The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 229 (6/6/22-6/10/22)

Episode Date: June 12, 2022

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer, actor, who's written for and appeared on Comedy Central and ABC, his stand-up albums, The Blake Album, Stuffed Boy, Live from the Pandemic, all debuted at number one on iTunes and Amazon.

And his album, 12 Years of Voicemails from Todd Glass to Blake Wexler, charted on Billboard. Ever heard of it? Please welcome. No. The hilarious. I've never heard that. The chaotic.

Oh, no. Blake Wexler! This is Blake Wexler, a.k.a. Grrr. First we're going to pod, then we're going to cast. Then we let it zite. Geist, let it zite. Wex going to give it to you. He going to give it to you. Wex going to give it to you.

He going to give it to you. That was not from Paul Garaventa. I wrote it. But Paul's around, and I wish him the best. Wex going to give it to you. Yeah. Thank you, guys. That's true.

Wex is going to give it to you. He did not write that. Yeah. true he did not write that but yeah i feel like no other guests do i feel more in need of some like wwe entrance music where like miles and i are just talking and then the music just like kind of breaks in there's a sound of shattering glass and the music breaks in and then everybody like super producer justin comes in and everyone's just shouting about how they can't believe that this music's playing. And that means that Blake Wexler is here. But the entrance is like tragic.

Like I'm being dragged by a horse like into the ring and I'm barely alive. Oh my God. Please, somebody cut the horse, the rope that's attached to the horse. Please, somebody cut the rope that's attached to the horse. You guys are like, oh, no, we hear his music. Because you know there's going to be an insurance claim on your hands for my injuries that I suffer. He better be riding that horse outside the venue. Oh, no, it's Blake Wexler.

This is actually really bad for us. This is not good for our financial security as a company, as an institution. My personal injury attorney has his own entrance music as well. Oh, got it. Bill Whipshits. Oh, no. It's Jacob and Ronnie. Oh, fuck.

It's his partners. I like how you had the grrrr Like DMX but maybe yours is just like Like slight weeping Oh shit Oh no It's the weeper The grim weeper The slim weeper

In the building Blake how are you though and all joking aside and seriously i don't want to hear another fucking joke for the rest of this podcast not a problem i swear to god get your shit together how are you doing i'm gonna have to throw out all the hard copies of jokes that i had printed out uh i don't i don't read screens well uh i'm doing good i'm in uh. I'm in Charleston visiting my parents. Okay. And we were talking before, very bizarre setup in here. I have my computer resting on piles of tools.

And there's a bunk bed in my dad's office for some reason. But I think it's a chaotic. You kind of see where the chaos is coming from. It's an inherited chaos, I guess. Your parents have other roommates? They've been Airbnb-ing their home while they live here. To me and my sister, we split the bunk bed. We're in our 30s. No, it was just a bed that they held

onto. Is that your childhood bed? It is. I was going to say, the way you just said that, I was like, that sounds ridiculous. That's not true. But no, it is and i was i was going to say the way you just said that i was like that sounds ridiculous that's not true but no it is it is true you were right and i think what it is is that we had a twin bed that can be used as a guest bed but there's just another one on top of it if that makes sense so the bed is perfectly functional it's the extra one that's on top of it, the double decker. Exactly. That's weird. That's luxury.

It is an embarrassment of riches, to be honest. They hacked the second bed on top? Or like it was built for that and they just are putting the second bed? It was built for that, but it would look less strange if there was just one bed in the room but it's a bunk bed which is you know it really is tricky and complicated over here maybe you know one day for the grandkids oh man maybe sleep in that bed i don't know maybe i'm stupid for keeping it blake not subtle in the least bit the message that it is sending you yeah maybe your father and I are real dumb fucking idiots for thinking that could happen I

don't know are we there's like 80 pillows with different name options as well it's like oh geez all right now you've really crossed the line like I'm not gonna name my kid Ramson what is that even whoa you came really close to saying my kids name bro that's I

was actually thinking of a guy I went to elementary school with. Ramson? Yeah. Son of a Ram. Yeah. Ramson. Yeah, exactly. So you know.

It's starting to make sense. Wait, you know Ramson? Yeah. Ramson's good people. Yeah. Hard-headed. But good guy. Yeah.

Named after the Mel Gibson Flim. Mel Gibson Flim is how we're pronouncing that? No, that's true. Named after the Mel Gibson film. Ram mel gibson flim is how we're pronouncing that no that's true named after the mel gibson film the ramsay and and they just miss miss that yeah what is something from your search history oh okay so i for my podcast was unfortunately reading the book hashtag girl boss which is such a incredible piece of work. And I was just look, there's a quote in her book that says things come to those who wait, but only those left by the only things left by those who don't hustle.

And then it's attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Yes. And I was like, what? And I mean, this is like, you know, it's fully printed in the book. And so I'm going to look at the other quotes. I'm like, maybe the whole book has been joke quotes. And I was like, no, they're not. So all the other quotes are real. So I went on a pretty intensive search that apparently the book publishers didn't do on link three, the Lincoln Foundation debunked that Abraham Lincoln never said this, but there's so much art and Etsy art with this quote being sold. And now people are sending me pictures of this quote that

are up in their offices where everyone believes that Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln said things come to those who wait, but only things left by those who don't hustle. H mean he was on that rising grind abe lincoln he's always said that i think he coined that phrase yeah he was like we all have the same amount of hours in the day as beyonce which was um which i'm sure was a a woman who was enslaved during the year he was alive that he was pretending to fight for right what a fucking like hustle that doesn't that immediately set off alarm bells it's not like the gettysburg address was like and i've got a dream worth more than my sleep that's why i'm grinding i'm on that grind grind culture in the civil war we we got to be out here going hard all day yeah it's truly shocking that anyone let it get published in a book let alone sold constantly and framed art it's everywhere

and additionally the word hustle did exist um in that year but it meant uh something entirely different it meant to like beg and do nothing. Oh, right. Like, like being a hustler, like you're hustling people for. Yeah. Yes, exactly. And yeah.

So anyway, so that was, that was the latest thing in my search history of trying to figure out why hashtag girl boss was quoting Abraham Lincoln telling you to hustle. I'm surprised. I just love the idea of putting toxic hustle culture quotes on historical figures where like the vernacular is complete. Like there's no way they were talking like that. Like it's not like there's one that says work until you no longer have to introduce yourself.

Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? Yeah. That is. I did find that quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln on Forbes quotes. Thoughts on the business of life. Yeah. Oh, my God. trying to like figure out what the fuck went wrong uh what the fuck was wrong just in general with the western world we'll probably look at marketing but like the entire canon of business literature is going to be wow yeah yeah that's gonna take someone out i mean i learned because of this i learned the very sad fact where uh several book publishers and um copy editors

contact me to let me know that books are not fact-checked i said what and i guess like i don't know what i was thinking that there was like a police union for books you know where they come around like you can't say that that's not true it's just i've always trusted books more than i trust tweets only to find out that they both have the same uh fact-checking, which is to say none. Or, you know, your weird cousin coming in to be like, well, actually, yeah, books aren't fact-checked unless you paid to have it done. So Girlboss wrote down that Lincoln quote and then just thousands of copies sold. I'm assuming just like the fact-checking process was rejected on the basis of being

not profitable like much of like journalism but that's that is so wild yeah nonfiction yeah it's just not I mean I guess that's how we get what James Gray a million little pieces where they're like oh actually he like made the whole thing up and he's like whoopsie

whoopsie whoopsie whoopsie whoopsie day because yeah I guess you have to pay to fact check it yourself and then you also could also you also still have to agree so even if someone's like hey by the way i don't think abraham lincoln said that you can be like nah i'm gonna put it in the book anyway like it's just your prerogative right exactly like i'm pretty sure sigmund freud said turn down your feelings and turn up your hustle all hustle quotes what is something you think is overrated the tv show friends i tell you what you're not making any with that take'm not making any on this show with that take, buddy.

No, I'm just joking. Proceed. No, I was just thinking, like, I used to have a roommate back in the day that would watch it pretty much like, you know, you could find it on at any hour of the day. So it was, like, always kind of going on in the background. And I was like, I don't get it. Like, it's just not funny. Yeah. You guys. I was like, I don't get it. Like, it's just not funny. Yeah. You guys.

I mean, I might be getting my like my white card revoked, you know, but I got to say, like, it's just not my thing. You're going to be in trouble, man. They're like, we heard what you said about friends, Todd. I was always a bit of an edgelord So I was more of a Seinfeld guy Oh boy The dark side I was a dark bad boy I wore a leather jacket

Pretended to smoke cigarettes But you like light them And you're just like Oh my god So hardcore I thought you were going to go hard with the I didn't like Seinfeld, Edgelord take. No, no, no.

I'm just joking. I'm not an Edgelord. Not an Edgelord. Yeah. I'm firmly not. Wait, do you like sitcoms in general, though, Todd? Or just because of how big of a place it holds in pop culture? I don't fucking know.

I feel the same way. In the 90s, when it was the biggest show, I was just like, I don't know. i don't get like i feel the same way i i didn't in the 90s when it was like the biggest show i was just like i don't know not not really into it yeah it's like i think yeah because it's just so big and watching it i sit there and i go okay i may you know sometimes there's things that like you don't dig it but you can get why other people dig it yeah you know and then with this show the only thing it's like all right jennifer anderson's kind of cute courtney cox is like really cute and then that's about it like i don't think i don't find anybody interesting there's no i don't know i just think everybody on the show is like objectively hot so that i think that probably like pluses it up yeah like and then yeah the i i feel you though like i was not into it and i did feel a little bit crazy just being around people who would make friends references and not get simpsons references

you know we're reading from different scrolls you know what is something jeremiah that you think is underrated this is a food that i um i'm on i'm i've i've eaten it for years and i'm very curious if either of you have ever tried it oh but it's 20 questions it's a peanut butter and pickle sandwich. Okay. Have you ever had it? No. I've heard of that combo, but I've never had it. Yeah, I think it's just like we've been doing this show long enough. The freaks have come on here and talked about the brain. Preaching the gospel.

Yeah, no, I hear good things. Dude, it's very underrated. Somebody would say it's disgusting, but I feel like it's very good. The dill mixed with the peanut butter, just the contrasting of the juice with the very dry peanut butter is very good. Interesting.

Wait, so when you make it, do you do the bread, you put the peanut butter on first and then pickles on top? then yep okay peanut butter on both sides and then pickles laid down on one side and then smack them together eat it and is any specific like right now in my in my refrigerator i think i have like tony paco's like hot and spicy pickle slices is there A specific kind of pick you know I mean like Is the brine that's interacting with the peanut butter That's a good question actually

I met a guy that At the farmer's market through pickles He has a stand there That I actually became friends with Just because the pickles Were so good we started talking Yeah it's called Kalen and Kalen at the farmer's market in los

angeles uh like by third like uh on fairfax literally game changer i can't eat pickles the same way anymore because they're so much better and i've eaten at like delis across the u.s in and out of country all that but like there's something about these pickles that are just so good wow and it's dill exclusively is the one you're riding for. You have not tried the sweet pickles? There's a kosher one. I'm all right. Sweet pickles in general are all right with me.

He's got a honey mustard one that is mind-blowing. Then there's a blazing sour. He's got like 12 flavors that literally I didn't even know that there were combinations of pickles like this. Yeah. So it kind of opened my eye to the pickle world. I was like, I've been missing out on this for all these years. This is crazy. And you don't have to thin slice the pickles.

You're just doing. A thick stock. Just a thick stock of pickles. I feel like you're putting slices. Just a full ass pickle. Well, there's spheres or what I do sometimes is I cut the holes In halves and put it like that On you know what I mean Cut it right down the middle

Put one whole pickle in halves And then that's plenty of pickle To peanut butter ratio So pickle discs as opposed to pickle spears Right No he's saying he's going down I go long ways So it's two strips.

Yeah, yeah. It's two strips. Wow. Okay. Yep. Spreading it open. Damn, son. Yeah, dog.

There it is. We're talking pickles, dog. Kalen and Kalen, pickles, dog. You know, spread it open. Right? Wow. Yeah, I mean, I haven't had it. It doesn't sound good to me, but peanut butter is a versatile food.

The more things I try with peanut butter, it's almost always good. Have you ever had peanut butter on a burger before? No, I have not. It's really, really good. I used to get this peanut butter and jelly burger at this comedy club in huntington beach that they no longer have it on the menu but uh it was so good and it's just like kind of random where you're like that shouldn't taste good but it was amazing yeah no longer have it on the menu because you are the only person who has ever ordered it and it might be it might be i

know i saw a write-up i think in the takeout a couple weeks ago, they were talking about, like, we need to talk about peanut butter on a burger. It's really good. Just saying, like, it's subtle and it works because it's, like, savory and it's, like, creamy. It's not really doing much to be like, what the fuck is this? I mean, yeah, you don't put, like, you don't put the mayonnaise and stuff

on top of, you know what I mean? You trade them out. You're not putting all of it on there. So it's trading out one condiment for another. you don't put the mayonnaise and stuff on top of, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You trade them out. You're not putting all of it on there. So it's trading out one condiment for another. Right. Peanut butter as savory condiment. Yeah, that's interesting.

Something I will have to explore at a future date when I am braver and have a stronger stomach, I think. Yeah. Do you fuck with like peanut butter and sardines and like stuff like that? What? I know that's a thing. That's a thing? Some people have mentioned that to me. I've done like peanut butter and sardines and stuff like that? What? I know that's a thing. That's a thing?

Some people have mentioned that to me. I've done peanut butter and honey and peanut butter and banana. Those are pretty stock. Oh, yeah. Those are great. Things to do. I like all that stuff. And even peanut butter with that marshmallow spread.

Oh, yeah. Fluffernutter. Oh, yeah. Fluffernutter. Yeah. That's good stuff. I had that once when there was this kid I knew was from New England. And I had it at his house. had that once when I, like, there was this, like, kid I knew was from New England. And, like, I had it at his house.

And that's when I was like, what the fuck is this? And I had no idea they even made it. He's like, it's Fluffernutter. You never had it. I'm like, whoa, New England. I love it. Oh, you said New England? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're from New England, innit? We're from New England. We're that new new you never had of us. Yeah. Oh, love you, babes, down in Milton, Mass. See you later. I'll see you down by the dock. Yeah, New England.

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you get your podcasts and we're back and uh we talked at the end of last week that like, you know, there is a genre of article that's like, wow, come on, man, why can't Biden catch a break? That is just everywhere in the news. And the one Biden problem that mainstream news outlets seem to agree on is that inflation is bad and it was caused by giving people money during the pandemic. That seems to be what everybody's just settled with. The decision to send money to Americans during a global pandemic, and now we're all paying the price. Except that's not... Most of the people who are sending that messaging out are corporations and like libertarian publications and then when you look at the actual like events that are happening the things that are being done by the people who have the power in our country which is the corporations like i do feel like

oil executives have as much if not more power than the president, as this story evidences. They are, what they've done is they've raised the prices because they like money. Seems to be like that. That seems to be the cause of at least inflation on gas prices. And, you know, we've all just bought the story that now, well, it's the war and we have too much money. We're sorry, sir. We have too much money from these stimulus payments. And so this article caught my eye in the context of that.

They say gas prices, this is in Yahoo, which is my only source of news. I just go to Yahoo and I'm like, they got me covered. They said gas prices have skyrocketed to record highs, forcing some families to choose between filling their tank, putting food on the table. But for the oil execs whose stock holdings have soared, these are happy days. Some of them are cashing in their shares at unusually high rates. Among four senior executives at PBF Energy, They have sold $9 million worth of stock. We've also got Chevron, the EVP. James Johnson has sold more than $56 million in stock so far this year, which the like, so what are they just like backing out because, you know, everything's so bad?

Actually, no, things are really good. Chevron's net income more than quadrupled compared to the same period the prior year that is not something that happens in like for for companies just in general quadrupling your net income and this is when like prices have risen and everybody is blaming like greedy government or circumstances or us being sent those checks for two thousand dollars like that that is essentially what i feel like the public consciousness has settled on like when you google what's the real cause of inflation you just get an endless list of like people being like government greed caused inflation for the record. And, you know, articles from Reason magazine with Joe Biden, like looking very stupid, like just the worst picture they could find on Getty. Politicians cause real pain with inflationary

policies. And it's like, well, corporations have just realized they can raise prices without, like, that is the one policy that I think is causing this is that there is no pushback. There's no regulation on massive corporations. They have all the say. and what they say is like like you guys i know you guys like money i know it's useful to to you guys but like we oh man we're we really like money and so we're going to take yours is essentially what is happening yeah the i think the American idealism of self-sufficiency has started to impact us in such a negative way that we actually have to confront it at this point. In the same way that we saw with the formula shortage, just breastfeed your baby then. Okay, let me tell you how things work on this side of reality. okay, let me tell you how things work on this side of reality. Like, not every mom can breastfeed.

Not every baby has a mother in their life currently. Some people are being raised by two fathers. Like, there are a bajillion reasons why people cannot breastfeed. And like, babies need food. And they're like, oh, well, you should have thought of that ahead of time as if this is somehow some moral failing. In the same way that, you know, if an unprecedented pandemic hits and our government decides to try to help sustain its population through it, suddenly that's become a negative. And they gave us so little money, so little. And that very little bit made a huge difference

in a lot of people's lives, right? Like that, for some people, that was a ton of money that they were able to make important shifts and decisions about their lives. And so the idea that somehow helping a corporation could ever be better or a better use of finances than giving directly to the people, I just can't wrap my head around it. Like, I think about this a lot, like I said in my idle time of like, why don't we want to help the individual people that make up our entire society as opposed to corporations that show no need, you know, as you know, we're going to talk about Netflix later, but you know, Netflix just fired all of the people it brought in. They were like, sorry, it got a little scary. So we have to let all these people that we forced to move across the country,

you know, to help build our brands and speak to the people we're hoping to engage with our content. We have to fire you now. And hopefully you'll enjoy the like very basic mundane stuff that we make from now on because we're going to stick with what's safe. I don't understand. I can't, I can't wrap my mind around it. Yeah. The broader industry uptick is fueled in part by surging demand, which I don't know how, like, surging from what? Like, we're driving it all. It's pretty. Yeah.

I feel like demand's been pretty steady. Like the fact that the pandemic is slowing down. So it's surging back to the previous levels. So it's surging back to the previous levels. Inflation, which, as we just mentioned, is them raising prices so that they have record profits at the level of quadrupling year over year. And the war in Ukraine. Those are the things that are good for their business. know if i didn't know any better i'd say we're not all in this together as the bp commercial said during the pandemic the i'd say the executives benefit when they make us pay more and they benefit when there is a war on and that's probably not great because they're the most powerful people in the country up to and possibly including the president like that's that's why biden sounds like why we're in a new era where the president comes on and is like man like i don't know would you do something and it's

like i thought you were the president but it's like yeah the president doesn't really have the ability to do anything anymore because corporations make like you can't upset the corporations i love we're all in this together together as a commercial during the pandemic when no one was driving. Then it's like, please, please, I need some help. We miss you. Yeah, it's an abusive relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, I need you. I love you. We want you. You're our heroes. And then, yeah. But like, even there's a New York Times. So I was doing this kind of as an experiment, the search for the real causes of inflation on Google. Ten articles down,

there is a New York Times opinion piece from a Democratic leader that calls for the government to like, you know, preemptively buy goods, distribute them on a need basis to deal with inflation. But he has to like specifically say his plan avoids violating market dynamics. He doesn't once mention the idea that executives using the narrative of inflation to raise prices and make more money just arbitrarily than ever before, that those are causes. You just aren't allowed to say that. And yeah mean joel you you said you've been thinking about this a lot i feel like everybody's been thinking about this a lot and it kind of makes you feel crazy when you see like very clearly what's going on and like nobody is allowed to say it's i think

that's why you're seeing a surge in unions like Like there's, I really feel like there is a strong workers movement launching that is saying, you know, if our government can't protect us and if these mega corporations we work for have no interest in protecting us physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, then we're going to have to set up parameters so that these things can happen ourselves. And it's been interesting to see the amount of money corporations are willing to not give what would probably be considerably a lot less money just to meet demands over the long, like, I can't remember the dollar amount Amazon spent trying to crush their union force, but I was like, you could have just given that to the workers and they probably would have been thrilled. They probably would have been like, that's amazing. Thank you. We'll leave you alone now. So I don't know. I'm excited as we see more and more corporations start to have to answer to their employees. Maybe there's some hope in that direction, but I do think we also need to see that kind of reform, deep reform within our government,

because this system is not working and like, not to get too heavy into everything but like what these judges are trying to pull right now these supreme court judges is oh it's so scary it's really frightening yeah and and like the you know in the in the midterm primaries we're also seeing that like the very mainstream like when it's sort of a choice between kind of equally funded candidates and there is the mainstream democratic option like connor lamb and then like a somebody who just like has some of the same opinions as bernie sanders like john fetterman like the people want the they they they they see what's going on like people see it and like just because you weren't like the mainstream democratic party is not saying it it doesn't mean like they're they're going to go elsewhere it's just a matter of whether they're going to go with the

fascists or whether like we're going to have a option that is a less corporate and market-controlled Democratic option. I'm not hopeful now. It's going to have to get a lot worse for the Democratic Party before it gets better. And for us as a people, we live for comfort. I certainly do. And there's a lot of comfort being brought by a lot of evil corporations making life day-to-day easier right until we can dive like what's the word i'm for divest the invest yeah i think there you go okay perfect that's how i've always used that

word doesn't mean it's correct dictionary folks will correct me and i appreciate it in advance but until we can divest from systems like that i think that we're going to continue to be stuck in sort of this push and pull situation and it's hard to divest so actually the correct word is 43 letters long i feel like we're all little mini bidens in in here because it's like yeah like we're all little mini Bidens in here because it's like, yeah, like we're between a rock and a hard place. We you know, you have to we're in a capitalist system and we're making it work by saying like, oh, Amazon sucks. And then like, I'm going to buy my little Snuggie on Amazon. And and I feel like I mean, we're just in we're like stalled. Right. Because we can't change our lives that quickly because we don't know how.

And it's confusing. And so is he, you know, like he can't he can't he can't be like, I'm not a capitalist anymore. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you can't just do that one day. He just got to gay and women's rights. Like, yeah, it's he's like, slow down. It's happening very fast. Yeah, I would say that as a as a a people at least from my point of view in la like it seems we're in a transitional period you know we're seeing a lot of what we saw and i would say the early 70s and mid 80s where you're seeing like a lot of white flight from cities you're seeing but also at the same time like a lot of gentrifications of old places and a lot of places that haven't gotten the same kind of attention to detail are starting to fall further off. I think we're seeing a rising in workers' rights, but we're also seeing a shift in, like, how do we get more into, like, mutual aids and mutual funds and supporting our communities?

And so I feel like I say every time I'm on here, but, like, investing in mutual aids and into your community and figuring out how you can get involved on that level, I think it's a small amount of change. Because we're all just people with very busy lives and children and stuff, and we all don't have time to be heroes or don't want to be. And I don't think everyone should have to be called upon to be like the biggest and best person they can be every single day. That's exhausting. But I do think that a lot of folks are trying to make small incremental changes to make a larger change.

And I have hope in that, even though it's incredibly slow. I have hope that if we can do that, then maybe things will get a little better. Yeah. Capitalism never sleeps. It is really. What a beast. What a monster. Monster. Yeah. I do have some hope that once people recognize that there needs to be some other way that we're not all just going to tuck into a nice two decades of fascism like we did in the 80s. But we'll see.

Depends on how good the Top Gun movies are. Oh, God. Did you see it, by the way, Joelle? Of course I did. And it's fun, right? Oh, God, it's so much fun. It's terrible how much fun it is for like six different reasons. I was like, I really wanted to be able to walk out and be like, no, awful.

But you really feel like you're flying in a jet, man. And we saw it on IMAX with the surround sound. my seat was rumbling and i was like yes and then they make the very smart move of not making the villain anyone they're like nondescript location everyone in mass there's some ocean and some mountains where could we be we don't know but they're evil and we gotta win and i was like yeah i see it and i'm enjoying it and i can really get out of the headspace of like, who are they telling us is evil? Because technically no one, maybe everyone. It's so much fun. It is a really well-constructed movie

that I just hope people remember is not an accurate depiction of war or what that system of military is like. Talk to some real Navy people. Don't let it recruit you guys. It's just a movie is what I to some real navy people don't let it recruit you guys it's just a movie is what i say to the young people or what women in their 50s should look like okay she's so pretty though i know really she really kept it together oh yeah it is a good movie though

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Mr. Nice guy. Here we go. We got you right where we want you. Like, so is that what this is? Are we going to like now hear from them at this primetime event or what are they up to? So, you know, I don't know who's going to I haven't seen fully who is going to speak and whose testimony that they're going to air. I haven't seen fully who is going to speak and whose testimony that they're going to air. But they should issue one of those things like the Coachella set list where it has all the names.

The big ones up top and then it gets lower and lower. Right. Like, oh, Trump's headlining. And then it's like Kanye. But he wanted them to apologize to Travis Scott or he wouldn't perform. Ronald Reagan's hologram comes in yeah exactly uh so peter navarro right who he was you know a trump economic advisor slash lackey and like friend of the coup who has played his cards like like all the other republicans who have been subpoenaed which is like just deny everything keep your head low and just

like you know fucking ignore it. And like you're saying, we're all looking at this like, what is the fucking point of subpoena power if they just like look at it, fart on it and then carry on with their day? And it's just like, I thought this was as serious as you're telling us it is. So things have taken a turn. Now, I don't know what it all means, but the appearance is certainly different because Peter Navarro actually was indicted and arrested by the FBI and put in a fucking cell over the weekend as he tried to fly from D.C. to Tennessee because he was, again, ignoring a subpoena. recall this guy had the most intense like i'm a white guy i can get away with anything energy that we've seen in a while like he talked about his plan to rat fuck the election in his book there's like a whole section called like the green bay sweep that he's talking about and then the green

bay sweep yes yes he's he's that confident about talking about like how he could get sham electors in Wisconsin, et cetera, to try and swing the swing the votes. Wow. That's in his book that he was selling. Then he would also go on MSNBC and just like literally describe the coup. I'm pretty sure we covered this when he first said it because it was so unbelievable. He was talking to Ari Melber, basically said like, yeah, and then we get that we use the power of like the votes that we have in Congress to overturn the ruling and then we can declare Trump the president. I'm just going to play you this part where Ari Melber is like, hold on, what? And just you can see Peter Navarro being like, what? Like right after he describes him saying you're talking about a coup, sir. Let's go this back and forth, sir. Then you will use the incumbent losing party's power. That was the Republican Party that was losing power to overtake and reverse that outcome. Do you realize you are describing a coup? No, I totally reject many of your premises there. First of all, the election was still in doubt and would be until it was certified. Second, the idea that secretaries of state, particularly in Michigan and Pennsylvania, were like innocent parties. I mean, Jocelyn Benson. just goes on and you can tell from his body language he's like selling you bullshit oh yeah

he's also standing which is like unnerving for some reason I don't think I've ever seen that before he always stands it's upsetting as someone standing right now it is a bummer to look at using his whole body that was his energy when he was like this is the plan to overthrow

the government so then I just want to check on his energy. Let me see what it was like after the feds pulled up and locked you up. How are you talking now? Are you still big time? Instead of coming to my door where I live, which, by the way, is right next to the FBI, instead of calling me and say, hey, we need you down at court, we've got a warrant for you, I would have gladly come.

What did they do? They intercepted me getting on the plane. And then they put me in handcuffs. They bring me here. They put me in leg irons. They stick me in a cell. By the way, just historical note, I was in John Hinckley's cell. They seemed to think that that was like an important historical note i was in john hinkley's cell they seemed to think

that that was like an important historical note okay that's punitive that what they did to me today violated the constitution my man what the fuck did you want they'd be like hey uh it's the fbi like oh my god you want to come how can we invite you over for jail real quick also isn't that what the subpoena is that he was ignoring isn't that the one where i think you're inviting them down well that's just that's my right to refuse it no it's well no this is the whole point you're moving into the you were in the fuck around stage and now you're in the find out stage and you're doing this thing like i can't believe what they're doing you know he you could tell how you can tell his hair is like not done he's frazzled and you this clearly has sent a lot of shock waves

through like the the gop because a lot of people were like i thought we could do that but you don't know yeah it was truly on some i'm sorry sir i didn't know i couldn't do that um and trump for example after this happened he came out with a a fucking quote uh just like a quotable for people to to know where he was uh where he stood on all of it he goes on to say, our great trade genius, Professor Peter Navarro, Professor, shut up, fool, was just handcuffed, shackled, and put in jail while the lowlifes of Antifa and BLM are allowed to rip off the public,

roam free on the streets, kill people, and destroy our once great cities, all run by Democrats, in a parenthetical. Okay. Not only that, you had fucking Louie Gohmert the the the least smart person in dc until maybe hersel walker tools in the drawer yeah louis gomert is just out here saying the

best shit this is this is louis gomert again another person who's got a little mixed up in a little coup behavior. This is him talking about, oh, this is unbelievable what's happening. Peter Navarro got arrested for defying a subpoena. This is what he has to say. It actually puts an exclamation point on the fact that we have a two tiered justice system. we have a two-tiered justice system. If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you. They're going to bury you.

They're going to put you in the D.C. jail and terrorize and torture you and not live up to the Constitution there. However, this comes on the heels of suceman being acquitted okay anyway go on to say you can't even lie to congress or lie to an fbi agent are they're coming after you that's a john hinkley's ghost tickled that poor man in that cell with his irons what is going on that's amazing you can't even lie anymore there's a two tier justice system true yeah no shit and his his example is when you're a gop i mean that is a great illustration that a republican politician believes that it's unjust that they can't even

lie to congress there's a great illustration of just how two-tiered the justice system is that they hadn't don't even like have a concept of what a justice system does to wow that's yeah i guess there is i mean more than two tiers but i mean not what you thought man yeah it's probably it probably tense at the gomert dinner table when he's he's out here saying things like, You can't even lie to the FBI anymore without shit happening to you. I can't even cheat on my goddamn wife anymore without that sack of bricks opening its mouth. Although actually, Louie Gohmert has never cheated on his wife or gotten a speeding ticket or smoked a cigarette or smoked a cigarette

in his life according to the fucking oh wait no that was mo brooks that's all right brooks man proudly cheats on his wife yeah louis gomer the congressman side piece as he's known all right we should talk about the queen's platinum jubes. Finally. Because it happened over the weekend. 70 years of excellence by Her Majesty. Just, you know, going out there, doing Queen stuff. Queen shit. Yeah, thank you. Queen shit.

Queen shit. Yeah. So last week she canceled one of the appearances of the service due to some discomfort presumably a side effect of being roughly a thousand years old and so for that part of the jubilee they replaced her with a digital image inside of an antique golden carriage it's not the the highest of quality digital images it does look like a tiny they've just stuck a tiny tv in there i don't know if like seeing it live made it look more three-dimensional, but people, I mean, this created a whole bunch of maybe our dumbest conspiracy theories of the weekend. We haven't done the official count, but possibly the dumbest

ones from the past five days, because people were like, they were trying to fool us. What more do you need to see to understand that she's dead, first of all, that they're trying to control us with holograms, that they're trying to get us ready for a future where we are not allowed to die and instead our consciousness is uploaded into a universe where we are hologram

work slaves like do i mean do i even need to like spell this out for you like how you lost me with the first bit but you got me with the second one you hung around and he yeah you're glad you did never ending uh mental labers for the digital economy okay wait so they're trying to but did they did the did the palace say like yo you know we're just going to be projecting she's not in there but we want it was a projection from her coronation in 1953 right it's clear that's not if it was if it was intended as a deception, like being 70 years off seems like a pretty major fuck up. But that's how like the conspiracy brain people think.

They go, oh my God, they think they could get that one past me? Yeah. That's her as a fucking kid. She's dead. That's what's happened. All right. The hologram was so bad.

It looked like one of those old baseball cards you would get when if you like turned it slightly it was like has the bat swung it has the bat swung it has the bat it was like one of those things easy yeah that like where it was also like that like prismic like it was cut like those like lines yeah exactly i remember i would always scratch him as a kid i was about to say the same thing but i didn't want to come off as weird no i was doing the same thing, and I was going to say that looking at that carriage window, I'm like, it's one of those scratchy hologram cards.

I would have been scratching on the window, like, let me feel these ridges in here. Yeah, I remember if you said, annoy the fuck out of my parents. Do you guys remember the one where Jordan was Sportsman of the Year and they did a hologram of just him on the cover of Sports Illustrated?

Uh-uh. Oh, man. That was my first real encounter with hologram technology. With that technology. And that's when I knew the New World Order was coming for me. Okay.

Good to know. Sorry, but we were saying about the Queen, the real New World Order. Sorry. So, but first of all, these aren't holograms. These are fucking videos yeah it's just a stage illusion called uh what is it like pepper's ghosts or something yeah named for john pepper a british uh peppa peppa pig is how some people pronounce it but salt and pepper's ghosts

it's the same thing they use for tupac. It's like a stage thing that just is. I don't know exactly how they do it, but it's been around since the 16th century. Oh, what? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, shit. So about as old as that gold cart she rode in on.

Right. That thing is so. I'm sorry. I've never seen something more opulent and why would i because it's like the carriage that would you know carry the monarch of the united kingdom right the british empire in it but that much gold family what the fuck it gotta be all gold like whenever you see them at like any kind of official thing and they sit in their chairs and shit and they're like that's all gold i'm like right dollars dollars? Real, real. But we need something

the size of an SUV that's also all gold, pulled by horses that are also all gold. It resembles one of those old trees that, you know, like they're 700 years old, and their roots are like above ground and like, you know, kind of snaking through, but dipped in gold.

Right. Yeah. it's also just i mean this is maybe the most predictable thing about humanity is that we don't deal well with death that we like just cannot because you know the thing that is hard to wrap your mind around the human brain is not capable really western culture yeah western culture for sure and so i mean you know the beatles like everybody was they picked the one guy who was going to survive into his 90s and they were like that that dude's actually dead sorry right he died when he was 26 in a car accident they've been trying to fool you like elvis was dead they couldn't believe he was dead tupac, same thing.

We just can't deal with it. It's going to keep happening. I think there's some stuff in the Bible about someone who was supposedly dead. But that sneaky guy managed to pull up in a cave a couple of days later, huh? I think Lazarus was faking it, though. Oh, for sure. He wasn't dead. He was sleeping.

Have you met Lazarus? Yeah, Lazarus is always like, I'm dead. It's like, no, you're not, Lazarus. You went to somebody to resurrect you, and then all you can talk about is how Jesus resurrected you. Had a nut of Laz. When you were playing dead as a kid, did you ever go undead? Like, that was how you signaled to your friends that you were dead? When you were playing dead? Well, how are we playing dead as a kid did you ever go undead like that was how you signaled to your friends that you were dead when you were playing well how are we playing dead or is this like in a like a cops and robbers kind of thing like shooting finger guns at each other you're like i'm dead i'm

dead yeah yeah yeah i mean that was like an official shorthand with me and my friends and my little sister or like if it was tag two or something like no i'm dead i'm dead i'm dead stop fucking with me like i'm not a participant i'm dead in the game yeah yeah i'd start digging my own grave which bummed everybody in the middle of the game yeah guys i'm dead in 10 minutes actually can you get a garden hose i feel like we could loosen this soil up it's real dry i think it'd be easier to dig if i just kind of got a little bit wetter yeah you might as well bury me because I'm dead. Actually, are you certified to use that backhoe I saw in your yard or is that just your

dad can use that? Because we could do two scoops and I'm out. It's not funny playing this game with you anymore. We're not enjoying this. We need heavy machinery operators amongst children. They're like, I'm certified. I can use it. I don't know if your dad's cool with it. I can show him my paperwork, but

I get it. You don't need to upside accidents. Have you guys ever been convinced by that? Felt the temptation to be like, I think that person faked their own death. I feel like I was kind of

like the Tupac thing kind of got me there for a little while. Yeah, I was 13. And also that beginning part in the Machiavellian which is of like the Tupac thing kind of got me there for a little while. I was 13. Yeah. And also that beginning part in the Machiavelli album, which is Strixxar Tupac. And you're like, wait, what the fuck? What the? You remember that? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That was like that was like, oh, gee, like L.A. conspiracy theory shit. Like, man, if you listen to the Machiavelli album, it's fucking right. With messages and shit. Yeah. listen to the mac your macaveli album it's like fucking right with messages and shit yeah to your point it is always this is the first one where it was an old person where it's always someone who died prematurely or died young you know we're here if she could just be like that's she's old you know it's a very strange thing to pick up on. But here, I think any famous person, that's what your thought is.

Because like you said, it's hard to accept death and wrap your mind around it. So why not have an easy explanation that makes everybody happier? I think everyone faked their own death. I think everyone's still alive. Everyone in the whole world. Yeah.

Just hold your breath while you're going by cemeteries and the truth will appear to you. Your whole life is just passing out waking up holding your breath next to a cemetery waking up yeah i gotta get past the cemetery from that time all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks i hope you're having a great weekend and i will talk to you monday bye Thank you. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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