The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 228 (5/31/22-6/3/22)

Episode Date: June 5, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball
Starting point is 00:01:41 just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented actor, producer, and activist. He originated the role of Abe in the Pulitzer Prize winning and Tony nominated play, Disgraced. That's where I know him from because I'm cold. Oh, yeah. But of course, we also know him as Simon Drake on How to Get Away with Murder. I'm here on the show from tv shows
Starting point is 00:02:45 like the good place chicago pd ever heard of him he's also a founding member of the chicago inclusion project which seeks to provide resources for underrepresented people in the arts it's i am so happy to be back again i love doing this this podcast. Oh, man, we love having you. Good seeing you, man. Good seeing you, too. Where are you right now? I'm in Los Angeles, but I want to chime in on the thing that like I wish NASA scientists would create more of and I could never have too much of. And for me, that is cilantro flavoring.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh, my God. I love when something has cilantro in it my uh i had a chicken curry the other day with cilantro in it and i was like more cilantro they're like you just ate a mouthful of cilantro sir more cilantro you want that yeah you want the molecular gastronomy where like they take you know like 7 000 pounds of cilantro and then put it into like one like tic-tac shaped thing and you're like yes your mouth may not recover from this and you're like please there's a dish uh i'm not sponsored by this restaurant but there's a restaurant called chin chin it's like chinese food they have one in beverly hills they have one in studio city
Starting point is 00:03:58 yeah it's like a chain from the 80s but yeah so so they got this restaurant so you know the other day i was like just hungry i ordered some thing and they had this thing called anthony's special noodles attention and i was like well what's special about anthony and like why is noodle special but it really just they have they put a cilantro dressing on it i was like let me get that these noodles were delicious oh man so and it had adequate salon i mean what's at what do you what how are their levels to it? I mean, like most of the time we see it as a garnet, a garnish. I go, if you go to like a taqueria, like it's going to be with onions chopped up.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Like how, do you want like, in your mind, in the ideal world, are you just seeing handfuls of cilantro on top of stuff? That doesn't, that doesn't deter me. Like when you get, when you get like a taco off a food truck and there's like almost like a whole like vine of cilantro. Oh, yeah. I love that. I love that. It's got the good flavor. Oh, you don't mind the stem? flavor oh you don't mind the stem you you no i don't mind oh i don't mind the stem at all i don't mind the stem but and the stem kind of gives you a little crunch yeah but the cilantro noodles it was like more than just a garnish like there was cilantro like right flavor
Starting point is 00:04:58 in the noodles and i like that because you don't really get that flavor with like asian dishes always so that was that was pretty great anyway that was just listening to you talk about cilantro has convinced me that i have the soap thing you know this you know the like some people taste cilantro and they're like that tastes like like soap water like i was gonna say oh have you tried the mountain dew flavor soap water that's cilantro based but i i didn't say that because I think there's just, like when you look up like cilantro flavor, first article, why does cilantro taste like soap? And they treat it like it's a preference.
Starting point is 00:05:36 For those who appreciate it, cilantro tastes like, but I don't think it's appreciation because like when I've never had cilantro and tasted something that is citrusy, which is what I'm seeing people describe it as. It does not at all taste like soap to me. But what does taste like toothpaste to me is root beer. And I think that's a thing, too. Like root beer to me is just toothpaste. It tastes like crust.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Whoa. I think you might be right. I think that might just be preference, and you putting that in people's heads might have just infected them and ruined root beer because I'm thinking about the taste of root beer, and I'm like, damn, that is the problem with root beer. It does taste a little bit. I do, too, but, like, think about it. I never even thought about that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It does have, like, a minty crust flavor to it. Well, they said it depends, but likely the shared ingredient is wintergreen, which is like an extract that they used to put in it. Wintergreen in my beer of root? Yeah. It's just interesting what our brains attach to, because for me, I take a sip of root beer,
Starting point is 00:06:40 and I'm like, that's what I brush my teeth. That's what I brush my teeth with. But yeah, it gets you all fucked up when you start brushing your teeth with root beer and i'm like that's what i brush my teeth like that's what i brush my teeth with yeah but yeah it gets it gets you all fucked up but you start brushing your teeth with root beer because you're so confused your dentist like you have so many cavities based on what are you doing like i'll brush with root beer when it's a similar frothy foam that comes about when you're really getting down on some tooth brushing and also just what what naturally happens on the top of root beer i have gone from ever appreciating root beer to ginger beer i like a ginger oh yeah i like that i don't drink i like ginger beer as my i like the bite and you can't make it spicy enough you can't you can't do it oh okay you can't give it to me fine tell me the spiciest ginger beer i mean i feel like in order of like spice factor i feel like reeds is pretty good yeah i think reeds is the one that has the like
Starting point is 00:07:32 version that is pretty commonly available that says spicy on it and that's the one that i fuck with the most right cock and bull also has good has bite to it too too. Oh, no. Reed's is not the one. Reed's Extra, that's the one that I have. It introduced me to ginger beer and has since. Okay, so where do you want ginger beer OG? What have you moved on to? I got to find it. You got to let me do some research here.
Starting point is 00:08:00 You're like, what I do is I take a whole ginger, I soak it in a two liter of Sprite for seven days. Jack says that there couldn't be, You're like, what I do is I take a whole ginger, I soak it in a two liter of Sprite for seven days. Jack says that there couldn't be, he wants NASA scientists to inject all the ginger. Now, I have had like concentrated ginger juice or like whatever you get at a smoothie bar. And that is painful and mean that they even serve that because they know people are coming in being like, oh, I've enjoyed ginger on sushi. I've enjoyed ginger beer. And that just tastes like concentrated pain. So maybe I just haven't had the right ginger beer that like puts me in my place.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I think the thing I'm thinking of is main root ginger beer, which has the, that's available at like, you know, Ralph's and Whole Foods and has a spicy varietal, you might say. Ah, yes. My favorite word. Today's bonus word. Yes, yes. Jaquese, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Everyone has some sad news.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And when I say sad, I'm very upset. But as of last week, me and Donald Trump have something in common. We have both been permanently banned from Twitter dot com. Twitter.com. Both. I got the Trump ban as in they permanently suspended my account and say you can't make new accounts, although I will. But you will see how that works. But you can't make new accounts. Would you like to know? So my search history, I've been looking ways to get your ban and your suspension reversed. That is what I've been looking at. I have appealed it. I've gotten denied twice. They say, no, you're going to stay banned.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So if anybody out there has a contact at Twitter, hit me up on Instagram or some shit. Hit your boy up. I'm trying to get it back. Here's why I got banned, y'all. I have to assume you came within inches of bringing U.S. civilization to its knees, overturning the electoral process with just massive conspiracy theories that caused people to murder other people based on the company you're keeping. No, no, no. It was something much worse than that.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I did something even worse than that. Oh, boy. something much worse than that i did something even worse than that oh boy so on the day of the shooting in texas where all the children lost their lives due to our obsession with guns in this country some bitch wrote online you know despite what and and i'm using the word let's stop right there with despite. But yeah, yeah, it was a dude. I'm just going to call him a bitch because that's what he is. He wrote, despite what happened today, this is still the greatest country in the world to live in.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And people from all over the world would love to live here. That's what this motherfucker wrote. So I should have ignored it. You know what I'm saying? It was a blue checkmark. I should have ignored it. But I just wrote, I wrote, I hope you stub your toe. I hope your knees always hurt.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And I hope you always have a piece of hair stuck in your throat for saying that dumb ass shit about children getting murdered. That was my tweet. And within 10 minutes, I got permanently banned from Twitter for inciting physical harm. Are you fucking kidding? That's such trash. For inciting physical harm and violence against other people and abuse. I got permanently banned, been twice denied for a reversal of my permanent ban for telling someone, I hope you stub your toe and you have a piece of hair stuck in your throat. They said I was not promoting
Starting point is 00:11:51 other people their right to have their own views. And I responded with abuse and violence and wish of physical harm. And I have been permanently banned from twitter the same twitter account where i put where i report people who have called me nigger hard r and just put spaces in between and twitter comes back and says they haven't violated any rules yeah there's spaces there yeah you can't do anything somebody who said who said you know what i hope they don't overturn roe v wade because black women get abortions the most and with abortions that's less black children i reported that so they told me this does not violate twitter rules saying stubble toe permanently banned from Twitter.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Well, you're talking Matt. I think that was Matt Iglesias who said that. Yes. I remember seeing that and having the wish in my heart that he would stub his toe and feel like he has something stuck in his throat. Maybe even inhale through his nose
Starting point is 00:13:02 a little black pepper and then just like sneeze for a couple hours. Sneeze. Yeah. Crazy, man. But that's that's what it is. You know, that's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Hmm. Interesting. Interesting. Twitter. Terrible. Ain't it? Ain't it grand? So that's my search history.
Starting point is 00:13:18 That's been my search history. But outside of, you know, porn. You know, let's be real. I'm still I'm still looking for porn. You know, let's be real. I'm still looking for porn. I'm still looking for the perfect porn. If anybody out there knows the perfect porn, let me know. And, you know, listen, we all have our sexual preferences. I enjoy the view of a beautiful lady in my porn.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So if you got the perfect porn, send it to me. I want to know. Beautiful women, you say? Okay. Beautiful. Just beautiful women. Beautiful women. I don't like black.com. Don't send me cash.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Very specific. We're getting off topic. We're getting off topic. That's my flight. That's part of the reason I don't have song in my heart today. I think this has accidentally given the show a great vibe. And I'm just going to take a
Starting point is 00:14:15 small sip of this buttery chard and ask you buttery chardonnay. And I'll ask you, what is something you think is overrated um right now i'm screaming at george washington i think he is overrated i think his shitty little voting parties and his teeth are very overrated i think american history uh is overrated i think they're lying i think it's full of lies. This is why people
Starting point is 00:14:46 buy guns. This is a very incendiary take on our tame morning show because we love George Washington, one of our founding fathers. But that is true. His teeth were not made of wood. And maybe it's time we do accept that as a country.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I refuse. Not on my watch. that's always like the push pull of the host is like you're about to get like you're about to figure it out you're like i refuse to believe that um american imperialism is the cause of a lot of them that doesn't sound like the george that i don't know but have been told about in numerous books with the gold binding that are illustrated with cartoons yes it was his wife martha that made the flag right was that it martha i don't think that's i think it was susan b anthony that made the flag with the circle and all the stars am i wrong am i wrong betsy ross wasn't it betsy ross that was a trick i played on both of you i
Starting point is 00:15:47 know you're very clever we have a tricky guest today you think i give a fuck about fuck betsy ross whoa whoa whoa what happened to our morning show i'm sorry you can't you can't come up to me talking about politics. I'm drunk on my birthday. What guy is something you think is underrated? Now, underrated for me is it's not all of Facebook, which I think is probably a net bad, even though me and Mark go way back. But Facebook memories, I love that stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It stores all of my digital memories. I found a status update this morning. It's the only reason I checked Facebook is to see what I was up to. Is that where you were seven years ago or 10 years ago? Yeah, 14 years ago. Checking with past guy. That's right. Guy Montgomery is at a party.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And there at the bottom it says, that's all for today. That's my only memory ever made on this day. It was 14 years ago I was at a party. And I wish I'd used more descriptive language because I can't remember a single detail. That's based on a check-in where you said at a party and that was it? It wasn't a check-in. And I didn't have a smartphone in 2008. It was either a party I was hosting or I went onto someone's laptop and posted this. I got really into posting very boring, banal status updates.
Starting point is 00:17:15 The other thing I do is I like to check my historic status updates for any crazy stuff I was doing. I think I got facebook 16 years ago i had no idea i was going to leave a digital footprint up until now right you know we had no conception that everyone was going to be able to look at everything we ever wrote that's crazy i'm looking at i just saw what mine was, May 27, 2008. Because, you know, back then it would say, Miles Gray says, like, the format was almost like this person said. And it was like, Miles Gray says, fight apathy. Or don't.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, my man. See, now that's good gear. That's just good content. See, I was in my bag in 2008. I was at a party. You were fighting empathy, but indifferent to what other people were doing. Or not, whatever. We were living our lives.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I have not been on Facebook in an extremely long time. Wow. Yeah, I get the smartphone, the apple uh memories updates that are like remember this good time oh yeah yeah and it's never like the sad music it looks like a funeral yeah they play with a jaunty tune yeah but like it's all it's all open source music can't they just like use the the music from my phone that i that they know i like yo can they use you too can't they use that one youtube album santa barbara still the only music i have on my phone you know that song that that that's like
Starting point is 00:18:57 the one you two song that i can't get off of her majesty's phone that plays when we plug it in yeah yeah no that's yeah i've had that song play randomly many a time. Fuck that. It sounds like they were starting Barbaran and it lost confidence. These vocal harmonies are too challenging. The edge is speaking out from behind his bass. I can't do it, Bono! Or Bono's just like midway he's like hold on stop stop man i
Starting point is 00:19:28 think we're in over our scheme if we can't do this this is going to go on every single apple phone in the world can you imagine recording an album with the weight of that hanging over you so everyone's gonna hear this or yeah but then know how bad those albums are you're like wow yeah i really don't give a fuck but great so you can see it got in their head yeah yeah can't please everybody is what i've always said that i can they certainly pleased me i that's still the only i thought a lot of people were mad about it. I was like, now I have music on my phone and I don't need anymore. And that's, that's the,
Starting point is 00:20:08 to this day, the only album on my phone and it, and it rocks. Songs of innocence, I think is that album. But then that's that album, but you're, you're leaving out the punchline,
Starting point is 00:20:20 man. Songs of experience. Oh, fuck comes later. And you're like, what? Wait, wait what i trusted you you son of a bitch what the edge what i loved songs of innocence is he the edge or edge he's the edge right either way know, you got a bit.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He regrets that nickname. He's old now. It's embarrassing, dude. Yeah, right. He's the. Is there a seat somewhere around? Yeah, he's a. Take a load off.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Oh, he is the edge. Okay. Thank you, David Howell Evans. Is there another one name person that is that has a the at the beginning of it the weekend yeah the week uh the holy ghost yes the father the son yeah maybe the big three brother i do i do feel like they would have maybe the Holy Ghost that's how they would have addressed the actual
Starting point is 00:21:28 ghost version of Jesus but I don't feel like they called him the sun when he was walking around but I do feel like the Edge's friends call him the Edge and the Weekend's friends call him the Weekend which is fun in the early bands
Starting point is 00:21:44 Evans was given the nickname the edge by members of the lipton village surrealist street gang to which bono belonged the nickname is commonly believed to be derived from the angular shape of his head damn so he was bullied an unflattering like childhood nickname right it's like yo and oh and shout out to the guitarist of my band jizz boy right up jizz boy we love you like if i had that name if i had just gone by me off like the entirety of my life like that takes you pretty clever credit your childhood bullies oh it was a lot of them there's a lot of clever bullies out there guy
Starting point is 00:22:29 i know if only they'd use their powers for good like bullying a different kid like what about this asshole over here this guy just told me he had his first wet dream last night. Embarrassing. Oh, Evan, you did? Yeah, man. Cool. Oh, why are y'all high-fiving him?
Starting point is 00:22:53 That's great. That's growth, man. That's growth. That's awesome, man. Well, that's cool, man. It's totally normal, man. I don't feel ashamed or embarrassed, you know. I'm like Jack Mehoff over here.
Starting point is 00:23:04 His mom made his lunch what do you like making school lunches jack i don't i do not like it we we have a metal like grill uh like it's a lunch it's a lunch box that goes inside the lunch box it separates the food out into different things so you can put more whole foods in there without them getting all mashed up. And it's the hardest thing to wash in our household. You know, man, I'm so
Starting point is 00:23:34 glad finally we're using the Daily Zeitgeist platform to talk about this because we got something made by a company called Smiggle. Got the plastic pull out. I can't get this thing out. I've got to wedge a button knife in there just to get this thing out to clean it. It's embarrassing. It's so hard to clean.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Really? Yeah. They're not like just one piece that you can just do a top-door dishwasher type shit? Sweet miles. Sweet, innocent miles. He knows stuff. They have like a door hinge on them, you know? Mine do. And then they're like a door hinge on them you know mine mine do and then uh they're like a weird shape and
Starting point is 00:24:09 they're also a weird size so like they don't fit in the sink necessarily like in a way that makes it easy to wash so you gotta know about jake miles is this guy's got a tiny little sink in the lunch boxes his kids are going to school have you seen i don't know if you've seen kanya and kim's house but their uh their sinks where you can't tell where the water goes or that it's a sink even. That's sort of how we modeled our sinks. And so that does make doing the dishes somewhat difficult. That way we can suss out any time travelers who know how to use this future technology. That's the literacy test, like in Demolition Man. That's right. Where they know you knew how to use the shells. Yeah, we have the three shells as well. Yeah use this future technology. Yeah. That's the literacy test, like in Demolition Man.
Starting point is 00:24:45 That's right. But they know you knew how to use the shells. Yeah, we have the three shells as well. Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah. You just got to. We're not.
Starting point is 00:24:51 We like to keep our bodies clean. We use the three shells. And I like to solve problems. I like to get my kids ready for the real world. Man. Well, shout out to your bento box dividers. I just remember. I mean, I remember being a kid.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I hated my food touching, but there were no options. It's like, here's this one Tupperware, everything will go inside of it, and you will eat it. Yeah. Well, Miles, the kids won. The food's safe right now. Damn it. Born in the wrong era yet again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 If only I could be a child today with this outlook on our future. Like, I just, mine was just a brown paper bag with like smaller, like sandwich bags full of stuff that would occasionally leak out. Oh. But yeah, I don't know. Mine was a series of brown paper bags and there'd be a big bag and then there'd be several smaller bags until i'd get to the tiniest bag no bigger than you know thumbnail and it would say uh check the rubbish bin by the gates and then you know there's this whole scavenger hunt and by the time i found the lunch we were
Starting point is 00:25:55 back to class i was starving they create a new one every day that's so you know god bless my parents there's so many scavenger hunts yeah i only had lunches up until like elementary school and then my parents like my fuck that just eat the eat the like prison slop they give you in there and that's that's what the kids want a lot of school right that's why that's what i don't man i would eat see kids i was like damn your mom has time to make that that's cool i'm gonna eat this like styrofoam tray of like old iceberg lettuce old bread they call croutons and ranch dressing uh but we'll call it chef salad day i was amazed that kid's mom had time to make that
Starting point is 00:26:37 lunch as well because i was so busy porking her all right you're clearly a bully come on no i'm uh i'm just feeling i told you i'm feeling i'm feeling nuts i got some crazy ideas that is a great i can't believe your mom made you your life i love it all right well i love it i truly love. Well, I love it. I truly love that. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:28:11 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer
Starting point is 00:28:38 your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:29:13 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding
Starting point is 00:29:58 these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
Starting point is 00:30:38 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?
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Starting point is 00:31:23 And we're back. And I was told by one of our producers that they kept falling asleep to the dulcet tones of miles. Because they're so dang boring. Ever and I speaking as NPR hosts. So don't fall back. So we're going to go further into it, into a deeper. we're going to go further into it into a deeper so let's dig into what is what's happening what the fallout has been on two sides of the border you got your america united states of america and then you got your canada which is a different country uh that just wants to be america united states but better or something yeah Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So what are they doing? They trying to like redesign their flag to be red, white and blue instead of just red and white? The Maple Leaf is now going to look like a 777 Howitzer artillery cannon. But no, they have Justin Trudeau has announced, you know what, we're going to do things a little bit differently. And we need to take the safety of Canadians seriously. So basically they are banning the sale of handguns. What is, and by that they're basically saying that you can no longer like procure a new handgun. So it's going to be like, you can't trade, you can't buy, sell. They're just saying, you know what the market on handguns, it's capped. That's it., you can't buy, sell. They're just saying, you know what, the market on
Starting point is 00:32:45 handguns, it's capped. That's it. If you got one, fine. Also, if you have an assault rifle, you need to come by and we'll buy that shit back from you because nobody, we're not doing that anymore either. And, you know, this has all been part of a, you know, wider campaign in Canada to curb gun access and curb gun violence after a gunman, you know, had killed 22 people in rural Nova Scotia, like in 2020. And that was a moment where it's like, oh, this is this is something that has to be addressed. And the wild thing is hearing, you know, how the prime minister is talking about it, about gun violence. And his quote is, gun violence is a complex problem. But at the end of the day, the math is really really quite simple the fewer the guns in our communities the safer everyone will be okay part of like my
Starting point is 00:33:33 you know that was my only response i know because our fucked up propaganda american brains are like okay but now also tell me about the people screaming at the prime minister because it means end of the world because gun buyback. Like, where's that part? Where's the part where he has to acknowledge that it's not a good idea because these people hate it? It was just, ah, it's truly something wild to hear a line like that. When meanwhile, we have people talking about it's not that we need less guns. We need less door
Starting point is 00:34:05 i think that's yeah that's wrong sorry the the pool the gravitational pool of the npr voice has has made me realize why they do it it just it it's very there's no way yeah there's no way outraged like right you can't be outraged until you're so it's like the thing where you go walk around with a big smile on your face and like that's supposed to make you happy like there's that like feedback loop have you heard that like it's yeah it's kind of a completely illogical way of dealing with things. You can't be at risk when you talk like this. You can't be at risk. It's also, I think, very American.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Very American. We're just going to force our damn souls into the right shape so we can get through this one more time. Ever, are you still joining us from the offices of NPR? I am. I was just saying every time I try to make myself happy by smiling, I just look like a jackass. Is it like... It's like a forced smile.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. Like so ear to ear that someone's like, are you distressed? You're like, I am happy. I'm fine. Nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Just smile with tears rolling down your face. Yeah. Nothing is wrong. I'm not stressed about anything and i've only been getting good news and any bad news is a practice to to deal with it it you know what i mean where it's like like with buddhism and i'm sure like a lot of other religions where it's like if you stop resisting the pain will go away right so it's like hey no bad news i accept the bad news i stop resisting the bad news
Starting point is 00:35:48 and suddenly there is no more bad news and this segment is of course brought to you by dukes um dukes man no more bad chardonnay breathe it in no more bad news i mean that would feel like a segment that they would have on npr it's like and next is stress management technique and they're, and the biggest thing is we have to accept what's happening around us, right? It's when we resist it that we feel all that discomfort. So if we just accept everything is terrible and trust the politicians to do everything, all your cares will go away. Just accept the gun violence around you. It's that simple. around you. It's that simple. You know, I like to go back to George Washington stories when I have to illustrate a point I want to make, but also another great American, Ever Maynard, the inventor of Chardonnays, has often said, do you think I would have invented this if I were happy? So I feel like a happy person could have come up with this. Could have come up with this
Starting point is 00:36:48 shit? No. Look how happy I am. Look at this smile. Look at it. Anyways, meanwhile, in the United States of America, the NRA held their convention where Donald Trump read off the names of the children and, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:04 victims of the Uvalde massacre. And then also, for good measure, at the end, danced a little jig on stage. That's not real. It is. It's not real. Everything feels like lazy satire at this point. And then the police arrested the police in Florida arrested a 10 year old who like had said that he bought a bunch of assault rifles and was going to do it, do a school shooting, essentially. And the you know, they interviewed him, found out that he was making false threats i don't think he had the the guns that he was claiming he did and they proceeded to arrest him and publicly release his mugshot that's so scary and they first of all i saw people like posting about this approvingly like on on social media it's just like
Starting point is 00:38:02 you know i don't know it just feels chaos, like signal and noise all like blended together into just indecipherable kind of slurry. This is a kid that needs like mental health resources and this is only going to make it worse. Like this kid needs like, yeah, counseling, therapy, but instead we're just like burning him at this stake or like dragging him through the town. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 This is not cool. Like this is only going to further traumatize this kid. And it's like, yeah, this kid did a fucked up thing and we should be taking threats seriously. But at the same time, this is also like a red flag that this kid needs help. Yeah. this is also like a red flag that this kid needs help yeah so the the sheriff who is prides himself as the the tough on crime sheriff made a statement i'm just gonna read from it because again it does it does feel like it's just bad like satire that's too on the nose but you know it certainly feels like the police are doing the like, you know, the thing where like a bully gets beat up and then comes in and immediately starts picking on the smallest kid in school just to, you know, prove something to themselves or whatever, salvage their reputation and sense of self. But so the sheriff said, this student's behavior is sickening, especially after the recent tragedy,
Starting point is 00:39:27 making sure our children are safe is paramount. We will have law and order in our schools. My team didn't hesitate one second, not one second to investigate this threat. So that is like a veiled reference to the Uvalde police, you know, waiting outside the school while the shooting was taking place.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Right now is not the time to act like a delinquent. It's not funny. This child made a fake threat and now he's experiencing real consequences. We don't wait one second. We investigate every threat as if it's real. And while Marceno acknowledged that the boy is only 10 years old
Starting point is 00:40:02 and his brain isn't fully developed, he explained that making fake threats still have real consequences. So he's going back to that fake threat, real consequences thing, like a tough love school principal, real threat. Hmm. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It sounds dangerous. Yeah. That one seems a little less clear. It's, it's wild how like everyone's kind of using this to differentiate themselves, even though they're in the same group. Be like, we have no problem jumping to conclusions and brutalizing a 10-year-old child because we take threats seriously. Unlike the jokers in that other place. You're completely missing the point.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Can we describe this photo of the sheriff with the cops behind him? Yeah. For the point. Can we describe this photo of the sheriff with the cops behind him? Yeah. For the listeners. So there's a big I'm going to call him buff daddy sheriff and he's wearing a half zip sweater pullover and it's slightly buttoned down but it's kind of like an army green and it's
Starting point is 00:40:59 got a gold star. Huge pecs chiseled jawline. Huge pecs. Huge pecs. Great arms. Big pecs. Twoiseled jawline. Huge pecs. Huge pecs. Great arms. Big pecs. Two big pecs on his back. This guy's Gregory Pecs. It's Gregory Pecs. I did have to look up to make sure it was not Gregory Pecs.
Starting point is 00:41:15 The porn star? Yeah. Not Gregory Pecs. Gregory Pecs. Oh, is that really a porn star's name? No, I'd imagine there would be a guy named Gregory Pecs. Oh, is that really a Pan Stars name? No, I'd imagine there would be a guy named Gregory Pax. Oh, God. So then there's three SWAT team members on his left and three regularly dressed cops on his right.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And they're all like, yeah, we're going to Daniel Craig movie. You know, like kind of like tough guy looks. Yeah. It's like you're a 10-year-old. They're armed to the hilt. Oh, yeah. The SWAT team members have the masks over their faces, and then the officers are doing their best to flex
Starting point is 00:41:57 while also keeping one hand on one of their weapons. They're in a sad flying V of like no confidence and using gun to look tough. The three people who are like masked and shit, it really, it's like, it shows you all they got to do is like, oh shit, man,
Starting point is 00:42:15 we spent so much money on this crap and never use it. Y'all line up so they can at least see that we're dressed like the video game characters from Call of Duty. They all look kind of
Starting point is 00:42:23 half out of shape. I am going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm getting back into shape, but I dressed like the video game characters from Call of Duty. They all look kind of half out of shape. I am going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm getting back into shape, but I feel like I could outlift and outrun these people. The chief, I'm worried about his cardio. That's for sure. Honestly, he definitely uses steroids and a lot of pre-workout. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Too much pre-workout. The farts are ridiculous when he goes to the squat rack. People are like like fuck it get away get away from this guy clear out yeah i mean and throughout all that time too like i don't know if you read any like the weird quotes coming out of the fucking nra convention of people like with their weird takes trying to defend you know like just this indefensible situation and like some people this guy was talking to Texas Tribune, like there's this one line in this article,
Starting point is 00:43:08 he said, they described like people who are attending the NRA convention, they described feeling ostracized for their beliefs and not just those on guns, for their refusal to get the COVID-19 vaccine, for their objections to gay people serving as teachers, for their belief in disciplining children through spanking. Like what? serving as teachers for their belief in disciplining children through spanking like what like the dinosaurs feel bad that we've completely moved on like it's just our dinosaur culture
Starting point is 00:43:33 though please i have a dinosaur culture in portland and i went there a couple weeks ago for some gigs and i was taking a lift and this guy's like, have you ever been to Dallas? Foreign words. And he was a dinosaur, right? And, but it was Portland. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:49 I mean, it's okay. It's a little conservative. He goes, I'm just looking to move somewhere where people respect the law. And I was like, hell yeah. He was like, I'm tired of all this graffiti.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And it's like, it's not 1952. Right. There's graffiti. Tired of this damn artwork everywhere rock and roll somewhere where you can just walk into a starbucks with a assault rifle right yeah uh there's another person who like also said like the kid could have had a bat and could have done just as much damage but they're trying to attack guns and it's just it's wild to even hear the people that are there because i don't know if you saw and could have done just as much damage, but they're trying to attack guns. It's wild to even hear the people that are there.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Because I don't know if you saw the images from inside the convention. It was sparsely attended. Like a lot of the images. More people protesting than attending. I did see that video where the guy addressed the president. Have you guys seen that? Yeah, he was like,
Starting point is 00:44:43 thank you for your thoughts and prayers. Right. He's like, people have said wayne lapierre did nothing after sandy hook after vegas after parkland after you like just goes fires off the list and like you can tell people were getting uncomfortable because it was like it had the tone of someone being critical and he's like and yet they don't see what he has done he's like i want to thank you mrierre, for your thoughts and prayers, because you did offer them kind of shit. But yeah, like it is it is a very interesting moment to see even the people who are fully NRA brained, like the best they can do is say stuff like a bat would have been just as bad. Or the reason why people are doing this is because we're teaching our kids that America is a bunch of crap, as one guy said. And I just feel like that logic is it's starting to
Starting point is 00:45:31 wear thin for some people when you just kind of see the repeated horrors like over and over and over again. And then here people be like, we need one. We need one door. Right. So the door thing is that there were too many doors and one of the too many of them were left open. Is that their thesis? Yeah. But then just in general, if you have one point of entry, you can control that. And it's a choke point. So if someone were to enter and they were untoward, like you can get it, like stop them right there at the point of entry. There's no other place to monitor. Just the one door. Stop them right there at the point of entry. There's no other place to monitor. Just the one door. Again, unless there's a fire at that door.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. In which case. The much more common event. Yeah. Yeah. So, but, you know, this is kind of like, I think, you can tell from the outrage from the people even outside of the convention center where the NRA thing was happening is it's just like at a certain point it's like this sounds so so utterly ridiculous when most people would be like if someone's like the person is shooting people you'd be like i wish that person didn't have the capability to shoot people like at will right that's that usually is like the easiest way to solve a problem but hearing all this other like
Starting point is 00:46:43 you know redirection and nonsense, I think it's just, it's just making people more furious. Yeah. I was reminded while driving around over the long weekend and seeing a blue lives matter, like sticker on the back of someone's car. Like there are people who not just the police,
Starting point is 00:47:03 but the P there are people whose identity is based on the idea that police are heroes and so i'm assuming those are the people who are like sharing this story about arresting a tank like the the social media i saw on this was like yeah but like bernie sanders just wants to eliminate student debt nice Nice try, asshole. Like the at least some people are doing something about the problem we have, like commenting on the story about the 10 year old being arrested. Right. And it's just yeah, it's there's the recency bias that we've talked about before, about like where your town will never be more prepared for the snowstorm that happens after the one that they needed to be better prepared for. And then, you know, the police and the people who have Blue
Starting point is 00:47:52 Lives Matter, like, on their social media accounts are, like, you know, they are wounded right now. And, like, this is what we get as a result. And it's wild. It truly is just something that I feel like we're getting many moments that belong in that end stages of human civilization museum with Jimmy Fallon, Paris Hilton interview about board games. I do have something to say in defense of Blue Lives Matter. And it's more the Sheriff's Lives Matter. Over the Memorial Day weekend, which also happens to be my birthday weekend, I was at the beach. Yes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm drinking my Chardonnays. And I saw a sheriff's helicopter doing tricks in front of the buoy in front of me because the helicopter landing pad was directly kind of off to my left. And every 15 minutes, the helicopter would take off and do a new trick. And I got to say, I've never wanted to waste more tax dollars i wanted to see more tricks and i was like this is about ten thousand dollars a minute and i'm here for it yeah per trick literally i don't think i've seen helicopter tricks what do a helicopter yeah it looks like they're about it looks like they're about to fall out of the sky and i was like everybody was like oh my god the helicopter's gonna fall into the ocean and then they'd go psych or they would just fly straight up like nose up and then dive bomb down and do some kind of roll it honestly was very cool what wait and this was like in a law enforcement helicopter yeah what the fuck hey i would wait i swear there is a there is like a a crisis of confidence happening with
Starting point is 00:49:51 all police forces across the country and they are great go do some tricks sick copter tricks you do i feel like they're doing what i'm doing right now like where they're at work and they'll be like yeah yeah i just have a phone call to make in my office. And they're podcasting. Yeah. But it's like a fascist podcast. Like we're on patrol. And instead they're like doing their own memorial like Air Force show.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Welcome to Sick Tricks with Rick. You can hear that rotor in the background. What's going on with the Miami Heat thing, though? Oh, well, so that was a wonderful pivot from Evermaidard. The whole thing that's happening. Thank you for keeping the show moving. The whole other side of this, right right is like something that that's interesting there's this op-ed in the washington post who was written by i feel greg sergeant talking about
Starting point is 00:50:51 like you know the effectiveness of athletes and their advocacy right now because it just seemed like pointed something interesting out was that when sports teams get involved, like conservatives can't handle it. Like they just cannot handle athletes or teams having an opinion on like policy. And it's always like, just shut up and play sports ball. And I think it's like, I think there's just something interesting about like that insistence because it seems like one of the biggest, the reactions that got like the most attention last week was Steve Kerr, who is a basketball coach. And his outrage about it, a lot of people were like, oh, wow, this is interesting. Like, wow, look at this coach had something to say about it.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Then the San Francisco Giants manager, Gabe Kapler, he told reporters he wouldn't stand for the national anthem until he felt the country was actually moving in the right direction. Because he said what he's seen is just not good good at all and this drew a lot of criticism but then it was quickly followed by like other teams airing messages of support for like gun reform like the the yankees and shit like that and so the heat before their game they had like a you know pro gun reform message and like marco rubio was like like just stay out of it but i think there is something interesting just pointing out like how much how pressed the politicians get when athletes talk about this stuff because it does feel like they occupy this space in our popular culture where like you know clearly athletes of color when they protest to this point have has
Starting point is 00:52:23 been seen like you're radical black or, you know, person of color. Like how do you like Kaepernick? Like where was the support when like Kaepernick was protesting? You know? Yeah, not much. But yeah, it's then I think that's the unfortunate aspect, especially of like the the issue that he's drawing attention to, which would put a lot of people off to be like, there's not a racism problem. But right now with gun reform to have people say, I fucking think it's awful that children are dying needlessly.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Now try and come for me for that. And a lot of people are just like, like, I want to be like, what are you soft? And you don't like needless child death, but it puts, it puts them in a very
Starting point is 00:53:05 odd place and i think aside from like the crisis of confidence there's also just like they don't know what to say anymore and you know this sort of op-ed was just kind of pointing out like how much more you know like normalizing athletes can do because there are there are groups of like rigidly minded voters who are like i don't know man if anyone who's a democrat says anything like i'm instantly turned off now hold on this baseball player also doesn't like it okay maybe that's maybe i'm not so soft if i like me when the nra does it i mean the nascar does it talk to me when nascar does yeah i mean we'll we'll see where if it reaches that point but it is interesting to just to see like you know i think just the think just the more, like, outward rejection of, like, just kind of being, like, thoughts and prayers and being like, no, this is kind of fucked up.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Although I do feel like. I do think it's very cool. My only concern is, like, with how incrementalism is in this country, that the new normal is just to be like, this is messed up. Right. Whereas before it was just, like, thoughts and prayers. Right. Yeah. And now the reaction like, this is messed up. Right. Whereas before it was just like thoughts and prayers. Right. Yeah. And now they're like, this is messed up.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Don't ask me to do much more. But it is messed up. The heat message is remarkably like from the year 2018 for the first half of it. Like they do a moment of silence. They ask everybody to like honor the losses of the families who lost children and, you know, their memory. And it is like thoughts and prayers. And obviously it's silent because they're doing a moment of silence. pressure on their local politicians to pass gun control reform like the the crowd like really i you know they it shouldn't be surprising but the crowd really like gets behind it and like starts cheering almost uniformly like there's almost uniform approval and like i i don't know that that does like i feel like that's a good in florida yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:55:08 which is probably why marco rubio was like what the fuck is going on yeah marco rubio not happy i mean i i don't know this is something i've always wondered right like tragedy touches every person regardless of your political ideology and i know sometimes it's maybe easy to wait oh easier to explain away why something may have happened but on some level i'd imagine if you're a human even though you may be you know maga to the to down to your bones that you may have experienced loss in your life and for a moment we're like that's awful to like lose a child And for a moment, we're like, that's awful to lose a child. And I am aware of that sensation.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And to then hear someone be so shitty in the face of it, like repeatedly, like maybe the first 40 times, it was like easy to hide it. But there is something I think, just like everybody was talking last week, like we all were talking about moments. We were just breaking down just by, not even because like we're like there was something different about this one it's like i feel like we're collectively reaching this like
Starting point is 00:56:09 tipping point where it's really difficult to kind of keep being like that okay well maybe it'll be a while to the next one and we can figure it out in the interim but it's not it's gonna be like tomorrow i know that sounds bad no and i i No, and I think the reaction of politicians is one thing. But I just think for people, we're not going home taking away millions in donations from interest groups to stay in office to help soothe our wounds. Could you imagine? Why do you think I go to Duke's? Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Miles is in the fucking pocket of big mayo or as they call it in the jar but like baby boy i'm in the jar okay sorry no okay but it it does it is one of those things where like the response like it the shit is the tricks don't work on people anymore it's like how are you going to look at that and not say something that's more substantive now again but with how incremental things feel it may just push the thing the goalpost just a fucking couple inches where now the response isn't thoughts and prayers it's like what are they doing in washington also hear your donations in washington but right that's just like the new face of the game i don't know it's it's hard to know until we really kind of get on the other side of it i think all pressure any any pressure anybody can apply is great you know on the sports front and i'm wondering if canada is doing the thing like a
Starting point is 00:57:38 good parent where they just like model the good behavior they don't directly tell the kid to do it but they're just like when the kid is having a temper tantrum they get calmer and they like bring it down here they're like hey what so you know i sometimes i get angry too but they're really the only way i keep a big smile on my face when i get angry and a giant glass of chardonnay is close by. Suddenly I'm not angry anymore. We've done it. I don't know, but I mean like, you know, just like when we did our show up in Canada
Starting point is 00:58:12 and I'm like, wow, that's healthcare? They're like, look, no dental, no mental. And I'm like, hey, we got nothing. So that's cool. But I mean, I don't know, I think, or it could just, we're like, Oh, what's their end game here? It's like, maybe they're trying to take care of their children.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Again. I don't know. I think it's about us. If I had to guess, it's about us. No, I was saying about them. This they're trying to say, fuck you to us right now. Yeah. And really what we can do and look what you can do but you're not doing it
Starting point is 00:58:45 yeah yeah all right well let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk about a movie that has some good ideas of what we can do to canada and that is top gun i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members
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Starting point is 01:03:19 Just a flat panic. They're freaking. They're freaking, man. Fucking freaking out, man. Which, I don't know. I always find that a little bit suspect because the people who have, who that actually affects are not the majority of dollars in Netflix stock, and suddenly they're scared and pissed and firing everybody, which seems like what is happening at Netflix. But they've kind of announced a new direction that they're taking things.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah, they're focusing on making big, quote, this is quote, quote, quote, focusing on making bigger movies making better movies and releasing fewer than it previously did at a gluttonous pace damn sure yeah i i think i think the wording of that is certainly appropriate considering how much content netflix was just pumping out and all of a sudden you would just go on netflix and everything that you used to see as like oh yeah we'll watch this enough except for that it was just populated by shows you're like what even is this what is this this movie this show this thing i've absolutely never heard of with that little red n in the top corner like ah yes this is a netflix joint also using the phrase gluttonous pace feels very like self-hating like it feels
Starting point is 01:04:40 like somebody who's like i'm such a pig. I hate myself just looking in the mirror. Yeah, I don't know. Just ease up. You guys made some good movies. You're figuring shit out. I like the idea of making bigger movies and better movies. I love good movies. That's my thing.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I love them. Here's the thing with Netflix, man. I wish Netflix would admit. Netflix is misstepping a lot. You know, they misstepping with on social shit. They're misstepping with all the people they've let go and all the shows they just like canceled. I just had a show canceled on Netflix, an animated show that I was on, recorded already episodes. And when they did that boot, I found out my shit is never coming out.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Beautiful. You know, like they they missed up in a lot doing ads and charging, you know, sharing passwords when that's how they got successful. I wish Netflix would just be real about what they really want to be. Yeah. Netflix started off as the DVD subscription. yeah netflix started off as the dvd subscription they switched over and introduced us to the world of streaming and they became the streaming site uh netflix doesn't want to be a streaming site anymore netflix wants to be a production studio yeah you're right that's what they want to be they want to be a paramount they want to be a warner brothers they want to be these type of things
Starting point is 01:06:06 where it's not about the streaming it is about the having your name on a movie or tv show a la warner brothers dreamworks disney all these other places and then you know netflix will be their hub a la like a disney plus or hbo max or warner brothers or you know like it'll be a hub but they want to be a production company and if they would just say that like things would make so much more sense you know who doesn't get shit for putting out things at a quote gluttonous pace, Warner Brothers, because Warner Brothers is a fucking production company. Like they're supposed to put out multiple movies a year and multiple TV shows a
Starting point is 01:06:53 year. And, but because Netflix is a streaming site and that's how they are still marketing themselves. When they put out all these God awful movies and, or just a crazy amount of like content yeah we look at it and we do say oh yeah it's gluttonous this is too much like you know like i miss what netflix used to be right well because netflix decided years ago that we don't want to be
Starting point is 01:07:16 this no more we want to be a production company we want to get in the award business we want to win oscars we want to win emmys we want to win all these things and we want to have us do they're building studios here in la we see them all the netflix studios with the sound stages and shit like that they want to be a production company they should just fucking say it and they should stop bullshitting and i think people would give them more leeway as a company if they just said what they actually are trying to be as a business model that's my opinion on netflix yeah and i just i think there's they probably have a perception issue because people just think of them as like the like the netflix was the one
Starting point is 01:07:58 word like kleenex is the one word for tissues like netflix was the one word for a while for anything like watching anything on streaming and that's like the public perception but then on the business side they are trying to yeah they want people paying them for content too not just like having to pay other people for for content yeah i think it's also just annoying that you know in these in these methods of cost cutting it always comes down to or shouldn't say always, but it often comes down to cutting employees. And in this article, it says that they're axing 150 employees, which is, you know, 2% of its workforce doesn't sound huge, but that's still 150 people that are out of a job, because you're spending too much money on whack content.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And I don't think that's necessarily any of those 150 employees fault that like, if your cost cutting measures are just like, we're going to keep making big shit, but we're just going to get rid of people so that we can like slim down this process. It does not make your content necessarily better to have less people working on it. It's like you look at an enormous movie, there's millions of people working on it, because you want to get a the best and you also don't want to crunch whoever you have and so just getting rid of employees to save that money is it feels short-sighted in terms of like creating better content when you know more hands make light work give you more opportunities it's
Starting point is 01:09:16 just like why why get rid of people as your first measure just as they're saying make a few less movies that will save you a lot of money especially jack as you've noted here that they spent what was it 175 million dollars on the irishman it's ridiculous that's the one like they they're not saying like these are the types of movies we'll never make again except that one they're like we're not making the irishmen again and the fact that they spent 175 million dollars on that is and it's not even it's not even the amount i mean the amount is crazy you know i'm not saying that it's not but like if if if you heard like they spent that on the avengers you would be like okay that makes sense but like the Irishman
Starting point is 01:10:05 that boring fucking three hour drama all that money to make Robert De Niro look like he was slightly younger and also descended from like one of his ancestors was one of the characters from the movie
Starting point is 01:10:22 Polar Express that would still be to this day one of the funniest from the movie polar express yeah exactly that'll still be to this day one of the funniest fucking scenes i've ever watched in my life is when robert de niro had to beat that dude ass and they was like all right he'd look younger but this nigga still got an 80 year old body he can't move clearly dealing with bone density issues quite literally oh my god that man i i mean at that moment i was already bored with the movie and even though that gave me a hefty laugh i was like i can't i can't enjoy the rest of this movie like it's pretty fucking bad but yeah truly truly the best thing about the irishman was
Starting point is 01:11:06 them wasting all that money especially martin because martin scorsese that's who did that right him wasting all this money on this movie and it doesn't even look good and then have the nerve to say like mcu movies ain't real cinema motherfucker they could have did that shit better than you did they could at least have that one moment yeah no well because they're aware that there are actors who are under the age of 70 and they wouldn't they could have just cast them in the roles i think all those performances especially pesci really good not not here to hate on it but like to the fact that that cost 175 million christ like i don't know no nobody was like wow like that that is what i want to see done like that that is the magic the movie magic
Starting point is 01:12:02 that i want to see is like an old person made to look slightly younger like that. It doesn't do anything. in its total grandeur like you watch i think you brought up avengers i think it's a perfect point when you have a moment where there's literally every big actor in hollywood on stage at once doing this awesome charge at each other moment with the main villain you look at that and you're like that's a that is a fucking spectacle that costs a lot of money but it is showing itself spectacle that costs a lot of money, but it is showing itself. Another example is I just watched or I've said this a bunch of times, but the Taylor Swift reputation tour, you can see the video on Netflix, the the tour video of that show, you know how much money went into that tour. And it shows it shows in every aspect of this tour. And when you spend a bunch of money and you're looking at this thing going, where'd that money go? That's a failure.
Starting point is 01:13:08 That is a failure. A hundred percent. When you can't see why something would cost as much as it does. It's just like this. It's not worth it. Right. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you where all that money went.
Starting point is 01:13:20 It went to Robert De Niro's salary because he got to pay his ex-wife half. And I say, you know what, Black Queen? Get your money, baby. It went to Robert De Niro's salary because he got to pay his ex-wife half. And I say, you know what, Black Queen? Get your money, baby. Get your money. Take that. Take that motherfucker for all he worth, Queen. Take him.
Starting point is 01:13:40 That's where it all went. De Niro, he negotiated extra money because he got to, you know, he's paying Alamo now. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
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