The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 212 (Best of 2/7/22-2/11/22)

Episode Date: February 13, 2022

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So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome back to the show, Molly Lambert! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Wow, that was the most, that was like a wrestling intro. I know, I actually like, I usually have better mic discipline, but I actually like peaked my audio. I spiked my audio on that. Apology to listeners and producer Justin. Let's get ready to podcast.

Let's get ready to. Yeah, I am angling to become the next Michael Buffer. That is sort of the long term plan. I think you'd be great at it. Thank you. I am also, it's a little too hot for me, guys. A little too hot for old Molly. But this is definitely, this is the part of the year where

it's like you switch on the heat in the morning and then you switch on the air conditioning at night. Yeah. I like to keep them both going at the same time. Oh, just like Richard Nixon. Just one room. Yeah, you can just hop back and forth. Are you Richard Nixon? Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, exactly. He like to... He liked to turn the air conditioning on so cold that he would be able to use the fireplace in the White House. I get it. Okay, so Tricky Dicky's not incorrect there. I'm absolutely a person like the heat is on. Let me also

turn on a fan to really oscillate this air around. I know. I also forget it's like it gets stuffy when you turn the heat on it gets cold when you turn the cool basically i can never be comfortable yeah the truth yes it's not great that he did that or that i do uh that i keep them both blowing at the same time just to you know keep feel alive hey you know what global warming not your responsibility not your responsibility. Not my responsibility.

Individual people, not going to be able to stop it. Exactly. That's why I always say that. I'm always like, guys, it's the corporations because I want you to stop looking at me for having my air conditioning on full blast with the windows all the way down. You're like, guys, that's the corporations and you flip on 5,000 lights in your house.

I just need a lot of light. He did share my sweatiness. We're both very sweaty people. I would have lost that debate to JFK as well because, yeah, I tend to get sweaty all over my body in stressful situations and sweat through entire multi-layers of clothing. JFK was probably just flying on those B vitamins.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he was so high. His entire presidency. He was so high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an underrated fact. I feel like America loves a sweaty man. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're very slippery, which can come in handy or be gross and sweat through your couch. That's going to come in handy when you're playing football in the big game. The big game, yeah. Last night you will have heard Super Producer Ana Hosnia and I at Radio Row, trending episode. We have not gone there yet. A little peek behind the curtain of the weird way we do this show.

A little time travel for you. A little time travel for you. A little time travel. But I can only assume it's going to be amazing. And yeah, me and the NFL, we just like vibe. You know, I've just always felt like. I'm a visitor from the future and I already heard it. And I was like, oh, this is amazing. Wow.

Oh, I do like the NFL. What is something from your search history? I went, you know, because just like you guys, like we're, you know, like if you're researching a bit or you're putting a show together, sometimes my search history will be dominated by that. Like mine and Rory Scoble and I have a podcast called Pen Pals where people send us letters. And so yesterday I was trying to figure out what somebody meant, like what they were referencing. So that took over a lot of it, but I wanted to go with something that was personal for my own.

And it was something I saw on Tik TOK. And then I wanted to research to see if I could buy it. It is called the mega horn XL TP. So it's a TP also, AKA I wouldn't have called it TP. It looks like a tent to me, but it has a like port for like a chimney pipe. And then you can also buy like a wood burning little like stove and heater to put into it. It's meant to go into this. I've just, in the last like year and a half, I've just become obsessed with camping

and outdoor accommodations. Is that the right word? Just things to use and have to make your outdoor experience even better. I went down a big rabbit hole after I started watching the show Alone. Have you guys seen Alone? No.

I have heard many podcasters talk about alone but i am somewhat reality tv averse but that one sounds like it should be on my list of ones to check it's more of a docu-series than it is reality tv it's just people living outside in alone crazy remote areas and it it shows me everything i don't know how to do. Like I would never survive. And so I think that's why I'm obsessive. It's like, man, they know how to build a shelter. I have no idea how to do any of that.

So would you ever do it though? Like for a week? Yes. Rory and I are doing a like outdoor wilderness training, like three day or five day thing. We have not found the dates yet. I feel like it's more of a warm weather thing I'd like to do.

I'm just always happy when his wife gets a break. When Rory's wife gets a break. Yeah, Jordan. She's a mess. So we're going to go do it and I'm going to hopefully learn some stuff. Like do either one of you know how to make a fire? I know how to make a fire. know how to make a fire are you kidding me we got a fire pit but like getting me out give me a

fire pit a lighter uh a couple editions of new york times to use as like kindling and then some very dry firewood like you can't have been outside in the moisture for at least a couple years and then i might even that to start a fire. But even that, are you going with the triangular structure or you do a log cabin when you build a fire? I do triangular structure. Just lean a couple things against each other. I tend to do that too.

Yeah. The log cabin lasts you a lot longer. Yeah. Get me a finger so I can go, hey, you, can you light this fire for me? Right, right. I'm not. That's the only tool you need? Yeah. Hey, you. Right you light this fire for me? Right, right. I'm not. That's the only tool you need? Yeah.

Hey, you. Right. So I love it. So that's what I recently searched was the Megahorn XL. That sounds cool. It is. It looks so cool. I'm trying to make myself sound all outdoorsy and MacGyver-ish, but I did leave out the main ingredient, which is a gas can.

It needs to be full. Like, it can't be halfway full i've found i need i need all the gas is a so the the wood burning stove is that something you're kind of toting out there into the middle of the wilderness with yourself it's very compact i wonder if how much you have to assemble it that's right too it's like that might be the hardest part of. For somebody who doesn't do it, camping is knowing everything you need to bring and then packing it to be able to carry it, because what you drive somewhere, ideally, right, Like on that show alone, they're allowed to take one personal photo and then 10 survival items and that's it. So they know exactly what they're going to do. That's why they're building shelter and starting fires and stuff like that.

So would you know what your 10 items would be? I have no idea. I mean, I think you'd want like a water. They have those water filter things that you can like pour in. Like it's a jug, self-contained water filter. I think that's probably key. And then they have those little, I'm saying this wrong because I don't even know, like a flint stick things that like start the fire for you. Yeah.

Because they haven't heard of light. Water and heat. Right. Key. Right. And then I've learned from watching the show, they have things that are, they look like they're also saws i think that's crucial and then fishing line i think i because i'm not good at hunting right or cleaning like an animal like but but you think you'd be able to just have loose fishing line and just like catch something with it just like garrison a fish they'll create yeah or they'll they'll

weave a gill net and then drop that in and then pull the gill in that in each day i know exactly what that is that's cool yeah so i don't know what did i say five things yeah i'm halfway there how many how many of the people end up eating that personal photo is that because i feel like i would all of them i think that's day one and i i've heard that it tends to be the people who have the most body mass tend to win every time that's a critique i've heard of alone is that i believe that i would people yeah dude i went on a juice cleanse that was it was a three-day. It was my first one. And I did it in two and a half days because I know myself. And within a day, I was like, I think I'm killing myself. I think I'm dying.

I'm too thin to be doing that type of shit. But I had to for health reasons. And, yeah, I can't imagine. I would pass out. Right. Even after two and a half days, did you feel cleansed? Like, I've never done one. You know what? I had very healthy poops. That's what I had. I had very, like, when it was like

back when I was a teenager, my poops were very healthy and that's how they were. So, sorry, I don't mean to talk about, make anybody uncomfortable about poops, but I'm sure you guys saw there's a company that's encouraging people to a bidet company that's encouraging people to post pictures of their poop after the Super Bowl. Did you guys see that? Yeah. Tushy's doing this. Bowel Monday. Super Bowel Monday.

Yeah. Super Bowel Monday. That's what they're calling it. All right. Yeah. And they're giving away like $10,000 to the best. Yeah. The best poop. I'm000 to the best. Yeah.

So maybe if you still got just enough time to go on this juice cleanse and then create your biggest dump of your life and win the 10K. Shout out to me. Is it the are they judging based on size formation? I couldn't tell you what the fuck they're judging on this. Yeah. Yeah. Like, are they if you win, like, like, you got to be dropping boas. Is that what you got to be? boas is that what you you got to be i've i'm tempted to try i'm not gonna lie i've spoken before on this podcast about my now

70 year old dad and how he he grew up as one of eight in philly and he and his older brother it was like a way to brag that like they had to eat well they would save like their biggest poops in a shoebox and like you know yeah and show them to each other i mean that that gives you a sense of what the you know what eight kids living together smelled like is that it like that wasn't noticeable like people people weren't like what the fuck is happening the second they walked in the front door that's wild yeah that gives us a sense of uh your trauma jack because i just learned a little piece about you and your family history yeah that tells me a little bit about you that i didn't know before yeah it was very awkward when i was a teenager and i went into his closet

and it was just shoe boxes. It was like the end of the prestige, but just shoe boxes and shoe boxes of poops. But they were all very impressive and well-formed. So he's been training for this Super Bowl Monday. Tell him. Please tell him. Have him submit. Daniel, what was the name of the thing you searched? Megahorn XLTP. What was the name of the thing you searched? Megahorn XLTP. Yeah. I think it's like an eight person.

I wouldn't need that big. Give me a three or a four. There you go. Yeah. Oh, wow. But maybe you want it big because you do have a fire going inside your tent. You never know who's going to stop by. Wait, can you do a fire inside the tent? Is that a thing?

Depending on how you set your tent up or your shelter a lot of people do it on alone like their fire is inside their living space and that's gone very awry for a few people on the show just a few yeah but i would think if you were going to have you would want a big size teepee or tent if if you have a even a wood fire you know contained wood fire burning like stove with a pipe coming out the top you'd still want to be able to have some distance from that i think yeah yeah i thought the one of the ideas behind the tp was that you could have a fire in there and the smoke would go out through the top yes but yeah like uh what are those called malms those like mid-century fireplaces that people go absolutely nuts for that are ridiculously expensive you've seen them it's like a like it looks like a little portable

fireplace with a pipe going straight out right right yeah i have a that's what i was picturing when you were talking about like a portable fireplace just like you know this is like so you have the fire in like a looks like a little microwave the wood burning fire and then and then it's a metal plate on top of it to serve as a hot plate for cooking things while you're in your teepee. Or you could just have a hot plate. Fram, what's something you think is overrated? I was noodling on that. I really couldn't think of anything this morning that was overrated, except for urinals.

I just, I think that urinals are an unfinished idea. I don't really know why we use them. I don't, when you go to pee in a urinal, it splashes back on your pants, bro. Like it's totally gross. It only saves you a few seconds of time. But like, I think that like efficiency culture and like how we've like been taught to like make the most out of like every second is like so asinine and it's so much more relaxing to just sit on the toilet and piss just just piss sitting down you know what i mean

yeah now listen i'm i'm with you fran on the on the p and sitting down. I am an advocate. If I'm at the crib, my ass cheeks hitting the toilet seat as much as they possibly can. But if I'm in the public. That's just general politics. That's just general politics. But if I'm in the public, everybody else peeing on that toilet seat. I don't know if I'm trying to sit on every, which look is male privilege because we don't have to sit down on every toilet seat when we use the restroom. But I do agree with you. Urinals are...

An unfinished idea. It's true. It's true. They never... Honestly... They just like put it... They came up with the idea in theory and then put it in every restroom around the world and never took another look at it if you had never heard of it before and someone said you're gonna piss on this hole in the wall right next to someone else like yeah i just

would never i would never want to do that and like yeah i mean brown kid culture yeah we're taught like our moms teach us to hover over the toilet seat but like your ass is already dirty just just you know bring bring little wipes everywhere you go. You'll be fine. I'd much rather sit down. I don't know if you know this, friend, but I'm known around these parts as the cleanest ass in America. He takes so much pride in it. I take so much pride in no germs being on my cheeks.

Oh, wow. being on my cheeks oh wow i also think i also think urinals this is probably a stretch but i also think the actual urinal too is a product of just dudes being toxic a little bit like i agree because because i you're from chicago i don't know if you've ever been to wrigley field or not oh yeah but but so you know those bathrooms just used to be a big ass open bucket where everybody trough a trough right which is what i think they used to be before they became and people were just like i don't want i'm touching elbows with this person and people looking down at my junk and so they tried to separate them instead but i think a trough is even better because it's way down yeah it's basically like you're pissing on the ground. No splash back.

No splash back. No splash back. I think we should go back to all troughs. We should go back to troughs. Troughs for everything. Yes. Troughs for every bathroom experience. Yes.

Great. Yes. Awesome. We're so good at ideas. I feel like the urinal cake industry is what's keeping urinals around. Urinal cake and those plastic things that they have to put there to like. Splash guards? Doesn't remove the splash, but I guess it like cuts back on it.

Yeah. It gives me a hole to aim at. And it also, you know, makes the piss smell like, you know, like a clean piss. Right. Yeah. Which is always nice. Yeah. Wow. I love it. what a great overrated what is uh what's something you think is underrated katherine um i was thinking probably because of the news but

buying music like actually paying money and then owning a copy of the song or the album that you paid money for even if it's still just digital, like actually paying for it. People straight up make fun of me for still having iTunes, like the old version that you have to pay $1.29 a song for. And I'm like, excuse me, I'm helping artists. So you get to feel smug about it too. Yeah. Catherine, have I got an NFT offering for you?

No, I'm just kidding. This is my friend Hector Navarro, who's an iHeart host. He does the Avatar the Last Airbender series. But he is a big proponent of like, listen, you have to own DVDs. Don't let them control when

you can and cannot see a movie. Suddenly it's not on the streaming platform. Even if you buy it on the streaming platform, if they decide not to carry that in their library, your purchase just disappears into thin air. It's not on the streaming platform even if you buy it on the streaming platform if they decide not to carry that in the library your purchase just disappears into thin air it's not authentic you're until recently most spaces didn't harbor any like or most spaces didn't host any of their additional content from the dvd so the director's commentary which can be a whole wealth of like information original trailers which if you're like i love a trailer especially the evolution the 90s had trailers covered that was when we got our big

deep announcer voice guy to tell us the coming attractions but there's like a lot of important history stored on dvds his library is he he literally has a dvd library where you as a friend can come over and check out a DVD or a comic book it's the best thing ever but it's completely turned me on to being like oh I really need to have physical hard materials if I really want to like respect and value the art form so I'm totally with it it's an underrated experience to be like I'm gonna pop in this DVD and like see just what's on here like what other treasures besides the movie are sitting in here i love that i love that he like has a lending library that's adorable he's the best it's so it's so cute and then you know hector's one of those guys who can tell you then the history he's

just like a living oral history of the film too and you're like yeah like inform me buddy uh love learning so yeah definitely buy hard copies of the things you love yay yeah and the the trailers is something that i hadn't really fully thought about that was always something i'd be like why are they showing this at the beginning of a dvd like that's so annoying and now i would kill to have those old dvds that just like a random like, why is there a She's All That trailer at the beginning of this action movie? Even the old

FBI warnings, which are now classic. Early 2000s, like dodgy. You wouldn't steal a car, would you? Oh, give me all the life. It's beautiful. I wonder if you can get DVDvds like at goodwill or something like where's the best place to find them okay if you run into an old video store

there's some still lurking out there a lot of times they'll have them becca suggests half-priced books which is also a great place to get them if you happen to live near an old record store that's still operational you can get dvds in most of those spaces and then of course if you are have to go to a box store any of them will have just a giant bin of like here's just a giant thing of dvds but you can also rent uh dvds from the library right but in terms of owning it you know you just don't give it back right oh right right oh i forgot about that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was greedy libraries why don't they gonna leave us alone yeah the i i have my younger sister still big into the dvds i got her 10 for Christmas and going shopping for them was just one of the more enjoyable like media

buying experiences. I did get them at Barnes and Noble because that's just it was there. But so not at least it's not Amazon, but that's a very, very low bar. Speaking of low bars, it's like when Jon Stewart said that Joe Rogan isn't as bad as Tucker Carlson and therefore he's OK. It's like still still not great, man. Yeah, but at least you were buying physical media like you were doing things that are good. So I think cumulatively you came out ahead. Yeah. Anyways, good times had by all.

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sports world like when there's a hall of fame ballot they don't just immediately like once a person retires be like well they go into the hall of fame because you know you're too emotional and you just you don't have perspective yet and like i feel like even if it's not the academy awards that ends up doing this i do feel like a hall of fame for movies that like goes five or ten years in the future or in the past for for each year would be fun and you you wouldn't get your green books coming through yeah did the green book win green book one right green book one like two years ago or three years ago like green book one after moonlight yeah right after moonlight it was such a slap in the face.

That's right. Even though I love me some of Herschel Ali, I think he is one of the best in the industry right now. Green Book was whack. Green Book was whackity whack.

We should be, you know what, not to jump the gun here, but I do think we should be able to take nominations away. Like after a few years, after we look,

you know how they always be like Academy Award nominee. We should be able to take that damn tag away after a while. Be after we look, you know how they always be like Academy Award nominee. We should be able to take that damn tag away after a while. Be like, you know what? We thought about it. Yeah, actually it wasn't an Academy Award nominated worthy.

And if you want to keep your union card, you have to come to the ceremony where it's being taken from you and given to somebody else. Or honestly, or honestly, we should be able to give retroactive nominations to people. Absolutely. Because let me tell you,

Jennifer Hudson, J-Lo deserves one for Hustlers. Okay. I think Toni Collette needs one for Hereditary. I think a decade from now, we should give one to Gaga for House of Gucci, honestly. Yes. We're still going to be watching it. We're still going to be talking about it.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That long-ass three-hour movie we're going to watch just for Gaga. And also, and to be clear, today we understand she didn't get nominated. Like, yeah, she didn't get nominated today, but 10 years from now, once we live with this,

we're going to be like, oh, that shit was dope. Yeah, exactly. Who cares about the accent who cares which they also said about ben dick cumberbatch for they they said who cares about the accent but they still gave him an yeah his accent was terrible terrible i always say he sounds like hansber in Die Hard when he's trying to do an American accent. When he's like, oh, my name is John Gray. There are moments. It's a great performance.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have been nominated. I'm just saying, if you're going to get all picky about accents, fuck out of here. I didn't watch that movie. I didn't watch it. It looked boring as hell. It is boring as hell. It is. It's too many white people.

It is boring. Yeah, so you gotta catch Mother Good Day to watch that. You did? Yeah. I thought it was a very,

I think it would have been more successful as a short film. That's what I think. I think it was really, really gorgeous and perfectly constructed. Like,

it's masterful filmmaking, but I just think it should have been a short film. And I don't understand why... Spoiler alert, that Benedict Cumberbatch is like a closeted homosexual, and that didn't get folded into the story at all

really. I mean, kind of, but I don't know. I think there were some things about it that I didn't love. But I understand why it's Oscar bait to the max. Yeah, it's bait. It's 100% bait. Anyway, Kristen Dunst. She can hate. Yeah, but it's like

dominating the awards. They gave it to Plemons. It's Plemons just being Plemons. I love Jesse Plemons. Yeah, I do too. Everything I see him in, I enjoy. Well, not everything, but most things I see him in, I enjoy. He plays his role very well.

Also, I think it's dope that a couple got nominated. They both got nominated for the first time. He's married or dating, I don't know if they're married or not, to Kirsten Dunst. Oh, no way! Yeah, I didn't know that either. Oh, that's so sweet. Yeah, I thought that was pretty, I thought that was dope. I thought that was pretty cool to see them both be excited about getting nominated

for the first time and it's definitely a performance where you're not like oh they're definitely fucking like when you're watching it it does it does not scan that way at all uh but that's it's that's a good good performance but anyways, I want to talk briefly for my selfish theory that we should be talking about movies five years ago. So this is the one where they got the best picture right. Moonlight won. But I feel like there are lesser fuck-ups kind of all over the place. So Molly Shannon and other people.

Have you guys seen other people? I love that movie. And she's so good in it. It's funny. And wasn't even nominated for best supporting actress, which Viola Davis won for, but she was the best actress. Like she was straight up like all over that movie.

She was definitely the lead in Fences. So like, yeah, put her in the lead actress category. I agree. And that's who wins Best Actress instead of... Oh, she gamed the system that year. She was like, you know what?

I might win Best Actress, but I'm definitely going to award it. That's it. The Academy actually, she knew that they just needed to take out three of her lines and then she would qualify for supporting. She's like, could just needed to take out three of her lines and then she would qualify for supporting. And she's like, could you please just edit out three of my lines? Yeah.

God. Yeah. So Chris Kelly, I thought, should have been nominated for Other People, who is the co-creator and co-writer of The Other Two, which is one of the best, I say, underrated shows of the past couple of years. Agreed. one of the best, I say underrated shows of the past couple of years. Agreed. Hacksaw Ridge is, this is the year that everybody was like, let's let Mel Gibson off the hook and give him a fucking Oscar nomination.

He got nominated that year? Feels like every year, honestly. He was like all over the place. What the fuck? It's very weird too because like that was the, I generally watch the Oscars, but the reason I'm so like, I don't know much about this one is that's the one i didn't watch and i was in a bar when the best picture nominee went down for this and like everybody like tuned in and was like la la land one and then everybody just went back to their drinks and then like two minutes later like we were hearing commotion it was like yo but yeah i don't i don't need mel gibson uh nominated for best director which

was like a surprise at the time people weren't like this is the best directed movie it's just you know mel gibson blowing people up and making gross shit happen to human bodies loving by jeff nichols i feel like jeff nichols just in, really good director who hasn't been nominated. So I have a wild card for both five years ago and this year. For a supporting actor, Ralph Fiennes in Hail Caesar was just like an unforgettable scene for me. Like that scene just like sticks in my head. Just everything about his performance. He's only in it for like a couple scenes right like but i don't know if that needs a separate category or if we just have like a best scene best best best cameo that's a dope ass that's a dope

because cameos are becoming especially you know with the Marvel movie forefront. Industrial complex. Yeah, in the past 15 years. Cameos are it. There should be an award for did the most with the least. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I would love that.

Like, I think this year's example is Bradley Cooper in Licorice Pizza. Like, is only on screen for, like minutes but is just so like i yeah he just takes over the movie and oh yeah and he's playing barbara streisand's husband like a real hollywood producer who's like a monster and it's a real like it's just watching like a force of nature like passes through this movie that's, like, somewhat unrelated. But you can't stop thinking about it, even when he's not on screen. I kept waiting for him to come back. I'm never going to watch that movie, but I almost did because the trailer convinced me that it was some sort of Barbra Streisand, like, you know, coming-of-age biopic.

Because I i didn't obviously didn't perform even a cursory google and i was like oh i would see that and then you know i googled and i was like wait this is about an adult woman who wants to fuck a teen like wants to like date a teen and the whole premise is that there is i just like don't i was like i'm gonna pass on that one but cute name and i love him love him it'll be a cold day in hell before i watch licorice pizza cold day i'll watch roots again before i watch licorice pizza the the i i think licorice pizza should like that that's the one that made me think we should have a best trailer

category because the trailer for that first of all i didn't realize until i like listened to life on mars like in its entirety that basically life on mars is the plot of the movie for the most part like he just listened to life on mars and then wrote a movie and it's it's just a great trailer that like that movie nor most movies is able to live up to but i think a best trailer would be a fun category and you would get to watch it while you're watching the broadcast i i love that i love best trailer because they're they actually do need to bring a couple more categories because there's always like three days of the Oscars. There's the two that we don't see where they give all the awards that they know don't nobody want to fucking see.

And then they have the actual ceremony. I would love a trailer category, but trailers got to go back to what they was in the 90s. You need a voiceover. You need the voiceover. You need the voiceover. You need... Best performance by a voiceover trailer. Yeah.

Yeah. If we... Okay, so if we were to offer nominations for best trailer, I would say Across the Universe. Do you remember that Beatles movie? Yeah. It's just one long music video, terrible movie, but, like, an amazing trailer.

So, like, such an exciting conceit for a movie, even though it's like so average. But I also have to say, if we were to offer a did the most with the least, Drew Barrymore should have a nom for Scream. Because that is one of the most phenomenal things she's ever done in her acting career. Period. Yes. I just saw the new Scream like a week, last week or something and the person I went with, I guess forgot.

Because I thought, I don't want to spoil it, but I thought they were going to do the same thing in the beginning of the movie. I guess that is a spoiler. Who gives a fuck? If you haven't seen Scream, it's the beginning. I thought they were going to do the same thing and they was like, well, no, she's a star. And I was like, well, Drew Barrymore was a star.

When she got murked in the first five minutes of that movie. And that shit was like revolutionary because especially in our age, we weren't used to that. Like we weren't used to stars getting killed in the first. We still aren't. Like I remember when the other guys did it with The Rock and Sam Jackson. And it was so funny because you thought they were going to be in the whole we still aren't like i remember when the other guys did it with the rock and sam jackson and it was so funny because you thought they were going to be in the whole like it's such a really good trope that doesn't get used often but the people who who it does get used with generally are fantastic in those like three to five minutes there in the movie did you

think it was going to do the same thing because it has the exact same title as the previous movie it has the exact same title and it starts pretty much exactly the same yeah it starts it was great though i did love the new scream i thought it was fun i think a lot of work could be done in the best original song category from five years ago. La La Land had two songs nominated. Moana had one. Didn't even sniff the award. And You're Welcome. They gave up the opportunity. I have a three-year-old and a five-year-old.

I listen to a lot of Moana soundtrack. But You're Welcome is a fucking jam. It really holds up. And they could have had The Rock rapping had the rock yeah rapping at the oscars like that's how you get people to watch the oscars is like i don't know and then there's like some visual effects stuff like jungle book one for that i feel like in retrospect with

the live action lion king under our belt we recognize that maybe that's not the path for movies to head down as much but i don't know and then i think like a new category that would be fun is like in camera special effects like if you if you got to if you just did like the best like practical special effect and then they like showed you how it was done in the category like during the show that That would be fun. But yeah. I have to say, how is this? I mean, when you're talking about soundtrack, how is this Beyonce's first Oscar nom? Right.

What? I thought she was halfway to an EGOT already. I'm so confused. But yeah, I also feel like Encanto was one of my favorite movies, but the music was not good. Yeah, the music wasn't great. I don't remember any of the songs. If they were to nominate a song, it should have been We Don't Talk About Bruno, which is now like a TikTok sensation. But yeah, I agree. There's a lot of, you know, retroactive work to be done in this category.

The music one is a tough one for me because i it's very weird like all right so you know if we go back in the five years most categories should have i think most categories should have more nominees it shouldn't be kept to five because you know obviously you're you're going to get snubs. That's how it is and everything. But some of the snubs are just outlandish, which is wild. So I think you should just have like seven to ten like they did for The Best Picture when The Dark Knight didn't, you know, get nominated. And that's why they changed that category up. change that category up but for the actual songs we should 100 go back and take away like the oscar nomination for some songs because like some of them songs don't hit man some of those songs don't hit no more some of those songs don't hit they don't they don't matter but some songs do hit

like the bruno like that shit's gonna hit it's gonna be popular in two years you mean to tell me that's not a oscar worthy what else we ain't going to the movies to listen to songs so if a song hits and it stays popular that's an oscar that's a fucking oscar there you go yeah yeah and then my this is a controversial opinion that i don't even know if i believe him but so if they want to like really get these like movies that everybody saw involved what about a separate category that's not best picture it's just best movie like okay kind of having a separate sort of category that's just like all right this isn't necessarily art but it's like the most fun people had at the movies so just just looking at 2016, you had Finding Dory, Zootopia, The Force Awakens,

Moana, Arrival, Captain America, Civil War, Deadpool. Like those are all pretty iconic movies. Like, so I don't know. I'm shocked that Arrival wasn't nominated. That's crazy. I love that the rest of them are children's movies though. You really are. You really are.

You have kids. We get it. We got to Jack. We got to jack i i mean i love that the only thing is it would only be marvel movies and right especially now they're making yeah i know they're making so many a year too would be like so many marvel i mean but i mean the spider-man movie was my favorite movie of the year, period. More than any of these noms. I tweeted this today, actually. And I generally don't like to have debates with internet strangers about my opinions or theirs, because I don't give a fuck. But I wrote that if Don't Look Up was nominated, then Spider-Man No Way Home should have been nominated.

Because that movie not only did I like Don't Look Up. I'm not shitting on the movie, but I thought Spider-Man No Way Home was a better movie almost in every way. The story was better. The action was better. I had more fun in the movie. The acting was better. The acting was better. The fan service.

In every way, that movie was better. The script was better. The acting was better. The fan service. In every way, that movie was better. The script was better. The script was good. And let me tell you, don't look up that tepid Netflix algorithm generated. Yeah. The function of that movie was nothing but performance on Netflix's streaming service. It was so transparently, like, I don't know. It took me, I'll just say this,

it took me three sittings to finish that movie because I kept getting up and being like, I don't really know what I'm watching. I don't know what the appeal of this is outside of the fact that it's had so many stars. I thought Cate Blanchett was awesome. I thought actually Jonah Hill was really fun. But the movie in general, I was just like, I totally agree with you.

I was like, I don't understand why this is nominated. I mean, actually, I do. It's because, you know, the devil works hard, but Netflix's publicists work harder. And they will get Emily in Paris all of the awards. They can do that for Don't Look Up 2, let me tell you. Well, it sounds to me like you are both climate deniers climate change deniers oh yeah absolutely unless you thought it was the best movie of the year you just don't understand the message and you hate the environment hey man i don't see no comments

coming near the i'm good over here talking about can i say one more controversial thing about five years ago those oscars first of all let me preface it because, again, people on the Internet are dumb and they don't read context. Moonlight should have won. Should have won. But it was only after that debacle where people start acting like La La Land wasn't a good movie. I had a good time watching La La Land. Like, it was OK. It was a great movie.

I'm not saying it was not a Best Picture nominated, but I think after that was over, hive mind of social media kind of, like, dictated, oh, and now we also hate La La Land. Like, y'all motherfuckers was up here tap dancing in the streets and singing all the songs and shit before the Oscars came out with that

movie. Y'all liked it. It was okay. I think the hate that La La land got for that fuck up after the fact it's a little it's a little whack it's a little whack in my opinion it's honestly just wrong time wrong place for that yeah it was just it's a stunning movie a stunning movie about a guy who you know likes to mansplain jazz to an aspiring actress exactly as most movies are about that um yeah and i felt like you know it was it was it was gorgeous um but yeah wrong time wrong place and the culture wars of that year all right since you guys called me up for being kid movie

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And yeah, I do a daily news show. I definitely talked about them. There's probably hours of me talking about these Olympics. I don't remember them at all. Anyways, there's more Olympics starting right now. I remember one thing that, and I don't remember what country it was in. I don't even know what, I don't know anything about the Olympics. But I know that whatever country it was taking place in, there was a person competing that was from the country.

And there was no one in the arena to cheer for them. And I just thought, you work your entire life to make the Olympics. You're the hometown hero, and no one can cheer for you. It's so sad. It's a hollow experience. Yeah. We must stop until we can have them safely. Bananas.

Yeah. I mean, it's so sad. It's like, I made the Olympics and it's like a pep rally with no one to cheer. What's the point? Right. You just run through that piece of paper yeah there's just no one there just an echo of the sound of paper tearing yeah so one of the things that sounds like all three of us missed is that a german pentathlon coach literally punched a horse no yeah so that

which i didn't know there was a horse riding portion of the pentathlon is that the one that where you shoot guns too are there guns involved in the pentathlon listen i'm not an athlete i have no idea what a pentathlon is i wonder why one man punching a horse canceled an entire event though that's really okay we're looking it up what is a contest featuring five events it is the one where you shoot the gun okay does it involve punching at all or does this guy he just got upset so lest you judge i think the puncher was a woman it was kim raciner punched a horse ahead of the women's competition in august so like apparently yeah there's it's horse riding gun shooting what else like running

standing long jump discus throw okay greco-roman wrestling but that was from the 1906 versions horses can be aggressive what was what led to the punch so competitors could not meet their horses until shortly before the horse riding portion of the competition began i i don't know if that was covid related i don't know why they couldn't meet or if they normally can. But several riders struggled with their horses. One such rider was Germany's Annika Schluh. And her coach tried to talk some sense into the horse by punching it in the face and did not work. The horse refused to jump. And so they decided to cancel that event from the pentathlon and are now talking about what they're going to replace it with. To be fair, it has to be an unfamiliar horse. So you are riding a horse you have no experience riding.

I don't, that's not me condoning violence against horses. Okay. I don't think punching the horse would do literally anything except make the horse mad and possibly buck your rider. Like, what was the point of it? But I am now fascinated that this has not become like a social media thing because it requires fencing, pistol shooting, freestyle swimming, show jumping on an unfamiliar horse, and then a cross-country run. I need to know who has mastered all of these things enough to take it to the Olympics. I want to know what their daily life is like because i imagine you can never stop training like regular olympians like if you're just doing like the hurdles you're practicing hurdles every damn day hours a day getting that

hurdle right but you have to do five this is this is so much it feels like the olympic event version of like those guinness world records where the person just like made some shit up to do that would like that they could do because they were the only one who thought to do it. Maybe someone couldn't win each individual event and they were like, you know what? But I'll challenge you to all of them. I'll challenge you to all of them. Grab bag, grab bag it up so according to a recent instagram post by the international modern pentathlon union athletes committee some of the sports that they're considering to replace the horse jumping show jumping on a unfamiliar

horse which does seem wildly specific are less specific things like roller skating, which I kind of like. I don't know if it would be a roller skating race or like a roller skating just like dance off. Bike riding. Also, drone racing. No, that's too far in the field. I don't like that.

Olympics should be about physical strength. Only if they ride the drum. Only if they can drive the drum. Yes, there. There it is. physical strength. Only if they ride the drone. Only if they can drive the road. If you just ride into the Olympic, whatever, opening ceremonies being like propelled by drones, that would be cool. And then finally, pillow fighting, which people, some pentathletes were even like, wait, is that last one a joke? But apparently not. Pillow fighting is being considered a legitimate sport now. And there's a league and everything.

They just had the first pillow fight championships last weekend in Florida. So you know it's legit. The pay-per-view event reportedly featured hardcore swinging with a specialized pillow. with a specialized pillow. And people who competed were MMA fighters, reality TV stars, bare knuckle boxers, mechanics,

single moms, and veterinarians. Okay. I see what's going on here. Trying to take out some COVID aggression. Yeah. One, a great way to take out some COVID aggression. Two, this is absolutely someone thinking about ratings,

right? The one thing I do remember about Tokyo is that they added skateboarding. X Games gets tons of views every year. It's very exciting. It's an established sport, easy to get enough competitors in there. I wonder if, I guess because it's one of five events in a smaller category that you could probably train. Oh my God, training for a pillow fight. that you could probably train oh my god training for a pillow fight but you could probably get enough athletes to be like okay if that's the thing like let's go i want my olympic medal what i have to say is do they have to wear these uniforms now if you can't see the picture but i'll just describe it looks like a terry cloth 1920s bathing suit yeah and that's it that's what it looks like and then their pillows are like maybe silk cased you guys if you remember the like rock them not rock them robots what are those pillow hand fist things they were inflatable sock and boppers thank you

sock and boppers that's what but in pillow form is what it looks like. I don't know what a sock-em-bopper is. I like that in the list of people they included mechanics. That's just funny to me. I don't know why, but they were like MMA fighters, bare-knuckle boxers, mechanics. Veterinarians. All the same kind of people. Single moms. Anyone can do it.

Anyone can get punched by a bare knuckle boxer you know yeah maybe the veterinarians thing was like a play two horses to be like this one's gonna be so much easier for you guys than that last one but yeah the mechanics is confusing like riding a bike it does seem like the equivalent of like maybe if there was bike jumping, like you had to like jump a bike because it's like a horse that you can't punch or people won't get mad if you punch a bike, I guess. But this like adding a combat sport that like presumably no pentathlete has ever attempted is actually kind of fun. I'm I was about to criticize it and then i realized that they should do that every olympics there should be a wild card fifth event that you can just like guarantee nobody has any experience in and throw it on on them like the day of the event and see

how the internet gets to vote and my first pitch is pirate ship battle it's a team sport oh yeah you guys got it instead of like cannons you have like paint balls but they're like giants that you put in a cannon you know so you're just getting splattered with paint because shit most covered in paint loses done yeah and then if i mean give us this level of sports paintball is a pretty good idea for an olympic sport i was gonna say if you lose then it becomes a swimming event you know there you go there you go but so pillow fighting championships have been a thing for a while in japan and the all japan pillow fighting championships were apparently inspired by pillow fights held by japanese students on school trips. They apparently have school trip money in Japan for take their kids on school trips more than once. But the rules are it's like a team sport. Sounds like

team dodgeball if you've ever played that or witnessed that. But with pillows, except it has like fun things like everybody starts in a sleeping bag like you have to like when they blow the whistle everyone's in like laying down under a comforter and then you have to like run up like jump out of bed grab a pillow start throwing it at each other and when somebody yells the teacher is coming then everybody everybody has to run back to their futon, pick up more pillows. And then there's a captain who you defend with a duvet. I'm in. Let's do it.

Is this real rules or did you just create that right now? No, that's real. In the Japanese game, that's how they play. That's a Japanese game that is established and has been for a number of years that we are choosing to turn our back on in america for some reason and just doing one there wasn't a boxing ring which is dumb boring like that's so much less exciting than like here's a literally a team event and the ability to defend in a dodgeball so that's revolutionary okay you can only defend in dodgeball if you're good at bouncing the ball off the ball

already in your hands and eventually you have to throw that ball so you know it's a temporary defense like strategy but the idea of using an entire comforter to protect your team captain chef's kiss man that we've got real game like stats in here now it brings some like bullfighting panache to it because like you could just be like the sickest with the comforter you could just be doing all sorts of wild shit imagine multiple people using comforters and now you don't know where the captain is you gotta figure it out gotta break it down your captain can be moving in secret getting ready to like nail the other team's captain this is very this is thrilling yeah it's thrilling i would absolutely watch this level of pillow fights at the olympics should be more fun

it takes itself way too seriously they're like we're gonna start in rome we're gonna run a torch around like blah blah we've seen it it's it's good it's fine it's whatever but if you really want to get spicy like bring me a paintball championship i want to see actual school level pillow fights i want to see pirate ship battles for sure just you get that one for free you don't have to pay me anything i just want the benefit of watching grown people paintball but with pirate ships is that a thing you just made up or is that a thing that exists okay all right that came whole from my brain i would invest money in it i would absolutely be a ship captain in it it's dnd but a whole like extra level of it yeah beautiful no the ancient No, the ancient, it was either Greece or Rome.

They would, like, fill up, like, stadiums with water and have, like, military ship battles in front of people. Like, that was the thing you could do. Listen, waiting to get into historical context, Jack. I'm putting that in the pitch. You guys have already done this. We're just modernizing it. There it is. I'm for it.

Let's do it. American gladiators of the Olympics with pirate ships. I love it. American gladiators is fun, and the Olympics could use some of that. I miss American gladiators. Also, the most fun I've ever had was both having a pillow fight that I was winning winning getting a lot of clean shots in and then got like knocked out clean by a pillow like that sometimes pillow fights are very violent yeah i mean i don't want to compete in it i don't want to be in the event i don't like being hit i've

been punched many times i don't want to be hit by anything yeah yeah let do it. Do a fun one guys. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like, and review the show. If you like the show, uh, means the world to miles.

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