The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 215 (Best of 2/28/22-3/4/22)

Episode Date: March 6, 2022

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. It's Erica Tamposi! Erica! Hey, hey, what's up?

What up? Did I mispronounce your last name? No. How'd we do? Okay. Yeah, no, Tamposi it is. That's great. There it is.

Crushed it. Where are you coming to us from? I'm in LA. Okay. How about you guys? Same. Same. Wow. Yeah. Look at Okay. How about you guys? Same. Same. Wow.

Yeah. Look at us. Home of the NFL champs. Yeah. The Rams. I mean, absolutely. That the city could care less about. They opened up a store at the Grove that's like Rams championship gear.

And I did see somebody walking out fully kitted up. Rammed up. Yeah. Nice. Who's your guys' teams? I had to pick one. It was probably the Raiders because when they were in L.A., I had the most familial connection to them.

And then in the 90s, I was always like a Niners or Cowboys fan because of Dion and such. Yeah. I was a Pats fan. Still am-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like from back in the Bledsoe days. And I don't know.

It's tough. I'm from New England, so I'm a diehard Masshole living in L.A. Are the Pats your team? They are. Absolutely. Yes. What part of Massachusetts are you from? Well, technically New Hampshire, but I'm like 45 minutes outside of Boston.

That's my favorite part of Massachusetts, actually. Right? That you don't live there? It's just outside of New Hampshire. It's a great place. So you guys know Boston. You're familiar with Boston. Yes.

So you're actually going to go outside of Boston and actually leave the state, and then that's where I'm from. Yeah. Is there something like, did you used to be able to get booze up there like at a younger age or was I, I remember driving up there once when I lived in Massachusetts as a teenager. The main thing with New Hampshire is no sales tax. So people from Massachusetts, like I went to UNH and Ivy school. I'm sure you guys have heard of it. Oh yeah. And the university of New Hampshire, we, there's a lot of kids from, from mass because it's,

it's short driving distance. I mean, you can get from LA to Culver city in a slower amount of time than you can from, we're talking super LA and New Hampshire specific guys. So if you're anywhere else, like just tune out. Shout out to you. Yeah. But it's just so close, but people would come up to New Hampshire to buy booze because then it's cheaper. I was a notorious tax dodge when I was a 17-year-old.

Nice. Yeah. Gotta get New Hampshire, man. I really, truly can't remember why we did that. Maybe it was because it was just cheaper and my friends were like trying to shave an edge. But anyways. Maybe you had to go look at the old man in were like trying to shave an edge. But anyways. Maybe you had to go look at the old man in the mountain. Shed a tear.

R.I.P. The beauty. Yeah. Yeah. Poor old man. My fourth grade state report was on New Hampshire. I don't know why I picked New Hampshire. I was like, nah, man, people are going for like states you heard of.

Because I'm like 10, 9. I'm like, 9 i'm like new hampshire yeah when the old man on the mountain fell it was like it was heartbreaking for the we gotta find another thing guys was that what everybody in new hampshire said they're like ah we gotta find a different like oh what now yeah and for people who don't know would you mind explaining what the old man on the mountain is? Yeah. So it was this really, really intricate rock on the side of the highway that looked like an old man. It sort of had like an Abe Lincoln nose. And from the side profile was like the old man. So people would be like, hey, you're going to New Hampshire, the old man on the mountain.

And then the rock, you know, as rocks do after years, fell off the mountain. And so the rock, not Dwayne Johnson, but the old man on the mountain, the rock has. I was so confused until right now. I figured I had to give some context. OK, so not Dwayne Johnson. Cool. What is something from your search history? Something from my search history.

This is something I searched last night. Euphoria plot synopsis. Okay. Was it a confusing plot or you just like wanted to get spoilers out of the way? I don't watch Euphoria. But every Sunday without fail, everything I see on social media just turns into references about the show that I truly know nothing about. And last night, I broke down and I finally Googled Euphoria plot synopsis. I'm not going to watch the show, but yeah, I do like to know what's going on.

It feels like one of those tweets that people do where it's like, all right, I'll bite. What's Euphoria? Oh, yeah. on it feels like one of those tweets that people do it's like all right i'll bite what's euphoria oh yeah i did that i did that whatever whenever the episode about the play i tweeted okay i'll bite what's what's a play yeah i i i saw the first season and then i haven't seen i think i've only saw like the first half of the first episode of this season. But yeah, the discourse around it on Twitter, I'm always like, huh? It doesn't seem like a very good show. I just want to say that. I mean, it seems like you have all these teens running around doing crazy shit with no consequence.

I just want to say for the record, I think that's very, like, bad, unhealthy television. If you do want to watch, much like Succession, I'm going to get a lot of people coming for me for this. But, yeah, two shows, I think, that just show shitty people doing shitty things with zero consequence. I think that's really dangerous for society and for, you know, where things are going. I think it's fine to make shows about shitty people doing shitty things but it needs to be done in a responsible manner if you want to watch a show like that i really recommend dope sick dope sick yeah michael keaton just won did he not i have no idea wait what was the thing he just won for that was a film michael what's michael

michael keaton i swear he just won a sag award for something it might be he plays a doctor that gets addicted to yeah yeah for dope sick yeah he just won a sag award yeah it's interesting like okay did you ever watch the sopranos i did not i did not like that show i tried okay is that also because you feel like it's a thing about shitty people i just thought it was really boring. Whoa. Okay. Because I'm trying to find like, you know, like, like sort of triangulate where we are because I get like succession. I think when most people who watch it, they go, why, why am I picking a evil person to get behind? Or like, that's sort of like, I think the sensation that people have when they watch

it. But I get that. Yeah. Like the consequences just seem like the doj is gonna back off and you're like oh what okay so they continue to do it and i don't know if their aim is like we get to show people how this shit really works but on the other side of that you do see people who completely miss the point they're like dude exactly be so sick to be like roman and you're like no it wouldn't yeah i i watched two episodes of euphoria and then bailed but the have followed the development of the show like paras like just via social media

and like this is a first for me where like a big twist that happened in last night's episode, like, made me feel something. I was like, oh, shit. That's, like, another show that I really enjoy but I have a lot of guilt about is, like, Snowfall, where it's just, like, violence, violence, violence. You see black people killing each other, like, pretty much nonstop for an hour. And it's just like, okay, what's the point of this? Like, what are we learning here? Yeah. an hour and it's just like okay what's the point of this like what are we learning here yeah i saw an article that was like they they tried to say that euphoria had like actually contributed to

an uptick of like young people trying to address their substance abuse but that was like that felt like one of those things that like the producers or the network network gets like something to be published you'd be like i don't know i mean that's that's the other cool part of it so yeah yeah it definitely made drugs and the first couple episodes made drugs look fun to me as like like just trying to think through the through the mind of like me when i was in high school like it was like i was i thought it was amazing if you could like score some beer for the weekend and they're just like alcohol is a given. And then they're all doing like all these creative, like multicolored, amazing drugs that make amazing special effects happen and make things all sparkly. I was like, whoa, I think that would have been hard for me to watch and not want to do every drug I could get my hand on.

Yeah. I feel like train spotting didn't quite be like, yo, man, I would try heroin. Yeah. You know, just made me try and swim in the toilet. But I tried heroin. I think half baked was like the one thing when I was like, well, this weed shit. Now this weed thing on the other hand. Yeah.

What is something you think is overrated, Becca? Oh, my gosh. OK. Contro gosh okay controversial but also a quick thing it's like i have a lot of hot takes but i don't know why i was so stumped coming over than overrated but i'm gonna put it out there bars i think bars are overrated especially post-covid you know i don't want to be crammed up in a room with a bunch of people I don't know breathing their air to drink $20 cocktails. Why? You know, I don't like to drink that much. I really just enjoy intimate friend time. And I would rather have like eight people over sharing some like snacks and bottles of wine.

My friend Viv always loves the host. She always has people over like every other weekend i swear i go over there and we all just like hang out we drink wine we have snacks and it's like such a lovely time and i we will viv is quite a host so she will like either get stuff from like the chinese market we'll have like a hot pot day one day we did, you know, usually just like some cheeses, some meats, popcorn. Are the bars, what's the bar situation in New York now? Is it fully back to mask off, do your thing? We're back. Yeah. It's 2019. I mean, I know that technically the policy is that you don't need vaccine cards anymore to get into places but

i still haven't like every time i've gone i've still had to like use my vaccine card so they're still like requiring at most places because it is like up to you but like legally they don't have to anymore a lot of them are still requiring vaccine cards but it's just like new york's a small place or i mean it's a big place but like this the spacing is you're on top of each other so it's just like what's the point and like going, yeah, we're all vaccinated, but the second we get in, masks off or drinking, we're on top of each other. It's hot and sweaty, and then it's cold outside. And I'd rather just stay at home and hang out. And you can't hear anybody.

Everyone's yelling. Sometimes the music is bad. I understand the allure of an outdoor bar experience in the summer like that's a part of summer yeah but outside of that i'm good i don't really even like it's cold we haven't like we don't have a good i mean it's not that it gets cold in la but i get like in the winters in new york it's cold and you're like how how can you even arrive at a thing that you can do outdoors in the cold? It's just not.

Well, and also just like traveling outside in the cold like that. Because it's like, okay, like I have to take the train into the city or take the train in Brooklyn to go to Williamsburg or the bus or whatever. And then I got to like arrive with my coat and then it's warm in there because it's cold outside. So they have the heat on in there and you're taking everything off. Whereas I could just go to my friend's house. And like the food is better. my friends have great wine selections the wine is better put your coat on their bed instead of like have it dragging and like no we got really nice coat racks okay we've invested in nice coat racks okay all right i was i was going back to my time in New York when my friend's furniture was like a box spring, a mattress, and the box that they brought some of their shit in was just overturned. As a side table.

Yeah, side table. Yeah. I mean, the music is really crucial to me. I feel like that was the difference for me between a place I would like to be and a place that like, yeah, like the, the outdoor setting, like one of the key components of that is that there's not music like blaring and like, there's a, there's a piece of received wisdom in the bar and like spirits and restaurant community that like if you play loud music people drink more they drink faster which makes sense because there's not like you don't get distracted by conversation i guess or it's like the thing to do or it makes it feel like you're

at a dance right like and you're back as a teenager and you're awkward but you have alcohol now and right it's pump you're like yeah man hold on let me just down this whole fucking drink so i can say one sentence to you which is damn it's loud in here huh yeah like a first date at a bar is never a good choice like you just like you can't really hear them and you're like okay well i guess it's like you can bump it to the music a little bit but usually you're like sitting down and it's just it's just weird also we have like you know there's like kinds of bars too like in la new york there's there's like bars that are just full-on scenes right like you know it's a scene you know what

the scene is at that bar it's a very specific way of getting down or the way people dress etc and then my favorite is like the just a diverse neighborhood bar where you're like bro it looks like everybody who lives around here just comes in here to like have a drink. That energy is much more. I feel like in welcoming than the kind when it's like, you know, hypey city and everybody's like, yeah. And a lot of the Manhattan bars are the scene. And then a lot of the Brooklyn bars are like, oh, we all just hang out. And I like it.

lot of the brooklyn bars are like oh we all just hang out and i like it but i'm like at the end of the day i'm spending like 80 bucks to drink what three four glasses of wine when i can like buy a 14 bottle wine at home there you go an eight dollar block of cheese yeah one thing that i think more bars should try blaring podcasts specifically this podcast in their bar let the people know you could just do a great compilation of all the AKAs. I mean, I'm sure that the smooth criminal one I just did is going to hit the charts at some point. Totally. We'll get hit with a cease and desist or not. What is something, Allison, you think is underrated? I think I'm already worried that I'm not going to articulate this

as well as I'm imagining in my head. But I think that kindness and stating something in a kind, gentle, direct way is underrated. I feel like and this might be a social media thing, but I feel like there's this premium placed on boundaries right now, which I agree with. Like, it's really good to have healthy boundaries. That is something I struggle with. And I think a lot of, just to placed on boundaries that at least in social media, the way that it's discussed, it's like, here's what actual boundaries look like. And then they'll list these boundaries that to me, it comes off so harsh. And I actually made note of them.

Like, you don't get to tell me how I feel. That wasn't funny. It was offensive. If I want your advice, I'll ask. You don't get to tell me how I feel. That wasn't funny. It was offensive. If I want your advice, I'll ask. You don't get to comment on what I eat. All of which I agree with the sentiment of them. But I do. And if you're dealing with an asshole, fine.

You know, that's great. Say something that that's that direct. I just think with each of them, there is a way to say it that is a little bit gentler. I think that in real life, most people aren't trying to be awful. We could give people the benefit of the doubt. Most people are just kind of bumbling about and they don't really mean to do so much harm. So I feel like in the service of self-care, sometimes we're actually being pretty mean to people. So I think what we might be losing speaking in, I say, yes, let's speak in a direct manner, but let's also try to be kind. Let's not.

Yeah. Kind, gentle, direct. Yeah. But we can't throw out the direct part. Right. We shouldn't go so far to be kind that we're not saying what we mean, because I know that I can definitely do that. I can like just. It's a fine line. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. Yeah. There's something to be said for like, how am I communicating my needs to this person?

Right. Am I communicating in a way that they feel they can come back to me again? Right. And like have and like this conversation or am I shutting a door? Sometimes I mean to shut that door um but not always you know sometimes you know i agree with you for the most part i think everyone's just doing their best and and trying to be helpful and supportive and and get through their day and there's definitely ways we can have conversations but yeah directness is a challenge. Yeah. I'm bad with boundaries. And one of the things that I find now that I have discovered boundaries are a thing and that I need to communicate them to other people, my own boundaries to other people. do a bad job of it get let the like you know idea of like i gotta set this boundary like build up inside and then have a tendency to do just the worst job of communicating that and and then like as you get better as i've gotten slightly better at doing it it's i found that like i i think i had my mind like boundary as like a single a singular like you just stepped on

the line dude and now you're fucked and it's more like being good at communicating it like in a lot of ways over over time which is a lot of work but I think it's something you can practice and like get better at but right and and maybe for people who have trouble communicating them, that sort of overcorrection is necessary at the beginning. Yeah. I think kindness, being like kind, gentle boundary setting is for people who are good at setting boundaries. And it's something to aspire to. Right. But definitely, you know, set the boundary instead of not. too. But definitely, you know, set the boundary instead of not. Yeah, that's why I say I think that in a way I might be directing this more at social media than at real life, because it's these

TikToks and these, you know, things on Instagram that I find myself looking at where I get frustrated because it like, you know, just tons of things online where it's like, here's what actual boundaries look like. And I read it and it just, it's like, this is coming off so unnecessarily harsh to me. And again, that might be a me thing. Yeah, I think it's an everyone thing. But all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. Woo!

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Yeah. So the last week, I mean, Fox has been just like a trove of just, you know, some of the weirdest shit that you've ever heard, whether it's like just parroting Kremlin talking points or just things that are like so like intellectually bankrupt that you even have trouble like following what the thread even is, aside from just like it ends with like and that's why biden is worse than trump there's just been all kinds of stuff and you know sadly when some of the hosts want to go into like the spin zone they tend to encounter jennifer griffin who's one of their like veteran foreign correspondents i guess like with national security and you know started her career in russia whenever she's been on in the last couple of days, she's almost every time been like, yeah, the last person just said something I can't believe was just said out loud,

or like, or even checking the host, be like, no, no, no, that's not actually true what you're talking about. Like, you know, really trying to make sure that there's not a ton of like misinformation, disinformation getting put out there to the viewers. And on Sunday, she was on, you know, like misinformation, disinformation getting put out there to the viewers. And on Sunday, she was on, you know, Trey Gowdy, Mr. Benghazi on his show.

He was speaking with a retired army colonel and former Trump military advisor, who was essentially saying, just let Putin do his thing, man. He wanted to take Ukraine for like ever. So just let him do whatever he wants. Like, there's literally no point in like getting involved in this i'll play this for you and gaudy uh doesn't really have much to say in response to this but let me just play this clip for you i think we need to stay out of it the american people think we should stay out of it the europeans think we should stay out of it and we should stop shipping weapons and encouraging Ukrainians to die in what is a hopeless endeavor. So when you say stay out of it, you mean no sanctions,

no military aid, just let Russia take the portion of Ukraine they want to take? Yes, absolutely. So yes. Trey Gowdy's like, OK, sit idly by while more innocent people are needlessly killed and let Vladimir Putin just do as he pleases. And the guy's like, yes. So then once that segment ends and like, you know, the viewers have been subjected almost five minutes of this, you know, like Putin apologists kind of stuff. Jennifer Griffin comes on and she just has to she starts off by saying, like, hold on, I actually need I would need more than 10 minutes to even go through everything, why everything that guy said was wrong. But I'll give you the start of it, just so you can understand her sort of like conviction to clearing up what that other loser

just said. 10 minutes is enough time to do so because there were so many distortions in what he just said and talking about the West and NATO vilifying Putin and sounding like an apologist for Putin and talking about how he thinks he knows how far Putin wants to go. I don't think anyone that I've spoken to here at the Pentagon or elsewhere

in Western intelligence believes they know how far Putin wants to go. And I think that the world has seen what Putin is capable of. And to blame NATO membership for what we've seen Putin unleash, we've seen from Putin's own words that he is talking in czarist terms from a 19th century view of empirical—imperial Russia. So those, what he just said was so distorted that I do feel that our audience needs to know the truth. In terms of Putin, I've known.

So, you know, she goes on to say, and here's why I'm an authority on what, like all of this. By the end of it, Trey Gowdy, complete, just, I don't know. He's like, I agree with you, which is the weirdest thing because a second ago, he did not push back at all with that last guess. But let's just hear Trey Gowdy at the end of her impassioned rebuttal to that retired colonel. Yeah, Jennifer, it takes a lot to surprise me. At my age, I was pretty surprised at Colonel McGregor. I mean, his view of life is, well, Russia's been telling you they're going to do this. So they did it. I found his take on it stunning and disappointing. Marco Rubio and others.

OK, my man, you've just been anti you've been Mr. Anti sanctions. We need to stay out of it the last couple of weeks. And now that somebody with a with some know-how and intelligence pressing you, you just capitulate like, oh, has he been he's been on that side of things? Because my main issue is him saying he was stunned and surprised when during that guy's like long tirade about how we should just step step back and let Putin do whatever he wants. I was going to ask if if they had replaced him with a photograph of him because he just like didn't move. He was just like completely still and with a like dumb smile on his face. So it seemed he expresses shock in a very in a very strange way. Yeah. By nodding his head and being like yep that part

that part i mean before he's like i don't even know how good sanctions are going to be and i mean that's valid if you're going to actually really take it to the point of like what does that mean for you know uh real estate investments in places like new york miami london like is are will the sanctions go that far in which case is it? But he's just kind of been the whole time like, I don't know. You know, I'll just kind of go with whatever the person in front of me is saying. Because that's what we do. And frankly, he was lucky we were on TV because I would have kicked his ass the way he was talking that shit. You know, I think our viewers could see it.

I was fucking heated, man. Over here. Anyway, he is so strange looking, by the way, because he can't decide on what like fash haircut he wants. Like every 10 minutes,

it's always changing in the weirdest ways. It's like, he's really given off like strong Paul Rubens in the original Buffy, the vampire slayer movie. But to me, to me like that uh like the referee for the hunger game movies the host yes yeah i mean he needs some funny facial hair he needs to like get some sideburns that like connect on top of his nose or whatever the fuck they were rocking back but you know this is this is all just kind of

part of watching like what democrats or republicans in this country like how they're kind of dealing like with what's happening you know for the longest time republicans have just been like trump like apologists for the way how accommodating he was with vladimir putin and or even like how he handled like ukraine's past for, you know, defensive weapons. And they just continue to, you know, sort of double down on this or at times make it about the culture war. This guy, Congressperson Clay Higgins, has tweeted like the most nonsense shit a couple of days ago about about what's happening in Ukraine. And this is what he tweeted. This is, again, shouldn't shock you that this is a this is going to be a direct quote and you won't believe it's a direct quote as miles reads it because it does it doesn't it doesn't make sense it's like a mad lib but like mixed with i don't know man like you you feel like you're on drugs listen hey take off your nintendo glasses for a second and

listen up this is from him quote you millennial leftists who never lived one day under nuclear threat can now reflect upon your woke sky. You made quite a non-binary fuss to save the world from intercontinental ballistic tweets. What? This is what you write when you take euphoria drugs yeah yeah if the parent there's only one parent or two parents in the whole show but if if that parent took the drugs and then tried to fit in do a hey hey fellow kids yeah with your woke sky again this is his really bizarro old boomer energy wrapped up and basically trump would have prevented this upon your woke sky that's yeah i live under the woke

sky i'm gonna start saying that now yeah pretty live under the woke sky where sky daddy lives isn't that what someone called god sky daddy sky zaddy quite a non-binary fuss to save the world from like i'm trying to like pull out the buzzwords to see but like it even then it doesn't make sense what starts off by saying hey upon your sky like i i i could rim i could remember like when the Soviet union fell, like I was old enough. I can, I have a concept. We're elderly millennials. I know, but geriatric.

Yeah, exactly. We are. I'm a geriatric millennial through and through, but I'm like, sir, I, not to say that I, I've, I've lived under the threat of nuclear war or something like that, but to act as if there's no context or lived experience looking at things granted i may have been a child that's ridiculous but also this the second part is the whole thing is that it's it's going after the like the idea of people being more inclusive that's why it's a non-binary fuss to save the world from trump which is the

intercontinental ballistic tweets or whatever to the world from okay so you've put i don't even know that he has that locked in to be honest with you like that the because your woke sky doesn't really make sense right is the sky like alluding to the missiles that will i think so now reflect upon your woke skies. That we avoided war. So because there's been minimal peace, that the sky is woke? Because also I feel like anyone who remembers anything after 9-11 has probably remembered a consistent stream of warfare.

That's what I was going to say. I didn't live under the Cold War, but I definitely remember the post 9-11 hawkishness that ran through the country do you remember those promotions on the disney channel where they were like i love america because patriotism is cool that was wild. Right. Hi. Yeah, I'm Hannah Montana, and I love Scud missiles. Okay. All right. Let's move on to some news.

Let's talk some John Bolton. Always good to catch up with this guy. He's just got good energy, good vibes. But they had him on Newsmax? Yeah. And he wasn't having it. He's not on board with the Newsmax pro Trump bullshit. It's like they don't know who John Bolton is, like as it relates to Trump. I mean, he him leaving the White House, it was clear he was like, did not like Donald Trump. Now, was he going to go as far to like actually do the right thing about some? Well, no, not really.

But he'll do the right thing to get a book deal to like, you know, because that seems to be the path for most people exiting that administration. But his relationship with Trump wasn't positive. So that's why I was like, this is an interesting choice to have on Newsmax. You want to have someone who's from like the national security warmonger set to come on your show to talk about what's happening in Ukraine. And they're like, the whole spin coming from right wing news is essentially that, you know, this narrative that, you know, when Trump was in power, none of this shit was happening.

But then the second Biden gets in now, Putin thinks he's a tough guy because, you know, Trump had him shook and see Trump was actually a strong guy and keeping us safe. Not with this Biden guy. He's all over the place, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. So that's like kind of the way they want their like viewers to kind of take in what's happening is that Trump could have prevented this by coddling Putin more. But anyway, they had John Bolton on to say those kinds of words in front of him. And let's just say he very much was like in one of those few moments like, let me tell you what really happened when I was there. So take it away, you Muppet looking warmonger.

Was pretty tough on Russia in a lot of ways, forcing NATO members to pay up, as we know, sanctioning Nord Stream 2. Oligarchs close to Putin were sanctioned, selling anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, so arming Ukraine, withdrawing from the INF Treaty and expelling Russian officers from this country as well. He looked, in 2018, he looked NATO members in the eye and talked about the reliance on Russian energy by Europe and how horrible that was. I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I'm surprised you don't think that he would have handled this better than Joe Biden. No, he did not. He did not. We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We did. We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We should have. We should have brought the project to an end.

We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales of S-400 anti-aircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it, saying we were being too hard. The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, ifland were a part of russia it's just not accurate to say that trump's behavior somehow uh deterred the russians i so it's just like what the fuck is what where am i that's i i also don't how are they just pretending that he didn't almost positively

collude with russia to win the election. Like tough on Russia? Like maybe tough when you were just like jacking him off maybe? Like I don't know. You've got to use the lotion that one time you jacked him off. I know, but why wouldn't they at least spin the narrative of like, you know, oh, they were friends and he was sucking up to him. And so this wouldn't have happened. It's just like tough on him

it's it's just such a wild also yeah very sad we have to reference Newsmax as if it's a real news organization yeah I mean when you think of how many people began to shift away from Fox News and they try to say things like you know maybe Donald Trump lost that election people like ah fuck this we gotta go to carmax but for news where who else can we listen to give me the news facts i'm looking at some uh rav4 hybrids that say trump is pretty sexy and the president so i like this and still the president who's handling russia well yeah it's i mean it's one of those things where, you know, obviously they have to project and always say whatever is happening is the opposite, even in the face of just the most, you know, damning evidence or despite reality. So, yeah, I think for them, they're like, this is the only thing we can really run with. We can't run with. Could Trump have done more? Because that's not a thing anyone is going to say on these networks. It's like he did everything.

He was perfect. And the only reason this is happening is because Trump's not president. OK, the reason why that climate change report that just came out that said that we're in a really dark spot with it, that also that wouldn't have come out if Trump was president. Also, and the Lakers would be in the playoffs if Trump was also your wife. She wouldn't have left you if Trump was still. So you're right. I like this channel. I like this channel.

She would have been like, you were right about QAnon and you guys would still be together. Yeah. Those bullet points were very light and one of them just wasn't true. Right. I have not tuned into Newsmax in a while while but i hadn't fully appreciated how much it now just resembles like russian state-sponsored tv like that's just straight up oh yeah them in oan they have like the and also they have the worst production quality i was gonna say like why can't they get better logos like i need a logo that's not out of focus. Like if I'm going to really sink into these issues.

Oh, it's not out of focus. We just don't know about creating graphics at higher resolutions. So we use thumbnails for everything. So they're all distorted when we put them on big TVs. The other thing is like so many graphic artists, like I've seen like posts of people just slamming just like how they even set up like the graphics on the thing where you know traditional news even fox news a graphic will come up like in the upper corner and like other graphics will like animate to move out of the way to be like and then our next story which is like there on newsmax and oen like literally

just see like a jpeg like of like violently just be like and then this is happening and then like layer another one on top and you're like no one gives a fuck in that direction like i don't you know sometimes we go into these like republican versus democrat and we're talking about the issues we're talking about voting rights we're talking about climate change but like i think our new angle should just be like all right look at their graphics look at ours look at their graphics. Look at ours. Look at their comedians. Look at ours. Listen to their music. Like, let's stop fighting on moral issues.

Let's stop fighting on what matters. Like, let's get in on stuff people can relate to and be like, is this really your party? Right. Just, yeah, really go like the marketing team. Like, it's actually like really like the saddest thing you could do. Chelsea, you're going to be saying that until Ben shapiro takes over hollywood which he's in the process of doing so i think you should actually here's now but here's what i said i said graphics

music and comedians now when it comes to podcasts they're putting us in the fucking dust oh yeah the red like they hold the top 15 position and uh like 15 of 15 people who I don't even know their names are like the number one podcast host in the world. No, they're crushing us. So if if you guys could move to 24 hours a day, I'd really appreciate it. We've been Bon G node and we there's nothing we can do about it. Bon Bon G node. Holy shit. Yeah.

do about it. Fully Bongino'd. Holy shit. Yeah. It's also to claim that he would be doing something. He's not in power right now and he's not willing to criticize Putin. He's still...

So we kind of have an idea of what this would look like if he was still in power. It would just be that Putin had even less resistance. And he actually did say he came out earlier today. And on Wednesday, he did actually have a comment that was telling Russia to stop. He said that he called the invasion a holocaust. They really love to use that word for almost anything.

Right. I mean, with the vaccines, it's a total holocaust right now making people the mandates and you're like hold on you use that word for actually anything anything anything it's it's really gotten like holocaust is it's a it's really odd to be able to take the meaning out of that word and i think they're getting close right oh yeah it's gonna be like anything that sucks he's like and then i get my order from mcdonald's i open the bag they forgot the quarter pounder total holocaust i love that you do that in trump voice too it's 100 yeah and you're like it is but he did say he wanted he told them to stop killing these people so i think someone got his ear like i'm sure that'll work yeah yeah yeah right yeah i mean it's a good strategy it does seem like the new strategy which has been russia's strategy but the new strategy in ukraine for the past like week now has been just war crimes it's just like

bombing hospitals and schools which i don't, like in terms of repercussions, like probably nothing is going to happen because it seems more and more clear that China like has his back, like the Rolling Stone, like did a digest of Chinese propaganda on social media. And it's like basically just mimicking what Russian state sponsored TV was doing a week ago. So that I feel like really their bots went from like, man, these are like the sickest Olympics I've ever seen in my life. And then suddenly that account is like NATO aggression and be like, whoa. On February 22nd, one of their more sophisticated Twitter bot or whatever, probably a person who they pay well to do this, shared a video about the Olympics. Happy moments come and go, but memories stay. And then abruptly switches its focus to just saying that Ukraine is actually friends with Russia and this is all the U.S.'s fault.

like actually friends with russia and this is all the u.s's fault so yeah they it it seems pretty clear like what what side they're on and it's just gonna be it's it's scary it's a scary future i feel like it's also like very similar to the climate change strategy where china's like it's you and we're like no it's you and like and and then um and then people just die in the meantime right you know like it's it's it turns out it's all of us but that's not helpful to well actually turns out it's mostly the u.s right yeah like statistically the like china china will never produce the amount of CO2 that, not CO2, that the U.S. has. Like the U.S. has like produced so much of climate change,

like no one will ever catch up to us, even though their numbers are currently higher than ours. I don't want to pivot to climate change. We got to stay on war. You know, just like one tragedy at a time. The war against Earth. Yeah. But that's tough. I saw in your notes that the account was called Spicy Panda.

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time a celebrity had an issue with beheading somebody in an artistic expression it's kathy griffith when she held the decapitated head of trump which i thought was a hoot and a half i didn't see it as threatening i understood to to some extent, you know, you're not supposed to, like, paint pictures or, like, produce images of violence against the president. But then, you know, I remember Obama being lynched in effigy in a lot of early parades that were anti-Obama. early parades that were anti-Obama. So, you know, here we are, art, and criticizing it, and sort of trying to come to some conclusions about what it means. If I separate the fact that Pete Davidson is a real person who's still in his 20s, and just look at it as an art piece of, like, here's a guy who essentially blew up his own relationship, is going through a lot with his baby mama and the kids and

the incredible intensity that is fame who has bipolar and is you know either i'm not sure like what where he's at working on it i don't know what that is i do know mental illness is not an excuse for your actions you still have to be responsible for them um speaking of somebody with multiple mental illnesses that being said like the rage is palpable the art is good not morally but just not morally but just in a this black and white claymation part claymation part live action video is interesting it evokes a very clear emotion it is i think the right just again just from an artistic perspective like the rhyme scheme hits the visuals of what he's trying to depict works on the flip side of that there are like real people involved and kanye like many celebrities of his ilk i'll include a taylor swift in this understands that when they say something about somebody

their audience takes that to heart Nicki Minaj fans are the same way and as celebrity you have to be aware of like who are my fans and what are they capable of what have we seen them do before and I do think that Kanye is sort of spreading this message of like get Pete Davidson it's not direct it's not it's not it's not a direct message but it's definitely there subliminally and i think it can impact some of his younger more impressionable fans if i were kim i could see being afraid like this is and we talked prior to recording if this were a private citizen like there would be a good reason to call the police absolutely he's just posting pictures of like killing my new partner.

I don't understand what's happening. It's very frightening. We have children involved who, you know, don't need any of this in their life. Yeah. And so from that, it's,

it's hard to, I think on the one hand, like as a person, I'm pretty, I don't even want to say appalled. Cause I've been in an emotional state where you're just like, ah, the rage.

But I do wish that there was any kind of deeper thought than just, I don't even want to say appalled because I've been in an emotional state where you're just like, ah, the rage. But I do wish that there was any kind of deeper thought than just here's my rage playing on the page. You know, if there was. Kanye's artistic depths are very vast. He has the capacity to sit down and fully articulate himself when he wants to. And I think this is just reactionary and because of that i think it has the potential to be a dangerous message i mean yeah it's yeah yeah i mean i will say and and finally just that the like decapitated image of pete sometimes has like a cartoonish vibe where he's

like sprinkling seeds over and growing roses that i then think he puts on pete's own casket it's like very strange but then there's other moments where the sculpture and the lighting it looks pretty authentic and that's again in the same way that i think there was like an uproar against eminem when he was talking a lot about like making whole songs and very articulated audio designs of murdering his then wife there comes a line where you're like yeah there's just there's a point where you as a viewer like oh i don't wish death on this person and i don't want to be a part of anything that might lead to the death of an individual yeah at the same time like yeah artistic expression man it's it's a lot and i I shudder to try to contain that in somebody.

But I don't know. I mean, what if Barron Trump sees this? He's going to be. That's definitely what they said about Kathy. He's going to be so confused, according to the talking points around the Kathy Griff one. He can't tell the difference between. Yeah. Yeah.

I haven't seen it the whole thing is claymation like there's no actual pictures some of it is i believe it's the game who is also on the song yeah his part is live action and then some parts like the actual parts with like the pete davidson head are all claymation what's interesting is to think and i have obviously haven't seen it yet what's interesting is to think about how many people were involved in the making of it and you know knew exactly what was was they were creating and i wonder what their thoughts about it were well connie's team has no problem like a few years ago you might remember like he did a video with him in bed with a bunch of lookalikes that people he's had different types of interactions with so there's a taylor

swift lookalike in there there's a kim lookalike i'm pretty sure it's kim lookalike you're not actually kim and a bunch of other people and i like this his private and public life are not separate you know he's very he's become very famous for just posting people's tweets which is like stop tweeting kanye he will just like screen grab it and post it on his instagram so yeah i don't when i think about artists in the past who live that way without separating anything from their private to public life there's such a visceral desire to consume that person's life and sort of live the second hand existence next to them think about like an andy warhol type you know everybody wants to go be part of andy warhol's clan and like get painted

by him or whatever tried to assassinate him. Yeah. Because it breeds obsession. And if that line isn't blurred, then there should be, and I think probably made much worse by social media, there's the line of, I'm an individual and you're an individual

who do not actually know each other becomes so blurred. Particularly, you know, Connie Kortz's fans align this like, I would say like the third sort of act of his career as we know it so far he has like a lot of private events you can only listen to his album if you buy a specific device upon which you can listen to like it's very closed off and removed from everyone else and so it creates this sort of like cult-minded

mentality and I don't think I'm being superfluous when I say that I really think that if you look at the design of his clothes all muted tones all one look like there isn't a lot of space for individuality either you're a part of the Kanye train or you're not and while that makes for extremely loyal fans and consistent revenue, I do think that there's an aspect of you that has to look at how you're influencing your fans and examining what they do and condemn when it's gone too far. And I don't think we'll ever see that out of Ye. And I also just don't think that he is fully in his right mind now. And that's scary. Do you think he's endangering pete davidson and kim

i do i do i'm not saying that it's in the same way that i thought it's hard too because i've gotten caught up in this before like i thought the joker was an irresponsible movie when it first came out now i just think it's kind of dumb and silly but we were so heavy into the throes of trump and that whole like proud boys era where it was just so intense and very scary you know i have friends in los angeles being assaulted at gas stations at the time because they looked latinx like that's very intense but in the end of the day like it was a piece of art that didn't have much to say and nothing came out of it but did that take away from it i don't know if art is dangerous or if it's the

interpretations and the actions people choose to come to you know there is there's kanye saying i want pete davidson dead which you know, a horrible thing to say. And also smacks of domestic abuse. You know, you can't, if somebody leaves you and goes out for someone else, you can't attack the new person they're with. That's domestic violence. It's a terrible thing. It happens a lot and oftentimes escalates to violence against women. All of that is very scary, but it's not a direct threat.

against women all of that is very scary but it's not a direct threat and therefore i'm not 100% comfortable saying like this is enacting violence because at this point in time it's just an artistic expression right yeah i totally hear you and the question of like with whom does the responsibility lie and it's so absolutely and it's like so dang i totally get what you're saying because it's so dangerous to want to contain art but at the same yeah i totally get that but at the same time like there's something more here that feels worrisome yeah as a third party outside of all this like i think at this point in time my my only goal is like, I hope Kim is doing the right thing she needs to do to protect herself and her children. And as always, I'm hoping there's somebody in Connie's camp who really loves him, who is like, hey, man, like we can we can help get you like whatever you need.

You have all the access and money and funds like you don't have to be in this much as much pain as that song is conveying. You don't have to live with that. You could be doing other things with your time in your life it's precious it's minimal what would you like to be doing it can't just be chasing after kim that's got to be exhausting so yeah all right dude should we close out with a couple things that are making us happy oh god yeah it's been a downer day sorry Sorry, listeners. So, Joelle, it's time to drag my ass. It's Batman time.

Even though I'm also excited for it. But, no, you're excited. You feel good about the direction. Yeah, and I got a little time. So here we go. Okay, Batman. Some of you, if you followed me at all to other spaces, you understand, like, Batman is my earliest memory. The very earliest memory I can access is watching batman the animated series on the couch

my dad and my brother and my mom i have been obsessed i too allison was a dark goth child i really liked learning about like mummification and then somebody was like they had a whole bunch of instruments of torture back in the day and i I was like, I want to learn about all of them. And Batman was like the first character who I was introduced to who experienced genuine angst. His parents were murdered. And I really think that started my love of like Victorian literature. And they're very obsessed with death. I just like I loved that here was this guy who was channeling all of his hurt into trying to help. But then, like, later as my love of Batman continued to evolve, I was like, oh, he's really channeling his hurt into more hurt.

And then you get into the thought process of, like, here's a billionaire with access to everything. And he chooses to use his time punching people in dark alleys. And then there's the idea of, like, oh, vengeance. And what does that mean and where does that become like a toxic trait and the more i think about batman and the way he's taken a tragedy and allowed it to consume himself i can't not love that character it's so dark it's so self-destructive and then he creates like a faux family around him i love my chosen family i have a very tight-knit collection of of people that i love who i spend holidays with

and stuff my my actual blood family is great too love them but chosen family is so important that people choose to come and be with you and love you and and see you through difficult times and then on top of all that it's housed in Gotham, maybe the most epic, it's like if Chicago and New York became a hybrid city, which is honestly where I would choose to live if it were a reality. It's got blimps and L trains and it's dark, but also very gothic in structure. In the anime series, it has a red sky.

It feels like it's on another planet. And all of this essentially boils down into batman is a badass and he lives in the most badass city and now this movie comes along and they're like we're gonna add sex whoa guys that is the best combination there's been a lot of talk marvel is a dominant cape and cowl like space right now which is fair again as i always say disney has earned the praise they've done amazing no one's ever done this before that being said it's still disney and they got to be squeaky clean okay your cap is fine he got blue eyes he believes in truth justice in the american way kudos i don't want to see a guy

who believes in blood on his fists okay i want to see villains that never pull their punches there's no altruism in any of these villains like we're not he's panos snaps because he was like well maybe i can make it better i'll just do a horrible thing and take that on my shoulders is that psychotic yes does he believe he has altruistic values he does okay fine i get it everyone's trying to do good again what if we just came to a world where bad guys were just real bad people just awful to their core didn't i love living in the world of like i'm from chicago one of the most politically corrupt places in the world give us some political corruption beyond just oh like we're with hydra okay we get it nazis

terrible i don't see the guy who's like yeah i did close down that orphanage so i could build a parking lot what of it they're on the street too bad kids should have kept your parents like ah i just it's it feels more fantastic at this point than aliens right it's it's both steeped in realism and so the extreme of what you can never no one is putting on a latex bat suit and going out to kick ass because it doesn't make sense but what if someone did you would want to see how that played out well first of all speak for yourself on no one's going out i forgot that you had the secret costume in your basement ready to go. That's my bad, Jack. We've seen that and the pirate costume live right next to each other.

But yeah, that and then casting Zoe. We have a black cat woman again. The world is right. Thank you. And they're going to fuck and it's going to be great. We need sex in superhero movies. Give it to us. I can't tell you. And I haven't been this

buzzed. i was really excited for spider-man it like spider-man who doesn't love peter parker like so charming love that kid but batman's my guy and he ain't been done right in a long time i'm sorry i'm not a ben affleck batman stan i get it you guys love him i'm happy that you have him but it wasn't doing anything for me i think robert Pattinson can be my Batman. I'm looking forward to having him. Yeah, just like real goth. Like go real, real hard goth on it.

So you didn't like the sex scene from the Spider-Man with like all four Spider-Men? You know, when it got to the DP scene, I was like, this is a little much. I want Disney to go back to the squep scene i was like this is a little much uh i want disney to go back to the squeaky clean it used to be i think this is going to work on a different level plus it's got um oh my gosh what can i think of his name andy circus in it and uh whenever that guy shows up amazing things happen yeah has not been in a bad series yet. His selection choice is superior in Hollywood. I have nothing but faith. Allison, speaking of pee, your thing that you're excited about is Pam and Tommy. Oh, yes. I have been very into Pam and Tommy. I didn't watch this week's episode yet,

but I watched the first episode and I was like, I'm so into this. And then I watched the second episode and I thought, I think I'm over this. And then every subsequent episode I've been, I'm like, no, I'm not. I can't, I cannot watch this fast enough. It's a real guilty pleasure. I have no attention span these days, except for this show. I think it might only be half an hour. It goes by very quickly. So it is a guilty pleasure in that I saw the headline of an article. I did not read the whole article. But I think the gist I'm getting is that because Pam, the real one, did not consent, did not give her a... Oh, wait, it's an hour, apparently.

What show was I watching? Anyway, who cares? There's some show that I was like, I can't believe this is only't believe this is i'm getting 31 to 50 something like oh it varies different lengths 32 to 51 minutes is the running time that is so that's so odd i love streaming why not that is weird yeah yeah it's not like the every chapter in a novel has to be the same length, you know? I mean, just the magic trick that is transforming Lily James and Sebastian Stan into Pamela and Tommy is amazing because they do look like, it's like spitting images.

No mom prosthetics, yes. Yeah. That needed to be done. It's amazing. And I didn't know, whatever I thought I knew about that story, I didn't know that many of the details. Seth Rogen is great.

And but anyway, the article. So so the Rio Pamela Anderson did not consent to her life story being told. So I think that I think there's I feel like I read something about like essentially it's kind of re-traumatizing her for this to be told. So really, we shouldn't be watching it. So I feel guilty about the fact that I'm watching it. Although, like I said, I only read the headline. I didn't read the whole article. So maybe it didn't even say that.

But I have mixed feelings about the fact that I'm enjoying it, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless. Yeah. So I recommend it. Yeah, that's kind of the gist. And I'm paraphrasing a quote right now but essentially that she was like shocked and a little disturbed that this whole thing was going to be rehashed yeah um i do sort of wish they had sent her the screeners before they aired it because i think she might have been comforted by the fact that apparently at least it seems to a lot of reviewers

that they're trying to make her out to be this like feminist icon. And it's very sympathetic to her. Yeah, it is very sympathetic to her. She comes off well. OK, so producer Justin is saying and I thought I saw something to this effect yesterday that now she's going to tell the real story in a Netflix documentary. And I do enjoy the way Netflix and Hulu are like, they are real, they really hate each other, it seems. No, they love each other.

Listen, that's bolstering because they don't have a lead in the show like a network does. And so now I have to watch both fire documentaries. And if I watch one, I'm good. How wrong did Hulu get their Pamela Anderson story? And in the, that's true. They do feed off each other. Or is this just pandering?

Right. Yeah. They feed each other. But isn't the story that like somebody was doing like deck work for them or like construction work at their house? Like Tommy. Yeah. He was doing.

Like stiffed them. And so. Yes. As payback, he stole a safe. Yes. Yeah. So the Seth Rogen character who's actually had been a porn star as well he was doing construction work at their house and then tommy lee like kept wanting to change

what was being done and all of it he hadn't paid for any of it but he kept saying like you know i'm good for it you know i'm good for it and then he wanted to change another thing and it was going to be like another bunch of money and so the construction workers guys were having to front it with their own money. And they were like, look, we can do it, but we're going to need the cash up front. And he refused. So then he like fired them claiming they'd done shoddy work, which supposedly they had not done shoddy work. So then the Seth Rogen character came to, he realized he left his tools there and he came to pick up his tools. And Tommy was like, you're not taking your tools. Like I fired you.

And then he wanted his tools. And then Tommy pulled a gun on him. So he like in the, I don't know if it's true, but in the show, he pissed, he pissed himself, was like completely emasculated, left. It was very sad. He had a flashback to a sad thing from his childhood as well, left, and then decided he wanted revenge. So he came back and stole a safe.

Did not know what was going to be in the safe. But in the safe was a whole bunch of stuff, including this tape that they had made. Hiring a porn star to do construction on your house. Did not know he had been a porn star in the past. Okay, I got it. Yeah. Interesting.

It does just seem like the setup of a porn. Like, it's like, I forgot my tools. Is anyone home? I just forgot my tools. Yeah. And in the series, the way he remembers that he forgot his tools is he's at home having a little wanking session watching

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