stopped it,

they still wouldn't have to show a vaccine. Because when they get to America, they have to show a vaccine. Mm-hmm. Yep. So it's literally protesting nothing. Okay, but... No, no, no.

You're saying too much real stuff out loud. Okay, that's the cover. Because as you said, it is just a neo-Nazi parade. Crowds of these supporters that have been cheering, they're like waving Proud Boy flags like they're going off to war or some shit. Other people like who have just like anecdotally snapped pictures of people in the convoy like in Ottawa. They were flying like Confederate flags off of their trucks. And, you know, a lot of like there's an extreme right neo-Nazi group was like urging the protest to, quote, turn this into Canada's very own January 6th.

And it's not just the random supporters. The convoy itself has been organized and managed by people with connections to these like extremist groups like the Yellow Vests. They're a right wing group that wants like Western Canada to separate separate from the western like the west the rest of the country and they fucking have raised over six million dollars on go fund me yeah yeah of course they did luckily there's too many questions about they're like who is how are y'all using this they're like it's for food and lodging they're like six million dollars fam we'd like so yeah go fund me they're like we'll release a million of it but if you're looking for the other five you actually need to show like where this money's going because it looks and stinks like a nazi grift which ding ding ding uh it seems like it is but the other thing is that the person

who launched this whole campaign is not even a trucker. She was part of this group called Wexit that was essentially saying they wanted Western Canada to join Donald Trump's America. And of course, everybody's just loving, loving the proximity. Famously conservative Vancouver, Canada. Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly. One of the last places to legalize cannabis on Earth. Yes. Mm hmm. It's again, this is all part of, you know, this like they're finding their they're finding their kindred spirits across the border and saying, yes, maybe we can we can do something

here and make our both of our countries even worse. But yeah, it's just wild to see that this is like a fundraising thing for a growing alt-right movement in Canada. I just want these guys to stop over-promising. Like, a couple hundred is a good number, y'all. You do not have to be out here saying thousands showed up. They're going to be proved every... Like, you're obviously going to be proven wrong because there's people out there. That's all they do for a living.

They're like, what were the numbers for this event? It's important to track. Other than that, like, I don't know. It having seen a many a parade with the confederate flag waving i'm just glad we've entered an era officially where we can be like you know that flag is just straight up race it's just like we've removed it off we've removed it off the state flags now so you know we lost the war pretty officially hopefully we can all just move on and just acknowledge what is happening and be like, no, that's just Nazis doing their Nazi thing. Hey, but not my car, General Lee. There you go.

This time I was doing stand up in Pennsylvania, Union State, central Pennsylvania, Allegheny Mountains. I was on this. I was opening for a conservative comedian comedian i don't know how my life got to this point oh my god i am i i am a i'm a very leftist trans woman stand-up comedian originally got started in brooklyn now i live in la somehow or other i got hooked i got connected with this guy he wanted an opener. And somehow I got picked. He was fine. He was more of like a Long Island conservative.

Just a little bit of an asshole. But didn't hate people. Yeah, like a diet racist. Exactly. But we go and we do this show at a bar in Allegheny, Pennsylvania. And there's a Confederate flag in the bar. And I get up and I'm like, guys, what's the Confederate flag? Hey, y'all know

what this place was back then? This is Pennsylvania, right? Yeah. This didn't exist there. They love their kids. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly

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