The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 217 (Best of 3/14/22-3/18/22)

Episode Date: March 20, 2022

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Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Dana Gould! Dana! Thank you very much. I always like to get my daylight savings off of guesting on a podcast. That's how we do it. Right. Yeah.

I feel you about getting... It does throw your kids off. I have three teenagers, so, uh, so I'm always seconds away from murder. It rotates, but one of them is always on death's door. Yeah. Oh my God. Is it like one of those things too, where you said like, cause they're, cause like, you know, as a teenager, I basically was like a mummy in a tomb like sleeping for most of my days so does the

does this like exacerbate that trend yeah yeah one of them is still asleep because they didn't have school today for a school bureaucratic thing but uh yeah and i i always have to like go back to like remember how I was as a teenager because there is I in my life. I meet people that I knew before I was 30 and I just issue a blanket apology. I'm sorry. Right. If you knew me before I was 30, I was wrong and you were right. And I'm sorry. About everything.

Yeah. It's just an Etch-A-Sketch at 30. Let's just restart this thing right now. Yeah. That's good policy, man. I know you can kind of tell some of the past illustrations are on the Etch-A-Sketch. It's not perfect, but it's mostly cleared. And now there's a smiling face.

A ghost of old behaviors. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, mine are four and five and so usually my problem is that they spring out of bed and like start jumping on on me at like you know way too early but now i got i got a preview of literally dragging their body to the car i get both because we have three dogs and four cats and three kids and so like i i guess i get the cats wake me up literally the cats literally get on my body oh and uh how many you know how much evolution until you can open a can you know you're just a failure you're a biological failure and uh and then uh yeah and then i have so it's just uh it's every day as hell bliss sounds like bliss yeah exactly that's cool man's cool, man. I see that you're out on the road occasionally. What's stand-up like these days?

I've been on the road. Right now, I've been home because I'm writing a film and I'm working on a TV series that I don't know if I can announce it yet. I'm just a writer on it. I don't know what the deal announce it yet. It's just I'm just a writer on it. I don't know what the deal is with it, but it's being made. And then I'm plugging my little show on YouTube, Hanging with Dr. Z. So the shows I'm doing are I'm doing in town. I perform at the Improv a lot and at a thing called Supernova, which I really like. And then probably later in the summer when things lighten up, I'll go back on the road. Sometimes I go out by myself and sometimes I go out with Bobcat Goldthwait.

And we like to think of ourselves as comedy's version of Seals and Croft, you know, just out there. Nice, man. Hilarious, hilarious as a summer breeze. Right. How are the rooms? Haveious as a summer breeze. Right. How are the rooms? Like, is it, have you noticed a post-pandemic difference? Is everything, are the vibes good? I think people are really, I think people are really happy to be out. That's what I find more.

There's two things that I've noticed since the pandemic. One, people are very happy to be out. Two, a lot of people that are, that are, that that are like comedy fans during the pandemic, they lived on Twitter. And then you go into a club and you quickly realize that Twitter is not the world and that you actually can say something without enraging a certain segment of the population and that actually, they're a lot looser than you think. You know, Twitter is literally like, knock, knock. What about the homeless? You prick! You know, and the world is not like that, which is just refreshing.

Right. And I'm really not bemoaning heightened sensitivities. No, no. I accept that. I understand it. It's called human evolution. It's society progressing. I do understand that, and I welcome it. And as a writer, I welcome the challenge.

And as a middle-aged white guy, I also know that no one cares what I think. And that's fine. 2 2 000 years was a great run i get it i got the last 50 or so yeah no problem i just think they were going to go but but in terms of like the rogan aspect of it yeah did you think they were going to go quietly after 2 000 years you think they're going to shrug but it is nice that people's sphincters are a little loose that you can actually talk about things. You can laugh about things. Right.

Sure. It's just nice. Yeah, but I'm really not pissing and moaning. Yeah, yeah. And also that knock-knock joke kills, though, too. It does. What is something from your search history? Oh, yeah. it was funny as i i didn't even know i was like i haven't had to look up my search history and then this morning when i was like

oh i need to know that i looked up i mean i just googled google search history and then my search history popped up there you go but uh it was funny i saw it saw it out there like a couple of days ago. I Googled David Archuleta. You remember that little homie from American Idol? He was all like that. Oh, hey. Oh, you know, like. Right, right, right, right. A little young, cute homie.

But I don't know why. I was just like, man, what does that pull up to? I don't know why I thought of him. Yeah, yeah. And I looked it up. And yeah, he's still out there doing it, man. Yeah, yeah. You remember what I'm talking about right yeah dude it's like he just had one just you know one of those people

who had a very specific moment and then gone yeah yeah what's he up to yeah i looked it up and i was like he seemed like he was gonna pop because he was a came in second place you know usually like the top five or whatever got something but he did drop like a record and he went on uh you know his like mormon missionary thing for two years so he would just out the game for two whole years okay and then he did went and did that which i kind of respect that you know and then he came back and yeah he's still doing like little tours and stuff so he's out there man man for a second i thought you said like you're talking about the football player adam archuleta and i was like oh i remember him when he was on the rams there was this clip i remember my friends would talk about how his hamstrings were so strong like he could like lift himself up from like a lying position just using his hamstring yeah we're like yo this

is fucking wild anyway like he's all all like risen from the dead kind of look. Yeah, just like. Oh, oh. Girl. You're like, oh, shit. No, no, no. I'd like to see David Archuleta try that shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's not a competition, Miles. You're saving people. Yeah. Like I was searching Adam Archuleta, actually, and he is stronger. He has stronger hamstrings. David Archuleta got the good ass hair, but he don't have hamstrings like that, though. Exactly. I mean, so when he was on American Idol, he was like a child, right?

It was like a Bieber type thing? Yeah, it was like when he first saw him, yeah, he was like, and he was, but he started playing into the like, oh, I'm the little cute homie, like a little too hard. It started kind of getting cheesy. Right, right. He crossed the line from like, oh, man, this dude's super likable, to like, all right, homie like a little too hard it started kind of getting cheesy right across the line from like oh man's too super likable to like all right homie come on they would ask questions like hey so you know what do you think about your friend ah well you know like uh you know you know it was like calm down homie right

right we get it to a point but when everything 30 now. He's in his 30s. Yeah. I wonder how that shit plays now. Probably not good if you're rubbing your mitts like, well, you know. Why would you think you qualify for this bank loan? Well, you know. Yeah, I just work hard. I love my family. See what my net worth is. I mean, it seems like a pretty safe loan for you guys.

I don't know. I wonder if anyone's ever done a list of, like, careers that are interrupted by the Mormon mission. Like, the sacrifices that people put in for that. Because, like, Sean Bradley, right? He was going to be one of the top picks. He was still, like, number two. But he was number two coming off of his Mormon mission. Oh. Remember?

He was, like, he stopped playing basketball to do his mission. Yeah. I just remember writing Sean Bradley off pretty quickly. I'm sorry. That's just what I did. Like, this guy is too tall. And the best he'll be is, like, a monster in space. Yeah.

Yeah. I think I remember, I think I heard on a basketball podcast, they all, like, run together in my head. But, like, somebody's saying that, like, when you look at his metrics on defense, he's, like, one of the best to ever do it. But he was just very, like, quick, quick moment when he was peak. Sarah, what is something you think is overrated? It was just very like quick, quick moment when he was peak. Yeah. Sarah, what is something you think is overrated? I think that cashews have coasted as a snack nut. I've come to conclude because I was eating a mixture of peanuts and cashews the other day and I found myself really favoring the peanuts. And that got me to thinking about the fact that cashews are more expensive, more difficult to

harvest. I think like the labor involved in making cashews is a lot more intense. I don't think we really grow them domestically. And so now I have a conspiracy theory that cashews aren't better than peanuts they're just more difficult to obtain right like we're like at the will of the old like nut prices of the 19th century where they're like cashews are like gold and we're still like i don't know the taste isn't that great compared to peanut because like cashews have a flavor but they don't have that peanut bite i'm i'm cashew gang i love i love cashews despite the fact that they when you look at them and how they're grown they do look like the poop of another fruit they're just like little curly

things that hang out of the bottom of what looks like a pepper like a yellow bell pepper and i still i still love them because they're soft. They're softer, so they don't get that little... Easy on the teeth? Easy on the teeth and easy on the... I don't get the little chunk. Like almonds, I feel like I'm eating little pieces of wood and the wood pellets get stuck in my throat.

And then I'm having coughing fits out of nowhere. Like 45 minutes later, I'm just like, all right, well, this conversation's ruined. I'll be over here coughing like you've poisoned me for the next 15 minutes instead of having a conversation. But cashews don't really fuck with me like that because they're just, I don't know. I think they start very soft and even after they're roasted, they're soft and I don't know. I think they start very soft, and even after they're roasted,

they're soft and easy to get down. I swallow them whole. Is that not correct? That's kind of winning me over. I should try doing that. But yeah, the softness of the nut, I hadn't thought of that. You're right, because like most nut situations, you're like, I am working to obtain these calories,

and cashews just like want to get inside of you that is a good quality but is the the flavor thing not a a knock against it's pretty bland you know i like the flavor it's like salty and kind of creamy to me that's right no i mean i get i i fuck with all the textures if it's probably rich in oils that's why it's very easy on the teeth but I don't know like the the flavor of a cashew treat isn't as appealing to me as a flavor of like a peanut treat just going off of that alone that's all I'm saying that's all I have to say and there's no need to escalate this disagreement any further I mean if we're going peanuts versus cashews like in terms terms of overrated, underrated,

like how many candy bars are there that have cashews as an ingredient? Like zero, right? Yeah, we have no basis for comparison. We're flying back over here. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. And maybe that's where I'm being robbed as a consumer of not being able to have those cashew choices

in my candy bars. But nothing wrong with these fucking peanut ones because i fucking love to fuck yeah no i yeah i'm happy with the place of peanuts as the predominant like peanut butter is one of my you know probably takes up about 25 to 30 percent of the calories i can it's your blood type i think my doctors are very concerned yeah it's not good actually it's very bad very bad i think i think i paused yesterday's recording of tdz to take a big bite of peanut butter toast miles called it out and was like that's the worst possible thing you could be taking a massive bite of like right as we're introducing our mouth glue while you record

your podcast just intentionally wading into the waters of that aaron burr michael bay commercial that commercial was incredible like i really love how many people absolutely remember it like they like no trouble at all you say aaron burr and they're like oh yeah oh yeah that commercial it's still the best thing michael bay has ever directed i didn't watch hamilton because of that commercial i was i already did it bro i get it you know the legacy is complete yeah i'm like i'm really in my mind there's nothing left to learn right i was like i already learned the the parable of the man in the body cast. Was that kind of body cast? I don't know.

I don't think he was. No. Oh, he's a different one. I think he was working at an Aaron Burr museum. He was. Yeah, he was a different guy. And weren't the fighting muskets in a box next to him? There was some other artifact next to him.

Yeah, he had all the artifacts there. The body cast is a different Got Milk commercial. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Tubs. Okay, hear me out. Huh? When I was moving, I had tubs of stuff.

Oh, I thought you meant Miami Vice. Oh, what? I don't know. Crockett and Tubsubs it's an old people's reference from the 1980s that's totally clearly what i meant 100 i meant both versions of tub save yourself follow me let us die in chuggydom by ourselves go live i just gave i just like gave into admitting that i'm fighting aging, and you guys are like, Crag it in two.

Hey, Crag it in two. And I better remember Crag it in two. Most people think the Waterworld stunt show at Universal actually used to be the Miami Vice stunt show before. They just changed the name. Don't tell any of these youngsters, though. They won't listen. Why are you guys talking normally? Sorry, yeah.

That's actually how they sound off podcast hey thanks for coming back did i let my regular voice slip in all right i'm back i just i like tubs i like tubs of things as i was moving to my new place i was just like let me just load it in my tub now i have like a tub of my like workout equipment back there i'm showing you guys and like a tub of my like plant care stuff i fucking love tubs man they're like easy plastic they're like don't break the easy you can put whatever you want in a tub yeah you can reuse it i'm so old i love tubs hey you're not old enough to get that crockett and tub i know you're right on the tub spectrum i'm on the tub i love yeah you're not old enough to get that crockett and tub so you're right on the tub spectrum

i'm on the tub i love yeah you're like i like moving tubs and we're on this side being like i miss miami vice i remember show with that name in it the man in the white blazer yeah what what's the the container store are you are you do you like to go into a container store i'm sure i would i i love diso i love like the little containers and so like i think that they have like a lot of cute shit i bought a cute ass broom oh it was adorable but like i but i'm not i'm not a i'm not a crate and barrel or like what what is it? Yeah. I'm not a, like a, like a big, a big tub person. Cause I don't have like as much space for it. So I feel like I just, I've just been using tubs that like have come into my, my, my possession from like old roommates and stuff.

I haven't had a real chance to go like ham on tubs. But I feel like I could. At Lowe's or some shit, they'll'll they'll be running their sales i'll pick up some tubs because it's easy because like i'm i kind of hoard some stuff like like some documents and shit because my dad was like audited years ago and he's like you gotta keep all this shit man you never know something okay okay and so i it's nice to have like tubs that you know i'm like this shit is not gonna fucking fall apart because it's cardboard i can use it my children can use these tubs and their children will use these tubs and i have like i have tubs of like indian clothes and accessories and i'm like it's the indian wedding season gotta

bust out my tub i like i have tubs of like i like to save like sentimental things like cards and stuff from friends and so i got my like sentimental tub you know okay yeah yeah and pretty soon you know you just accumulate tubs and tubs and tubs and pretty soon your you know living space looks like one of those container ships with yeah right that's that's where we're at you know my wife and i have been married for almost 14 years and it's just been a process of steady tub accumulation. Oh, really? Yeah. And we got some that are not the color they were when we purchased them. Yeah.

And they, I don't even really know or want to know what's in them. And like, there's just not, there's no conceivable future in my mind where I like like I'm like, all right, time to dig into these tubs. Yeah, I think they're just going to be there until I guess my kids go through them. Your children. Yeah. Whereas my children will use the tubs. They're going to be your children's burden. Right.

I think about that. I thought about that when moving because I moved out of a place that I didn't have to take everything out. It was being passed from like roommate to roommate, but now the landlord's family is moving in or something. And so we, I had to clear out decades of shit that like wasn't even mine. And I was like, and so when I moved into this place and I was like buying a small trash can

for the kitchen, I'm like, I'm going to be staring at this trash can for maybe decades. So there was like so much more pressure to buy something that like was like cute but like reasonable you know what i mean i was like right this stuff that we like surround ourselves with sometimes like we have clothes from like 15 years ago but we also have like items in our house that are like we're gonna have them forever you know and i'm like it's like such a it makes purchases so

much more difficult i'm like who am i gonna even be in 20 years yeah what garbage can do i want yeah you just open it up once like we've all died off and there's like a museum of culture like in station 11 you can make a good my kids will make a good living selling off our you know tubs full of uh first generation ipod chargers and oh my god i have three tubs of electronics i still have to go through all the wires yeah right just a rat 30 pin 30 pin apple cable kids now this one this is a four to six prong firewire converter. Yeah. Why do we save the Apple phone boxes?

I know I'm doing it. Cause the shit costs so much money. Yeah. That's why. The boxes? No, a phone. Like I do the same shit. I have my fucking, I bought a laptop like a couple months ago.

I still have the box. I'm like, man, that doing that money yeah because the boxes they come in are like nicer than the ones that i'll probably be buried in like they're really fucking nice your coffin you can slide out your coffin like a matchbox like an apple iphone hell yeah we're like we're gonna car. And it comes with a free sticker too. Put me in that wall. We got to charge Jack up. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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republican primaries like everybody i picked they're winning so well they're doing so so great he couldn't have been doing better you know he left out the part where most of them are running on a post, but sure, de facto kingmaker here. And he also conveniently ignored how many of his other handpicked candidates were not doing that great, like David Perdue, who he is trying to sick on his arch nemesis,

Governor Brian Kemp in the governor's race for Georgia because Brian Kemp famously refused to rat fuck the election for Donald Trump. So Trump is now just doing using the strategy of like, well, then you're my enemy. And I'll send a bunch of unqualified candidates who don't have as great a chance of winning after you to create more intraparty fighting. And, you know, a few years ago, his endorsement meant a lot. It was the kind of thing that a lot of elected people would be like, well, God, I got to get that endorsement. If he picks this other person, then I'm cooked. But that potency has decreased a bit. And now that he's out of office, his strategy just seems to be really just to use his endorsement as an attack against other Republicans that he has deemed

disloyal. So not a great strategy if you're looking at the long term, but a great strategy if you just want to serve your ego, which I'll give him that. That's his superpower. And aside from that, I think we're also seeing that there's a lot of a lot of Republicans who are really trying to distance themselves from Trump's pro Putin comments, that it's becoming a little more clear that there's like this openness to disagreeing in public with the former president. And now that's probably because support for Putin is already just very low outside of like the OAN and Newsmax and like Fox News crowd. But this like people like this, you have representative Mike Simpson, a Republican from Idaho says, quote, I agree with Pence that there's no room in our

party for apologies for Putin. Again, that's a direct shot at Trump. And like people followed up that question when he said, OK, when he said he agrees with Mike Pence that there's no room for Putin apologies, when he was asked, like, is that sort of the wider sentiment, like in most of the Republican conference, the journalist asked, he said, yep. Yep, that's pretty much the widely held consensus. John Katko from New York, another Republican, he was more direct. He said Putin isn't a genius and neither is Trump. So I think it's an easy win for Republicans because it's such a clear thing.

Like, you're like, you don't there. You're not intellectually built to try and argue why Putin is a genius and why that's good for everything that you stand for as a politician. But like, so I'm not holding my breath in the sense that I'm like, oh, the tide is turning. But it is clear that they do see that it's a it's very problematic for them to take that sort of idea on and sort of campaign on it because i look back at a few years ago and you have people like lindsey graham who would bend over backwards trying to defend his like overtly racist remarks and you're like holy shit he's got everybody like lockstep with this nonsense but But I think this one, it's like just so it's so obvious that

this isn't that's this ain't the take for the party to be hopping in on. And it is bad. I just want to point out, like, it gets pretty bad when you have people like Sean Hannity, who are essentially begging Trump to, you know, maybe condemn Vladimir Putin? Let's hear that. You came under some fire when you said that Vladimir Putin is very smart. I think I know you a little bit better than most people in the media. And I think you also recognize he's evil, do you not? Well, I was referring to the fact that he said this is an independent nation talking about Ukraine. And I said that's some said this is an independent nation talking about ukraine and i said that's some said this is before there was any tax attack he's calling it an independent nation now a lot

of things are changing when you look this doesn't seem to be the same putin that i was dealing with but i will tell you he wouldn't have changed if i were dealing with him he wouldn't have changed you know i supplied and i know biden is trying to take credit and they're all trying to take credit about okay so now he just starts he completely missed that off ramp for him to take and he just goes on to be like you know i got the he goes on to be like the javelin anti-tank busters i gave them that and hannity is even like oh my god bro like please this let me try one more time. The interview goes on for a little bit more.

And Hannity tries fucking one more time. He's like, here, here it is again. I'm going to put the point out that you do not want to agree with this person. You want to be opposed to the actions of Vladimir Putin. Maybe this will be the time he starts to listen. Maybe not. Let me go back then to the issue of the criticism, because I've known you well over 25 years. And when you got criticized for saying that Vladimir Putin is smart, we've had many conversations. And you've often quoted

to me Sun Tzu, the art of war. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Is that how you viewed Vladimir? Did you view Vladimir Putin and people like President Xi and Kim Jong-un and the Iranian mullahs as enemies that you needed to keep close? I got along with these people. I got along with them well. That doesn't mean they're good people. It doesn't mean anything other than the fact that I understood them and perhaps they understood me. Maybe they understood me even better. That's okay. Because they knew there'd be a big penalty.

Anyway, so he goes on to not condemn anything and just says, actually, I'm really good homies with them. Thank you for bringing that up. And he really did the thing where he was trying to do like when I'm sure in the past, when he said racist stuff and you got to be like, Hey man, I've known you a long time. I know that's not your heart. You know what I mean? Because you've hired black people in the past. So how do you feel when people tell you to try and paint your words like that? And then you'd be like, exactly. You know, I've been a big supporter, blah, blah, blah. He couldn't even do that in this instance.

He's, I think, very much locked into this idea that it's only him that could have prevented an invasion because he was so close with Vladimir Putin. And that's essentially the track he's on at the moment. That's hilarious. Just because I don't know. Trump is such a wild figure to me because he lacks any kind of actual charisma like he's not good at giving speeches even the ones pre-written for him he's not people tune out after 15 minutes he's not attractive in the way you would think like a uh oh it's like a sterling political figure like well he's got strong jaw and like

a face you could trust or something. And like every time he opens his mouth, he sounds like an idiot. And yet there are still people clamoring to hear him speak. That's, it's a trip. It's, I think, but it's, there's something, even the way Hannity was talking, right? He's, there was like a, this level of defeat. It was almost like Hannity was there to try and like prop up this old,

like punch drunk boxer that he used to idolize and is slowly realizing he's just a regular, creepy old racist guy. And there's not much he can do. I guess also you have to think that probably Tucker and Hannity are desperate to have Trump condemn Putin now. Because I think they're going to be stuck with their own support of Putin around their necks, you know, and it's going to make their lives difficult. I mean, I think, you know, Tucker in particular, I don't know if he has designs on office or not, but it feels like the real you could do of, you know, praise for Putin and denial the Ukrainian invasion was about to happen is not going to be very helpful. So I guess they probably want to get Trump to denounce Putin so

they can kind of sweep this whole uncomfortable dalliance under the rug. But I gather some, I mean, there are some people who are rallying around Trump in the Republican Party and still kind of supporting Putin, which is, I mean, let alone from a moral, ethical, geopolitical standpoint, just from a, you know, self-interested point of view, it's very hard to understand. Yeah. And I think it's because it's these like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn types who, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene was at like a total fascist event that are like, you a white nationalist group that loves putin and when she was speaking they were chanting his name and she was just like shouldn't bat an eye at that and people like what the fuck madison cawthorn we talked about last week how he was saying like

zelensky the thug and actually like ukraine is so corrupt that it's and they push woke ideologies that this is a good thing that putin is doing And you're like, dude, you don't even know what you're saying. I think you just I think you're such on autopilot to be like, I just have to agree with whatever Trump says. And that's how I keep going without any understanding, again, of like the geopolitical nature of this, what the outcomes could mean for anything and just being like, I don't know, man, I just do whatever Trump does. And then I think it's also important to realize that these folks really view themselves as part of like an oligarchical society.

Like they think like having money makes you a better human being. And I think that many of them are hoping for a Putin victory. And like all they talk about is is a global shift in like fascist direction. And this is the start of that and i think they're excited about it i don't think that there's any thought other than this is our chance to win and see this swift change brought here which is right because if you can normalize yeah they want to normalize especially a lot of like the cracking down on like dissident voices or LGBTQ people. And they're like, whoa, we fucking love that. Oh, we love that.

You know what? I actually like. And that's a lot of the talking points you hear, like on. Oh, and they're like, I mean, look at what he's against. You know, like that really aligns with a lot of the stuff we're talking about. So why shouldn't we be there? But that's not the case here. So anyway, back to Trump, though. The other thing about

his brand waning is Truth Social, his whole fucking Twitter clone that was supposed to upend the whole discourse of the internet came out. It was a total wet fart. Everyone could barely register. It was like a waiting line that's like a half million people long,

and people are still barely able to use it. And if you look at it, it's pretty much a failure by all measures. Trump barely uses it. Melania has publicly said that Parler is her official home. His kids don't use it. Many big name media personalities in the conservative like take a sphere do not use it either. And the ones that do like they get very little engagement on it and don't seem that excited and again i think this shows another aspect of it that the brand isn't as strong as it used to be especially when you consider that like the main attraction to this is just being like hey trump's here huh come on the only thing trump's been good at selling ever it's merchandise and reality tv like there's not a success story in anything he's ever sold

aside from that so it's still wild to the people who are like it's gonna work it's like no he's never properly invested in a company ever yeah it's a stupid idea and again i think the other part of that too is like i think he he the people behind that social app and a lot of this stuff these like republicans who want to set up like these safe spaces for racists and fascists is that they really don't like republicans in this country they just derive their sense of self from merely being like the antithesis of whatever democrats are like they can only define themselves in relation to this other thing they have no identity aside from no we are the party the party of regressing. So if there's progress there, the only thing we know how to do is just like try and rein it in and slam on the brakes. We don't

really have anything to add outside of being like, no, not this thing they're talking about over there. And again, it shows they have no interest. So they're not interested in an echo chamber. They need these environments where they get to argue with liberals that's the only that's their their lifeblood and i think they're also failing to understand it's like we don't give a fuck about a place where i can use like racial slurs without being banned like i get off on saying those to liberals that's how my life works so it's a bit of a balancing act that i think they're struggling with and, it doesn't help when the first lady's like, fucking truth. I use Parler. Like what? They can't even get on the same page with their marketing. And lastly, when you talk about products, he's also begging for jet money,

which is a huge thing. He was at a fundraising event in Louisiana and a jet he was on had like an engine failure and they were forced to have an emergency landing on his way back to florida and i apparently freaked the fuck out of him the next day there's emails going out to all the supporters being like we're gonna need a little how would you like to participate in funding the new trump force one project and it's and again most people pointed out that that 757 that he was going around during the 2016 campaign that's's like in a fucking hangar in New York. That's like beyond repair. The fucking one engine needs to be replaced.

One of them isn't even like on the fucking plane. So he's been framing this as and also this is a new Air Trump Force one that I've been working on in secret. So even the media doesn't even know about it. No, dude. You panicked on your fucking P-Jet because the engine went down and now you're trying to grift for your own jet money. You ain't got no money. Yeah.

You ain't got no money. And she's using it on jets. The fuck? So, I don't know. It's interesting to keep our eyes on this one and, again, watching how the conversation is like shifting and there's like this one brief moment of like bipartisanship and like that most of the republican establishment is like no we agree yeah uh invasion of ukraine is bad we do we agree on that which is very hate

seeing white people at war really tears them apart oh god those kids have blue eyes i mean i had i have blue eyes you know there, I have blue eyes, you know? There's never been a war in Europe before. It's new to us. It's totally foreign. I couldn't imagine. It happens to brown people. Ugh, awful.

It's terrible. And that's all. One of the weirdest ones, I think one of the French, I don't know if it was the French foreign minister or some French minister said, they drive cars like us. Stop it. What the hell is that? Stop. No. they drive cars like us. Stop it. What the hell is that? Stop. No. They drive cars like us.

What did you think Ukraine was before this, too? Did you just assume it was the Stone Age? And then you're like, they drive cars like us. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Now let's get into the solution, folks. I'm talking, of course, about the metaverse.

Get pumped. Get pumped. Get pumped, everybody. So, you know, I have been skeptical from the start. I just couldn't imagine a world where suddenly people were interested in using a 2008 version of virtual reality. like a 2008 version of virtual reality. Like, but this, you know, there's just the will there.

There's like the intention from rich people and therefore it's not going away to make this a thing. And yeah, like you're starting to see it everywhere. People, you know, at companies that we work with are like talking about the metaverse and like how this is like a thing everybody's going to be trying out and shit and it's just like have your events in the metaverse right it's just so funny this like this like reminds me of like how they kept trying to push google glass on us and we were just like no i don't want it it reminds me of that but it but it's

it's holding like yeah we were we were like no get the fuck out of here with google glass and they were like okay we're sorry i know they're ugly and with this one we were like dude are you like even stupider than google glass and they just like kind of looked at us and we're just like so the metaverse though right yeah the meta but i don't know i'm having some hope because like like with crypto and like nfts like nfts values are dropping like a crazy amount or whatever so i'm like maybe maybe this won't hold you know like maybe it'll hold for like an annoying amount of time and then maybe it'll go away well i feel like nfts the model is like if you're assuming that the way things work in the u.s at least is that like rich people get richer

which seems to and like have all the power nfts are all that doesn't seem like everything i've learned my whole life and nfts the rich like they're designed to be like scams where rich people get people to invest and then the bottom falls out so like yeah i feel like that's operating as it was intended to like they just didn't tell anyone that that was the intention but with metaverse like you know one of the five richest people in, um, in the world, I think has his entire fortune, like tied up on the, in this and like probably a lot of his very rich friends. And now like we're seeing, this is the first time I've seen an argument where I'm like, oh yeah, maybe people will be using the metaverse like a year from now.

What a, what, what a boring thing to invest like some dumb like vr shit like why not make animals talk you know what i mean like think of something more creative well actually you could like take a you could you could have a animal abby in the metaverse and so your friends could actually have a conversation with you where you appear to be an animal. Jack, you do that voice too well. You ask talking animals, I give you the metaverse. I give you the whatever. What do we call it again? Metaverse.

I want you to do that to your wife. This is going to result in divorce for sure. But every time you're like you're like i give you clean dishes you ask why didn't i do the dishes i give you putting the kids to bed there it is but yeah there's this like new poll with the metaverse you know evangelists they're all pointing to that there's like this work trends poll that's showing that people who are talking about using metaverse technology or merging technology technologies at work, that group is beginning to grow. So there was 52 percent of these respondents of employees are open to using digital immersive spaces in the metaverse for meetings or team activities in the next year. Forty seven are open to representing themselves as an avatar in meetings.

Then they say like Gen Z and millennials are 51% and 48% respectively that can actually see that their work could somehow like do some kind of work within using the metaverse, whatever that is. Then Gen X, it's only 37%. Boomers, it's 28%. But more than like when I look at where that openness comes from, I don't think it's that necessarily Gen Z and millennials like, dude, I want to use a metaverse. Like, dude, if I don't have to go in a fucking office, yeah, I'll use a fucking metaverse. If that's the binary, like, let's suit up right fucking now because I don't want to go to an office. Instead of suiting up.

Yeah. And I think when you look at like how this all works, right, a lot of the push of the go back to the office, like energy that we're seeing through government and the media, a lot of it has to do with the fact that commercial real estate took a huge shit in the pandemic. You know what I mean? Like decimated the demand for office space. As many companies, they were able to move to remote work. And that shift absolutely smashed the pockets of developers and people who own massive tracts of like commercial

buildings and things like that. But it also helped the residential real estate market. So getting asses back into the offices is a huge, like it, like that's all part of like a strategy to help recover the commercial like office sector. And that's where I kind of like this metaverse idea, because it's almost like you're seeing this tension between this, you know, traditional tangible like world that real estate deals with. And then these people who back the metaverse are almost advocating for another version of like using space that isn't tied to the physical world and saying maybe that's where you do it why would anybody want to do this over zoom that's what that's my thing is like that's

the hard work see jack come on now that's that's the thing that i'm there they didn't ask a follow up question where they're like okay now zoom or this other shit right that's like question two yeah and the person who asked it just like got pulled off stage. That's 100% like what I'm curious about. I guess the reason that I brought up like NFTs and like crypto, specifically like more crypto, is that I feel like crypto is a thing where it creates the problems it's attempting to solve,

where it doesn't really solve any like new problems. And I feel that way about the metaverse. I'm all about like automation and technology and innovation like i think that's like really important but i think that there are certain technologies that just like create more problems than anything that they're trying to solve right and i think like like with like digital currency and going into crypto and then things like this it's like how the like how the fuck is like, like, different generations and different people from people from different like socioeconomic backgrounds?

How are they supposed to like, accept this, this technology that seems to be like more difficult and unnecessary than like, zoom? You know what I mean? Like, it just seems like they're trying to complicate the office situation or like like just like interacting with people in general they're they're making it more inaccessible you know right yeah there's too many and they're painting it as more accessible like they're like you don't have to come in but you have to build an avatar and wear this fucking mask you don't have a vr headset fuck no i have a i have a felt like self-facing camera on a laptop

if i have to update my headset before a meeting they got me looking dumb in here with the fucking egg avatar in this meeting someone didn't update but yeah it is it is it does seem like right now we have we've very much found a way to be able to connect, get things done, you know, with just using video that we can now see each other's facial expressions that that can that can help already take away some of the need for office space. But yeah, this idea that, well, no, maybe I just don't understand the metaverse enough and Jack in that voice can explain it to me. But like, what, what is, what is it offering? Like, what is it offering that Zoom, like, can't practically solve for an office situation? I think you mentioned the, when I'm here on zoom with you, I don't look like a talking animal, but were we to enter the metaverse, I could see like a sick concert and I could be a talking animal.

That's all I got. I'm changing up my filters right now. I'm a fucking talking animal right now. I'm a reindeer. Yeah. What now? What talking animals do you need now i think mark zuckerberg probably likes it because he can't see people rolling their eyes at him like in the metaverse

whereas if it gets good enough you better be able to right like the only way i could see it is if like it's so it's like i'm talking like the matrix type shit for me to be like, oh, I see. That's how we use it. Like the shark mouth. Was that a fin on your head? Yeah, I have a fin. A shark coming out of your mouth and a fin coming out of the top of your head. But it's like a full shark face coming out of just my mouth. Like the nose and the eyes are also like this one.

Part of it. Okay. On this one, the metaverse might be ahead on the shark filter. You look like Bane at a children's birthday party. The shark one. I was born in the darkness. Look at my fun mask.

I was born as Baby Shark. Molded by Mama Shark. Do, do, do, do, do do do do do do do okay amazing okay all of you

has been shown off the fact that zoom can totally do animal faces and okay don't tell people because my metaverse

stock just to get dumped I had a feeling that this kind of came out of nowhere like you the article that you're linking

off to is just a I guess it's a blogger this is so funny to me because the byline is miles gray no it's guiles ray guiles ray oh i assume that was a typo that's not even this is so funny to me because like we're on to the metaverse and somewhere people at Skype are like, we'll make a comeback. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's brains just churning 40 hours a week trying to come up with... Like, so much of America right now

is people spending tons and tons of human capital on terrible fucking ideas that are never going to get off the ground i guess that's always been like capitalism but that's definitely happening at skype and i still use skype every once in a while so wait for what like is it for like fun to have a conversation with a older therapist relative right yeah there's there's also like certain like tutoring organizations and stuff that requires like some places do require Skype or like other weird web-based video conferencing apps which is strange

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And if anything can pull us out of this depressing spiral of news that we've caught ourselves in on this Tuesday, let's talk to Dolly Parton. She's out here doing the right thing again in a different way. Yeah, explain this to me. So I saw just this thing that says she's not, she's bowing out of being nominated, or she wants to come out of contention for being inducted into the Hall of Fame because she doesn't want to split votes. She doesn't want to, yeah, basically,

so the class that they were nominating included Beck, Devo, Kate Bush, Eminem, Rage Against the Machine, Carly Simon and others. And she pulled out because she didn't want herself to take away any votes, which probably she would have been like a unanimous runaway runaway because she's so popular right now. unanimous runaway win runaway because she's so popular right now and her explanation was you know i do hope the rock and roll hall of fame will understand and will be willing to consider me again if i'm ever worthy this has however inspired me to put out a hopefully great rock and roll album at some point in the future which i have always wanted to do so basically just like i don't make rock music and i don't feel like i should get nominated ahead of all these other people who do actually make rock music yeah like eminem right like eminem so it's interesting uh jm our writer jm mcnabb put together kind of a history of the rock and roll hall of fame and it is you know very american so it started as a marketing grift basically i know just like woodstock though i mean woodstock also was

dreamed up by people on park avenue yeah but yeah basically it started as a guy wanted to put together a TV special featuring rock greats from the 50s and 60s. And an ad man suggested changing the name to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Along with the name change, they planned a modest museum so that said name would make sense. That's, that's it. And then like there, there was... That too, now. That show, like, basically never happened. But people, you know, the TV producer got squeezed out of the organization. They started making their own specials. Once his five-year deal expired at the end of the 80s. And that's where we get this idea of a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But, yeah, I mean, like, on the one hand, like, I think Dolly Parton should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but yeah i mean like i on the one hand like i think dolly parton should be in the rock and roll hall of fame it's great like another chance to celebrate her and her music but yeah whatever she wants right yeah literally whatever she wants i think and that's how she

does that's how she lives her life too yeah you know what i mean yeah she's just like i'll do whatever the fuck i want and who knows like? Like, you know, supposedly covered in tattoos. Yeah, I know. That's one of my favorite conspiracy theories. Roll up the sleeves. Show the guns. Yeah.

So, I mean, the way they do the nomination process is kind of confused and half-assed to begin with. You've got just basically 40 anonymous music journalists who put together the nominating list, and then that list is voted on by a larger pool working in the industry. Again, I think they're mostly anonymous. So you have to just look at the results to get a sense of their taste or any biases that might be in place such as eminem getting on the list of nominees ahead of most great rappers and it's just like

the academy awards i mean it's rare the best picture is the best picture right right yeah and it's like the if the academy awards started in the 80s and was like all right let's get all these knock out all these movies for the from the past 100 years get them all at the same time yeah and then you let a bunch of old white guys vote on it i'm sure you would end up with a pretty skewed pretty skewed results yeah right exactly well it's it's weird how like they're also like you know like miles davis will be in an inductee but then there's like this big blind spot for like like black other black artists even though and maybe in their mind they're using like well they're not really rock but it's like well hold on right exactly they only get huge talented

people so what what's the logic of this nomination process to begin with yeah people say they specifically have a blind spot for post-disco rmb acts and black female artists shade has never been nominated even shaka khan was like nominated several times but then removed did these people ever fuck in the late 80s and you don't have that on your fucking list come like you fucking know anything about music how is tone loke not in there right he's like wild thing man oh yeah but it does just seem like they check the q ratings of various celebrities and are like all right dolly parton's hot right now let Let's throw her in there. It's like people who say the JFK

assassination was when America lost its innocence. Right. They did nothing else before that that wasn't innocent. No fucking around with atomic bombs.

Slavery? Maybe slavery? No. Innocent mistake. Jackie got shot. Only had the best intentions. Well, you know that was all set up by Fauci, right? Yeah. I don't have to tell you that.

Fauci's time machine. JFK is going to be back any day. Of all the people to be the villain. Right. Nice doctor. I was like, yeah, I don't know. We're trying our best. Even in the memes they make, it's so hard to make him look evil.

You know how Hillary Clinton, they'll find her mid-sneeze or something? Yeah. Or use that shit. Like Fauci, all the photos are like, he just looks like a stock photo of nice old doctor guy. Like even with a red filter, it's,

I don't know. They're visually not really catching. There's a clip. I don't know if you saw the documentary about Mr. Rogers. I think it was called. Won't you be my neighbor? I think. Yeah,

I think that's right. And there's a beautiful, beautiful. I mean, the whole, the whole premise of the doc, if you haven't seen it, is he was really Mr. Rogers. Right. He was a beautiful human being who worked really hard and had a family and none of his kids are meth heads. They all love him and they miss him. And his wife is lovely. And he was a minister and he worked really hard he had adversity and he struggled through it and he was famous all of his life and he never raped anybody and we don't know how that happened we're studying it but uh there was a thing like fox news like they were they were they were attacking mr rogers because he said that every kid is special and so like

that's the problem with society this This guy thinks every kid is special. Right. No, he just means that their kids deserve love. That's all he's saying. Oh, kids deserve love. You know, and it's when you have a problem in your brain where everything provokes anger and that your knee jerkjerk response to everything is anger, that you will find yourself defying logic to justify your emotion, like attacking somebody like Anthony Fauci or Mr. Rogers. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think there's a lot of toxic masculinity, like, that shaped, you know, me, like, growing up. I came out of the process of, like, being a teenager, feeling like the only acceptable emotion was anger. And that, like, sadness and, you know, guilt and any vulnerable emotion had to, like, go into the black box and come out as anger. And like, it takes, yeah, there's a great quote to that end.

A great quote that you have on my desktop by Joe Strummer of the clash. Yeah. Okay. Punk rock means exemplary manners to your fellow human beings. Fuck being an asshole, which is what some of you pricks thought it was. I like it yeah well speaking of punk rock we do have to talk about the shamrock shake because uh saint patrick's day is coming up and there's nothing more punk rock than one of my very best friends my ride or die, Ken Daly was

in a Shamrock Shake commercial as a child actor in like 1980. And if you YouTube Shamrock Shake commercial, odds are you will see hilarious young Ken Daly in a Shamrock. He was also in the movie The Karate Kid.

He was Ralph Macchio's buddy in The Karate Kid. Wait, which one? The one who ditches him at the beach when he gets kicked? But he's the one that's there at the fight at the end. It's like, you did it, you did it, you did it. Oh, nice. Yeah, he's his buddy in The Karate Kid. Oh, man.

Yeah, he's in a lot of stuff. Karate Kid is second on my list of movies I watched, you know, a hundred times before I was seven years old. Oh, yeah. Do you watch Cobra Kai? I watched up through season three and my shark jumping meter started going. I haven't seen season four yet. I didn't watch it.

Please don't tell me they all become spies or something. It gets very QAnon influenced. Oh, no, no. Yeah. One thing about the show which I love is that as somebody who lives there, where the show takes place now, not everyone's in a dojo. I drive around all day and I'll rarely meet anyone who's in a dojo. You know what? I drive around all day and I'll rarely meet anyone who's in a dojo. I, you know what?

I was, I was in Griffith park this weekend, hiking with my wife. And there was like many large karate classes doing like demonstrations. And then we were like driving home from that. And there was a dojo that was like bursting at the door with like people i was like it's all happening it's all happening this is what i always dreamed living in southern california would be like the karate craze of 22 so they only get released around this time of year

in limited quantities there's a highly devoted fandom you know jm wrote the story tastes like scope a little bit they taste like scope tainted uh vanilla milkshake but you know jm called it an eerily green drink but you know it's anyone who's familiar with matcha it's not there's nothing eerie about that in the building does it get its green coloring from anything as wholesome as like matcha tea leaves? Probably not. I'll say definitely not. As an Irish person, I don't think of ice cream. What's a drink the Irish like?

Ice cream. Nice foamy. Yeah, nice frothy, mouthwashy ice cream. Yeah, frothy foamy. Yeah. Nice frothy mouthwashy ice cream. Yeah. Frothy mouthwash. Yeah. It's a, it's the only dessert mouthwash we have.

Yeah. And helps cover any odors on your breath when you head home. Hey, come on now. Hey. That and the McRib. Yeah. Right.

I mean, they know what they're, they're doing. They've been doing the shamrock shake for. Yeah. I. I mean, they know what they're doing. They've been doing the Shamrock Shake for longer than I thought. I thought it just, like, popped up in the 90s, but this is a long time ago. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it was forever. Yeah.

There is a Shamrock Shake Finder app you can use to make sure you're going to the right one. Shamrock Shake Finder? And there's even a founding controversy of like who invented it. There was somebody in Connecticut claimed to have invented it in 66 and 70. There was a promotion around it to like raise money for children's medical treatment. of their franchisees in 66 and now just like quietly changed it to be the fact after like defaming this franchisee for years but there's also uncle o'grimacy oh yeah yeah uncle o'grimacy he's basically a green grimace who started uh popping up in mcdonald's ads in the mid 70s made of like a a green fur that looks very similar to oscar he seemed to somehow be made of shamrock shake material yet also drank it it's sort of like the human equivalent of a guy that walked around eating his own hand right but yeah and then in 2017 mcdonald's tweeted an image celebrating this irish tweet with the image of a guy turning a shake with like five straws into you know the

traditional irish instrument bagpipe, set against the traditional Irish landscape of Stonehenge. Dude, just take a dump right on the flag for that commercial. Not putting a ton of thought into it. A great traditional Irish tiki hut. Right. They can't win. Anyways, I haven't had one since I was a kid, but I think I'm going to be in.

Do you guys drink boba at all? That's the new thing. It's like, here's a delicious drink. Now let's pour some shit in it that makes it hard to drink. You'll choke on. It's funny. In the beginning, when I was in high school, I loved it with boba. Now I'll go and I'm like, no boba.

Hold the boba. Just the drink part, please. I don't want to chew while I drink. Yeah, I loved it with boba. Now I'll go and I'm like, no boba. Hold the boba. Just the drink part, please. I don't want to chew while I drink. Yeah, it gets stuck in the straw. Then you start to drink and your head starts to go. Right. Did you? But Uncle O' Grimacy, though, was also controversial because there's this like,

Jay was pointing out that an event in 78, a guy in an Uncle O' Grimacy costume, like this is a rumor like on mike or whatever just said that quote the only good british soldier is a dead british well then he is irish that meant something in 78 yeah so that's the rumor as to why uncle of grimacy disappeared from shamrock shake the official drink of the troubles right there i mean yeah they were like trying to intimate too that he was like connected to the ira like oh he was shin fein man you better watch out like what the fuck yeah i mean even the philly voice said uncle grimacy was let go shortly after because of his controversial ties to the ira i don't know if Philly voice is to be entirely taken at face

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