The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 222 (Best of 4/18/22-4/22/22)

Episode Date: April 24, 2022

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Courtney Kosay! Courtney! AKA, I did not prepare a song.

There it is. So sorry. That is fine. Have you heard that TikTok cover of Tom's Diner where the dude comes in and makes it all about himself? Oh. Oh my, hold on. Hold on. I'm gonna play it. I feel like any millennial,

if they haven't heard it, has to hear it just to see how far we've come astray. I do feel like our two choices of AKs could have been on the radio back to back in the late 80s. I was surprised you guys don't have to pay licensing fees i know this this thing did like the whole song yeah oh yeah it's well it's so atonal that

no like modern a algorithmic copyright sweeping software could ever pick it up yeah they can't tell our intention just based on yeah we end up getting money and they're like actually it sounds like suzanne vega was covering you um but here this is this this band ann and may canter right in giant rooks version of this i we can cut this out justin just so she can hear it oh my goodness oh what do you think of that um honoring the source material yeah wow yeah that's I think that's all we can say is, wow. Courtney, just listen to it. I think we're cutting out the actual song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like most people know, just in case people, because we actually played it. But yes, that guy's voice, he's bellowing when he comes in with that line. It gives us something to think about. I felt that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jamel, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

My search history, kind of boring lately. I searched Adidas yesterday. Okay. Just the words? Just the word Adidas. What's up with them? Yeah, just seeing what they was up to. Easter suits.

Yeah. I was looking up Easter suits, looking up the tan Obama. Yeah. I think mostly what I'm searching is clothes. The weirdest thing I searched is Geno Green Global shirt. Do you remember these shirts from the late 90s, early 2000s? All the rappers wore them. They were very oversized, and there was a bunch of number nines.

It was like shirts with like a month. Oh, yeah. Every rapper in New York. Papoose had like DJ Klay Slay. Right. Oh, Rest in Peace. Oh, yeah. R.I.P.

K. Slay. Exactly. They had like an exclusive Geno Green global gear. Yes. And I was in Seattle, and I saw a 5x red leather geno green jacket wow and i didn't get it but if you it's probably still on the wall at the crossroads you could open for papoose capital hill go get you one yeah yeah rocking that outfit oh my god did you ever get to the bottom? First of all, were you searching this because you have

three consecutive nine picks and you were doing some meme work in the content mines? Official gear for the Wizards. No, exactly. I was trying to figure it out. It actually was why I was searching it.

My little brother was like, my little brother was talking about, he put up a tweet about our draft odds and I was like, here's us when we get the ninth pick again and it's a picture of papoose and tj k slay

oh man i miss these fashions i'll put some south bowl jeans on and you're back you're ready in the time machine but fubu platinum oh my god with the fucking fat albert graphics come on come i thought they were back. I thought FUBU was all the way back when they dropped the fucking Fat Albert graphics. Yeah. I mean, look, they were chasing that iceberg wave. Because I remember at the time, iceberg was for people who had fucking money. You know, because like an iceberg Mickey Mouse button up was so much money.

Then the FUBU Platinum came in hey we can do we can do lovable cartoon characters too at a lower price point i introduced fubu platinum damn i had a uh i had a fake iceberg sweater with speedy gonzalez on it hey i mean who didn't have the fake iceberg back i think like that was club that was like mandatory club attire like you weren't you weren't doing shit if you don't have iceberg on at the club. That's very true. And the, the number nine was, was that, so I'm just, I, I was not, what was, what, wait, did you go to, I mean, when you're going to, when you're in Georgetown, what did you guys go out? Did you, what was like, you're going out clothing back then?

Oh man. Button up. Yeah. Maybe a button up here and there little button up little quarter zip with the joint underneath very baggy pants but like often like khakis just i dress like shit man completely and totally dressed like shit was just like not socially functional yeah i was i was a mess right like one of those four years the kind of guy who didn't have pants that could go with nice shoes so like no but you're fucked up

baggy pants over like dress shoes and you're like fuck man this outfit baggy pants with like the back of the cuff like kind of torn up because know. It was the animal. All right. I was going to ask what the number nine was for, but I think it was just because it looked like a lowercase g. I think so. Yeah. I think it's just lowercase g's. There we go. What is something you think is overrated?

I mean, right now, like, just the entire West as a construct. I'm like, you guys, everybody're, you're, it's, everybody's like, oh my God. Like, I can't believe that this Russia thing is happening. Cause like, we're all, we're all aspiring capitalists. We all have billionaires. Like, what's the problem? Right. This is, I don't, I just, I don't, I don't understand.

It's like, we're there. There's this thing of like, we're all on the same team. Like how could they, And like, pearl clutching. And I'm like, have you, again, have you ever, have you ever read a book, man? Like, figure it out. I was homeschooled. Yeah. Oh, God.

We, a lot of us who were homeschooled do read kind of voraciously. So that is a thing. My siblings and I are all constantly reading history and like listening to history podcasts, which is probably why I'm like, I don't know. They're just, there's nothing like, there's nothing we can do. We're just at this like kind of point where it's like, yeah, we said we were kind of all going to gonna like just go our own separate ways and like let people do what they want to do kind of like following world war ii and like all this all this stuff that they put together and all these treaties and it's just like oh yeah that only applies to again only applies to darker folks like right the rule of law uh law and order it's like there's i mean like i feel like constantly

like as an american you look at the coverage of like how people are talking and you're like you're like y'all talking war crimes okay right yeah oh god you have you have you don't have a leg to stand on like we don't we don't get to accuse people of war crimes have you seen us they're like we'll invade the fucking hague if you try some shit literally that's the policy right that was the policy and we're over that's why like watching the news is really surreal because like i can't believe what's going on like what these atrocities and you're like fuck man if we could only report on our own shit with the supposed clarity that the journalists are with this conflict, like whether it was even early on with like, well, look at the people dying in this war. Oh, my God.

And like no one realizing. Yeah. No one realized how they sound. And you're like, oh, this is why everything's so fucked up. And then you have our own country being like, this is an atrocity. My God. Look at them. Just look at them.

I mean, guys, these are people who look like they could be your neighbor. Yeah. They could be your cousin. That's why I stand in solidarity with the occupied Ukrainians. Palestine? I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know what that is. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I totally tweeted that, though. I was like, if you're standing with Ukraine, but not, like, Palestine or Yemen, go fuck yourself. Like, you actually don't know anything. Yeah, like, you don't get an opinion in terms of... Right, no. And I get it, too. Like, yeah, you can, as an individual, I think that's why a lot of people were saying, like you don't you don't you don't you don't get an opinion in terms of now. And I get it, too. Like, yeah, you can as an individual. I think that's why a lot of people were saying, like, I can't believe these people are just like bringing up America's war atrocities to cover up things like.

Sure, there are some people who were just doing what about isms to kind of deflect. But I think some people who are truly disturbed by the lack of like consistent care, empathy that goes out from American people. That's what's really frustrating, because we're always seeing like this cordoned off, like sort of compartmentalized empathy and not thinking like that's the problem is you can look at a brown kid who's dead on the ground and feel nothing. But you see this white child, kid who's dead on the ground and feel nothing but you see this white child you know dead on the ground and now it really is an issue and really trying and really you know take the time to confront why you don't feel one thing when you look at one thing and you feel something else looking at the other that's i think what is really the most disheartening part of like observing the coverage and like the discourse from you know many american

people about what's happening yeah i think there's also something where they can like convince themselves that well it's complicated you know we've i've read like all these new york times articles with all these facts and like the only thing that's complicated is you might say some shit that someone you really care about wholeheartedly disagrees with, and you may have to not talk to that person anymore because you're trying to apply a consistent definition of what a human being is. What's something you think is underrated? Overall, I think being nice is underrated. But specifically, I think being nice to video game developers developers i think is really underrated i don't know why we can't just be nice to people who make games right for us what what specific bit of outrage

are you referencing today all of them basically i mean there there's one specifically that legit i basically started y'all played Halo Infinite? I played a little bit of it, yeah. Okay, yo, that fan base is so toxic. I had to stop playing, man. It's so bad. If you, I mean, obviously, Reddit, you know, maybe just don't go on Reddit, period. But I started getting really, really into Halo, man.

I was playing so much. I probably put in 150 hours over the course of maybe a month or some change. There putting work man and i was getting all right and you know you're playing the game and you want to learn you just oh maybe i could find some tips online or something like that right so you know there's people who are posting clips and stuff like that on youtube and of course i always read the comments because people add stuff in or whatever right yo every all of it if you look up things you'll learn something in the videos oh here's how to do this trick or here's here's here's a strategy for this map or whatever right right but man all the comments are just man these devs they don't even care about xyz and man i remember when devs used to care about the craft of making video games just bro have you ever played karate kid for nintendo yeah right have

you played the x-men game on fucking nintendo you see the way superman 64 like do you know what yeah i mean and it's but and then the other wild thing is all that toxicity. I feel like it's somehow, it's got to be feeding it. You know, it turns into this vacuum or this kind of spiral, right? And then the people making videos will be saying, yeah, here's this trick on how you can catch somebody by surprise if you go around the corner. But also, you know what, man, forget this game. These devs are terrible. Maybe they'll fix it, but I really don't think they are. Bro, you're making a living on making content about halo and then what happens yo i promise you man right after this

is i'm watching all these halo videos and then the algorithm youtube algorithm kicks in right so first i watch a few halo videos and it says oh you're interested in halo should start showing me some more halo videos right and then it says hey perhaps you'd like these Joe Rogan experience clips. And then it says, perhaps you'd like this Jordan Peterson clip. He's mad, too. Jordan Peterson's crying in this one. Would you like to see a

compilation of Ben Shapiro owning college liberals? And it's just, yo, what? The pipeline from just Halo to just trying to play some regular regular old video games just going straight just off the deep end man is right it's it's bad yo i'm just i'm just trying to play some video games we got to be nicer these people man they're trying to make games for us if only like how are you gonna it's like getting mad at like somebody at a

company who's like they're not really calling the shots either too like the the amount of work developers have to put in like the the fucked up work practices of being like okay so we're behind on this game or like we're not on schedule y'all are gonna have to work yourselves into the ground to deliver a thing that is then gonna get people are gonna get mad at because we didn't give you guys adequate time to even program the game. Like there's like this whole the way the industry works is only exacerbating that, too. Yes. And I think that's why that people more people aren't aware of. It's like, you'll get mad at the at the company first, not the individual developers first.

Like that's why it is happening. Harassing the developers and stuff like that. And and that's I mean the developers and stuff like that and and and that i mean it's precisely like that we're just now getting the point where you know video game reporters who report on the labor practices of the company right and then you'll see that then you'll see the fans of the game get mad and saying yo why are you talking about that you know get right bring my game out faster just bro right chill they They're working 80-hour weeks. They're not getting paid well.

How about this? Then don't buy the game. Yeah. Stop talking about it. Oh, but you're not going to do that. So then shut up. Do something else. Read a book.

It's fine. Oh, there's so many good books. Have you guys heard of these things? Books? Yeah. Holy shit. I just read a book while I was on vacation. Wow.

I read this classic novel it's the prima guide to tomb raider 2 on playstation just classical literature you know what i mean great amazing amazing yeah man i don't know so yeah i feel like you know if you if you know a game developer just you know give them a hug give them a hug or or just don't... That thing you were going to tweet at them, just don't. You could just not tweet at them. Or if you have to tweet and say, hey, I know this isn't your fault, but I'm still a piece of shit and I will go on

with this tweet. Exactly. By the way, the path that YouTube tried to take you from, like, complaints about Halo to Joe Rogan to Ben Shapiro is the path, again, where we're retracing what led us to QAnon like right there right gamer gate all that yeah yeah something about being mad at video games just really segues nicely into uh authoritarianism and the death of America it's weird it's it's yeah

here we are here we are I feel about, like, a lot of culture. I feel like watching the NBA playoffs and just, like, so much of the Twitter commentary is just people being like, he did that on purpose. He sucks. This is bullshit. Like, he doesn't stack up with Jordan. It's just like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with everybody? Like, this is just fun.

Like, these guys are fucking performing miracles in front of you for your entertainment it happens all the time right is like there are things that bring you joy and then when it's not hitting the same for you like you get really it's it's like fucking you get confused and you start being like well now i'm angry at the fucking thing that doesn't give me as much joy rather than than taking a second, be like, hold on. Might be other things happening. It's not just that the devs fucking suck at this thing. Or hate me or don't care.

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And if I could could for a discount if i could see some of these artists i'm not mad actually like i want to see like i want to see denzel curry right denzel curry's there i want to see bad bad not good yeah i want to see fucking flume fuck it and fat boy slim i'll go there i'll fucking pop molly in the sahara tent when when the drop hits on flume dude on flume bro if he plays the tennis court lord remix it's over city girls core day i'm like the thing is i'm not gonna pay full price for this but if in my mind the situation is i i see a thing on craigslist like please help me i'll give you buy my ticket for $100. I feel like they should sponsor you guys as influencers.

Yeah. People who talk shit up until the last second. They're like, yeah, I guess it's pretty cool. Actually, now I'm here all fucked up. Our marketing policy is all about nagging. We like to talk shit about your product and then come around on it. Ooh, JamieX XX is there? Yeah, there's some good Millennials Japanese breakfast.

Okay. I'm like, okay. You know, Joji, my little half Japanese king. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. Shout out Australian Psych Rock. Okay. Anyway, too late. Don't have time.

Yeah. I mean, next weekend, you know, maybe. Can sample the goods this weekend on streaming and then yeah we'll see come back if it if it's bad and tickets are depressed i may fuck it i may just for the good of the show take my zoom recorder to coachella and just bring back some kind of audio package of me at coachella that would be amazing confused as shit the people demand it yeah all right we'll have to crowdfund it we'll see we got a few days to figure it out all right so we just wanted to check in on a

couple stories around the police obviously there is another horrifying instance of police murdering an unarmed black man patrick loyola in Grand Rapids, this time on camera. So there might actually be some justice. But in case you saw the press conference with the mayor giving the concerned body language and the looking away and like, you know, just the general response to this shit seems to be one bad apple, just a tragic one-off situation. Grand Rapids police have been pulling guns on innocent people for the past five years, like to the point that there have been like many complaints

in 2017 officers searching for a middle-aged woman wanted for a stabbing instead, handcuffed an 11-year-old girl at gunpoint while she was just leaving a house. Those officers were not disciplined. Months before that, Grand Rapids officers held five innocent teenagers at gunpoint. 2020 local outlets reported an officer was suspended for two days after shooting a protester in the face with a gas canister. who was automatically treated like a suspect was a person of color the shooting of the protester in the face i want to come back to in a second but yeah it's yeah that's that's that's

the latest hook into being like oh the police are murderous right you know fucking monsters and the this death especially is disturbing in the manner in which it happened it's even this just description spooks me because this officer was on top of him and then shot him in the head on top of him and with the victim face down yeah yeah and but yet we're we're still like dragging our feet to just be like oh god let's let's investigate what happened exactly what was the cop's justification i mean he pulled him over because because of registration being out of date. How does it go from that to shooting someone in the back of the head? Because he was trying to arrest him, I guess.

And he was resisting. And when he, I believe he also was like on top of this guy who was face down. And he was struggling to like, he was like trying to just get out of this position. There's maybe probably having trouble breathing or something the gun comes out and then this guy's just shot in his head um and this is you know just it's like wild too because there were so many other stories in the last week that deserved everyone's attention and then it's like half of it was like still will smith and chris rock talk right yeah and whatever but yeah so that's that get that takes us to this moment today right so

then we have just another aspect of the police that i think is undercovered and that is just how fucking bad they are at their jobs like that they're funded beyond anything that has happened in the history of human civilization when it comes to a police force. And let's just run through the events of the subway shooter arrest. I think this tweet sums it up. If I understand correctly, the subway shooter dropped his weapon, car keys, and a credit card at the scene of the crime, called in his location to an NYPD tip line, chilled at a McDonald's until he got tired of waiting for them to show up and was apprehended by a guy named Zach. That seems to be how it went down. There's, you know, details of that that are backed up by the New York Times. And yeah, I mean, Alec Karakatsanis had a good

thread on this where, you know, I'll just read directly from it, but he was like, you know, much of the debate about cops rightly focuses on their millions of physical and sexual assaults, thousands of murders, rampant overtime, sick leave, fraud, bribery, perjury, high rates of domestic abuse, links to white supremacists, infiltration of left-wing movements, et cetera. But they're also historically incompetent. That's an important detail. Even with greater and greater budgets and technology, unaccountable U.S. police bureaucracies are getting worse and worse at what they say is their core function. And there's this graph about homicide clearance rates from 1965 to 2020, and it's just down, down down down they're just getting worse and worse as it becomes clearer and clearer to them like no you're the thing that you are actually paid for is to just enforce you know property crimes and basically do the the bidding of the ownership class and like clear clearing a homicide that happens between, you know, people who are poor, you know, they that's not what they're there for, basically. private property that like that graph of the homicide clearance rates now i'm sure right in the 60s there was probably like just like we see now there's cops who's like i don't know fuck it just say that fucking guy did it so we can close the case right but there's something

odd though too is i believe between 1965 and 2020 technology also got better too presumably to make it easier for people to solve crimes like it properly. Yet it's still going down. And whether that's a function of the volume of crime, whatever, but I don't think that's really the case because what we're looking at is we have near historic lows for most crime. But even despite that, you know, 11, basically $11 billion budgets and the NYPD and the LAPD

respectively, like they're each hauling in that kind of money. And we still get like this kind of argument from these people that's like, well, they're defunding the police. Right. Yeah. They're not. They're not. is that most of the major U.S. police departments made explicit choices not to test 100,000 rape kits so that they could... Hundreds of thousands of rape kits, yeah.

Hundreds of thousands of rape kits so that they could do homeless arrests and... Drug possession, yeah. Drug possession, Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's from the Alex Karkatsana thread. And yeah, I mean, I think that ties directly back into that homicide rate and the, you know, what what Miles is talking about with like the we have the we have the technology now to like use DNA evidence to stop sexual assault and or at least like stop more of it than has historically ever been possible. Instead of doing that, it's drug possession and homeless arrests, the anti-terrorism task force for the NYPD, while the shooter was

trying to turn himself in by calling the tip line that they had set up. The NYPD terrorism task force was raiding a homeless encampment and arresting unhoused people. I think what's even more damning, right, or not even more damning, but what adds to it is that along with the technology that's gone up, it's so good that regular citizens can have an idea of who a suspect is and then just do the work for the police for them. Like you're saying, they're so busy doing this other shit of just brutalizing the unhoused meanwhile a guy who was doing like a consultation for a security camera installation was like yeah hey that hey yo that's the guy right yo that's the guy and he was telling people yo get the fuck away and it's wild to see that press conference where this regular guy had intervened to save or not save people, but apprehend him.

He was warning other people, stay clear of this guy. This he's going to do something bad. This is the person from the subway fucking tries to stop him, flags down a cop and does the work for that day that the people who needed medical care in the fucking subway stations were mostly being tended to by transit workers yeah and other so there there was an nypd officer during the shooting who told another bystander to call 9-1-1 this is happening right after they made a push to like put more police in the subway system. And like just generally, like broadly the way the story has gone, like there after 2020 and, you know, the protests following the George Floyd video, the there was a conversation about police abolition and that got co-opted by people like Matt Iglesias, basically a lot of the New York Times editorial staff, Washington Post editorial staff who came through and basically said, like, more much as your ideas are, like, nice sounding, we're over here with the adults and we're telling you that more police equals lower crime. And so show me some studies. Can you show me the studies that. Yeah.

And it's it's there. There are studies that say that they're usually provided by the police and like funded by the police. And there are more studies and in fact the academic consensus is the opposite that like investing in police creates a short-term like either uh flatline or slight drop in crime but then eventually over time it goes up because it is fucking poisonous for a community to have the authority figures walking around with guns threatening everyone that's poisonous and then separating families as like one of their primary recourses and also like ignoring the root causes of crime that's like the i think the most fucked

up part of when you have a you know supposed paper of record trying to examine something as complex as crime and only say well according to my friend the fucking cops this is what's going on yeah exactly the end yeah not let's look at crime crime uh you know people are talking about crime let's look at the statistics here are the statistics on crime here are what the police is saying causing crime here Here are what sociologists, psychologists, psychiatrists, people who understand human nature, what they attribute to factors that contribute to somebody going extra legal outside the bounds of the law. These are the factors. Here's what other countries, here's what statistics from other countries where they have gone from not what we have, because again, what we have is

unprecedented in the history of human civilization but from having a front line of armed police force to disarming the police and seeing crime go way down and everything like respond very positively like couple that with uh fucking studies on ubi or people getting supplemental income and the stress that alleviates for them psychologically, the things that they're able to do, the things they don't have to do anymore because they were able to find some source of money to be able to just provide the minimums of food. And then talk to me about human behavior because they're just, that's like, I mean, God, I wish more, like more people were fucking outraged to be like, the fucking, even the people who want to say the places like the New York Times or Washington Post, they're like fucking Fox News.

What Fox News is for conservatives, that's what they do the whole point of that fucking place is to maintain this narrative of police are being good and it's just a couple of bad apples rather than zooming the fuck out and being like this is a bad fucking tree right cut cut it the fuck down and let's find some other solutions because there's plenty of fucking research that says shit that works we're the city of new york is spending three billion dollars short of what most ngos say it would take to stop global hunger for a year right the like that's what we're looking at in terms of the kind what the effects that money has rather than like fucking more apcs for the fucking cops like what did you guys ever hear about that i I think it was Freakonomics. But basically, I think it was related to abortion and when women could have abortions. And I don't know, after Roe v. Wade, the murder rate dropped significantly.

Yeah, it was Greece. I think that's pretty controversial. The science of it? Yeah, their conclusions on that are a little controversial in terms of because yeah no that that fucking blew my mind when i read it too but i i don't know exactly what the controversy is i because i i think like partially people are like it kind of implies eugenics type thing and also people are like that that was also a time when crime across the board was like going way down okay fair enough but as you know someone who's you know like an unwanted

child is an enormous amount of stress and i think when we're talking about like root causes and not having enough money and poverty and all those things contributing it's like yeah for sure yeah yeah and you look at even just now because democrats and congress couldn't even get their shit together to extend the child tax credit exactly that there's our now millions of children are now with the snap of a finger or with the lack of fucking energy or vigor from polit from politicians are millions of kids are now in poverty again yeah because that little bit of money is all it takes to like when someone's on a knife edge to either be in poverty or just out of it being able

to eke out a somewhat normal life but i i also just can't believe the lack of coverage for the way that the police have responded to the idea of defunding the police, which again means like funding the police less and investing in, you know, community solutions, that the police have openly responded to our outrage over their murdering of innocent people by being more brutal, failing to respond when crimes are in progress like that's something that i know was happening because i like know people to whom that has happened like over the course of like two years now that that continues to be a refrain where the police like yeah sorry we were defunded and when actually actuality

they've continued to be funded at levels like unprecedented in the history of human civilization. There's been no restraint added to their tactics. They've continued to murder unarmed men and women of color with impunity. And their attitude seems to be that they're at war with the people who they're policing now more than ever because the people who are there policing dared criticize them. Like, how is that not a story that is constantly being covered? Like, it's an unbelievable fucking threat to. Yeah, it's wild when you have throughout all this.

Right. yeah it's wild when you have throughout all this right we also have stories like man flight attendants are dealing with the rowdiest motherfuckers on planes than ever before and what did they do some airlines said okay this is the situation we have people who have to deal with the public the flight attendants have to deal with the passengers we found out from the from the flight attendants who have to deal with this that their lives are difficult and more chaotic because they're dealing with rowdy people. How do we turn down the rowdiness from the passengers? The fucking airlines had the wherewithal to say, maybe we serve less alcohol. Because that seems to be getting stimulant. There seems to be some additive factor to the equation that is increasing the chaos that our flight attendants are experiencing when they take to the skies.

I feel like you could extend that to how police work, right? They say, damn, people are fucking turnt up out there. Is the solution more flight attendants? No. They said less alcohol. No, arm the flight attendants, right? With bigger RoboCop flight attendants. AK.

Right. And in this version, right, someone would say, what's making people act this way? They experience severe lack. Yeah. So because of that, that's putting people into mental states or situations of having to survive survive which you're seeing them do things that you call illegal so maybe to do that you turn down the fucking heat that even gets somebody to the point where they're considered a steal or whatever like we're talking like like the kinds of low level crime that the new york times and shit want to act like that's why the fucking whole world is

going down but why not address that because that seems to be the key here but again like any disingenuous attempt at solving a problem it's just going to say well let's just do the thing that benefits us the most yeah we need to be paid more actually right that's the problem we're not paid more to fucking kill people i don't if i if they gave a fuck they would actually be coming about real solutions how to address what causes crime rather than be like, we need more community-based police. Overtime schemes. Yeah. Let's get that overtime.

Sweet, sweet overtime. The bystanders coming through and helping one another, while that sounds like a weird thing to just be like, yeah, you guys are on your own type thing. Looks like it. weird thing to just be like yeah you guys are on your own type thing at this like it at the it first of all it does appear that way even while we're funding uh the nypd like to be the sixth highest funded uh military in the world or whatever it is but there's also like that first of all like anyone who wants to call out a good cop that's like that's great like if there's a if there's a good a good person who is like smart and resourceful and working as a police officer, I want them doing a different job like that is helping the community like or just as an unarmed like person who is trying to help people out. Like like I'm sure that they would be good at fucking helping solve things if they if

there is such a good thing so aren't we supposed to get more unarmed like peacekeepers yeah wasn't that in the conversation i feel like there's no follow-through on those stories like you don't see that and then well it but the thing is there right there's no follow-through on the stories because it it does happen and the results are yeah shit worked right now well that's not that that that doesn't lead because it doesn't bleed right and i think that's where like we have to really ask ourselves so the kinds of stories we engage with like what's actually reflecting our reality and how much are we getting absolutely absolutely head fucked by disingenuous actors who are a in cahoots with the people who like cover up the physical manifestations of the failures of capitalism, the police. eyes of most people in the country that the media and just keep reinforcing this thing which is it's not inequality it's not the fucking police it's not this it's not the real fucking thing and just keep us in this fun house where we look at these fucked up versions of our realities but so many

people are unable to arrive at the conclusion because they're just served this distorted shit over and over and i get it repetition becomes reality there's so many people who think everything's so fucked up everywhere and it like on an emotional level yeah i'm not gonna argue with that there's a lot of suffering out there but like with when these very opportunistic stories come out which are trying to like keep progress from occurring or to take back the gains of like progressive like lawmakers who are trying to say like we're incarcerating too many people that's just when it i don't know we're just we just look at an increasingly fucked up untenable situation and yeah my desire is for us to really be able to more people to be able to really look at this and kind of think of like what where our part is in this whole equation yeah and we've

talked before about that ug in oregon i think it was like community police force that was like basically there to help people who are having started out with like trying to help people who are having bad drug experiences but then it became like we're just here to you know if you need somebody and you don't want that somebody to come in with a gun pointed at you, then like, that's what we're here for. And like the profiles you read of them, the stuff that they're doing is just things that anyone can do if they're just patient and willing to listen and like learn what is happening in the situation, which it sounds like is what is working in this subway shooter thing. It's like, okay, well, I'm, you know, I may have some CPR training and there's a person who's bleeding right there. So I'm going to put that training into effect or, you know, Zach coming through and just being

like, that's the person from all those news bulletins. I'm going to bring attention to the fact that that's who that is. Yeah. Yeah. It's other side, that militarized police forces do not enhance public safety or reduce crime at all. The only thing militarized police forces do is fuck up their reputation in the public.

That's all it is. They can't even point to the fact that it's like, well, yeah, when we send these people out who look like fucking SEAL Team 6 to go bust a fucking meth dealer or something that that's not that that's bringing crime down. It isn't. Yeah. There's this other story, J.M., hit us with about the police real quick that I got. I got to touch on because it's right.

They keep doing things where when they see themselves, where somebody taking a video of them, rather than being like, well, that's their right, you know, we work for them. Instead of doing that, they start playing copyrighted music as loud as they can, because somebody told them that that will get, that will make it so the video can't be posted on social media. So, uninherently, like, trying to, it's like them wiping their prints like it's a it's a thing a guilty person does like trying to like fuck with the evidence of their wrongdoing like right off the bat which just uninherently creepy and like menacing thing to do there's a an example from a couple weeks back where a guy was trying to access body cam footage at a Beverly Hills police station and filming the encounter on Instagram. And the cop he was dealing with whipped out his phone and started playing Sublime, the notorious pro-police band Sublime.

And then that same police department previously did something similar with In My Life, the Beatles song, the like really heartfelt Beatles song. That's hilarious. And then there was one that went viral last June where a cop started playing Taylor Swift, which completely backfired. The clip promptly went viral, was uploaded to YouTube where it is still available now and has been viewed millions of times. There's also like a week ago, cops pulled up to a residential street in Santa Ana at 11 o'clock at night while investigating a stolen vehicle and started absolutely blasting a playlist of Disney songs. And the officer on the scene admitted it was to create copyright infringement when one of the people whose children he woke up was a city councilman who he recognized and was like apparently intimidated by and so it was like i'm sorry okay and the guy like made him apologize to all the families like yeah it was wild when that guy came out he's like do you know

who i am like the city council person you yeah no whatever dad whatever like can't tell me what to do this is going to get copy blocked anyway narrator in fact it did not get copyright blocked so this is like the other thing that i i just want to point out about this is these incompetence the most powerful individual actors in our society like individual citizens with the right to use deadly force without consequence, are being run with the integrity and tactical understanding of truth of like an elderly relative who believes like email forwards like that. Right. This whole strategy is based on nothing. It does not work. It has never worked.

YouTube claims you're allowed to use whatever music you want in the background of something. Like if it's just incidental like this. Right. So it doesn't fucking work. And here's a clip of your friend at a bar and you're like, hey, put it on YouTube. Yeah. But it's not actually like loaded into part of like the audio track. The sweepers don't pick it up in that way.

And if they do, the other part is they'll just put a pre-roll ad in front of it because then they'll say oh okay this is actually a beastie boys track we'll just put an ad in front of it so then the beastie boys can monetize it but you can continue well we'll make your police brutality video wildly available widely available we just need to monetize it which is also fucking bizarre land already but yeah that's what they're resorting to assholes in the i watched the taylor swift video which i hadn't seen before but oh my god to just like start that in the middle right like it you know it's like he's he knows what he's doing he's kind of acknowledging it in the moment the person's calling him on it it's just like dude what are you doing how do you think this is going to turn out well for you it's the same thing as

like if a cop like was caught doing something and they started taking off their uniform in front of you while you have them on camera and putting on like a costume and be like i don't know what you're talking about you're like you are trying to you're trying to obscure the facts right now by doing this no i'm just playing uh sublime man i mean where were you in 92 i mean i was beating the fuck out of rodney king in 92 but that's a whole other story that's what the cops would be saying think about the fact that so that taylor swift video was from over a year ago i think it has been taken down only became popular because of how stupid it was and they're still using this tactic like think about the level of you know investigate investigative rigor that they're putting into this which is like their way of being like ha ha

no one can catch us and then like think about how fucking bad they must be at their jobs. Yeah. They just go around and bully poor people. That's all they fucking do. Yeah. I mean, this is like the same shit. Like how long have we known that broken windows policing doesn't work,

work. Apparently, you know, we never knew that because exactly because doing it again. Right. It doesn't matter what the facts say. It's just about these habits that they have. And because on the doing again right it doesn't matter what the facts say it's just about these habits that they have and because on the other side of it they don't actually experience any form of regulating or fallout from their actions like they're just in like the worst

form of being like yes manned into like the worst dumb fucking way of behaving because all they have is positive reinforcement for every dumb fucking idea they have and you're left with yeah incompetent people who rarely have to answer for their incompetence only furthering their incompetence and the way it's written about in the new york times is that broken windows policing is a tactic used by the nypd in an attempt to bring down crime of all sort so they take them at their word of what the intent is of this thing and not no like follow-up or second sentence fragment where they're like but it obviously doesn't work and is in fact functionally just a way for them to control poor and communities of color yeah the new york times is the fucking cops they're really fucking bad at their jobs like

worse than i could have possibly imagined i mean how do you fucking write any art how are you going to do anything like balanced in terms of journalism and only take like like not be discerning in the kind of cherry-picked evidence or studies are pointed to to like prove your point and in no way try to attempt to explain an issue like as best as your you know abilities can as a journal because you have the abilities like i know i've read good articles in the new york times like you guys can You guys are good writers and you employ a lot of really smart journalists, but I don't know what the fuck's going on over there. Right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back

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those two seconds looked like there was a lot of energy there you know i i'm not that interested in like watching video of live music performances personally that's just like not a thing i mean unless you're watching like an actual produced like music like a rock documentary or concert documentary but yeah yeah yeah phone footage of a live show not gonna kind of work but i mean the wildest thing was to see uh like leonardo dicaprio with like just completely masked up like like blowing through there like some ghost like oh wow it's just being like i'm here but you'll never see my face and i'm vaping but the yeah he he had a mask on that like covered up most of his face it looked like one of those uh those uh fencing like masks so

you got some tickets you're trying to unload, Jack? Yeah, I'm just saying it looks tight and people should maybe think about hitting me up on Twitter. DMs are open and this weekend, second weekend is supposed to be the best. So just check it out. So that's been Coachella.

So Jack has been to this article where they were talking about Coachella continues to be at the bleeding edge of capitalist bullshit. And there's like some good points in there. I just think they're a little bit dismissive of like how potent like this this festival and this ideal is. is, you know, they highlight the barges full of garbage and like months of water supply being sucked out of a very delicate ecosystem in single weekends. This year, there's an NFT spin on it, where you're given an NFT desert flower seed, and then you get to sit back and watch it bloom.

And if you get one of the six rare desert flowers, if that's what your NFT blooms into, you get like, I don't know, like the big stuffed animal or some shit. I don't know. You get insulin. What's that? So do you get insulin? Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. But it truly feels like the NFT market is just evolving into a elementary school carnival. Oh, yeah.

And the people who keep hawking them cannot read the room ever. Cody Ziegler pointed out this thing that there was like an NFT, like a bored ape yacht club thing that was supposed to be in like in like sort of coincide with 420 and like weed justice for black people. But as anft and you're like this is all bad like this is so has completely no awareness at all around what anyone thinks of this or even what the imagery is of like putting an ape with like the context of like black people are incarcerated because of like weed charges um anyway it's just just that that ball keeps rolling steadily. its founders as a synthesis of 90s music festivals burning man and quote the 60s era longing for a new world which three days in the desert helps satisfy and i just thought that was like to be dismissive of that is a mistake that's like so specific and clear and it was so effective with the baby boomers you know they had like all these

revolutionary impulses and like they took that and it with the case of coachella they give it a fun like pretty release valve that's neatly contained in the middle of the desert doesn't actually have any impact and in fact enriches american express or whoever the corporate sponsors are but like woodstock was a music festival conceived by fifth avenue like admin and like that history is like only slowly like trickled out but any sort of idealism of the 60s like got turned into just like advertising aesthetic basically and the people who got rich off of that aesthetic are in the business of making sure that like you understand it's just an aesthetic that is like fun to visit every once in a while and you know it's created the current world like the what what happened with the 60s and like i highly recommend uh the electric kool-aid acid tests the tracking of the

merry pranksters and like the lsd movement that sprung up around like the grateful dead and ken kesey and like that just kind of falling apart but i don't know like we like that that's very that's very potent to be like yeah no we just like create this little pop-up shop disneyland for people where we make beautiful advertisement versions of the issues you care about. You get to take home a souvenir. You get to take pictures there that put you in an environment where it seems like you're actually engaging with the thing. And then you're done. And like that, you can go back to the big loneliness, as someone recently called it when talking about Reese's eggs. And I just think it's important to recognize that like that group that like started out with those idealistic impulses are now the group that's like funding or that's fueling like QAnon and the rise of Donald Trump

and shit. So like we have an opportunity to not do that with a lot of the like energy around social justice and social movements. But I think it's important that people like recognize that this is somewhat insidious when it's converted into just an ad for American Express that you participate in creating on your Instagram feed. But you're saying more than that, the insidious nature is to give people this sort of well-coordinated distraction to just kind of take a little wind out of the sails. So you're like, yeah, I'm going to blow some steam off at Coachella. Then I can go back to toiling and not really getting the itch.

Like even you referenced this line of saying, like to spend three days in like a world that, three days in a new world, longing for a new world, which three days in the desert helps satisfy, to sort of subdue the longing for the new world yeah and you associate it with that like suddenly your idea for like a socialist society or like community where you can like be part of a community with other people and like be outdoors in outdoor spaces suddenly that's something you associate with like a trip to the desert for three days

instead of something that you like work with your uh like the people in your community to accomplish uh in your community like it becomes just a part of disneyland of like this like simulacrum of like an idealistic society that actually is contained by american express like the like try to imagine hearing that like a revolution rose up on the coachella campgrounds like like it's it's impossible because it's so carefully tailored there's also a new yorker article that like follows around the guy who created coachella and you you know, he's just trying to make money. But like the the thing that was the scariest moment for him in the history of the festival was when like people figured out how to clone the bracelets and like they had a gate crashing issue. Right.

Like it's that's how carefully contained it is. Well, I mean, I think everyone's so fucked up there. I don't know what they're bringing back with them at the end of it but uh they may be subdued by the amount of drugs either way but yeah it's fine like i don't i don't mean to like i i also don't look down on anyone going to coachella and like going and getting fucked up in the desert and like around music they love i just think it's i don't know i think right the packaging of it and the engaging with it like it's not just merely that you're going to a music festival there are other people who

are trying to do a lot of marketing normalizing etc like it's it's not it's not it's not as i guess it's not as what it appears to maybe on the consumer side versus what you know companies like you're mentioning get out of it, too. Like to associate their name with like, oh, check out the like Pepsi Co water filling like station. And now you're like, oh, yeah, the water filling thing from the company that also sucks drinking water out of the fucking earth. Like that sort of mixed signaling, essentially. Yeah, I don't't know it just it does it feels you know the whole thesis of our show is that there's this collective unconscious

and that like people are smarter than than the mainstream like media apparatus like often gives them credit for and i think like all of this shit matters like the the messages we get from the fact that oh yeah like the richest family in germany are like nazi billionaires the coachella is like taking all the things that are actually like serious good beautiful ideas that we should be thinking about incorporating into our daily lives and like turn them into a aesthetic that like you, you know, get to bathe in on Instagram for a couple of days and then like move on from. Like, I think all that stuff is has an impact that is what has kept people advocating, like, you know, not advocating for their best interest for the past like 50 60

years basically yeah i mean i wonder if the difference is right because at least boomers and gen xers they were able to benefit from an economy that began to subdue a lot of those revolutionary impulses right yeah because like especially with the, especially with the eighties, we're like, Oh, you're yuppies now you sold out or whatever. And it's like, no, I'm now a guy I'm actually have access to wealth, but millennials and younger, we're not, we're not following that same path. So I think there, I'm, I'm, I'm curious how, like what,

what has to happen where you have to kind of really take the, to subdue the urges that are so many young people feel now around like saying like dude i'm completely disillusioned by my lack of opportunity like i'm in fact i've become nihilistic yeah where you know how do you how do you like turn that person into like a good you know target shopping consumer for life type person especially when they don't even have the money to do stuff with in the first place. I mean, I think maybe that's like the weird moment that we're in, too, is like that process is a little bit slowing down because of the massive amounts of inequality. both as someone from outside the country, but also somebody who used to report for Bloomberg?

Where do you kind of fall on this whole moment in American idealism, I guess? I'm extremely worried about, well, particularly what's going on in America, the polemic, but also, and I mean, I write about that in a book, you know, when I started reporting for Bloomberg News in 2011 on this team, it was literally the last week of November of 2011 when Zuccotti Park, when Occupy Wall Street was forcibly removed overnight. It was the beginning of the debate of the 1% versus the 99%,

or now it's transformed into the 0.1% versus the 99.9%. And that, you know, the bifurcation of society and the, you know, afterwards came Piketty, of course, who took that to the next level and also gave the historical context. But it's only gotten worse in recent years. And I'm deeply concerned for the future of America. I'm very concerned for the future of Europe as well,

because it has similar problems, you know, in terms of the incredible inequality of wealth and the haves and the have-nots, you know, is also undermining, you know, the fabric of Europe and the European Union, as it is in the United States, in terms of spending on political capital, political power, the shaping of American capitalism.

We started off this episode talking about Earth Day, and scientists saying, oh, it's only going to be two degrees, you know, in the next century. The problem of wealth inequality at one hand and climate change at the other, which very much go hand in hand. You know, I'm really sorry,

but I'm worried that it's already, you know, it's too late, you know. It's that we're on're you know we're on the on on the precipice of day of decades of disaster and war and troubles and and you know i don't know i'm very concerned for the state of the world sorry to leave you guys with this no but i mean yeah yeah i think it's something we all feel because it's yeah there's the rigidity of it all when we're seeing that the way that the powers that be or the wealthy choose to solve problems actually exacerbate the existing problems. And they can't see that terrible feedback loop that, you know, I think that's why a lot of people are like, well, I guess the wheels have to completely fall off for people to figure it out.

But can that happen? Or on the other side of it, you even see people how they're even saying like, well, you know what, we'll spend our way out of climate change. We'll build and innovate our way out of climate change. And we'll just spend more money and experiment more rather than just doing the very simple thing, which is like, begin to switch to renewable sources of energy. and really have and think of like what the amount of you know carbon output that certain industries are emitting every year but rather than doing that it's like no we'll just keep doing this and like we do if a problem comes up we'll just spend money to try and figure it out but at that point i just feel like the problems are be insurmountable yeah exactly where no amount of money can be spent to like i don't know have a desalinization plant that could you know like hydrate the entire hemisphere what are we talking about here in that scenario and i think that's what is a little bit disillusioning is that oh we see that the same problem solving mentality is is we're just going

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