The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 227 (Best of 5/23/22-5/27/22)

Episode Date: May 29, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.

That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the

making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.

Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant stand-up comedian who you've seen on MTV, Comedy Central, NBC, True TV, E! Fuse, and Quibi. If you've just been alive, not living under a rock since Quibi launched and the world wobbled on its axis. She's the host of one of my new favorite podcasts, our sister podcast, Dear Owen Wilson, in which she brings on a comedian to read a note to their childhood,

or not childhood necessarily, but just celebrity obsession, based on her letter to Owen Wilson from when she was a kid. She's one of your favorites, one of our favorites. It's Blair Saki! Hey, Blair! Oh, my God. What up, the daily zeitgeist? What?

Back. Back like you never know. God, what an intro. That brought a tear to my eye. Thank you. It feels so good to be back, like just getting in a warm jacuzzi. Blair was aggressively yawning during the whole intro i have to say not close not even one no fucking way pretending to sleep

what's new blair oh god it's so good to be back for my soul feels revived feels reinvigorated back with my guys. Everything's been pretty good, you know. I feel like we're just barraged every day, especially if you are an internet user with all of the horrors of being alive. But in my personal life, you know, I really can't complain. Okay. I like that. How's the podcast been?

Has it been everything you hoped and more i know you were doing it for a long a long time as a live show oh yeah you know i always wondered when i originally thought of the idea i thought of it as a podcast and i just didn't do it and i became a live show and now it's been really fun we We have three episodes out, but I've had so much fun. Most of the people that have been on have done the live show. And it's so it's exciting that they're excited because they already know sort of what they're in for. Right. Yeah, it's it's very it's a great premise. Great. It's a great show.

It's so fun that we are and other guests don't get any ideas, but we are going to devote a little section of the show to just talk celebrity obsessions. Got a couple. Yeah, we got a couple. I can't. I can't imagine. Honestly, you made this possible for me. So, yeah, thanks for helping me with iHeartRadio because it's a thrill.

Margaret, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Well, I picked the most recent thing I searched was last night was plastic part broken on DeWalt miter saw because I was trying to make shelves and I tried to cut a very acute angle and something broke wood. It definitely was wearing all the right safety equipment. Absolutely. Of course, I would never do otherwise. Fortunately, nothing hit my eyes, which were definitely protected.

And some plastic piece of my saw broke and I have no idea where it comes from. And I'm just like looking at this part of my saw. And I'm like, huh? But I'm trying to be like, where did this come from? Yeah, exactly. What did I break? I have no idea what this thing is. my saw and i'm like huh but trying to be like where did this come from yeah exactly what did i break i have no idea what this thing is and if you search plastic part broken on dewalt miter saw you find the dust extractor because that's what everyone breaks and google saved me is that what

you broke yeah yeah google saved hey google's yeah for six dollar Hey, you know who else saves? JC? We were both on the same wavelength there. Yeah, just want to bring it back, man. We always got to bring it back to Carpenter. Also a Carpenter. Yeah, I know. Thank you. So are you, Margaret, are you a Carpenter? No, no.

I do a ton of different things. And then I realized that everything I do not for work cannot be on a computer because I already do everything else on a computer. And so I do some woodworking and right now I'm trying to like build instruments and shelves. Oh, wow. A bunch of other shit.

Building instruments. Yeah. Like what? Like guitars and shit. Yeah. Um, I, I build some electric guitars out of kits and do some of the woodworking

and the soldering on them. And then, but I also do a bunch of acoustic, like folk instruments. Some of them I build from kits. Some of kits and do some of the woodworking and the soldering on them. But I also do a bunch of acoustic folk instruments. Some of them I build from kits. Some of them I just kind of invent, make up, tie strings to wooden things and try and make them look nice. Okay, where do I get your albums? Where do I hear your albums? Feminazgool.bandcamp.com, actually.

Yeah. Margaret has three separate, very impressive it's yeah it's like oh are you five different people how is that happening but okay so you're an activist you're a luthier as well yeah isn't that the name for a guitar maker i don't know how to pronounce that word yeah or luthier luthier maybe mad english i'm not a good one of that, but I use them in my, in the, in my metal band. Oh, that's amazing. It's mostly metal.

So I, I do a lot of things. Um, the thing that I do that most, the most people listen to my band, that the most people listen to is a all women, black metal band called Femina school. And we play a lot of different instruments in the band.

And I've been increasingly just like making my own instruments for it because why the fuck not? Yeah, indeed. I would say to answer why the fuck not, I don't have the energy. This is a sign of like this is I've heard of this with very various like impressive people that they're the coach of the Indiana Pacers. Rick Adleman. No, not Rick Adleman. Rick Carlisle, like, builds his own golf clubs and is also like a concert pianist and like all the all these various things. And like the the point at which the genius starts building their own equipment

i'm like i'm out that's right too much for me to identify with that's i do like that i i like the like that sort of uh rule that you have like where if so much work is happening on a screen that you also need something off screen and i just realized like even when i play music like i'm looking at a computer screen rather than just like taking my bass and just amplifying it and looking out a window and doing that instead of at a screen oh man okay so i'm gonna yeah i like that thank you margaret i'm gonna take that into practice actually yeah yeah i'll be curious what you come up with uh what is something you think is overrated what do i think is overrated real talk you know what like work i think work is overrated real talk go on i just feel like as a country we're

going through a lot you know and like sometimes we you know we can like ignore work we can ignore everything and how we're feeling about it just to continue to go to work. And, you know, sometimes I'm just like, you know what? Fuck work, yo. Like we need to take care of ourselves first. So maybe that that's off the top. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's how we're raised in America. It is. It is. One mode work. If I take more than a week of vacation my brain starts attacking itself yeah you know oh yeah i took a break i've been taking a break for quite some time and there's all this shame you feel ashamed of yourself just like am i even like worth it yeah and you're like get that damn boot out your mouth yeah get that fucking boot out your mouth

yeah you you're like, we've just been raised with that reflex to be like, if you do anything less than backbreaking work, 48 hours a day, you are nothing. Oh shit. It's not, it's not good.

It's not a good way to think. I mean, I have guilt like that with like immigrant parents, black grandparents, like just thinking of how hard people's lives were from people i descend from and i'm like i'm a fucking comedian podcaster i'm like am i working we're some of the hardest working i feel like uh hustlers like people hustling to make a living out of this industry that just be like you know we don't even want you you know so it's just like

we're working really hard just to make something but But yeah, this year, this year I was like, yo, work is not it. When did you, so did you, would you say you just this year turned a corner where you, you, you yelled at the shitty shift manager in your brain and you're like, man, shut the fuck up. I'm going to take a break when I want to. I love that metaphor. I love, I love that. Like, I, I feel like it happened at the end of 2019. At the end of 2019, I was just absolutely burned out, like, just just could not deal with another thing. But there's all these things going on in your head. Like, if I stop working, am I even alive? Am I real? Like, what do I what does it mean? You know, like it just, I just, and it also just feels like,

especially with what we do, like if you take a break, then do you disappear? Like, will people remember me? You know, am I relevant anymore? And I'm, I'm, I'm glad to report that, like, I've been real quiet for the last, I would say two years and no one's forgotten me. There's been no catastrophic end to my career. If anything, I feel a lot better and I'm coming back with a different relationship to work. One that puts me at the center that values me and my mental health and my wellbeing before, I guess, other people. Straight up. That's exactly. I love that. Yeah. Well, I took two weeks off recently for the first time

i think in my since my honeymoon maybe and my just like my parents reaction was like how wow how are you gonna huh you can do that so like are you bringing your computer down to Guatemala or it's just I'm like okay I know now I'm starting to like see the the mask uh see like who who the shift manager was uh modeled after absolutely yeah right absolutely and you can and you can do that that's the other you're allowed to do that absolutely not just my the fuck are you talking about? And not just my parents, like, a lot of people. Like, a lot of people I know who are just, like, friends, you know? Yeah, we're just so inundated, and we've been inoculated with these shit values of, like, just hustling and shit. Bullshit. We're only now, like, beginning to have, like, real pushback, like, publicly.

Like, that shit is dumb and toxic and doesn't make sense. And it's actually the worst way to, to like prioritize how you experience your physical life like putting that work shit rather than being like how do i maintain like my semblance of peace or happiness first and then try to do it but we don't always have the you know luxury or ability to even take time off and that's why i think it's important hopefully more people are radicalized by that realization and being like, wait, hold up. This is such a fucked up deal. Absolutely.

We need, we need a bet. We need a better way to do this. Absolutely. Cause it's not like the fucking earth stops spinning. Cause somebody fucking took parental leave. You know what I mean? But they have everybody thinking that's how this shit works. Like it's this fucking perpetual motion machine. It's like, if one person stops hustling, parental leave you know what i mean but they have everybody thinking that's how this shit works like

it's this fucking perpetual motion machine it's like if one person stops hustling it's bullshit i'll die what is amy something you think is underrated oh i'm sure you guys have talked about this guy on this show but well first of all arizona iced tea it's delicious it's arizona iced tea season i'm happy to give this corporation more plugs um hey have you guys talked about this guy the ceo who's like no i'm never gonna time it's come up but like we just kind of pushed past it because i didn't know what the fuck the guest was talking about oh i just keep reading about him because he's the the bet i mean he might be the only good billionaire um i don't know he's just like i'm not

gonna make it more than 99 cents i don't care how expensive expensive everything else is he's like i'm really rich how much money do you need and it's like yeah i see all these other companies just like raising their prices on shit because they can and people are gonna pay it right now but it's 99 cents it's just 99 cents and it's delicious. And he's like, I'm never going to change it. I'm really, really wealthy. It actually only cost me seven cents to make a can. So I'm fine with that margin on there.

It's just water and chemicals that we call iced tea. But look, we accept it. I lovingly, I drink soly I would drink so much mucho mango. It tastes nothing like tea. In case the last person to ever try it is listening. It's not, yeah, it's sugar

water, but it's very delightful. It's like sugar water with a tinge of rust. I feel like I'm trying to figure out what it tastes like. Something tastes brewed in there. You know what I mean? It's almost like you're chewing tobacco and drinking juice at the same time.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's this tobacco-y, from-the-earth kind of. Yeah, like you've packed a lip in class in high school, but you can't spit, so you're just going to have to down it with a sip. What if you go like, oh, I love Fruitopia and snus. This guy, his name is so amazing. Don Voltaggio. What?

I thought, yes. Does he look exactly like Guy Fieri or just a little bit? Because that's who I want him to be. I want him to be Guy Fieri, except all his shirts are like in the patterns of Arizona iced tea can dude he wears shorts look at that article I just posted in the chat of him and his like sons who like are very Italian sons like flanking him looking strong look he says when they asked him about the no price change said to me the worst day as a salesman is to go to a retailer and say, hey, by the way, I'm raising the price on that can today. Good for him.

Our point is what you can. Wait, our point is what you want to do. What does that mean? Is have a customer come in and get fair value on a can of tea or juice and then buy other things in your store to offset those costs. Buy other things in your store to offset those costs. There's a true. This is an amazing picture because he seems to be he has his two sons flanking him behind him. And he seems to be his one son on one side of his face and his other son on the other side of his face.

Like, do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because he's not the most symmetrically faced person. You're messed up, Jack. I'm sorry. By the way, it's $1.29 in Canada because that converts to 99 cents American. I'm not going to try and take that from Don Voltaggio. Don Voltaggio, please.

Don Voltaggio, you come to me on the day of my daughters. Soccer game, after which we always drink Arizona iced tea. He also kind of, he just directly calls out his, you know, fellow CEOs. Right. Yeah, owners of corporations. Because he's just like, I've been doing this for a long time, and these guys are doing it like i've never seen before raising prices like and it's just yeah we've been talking about that non-stop it's cool to see somebody such an iconic brand to just come through and be like yeah yeah no that's what they know i'm

good here i'm fine here yeah no need no need to make line go up three about three billion dollars like he's like i'm old i don't know yeah yeah how much money do you Three billion dollars. Like, he's like, I'm old. I don't know. Yeah. How much money do you need? And his sons are chiseled from granite. I mean, he's got it all. Look at those hairlines.

I mean, God damn. I bet he does have a fresco of himself as a baby. As a baby? Don Voltaggio. But, like, it's like that scene, what is it, with David and, like, and him and God's fingers are touching. Yeah, Arizona. Arizona can't. Arizona iced tea in between. Yeah, absolutely. Genius.

Oh, look at Don. I mean, it is good to see that. Unless, look, if anybody knows, is Don Voltaggio on some bullshit, please ruin it for us if that's the case. But otherwise, yeah, can't get mad at somebody who's very steadfast. Like, I don't need to raise prices. Yeah. And also don't ruin it because honestly, like. We're good.

We need one. We need one good one. We need some good news. Now, if you talk about John Farolito, the co-founder. Farolito and Voltaggio. The great schism. Yeah. You've seen the Renaissance painting about that breakup.

It was pretty ugly, but there is some weird shit in that scene. Voltaggio got painted in hell by one of the Renaissance masters. All right. Let's take a quick break. We will come back and talk about the news. and talk about the news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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And they had to subdue one guy and then like threatening to tase another person. Yeah. It's just one of the, this thing has, it's gotten grim on so many levels. Just the more you learn about it. Again, like Valde, like many places in this country, they spent about 40% of their municipal budget on law enforcement for what? This massacre has, again, exposed police, not as heroes, but as cowards with guns that would rather engage unarmed people with their backs turned than to serve and protect. And I think there's a lot, I feel like we need to tear down a few myths because a lot of it was, we just saw it so clearly in front of us, right?

First, we see parents screaming at the armed police to engage somebody who's an active, like he's murdering people, right? Yeah. The police have their back to the school and are facing out like they're fucking bouncers. Exactly. Like they're protecting him. Right. like they're fucking bouncers. Exactly. Like they're protecting him.

Right. And we have to first accept, again, that there's a legal precedent that says basically police are not obligated to protect us. That's real. There's a series of Supreme Court decisions that have basically made it

so these people are legally protected killers that also have coward's rights. First, there's a case, Deshaney v. Winnebago County of 1989. In this case, there was a young boy who was being abused by his father, and the county social services knew about it, but they did nothing to remove the child until he ended up in a vegetative state. And then the court ruled that the state didn't have a special obligation to protect a citizen against harms it did not create. In 2005, Jessica Gonzalez sued Castle Rock, Colorado, because she had a restraining order against her husband, and he kidnapped three of her kids. She called the police and said, I have a restraining order against this person. They have three of my kids. They said, well,

why don't you call us later? Maybe he brought them home. He killed the kids and then opened fire in a police department and then was killed by police. In that decision, the Supreme Court said, Antonin Scalia argued that, a well-established tradition of police discretion has long coexisted

with apparently mandatory arrest statutes. Essentially saying, it's authoritarian. It's up to them. You live in a police state. You can't question their judgment. They're the ones who are allowed live in a police state. You can't question their judgment. They're the ones who are allowed to use guns and you're not allowed to question their judgment when they when they use them or choose not to. It doesn't matter.

They just have like absolute power. Right. So what is the theorized reasoning for why they were keeping parents out? I think. Well, I don't know. I mean, it sounds like they were saying they're waiting for backup. They're trying to create a perimeter

around the crime scene. When the person has an automatic assault rifle, I think the standard operating order for the police that aren't like an armed tactical unit is to wait for backup. Because it'll just be like more carnage. You know, I have to I have to admit, I have been so focused on the idea that like guns are the problem here and the right is throwing up all these other arguments that are distractions from what the real issue is that now that the talk has turned

to the cops at the at the beginning i was kind of not paying attention to that because even that felt like a distraction so i'm a little bit even though this is all happened in like rapidly i'm i i'm a little bit late to the news of this so before the show i was like trying to quickly kind of catch up on this story so i feel like i i don't know all the details of this. So before the show, I was like trying to quickly kind of catch up on this story. So I feel like I, I don't know all the details of this, although the details of this keep changing too. Right. So,

so if, if I'm understanding correctly, what has come out, like at first the story was that the cops had shot him, right? And that he was wearing armor. Like border officer. But then did it come out that he wasn't actually wearing armor?

They said he had a tactical vest, but like they don't believe they had any hardened like plates in it. That would have been the actual bullet stopping plates. But even more than that, like I think the other thing that's coming out is that it took 40 minutes. Right. Of this person in the building. And at the press conference that Beto O'Rourke interrupted, the sheriff there was saying how the gunman had gone to the school and a resource officer engaged him but didn't exchange gunfire. So I don't know what that engagement was exactly. Like there's so many of these weird things were like, but then what was that? then what was that? And again, I think that's why this feels like just sort of it's like an omni-crisis in this one thing that we're having to realize all at the same time. Like if you look at the church parishioners in California, they had the bravery to stop the gunmen themselves in that mass shooting recently. The teachers in this instinct had to be unarmed surrogates

for the police in the school while they threatened you know parents with tasers who could no longer just sit idly by while their children were being killed then if you think about the gunman in brooklyn he tipped the police off himself to where he was at and a member of the community apprehended him so that was after yeah that was after the they had just expanded a number of police on on the subway like huge budget to do that. And when the shooting and like gas attack like happened to the subway, a cop like turned and told somebody to call 911. Like that's and like they didn't catch him, even though he was just like walking around, dropped his wallet and shit. Went to Cat's Deli, I think. And this this the shooter in Texas, too.

He after shooting his grandmother, he posted it on Facebook and he said he's going to shoot in elementary school. I don't know who was looking at his Facebook, but, I mean, he was posting it, too. Yeah. Like, I don't, yeah, that one I have trouble with because I don't know how many times a day shit like that happens. Just the way the internet who, you know, was put in charge of like holding the parents back like that. I do think the lasting point here is that the fact that this 18-year-old could arm himself not the heroes that like movies have been telling us they are and that the right wants to believe they are. Yeah, I mean, this is I don't I'm not I'm not trying to defend these cops. I don't know anything about them. But I know this is a tiny this was like a 15000 people town. Like I would imagine that if the kindest thing I can say is I suspect these cops were not prepared for this situation. And so they should have just stood aside because they didn't, they definitely didn't help things. But I think that's, I think that goes to a larger fact about what, what is policing even, right? If, if we're in a situation like this, right? So we're those

parents who were screaming outside the school while they knew their kids were in imminent danger and they stood idly by that's, that's all of us in this country right now. And I think we need to recognize that. A horrific disaster unfolds in front of our eyes. And we've been told since birth that there are people that will intervene to protect us, yet they look on as if they are powerless. That really fucked me up to feel that powerless, to know how severe the situation is. And you're screaming at the people who you've been told are going to protect you. But these parents have been rendered completely powerless by a system that is only interested in maintaining like a very rigid power structure.

So those police are also our politicians telling us all the time what good they do and how much worse things would be if the situation changed, despite people constantly asking for something different. We scream just like the parents do. We scream for body autonomy, for equality, for kids to not have to have equivalent experience as like combat veterans. And they're more interested in crowd control, more interested in optics rather than tangible outcomes. And we've been fed this really poised, these poisonous myths about electoral, like electoralism and crime. And that accurate taste that we all experience like this, like everyone is there, like something is so fucked up. Right. And some people can put

their finger on it. Others can't, but that's our bodies no longer being able to accept these myths because we're looking at this. We look at results over and over. They say, vote and I will curb police violence. Nothing. Vote and I will protect our LGBTQ youth. Nothing. Vote and I will make life easier. Nothing. So we need to stop asking to make it make sense because I feel like that's the most dominant take I see on Twitter. Why is how is this make it make sense? And I think the thing is, we have to accept that it does not make sense and will not make sense. The only sense this situation makes is that we live under a horrifyingly cruel system

of governance and finance. And the way these two things work together typically render people powerless when they're trying to protect themselves or further their own interests, especially when that butts up against whatever gigantic entity there is. So I think at the end of the day, some people may be gullible enough due to their own privileged lives to think that nothing needs to change. And they're like, it's only these like little adjustments that have to be made. But I think many people are really starting to see how backwards and absurd this whole situation is. And we can't just let this pass.

Yeah. What we need is to understand that the challenge of our time is to try and right the ship. Because they've, look, we can't keep acting like these people know what they're doing we like how many more kids need to die how many more how many more like marginalized people need to be victimized and turned into the like true villains of society when we know it's not trans people that are taking people's jobs or why the factory shut down because like it's corporation did what was best for their bottom line. But we still allow these narratives to exist and poison people's nines. And we're just constantly asking for just the smallest things to help make our lives

better. But you look at the Senate, they care more about their ancient racist traditions, the filibuster, more than children being murdered in mass. We used to be able to go to lunch together yeah but you know what it is i think that level of pathology needs to be something every person in america needs to accept that's what we're looking at they they allow they allow people they allow we allow children to be killed in this country yeah like this has added a layer of urgency for me because it's just another example of a story that is just like okay like we this system is broken the the populace is bleeding like the it is a poisonous like

system that is just like spewing more poison and into the system and the longer that we hang around and in this system where you see images like a cop protecting a schoolhouse with his back to the schoolhouse while a school shooting is taking place and like, you know, pushing, pushing the parents back. Like the longer that happens, the more likely it is that fascists are going to consolidate power because they're the only ones who are offering an alternative to the mainstream is like you're Donald Trump, you are Tucker Carlson. And it's, it won't be a, like a thing where people are like, that is a Republican politician with fascist tendencies. I'm waking up to the fact that the most likely outcome here is open and official fascism in America in the not too distant future, by the time my kids are in high school, because the status quo is no longer viable. Like the, when people run for president, like they are always like change. Like I I'm running as an outsider. That's what resonates with people except for in the case of

Trump, when it was Biden could be like, I'm not Trump, But then Biden being like a old school, like party person and like having this presidency is only going to underline the fact more like, but it was, you know, since 2008, when the financial collapse happened, it's like Obama running on hope and change bait and switch Trump running on America's an apocalypse and I alone can fix it and racism bait and switch Trump running on America is an apocalypse and I alone can fix it and racism bait and switch. And then Biden just being like, I'm not Trump. And, but somehow bait and switch that too. And, and yeah. And also, you know, here are some things that I will do. And then bait and switch not doing anything. And like, it just, it feels like the people are calling out for an alternative so desperately. But the the entire U.S. immune system is designed to kill off leftism and any threat to business and commerce and like corporate rule, which is what we have now. Like that, the thing that is happening right now with guns is not because of the people, you know, who live in rural communities and talk about like,

they'll take my guns out of my cold, dead hands and shit like that. It's because of corporations that manufacture guns like that's, that's what we're in. And the Democrats are complicit in that too. The U.S. immune system is designed to kill off leftism, any threat to business. It is not designed to stop fascism. Fascism is good for business. That's why the closest America came to being overtly, openly fascist was when there was something called literally the business plot organized by the heads of industry, and they tried to take over the government from FDR before he could get into World War II. doesn't find a way to rise up in the next you know handful of years we will be in a fascist dictatorship like in in the not too distant future like that's that that feels inevitable to me at this point like based on just what we're seeing the you know with just this the current system and its death rattle and like everybody openly seeing it for what it is and then nobody having anything to do like i google like i was just like i did it like i knew i wasn't gonna find anything i was

like what do i do with anger in america like what and then it was like here's how to deal with anger like jog walk out take a walk outside like we just like you journaled yeah it's just like we individualize it and turn it into like our problem i've heard it from you know young people who we work with who are like you know i'm watching the news i'm like feeling like shit because that's the least i can do and it's like no it's not your fault it's not our fault we are like in the fucking matrix like we really are like in a system that is fully built like down to a cellular level to lie to you about what is possible and we need to like find ways to educate ourselves about what is possible and like build like from the ground up a fucking imagination like a revolutionary imagination because it's

like we we don't have we just like don't have it in america we have no idea what a third party like what even when we're saying like we need a alternative that's not fascism i don't think anybody like even i certainly don't like have a concrete idea of like what that would look like we have to like create that future and like build that imagination i think we're so propagandized to be afraid of it right because of the cold war and because of just because of the right wing and because of so many things that it's like it would have to be cloaked in entirely new language although like if you you know every, people truly want Medicare for all, as long as it is presented in a way that, you know, doesn't frighten them.

Yeah. I have a question that's a little bit of a tangent. So I spend too much time on Twitter and you know, Twitter is like a lovely place where people are reasonable. And maybe it's because I spend time on on twitter and maybe that's not an accurate reflection of how a lot of people are but i i have this notion of half of the country and it feels like no matter what awful thing happens like you present like look this is going to happen or this you know this horrible thing is happening to these people this horrible thing is happening to these people and there's thing is happening to these people. And there's, you know, a segment of the population

that's like, fine, I don't give a fuck. Fine. I don't care. And I don't know if it's like, they're in it for the loves or they're truly heartless or they want other people to be in dire straits. So I think it feels like 19 children died. Fine. I don't care. That's their attitude. And so my question for you is, do you think there really are people for whom 19 kids dying, they just don't care? Or is that like a posture do for for them and their family that's brutal like something inside of you has died but like we are so disproportionately inundated with those people's opinions and also like straw man version of those people's opinions from like the democrats saying that's how the republicans think or the republicans saying that the democrats think nobody is like pointing out just like over 60 percent of people like want these very concrete steps to be taken and like we we are all alike in the sense that like this shit was fucking unacceptable and like completely horrifying like that's i don't know

like that that's kind of how i'm feeling is that there is a lot of noise that is designed to mask the fact that we are the majority of us want the same things in a lot of cases. That's gun control. Most people don't want to go broke being sick. Yes. And right. And it's and but I'm saying that's the reason like why the political party has done so such a good job is to label some of these things with certain like thought killing cliche labels. Like just call that socialism. It ends the conversation for someone in their mind right there. the like how like insidious the like lack of revolutionary imagination is like the thing that always pops in my head when i think of like a revolutionary like leftism in america is like the scene in forrest gump in washington dc because it's like the ultimate boomer revision of history and like the hippies are just like marching around in lines that don't go anywhere and like everyone is just a cartoon like the black panthers are a cartoon like at one point they're like shouting at the top of their lungs at forrest gump like political platitudes

and then he leaves and they keep shouting at the empty space where he was because they're just like i don't know what fucking robert zemeckis's uh insane theory was but i think it was like that they're just like animatronic like anger robots that's like what he made them in his vision of that but that is like the boomers really fucked us man. They really took their idea of revolution and then turned it into a thing that is like, well, that's how unrealistic people think. And fortunately, they are going away. But we really need to excavate that.

That shit needs to be cut out. It is a fucking cancer. The idea that you can't have revolutionary activism in the united states is is the status quo belief and like we we need to address that right and i think people don't realize is the relative prosperity they experienced as a generation helped cool that those jets a little bit you know yeah and the relative experiencing abundance and now you're dealing with generations who have nothing yeah and those tricks don't work because you can't subdue us there's no there isn't prosperity so how are you going to subdue people they're only going to be more focused on their lack of things and what happens is that creates the space for

someone to come in and give you a fucked up explanation for what that is hey it's these people hey it's these people hey it's this and that's the sort of knife's edge that we're on they're fully going to buy into one version or we have to or do the uncomfortable thing and realize just how like how much of a failed system we have honestly that's why every other country looks on and is like, what is going on with y'all over there? Like, the thing that I was reading this morning was, like, somebody was just, like, one of the greatest culture shocks when I arrived in the U.S. was the blind veneration of police. After years and years of living here and reading about this country, I now realize that it's the structural pillar of white supremacy. Here I'm reading about this country. I now realize that it's the structural pillar of white supremacy that, yeah, like that is the like there are so many things that a very straightforward question about, like, why does this seem to be an American problem? And I'll play this because this is a very straightforward answer.

But the the way Ted Cruz freaks out, I think, is instructive. In sets of parents who are never going to get to kiss their child goodnight again. Is this the moment to reform gun laws? Oh, word. You know, it's easy to go to politics. Oh, shut the fuck up. You're a politician. I get that that's where the media likes to go. No, it's not. It's where many of the people we've talked to here like to go.

The proposals from Democrats in the media, inevitably, when some violent psychopath murders people. A violent psychopath who's able to get a weapon so easily. 18-year-old with two AR-15s. If you want to stop violent crime, the proposals the Democrats have, none of them would have stopped this. But why does this only happen in your country? I really think that's what many people around the world just, they cannot fathom. Why only in America? Why is this American exceptionalism so awful?

You know, I'm sorry you think American exceptionalism is awful. I think this aspect of it. You've got your political agenda. God love you. Senator, it's not. I just want to understand why you do not think that guns are the problem. Why is this just an American problem? It is just an American problem. He goes on, he just, you know, says you're a propagandist nonsense.

And again, I hate him so much. This is someone who's asked a question, couldn't offer you a solution. No. I think that's what people need to really hone in on when politicians speak. Seldom are they actually offering a tangible solution. No, I think that's what people need to really hone in on when politicians speak. Seldom are they actually offering a tangible solution. And that should be that should set alarms off in your head as to where the like what the direction is of the country, because the people

who are making the laws, they don't care about solving anything. Biden tweeted as a nation, we must ask when in God's name will we stand up to the gun lobby when in god's name will we do what needs to be done i'm sick and tired of it we have to act what what are you sick and tired of what like what name it name it and what are you that like is it just their party is it like say what needs to happen? Like, are the lobbyists visiting me? No, they visit y'all. Their job is to interact with politicians.

So why are you asking us? You need to figure that out on your own. And that's an empty gesture to just say, when are we going to stop? Say something. You tell me, motherfucker. You tell me. It's like hot potato potato they're all just turning around and right and laura trump on fox news goes on they can't they can't say anything that's of that makes any sense so she's just gonna go off and talk about how we don't have two parent homes anymore it's not guns it's not it's not

any it's not inequality it's it's the other shit across the board at things like the fact that you know we have the dissolution of the family in so many respects we have fatherless children on the rise in america we have the loss of religion in so many aspects of our country where it was a foundation of our country at one time. You can't discount the rise of social media and the role that that has played in things like this. And then the mental health aspect of this obviously has to be a focus. OK, I'm not even going to let her finish that because Greg Abbott slashed mental health budgets in the state. So there's that's moot. There's no don't

don't talk about mental health when it's never even been anything you've actually advocated for. It's all emptiness. Right. And again, this is how this is the explanation. This is a group of people who are people on Fox News are assuredly horrified to hear that 19 children killed and two adults. Right. And then you have someone come in and not say it's not guns it's not the fact that you know we have like places like 4chan or other things where people can get radicalized or share weird ideas and things like that it's that we don't have god yeah you know what i mean like we need a theocracy that's what that's the solution that's being handed out is a theocracy that's the only solution that has its own channel you know

because the other channels the the other channels are all part of the just speak around the truth look look the other way like so right that that's what i'm saying like that is why the inability for anybody to just like say what it is from anywhere except, you know, a fascist perspective like is what is making me so worried that like this is where it's headed because it's like every it's all just corporate corporate like bullshit and inaction. And then that fascism, that theocracy bullshit. Right. They're filling the knowledge gap with fascist talking points. Yeah. Because there are people asking, what, what, what do we do? Yeah. Because left or right. If you're, if you're not wealthy, you're, you're being like, man, shit's kind of fucked up. Yeah. But if on one channel, it's like, it's theocracy. That's all we need. We need more God. We need more guns. We need more God. We need more guns.

They're saying something, although it's not really something they're, I mean, they will legislate on it eventually, as they are a lot of other things. But yeah, you flip the switch to like CNN or whatever. They can't say, they can't advocate for anything different. And I think that shows you the direction it's going, because the Republicans on the right, they don't have the numbers to win like actual just straight up majorities of things. have the numbers to win like like actual just straight up majorities of things so they have to defeat the process of even having like a democratic system of elections even though that's you know arguable debatable whatever to completely just say nah all right we closed the door now we're in charge we got this and these guess what these are all the rules we like to enforce and we'll just be sitting there confused because we're like, we have to find a way.

The signals coming from the media have to offer people something else because it's just the confusion and trying to subdue their outrage. It's not that. That's how we get into an even darker place. Let's take a quick break.

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And, all right. There's a new type of Mountain Dew that I'm very excited about. In other news. Pivot. Pivot is real, y'all. Pivot in like Hakeem Olajuwon down here. Got to pivot in the paint. Playing bully ball down here.

Yeah. Who's the best at pivoting in NBA history? Miles and Jack. Got mad boosties. Yeah, that's true. Check the receipts. With Mountain Dew, mad boosties. Yeah, that's true. Check the receipts. With Mountain Dew, obviously people know this is a Dew home.

This is a Dew house. I was raised on the Dew. Jack was born in the Dew. Yeah. Lives in the Dew. He merely adopted it, Miles. Here's my question. I like to think I know a lot about Mountain Dew.

Amy, you said you've been across this cursed earth and seen many of the flavors. I also drank about four liters a day in high school. Okay. So everybody's got their credentials. Everyone's established as an authority on this. How many flavors of Mountain Dew do you think there are available to an American? Ooh, I'm going to say 20. Okay.

I was going to say 23. Okay. I was going to say 23. I feel like we're short. Like this is all say, like knowing I'm going to lose this game. I think 23, like we got your, I'm just like thinking of like the number of colors I've seen. Right. You got your pink, you got your white, you got your red, you got your blue. And you got classic. Purple.

Purple is the new one that is apparently... Orange. Baja Blast. Baja Blast. You know how many there are? 32. What? There are 32 flavors of Mountain Dew.

This is both psychic and dyslexic. Yeah. Like, I'm feeling 23. It was 32. Well, the numbers were there. And there's like, there's levels to it,

right? There's Mountain Dew that are sold in grocery stores. There's Mountain Dew that you can only get through exclusive partnerships. And there's online only Mountain Dew flavors. Oh shit. So they're like fucking Pokemon. If you had to go, if you want to try one, you know, like you can't get.

I didn't even realize Buffalo Wild Wings has their own fucking flavor. Neither did I. What flavor is it? It's spicy, right? I'm going to get it. It's called Legend. Legend, mate. At Kroger, they have an exclusive.

Exclusive. Called Thrashed Apple. Oh, right. The Dollar General has Maui Burst. Like each place has their own i imagine the buffalo wild wings flavor not being spicy but tasting like blue cheese because it has to accompany the wings right right right right yeah just take it and it's and it's blue also legend if you're winging it I had the there was a Christmas

varietal that was flavored as gingerbread let's not use varietal let's not use wine terms for Mountain Dew that's all I have I will not give you this one he's a sommelier for dew and it actually was better

than I expected it to be I did feel sick after I drank it, but it was still that was probably just the fact that I drank a Mountain Dew as a 41-year-old man. Was it candy cane-y or apple cider-y? No, no. It was

gingerbread. Oh, disgusting. Right? Yeah. I have seen those. I like the packaging. Absolutely. i got it as a bit for i got i got one jamie loftus had one with me and we were both like that's that is what that would taste like uh if if they made a gingerbread mountain dew bad but like not not as bad as you would think absolute chemical there's a flamin hot Cheetos one, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Major melon is if you can just get past any thoughts of chapstick, major melon is really good. What? Like you're, it is very watermelony like watermelon candy, but there is like a, like finish to the flavor amy uh a finish a nutty oaky uh whetstone uh no it finishes with a waxy like moment there's just a moment

what are the undertones jack it's all it's one it's one big undertone of just melon wait when you say that it's chapped like you mean like sort of like vaseline like petroleum It's one big undertone of just melon. Wait, when you say that it's chapped, you mean sort of like Vaseline, like petroleum jelly? I don't know if I just made it up. Lipsmackers, I think, is maybe what you're talking about. Yeah, lipsmackers. Have you ever used watermelon chapstick, Miles? No, I was in a CarMax house.

That's the worst. I was a minor as a child eating some watermelon chapstick, and this might just be hardwired into my brain. Yeah, CarMax, yeah, we always had it. All my memories are my dad pulling out his pocket and unscrewing it, and there's so much shit stuck on the cap. Like, is this medicine yeah but you know i was that kid with like the chap ring around like i would look like crazy

and then yeah they're like you have to use this it's it is medicine you look crazy you can't put watermelon lip smackers yeah your face wound just like on an outline they're like uh this feels like some kind of clown makeup or something you do yeah i had that dry ass chapped ring yeah couldn't stop sucking on my lips like look as a kid too and i remember constantly being like my my mom would implore me like please just fucking use this and i'm like it hurts too much and i didn't have the patience to to let it work anyway i got past that my lips are less chapped these days but yeah carmex all day i think they're at their best when there is not a specific object a specific food item that they're trying to approximate apparently purple thunder is great i have yet to be able to you know find time to go

to a circle okay that's it that's another thing they seem i don't feel like they have enough of a handle they're no they're not like the great nba players who are like i'm gonna save it for like the finals and then just like put up 50 in the finals because they apparently you know Baja Blast obviously I think widely regarded as the best or one of the two best Mountain Dew flavors absolutely and apparently Purple Thunder is like has entered the conversation they nailed it but they did that for Circle K yeah like that I feel like you don't use that on Circle K well Look, that's our regional bias coming in. Because we're in a Circle K desert. That's true.

I like the Circle K. I like the system, too. I think it's really cool of Mountain Dew to be like, hey, do you have a corporation? Do you want your own flavor? We got you. I've never heard of that before. Hey, we're cool.

Hey, corporation, want flavor? I want a person to do it like i'm waiting for one famous person to have their own do flavor like how tight would that be i think honestly i want to see some i want to see some collabs with human beings well and they're like they're nice with the colors too because baja blast is now like it's like tiffany blue you know it's like oh yeah, you know, it's like, oh yeah, like a thing. It's a beautiful color. Oh, I see people dying their hair Baja Blast, like the baby's an eyeliner. The color story is just a Circle K after an earthquake is what we have going on in here. I love it. They're scientists. But you know what, Jack? We might have to make that sojourn to the Circle K for that purple drink.

Yeah. Amy, what is your favorite varietal? Sorry, flavor, as the lay people call it. Oh, I mean, I honestly haven't had that many. But I mean, I have to go. I love a Diet Baja Blast. It's so refreshing. They've got Diet Baja?

Yeah, Taco Bell, you can get Diet Baja. Okay, Diet Baja Blast. It's so refreshing. They've got Diet Baja? Yeah, Taco Bell, you can get Diet Baja. Okay, Diet Baja. Because I'm not trying to have all that sugar, but I do want the caffeine. For sure, for sure. I feel you. Miles, do you eat Baja? I'm Baja Blast all day. You know, I respect the culture, the Baja culture.

If I had my own flavor, I think it would just taste like red there's red you know like when you're a kid you know how when you're a kid your favorite candy flavor just like whatever the red one is yeah it's like that cherry candy off yeah like really lean the fuck into that like to the point where if you had to taste it you're like it has a nightmarish aftertaste that reminds me of sniffing those colored markers that came that like remember those scented thick ass colored markers we used to have back in the day yeah yeah yes like they had like the little styrofoam tray and shit you know i'm talking

about like that because i used to love sniffing that red marker that would be the whole thing yeah yeah that's me just take that look collab with the marker people. Bring out the whole palette based on those markers. And except for the black licorice one, I'm not fucking with that one. They should do one with Sharpie. I liked the smell of Sharpies. I think you would. A Sharpie Mountain Dew collab. Let me get a whiteout Mountain Dew.

Yeah. Can I get some metallic Krylon spray paint in a paper bag flavor? Wait, hold on. You just buffed up the spray paint? All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles.

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